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"tart2 We think its a good idea if you have people from both the East & West who are known and trusted site members, who are willing to take on the responsibilty of running the social's on a regular basis. The teams could talk and disscuss where and when they are going to have a social so they don't clash. One way of reducing this occuring again is to have only verified couples and singles at the socials. However there is no way you can stop people from organising their own social events.. We think what has happend to recent events as well as one we oganised previously is hurtful and spiteful as lot of time and effort goes into organising these social..and why should the nasty few spoil it all...for the fabby many.. George n Liz..xx" tottaly agree with u ....u cant stop people but i think people need to think before going to a social if that member has never done a social before. | |||
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"Ok been thinking about things and what i feel is that we should stick to a small team that organise socials..........to many people are jumping on the bandwaggon of organising them..... if a small team do it then trust can be built up and less issues happen. Obviously the recent problems siouxwan2 has had then also the dissasterous social buzz had backs up what i mean....the more people organising them the more problems there may be. If they same people do it the tightter it can become, the trust is built up and strategies can be built up.... what do people think??? any other ideas???" good point jo hun but as i have always done social nites out an drinks lunches since i started i thought that most in fab trusted an new me by now seems i was wrong ( DOES NOT INCLUDE MY FABBY FRIENDS I HAVE MADE JIST A FEW OF THOSE EEJITS ) i have kinda got to the bottom of this now an will not be mentioning names, but yes i feel that the trust has gone now an and others like play an jacs who arange socials for all to enjoy an raise money for i think the only way forward is to have only verified peeps an those who have been on site for longer than 3 /4 months . or as my next event maybe we will only be asking those from now on i know i can trust so they will be emailed privately which seems so unfair as newbies neva get the chance to make friends or meet those they have been talking to in chat then . its jist so sad that this person has no life and has to subject others to his her/ both whom eva it may be and take the opportunity of raising cash for others less fortunate than themselves . as we all know loosing someone close is neva easy an spec with children as a few on site already know . raising money has been a good way of helping our fabby friends help to cope with the loss or even the thot of loosing someone or to help rebuild a life once completely shatterd . thoughtless none the less this person is few an far between an as i have stated they ... WILL NEVA EVA TELL US WHERE EOR WHEN A VENUE CAN OR WILL BE HELD AS WE ALL DO SO MUCH GOOD FOR CHOSEN CHARITIES . SO A BIG THANKYOU TO ALL THOSE WHO DO MAKE FAB A GOOD AN THOUGHTFUL PLACE AND GOOD NITES OUT AND SUPPORT OUR WORTHY CAUSES . sioux xxxx | |||
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"One way of reducing this occuring again is to have only verified couples and singles at the socials. George n Liz..xx" One problem with this is that a lot of newbies use the socials as a way to meet people and become verified. Plus if anyone really wanted to go (to mess it up), it's not difficult to get verified. As it's been said before if the newspapers were to turn up at a social, what would the story be?... a bunch of normal looking people attending a social party? ![]() | |||
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"thing with 2 ppl holding one in west one in east is the venue is someone goes to one then they know the venue if they then take hump wi person are we having to change venue all the time ?? a site that we used before socials were organised with a "nominated" person/couple and the people attending had to be site members for more than 6 months maybe a good idea as this site is free most of the time all the people are genuine and want a good night out but hey there is always one (or 2) in every chat room want to waste it for all ok my 2p " totally agree with u sc have always tht that shd only be veri members at socials xxxxxxxxxx | |||
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"good idea and i understand a bout the social that fucked up, but end of day if people want to go to one its up to them if the go and send money i understand organising one isnt easy... maybe a suggestion would be if someone wants to a social then they buddy up with someone who has done one ??? and then monies and social venue is booked can be check by the buddy ?? " hence why 3 of us on this one fife hun so much easier to keep track as well. | |||
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"Ok been thinking about things and what i feel is that we should stick to a small team that organise socials..........to many people are jumping on the bandwaggon of organising them..... if a small team do it then trust can be built up and less issues happen. Obviously the recent problems siouxwan2 has had then also the dissasterous social buzz had backs up what i mean....the more people organising them the more problems there may be. If they same people do it the tightter it can become, the trust is built up and strategies can be built up.... what do people think??? any other ideas???" that is not a bad idea... as long as people are going to spread them over different cities...... I was looking as possibly trying to organise one for edinburgh.. but have just seen people basically organising socials now so close together than I think my window for trying to get as many people going as possible has gone.... as long as they are set out for different places and spaced out so that it give people the time to get sorted between events then I would be up for this.... as if we are going to do this, can i also suggest 2 other things.... 1) rather than block booking spaces... may people who want to go actually put there names downs.... I think it is unfair for one person/couple to ask for 6-8 tickets..... 2) open up the getting of tickets closer to the event... one site i am on doesn't open them up till 10 weeks before the event...... so of us on floating shifts mean we don't know what shifts we are on 6 months beforehand and at the speed these things fill up then newer people don't have the chance to go because its already filled.... | |||
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"I know we don't go to the socials so shouldn't really have a view.......but can I ask a question? The venue backed off because they found out you were a swinging social........wouldn't it be easier to try and find places to hire that you can tell the truth that it is a swingers get together? Or do most places back off if you mention swinging? Great post by the way Voluptuos " having organised a few I can answer some of your questions.... what I have told venues is that the people I am organising it for is of an "adult" nature (thats my kop out way of saying it. ![]() | |||
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"thanks... just been having some more thoughts.... just from when i organised big site socials on other sites.. I think the key one for the future is the giving out of the actually address detials as close to the event time as possible.... 5-7 days is what I always went with.. and only those who confirmed got the details... I would love to set up some sort of social calander... and get the site to call it something else other than a "social"(not going to say the "m" word for now... but it may be heading that way) lets just say for now every 6 weeks and put them in different parts of scotland, that way they feel special and people can make genuine weekends of the events, but like someone said before, I don't think you are going to be able to stop people organising there own little socials... being on the outside and Having been to my first scotish social...I think you do have something special going on... the key is not to milk it dry but I think we have hit saturation point a bit here..... not having a dig at anyones socials... but 2 in the area within 4 weeks of each other does smack of people not talking to each other, plus it stop other people from organising others.... for example... I wouldn't want to be the one to split the site by organising another on the same night elsewhere..... I hope it does get sorted..... I want to see all of scotland and meet as many people as possible... but if they are too close together.. then financially as much as anything, people are not going to be able to do it........ and people are going to end up burning themselves out....." good points there _abio but ....... i neva give out details till week before an i only gave those who had paid the veuue details so where did we go wrong? mail will now only be sent out on the day an to peoples hotmail account or yahoo which ever they do use or those who;s numbers i do have will be txt the venue . i am not new to doing socials an have arranged a good few with no probs what so eva untill now lol but it could have been anyones this person wished to sabbotage jist luck of the draw ours was first out on the dates . but yip i can say if any one has any better ideas on how to arrange them then im all for it . as in all ways my first priority is to those coming an i explain that by asking them not to give venue details out to any one . or let it slip where evenue is but alsa some slip thru .. | |||
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"I can really see all the points that have been made but it does sadden me. If i were new on here then until i had met someone and or been on the site a few months i could not attend a social. Equally if it is the same people arranging them all the time..then it becomes a 'club' not the free moving social entity that it is supposed to be. There are also those who for many reasons ask not to be verified. It would then..more than ever...be seen as a 'clique' activity. Bluntly if it is by private invite only..or the same people and same invitees only..then you would be as well just mailing you mates and suggesting meeting at the pub or someones house. I would respectfully suggest that if people want to have 'private' socials and heavily monitor the guest list..then these should never be mentioned in the forums and not spoken about at all..clearly then they cease to be what we now consider a social... Part of the ethos of a social is to meet those you have not met before..new members and old. The chance to socialise and lay eyes on someone you had never met..or perhaps considered till this point. There are loads of reasons for and against but I would be saddened if the socials became a 'clique' event with a limited invite list. Until all who partake in this hobby can stand proud and say that they do..these issues will always exist and we just need to learn to deal with it the best we can. It is a knee jerk reaction to try and create sanctions and a plethora of rules simply because some small minded person tried to ruin a social gather of like minded people. Only my opinion but part of the allure of swinging is the fact that is its open to anyone and there are always new and old faces appearing and reappearing and lets be honest..if we all just wanted to fuck the familiar face...we wouldnt swing now...would we ![]() HERE HERE! could not have put it better ourselves. very valid points about same organisers making it into a their friends only type social, no disrespect to them but to a degree this happens now, yes when a social is mentioned in forums the names are fast and furiously posted in a rush to get places, please don't exclude newbies to the site, they are nervous enough at meeting so socials are ideal to break the ice. As for the east/west area socials, from the 2 Fife socials we've attewnded there have been loads of folk from west side country.... it;s each to their own some folks will travel miles for a good party, so don't let the few idiots spoil events of the other genuine members of Fab. XX Heather & Allan | |||
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"Don’t attend socials, but after reading this thread and others it’s quite sad what’s happened. However why do you have to give out the venue details to anyone? Why not all meet up at a local pub/public place near the venue at an arranged time, then just move onto the venue. " perhaps not that practical when ur talking 150+ ppl!!! | |||
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"Ok been thinking about things and what i feel is that we should stick to a small team that organise socials..........to many people are jumping on the bandwaggon of organising them..... if a small team do it then trust can be built up and less issues happen. Obviously the recent problems siouxwan2 has had then also the dissasterous social buzz had backs up what i mean....the more people organising them the more problems there may be. If they same people do it the tightter it can become, the trust is built up and strategies can be built up.... what do people think??? any other ideas???" Jo you are absolutely spot on.... Difficulty (IMO) lie's with who is going to be the 'deciding authority' on who can have them and who can't..... There are people on here who have done them for ages and others who want part of the action too, I can't keep up with them all! I guess the many different socials offer choice and something different??? To be honest there are a number of socials advertised on here that I wouldn't consider stepping foot in but thats my business and my choice. I've heard so many disaster social stories including the socials you mention, as well as a certain social that charged different people different prices not to mention threats about certain tabloids being involved..... If I'm honest there has become such a sense of rivalry between some people organising some socials that I've found it quite off putting and opted not to go. Hearing about what has happened at Sioux's social has put us off ever stepping foot in another.... So a big "up yours" to the seemingly sad looser who attempted to ruin Sioux's social, clearly they aren't into the real essence of this lifestyle at all and are more intent on wrecking what will probably be a bloody good night! x | |||
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"Ok been thinking about things and what i feel is that we should stick to a small team that organise socials..........to many people are jumping on the bandwaggon of organising them..... if a small team do it then trust can be built up and less issues happen. Obviously the recent problems siouxwan2 has had then also the dissasterous social buzz had backs up what i mean....the more people organising them the more problems there may be. If they same people do it the tightter it can become, the trust is built up and strategies can be built up.... what do people think??? any other ideas??? Jo you are absolutely spot on.... Difficulty (IMO) lie's with who is going to be the 'deciding authority' on who can have them and who can't..... There are people on here who have done them for ages and others who want part of the action too, I can't keep up with them all! I guess the many different socials offer choice and something different??? To be honest there are a number of socials advertised on here that I wouldn't consider stepping foot in but thats my business and my choice. I've heard so many disaster social stories including the socials you mention, as well as a certain social that charged different people different prices not to mention threats about certain tabloids being involved..... If I'm honest there has become such a sense of rivalry between some people organising some socials that I've found it quite off putting and opted not to go. Hearing about what has happened at Sioux's social has put us off ever stepping foot in another.... So a big "up yours" to the seemingly sad looser who attempted to ruin Sioux's social, clearly they aren't into the real essence of this lifestyle at all and are more intent on wrecking what will probably be a bloody good night! x" I didn't see my social as wanting to grab 'part of the action' or as a rival force to others who organise socials, it was simply my wish to have a big happy birthday party with all my friends in one place. But don't worry I get the message.... I shan't bother organising another. | |||
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"Ok been thinking about things and what i feel is that we should stick to a small team that organise socials..........to many people are jumping on the bandwaggon of organising them..... if a small team do it then trust can be built up and less issues happen. Obviously the recent problems siouxwan2 has had then also the dissasterous social buzz had backs up what i mean....the more people organising them the more problems there may be. If they same people do it the tightter it can become, the trust is built up and strategies can be built up.... what do people think??? any other ideas??? Jo you are absolutely spot on.... Difficulty (IMO) lie's with who is going to be the 'deciding authority' on who can have them and who can't..... There are people on here who have done them for ages and others who want part of the action too, I can't keep up with them all! I guess the many different socials offer choice and something different??? To be honest there are a number of socials advertised on here that I wouldn't consider stepping foot in but thats my business and my choice. I've heard so many disaster social stories including the socials you mention, as well as a certain social that charged different people different prices not to mention threats about certain tabloids being involved..... If I'm honest there has become such a sense of rivalry between some people organising some socials that I've found it quite off putting and opted not to go. Hearing about what has happened at Sioux's social has put us off ever stepping foot in another.... So a big "up yours" to the seemingly sad looser who attempted to ruin Sioux's social, clearly they aren't into the real essence of this lifestyle at all and are more intent on wrecking what will probably be a bloody good night! x I didn't see my social as wanting to grab 'part of the action' or as a rival force to others who organise socials, it was simply my wish to have a big happy birthday party with all my friends in one place. But don't worry I get the message.... I shan't bother organising another." Oh my god Laine I wasn't meaning you!!!!!! Sorry if it seemed that way ![]() | |||
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"okay.... a few things than could be raised with the help of admin... 1) is there any way we can have some sort of "social calander" sticky... that way potential organisers and people who want to go can: a) see what is out there on certain dates b) stop the social overload and get them spaced out better... c) finally get people from the same areas to organise socials together that then same area socials organised by different people weeks apart..... I think there is consensus that newbies shouldn't be discouraged from going and vol made some great points... I was just working on something just to see if it would work with regard to spreading the socials around a bit.... if for example to say every 5 weeks... so we have 10 "fab sponsored scottish socials" a year..... and stick them in different locations..... my scottish geography is crap so just something i scribbled social 1:Perth social 2:Glasgow social 3:Aberdeen social 4:Edinburgh social 5:Ayr social 6:Dundee social 7:Glasgow social 8:Inverness social 9:Edinburgh social 10:Dumfries feel free to pick apart as you wish... only reason edinburgh and glasgow got two each is that they have the biggest centres of population.... that would give people from all over scotland a chance to go..... it would locals a chance to be meet the regulars... and people to make big weekends of the events.... obviously the plan would only work if people in those areas decided to co operate but something like this may bring the buzz back.... feel free to rip!!!! ![]() ![]() ![]() socials are organised by individual fab members and are not sponsored by the site in anyway nor do they take any responsibility for what may or may not occur at them....... Good idea though! ![]() | |||
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"the best way is verified/ 6 plus mths on site if non verified folk let them do there own as most folk on here that do socials no each other " May i say that wasnt you going to this social and you say 6 mths when you have only been on this site for three weeks a little hypocritical i think . mmmmmmmmmm | |||
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"yes and they got to know each other through TRUST!!!!!!!!!!!!! which is kind of hard to develop if they dont get the chance?? one sad sick twisted individual shouldnt ruin it for the genuine people and if people dont show their verifications what next?? xx" verifications should be shown shouldnt be allowed to hide them | |||
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"how can you be friends with yourself on your profile???? strange?? for many GENUINE newbies the socials are a chance to get verified and prove they can be TRUSTED. im still sickened someone could do that utterly sickened!! ![]() yea i want to know that too how ya can be ,mates wie ya self xxxxxxxxx | |||
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"how can you be friends with yourself on your profile???? strange?? for many GENUINE newbies the socials are a chance to get verified and prove they can be TRUSTED. im still sickened someone could do that utterly sickened!! ![]() i love me i should be able to friends with me!!! but cant add myself as friend hmmmmmmmmmm????????x | |||
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"how can you be friends with yourself on your profile???? strange?? for many GENUINE newbies the socials are a chance to get verified and prove they can be TRUSTED. im still sickened someone could do that utterly sickened!! ![]() ill love you hun wanna be friends xxxxxxxxxxxx ![]() ![]() | |||
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"yes and they got to know each other through TRUST!!!!!!!!!!!!! which is kind of hard to develop if they dont get the chance?? one sad sick twisted individual shouldnt ruin it for the genuine people and if people dont show their verifications what next?? xxverifications should be shown shouldnt be allowed to hide them" thats just crazy talk!! verifications are a choice..choice to get them...choice to show them. I know that i dont show all of mine as i dont like to see a big list of verifications..others dont like to show any at all. However..in my opinion its outrageous to exclude people from socials on the grounds of verifications or longevity on the site. If thats hows its going..then its 'clique central' and destroys the very ethos of swinging. vol xx | |||
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"yes and they got to know each other through TRUST!!!!!!!!!!!!! which is kind of hard to develop if they dont get the chance?? one sad sick twisted individual shouldnt ruin it for the genuine people and if people dont show their verifications what next?? xxverifications should be shown shouldnt be allowed to hide them thats just crazy talk!! verifications are a choice..choice to get them...choice to show them. I know that i dont show all of mine as i dont like to see a big list of verifications..others dont like to show any at all. However..in my opinion its outrageous to exclude people from socials on the grounds of verifications or longevity on the site. If thats hows its going..then its 'clique central' and destroys the very ethos of swinging. vol xx" totally agree vol!! i dont show mine as its no ones business, but know that i could ask any of my previous meets to vouch for me if i needed them too xx | |||
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"yes and they got to know each other through TRUST!!!!!!!!!!!!! which is kind of hard to develop if they dont get the chance?? one sad sick twisted individual shouldnt ruin it for the genuine people and if people dont show their verifications what next?? xxverifications should be shown shouldnt be allowed to hide them thats just crazy talk!! verifications are a choice..choice to get them...choice to show them. I know that i dont show all of mine as i dont like to see a big list of verifications..others dont like to show any at all. However..in my opinion its outrageous to exclude people from socials on the grounds of verifications or longevity on the site. If thats hows its going..then its 'clique central' and destroys the very ethos of swinging. vol xx" Call me naive, but when organising my birthday party I stated first come first serve for the places, irrespective of whether they were close friends, acquaintances, new 'faces' old 'faces' couples or singles. I did not ask for verifications longevity of membership or any other factors... I extended my TRUST to those wishing to come, I HOPE they repay me with theirs. Everyone is equal here in my eyes no matter how long (or not) they have been with FAB. Everyone starts off as newbies and when I was one trust was shown to me. As in all things what goes around comes around. Good or bad. xxx | |||
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"Whoever it was will be loving the attention it is bringing him/her/them, so if a line is drawn under it, they get no more attention. Even better would be a good time had by all on the social and lots of money raised for the chosen charity. wel said ruby xx That will be good enough revenge, knowing they couldn't stop it happening ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | |||
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"Whoever it was will be loving the attention it is bringing him/her/them, so if a line is drawn under it, they get no more attention. Even better would be a good time had by all on the social and lots of money raised for the chosen charity. wel said ruby xx That will be good enough revenge, knowing they couldn't stop it happening ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Is my post a rolling eye post? | |||
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"no one said you were?? it was the person who tried to fuck up the social we meant or are you that person?? surely not!!!!!!!!!! " am very sorry you did put it under my post and no i am not that person i like to have a laugh in forums i aint that sick as for you info i did lose a child a few yrs back | |||
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"lol I thought you meant me then being the most hated person....and I was going to say it might be my whip that does it lol ![]() NO HUN WE LOVE YOU XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX | |||
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"no one said you were?? it was the person who tried to fuck up the social we meant or are you that person?? surely not!!!!!!!!!! am very sorry you did put it under my post and no i am not that person i like to have a laugh in forums i aint that sick as for you info i did lose a child a few yrs back " im really sorry for your loss and my heart goes out to you for that to happen is somethin i could never cope with but i never mentioned anythin like that?? once again sorry for your loss xx | |||
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"no one said you were?? it was the person who tried to fuck up the social we meant or are you that person?? surely not!!!!!!!!!! am very sorry you did put it under my post and no i am not that person i like to have a laugh in forums i aint that sick as for you info i did lose a child a few yrs back ok sorry just thought you were getting at me not to worry we shall leave it there hun xxx im really sorry for your loss and my heart goes out to you for that to happen is somethin i could never cope with but i never mentioned anythin like that?? once again sorry for your loss xx" | |||
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"lol @ bren" im coming down in a wk hope to meet ya hun xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx ill mail ya xxxxxxxxxx ![]() ![]() | |||
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"Ok xx And I have to be honest, we fancy a social up in Scotland one time, but your sofa is safe nwzty, we snore !! ![]() Get yerselves up here for my birthday then lol !! ![]() | |||
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"Swinging is a lovely exciting,spontanious,schedule-less thing,which is part of the excitement, likewise with socials, love idea of only X amount responsible for organising them,pick the socials you fancy going to with the same freedom you choose who and when to swing with,just a thought. T xx" spontanious and schedule-less... great if you don't have kids, or work, or a million other things called "real life" thats gets in the way..... for the rest of us mere mortals these things do take some planning... said by someone slap bang in the middle of the 3 socials..... lol so you have one on feb 19th... then one on march 7... then one march 20th.... all just a few miles from each other.... 3 over the stretch on 5 weekends... great if you live nearby!!! I would love to get to as many scottish socials is humanly possible.... to support as many good events as possible, but when it gets to the stage of asking people who don't live by, to get 3 hotels rooms, or to travel 3 times then it gets to the point where people have to pick and choose not because they want to... but because they have to! I wish I could afford to go to all 3..... but I can't, and I am sure that others will have to make choices likewise...... So all I we suggesting is that organisors "could" have some consideration and space them out better, hence some sort of social calandar | |||
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