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By *akedninja OP   Man
over a year ago

edinburgh

....so why do we still do it?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Gotta suck on something

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By *awty_MissDynomiteNo1Woman
over a year ago

No idea, I'm lost. Damn Sat nav!


"....so why do we still do it?"
I don't

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By *akedninja OP   Man
over a year ago

edinburgh


"Gotta suck on something "
what about marmite flavored candy?

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By *akedninja OP   Man
over a year ago

edinburgh


"....so why do we still do it?I don't "
whey hey...me neither! Good on ya! Now what about everyone else!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I don't, never have. No bad habits at all

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I smoke and don't intend to give up

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"....so why do we still do it?"

From the minute you're born you're in a one way ticket OUT. I don't tell 4 x 4 Drivers not to drive them or have more than one & cause more danage to the dnvirinment, or a booze hound not to drink & go home & cause chaos, or people shopping to stop collecting even more carrier bags that will go into landfill, or Dictators & their Opposition rebels to stop using nerve agents on their innocent citizens, or for ConDems to consider arming more extremist cranks so that one day there's another Saddam Hussein, or for people who clearly can't afford kids to stop having sex & adding to an already fucked up world.

Let me smoke away from you in peace with my fellow addicts & leave me the feck alone.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

gave up 3 n half years ago on patches

an will power

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"....so why do we still do it?"

But I still ya. Lol!

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By *akedninja OP   Man
over a year ago

edinburgh


"I don't, never have. No bad habits at all "
lies! You were chain smoking along with a list of other bad habits the last party we had lol

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By *illow PimpMan
over a year ago

Midlothian

My mate ran marathons, never smoked, never drank alcohol was fit as fuck and got killed on his bike.

Why did he cycle ?

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By *akedninja OP   Man
over a year ago

edinburgh


"I smoke and don't intend to give up "
thats the spirit! Cancer never gives up so why should you!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Everyone dies at some point if your times up its up

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By *akedninja OP   Man
over a year ago

edinburgh

Aint nobody telling you not to smoke..if you wanna punch your ticket before anyone else then all the better for us that remain to enjoy the smoke free air that you will leave behind I simply asked "why" because im looking for answers to better understand my fellow man & the world we live in...perhaps you shouldn't opt to bury your head in the sand in relation to all the aforementioned issues you stated there..it's a crime in itself that we all stand by & say or do nothing whilst the world crumbles around us;-) power to the sheeple!
"....so why do we still do it?

From the minute you're born you're in a one way ticket OUT. I don't tell 4 x 4 Drivers not to drive them or have more than one & cause more danage to the dnvirinment, or a booze hound not to drink & go home & cause chaos, or people shopping to stop collecting even more carrier bags that will go into landfill, or Dictators & their Opposition rebels to stop using nerve agents on their innocent citizens, or for ConDems to consider arming more extremist cranks so that one day there's another Saddam Hussein, or for people who clearly can't afford kids to stop having sex & adding to an already fucked up world.

Let me smoke away from you in peace with my fellow addicts & leave me the feck alone.

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By *akedninja OP   Man
over a year ago

edinburgh


"My mate ran marathons, never smoked, never drank alcohol was fit as fuck and got killed on his bike.

Why did he cycle ? "

my mate smoked his whole life since the age of 9 & gradually progressed to a 60 fags a day habit so much so that he never had the lungs for cycling or any other physical activity...suffice to say he's now currently in his 80's & still alive...why didnt he not take the tram?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Well iv smoked for 40 yrs done a 5k run and doing a 10k 1 in 10 days and fit as a fiddle

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By *illow PimpMan
over a year ago

Midlothian


"why didnt he not take the tram?"

He was eco friendly liked to watch his carbon footprint, tree hugger kind of guy which is quite apt because that was where he ended up wrapped round a tree

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By *akedninja OP   Man
over a year ago

edinburgh


"Everyone dies at some point if your times up its up "
yea we all must die some day but speaking strictly for myself here I like living & id rather die later than sooner & possibly avoid an agonising & soul destroying death via cancer & I believe I have am obligation to my friends & family & fellow man not to expose them to any unnecessary suffering also the economy is bad enough as it is without me burdening the NHS for costly treatments on account of my self indulgence... But I suppose im not that much apposed to people having a relaxed approach to shortening their existence on this mortal coil as we have to tackle the ever more serious issue of overpopulation...the government should make smoking compulsory in nurseries & give out free days to kids of parents who cant afford to buy them for their kids...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Well my mother and grandmother both lived well into their 80s so I reckon its looking gd for me

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By *akedninja OP   Man
over a year ago

edinburgh


"gave up 3 n half years ago on patches

an will power"

good on ya mate keep it up! I used to smoke & I look back on it & wonder why the hell I ever did in the first place...I guess it was just because everyone else was doing it for social acceptance or something ...but then again I was always a rebel & one for breaking the rules & not conforming to thw norm so when I realise that everyone was smoking it was reason enough for me to stop..it was only later I was thankful I did as I discovered the true nature of its nefarious impact on the health of a great number of people I've lost as a direct result of smoking poor buggers....that couldve been me!

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By *akedninja OP   Man
over a year ago

edinburgh


"why didnt he not take the tram?

He was eco friendly liked to watch his carbon footprint, tree hugger kind of guy which is quite apt because that was where he ended up wrapped round a tree "

oh dear ..poor fella...also perhaps it was coz trams weren't invented in Edinburgh yet & are not likely to be for another 100 year's & another 100 billion pounds!

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By *illow PimpMan
over a year ago

Midlothian


"perhaps it was coz trams weren't invented in Edinburgh yet & are not likely to be for another 100 year's & another 100 billion pounds!"

Trams were in Edinburgh when you were just a sparkle in yir dads aye lol

but yeah good point

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By *akedninja OP   Man
over a year ago

edinburgh


"Well iv smoked for 40 yrs done a 5k run and doing a 10k 1 in 10 days and fit as a fiddle "
good on ya....I've never smoked for years & it takes me to get up out of my bed! Lol proud of ya! Your a living inspiration! you should get your favourite brand of fags to sponsor you or at least give you shares for being such a loyal company...im gonna start growing tobacco (again) and set up my own brand of fags for £10 a packet....place yours orders here everyone!

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By *akedninja OP   Man
over a year ago

edinburgh


"perhaps it was coz trams weren't invented in Edinburgh yet & are not likely to be for another 100 year's & another 100 billion pounds!

Trams were in Edinburgh when you were just a sparkle in yir dads aye lol

but yeah good point "

aye they were around 100 years ago but you wouldnt think that with all this carry on to get things right lol

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By *rStarbuckMan
over a year ago

Edinburgh


"....so why do we still do it?"

I used to. Got bored of it and stopped lol

Lx

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By *akedninja OP   Man
over a year ago

edinburgh


"Well my mother and grandmother both lived well into their 80s so I reckon its looking gd for me "
fingers crossed! It must be your genes to be resistant to any I'll effects of smoking... Alot of my family have lived well into their 90's some even over 100! Well the ones who were lucky enough not to die from a number of other things that is lol apparently eating chillis is good for the heart (but not your rectum)...a fact that's recently been confirmed medically

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By *akedninja OP   Man
over a year ago

edinburgh


"....so why do we still do it?

I used to. Got bored of it and stopped lol

Lx"

well done! Think of all the money you could save towards more tattoos hehe x

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By *akedninja OP   Man
over a year ago

edinburgh


"....so why do we still do it?

But I still ya. Lol!

"

aww at least someone does!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Well they both smoked tae so it must be in the genes

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By *rStarbuckMan
over a year ago

Edinburgh

Lol it was a long time ago. And dont get me started on tattoos!!

Lx

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By *ndykayMan
over a year ago

Falkirk

Have never smoked - it never appealed to me but if someone else does it doesn't bother me.

But I'd rather slide into hell at the end of my life an have satan look at me and say 'wow! What a ride you've had!' than stroll into heaven in a t jacket - so live life to the max! (If you can lol )

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"....so why do we still do it?

But I still ya. Lol!

aww at least someone does!"

Well someone got to love you're insessant questioning mind - may as well be me. Lol!

Still me? Pmsl.

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By *andACouple
over a year ago

glasgow

Smoked when I was younger. Gave it up when a guy I was into said he wouldn't go out with someone who smoked.

Best thing I've ever done.

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By *he Enigmatic MagnetMan
over a year ago

Glasgow West

Some of us don't, never have, and never will.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

i dont and havent for 3 months now

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By *nTCouple
over a year ago

funland

everything you enjoy in this world is bad for you,

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I don't, never have. No bad habits at all lies! You were chain smoking along with a list of other bad habits the last party we had lol"

The smoking bit is lies lol!! The rest?......emmmmm, well maybe

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

stopped for 5 yrs then lady i was with at a social says....ochhh just have one...back on em...socials bad for yer health see..lol

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By *akedninja OP   Man
over a year ago

edinburgh


"Lol it was a long time ago. And dont get me started on tattoos!!

Lx"

lol dont get me started on tattoos else I'll end up covering you in them lol

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By *akedninja OP   Man
over a year ago

edinburgh


"Have never smoked - it never appealed to me but if someone else does it doesn't bother me.

But I'd rather slide into hell at the end of my life an have satan look at me and say 'wow! What a ride you've had!' than stroll into heaven in a t jacket - so live life to the max! (If you can lol ) "

id rather ride into hell with my Michael Jackson red leather zipper jacket on my Harley Davidson & kick Satan in the nuts & tell him "keep the change ya filthy animal" then burn rubber all the way to heaven to see what goody two shoes are awaiting me there haha

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By *riendly foeWoman
over a year ago

In a crisp poke on the A814


"....so why do we still do it?"

Because some of us enjoy it....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I honestly don't mind smokers my mum is one so kinda used to it. As she says chocolate is bad for us but we like it so she likes smoking why should she give it up lol x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I agree with you foe

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I can tell you WHY I started. I always looked really younger than my years, so my thinking was I might appear older if I smoked. Some of it was peer pressure as other friends smoked. Some possibly because my Mother smoked & was used to it around me. It was also a different era. Despite being an anti-smoker myself the choice was mine, no-one else's.

I still think I don't look my age so think how I would've looked if I hadn't experimented with all the things that supposedly age me, are bad for my health, will shorten it etc.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Started smoking when I was 15 till bout 4 years ago gave it up cold turkey and started running and lost 3 stone. However the missuss still smokes. And when on holiday I have 1 cigarette at nite just before bed usually on the balcony. And then stop again the last nite and dont smoke again till next holiday

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By *akedninja OP   Man
over a year ago

edinburgh


"stopped for 5 yrs then lady i was with at a social says....ochhh just have one...back on em...socials bad for yer health see..lol"
aye your not joking!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I enjoy smoking especially if I've had a drink

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Non smoker here but got the fetish! Absolutely love the look of a lady smoking, the smell of it and everything, only when im turned on though....

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By *akedninja OP   Man
over a year ago

edinburgh


"I enjoy smoking especially if I've had a drink "
sounds like alot of people I know do you ever consider the potential I'll effects of it or is it just a case of "I'll cross rhat bride when I get to it?"

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By *akedninja OP   Man
over a year ago

edinburgh


"....so why do we still do it?

Because some of us enjoy it...."

I wonder how many people enjoy cancer?

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By *akedninja OP   Man
over a year ago

edinburgh


"I honestly don't mind smokers my mum is one so kinda used to it. As she says chocolate is bad for us but we like it so she likes smoking why should she give it up lol x "
chocolate is actually good for you in moderation...smoking isn't good for you in any measure ...and no one says she has to stop...my question is what is the motivation people generally employ to justify running the gauntlet to I'll health & unnecessary suffering.... this is of course my personal opinion based apon my unfortunate extensive experience with having lost a numerable amount of people to smoking related illnesses...im less able to bury my head in the sand & justify it to myself than others seemingly

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By *akedninja OP   Man
over a year ago

edinburgh


"Non smoker here but got the fetish! Absolutely love the look of a lady smoking, the smell of it and everything, only when im turned on though.... "
lol I love women smoking on my brown cigar...that's where I draw the line

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By *akedninja OP   Man
over a year ago

edinburgh

Well at least your honest,cigarette companies have played a big part in making smoking look cool in the media/movies so as to sell more product..people think im weird coz I don't smoke & I dont want to look 60 when im 40 with more lines on my face than a road ordinance map
"I can tell you WHY I started. I always looked really younger than my years, so my thinking was I might appear older if I smoked. Some of it was peer pressure as other friends smoked. Some possibly because my Mother smoked & was used to it around me. It was also a different era. Despite being an anti-smoker myself the choice was mine, no-one else's.

I still think I don't look my age so think how I would've looked if I hadn't experimented with all the things that supposedly age me, are bad for my health, will shorten it etc.

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By *akedninja OP   Man
over a year ago

edinburgh

Good man! Live long & prosper & may the force be with us to inspire others
"Started smoking when I was 15 till bout 4 years ago gave it up cold turkey and started running and lost 3 stone. However the missuss still smokes. And when on holiday I have 1 cigarette at nite just before bed usually on the balcony. And then stop again the last nite and dont smoke again till next holiday "

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By *akedninja OP   Man
over a year ago

edinburgh


"everything you enjoy in this world is bad for you, "
erm I beg to differ...exercise & eating healthy isn't bad for ya

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Have never smoked - it never appealed to me but if someone else does it doesn't bother me.

But I'd rather slide into hell at the end of my life an have satan look at me and say 'wow! What a ride you've had!' than stroll into heaven in a t jacket - so live life to the max! (If you can lol ) id rather ride into hell with my Michael Jackson red leather zipper jacket on my Harley Davidson & kick Satan in the nuts & tell him "keep the change ya filthy animal" then burn rubber all the way to heaven to see what goody two shoes are awaiting me there haha"

Only cos you won't know anyone there ya filthy bugger. Lol

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By *akedninja OP   Man
over a year ago

edinburgh

Hahahahahaha that's what you think...j.c is my homie & I've plucked the feather of a few Angels in my time as a hellraiser
"Have never smoked - it never appealed to me but if someone else does it doesn't bother me.

But I'd rather slide into hell at the end of my life an have satan look at me and say 'wow! What a ride you've had!' than stroll into heaven in a t jacket - so live life to the max! (If you can lol ) id rather ride into hell with my Michael Jackson red leather zipper jacket on my Harley Davidson & kick Satan in the nuts & tell him "keep the change ya filthy animal" then burn rubber all the way to heaven to see what goody two shoes are awaiting me there haha

Only cos you won't know anyone there ya filthy bugger. Lol"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Well if I get another 25yrs living the way I do I will be happy

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"everything you enjoy in this world is bad for you, "

Well possibly if its over indulged in.

I met a young lad in hospital who was only 25, ex RAF & ex Rugby player when I was having my first ever stay (in my mid 40s). He had lung cancer yer never smoked, exercised regularly, are healthily but lung cancer ran in his family - so he had a lung removed. I hada collapsed lung from catching a d*unk woman. I was do shocked. (I also have up smoking for 6 months but refretay started again & was yet again addicted(.

Another friend who plays football regularly, cycles etc has had more trouble with cartilage problems, swollen joints etc than I've ever had health issues. Likewise his (now) 21 yo son who played football had to have a knee operation with similar issues.

I will probably add more cases as I read further posts, but my main point is that no-one is immune from cancer, or any other health issue. Despite the reduction in smokers cancer ceases have actually risen. So what's the other links that cause cancers? Mobile phones, more traffic on the roads, modern living?

Ok I've wandered off from what Ninj asked - why do we keep smoking. Less people are smoking, tho ironically young smokers have slightly increased, but the overall figure is coming down. Why do folk smoke - well simply... It is one of the most addictive substances. However where smokers were once a substantial majority they are increasingly a minority (& a great income revenue for Govts to hammer until they no longer can. At which point they'll move onto the obese folk etc. Yet if there are few jobs that will have sufficient pensions & few youngsters even thinking about pensions then they in turn will become a sort of lower class dependent on benefits or working till they drop.)

So until I become a non smoker again (which no doubt I will when I can't afford it or don't wish to) then all I ask us a little place I can go & enjoy my vice in private or with others who wish to partake in the same vice.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"everything you enjoy in this world is bad for you, erm I beg to differ...exercise & eating healthy isn't bad for ya"

There's exceptions to that rule too. Some folk can never smoke, drink etc & still drop at a relatively early age. Some clients I have are well into their 80s & smoke with few health issues other than the usual hip replacements due to falls.

Yet others I know can be addicted to keeping fit & suffer all sorts of health issues. This was particularly noted with the last company I worked for where the sick days amongst the younger members were so through the roof they withdrew sick pay (despite the fact the older workers actually had less days off). So what makes the younger generation so ill?

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By *andACouple
over a year ago

glasgow

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By *andACouple
over a year ago

glasgow

Everyone can point to people who live healthy lives and have health problems and the people who live unhealthy lives and do just fine.

If you take a large sample size then it is clear that living an unhealthy lifestyle is more likely to result in health problems. Most of the things that are 'bad' for us can be done in moderation and still be okay (alcohol, fatty foods etc) but that's not the case with smoking.

It's responsible for over 80% of lung cancer cases, the majority of bladder cancers and oral cancer. It also increases the risk of various other forms of cancer.

People can make their choices in life as to how they want to live and there's nothing wrong with that but let's not down play the risks associated with some of these choices.

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By *akedninja OP   Man
over a year ago

edinburgh


"Well if I get another 25yrs living the way I do I will be happy "
fingers crossed! I know I'll live forever as the good die young! Lol

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By *akedninja OP   Man
over a year ago

edinburgh

There are many factors that lead to cancer...genetics,over exposure to the sun...exposure to cancer causing chemicals or radiation & now "radon" which is a naturally occurring gas that's prevalent in Edinburgh apparently.. Also owns lifestyle choices as in lack of exercise & bad diet consisting of processed foods...down to exposure to plastic & fabrics containing harmful substances..even toilet paper!...living next to a nuclear power station doesn't help either...so just simply not smoking doesn't guarantee that your immune from cancer... Then again there is even the risk of passive smoking...im not sure where you got yiur figures about there being a decrease in smoking as from my perspective more people than ever are smoking these days...8 out of 10 people I know smoke...& I know alot of people
"everything you enjoy in this world is bad for you,

Well possibly if its over indulged in.

I met a young lad in hospital who was only 25, ex RAF & ex Rugby player when I was having my first ever stay (in my mid 40s). He had lung cancer yer never smoked, exercised regularly, are healthily but lung cancer ran in his family - so he had a lung removed. I hada collapsed lung from catching a d*unk woman. I was do shocked. (I also have up smoking for 6 months but refretay started again & was yet again addicted(.

Another friend who plays football regularly, cycles etc has had more trouble with cartilage problems, swollen joints etc than I've ever had health issues. Likewise his (now) 21 yo son who played football had to have a knee operation with similar issues.

I will probably add more cases as I read further posts, but my main point is that no-one is immune from cancer, or any other health issue. Despite the reduction in smokers cancer ceases have actually risen. So what's the other links that cause cancers? Mobile phones, more traffic on the roads, modern living?

Ok I've wandered off from what Ninj asked - why do we keep smoking. Less people are smoking, tho ironically young smokers have slightly increased, but the overall figure is coming down. Why do folk smoke - well simply... It is one of the most addictive substances. However where smokers were once a substantial majority they are increasingly a minority (& a great income revenue for Govts to hammer until they no longer can. At which point they'll move onto the obese folk etc. Yet if there are few jobs that will have sufficient pensions & few youngsters even thinking about pensions then they in turn will become a sort of lower class dependent on benefits or working till they drop.)

So until I become a non smoker again (which no doubt I will when I can't afford it or don't wish to) then all I ask us a little place I can go & enjoy my vice in private or with others who wish to partake in the same vice. "

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By *akedninja OP   Man
over a year ago

edinburgh

The younger generation are more substance dependent & generally have a weaker outlook about their lot in life so all the more reason to throw caution to the wind & endeavour to shorten their lifespan...folk from the oldskool are hardcore ..take a bullet on the way to work & still make it in on Time I know a young lady who had a lil sunburn & took a week off work!!! I've never taken a day off of work in my life!
"everything you enjoy in this world is bad for you, erm I beg to differ...exercise & eating healthy isn't bad for ya

There's exceptions to that rule too. Some folk can never smoke, drink etc & still drop at a relatively early age. Some clients I have are well into their 80s & smoke with few health issues other than the usual hip replacements due to falls.

Yet others I know can be addicted to keeping fit & suffer all sorts of health issues. This was particularly noted with the last company I worked for where the sick days amongst the younger members were so through the roof they withdrew sick pay (despite the fact the older workers actually had less days off). So what makes the younger generation so ill? "

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By *akedninja OP   Man
over a year ago

edinburgh

Well said...the most important thing is to educate people of the consequences & allow them to make an educated choice...too many youngsters are far more swayed with the social acceptance of looking cool than the undermined negative side effects which alot of folk dont tend to take seriously unroll they're hit with the loss of someone in their lives as a result of smoking or they themselves are hit with some of those negative side effects...a friend of mines recently almost died from collapsed lungs brought on by smoking & he had rhe fright of his life when they had to cut him open to reinflate his lungs...needless ro say he hasn't stopped smoking & he has since had. 2 trips back to the hospital in an ambulanec and he's only in his late 20's...some folk will never learn e
"Everyone can point to people who live healthy lives and have health problems and the people who live unhealthy lives and do just fine.

If you take a large sample size then it is clear that living an unhealthy lifestyle is more likely to result in health problems. Most of the things that are 'bad' for us can be done in moderation and still be okay (alcohol, fatty foods etc) but that's not the case with smoking.

It's responsible for over 80% of lung cancer cases, the majority of bladder cancers and oral cancer. It also increases the risk of various other forms of cancer.

People can make their choices in life as to how they want to live and there's nothing wrong with that but let's not down play the risks associated with some of these choices."

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


" Most of the things that are 'bad' for us can be done in moderation and still be okay (alcohol, fatty foods etc) but that's not the case with smoking.."

Linz, PLEASE don't take this the wrong way...

So you can't be a social smoker (eg: only when you drink, only after a meal, only out with friends, 5 a day & NOT get some form of repercussion? Of course everything in moderation is a better policy/life choice than over indulging/doing it often but that's the same for EVERYTHING in life from crossing the road, to speeding, to eating McDonalds, to shagging.

As a compete convert to anti smoking when I did give up I really do understand why non-smokers shy away from smokers. It STINKS BigTime. I'm not even saying that it WON'T increase health problems (trust me, coming from a family of smokers I really do KNOW the downside. First hand, I certainly wish my Mother AND my Grandfather had made other choices of addiction but they didn't. Whatever their justification I understand it. I dealt with it in the best way I could by nursing then - NOT the the non-smokers.

Now no matter what an older generation tell the next generation they mostly ignore it & learn by their own mistakes.

So my point, is if people want to isolate themselves by smoking, or sit on the Net when they are out in social company, eat McDonalds, not exercise (which I don't & still lookFABULOUS. Sorry, just lightening the tone), or drive a 4x4, or lift another poly bag at Tesco's just to throw in the bin, ignore the wars in the world, or whatever that's a choice. It may not be a WISE choice but it is a choice. Or in this case it's an addiction that started off as a choice albeit a poor one. I don't think you'll meet a smoker that doesn't feel even slightly ostracised or know the health risks. Still we all crave our addiction.

However all that said, the OP asked why we still do it - the only answer is it is one of THE most addictive substances known to man. That simple.

Again, apologies if this is taken personally or sounds like a rant. It's not. It's simply a fact that even most smokers wish wasn't.

Smokers smoke because its addictive. That simple.

Anyway back to the music, the sun, a drink in the hot sun & a ciggie.

Hope yer enjoying the sun people.

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By *akedninja OP   Man
over a year ago

edinburgh

Smokers are descended from lemmings...rather than jumping off a cliff they take the slower route of a slower suicide non smokers are descendants of asthmatic tadpoles who couldnt smoke under water anyways even if they wanted to look cool like the lemmings
" Most of the things that are 'bad' for us can be done in moderation and still be okay (alcohol, fatty foods etc) but that's not the case with smoking..

Linz, PLEASE don't take this the wrong way...

So you can't be a social smoker (eg: only when you drink, only after a meal, only out with friends, 5 a day & NOT get some form of repercussion? Of course everything in moderation is a better policy/life choice than over indulging/doing it often but that's the same for EVERYTHING in life from crossing the road, to speeding, to eating McDonalds, to shagging.

As a compete convert to anti smoking when I did give up I really do understand why non-smokers shy away from smokers. It STINKS BigTime. I'm not even saying that it WON'T increase health problems (trust me, coming from a family of smokers I really do KNOW the downside. First hand, I certainly wish my Mother AND my Grandfather had made other choices of addiction but they didn't. Whatever their justification I understand it. I dealt with it in the best way I could by nursing then - NOT the the non-smokers.

Now no matter what an older generation tell the next generation they mostly ignore it & learn by their own mistakes.

So my point, is if people want to isolate themselves by smoking, or sit on the Net when they are out in social company, eat McDonalds, not exercise (which I don't & still lookFABULOUS. Sorry, just lightening the tone), or drive a 4x4, or lift another poly bag at Tesco's just to throw in the bin, ignore the wars in the world, or whatever that's a choice. It may not be a WISE choice but it is a choice. Or in this case it's an addiction that started off as a choice albeit a poor one. I don't think you'll meet a smoker that doesn't feel even slightly ostracised or know the health risks. Still we all crave our addiction.

However all that said, the OP asked why we still do it - the only answer is it is one of THE most addictive substances known to man. That simple.

Again, apologies if this is taken personally or sounds like a rant. It's not. It's simply a fact that even most smokers wish wasn't.

Smokers smoke because its addictive. That simple.

Anyway back to the music, the sun, a drink in the hot sun & a ciggie.

Hope yer enjoying the sun people.

"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Well you can argue all you want but I will carry on smoking drinking eating crap and having sex basically enjoying my life till my times up then bow out

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Well you can argue all you want but I will carry on smoking drinking eating crap and having sex basically enjoying my life till my times up then bow out "

Disgracefully?

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By *andACouple
over a year ago

glasgow


" Most of the things that are 'bad' for us can be done in moderation and still be okay (alcohol, fatty foods etc) but that's not the case with smoking..

Linz, PLEASE don't take this the wrong way...

So you can't be a social smoker (eg: only when you drink, only after a meal, only out with friends, 5 a day & NOT get some form of repercussion? Of course everything in moderation is a better policy/life choice than over indulging/doing it often but that's the same for EVERYTHING in life from crossing the road, to speeding, to eating McDonalds, to shagging.

As a compete convert to anti smoking when I did give up I really do understand why non-smokers shy away from smokers. It STINKS BigTime. I'm not even saying that it WON'T increase health problems (trust me, coming from a family of smokers I really do KNOW the downside. First hand, I certainly wish my Mother AND my Grandfather had made other choices of addiction but they didn't. Whatever their justification I understand it. I dealt with it in the best way I could by nursing then - NOT the the non-smokers.

Now no matter what an older generation tell the next generation they mostly ignore it & learn by their own mistakes.

So my point, is if people want to isolate themselves by smoking, or sit on the Net when they are out in social company, eat McDonalds, not exercise (which I don't & still lookFABULOUS. Sorry, just lightening the tone), or drive a 4x4, or lift another poly bag at Tesco's just to throw in the bin, ignore the wars in the world, or whatever that's a choice. It may not be a WISE choice but it is a choice. Or in this case it's an addiction that started off as a choice albeit a poor one. I don't think you'll meet a smoker that doesn't feel even slightly ostracised or know the health risks. Still we all crave our addiction.

However all that said, the OP asked why we still do it - the only answer is it is one of THE most addictive substances known to man. That simple.

Again, apologies if this is taken personally or sounds like a rant. It's not. It's simply a fact that even most smokers wish wasn't.

Smokers smoke because its addictive. That simple.

Anyway back to the music, the sun, a drink in the hot sun & a ciggie.

Hope yer enjoying the sun people.

"

Smoking is obviously very addictive and smokers have my sympathy for that. I'm not beating down on them for smoking. My post was just a response to your earlier one about healthy people falling ill etc and some smokers doing fine etc. I'm just giving out some figures that show that anecdotal evidence frequently doesn't show the true facts.

* Disclaimer the word 'true' doesn't imply you are lying. It's just the most appropriate term to use when discussing the bigger picture and I couldn't think of another one.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Oh yeh I'd like to die with a drink in 1 hand a fag in the other and a man between my legs perfect

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

By DISGRACEFUL I mean wearing the Cel'ic tap?

Pmsl

ya Lass xxx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Now there's an idea I could wear my celtic top at the same time haha

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By *akedninja OP   Man
over a year ago

edinburgh

Smoking causes impotence in men & leatherface syndrome in women

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Smoking causes impotence in men & leatherface syndrome in women"

Show me yer buns & I'll show ya impotence.lmao.

Didn't think so. Meh, next 23 yo please.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Smoking causes impotence in men & leatherface syndrome in women"

Leatherface,,,that'll be the dehydration from smoking?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Now there's an idea I could wear my celtic top at the same time haha "

You KEEP wearing it Lass. As long as you choose.

Btw - Mon the Gers! See ya in a few years hon. xxx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Smoking causes impotence in men & leatherface syndrome in women

Leatherface,,,that'll be the dehydration from smoking?"

Kiss my carbon emissions.

Lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Well iv been told I look younger than my age so personally I think its crap

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By *akedninja OP   Man
over a year ago

edinburgh


"Smoking causes impotence in men & leatherface syndrome in women

Leatherface,,,that'll be the dehydration from smoking?"

hahahahahahahahhahahaha

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Smoking causes impotence in men & leatherface syndrome in women

Leatherface,,,that'll be the dehydration from smoking?"

Waters the saucy secret i think,,if drinking booze try drinking water too they tell us, coffee, try drinking water too, smoking, water it down too?

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By *akedninja OP   Man
over a year ago

edinburgh


"Well iv been told I look younger than my age so personally I think its crap "
you think it's carp that people tell you that you look younger than your age? Lol aww

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

My ex was a smoker and fathered 10 children no impotency there

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By *akedninja OP   Man
over a year ago

edinburgh


"My ex was a smoker and fathered 10 children no impotency there "
are all the 10 children smokers also? do you secretly work for the tobacco companies? Sent here to infiltrate fab & promote smoking to the swinger community who aren't already addicted?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Haha only 2 of them smoke and no I don't work for the tobacco companies I just believe in letting people live their lives the way it works for them btw I don't work fo junk food alcahol or condom companys either

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By *akedninja OP   Man
over a year ago

edinburgh


"Haha only 2 of them smoke and no I don't work for the tobacco companies I just believe in letting people live their lives the way it works for them btw I don't work fo junk food alcahol or condom companys either "
do you mean to insinuate that I don't believe in letting people live their lives? Despite the fact I've already stated otherwise...incidentally the tobacco & junk food corporations dont believe in just letting people live their lives unfortunately...which is why us that do should team up & fight them & undermine their plan to rob us of that option

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By *riendly foeWoman
over a year ago

In a crisp poke on the A814


"incidentally the tobacco & junk food corporations dont believe in just letting people live their lives unfortunately..."

Really??

Never seen any slogan stating we MUST do something we dont want to do

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By *akedninja OP   Man
over a year ago

edinburgh


"Oh yeh I'd like to die with a drink in 1 hand a fag in the other and a man between my legs perfect "
thats the leading cause of house fires...people falling asleep/dying with a fag in their hand

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By *riendly foeWoman
over a year ago

In a crisp poke on the A814

Edinlass....Take no notice of the smoking police

Another great killer is people falling off their soapboxes and breaking their necks

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Thanx foe and ninja a house fire won't bother me if I'm dead

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By *akedninja OP   Man
over a year ago

edinburgh


"Edinlass....Take no notice of the smoking police

Another great killer is people falling off their soapboxes and breaking their necks "

another great killer is people not looking before Thayer leap

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By *riendly foeWoman
over a year ago

In a crisp poke on the A814


"another great killer is people not looking before Thayer leap"

Im scared of heights....I ALWAYS look before I leap

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By *akedninja OP   Man
over a year ago

edinburgh


"Thanx foe and ninja a house fire won't bother me if I'm dead "
aye it might bother ya if you've been knocked back from heaven & hell & wake up thinking that you've dodged that bullet only to find a housefull of flames...I think your house being on fire might bother the poor fella who's been engrossed between your legs munching on your lifeless genitals...or possibly even your neighbors or the fireman who've had to abandon watching re-runs of "heartbeat" on sky gold to come rescue your zombie ass

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Well I know I'm not getting knocked bk from hell cos I'm going down there to carry on partying

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By *akedninja OP   Man
over a year ago

edinburgh


"another great killer is people not looking before Thayer leap

Im scared of heights....I ALWAYS look before I leap "

ya clearly didn't if ya mistook the gist of this post to be one of discouraging my fellow man to shorten their existence so that I might have a better shot at getting a decent pension if any at all if I live long enough to dodge the increases in retiring ages lol

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By *akedninja OP   Man
over a year ago

edinburgh


"Well I know I'm not getting knocked bk from hell cos I'm going down there to carry on partying "
im gatecrashing heaven & corrupting the hell out of the goody two shoes there gonna raise a lil hell in heaven & make Satan proud

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By *riendly foeWoman
over a year ago

In a crisp poke on the A814


"another great killer is people not looking before Thayer leap

Im scared of heights....I ALWAYS look before I leap ya clearly didn't if ya mistook the gist of this post to be one of discouraging my fellow man to shorten their existence so that I might have a better shot at getting a decent pension if any at all if I live long enough to dodge the increases in retiring ages lol"

And what makes you believe you are going to live longer?

On your soapbox again....careful you dont slip

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Oh yeh I'd like to die with a drink in 1 hand a fag in the other and a man between my legs perfect thats the leading cause of house fires...people falling asleep/dying with a fag in their hand"

Err can I just point out that cigarettes now go OUT if they are left to burn for a certain amount if time. This was made mandatory in order to stop house fires. The biggest cause of house fires is caused by d*unk or forgetful people & faulty wiring.

The biggest cause of fires is probably caused by wee arseholes setting fire to stuff they shouldn't.

Kidding people. Just lightening the tone again.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"another great killer is people not looking before Thayer leap

Im scared of heights....I ALWAYS look before I leap ya clearly didn't if ya mistook the gist of this post to be one of discouraging my fellow man to shorten their existence so that I might have a better shot at getting a decent pension if any at all if I live long enough to dodge the increases in retiring ages lol"

You won't. Your ass is toast on the retirement thing. Us oldies JUST might make it tho

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By *riendly foeWoman
over a year ago

In a crisp poke on the A814


"

You won't. Your ass is toast on the retirement thing. Us oldies JUST might make it tho "

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

And incidentally. In case I forget to say later... I had a great time.

Julia Roberts - Pretty Woman.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I will make it iv only got 9yrs to go woohoo

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

DAMMIT - my fag went out!

Lol

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By *riendly foeWoman
over a year ago

In a crisp poke on the A814

LOL...........

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By *akedninja OP   Man
over a year ago

edinburgh

Well.simply because I've tried to shorten my existence in all manner of ways & they keep sending me back telling me that I need to get up on my soapbox & sell soap to soapdodgers coz theyre all coming down to hell & reeking the place out & theres enough flies as it is there...ya cant even open your mouth for fear of swallowing a 100 of the buggers before you could say supercalifragilisticespialidocious!
"another great killer is people not looking before Thayer leap

Im scared of heights....I ALWAYS look before I leap ya clearly didn't if ya mistook the gist of this post to be one of discouraging my fellow man to shorten their existence so that I might have a better shot at getting a decent pension if any at all if I live long enough to dodge the increases in retiring ages lol

And what makes you believe you are going to live longer?

On your soapbox again....careful you dont slip "

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By *mumaWoman
over a year ago

Livingston


"DAMMIT - my fag went out!

Lol"

where's he gone?

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By *riendly foeWoman
over a year ago

In a crisp poke on the A814

Oh im so very hurt and upset you used the word soapdodger...........

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By *mumaWoman
over a year ago

Livingston


"Oh im so very hurt and upset you used the word soapdodger........... "

Most soapdodgers live in Leith Foe, so you're ok

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"DAMMIT - my fag went out!

Lol

where's he gone? "

Night out. Pmsl.

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By *riendly foeWoman
over a year ago

In a crisp poke on the A814


"Oh im so very hurt and upset you used the word soapdodger...........

Most soapdodgers live in Leith Foe, so you're ok "

Is it ok for me to stop crying now then?

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By *akedninja OP   Man
over a year ago

edinburgh


"Oh im so very hurt and upset you used the word soapdodger...........

Most soapdodgers live in Leith Foe, so you're ok

Is it ok for me to stop crying now then? "

just apply soap to your tears until you have a lather & wash off afterwards with more tears for a clean & refreshing feeling

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By *aucy3Couple
over a year ago

glasgow

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By *aucy3Couple
over a year ago

glasgow


"....so why do we still do it?"

it's the motion,it's the nicotine,it's the tar,it's all those other chemicals,they give for free.

it's the general disapproval,it's the one with a drink,it's the new friends you meet whilst outside for a smoke,it's the first drag in the morning,it's the one before bed,and it's always your choice.

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By *illow PimpMan
over a year ago

Midlothian


"....so why do we still do it?

it's the motion,it's the nicotine,it's the tar,it's all those other chemicals,they give for free.

it's the general disapproval,it's the one with a drink,it's the new friends you meet whilst outside for a smoke,it's the first drag in the morning,it's the one before bed,and it's always your choice."

The one after the gym is the best lol

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