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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Tomorrows front page is showing that the yes vote is leading 51% to the 49% no vote!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

yawn

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"yawn "

You no stood on that plug yet?

You can go off people you know

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Wish it would just hurry up so we can get on with things whatever way it goes

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Yes or no, the financial wrecking ball will hit the public finances. Both sides have been too scared to give any bad budget news for the past 3 years.

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By *ackiekenny twoMan
over a year ago

Glasgow

Where does these polls come from then as i dont know anyone thats been asked

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I've been asked, telephone poll

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

I don't know man. I just seen the paper! Google it

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By *ackiekenny twoMan
over a year ago

Glasgow

Never gave that a thought lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It's in the Sunday times, done by YouGov. Polls are shite though. Only one that matters and that's on the 18th.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

No !!!!!!

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"No !!!!!!"

Fuck off

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By *leasure domMan
over a year ago

Edinburgh

The polls for the last Holyrood election were spectacularly wrong.

I am expecting the vote to be 60/40 in favour of YES.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It's only an opinion poll!

No will still win x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If it's in the paper it must be true

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By *ikerbob1957Man
over a year ago

Glasgow

Scary if true

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Tomorrows front page is showing that the yes vote is leading 51% to the 49% no vote!!

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Awsome, the 5million people from 63million people are voting yes more than the no people, whats that? ohh eh, 2.6million versus 2.4million, in a country thats used to being financed by 65million people,,,superb, we will feel rich for a year tops !!

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Tomorrows front page is showing that the yes vote is leading 51% to the 49% no vote!!

Awsome, the 5million people from 63million people are voting yes more than the no people, whats that? ohh eh, 2.6million versus 2.4million, in a country thats used to being financed by 65million people,,,superb, we will feel rich for a year tops !!

You're starting to get right on my tits!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"yawn

You no stood on that plug yet?

You can go off people you know

you have never been on me

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Tomorrows front page is showing that the yes vote is leading 51% to the 49% no vote!!

You're starting to get right on my tits! "
Sorry, not my intention, you dont like facts abd stats then, im guessing?

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Tomorrows front page is showing that the yes vote is leading 51% to the 49% no vote!!

You're starting to get right on my tits! Sorry, not my intention, you dont like facts abd stats then, im guessing?"

I was simply making a joke about it. Letting people know what the poll stood at! I don't give a fuck about politics! I'm one of the "fuck it, it'll be a laugh"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Tomorrows front page is showing that the yes vote is leading 51% to the 49% no vote!!

You're starting to get right on my tits! Sorry, not my intention, you dont like facts abd stats then, im guessing?"
Sorry to step in here but are you seriously passing your opinion off as facts? Incredible if you are

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By *ikerbob1957Man
over a year ago

Glasgow

"Tomorrows front page is showing that the yes vote is leading 51% to the 49% no vote!!

You're starting to get right on my tits! "

I'm sure they are very nice tits and I would love to get on them.

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By *aucy MikeCouple
over a year ago

Edinburgh

"Tomorrows front page is showing that the yes vote is leading 51% to the 49% no vote!!

You're starting to get right on my tits! Sorry, not my intention, you dont like facts abd stats then, im guessing?Sorry to step in here but are you seriously passing your opinion off as facts? Incredible if you are

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Tomorrows front page is showing that the yes vote is leading 51% to the 49% no vote!!

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Cool, hit me with facts? Yes voting facts? Even better,, marvelous.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Tomorrows front page is showing that the yes vote is leading 51% to the 49% no vote!!

Cool, hit me with facts? Yes voting facts? Even better,, marvelous."
Nae point trying to pick an argument with me, you made a tit of yourself. We all do it sometimes, it's no biggy

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Tomorrows front page is showing that the yes vote is leading 51% to the 49% no vote!!

Cool, hit me with facts? Yes voting facts? Even better,, marvelous.Nae point trying to pick an argument with me, you made a tit of yourself. We all do it sometimes, it's no biggy

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Its a biggy, apparently, its "our future and if we dont vote yes we are all suddenly non-scots", when in actual fact n voting scots care as much as yes voting scots, butt me, im a tit for havin aa diffrent opinion, which contradicts this,,, freedom ideal, because suddenly there will be no freedom unless we vote YES,,awwsome !!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Your choice of vote has no bearing on you making a tit of yourself. You attempted to chastise BJQ for saying something about your opinion which you then tried to pass off as facts and stats. I only corrected you. If you can't see this then I'm afraid I'm gonna have to bow out of this conversation as I don't have the tolerance at this time of night.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

yawn anyone any cake

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By *ikerbob1957Man
over a year ago

Glasgow

I have lived through many general elections but this referendum has stirred an intolerance that I have never witnessed before.

I just hope that everyone accepts the result on the 18th as we all have to live together.

Name calling has no place in this debate nor does intimidation.

We are all entitled to our own opinion and we each have a reason for voting the way we do.

I was born Scottish and will die Scottish, my vote will neither enhance or diminish that fact.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Too heavy for this time of night

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By *abled_raptureCouple
over a year ago

Edinburgh

"Wish it would just hurry up so we can get on with things whatever way it goes "

a million times this, getting really tiring. Plus it's doing bad things for my relationship

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By *r and Mrs SnogalotCouple
over a year ago

Glasgow

"I have lived through many general elections but this referendum has stirred an intolerance that I have never witnessed before.

I just hope that everyone accepts the result on the 18th as we all have to live together.

Name calling has no place in this debate nor does intimidation.

We are all entitled to our own opinion and we each have a reason for voting the way we do.

I was born Scottish and will die Scottish, my vote will neither enhance or diminish that fact."

Well said - I have never in mine life witnessed such crappy behaviour.

I don't know if Aston's comments are factual, i haven't checked them but Yes voters are accepting the bull coming out of the Yes camp and No voters the same from the No camp.

I am very firmly in the No camp - am scottish and proud and equally proud of being british. More importantly there is not one person convinced me that independence will be the best thing for Scotland. Heard a lot of fairy stories but not facts on how this will effect our future.

Shy

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By *ustcutieWoman
over a year ago

edinburgh

"I have lived through many general elections but this referendum has stirred an intolerance that I have never witnessed before.

I just hope that everyone accepts the result on the 18th as we all have to live together.

Name calling has no place in this debate nor does intimidation.

We are all entitled to our own opinion and we each have a reason for voting the way we do.

I was born Scottish and will die Scottish, my vote will neither enhance or diminish that fact.

Well said - I have never in mine life witnessed such crappy behaviour.

I don't know if Aston's comments are factual, i haven't checked them but Yes voters are accepting the bull coming out of the Yes camp and No voters the same from the No camp.

Shy

Agree with both

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I've been saying it for WEEKS! 58% yes vote. You heard it here first.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I have lived through many general elections but this referendum has stirred an intolerance that I have never witnessed before.

I just hope that everyone accepts the result on the 18th as we all have to live together.

Name calling has no place in this debate nor does intimidation.

We are all entitled to our own opinion and we each have a reason for voting the way we do.

I was born Scottish and will die Scottish, my vote will neither enhance or diminish that fact.

Well said - I have never in mine life witnessed such crappy behaviour.

I don't know if Aston's comments are factual, i haven't checked them but Yes voters are accepting the bull coming out of the Yes camp and No voters the same from the No camp.

Shy

I'm with you 100% on this Shy, well said

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By *r and Mrs SnogalotCouple
over a year ago

Glasgow

"I have lived through many general elections but this referendum has stirred an intolerance that I have never witnessed before.

I just hope that everyone accepts the result on the 18th as we all have to live together.

Name calling has no place in this debate nor does intimidation.

We are all entitled to our own opinion and we each have a reason for voting the way we do.

I was born Scottish and will die Scottish, my vote will neither enhance or diminish that fact.

Well said - I have never in mine life witnessed such crappy behaviour.

I don't know if Aston's comments are factual, i haven't checked them but Yes voters are accepting the bull coming out of the Yes camp and No voters the same from the No camp.

Shy

I'm with you 100% on this Shy, well said

Thanks Mac. It really worries me that decisions will be made in the next few weeks that are wrong for our future.

Shy

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By *ikerbob1957Man
over a year ago

Glasgow

I agree.

Norway is held up as a shining example but a pint averages £6 a pint

Unlike the yes camp I research my answers.

http://www.pintprice.com/city.php?/Oslo/Norway/eur.htm

VAT is 25% in Norway and 26% in Iceland, another country held up as an example of independance working.

The top 10 most expensive places to buy a pint are all small independant countries.

Hardly a reason for voting No but I'm sure if they are expensive for a pint then everything else will expensive as I know that Norway certainly is as is Eire.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I agree.

Norway is held up as a shining example but a pint averages £6 a pint

Unlike the yes camp I research my answers.

http://www.pintprice.com/city.php?/Oslo/Norway/eur.htm

VAT is 25% in Norway and 26% in Iceland, another country held up as an example of independance working.

The top 10 most expensive places to buy a pint are all small independant countries.

Hardly a reason for voting No but I'm sure if they are expensive for a pint then everything else will expensive as I know that Norway certainly is as is Eire."

well bob i was in a pub tonight charging over £4 for piss water, so we are almost there already

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By *ikerbob1957Man
over a year ago

Glasgow

The £6 a pint was scary enough but that was averaged over the whole country. In the capital it was £8 a pint.

My Norwegian isn't great but it seems that a Ford Focus is about £4,000 dearer as well.

I don't go to posh places (don't like people in leathers, lol) so never been charged £4 for a beer. Been charged £2.80 for a soft drink though when a pint was £2.50.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Bob its easy to selective in the number you throw out, the reality is these are all relative, on average prices in Scotland are around 1/3 lower than Norway, but the average wage in Scotland is also around 1/3 lower than Norway, so your point is moot big chap.

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By *ikerbob1957Man
over a year ago

Glasgow

so if our wages are 33% bigger then our costs of producing things also goes up making us uncomptitive in the rest of the world.

Already people travel from the top of Eire to Northern Ireland to buy fuel and groceries. Is that going to happen in an independant Scotland where i travel to England to buy a new car (I live in hope)or will there need to be import taxes to protect local businesses?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"so if our wages are 33% bigger then our costs of producing things also goes up making us uncomptitive in the rest of the world.

both the income and cost of living are aprox 1/3 lower here than in Norway, your point is moot.

however wealth inequality in the UK is aprox double that of the Scandinavian nations, food for thought.

i know that i would prefer a more equal society rather than concentrate on bottom line figures.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

What worries me is the levels of animosity that has been shown in passing months towards me and some of my other English friends. And regardless of what way the vote goes I can only see it getting worse. When there are threats of violence when you're out trying to enjoy a quiet drink simply because of your accent, it's gone too fucking far.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"The £6 a pint was scary enough but that was averaged over the whole country. In the capital it was £8 a pint.

My Norwegian isn't great but it seems that a Ford Focus is about £4,000 dearer as well.

I don't go to posh places (don't like people in leathers, lol) so never been charged £4 for a beer. Been charged £2.80 for a soft drink though when a pint was £2.50."

That's mainly down to the "luxury tax" that all Scandinavian countries adopt. Denmark, Sweden, Norway, Finland, they're all incredibly expensive for cars, alcohol, anything really that's not classed as a necessity.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"What worries me is the levels of animosity that has been shown in passing months towards me and some of my other English friends. And regardless of what way the vote goes I can only see it getting worse. When there are threats of violence when you're out trying to enjoy a quiet drink simply because of your accent, it's gone too fucking far."

I sympathise with you, but the same happens elsewhere in the UK, i once visited Manchester on a day where Scotland played England at football and was advised that Scottish people should not go out as their personal safety would be at risk.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Tomorrows front page is showing that the yes vote is leading 51% to the 49% no vote!!

Its not this vote that counts only the one on the 18th x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Tomorrows front page is showing that the yes vote is leading 51% to the 49% no vote!!

Its not this vote that counts only the one on the 18th x "

I agree with you on this, however it's illuminating that many no supporters have sneered at this sentiment when the polls had the no campaign ahead by 10%-20%

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By *ootlover456Man
over a year ago

Paisley

yes has been winning for about 3 months. its part of the investigation that's supposed to be conducted into the media bias. every independent poll for over 3 months has showed yes in majority. yet the media kept saying no was winning. the best one was when one of the newspapers own internet poll showed 75% yes yet they reported the same day that no was was winning by well into 80.

if they are finally admitting yes is in the lead. I reakon that means they are actually in the lead by a very large majority

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Just thought I would point out that in Norway VAT is actually used the way it was economically designed. Essential every day items are untaxed.

The economic policy is also akin to Hong Kong where GDP like Norway is higher per capita both policies were set up on the 60's both policies hit each country hard for about a decade then they both prospered. Watch Kevin McClouds "Billion dollar scam" on iplayer and make up your own mind.

Both countries in 1965 GDP was one third of the UK today both countries have higher GDP lower cost of living, prosperous internal growth, less deficit, better public services (age concern, social deprivation, child welfare etc) better public transport, higher exports, higher wages and less income tax.

The info is there, Im not saying an independent Scotland would adopt the same policy but interestingly the Hong Kong policy was written and implemented by a Scot. It will certainly be a tough transition but it will be better than what we got.or what's coming should we stay in the UK.

I could back up everything I've written with facts but because I believe it will be better doesn't mean I need to convince anyone, you're not voting for me you're voting for us (either way)

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By *ikerbob1957Man
over a year ago

Glasgow

One of the planks of the Yes campaign was to retain the pound so no plan B.

Today the Governor of the Bank of England ruled out a curreny union so now what?

Will wee eck finally admit that we cannot use sterling and come up with a viable plan b?

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By *ootlover456Man
over a year ago

Paisley

the bank of England don't own the pound sterling. its a global currency that can be used by any country.

points of fact.

it was invented by a scot. (originaly named the pound scots)

the bank of England was founded by a Scotsman so Scotland in part owns that

the pound is used as a basis for many currancys all over the world. including the Egyptian lyra. as well as simply being used by 6 other countries. all without the permission of the bank of Enlgland.

Alex Salmond gave Three plan Bs at the last debate live. and completely destroyed Alister Darlings entire Argument

money is a concept of control its not based on anything. you could use anything as a currency. you could use rocks if you wanted to so its entirely an unimportant point.

and finally the media LIE about everything. everyone knows it. so why oh why are people believing it

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