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"Isn't it just fckn fantastic. UK opens its borders "again" and the politicians say everything will be fine and within 8 hours of arriving here 2 Romanians get arrested in London for pick pocketing, and they wonder why so many people are against too much immigration" It's a complete joke I also read in the papers that they have special offices set up in these countries who help and give advice to people on how to enter the UK and what benefits to claim  | |||
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"Isn't it just fckn fantastic. UK opens its borders "again" and the politicians say everything will be fine and within 8 hours of arriving here 2 Romanians get arrested in London for pick pocketing, and they wonder why so many people are against too much immigration It's a complete joke I also read in the papers that they have special offices set up in these countries who help and give advice to people on how to enter the UK and what benefits to claim "aye and if you r uk born n bred, you have to find out things by accident or have a friend who knows a friend who got something, so you know what to ask about  | |||
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"The UK needs immigration it has done for many years. Dont let the minority of trouble makers spoil it for the many. You get them in all walks of life. Celtic fans in Amsterdam, Rangers fans in Manchester. London riots. The soldier that was beheaded in London. The list is endless. " Oh I agree, but maybe we should be a little more selective? | |||
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"The UK needs immigration it has done for many years. Dont let the minority of trouble makers spoil it for the many. You get them in all walks of life. Celtic fans in Amsterdam, Rangers fans in Manchester. London riots. The soldier that was beheaded in London. The list is endless. Oh I agree, but maybe we should be a little more selective? " It don't work that way. If we want our low level crims to be able to escape to Spain, there has to be some give and take. | |||
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"The UK needs immigration it has done for many years. Dont let the minority of trouble makers spoil it for the many. You get them in all walks of life. Celtic fans in Amsterdam, Rangers fans in Manchester. London riots. The soldier that was beheaded in London. The list is endless. Oh I agree, but maybe we should be a little more selective? " Couldnt agree more....or they cant claim anything till they have put into the system for at least a year | |||
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"The UK needs immigration it has done for many years. Dont let the minority of trouble makers spoil it for the many. You get them in all walks of life. Celtic fans in Amsterdam, Rangers fans in Manchester. London riots. The soldier that was beheaded in London. The list is endless. Oh I agree, but maybe we should be a little more selective? Couldnt agree more....or they cant claim anything till they have put into the system for at least a year" Would that apply to ANY EU citizen travelling to ANY EU country applying for ANY DWP/ NHS/ whatever benefit - or just the people we don't like? | |||
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"The UK needs immigration it has done for many years. Dont let the minority of trouble makers spoil it for the many. You get them in all walks of life. Celtic fans in Amsterdam, Rangers fans in Manchester. London riots. The soldier that was beheaded in London. The list is endless. Oh I agree, but maybe we should be a little more selective? Couldnt agree more....or they cant claim anything till they have put into the system for at least a year Would that apply to ANY EU citizen travelling to ANY EU country applying for ANY DWP/ NHS/ whatever benefit - or just the people we don't like?" Everyone......have worked with alot of foreigners in my line of work and have made good friends with some of them. Not all are bad | |||
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"The UK needs immigration it has done for many years. Dont let the minority of trouble makers spoil it for the many. You get them in all walks of life. Celtic fans in Amsterdam, Rangers fans in Manchester. London riots. The soldier that was beheaded in London. The list is endless. Oh I agree, but maybe we should be a little more selective? Couldnt agree more....or they cant claim anything till they have put into the system for at least a year Would that apply to ANY EU citizen travelling to ANY EU country applying for ANY DWP/ NHS/ whatever benefit - or just the people we don't like?" And there's the problem - the EU. I don't see the Aussies or kiwis constantly getting it in the neck over their immigration policies. Or the Canadians. But I'm afraid we are stuck with EU laws that we must stick to which means any person from an EU member state can go anywhere within the EU. Therefore, we have to take the good with the bad  | |||
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"The UK needs immigration it has done for many years. Dont let the minority of trouble makers spoil it for the many. You get them in all walks of life. Celtic fans in Amsterdam, Rangers fans in Manchester. London riots. The soldier that was beheaded in London. The list is endless. Oh I agree, but maybe we should be a little more selective? Couldnt agree more....or they cant claim anything till they have put into the system for at least a year Would that apply to ANY EU citizen travelling to ANY EU country applying for ANY DWP/ NHS/ whatever benefit - or just the people we don't like? Everyone......have worked with alot of foreigners in my line of work and have made good friends with some of them. Not all are bad " I agree with you. I had loads of polish guys working for me in London as well as some Ghanaians. They were great guys and extremely hard workers. 95% of the work was hard graft and manual labour and there were no British guys willing to do it. The pay was good but it was hard graft and the few British guys that started, usually didn't even make it to the end of the day unfortunately. | |||
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"....... And there's the problem - the EU. I don't see the Aussies or kiwis constantly getting it in the neck over their immigration policies. Or the Canadians. But I'm afraid we are stuck with EU laws that we must stick to which means any person from an EU member state can go anywhere within the EU. Therefore, we have to take the good with the bad "There's a big internal backlash in Australia over the number of Irish immigrants who've arrived in the last few years. | |||
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"....... And there's the problem - the EU. I don't see the Aussies or kiwis constantly getting it in the neck over their immigration policies. Or the Canadians. But I'm afraid we are stuck with EU laws that we must stick to which means any person from an EU member state can go anywhere within the EU. Therefore, we have to take the good with the bad
There's a big internal backlash in Australia over the number of Irish immigrants who've arrived in the last few years."Thing is, their immigration policy is a lot stricter than ours so they must have contributed to their economy in a positive way or else they wouldn't have been allowed in | |||
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"....... And there's the problem - the EU. I don't see the Aussies or kiwis constantly getting it in the neck over their immigration policies. Or the Canadians. But I'm afraid we are stuck with EU laws that we must stick to which means any person from an EU member state can go anywhere within the EU. Therefore, we have to take the good with the bad
There's a big internal backlash in Australia over the number of Irish immigrants who've arrived in the last few years.
Thing is, their immigration policy is a lot stricter than ours so they must have contributed to their economy in a positive way or else they wouldn't have been allowed in ".... or it may just be that they're white. | |||
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"....... And there's the problem - the EU. I don't see the Aussies or kiwis constantly getting it in the neck over their immigration policies. Or the Canadians. But I'm afraid we are stuck with EU laws that we must stick to which means any person from an EU member state can go anywhere within the EU. Therefore, we have to take the good with the bad
There's a big internal backlash in Australia over the number of Irish immigrants who've arrived in the last few years.
Thing is, their immigration policy is a lot stricter than ours so they must have contributed to their economy in a positive way or else they wouldn't have been allowed in "Have to have enough money to support yourself and family to get in Australia for at least a year I think otherwise its a sponser whose willing to support you before you get in | |||
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" .... or it may just be that they're white." How do you mean? | |||
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"....... And there's the problem - the EU. I don't see the Aussies or kiwis constantly getting it in the neck over their immigration policies. Or the Canadians. But I'm afraid we are stuck with EU laws that we must stick to which means any person from an EU member state can go anywhere within the EU. Therefore, we have to take the good with the bad
There's a big internal backlash in Australia over the number of Irish immigrants who've arrived in the last few years.
Thing is, their immigration policy is a lot stricter than ours so they must have contributed to their economy in a positive way or else they wouldn't have been allowed in
Have to have enough money to support yourself and family to get in Australia for at least a year I think otherwise its a sponser whose willing to support you before you get in "And you have to be able to prove you have a job lined up - and that job has to be on the list of jobs they have approved of too. Usually skilled jobs or things like nursing | |||
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"Just before Christmas a 'woman' was begging outside my office in Glasgow. She had a 3 year old kid with her. I offered to call social services to have the kid taken taken in to care and help sought for her situation. Her response was to call me a "fucking racist" and I should "fuck off home" in eastern accented English. Funny, I thought I was in my own country? When I threatened to call the police she ran to a parked car and left asap. Funny thing was the back of the car had an RO sticker on it. " Happens in London every single day | |||
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"When the system was set up it was ... No Pay In = No Pay Out. Sadly our legal system through rich lawyers and rich judges and rich politicians (well they are not actually rich through politics, just from their scams) have ensured it is not open to abuse. Sadly we only get the politicians we deserve as the newspapers think that anyone trying to change things is either a racist, fascist or communist. Maybe we should start a FAB party to change the laws in our favour." Nah, the daily mail would have a FIT!!!! Lmao  | |||
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"I worked in an egg packing station for three horrendous weeks last year. All my colleagues were Chezck, Polish, Slovak and the hardest working people I have met. Why is it full of immigrants? Because none of the doley bastards in the area will take the work. Theres two sides to every coin....."  | |||
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"Isn't it just fckn fantastic. UK opens its borders "again" and the politicians say everything will be fine and within 8 hours of arriving here 2 Romanians get arrested in London for pick pocketing, and they wonder why so many people are against too much immigration" Our fellow Scots have been going to London to pick pocket for years. Maybe there should have been border controls for them too. My partner is from Poland and when she first came to the UK there were no benefits available and she did not want then anyway if they were. She found no problem getting jobs in places like bottling factories, food factories and care homes not because she was stealing jobs from UK residents but because no UK residents wanted those jobs. When Sky today went to find the floods of Romanians the Daily Mail predicted would flood into the UK, they found one guy arriving at the airport! When we complain about other nationalities coming to the UK, we forget that the British are some of the biggest immigrant populations in other countries around the world. There are something like two million alone in Spain, a country if any that should be complaining about the criminal elements we export to them! | |||
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"I worked in an egg packing station for three horrendous weeks last year. All my colleagues were Chezck, Polish, Slovak and the hardest working people I have met. Why is it full of immigrants? Because none of the doley bastards in the area will take the work. Theres two sides to every coin....." | |||
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"Just before Christmas a 'woman' was begging outside my office in Glasgow. She had a 3 year old kid with her. I offered to call social services to have the kid taken taken in to care and help sought for her situation. Her response was to call me a "fucking racist" and I should "fuck off home" in eastern accented English. Funny, I thought I was in my own country? When I threatened to call the police she ran to a parked car and left asap. Funny thing was the back of the car had an RO sticker on it. " Why 'threaten' to call the cops? Either call the cops or don't call the cops. | |||
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"I worked in an egg packing station for three horrendous weeks last year. All my colleagues were Chezck, Polish, Slovak and the hardest working people I have met. Why is it full of immigrants? Because none of the doley bastards in the area will take the work. Theres two sides to every coin....." | |||
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"I worked in an egg packing station for three horrendous weeks last year. All my colleagues were Chezck, Polish, Slovak and the hardest working people I have met. Why is it full of immigrants? Because none of the doley bastards in the area will take the work. Theres two sides to every coin..... "
Some of these people will burst their arse for minimum wage because its a helluva lot more than what they get in their own country. Some of the people on benefits wont work for minimum wage. | |||
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"Just before Christmas a 'woman' was begging outside my office in Glasgow. She had a 3 year old kid with her. I offered to call social services to have the kid taken taken in to care and help sought for her situation. Her response was to call me a "fucking racist" and I should "fuck off home" in eastern accented English. Funny, I thought I was in my own country? When I threatened to call the police she ran to a parked car and left asap. Funny thing was the back of the car had an RO sticker on it. Why 'threaten' to call the cops? Either call the cops or don't call the cops." Because, by the time the sods turned up she'd have legged it anyway. It pisses me off grand style that these, and I include any UK born, aggressive beggars out with their kids do not attract a social services response. Having, and having had, issues with the SS personally over minor problems, it burns me to see this sort of behaviour. I have no issues with folk coming here to work, I do have issues of them coming here to sponge. We have enough ne'r do wells of our own making. I have people from 12 different countries working alongside me. You should hear what the Spanish really think about 'beggars'. | |||
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" I don't buy all this propaganda about immigrants being the root of all evil. They provide this country with the labour the country needs when nobody here is prepared to get off their backside for £6.31 an hour. Immigrants are good for this country. And how many muggings took place in London yesterday? Probably hundreds, but as usual, certain newspapers decide to make these two an example. Don't always believe what you read people! " Exactly! And these people that come in will learn English and have 2 fluent languages which will open many doors for them. How many of us would go to a strange country and start from scratch to try to better themselves? Give them a chance. | |||
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" I don't buy all this propaganda about immigrants being the root of all evil. They provide this country with the labour the country needs when nobody here is prepared to get off their backside for £6.31 an hour. Immigrants are good for this country. And how many muggings took place in London yesterday? Probably hundreds, but as usual, certain newspapers decide to make these two an example. Don't always believe what you read people! Exactly! And these people that come in will learn English and have 2 fluent languages which will open many doors for them. How many of us would go to a strange country and start from scratch to try to better themselves? Give them a chance. " Give them a chance.
Was just thinking more than likely half of the comments about the immigrants coming and ruining this country are from the same people who post comments about people going to court and are innocent until proven guilty. | |||
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"Isn't it just fckn fantastic. UK opens its borders "again" and the politicians say everything will be fine and within 8 hours of arriving here 2 Romanians get arrested in London for pick pocketing, and they wonder why so many people are against too much immigration" and if we compare these figure's against brits getting banged up abroad for a variety of rather more serious crime's we would definitely have viable ground's for a critical and stereotypical post that anyone might be mistaken for thinking define's all british people...but the fact is that we shouldnt let the actions of the minority paint a negative picture of the majority....i happen to have seen one fella whom i suspected to be romanian outside a club on george street on tuesday night selling rose's and what appeared to be cheap cowboy hat's as you do but what i also noticed was there was what looked to be a purse on the ground and before i had a chance to add it to my collection he was right in there like jack flash lol then again he's no better or worse than the majority of us who are just trying to scratch a living one way or another and before we point the finger at other's we should have a long hard look at ourselve's...its easy to look for a scapegoat in an outsider and all the more easy to turn a blind eye to the transgressions of our fellow countrymen who are commiting all manners of crime and fraud not to make end's meet but to sustain a drug/drink fuelled lifestyle that's paid for by the hard working tax payer like myself....blah blah blah....;) also i dont believe that "so many people" are against immigration...considering the fact that the fact that a large majority of people here are either first,second or 3rd or 4th etc generation immigrants....im an immigrant,albeit not a romanian but id very much like to emigrate to romania and buy a castle in transylvania so they're all more than welcome to come here so that the demand for castle's there will drop and so will the value of them so i can pick me up a cheap castle....i work hard and have never claimed benifits despite being homeless and jobless after finishing my tertiary studie's...yet a rather large number of scots ive known have been rather inclined to accept a free hand out from the government rather than working for a living which is alright for them i guess but it sure aint alright for me...im far to ambitous and possesed to hang about the house watching jeremy kyle and eating bean's on toast or something lol | |||
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" I don't buy all this propaganda about immigrants being the root of all evil. They provide this country with the labour the country needs when nobody here is prepared to get off their backside for £6.31 an hour. Immigrants are good for this country. And how many muggings took place in London yesterday? Probably hundreds, but as usual, certain newspapers decide to make these two an example. Don't always believe what you read people! Exactly! And these people that come in will learn English and have 2 fluent languages which will open many doors for them. How many of us would go to a strange country and start from scratch to try to better themselves? Give them a chance. Give them a chance.
Was just thinking more than likely half of the comments about the immigrants coming and ruining this country are from the same people who post comments about people going to court and are innocent until proven guilty."good on ya for having an open mind buddy....judge not least you be judged first i always say and who are we to judge other's when we're far from perfect ourselves and those that say they are perfect are telling porky pies lol | |||
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" I don't buy all this propaganda about immigrants being the root of all evil. They provide this country with the labour the country needs when nobody here is prepared to get off their backside for £6.31 an hour. Immigrants are good for this country. And how many muggings took place in London yesterday? Probably hundreds, but as usual, certain newspapers decide to make these two an example. Don't always believe what you read people! Exactly! And these people that come in will learn English and have 2 fluent languages which will open many doors for them. How many of us would go to a strange country and start from scratch to try to better themselves? Give them a chance. " to be honest the scots are amongst one of the biggest immigrant group's in the world....you can find scots all over the world....i had a scottish biology teacher from edinburgh whilst i was living in the caribbean....crazy fella but a good man never the less...i know alot of scots abroad  the whole world love's scots because for the most part scots love the whole world go figure | |||
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"just don't give the Beggars - any money.. !! let them resort to stealing instead.. The 3-meals a day Jails like Addiewell - must be better than sleeping on the streets ??" lol well said | |||
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"Isn't it just fckn fantastic. UK opens its borders "again" and the politicians say everything will be fine and within 8 hours of arriving here 2 Romanians get arrested in London for pick pocketing, and they wonder why so many people are against too much immigration Our fellow Scots have been going to London to pick pocket for years. Maybe there should have been border controls for them too. My partner is from Poland and when she first came to the UK there were no benefits available and she did not want then anyway if they were. She found no problem getting jobs in places like bottling factories, food factories and care homes not because she was stealing jobs from UK residents but because no UK residents wanted those jobs. When Sky today went to find the floods of Romanians the Daily Mail predicted would flood into the UK, they found one guy arriving at the airport! When we complain about other nationalities coming to the UK, we forget that the British are some of the biggest immigrant populations in other countries around the world. There are something like two million alone in Spain, a country if any that should be complaining about the criminal elements we export to them!" spot on buddy and god bless the pole's! next to the scots they have to be the best group of folk on the planet! | |||
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"I worked in an egg packing station for three horrendous weeks last year. All my colleagues were Chezck, Polish, Slovak and the hardest working people I have met. Why is it full of immigrants? Because none of the doley bastards in the area will take the work. Theres two sides to every coin....." hahahahahaha | |||
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"I can't find any trace of a 'two Romanians arrested' story in the media. Can anyone point me in the right direction? Thanks in anticipation." The only reference I could find to the "story" is on the following thread - http://www.fabswingers.com/forum/scotland/234798 | |||
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"I can't find any trace of a 'two Romanians arrested' story in the media. Can anyone point me in the right direction? Thanks in anticipation." hold on let me find you the link to the BNP gazette where they had two skinheads with boot polish on their face and fake vampire teeth posing as romanians | |||
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"Isn't it just fckn fantastic. UK opens its borders "again" and the politicians say everything will be fine and within 8 hours of arriving here 2 Romanians get arrested in London for pick pocketing, and they wonder why so many people are against too much immigrationand if we compare these figure's against brits getting banged up abroad for a variety of rather more serious crime's we would definitely have viable ground's for a critical and stereotypical post that anyone might be mistaken for thinking define's all british people...but the fact is that we shouldnt let the actions of the minority paint a negative picture of the majority....i happen to have seen one fella whom i suspected to be romanian outside a club on george street on tuesday night selling rose's and what appeared to be cheap cowboy hat's as you do but what i also noticed was there was what looked to be a purse on the ground and before i had a chance to add it to my collection he was right in there like jack flash lol then again he's no better or worse than the majority of us who are just trying to scratch a living one way or another and before we point the finger at other's we should have a long hard look at ourselve's...its easy to look for a scapegoat in an outsider and all the more easy to turn a blind eye to the transgressions of our fellow countrymen who are commiting all manners of crime and fraud not to make end's meet but to sustain a drug/drink fuelled lifestyle that's paid for by the hard working tax payer like myself....blah blah blah....;) also i dont believe that "so many people" are against immigration...considering the fact that the fact that a large majority of people here are either first,second or 3rd or 4th etc generation immigrants....im an immigrant,albeit not a romanian but id very much like to emigrate to romania and buy a castle in transylvania so they're all more than welcome to come here so that the demand for castle's there will drop and so will the value of them so i can pick me up a cheap castle....i work hard and have never claimed benifits despite being homeless and jobless after finishing my tertiary studie's...yet a rather large number of scots ive known have been rather inclined to accept a free hand out from the government rather than working for a living which is alright for them i guess but it sure aint alright for me...im far to ambitous and possesed to hang about the house watching jeremy kyle and eating bean's on toast or something lol" Could we please dispel this myth that the British are a mongrel race and the majority of Brits are immigrants themselves (although if you go back far enough the people in all countries are immigrants, if the theory of all mankind originating in and spreading out of Africa is accepted). Genetic studies have proved that around 80% of British people have DNA evidence of their ancestry going back 12,000 years on these islands. Added to which DNA evidence has also revealed some may go back as much as 40,000 years in the British Isles. The waves of comparatively small immigration over the centuries by Normans, Vikings etc., has had remarkably small impact on the overall DNA picture, which remains doggedly 'indigenous British'for the majority. In fact, indigenous Brits have been in these islands longer than some peoples in other lands who are regarded as indigenous to their countries - Maoris in New Zealand being a clear example. | |||
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"Unfortunately this country seems to thrive on helping others - even when there are pensioners freezing to death because they can't afford food AND heating. And I always thought that charity began at home
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"Unfortunately this country seems to thrive on helping others - even when there are pensioners freezing to death because they can't afford food AND heating. And I always thought that charity began at home
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"Isn't it just fckn fantastic. UK opens its borders "again" and the politicians say everything will be fine and within 8 hours of arriving here 2 Romanians get arrested in London for pick pocketing, and they wonder why so many people are against too much immigrationand if we compare these figure's against brits getting banged up abroad for a variety of rather more serious crime's we would definitely have viable ground's for a critical and stereotypical post that anyone might be mistaken for thinking define's all british people...but the fact is that we shouldnt let the actions of the minority paint a negative picture of the majority....i happen to have seen one fella whom i suspected to be romanian outside a club on george street on tuesday night selling rose's and what appeared to be cheap cowboy hat's as you do but what i also noticed was there was what looked to be a purse on the ground and before i had a chance to add it to my collection he was right in there like jack flash lol then again he's no better or worse than the majority of us who are just trying to scratch a living one way or another and before we point the finger at other's we should have a long hard look at ourselve's...its easy to look for a scapegoat in an outsider and all the more easy to turn a blind eye to the transgressions of our fellow countrymen who are commiting all manners of crime and fraud not to make end's meet but to sustain a drug/drink fuelled lifestyle that's paid for by the hard working tax payer like myself....blah blah blah....;) also i dont believe that "so many people" are against immigration...considering the fact that the fact that a large majority of people here are either first,second or 3rd or 4th etc generation immigrants....im an immigrant,albeit not a romanian but id very much like to emigrate to romania and buy a castle in transylvania so they're all more than welcome to come here so that the demand for castle's there will drop and so will the value of them so i can pick me up a cheap castle....i work hard and have never claimed benifits despite being homeless and jobless after finishing my tertiary studie's...yet a rather large number of scots ive known have been rather inclined to accept a free hand out from the government rather than working for a living which is alright for them i guess but it sure aint alright for me...im far to ambitous and possesed to hang about the house watching jeremy kyle and eating bean's on toast or something lol Could we please dispel this myth that the British are a mongrel race and the majority of Brits are immigrants themselves (although if you go back far enough the people in all countries are immigrants, if the theory of all mankind originating in and spreading out of Africa is accepted). Genetic studies have proved that around 80% of British people have DNA evidence of their ancestry going back 12,000 years on these islands. Added to which DNA evidence has also revealed some may go back as much as 40,000 years in the British Isles. The waves of comparatively small immigration over the centuries by Normans, Vikings etc., has had remarkably small impact on the overall DNA picture, which remains doggedly 'indigenous British'for the majority. In fact, indigenous Brits have been in these islands longer than some peoples in other lands who are regarded as indigenous to their countries - Maoris in New Zealand being a clear example. " there is only one race...the human race...which is made up of a variety of individuals from varying geographical backgrounds and with diverse characteristic traits that make the world an interesting place being that variety is the spice of life... | |||
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"I can't find any trace of a 'two Romanians arrested' story in the media. Can anyone point me in the right direction? Thanks in anticipation." Any progress on finding what is increasingly looking like a made up story? | |||
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"Just out of curiosity, does anyone know how many Romanian pickpockets are arrested on an average day, pre-the mass invasion the Tory press has promised us, in London? And how many native born Londoners?" dont have the info you asked about _nny, but i did read a report where a senior police officer from staffordshire was calling for urgent action to deal with immigrants. Apparently they are responsible for 7.5% of crime in his area. No mention of what action was to be taken in regards the other 92.5% though.  | |||
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"Just out of curiosity, does anyone know how many Romanian pickpockets are arrested on an average day, pre-the mass invasion the Tory press has promised us, in London? And how many native born Londoners?" In terms of percentage of the population it's difficult to tell as we don't have exact figures for how many Romanians are here. There are only guesstimates. | |||
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"Just out of curiosity, does anyone know how many Romanian pickpockets are arrested on an average day, pre-the mass invasion the Tory press has promised us, in London? And how many native born Londoners? In terms of percentage of the population it's difficult to tell as we don't have exact figures for how many Romanians are here. There are only guesstimates." Percentages ain't too important in this case. We're told two Romanians were arrested the day the 'borders opened' . How many were arrested the day before? How many Polish folk? Or English? Or Scots? | |||
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"Just out of curiosity, does anyone know how many Romanian pickpockets are arrested on an average day, pre-the mass invasion the Tory press has promised us, in London? And how many native born Londoners? In terms of percentage of the population it's difficult to tell as we don't have exact figures for how many Romanians are here. There are only guesstimates. Percentages ain't too important in this case. We're told two Romanians were arrested the day the 'borders opened' . How many were arrested the day before? How many Polish folk? Or English? Or Scots?" Your question was a general enquiry that could be measured by simple statistics though. It didn't refer to a specific case. | |||
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"Just out of curiosity, does anyone know how many Romanian pickpockets are arrested on an average day, pre-the mass invasion the Tory press has promised us, in London? And how many native born Londoners? In terms of percentage of the population it's difficult to tell as we don't have exact figures for how many Romanians are here. There are only guesstimates. Percentages ain't too important in this case. We're told two Romanians were arrested the day the 'borders opened' . How many were arrested the day before? How many Polish folk? Or English? Or Scots? Your question was a general enquiry that could be measured by simple statistics though. It didn't refer to a specific case." No. It referred to the first post in this thread. Specifically the (alleged) arrest of two Romanian pickpockets. | |||
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"No. It referred to the first post in this thread. Specifically the (alleged) arrest of two Romanian pickpockets." No. Quoted your post exactly above. It was a separate question. It didn't reference the OP at all. | |||
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"No. It referred to the first post in this thread. Specifically the (alleged) arrest of two Romanian pickpockets. No. Quoted your post exactly above. It was a separate question. It didn't reference the OP at all." You're right. It was clearly an entirely random coincidence that I posed the question on this thread. Nobody could possibly have imagine the two were in any way connected. | |||
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"No. It referred to the first post in this thread. Specifically the (alleged) arrest of two Romanian pickpockets. No. Quoted your post exactly above. It was a separate question. It didn't reference the OP at all. You're right. It was clearly an entirely random coincidence that I posed the question on this thread. Nobody could possibly have imagine the two were in any way connected." If it was a rhetorical question and wasn't looking for an actual answer you should just have said so. | |||
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"No. It referred to the first post in this thread. Specifically the (alleged) arrest of two Romanian pickpockets. No. Quoted your post exactly above. It was a separate question. It didn't reference the OP at all. You're right. It was clearly an entirely random coincidence that I posed the question on this thread. Nobody could possibly have imagine the two were in any way connected. If it was a rhetorical question and wasn't looking for an actual answer you should just have said so." I had hoped for an answer but, in truth, my hope wasn't high. | |||
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" I had hoped for an answer but, in truth, my hope wasn't high." To quote our earlier post: 'In terms of percentage of the population it's difficult to tell as we don't have exact figures for how many Romanians are here. There are only guesstimates.' But then you said it didn't matter as you were really just referring to the OP's (possibly untrue) post. You have to make your mind up here. | |||
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" I had hoped for an answer but, in truth, my hope wasn't high. To quote our earlier post: 'In terms of percentage of the population it's difficult to tell as we don't have exact figures for how many Romanians are here. There are only guesstimates.' But then you said it didn't matter as you were really just referring to the OP's (possibly untrue) post. You have to make your mind up here." I said the percentage didn't matter because the OP had quoted a number - in this case 2. Not that the OP had claimed x% of Romanians had been arrested. | |||
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"Just out of curiosity, does anyone know how many Romanian pickpockets are arrested on an average day, pre-the mass invasion the Tory press has promised us, in London? And how many native born Londoners?" ... | |||
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"So was the story true or scaremongering
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"I doubt we'll ever know and without context what can it tell us anyway? We don't know how many were arrested the day before so what can we deduce from the OP? | |||
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"Isn't it just fckn fantastic. UK opens its borders "again" and the politicians say everything will be fine and within 8 hours of arriving here 2 Romanians get arrested in London for pick pocketing, and they wonder why so many people are against too much immigration" ...and how many pissed up Brits cause havoc whilst "holidaying" in Romania, Bulgaria etc etc...? | |||
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"Following redundancy I have been forced to move my family to one of Aberdeen's less salubrious neighbourhoods. We have a fair few immigrants living close by. Without exception they are great neighbours. On the other hand many of the Scots are a disgrace. Often unemployed, alcoholic or junkies. They embarrass me when they boast of their Scottish heritage. I would be delighted if we could swap them for as many hardworking, ambitious, educated and courteous immigrants as possible. "
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"There's good and bad everywhere but if you want to see the other side of the coin, visit Glasgow's Govanhill." Why, is it a place you would avoid daytime evening or after dark? If money invested wisely can pacify the Hyyaniyah district then surely the same can apply in our own county. 
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"There's good and bad everywhere but if you want to see the other side of the coin, visit Glasgow's Govanhill. Why, is it a place you would avoid daytime evening or after dark? ................. " I wouldn't go there at all. Any time, day or night. 1) because it's south of the river and there's no need to go south of the river for anything. The river is there for a reason. 2) because it's a dump. Only a few years ago it was a bit down at heel but offered a wide selection of ethnic food shops - butchers, fruiterers, fishmongers etc but in the last few years it's become a 15 to a room slum, owned by absentee landlords (who give the good guys a bad name). Nothing a few days heavy bombardment wouldn't cure. | |||
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"If we resort to "heavy bombardment " then surely we would be as well building a ghetto. I like visiting the soutside for the variety it offers. " I salute your indefatigability, as George might have said. | |||
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"If we resort to "heavy bombardment " then surely we would be as well building a ghetto. I like visiting the soutside for the variety it offers. I salute your indefatigability, as George might have said." Having seen diplomacy stagnate the resort to violence only leads to sorrow hurt and mistrust of Government. Thread getting derailed sorry folks George is a prick though | |||
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" Could we please dispel this myth that the British are a mongrel race and the majority of Brits are immigrants themselves (although if you go back far enough the people in all countries are immigrants, if the theory of all mankind originating in and spreading out of Africa is accepted). Genetic studies have proved that around 80% of British people have DNA evidence of their ancestry going back 12,000 years on these islands. Added to which DNA evidence has also revealed some may go back as much as 40,000 years in the British Isles." Well, the Celts came from Portugal-way, everyone with blue eyes has Turkish ancestry , a large percentage of Scots and northern English have Scandinavian blood and Saxon, Norman and Germanic races populated and altered culture significantly in England. Not to mention the 'Romans', mostly from Gaul, and the influx of people from the Empire. I can kind of see where the mongrel tag comes from. | |||
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" Could we please dispel this myth that the British are a mongrel race and the majority of Brits are immigrants themselves (although if you go back far enough the people in all countries are immigrants, if the theory of all mankind originating in and spreading out of Africa is accepted). Genetic studies have proved that around 80% of British people have DNA evidence of their ancestry going back 12,000 years on these islands. Added to which DNA evidence has also revealed some may go back as much as 40,000 years in the British Isles. Well, the Celts came from Portugal-way, everyone with blue eyes has Turkish ancestry , a large percentage of Scots and northern English have Scandinavian blood and Saxon, Norman and Germanic races populated and altered culture significantly in England. Not to mention the 'Romans', mostly from Gaul, and the influx of people from the Empire. I can kind of see where the mongrel tag comes from. " Google and read Prof Stephen Oppenheimer's genetic studies and you'll see that the DNA make-up of the British people has been minimally affected by the relatively small phases of immigration in over 2 millenia. The effects of the Roman's, Viking's, et al, DNA amounts to less than circa 20% within the indigenous Brits. Invaders came and, largely, went again, leaving only some of their numbers behind who settled, integrated into the population and of course made their imprints on our culture. As a nation we are no more mongrels than, say, the French, Germans, Italians, etc. whose borders have been porous throughout history, certainly far more so than ours, thanks to Britain's island status. Strangely though, no-one ever seems to label our European cousins with the insulting and factually wrong,'mongrels'. The influx from mass immigration in recent years is a whole different matter..... | |||
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"I wonder what difference, if any, recent (say post 1945) immigration will make to the national DNA profile. I dunno about Newton Stewart but there's not a lot of inter-marriage in Glasgow." Lol - not here either, but then here in a very rural area we seem to have only a few Poles who insist on keeping themselves to themselves. | |||
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