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By *akedninja OP   Man
over a year ago

edinburgh

Just witnessed a member of the general public go toe to toe with 6+ police officers after coming to the aid of disabled addict who had just been manhandled,for his efforts this concerned member of the public was taken to the ground and had his head slammed deliberately & forcefully on the pavement where he lay pinned by 6 officers for 10 minutes while they awaited more back up which consisted of 3 cars and 2 vans....what's the world coming too?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Sounds to me like a bit of a one sided story

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By *riendly foeWoman
over a year ago

In a crisp poke on the A814

Its a sad day when police cant do their job without some "concerned" member of public feeling the need to get involved...

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By *riendly foeWoman
over a year ago

In a crisp poke on the A814


"Sounds to me like a bit of a one sided story"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I know some people on here who would love jumped by six uniformed policemen!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I know some people on here who would love jumped by six uniformed policemen!! "
that's what I'd love

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By *akedninja OP   Man
over a year ago

edinburgh


"Sounds to me like a bit of a one sided story"
one sided? Do you mean to imply that im anti-police? Lol I only stated my observations considering I work in a professional capacity with the general public & with the police whereby I've trained police,I wish I had recorded the incident so that people wouldnt be quick to make the negative assumption of what was witnessed by many as to be an excessive use of force and manpower...I left out the part where a heavily pregnant woman was pushed in the process by one of the officers,the police are there to provide a service to the general public and without them it would be chaos but wearing a uniform doesn't give you a free license to take liberties with the public ..granted the fella shouldn't have gotten involved as no one else did,but where do you draw the line? 3 police cars,2 police vans,12 officers to arrest 1 man whilst blocking a busy public road for in excess of 20 minutes...im rather impartial to the events of the incident but it's interesting to consider the implications of my observations,all that glitters is not gold im all for peace and unity and everyone living together as one...however idealistic that may sound,I don't favour violence or authority im sorry to say as I've seen an ample misuse of it in my life...where is the love people? That's all im saying

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By *akedninja OP   Man
over a year ago

edinburgh


"I know some people on here who would love jumped by six uniformed policemen!! "
lol id let 6 pretty petite policewomen arrest me anyway lol

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By *akedninja OP   Man
over a year ago

edinburgh


"Sounds to me like a bit of a one sided story

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was waiting for you to put in your tupence lol

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By *oftfocusMan
over a year ago

EDINBURGH


"Just witnessed a member of the general public go toe to toe with 6+ police officers after coming to the aid of disabled addict who had just been manhandled,for his efforts this concerned member of the public was taken to the ground and had his head slammed deliberately & forcefully on the pavement where he lay pinned by 6 officers for 10 minutes while they awaited more back up which consisted of 3 cars and 2 vans....what's the world coming too?"

You should report it asap

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Uniforms breed arrogance not intelligence. That's not to say all are the same and a couple of my best friends are coppers and there tits lol

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By *ictiiWitchCouple
over a year ago

Helensburgh

It is sad that it's come to this, especially since we need more police doing better work, but it hasn't just popped up from nowhere.

Labour began initiating a big brother state quite a while ago, more powers to the police, dna tagging for kids, identity cards, CCTV everywhere, but the hidden side was the removal of what they thought were certain barriers to justice.

The powers they gave the police were in my opinion a good thing, but as my other half points out, it is never a good thing to take away someones human rights, even if you do suspect them of carrying drugs/knives etc. As Martin Niemöller said :

First they came for the communists,

and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a communist.

Then they came for the socialists,

and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a socialist.

Then they came for the trade unionists,

and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a trade unionist.

Then they came for the Jews,

and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a Jew.

Then they came for the Catholics,

and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a Catholic.

Then they came for me,

and there was no one left to speak for me.

I'm trying to get a few points across, but the one that bugs me is that they gave the police these powers, but tied them up in so much red tape and procedure that it's laughable. What you had there is a possible violent situation with multiple suspects. Thats all that would have been said, then the procedure book will have told them to send out all those people, otherwise they might get sued for negligence and not following proper procedure. The head banging is just a nasty arse cop who needs his arse kicked by a superior. He wont get away with it for long.

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By *ictiiWitchCouple
over a year ago

Helensburgh

sorry, long ass post again

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By *akedninja OP   Man
over a year ago

edinburgh


"sorry, long ass post again "
thanks for taking the time to post such a indepth and insightful response,I think the police are somewhat vital to keep order but not when they act with immunity...I think the situation today saw one or two of them under pressure and for whatever reason they chose to elevate rather than pacify the situation which wasn't a good look seeing as there were so many people watching,it certainly doesn't instill in the public a trust in the police force when such compulsive acts of violence are openly perpetrated in the presence of a great number of their colleagues ...I would say it instills fear in the public...I've lived in 3rd world countries where I've seen a rampant abuse of the uniform which has lead to unbelievable corruption the likes of which I wouldnt dare speak of here,what it leads to is more violent criminals and vigilantism...it's a vicious cycle...violence is a very very last resort not a first resort,had I not seen a disabled addict manhandled unnecessarily,a heavily pregnant woman pushed and 12 police physically lift a cuffed and prone suspect and literally toss him head first into the van...well if I hadn't seen any of the above then I wouldnt have been moved to share my concerns on here...but like I said where do we draw the line,it's a crime in itself when we stand by and allow for such things to happen to others as we're next in line if we don't do something

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By *akedninja OP   Man
over a year ago

edinburgh


"Uniforms breed arrogance not intelligence. That's not to say all are the same and a couple of my best friends are coppers and there tits lol "
I have alot of friends/colleagues in the police....what was told to me by a high ranking police officer.... Ex crims make good cops and ex cops make good crims....never a truer word was spoken,and this coming from a 20+ year veteran

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

As a retired night club doorman I have removed people singlehanded from a club only to hand him over to same scene explained above.

I have also handed over to one PC accompanied by a WPC.

Imagine above scenario, and this was NYC or South Central LA one member if general public goes to assist local police and same police shoot him dead.

What would you prefer??

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By *iceguy 1966Man
over a year ago

in pa postcode

The Police have a tremendously difficult job to do and the last thing that is needed is some muppet intervening to assist in the potential escape of a criminal or to get in the way of the officers conducting a lawful arrest.

Just imagine if all the Police Officers in Britain were to take just one day off? Who would you call then to deal with the scum of the universe? The Ghostbusters?????

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By *akedninja OP   Man
over a year ago

edinburgh


"As a retired night club doorman I have removed people singlehanded from a club only to hand him over to same scene explained above.

I have also handed over to one PC accompanied by a WPC.

Imagine above scenario, and this was NYC or South Central LA one member if general public goes to assist local police and same police shoot him dead.

What would you prefer?? Having lived in nyc and l.a I would much rather be here in Scotland,hence why im here and not there... I've actually seen a policeman shoot another policeman (abroad) so id rather any place that was alot less violent and extreme than some of the places I've lived...which is why it concerns me to see this level of unnecessary violence used by the powers that be because the last thing I want is to see this lovely city of Edinburgh end up as wild and lawless as where im from ...something had to be said..

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By *akedninja OP   Man
over a year ago

edinburgh


"The Police have a tremendously difficult job to do and the last thing that is needed is some muppet intervening to assist in the potential escape of a criminal or to get in the way of the officers conducting a lawful arrest.

Just imagine if all the Police Officers in Britain were to take just one day off? Who would you call then to deal with the scum of the universe? The Ghostbusters????? "
I fully appreciate the "difficult" job that the police are faced with,I've said as much above..but that doesn't excuse the excessive use of force...the manhandeling of a disabled pensioner who was pushed and almost fell into oncoming traffic and the heavily pregnant woman who was roughly pushed aswell,I think that is what the member of public felt so strongly about that he was willing to have himself arrested.... Would you allow your grandfather/pregnant wife/gf/sister friend to be treated in this manner simply because the person was wearing a uniform and doing their job? I've worked with and trained the police and nowhere Rudi encounter any protocol that allowed for what I saw last night... So yes at this stage id rather call the Ghostbusters ...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Only time i find myself critical of police is the easy hits they do, the speeding tickets etc...its for our safety??? aye..is it ?

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By *addie bunnetMan
over a year ago

glasgow

just think what it would be without them

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By *akedninja OP   Man
over a year ago

edinburgh


"Only time i find myself critical of police is the easy hits they do, the speeding tickets etc...its for our safety??? aye..is it ?"
power corrupts

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By *akedninja OP   Man
over a year ago

edinburgh


"just think what it would be without them"
the police force is an organisation that's barely a century or so old... The world existed millions of years prior to that... They're only people at the end of the day and anywhere there are people there are conflict of views and problems ...we are a parasite apon this earth

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By *UNKIEMan
over a year ago

south east

why did this member of the public get in the faces of the cops when they are carryin out their job.....probably deserved everything he got

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

This reminds me of an incident!

A guy was manhandled to the ground by four police officers and when asked if he had 'anything on him he shouldn't have' he said 'yeah, four fuckin policemen'! Classic!

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By *addie bunnetMan
over a year ago

glasgow

he got involved because the cops got over handed its normal stuff with them now see it a lot in paisley too

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By *UNKIEMan
over a year ago

south east

Did they get overhanded? no-one knows the background behind this ...seems some people are all too quick to judge the police

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By *addie bunnetMan
over a year ago

glasgow

well if your in handcuffs on the ground and a cop sitting on should he be smashing the guys face off the ground thats why they come in groups of six and more if your kicking off its so they can arrest you without them and the guy getting injured

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By *akedninja OP   Man
over a year ago

edinburgh


"well if your in handcuffs on the ground and a cop sitting on should he be smashing the guys face off the ground thats why they come in groups of six and more if your kicking off its so they can arrest you without them and the guy getting injured "
good point! The guy they were all sitting on last night had his face slammed into the pavement and he was out cold when they literally threw him head first into a police van 20 minutes later....it's not that im critical of the police as much as im concerned with the handling of the situation

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By *UNKIEMan
over a year ago

south east

They wouldnt need to arrive in force if people didnt "kick off"....the fact that soo many do is why the cops dont take chances ...if they pussyfoot about and something happens then they are at fault for not doing enuff to stop it...poor cops are in a lose lose no matter what they do......they will always have my full support

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By *riendly foeWoman
over a year ago

In a crisp poke on the A814


"They wouldnt need to arrive in force if people didnt "kick off"....the fact that soo many do is why the cops dont take chances ...if they pussyfoot about and something happens then they are at fault for not doing enuff to stop it...poor cops are in a lose lose no matter what they do......they will always have my full support "

...Until they have to arrest me

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Only time i find myself critical of police is the easy hits they do, the speeding tickets etc...its for our safety??? aye..is it ?"

Ask that of a parent who's kid has been killed in a 30 zone by a car doing 40

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By *UNKIEMan
over a year ago

south east


" good point! The guy they were all sitting on last night had his face slammed into the pavement and he was out cold when they literally threw him head first into a police van 20 minutes later....it's not that im critical of the police as much as im concerned with the handling of the situation "

again every situation on its merits and without knowing the facts behind the arrest I dont see how people can be critical...its possible this was a known violent offender ...or seen to be with his actions ...if either then good on the cops I say

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Only time i find myself critical of police is the easy hits they do, the speeding tickets etc...its for our safety??? aye..is it ?"

But isn't speeding illegal?? Doesn't speeding kill?? Maybe these drivers should slow down to the proper speed limit and then they wouldn't get pulled over for BREAKING THE LAW!

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By *UNKIEMan
over a year ago

south east


"Only time i find myself critical of police is the easy hits they do, the speeding tickets etc...its for our safety??? aye..is it ?

Ask that of a parent who's kid has been killed in a 30 zone by a car doing 40"

If you dont want a ticket then dont speed...yes I know everyone does at somepoint ...but man up and accept it if you get caught....it is a law your breaking

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Dont even get me started on the police!! They r a law unto themselfs!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Society will always chastise the police. They will always "get it wrong" be "too heavy handed" and then during the riots last year the police where apparently not robust enough.

There is far too much beurocracy and politics behind policing in today's world. Too man "do gooders"! People rant and rave about criminals human rights so where does the victims rights come into that?????

I know may cops, firefighters, paramedics, nurses and doctors who work 24/7 365 putting themselves in harms way to look after those who may not appreciate exactly what they do and they always step up to the plate when required.

Yes I agree Police Scotland isn't perfect however I've always said that the police force is purely a reflection of society.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The perils of commenting in a forum, not done for speeding, learnt my lesson years ago and indeed... man'd up.

7am on a sunday morning..not another car on the road (dual carriageway) apart from a mobile speed camera, drivers clicked 5mph over limit. 3points on licence and £60 fine...think it goes on the police records as crime solved.

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By *akedninja OP   Man
over a year ago

edinburgh


"They wouldnt need to arrive in force if people didnt "kick off"....the fact that soo many do is why the cops dont take chances ...if they pussyfoot about and something happens then they are at fault for not doing enuff to stop it...poor cops are in a lose lose no matter what they do......they will always have my full support "
are you saying that you support the use of heavy handed policing against disabled pensioners & pregnant women? coz what im saying is im not,violence begets violence...it's alright to bury your head in the sand until it happens to you or yours then it's a different story id wager

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By *akedninja OP   Man
over a year ago

edinburgh


"They wouldnt need to arrive in force if people didnt "kick off"....the fact that soo many do is why the cops dont take chances ...if they pussyfoot about and something happens then they are at fault for not doing enuff to stop it...poor cops are in a lose lose no matter what they do......they will always have my full support "
tell that to the old disabled fella who was grabbed by the throat & shoved off his feet after expressing his discontentment of having seen the self same young officer roughly push a heavily pregnant woman

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By *akedninja OP   Man
over a year ago

edinburgh


"Dont even get me started on the police!! They r a law unto themselfs!! "
it seems that we're not allowed to criticise an organisation that we finance via our taxes to provide us a with service even when they act in a highly unprofessional and disturbing fashion...whatever happened to free speech...this must be what it feels like to live in a dictatorship lol

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By *lassic1Man
over a year ago

bellshill


"They wouldnt need to arrive in force if people didnt "kick off"....the fact that soo many do is why the cops dont take chances ...if they pussyfoot about and something happens then they are at fault for not doing enuff to stop it...poor cops are in a lose lose no matter what they do......they will always have my full support tell that to the old disabled fella who was grabbed by the throat & shoved off his feet after expressing his discontentment of having seen the self same young officer roughly push a heavily pregnant woman"

Ohhh gosh its such a shame that your very brief and honourable unbiased observations and comments are being questioned at all....I mean you do come over as a totally impartial and extremely concerned citizen try to quitely express an opinion ....I didnt note for one second that you had an axe to grind...no not at all

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By *riendly foeWoman
over a year ago

In a crisp poke on the A814


"

it seems that we're not allowed to criticise an organisation that we finance via our taxes to provide us a with service "

Wouldnt dream of criticizing an organisation that (god forbid) I may need the help of one day!!

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By *akedninja OP   Man
over a year ago

edinburgh


"

it seems that we're not allowed to criticise an organisation that we finance via our taxes to provide us a with service

Wouldnt dream of criticizing an organisation that (god forbid) I may need the help of one day!!"
lets hope for your sake that they don't have you face first to the pavement as we wouldnt want them damaging your pretty face as im sure you'd not have nothing to say about that seeing as your very vocal with your comments lol

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By *riendly foeWoman
over a year ago

In a crisp poke on the A814


"

lets hope for your sake that they don't have you face first to the pavement as we wouldnt want them damaging your pretty face as im sure you'd not have nothing to say about that seeing as your very vocal with your comments lol"

So your saying that IF I ever needed the police for anything they would just get me down and smash my face on the ground!!......

Jeez im glad I have far more faith in the police than you do

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By *akedninja OP   Man
over a year ago

edinburgh

Id like to extend a warm welcome to all the wind up merchants who look for any opportunity to hi-jack a post to inject some cynicism there is always 2 sides to every story.... Unfortunately alot of people don't realise that and seem to think their view is the right view...this is what leads to war....(We Are RIght-W.A.R)

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By *riendly foeWoman
over a year ago

In a crisp poke on the A814

You have your opinion of the Police force...

I have mine....

I just hope you never need them for anything!

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By *riendly foeWoman
over a year ago

In a crisp poke on the A814


" there is always 2 sides to every story.... "

Correct....

And we only got YOUR side of it....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Id like to extend a warm welcome to all the wind up merchants who look for any opportunity to hi-jack a post to inject some cynicism there is always 2 sides to every story.... Unfortunately alot of people don't realise that and seem to think their view is the right view...this is what leads to war....(We Are RIght-W.A.R) "

I can't see anywhere in this thread where it's been hijacked. All the posts have either supported your view or haven't and likewise I can't really see cynicism apart from those opposing the view that the police do a good job and of course you think your view is right so why criticise others who think theirs is?

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By *akedninja OP   Man
over a year ago

edinburgh


"You have your opinion of the Police force...

I have mine....

I just hope you never need them for anything!

"
lol you probably missed the part where I stated that I've worked with & trained the police & that Im not criticising the force on a whole..I was simply stating my observations of a mismanagement of a situation that I witnessed from start to finish during a 30 minute time frame as it was escalated by the heavyhanded approach of an irate young officer,how you managed to take that to mean that im some sort of police hating so and so I've no idea, all im really saying here in this post is where do we draw the line on what's acceptable in an alleged "civilised" society? How we treat the weakest of our society defines us as a whole and having travelled and lived all over the world in 3rd world countries where I've witnessed some extreme policing ..well I think I wouldnt like to see things go to those extremes here and we as a people shouldn't stand by silently whilst those who we entrust our safety too take liberties with that authority that we grant them,as with any organisation there are always a minority who don't act in accordance with the mission statement protocol and this reflects badly on everyone else within that organisation so who's responsibility is it really to do/say something about it if not them? Us perhaps? Im all for peace and unity but im too much of an idealist as the reality is that there are those who like antagonism,violence,corruption,power,abuse etc.

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By *akedninja OP   Man
over a year ago

edinburgh

Swings and roundabouts lol did I mention I don't have any Justin bieber albums...hmm it will be interesting to see what conflicting responses I get to this comment live and let live! Hope youve enjoyed your moan..now I'll let you get back to your cups of tea and biccys and coronation st lol im away for a jaffa cake and to watch a re-run of only fools and horses....RODNEY! xxxxxxx

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By *lassic1Man
over a year ago

bellshill


"Id like to extend a warm welcome to all the wind up merchants who look for any opportunity to hi-jack a post to inject some cynicism there is always 2 sides to every story.... Unfortunately alot of people don't realise that and seem to think their view is the right view...this is what leads to war....(We Are RIght-W.A.R) "

My gosh you are so..so correct it is astonishing that anyone would think for one moment that you were obsessed with your campaign. No I didnt notice it at all..

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By *riendly foeWoman
over a year ago

In a crisp poke on the A814

And again.....

We only got YOUR side of it...

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By *riendly foeWoman
over a year ago

In a crisp poke on the A814

PLONKA!!!!!!!

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By *akedninja OP   Man
over a year ago

edinburgh


"And again.....

We only got YOUR side of it... "
I don't have a side..I wasn't involved so it's nothing to do with me...thankfully! Just hope I never find myself in that predicament..that's all... If a tree falls in the woods and no one is there to hear it then does that tree make a noise or does a bear wipe its ass with a rusty colored rabbit?

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By *akedninja OP   Man
over a year ago

edinburgh


"PLONKA!!!!!!! "
what would del boy do in the situation I described above I wonder? Lol now that's an idea for a show wouldnt ya say lol

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By *lassic1Man
over a year ago

bellshill

Phewwww.....I think he has gone off line.

Can we talk about the meaning of life or something less important please.

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By *akedninja OP   Man
over a year ago

edinburgh


"PLONKA!!!!!!! "
wanna buy a genuine Rolex for £20? It's just only got 11 hours on it though instead of 12... Tell you what..I'll even knock a fiver off seeing as it's you...being that your me best customer and all

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By *akedninja OP   Man
over a year ago

edinburgh


"Phewwww.....I think he has gone off line.

Can we talk about the meaning of life or something less important please."
the meaning or life is to live life and love and be happy and all that jazz but that's just my humble opinion

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By *lassic1Man
over a year ago

bellshill

Listen guys its a common tactic....keep him talking and the mods will find him easier.

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By *riendly foeWoman
over a year ago

In a crisp poke on the A814


"PLONKA!!!!!!! what would del boy do in the situation I described above I wonder? Lol now that's an idea for a show wouldnt ya say lol "

Knowing Del Boy......Hide before they clocked him!

Frost on other hand, maybe a swift kick

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By *akedninja OP   Man
over a year ago

edinburgh


"PLONKA!!!!!!! what would del boy do in the situation I described above I wonder? Lol now that's an idea for a show wouldnt ya say lol

Knowing Del Boy......Hide before they clocked him!

Frost on other hand, maybe a swift kick "
lol I love gramps!

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By *akedninja OP   Man
over a year ago

edinburgh


"Listen guys its a common tactic....keep him talking and the mods will find him easier."
???

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By *ucycuteTV/TS
over a year ago

Lanarkshire

Ninja - are you going to report what you witnessed? If not surely you are equally to blame as some other innocent person may be subject to such actions and needs to be reviewed.....next time someone close to you potentially.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Listen guys its a common tactic....keep him talking and the mods will find him easier."

Why?

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By *akedninja OP   Man
over a year ago

edinburgh


"Ninja - are you going to report what you witnessed? If not surely you are equally to blame as some other innocent person may be subject to such actions and needs to be reviewed.....next time someone close to you potentially."
thanks,I've already raised my concerns with the relevant bodies aswell as having shared my thoughts here

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By *akedninja OP   Man
over a year ago

edinburgh


"Listen guys its a common tactic....keep him talking and the mods will find him easier.

Why?"
that's what I was wondering aswell mate,thanks for the support

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Listen guys its a common tactic....keep him talking and the mods will find him easier.

Why? that's what I was wondering aswell mate,thanks for the support "

In general I haven't really agreed woth the OP but can't see anything he's said that I'd think would concern a mod

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By *akedninja OP   Man
over a year ago

edinburgh


"Listen guys its a common tactic....keep him talking and the mods will find him easier.

Why? that's what I was wondering aswell mate,thanks for the support

In general I haven't really agreed woth the OP but can't see anything he's said that I'd think would concern a mod"
thanks...I think lol x

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By *iantCookieMan
over a year ago

Stoney

Having recent personal experience with a police officer abusing his position, I can completely agree with the OP.

I can also say that the police that don't abuse their position are very useful within today's society.

Last year, my cousin and I made a sale through our business and the purchasers were a husband and wife (both police officers) buying for their daughter. A year on and we got a phone call from the girl's father screaming down the phone at my cousin accusing her of sending abusive messages to his daughter. At no point did my cousin do what she was accused of. The father made it clear that he was a police officer and would ruin the name of our business.

Long story short, a complaint was made for a man in his 50's intimidating a 21 yr old and threatening her business. What did the police do? Swept it under the carpet.

Also, they feel the need to pull me over at every opportunity they get. I have been pulled over no less than 20 times in the past month for a "routine check" and a few of these officers asking me to breathe on them for an unofficial breath test.

I'd rather they just breathalysed me.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

So weird to find a topic like this on here!

I suppose it is wrong that some Police Officers give the rest of the hard working guys a bad name. I suppose we don't know what the guy did- but still I think its a bit over the top!

Now if it were 6 police officers against me?! I don't know if I would complain! xx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Today, I seen a monkey hump an elephant, whilst doing a handstand on a unicycle, listening to justin beibers 'baby baby'

Was so romantic

I hope that didn't come accross biased or one sided

Thanks to the op for sharing what he witnessed! I've known the op for many years so I think ill go against the grain on this one and take his word for it and trust that what he saw to be how it was. I don't need to hear anyone else's version.

I have witnessed and been subjected to some pretty poor policing, some police officers abusing their authority and using excessive force and intimidation unnecessarily....even if your not a criminal some of them still think it's ok to treat you like one with complete disregard to you as a human being...so for this reason I am away to join the police force..battering oaps and pregnant women and people still telling you you done a good job sounds much more exciting than my thankless job. Can't beat em join em I say

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By *akedninja OP   Man
over a year ago

edinburgh

Lol very well said Vic! I take my hat off to ya mate...couldnt have said it better myself

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

only just seen so wont really go in depth..

Most people nowadays are basically not won over by hierarchical members of our society, we see them as normal people at the end of the day, albeit in a different social position.

so from what I've learned is doctors,armed forces,police and celebrities,are supposed to be respected as pillars of the community/society

unfortunately this makes a few of them become quite arrogant and self serving..and sorry if ur a fan of shows like 'cops' etc etc, surely some people have witnessed both physical and verbal agitators used by the police..

in what Ive been trained it was supposedly about de-escalation..I rarely see any of that in the 'cops' shows..and very very little use for empathy given the nature of some of the incidents.

basically what I'm saying is there is a minority of power-manipulators, however they are now pretty much subject to public judgement before being tried in a court of law(power of the internet eh!)its time they also reciprocated what it means to be a 'public' servant by speaking to who they serve in respectful manners.Its actually no wonder why some people are actually live filming any incidents, and most of the time its pretty doubtful as they record they are actually ever charged for whatever they have been stopped/searched/inspected for...

anyone ever been refused info on a badge and name from a police officer, with a view to make a complaint?- its a law I believe flouted quite commonly, unless an arrest has been made.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Thanks lol

Stand up guy!!!

Cop musta thought he was a Naked Ninja too

Lol

Oh and just so ya know...my story is completely true cos i've trained some monkeys too so you can't doubt it

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"only just seen so wont really go in depth

"

Can ya pm me the in depth version please?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"only just seen so wont really go in depth

Can ya pm me the in depth version please?"

well I coulda have discussed the fascination for celebrities what they get away with, why its 'allowed' but this internet runs out of pages fast!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

What....you mean hijack the post?

Dont let me get in your way.. On ya go any celebrities In particular?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Just witnessed a member of the general public go toe to toe with 6+ police officers after coming to the aid of disabled addict?"

They should have left the poor chap alone.

And chucked the 'addict' in the clyde.

Just my opinion.

I'll get me coat...........

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By *r and Mrs SnogalotCouple
over a year ago

Glasgow

I have to confess the whole disabled addict bit gets me. Throwing them in the clyde is a good idea but cruelty to the fish!

Where I come from going toe to toe with a Police Officer for any reason is going to get a response - most probably the kind described.

Personally it didn't do me any harm to get a kick up the backside when I was caught getting into trouble by our local PC. I don't condone violence, but when there are no real consequences for bad behaviour then it becomes acceptable.

A poor disabled addict? Sorry - but you reap what you sow

Shy

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By *akedninja OP   Man
over a year ago

edinburgh

Lol
"I have to confess the whole disabled addict bit gets me. Throwing them in the clyde is a good idea but cruelty to the fish!

Where I come from going toe to toe with a Police Officer for any reason is going to get a response - most probably the kind described.

Personally it didn't do me any harm to get a kick up the backside when I was caught getting into trouble by our local PC. I don't condone violence, but when there are no real consequences for bad behaviour then it becomes acceptable.

A poor disabled addict? Sorry - but you reap what you sow

Shy "

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By *akedninja OP   Man
over a year ago

edinburgh

Well said buddy
"only just seen so wont really go in depth..

Most people nowadays are basically not won over by hierarchical members of our society, we see them as normal people at the end of the day, albeit in a different social position.

so from what I've learned is doctors,armed forces,police and celebrities,are supposed to be respected as pillars of the community/society

unfortunately this makes a few of them become quite arrogant and self serving..and sorry if ur a fan of shows like 'cops' etc etc, surely some people have witnessed both physical and verbal agitators used by the police..

in what Ive been trained it was supposedly about de-escalation..I rarely see any of that in the 'cops' shows..and very very little use for empathy given the nature of some of the incidents.

basically what I'm saying is there is a minority of power-manipulators, however they are now pretty much subject to public judgement before being tried in a court of law(power of the internet eh!)its time they also reciprocated what it means to be a 'public' servant by speaking to who they serve in respectful manners.Its actually no wonder why some people are actually live filming any incidents, and most of the time its pretty doubtful as they record they are actually ever charged for whatever they have been stopped/searched/inspected for...

anyone ever been refused info on a badge and name from a police officer, with a view to make a complaint?- its a law I believe flouted quite commonly, unless an arrest has been made.

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over a year ago


"Sounds to me like a bit of a one sided story one sided? Do you mean to imply that im anti-police? Lol I only stated my observations considering I work in a professional capacity with the general public & with the police whereby I've trained police,I wish I had recorded the incident so that people wouldnt be quick to make the negative assumption of what was witnessed by many as to be an excessive use of force and manpower...I left out the part where a heavily pregnant woman was pushed in the process by one of the officers,the police are there to provide a service to the general public and without them it would be chaos but wearing a uniform doesn't give you a free license to take liberties with the public ..granted the fella shouldn't have gotten involved as no one else did,but where do you draw the line? 3 police cars,2 police vans,12 officers to arrest 1 man whilst blocking a busy public road for in excess of 20 minutes...im rather impartial to the events of the incident but it's interesting to consider the implications of my observations,all that glitters is not gold im all for peace and unity and everyone living together as one...however idealistic that may sound,I don't favour violence or authority im sorry to say as I've seen an ample misuse of it in my life...where is the love people? That's all im saying"

30 years ago it would have been one police man and a swift tap on the geezers noggin. Not saying that it was a better time, just simpler.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Think im going to become a police grass, i got done for "maybe" being on my phone while driving!

I drive daily, often pass obvious non-hands free drivers, best yet,, stuck behind a merc and the guy had phone to ear and his tablet pc to his left, he could not move from junction untill his pc refreshed so he could look up what was on screen!! But im not bitter,,lol

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By *akedninja OP   Man
over a year ago

edinburgh

Lol things have gone mental these days...total overkill!
"Sounds to me like a bit of a one sided story one sided? Do you mean to imply that im anti-police? Lol I only stated my observations considering I work in a professional capacity with the general public & with the police whereby I've trained police,I wish I had recorded the incident so that people wouldnt be quick to make the negative assumption of what was witnessed by many as to be an excessive use of force and manpower...I left out the part where a heavily pregnant woman was pushed in the process by one of the officers,the police are there to provide a service to the general public and without them it would be chaos but wearing a uniform doesn't give you a free license to take liberties with the public ..granted the fella shouldn't have gotten involved as no one else did,but where do you draw the line? 3 police cars,2 police vans,12 officers to arrest 1 man whilst blocking a busy public road for in excess of 20 minutes...im rather impartial to the events of the incident but it's interesting to consider the implications of my observations,all that glitters is not gold im all for peace and unity and everyone living together as one...however idealistic that may sound,I don't favour violence or authority im sorry to say as I've seen an ample misuse of it in my life...where is the love people? That's all im saying

30 years ago it would have been one police man and a swift tap on the geezers noggin. Not saying that it was a better time, just simpler. "

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By *akedninja OP   Man
over a year ago

edinburgh

What's the world come to eh
"Think im going to become a police grass, i got done for "maybe" being on my phone while driving!

I drive daily, often pass obvious non-hands free drivers, best yet,, stuck behind a merc and the guy had phone to ear and his tablet pc to his left, he could not move from junction untill his pc refreshed so he could look up what was on screen!! But im not bitter,,lol"

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