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By *akedninja OP   Man
over a year ago

edinburgh

we've all seen an increase in the trend of folk to profess giving up smoking in favour of puffing on their puff the magic crack pipe's thinking that it's completely safe and innocent because it's allegedly not the same as smoking an evil cigarette....i must admit the various aromatic odours are lessing offensive than that of some cheap/fake cancer sticks and it makes a change for walking down the street and feeling like im huddled in a disabled toilet at a smoking cessation meeting with a bunch of other tar lung worshippers

i've even noticed parents allowing buying/allowing their underage teenage kids E-cigs thinking that they're harmless in comparison ...there's no smoke without fire!

are e-cigs safe or worse than smoking regular cigs?

should they be banned?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I saw a guy get thrown out of Morrisons for using one and refusing to stop. It goes to show that the selfishness of smokers still goes on unless they quit-quit.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I understand where the OP is coming from,I have two work mate who used the decreasing strength of nicotine to give up smoking, my sister and her hubby are down to the lowest nicotine level as well.so I would say allow them.

I do understand not everyone is using them to give up but I know some are !!

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By *akedninja OP   Man
over a year ago

edinburgh


"I saw a guy get thrown out of Morrisons for using one and refusing to stop. It goes to show that the selfishness of smokers still goes on unless they quit-quit."
there is no excuse for ignorance.....people are entitled to shorten their lives in any manner they fancy but i dont agree that they should force that onto other's.....i feel like rolling up a dried out dog shit in some rolling papers and light it up and blow the smoke in the direction of folk who stand at bus stops and smoke and folk that blow smoke in your face as you run the gauntlet to and from work lol im not saying that i have anything against smokers....but ignorant smokers aswell as ignorant people in general pee me off lol i've watched alot of my friends die of smoke related cancer and i've had some recent scare's in my family who dont even smoke so i dont fancy going out like that...smoking takes more lives a year than almost any war that i can think of

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By *akedninja OP   Man
over a year ago

edinburgh

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By *akedninja OP   Man
over a year ago

edinburgh

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By *akedninja OP   Man
over a year ago

edinburgh


"I understand where the OP is coming from,I have two work mate who used the decreasing strength of nicotine to give up smoking, my sister and her hubby are down to the lowest nicotine level as well.so I would say allow them.

I do understand not everyone is using them to give up but I know some are !!

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it's good that theyre using them to quit smoking but what of the unkown evils of the e-cigs that are yet to be revealed hmmm might be akin to jumping from the fire into the firepan

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

At my work they have smoking time where smokers can smoke at designated smoking shelters, but they have now made people using electronics fags smoke at these times in the shelters. Some might say fair point but my thoughts ( non smoker by the way ) is that these people are trying to stop smoking and the company has now decided to make them stand with smokers while they try cut down/stop smoking? great idea lol

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By *akedninja OP   Man
over a year ago

edinburgh


"At my work they have smoking time where smokers can smoke at designated smoking shelters, but they have now made people using electronics fags smoke at these times in the shelters. Some might say fair point but my thoughts ( non smoker by the way ) is that these people are trying to stop smoking and the company has now decided to make them stand with smokers while they try cut down/stop smoking? great idea lol"
hmmm bit of a catch 22 situation.....next folk will be bringing in their shisha pipe's and there will be seperate smoking area's for everyone lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


" Some might say fair point but my thoughts ( non smoker by the way ) is that these people are trying to stop smoking and the company has now decided to make them stand with smokers while they try cut down/stop smoking? great idea lol"

There are many using them to continue their nicotine habit, as a substitute cigarette, and to try to get round the ban

In pubs, etc. There is still insufficient information about the contents of the particulate given off by them, but I did notice my asthma was worse when in the presence of people using them. There is a desperate determination on the part of smokers and e-smokers to try to get round the laws in any way they can. I look forward to the day they are confined to their own homes with their foul habit.

There is nothing worse than running the gauntlet of "The Walking Dead" outside hospital entrances, seeing them sucking away, whilst hooked up to oxygen, with missing limbs due to the destroyed circulation from smoking, and the breathless wheeze of their one barely functioning lung. And then there is the stale smell...

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By *oftfocusMan
over a year ago

EDINBURGH

It's not the nicotine that is dangerous, it's all the other stuff in fags.

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By *ola cubesMan
over a year ago

coatbridge

What utter nonsense some folk write and think if it wasnt for petrol heads ............if it wasnt for religion get over yourself you may want to live in a big brother state and be told when and what to do i dont long live the revelution ...............wheres my celabratory ciggie

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By *ola cubesMan
over a year ago

coatbridge

And a thing alot are missing here is not all e cigs generate smoke or use nicotine infact the vast majority are atomisers so in laymens terms its steam your seeing

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By *riendly foeWoman
over a year ago

In a crisp poke on the A814

Shut up you and give me a light!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

its been a month or so that I went onto them...

we cant FUCKING WIN it appears to anti-smokers.

we have something now that doesnt AFFECT other people..which IS the main concern rather it affecting the 'smoker' in question.

now we are some kind of drug addicts ffs..(which most people dont even though the concept of the meaning)..as far as I can see Ecigs will be safer than:-

smoking(real fags)

car fumes

alcohol

(paused for a puff)

ahh thats better..I dont want to kill people now

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

ECigs are completely unregulated. If you can smell the fumes then that means you are breathing in a bi-product which has not been tested. Are they safe? Well you have only got the word of the manufacturers and retailers that their product is safe which is what the tobacco industry maintained until recently and look at how honest they turned out to be.

Funny they have not done any testing to prove the safety of their product

Makes you think.

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By *riendly foeWoman
over a year ago

In a crisp poke on the A814

What would you rather I do if I was ever within 10 meters of you....

Had a smoke and kept calm....?

Drank a few vodkas and beat the shit out of you with a big stick....??

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Maybe get off the drug that causes such a violent reaction

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By *riendly foeWoman
over a year ago

In a crisp poke on the A814


"

Maybe get off the drug that causes such a violent reaction "

I only use the use the vodka as an excuse....

I can still happily beat anyone with a big stick when 100% sober

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I am a non smoker but think people using e-cigs should be given a break.

There is no way e-cigs stink as much and are as harmfull as the real thing.

It is true there is various quality of these things so we don't truly know what is in them. I would still prefer people using them rather than the real thing.

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By *ola cubesMan
over a year ago

coatbridge


"ECigs are completely unregulated. If you can smell the fumes then that means you are breathing in a bi-product which has not been tested. Are they safe? Well you have only got the word of the manufacturers and retailers that their product is safe which is what the tobacco industry maintained until recently and look at how honest they turned out to be.

Funny they have not done any testing to prove the safety of their product

Makes you think."

its nothing more than a small heat pad and charge through filiments whatz to regulate ?? As for the oils if bought from this country they pass british kite standards yup tested in labs to prove not harmful got to laugh at the anti smoking crowd runnnin around bleating and complaining as they run around in their cfc and pollutant producing motors which have a far greater impact on our living envitoment than my ciggies do you moan constantly sbout thiz ...... ...... . Nope because you want your stink the planet up moter to save you the 20min walk to the shops

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By *riendly foeWoman
over a year ago

In a crisp poke on the A814

Cubes....

let them bitch

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By *ola cubesMan
over a year ago

coatbridge


"Cubes....

let them bitch "
cmere we can hang about some feekers door n smoke 20 woodbine

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I agree that cars are worse than some but ecigs are an unregulated market. Yes, SOME products are tested but the vast majority of the cheaper ones are not and so it is not know what is in them.

If you want to stand outside then I have no problem but I do not want to sit in a room whilst hoping the person across the room has the decency to not smoke some cheap unknown product.

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By *ola cubesMan
over a year ago

coatbridge


"I agree that cars are worse than some but ecigs are an unregulated market. Yes, SOME products are tested but the vast majority of the cheaper ones are not and so it is not know what is in them.

If you want to stand outside then I have no problem but I do not want to sit in a room whilst hoping the person across the room has the decency to not smoke some cheap unknown product.

"
again i use an e cig and it aint smoke ergo can be used indoors think of it like an au de toilette bottle thats also an atomiser but you dont gripe at a fem skooshing that around willy nilly why? What goes into making that product is also largely unknown but no moaning or cfc laden bo sprays funny world we live in lol

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By *ime For ItMan
over a year ago

Glasgow

I personally don't want to be told by any Government what to do with a legal product..especially when ( in my generation ) it was advertised everywhere and was seen to be a cool thing to do...not to mention the 85% Tax the Government raked in from it and still does !

I do agree however that it is not a good thing to do around others...so I try to be a considerate smoker.....but...there was not much of an outcry when people were stopped smoking in public places because it is Not Good For You...but how much of an outcry do you think there would be if an obviously Obese person walked into MacDonalds, Dominos, etc and was told....Sorry I can't serve you as it is Not Good For You ???...lol.

I am simply trying to point out...that if the " Its Not Good For You " was applied to many things...then folks would not like being told what to do by a Government on something that is Legal.

Would we end up with Fast Food junkies standing outside Offsales telling 14 year olds...if you go in and get me a double large Mac and double fries...I will go and get you your bottle of Buckfast and a flagon of Cider ?....lol.

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By *akedninja OP   Man
over a year ago

edinburgh


"ECigs are completely unregulated. If you can smell the fumes then that means you are breathing in a bi-product which has not been tested. Are they safe? Well you have only got the word of the manufacturers and retailers that their product is safe which is what the tobacco industry maintained until recently and look at how honest they turned out to be.

Funny they have not done any testing to prove the safety of their product

Makes you think.

its nothing more than a small heat pad and charge through filiments whatz to regulate ?? As for the oils if bought from this country they pass british kite standards yup tested in labs to prove not harmful got to laugh at the anti smoking crowd runnnin around bleating and complaining as they run around in their cfc and pollutant producing motors which have a far greater impact on our living envitoment than my ciggies do you moan constantly sbout thiz ...... ...... . Nope because you want your stink the planet up moter to save you the 20min walk to the shops"
lol i dont own a car so i guess that doesnt apply to me besides as i stated i dont have an issue with anyone who wants to smoke cigs or E-cigs but id just rather they were more considerate about forcing the passive smoke onto other's especially kids....much in the same way i dont have any issues with anyones religious persuasions so long as they dont try to shove their religion down my throat most smokers and religious fanatics i know are pleasant enough folks it's just the odd individual that gives everyone else in that catergory a bad name

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