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"I sat listing to a game of football today and even in was shocked what I heard " What did you hear that was so shocking? | |||
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"Must admit being English and living in Scotland I just don't get the Rangers and Celtic thing even after 25 yrs up here. It just seems to get perpetuated through generations. " | |||
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"Must admit being English and living in Scotland I just don't get the Rangers and Celtic thing even after 25 yrs up here. It just seems to get perpetuated through generations. " to be fair the violence is much worse when attached with the english clubs yes its very bigoted here (not just the glasgow crowd) but the level of violence is no where near the english main clubs levels | |||
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"Must admit being English and living in Scotland I just don't get the Rangers and Celtic thing even after 25 yrs up here. It just seems to get perpetuated through generations. " | |||
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"Thats why i go watch rugby friendly banter plus you can have a pint while watching it " I'd much rather be at the rugby too!!!! | |||
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"Thats why i go watch rugby friendly banter plus you can have a pint while watching it I'd much rather be at the rugby too!!!! " Me to | |||
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"Violence is worse in England. I doubt Strathclyde Police would agree. Everytime the Old Firm meet there is violence not only in or around the Stadium but on our streets and in our homes well after the dust has settled on the game. How many "mixed" marriages result in domestic violence after an Old Firm match. What happened centuries ago in Ireland has no place in modern culture especially inside a football stadium. The good thing this season with them both I different Leagues is there has been no derby game this season. Yes it has hurt the Scottish game financially but the level of sectarian violence has dropped because of it. I would hate to see a return to the 70's when I was a lad starting out on a football career, when fans spilled on to the park and violence was a part of Glasgow life. " sorry didnt say there wasnt violence my point is the level of violence is much more having a family member trained in riot policing i know this as english police aint drafted for celtic rangers games but they are drafted down south when the big clubs are matched together this isnt to slate english folk or football its just a proven fact that violence levels south with football are way higher than here the sectarian problem is a huge one but thankfully the violence levels aint quite so bad | |||
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"I didnt think it was about football, isnt it the hatred between prodistants and catholics? Do football supporters really go to church??" Some do, I know a few. What's kicked it all off this time? Can't be an old firm thing again surely? | |||
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"The problem in Scotland is separate schools etc kids play together on the streets" Sorry but cant agree with that at all ...tho it doesnt help its not the reason ..you dont see anywhere near the same level of bigotry in england and they have seperate schools ...infact you dont see much of it anywhere apart from central scotland .....is it coincidence that theres a strong irish (north and south) connection in central scotland | |||
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"The problem in Scotland is separate schools etc kids play together on the streets" I was brought up in an area of Scotland where ALL schools were non denominational and bigotry was unheard of. Its only on moving to Lanarkshire that I experienced such a culture. There is no harm in having Irish roots ..in fact it is to be encouraged but to go back several generations and all of a sudden have an Irish accent on Paddy's day is somewhat strange. | |||
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"Hate it myself. Especially hate orange walks. Got stuck in the centre of Glasgow a few years ago. Laughed watching it all these people dressed in rangers strips and pissed. Ended up cranking up my music to cancel out all the crap. Wasn't popular with the police standing by. But if they are allowed to have their demonstration in crap then me blasting my car radio with Metallica is my right too. Time for these ignorant idiots to get a life and stop living 200 years in the past. Rant over Ps I am not catholic so has nothing to do with religion. Just a hatred of ignorant, uneducated idiots" | |||
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"Just sat in a Chinese and heard bigot crap for the last hour had to move seats before my wife had to drag me away before I got involved why does this has to happen in Scotland its only football ....I give up " Yes we do have a problem in the west of Scotland in particular ...all agree this is not good, but lets also admit that things have improved greatly since 70's and 80's. things are improving slowly but surely..... Loving all the comments from the rugby fans....about the football types.... (How is the view from the high ground) It's an education and social issue , not a football issue. Rant now over | |||
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"Just sat in a Chinese and heard bigot crap for the last hour had to move seats before my wife had to drag me away before I got involved why does this has to happen in Scotland its only football ....I give up " The Old Firm = Scotland's shame. The 2 clubs build there support on bigotry then display mock horror that it goes on. Not only have they ruined Scottish football they have ruined Scottish society | |||
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"Just sat in a Chinese and heard bigot crap for the last hour had to move seats before my wife had to drag me away before I got involved why does this has to happen in Scotland its only football ....I give up The Old Firm = Scotland's shame. The 2 clubs build there support on bigotry then display mock horror that it goes on. Not only have they ruined Scottish football they have ruined Scottish society " "Ruined Scottish society"....."Scotland's shame"....so it's all the old firms fans fault for the state of our society, nothing to do with social or educational issues ? Speaking as an old firm fan , i have found the vast majority of old firm fans on both sides, to be decent people. I find regurgitated "daily mail type" newspaper statements shameful , and not the vast majority of decent football fans | |||
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"Perhaps if Neil Lennon did not deliberately provoke then his fans wouldn't feel justified also. I am talking about him wearing the republican tri colour whilst at press conferences. What the fuck as the R.O.I got to do with a Scottish club. I'm not a fan of either club but at least you don't see ally wearing orange or the red hand. Root it out the club first before expect the fans to follow" I think you are right, they do have a part to play and those at the top should set an example but is still only a minority of fans | |||
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"Perhaps if Neil Lennon did not deliberately provoke then his fans wouldn't feel justified also. I am talking about him wearing the republican tri colour whilst at press conferences. What the fuck as the R.O.I got to do with a Scottish club. I'm not a fan of either club but at least you don't see ally wearing orange or the red hand. It is a small minority of fans but why do the two clubs roll out the red carpet to them. The great John Ried took on the terrorism of the world but could not handle the green brigade. And to think the two clubs have aplace in English football is nonsense as long as the sectartian bile is there. Why would England want to inject that into thier game. Root it out the club first before expect the fans to follow I think you are right, they do have a part to play and those at the top should set an example but is still only a minority of fans " | |||
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"Perhaps if Neil Lennon did not deliberately provoke then his fans wouldn't feel justified also. I am talking about him wearing the republican tri colour whilst at press conferences. What the fuck as the R.O.I got to do with a Scottish club. I'm not a fan of either club but at least you don't see ally wearing orange or the red hand. Root it out the club first before expect the fans to follow" If u open your eyes its a celtic tracksuit he wears . | |||
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"Perhaps if Neil Lennon did not deliberately provoke then his fans wouldn't feel justified also. I am talking about him wearing the republican tri colour whilst at press conferences. What the fuck as the R.O.I got to do with a Scottish club. I'm not a fan of either club but at least you don't see ally wearing orange or the red hand. Root it out the club first before expect the fans to follow If u open your eyes its a celtic tracksuit he wears ." Right, but does that make it right? Should the club be thinking 'hang on a second, maybe we should be promoting harmony and not trying to inflame the situation' ? Should they be taking a bigger stand against the bigotry? And that goes for Rangers too - please don't think I'm picking on Celtic because I'm not | |||
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"Perhaps if Neil Lennon did not deliberately provoke then his fans wouldn't feel justified also. I am talking about him wearing the republican tri colour whilst at press conferences. What the fuck as the R.O.I got to do with a Scottish club. I'm not a fan of either club but at least you don't see ally wearing orange or the red hand. Root it out the club first before expect the fans to follow If u open your eyes its a celtic tracksuit he wears ." Ok granted. But why is the republican colours even near their strip? Its a forgien country which has no place in Scotland so the inclusion is merely there to further cement a vague tie or allegiance which ultimately is a provocative act by the club. The same could be argued fir rangers wearing red white and blue. The difference is they are a britsish club who okay in Britain so although no doubt a concious attire still acceptable (ICT wear red white blue with no allusion to bigotry) We cannot expect the fans to change when the clubs themselves are designing their kits to further display an allegiance of any kind. | |||
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"Perhaps if Neil Lennon did not deliberately provoke then his fans wouldn't feel justified also. I am talking about him wearing the republican tri colour whilst at press conferences. What the fuck as the R.O.I got to do with a Scottish club. I'm not a fan of either club but at least you don't see ally wearing orange or the red hand. Root it out the club first before expect the fans to follow If u open your eyes its a celtic tracksuit he wears . Right, but does that make it right? Should the club be thinking 'hang on a second, maybe we should be promoting harmony and not trying to inflame the situation' ? Should they be taking a bigger stand against the bigotry? And that goes for Rangers too - please don't think I'm picking on Celtic because I'm not " Of course its rite hes the celtic manager wearing the club tracksuit just like any other manager does. | |||
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"Perhaps if Neil Lennon did not deliberately provoke then his fans wouldn't feel justified also. I am talking about him wearing the republican tri colour whilst at press conferences. What the fuck as the R.O.I got to do with a Scottish club. I'm not a fan of either club but at least you don't see ally wearing orange or the red hand. Root it out the club first before expect the fans to follow If u open your eyes its a celtic tracksuit he wears . Right, but does that make it right? Should the club be thinking 'hang on a second, maybe we should be promoting harmony and not trying to inflame the situation' ? Should they be taking a bigger stand against the bigotry? And that goes for Rangers too - please don't think I'm picking on Celtic because I'm not Of course its rite hes the celtic manager wearing the club tracksuit just like any other manager does." One thinks perhaps youre miss spelling of RITE might just be a Freudian slip reflecting the real RITUALS going on there.?? | |||
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"Perhaps if Neil Lennon did not deliberately provoke then his fans wouldn't feel justified also. I am talking about him wearing the republican tri colour whilst at press conferences. What the fuck as the R.O.I got to do with a Scottish club. I'm not a fan of either club but at least you don't see ally wearing orange or the red hand. Root it out the club first before expect the fans to follow If u open your eyes its a celtic tracksuit he wears . Ok granted. But why is the republican colours even near their strip? Its a forgien country which has no place in Scotland so the inclusion is merely there to further cement a vague tie or allegiance which ultimately is a provocative act by the club. The same could be argued fir rangers wearing red white and blue. The difference is they are a britsish club who okay in Britain so although no doubt a concious attire still acceptable (ICT wear red white blue with no allusion to bigotry) We cannot expect the fans to change when the clubs themselves are designing their kits to further display an allegiance of any kind." A provocative act to display the irish tricolour ur having a laugh . | |||
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"Perhaps if Neil Lennon did not deliberately provoke then his fans wouldn't feel justified also. I am talking about him wearing the republican tri colour whilst at press conferences. What the fuck as the R.O.I got to do with a Scottish club. I'm not a fan of either club but at least you don't see ally wearing orange or the red hand. Root it out the club first before expect the fans to follow If u open your eyes its a celtic tracksuit he wears . Right, but does that make it right? Should the club be thinking 'hang on a second, maybe we should be promoting harmony and not trying to inflame the situation' ? Should they be taking a bigger stand against the bigotry? And that goes for Rangers too - please don't think I'm picking on Celtic because I'm not Of course its rite hes the celtic manager wearing the club tracksuit just like any other manager does." That wasn't what I meant, sorry. Let me be clearer. Is it right that the clubs official attire should have symbols on it that could be used as an excuse for the minority of its fans to continue with their bigotry? | |||
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"Perhaps if Neil Lennon did not deliberately provoke then his fans wouldn't feel justified also. I am talking about him wearing the republican tri colour whilst at press conferences. What the fuck as the R.O.I got to do with a Scottish club. I'm not a fan of either club but at least you don't see ally wearing orange or the red hand. Root it out the club first before expect the fans to follow If u open your eyes its a celtic tracksuit he wears . Ok granted. But why is the republican colours even near their strip? Its a forgien country which has no place in Scotland so the inclusion is merely there to further cement a vague tie or allegiance which ultimately is a provocative act by the club. The same could be argued fir rangers wearing red white and blue. The difference is they are a britsish club who okay in Britain so although no doubt a concious attire still acceptable (ICT wear red white blue with no allusion to bigotry) We cannot expect the fans to change when the clubs themselves are designing their kits to further display an allegiance of any kind. A provocative act to display the irish tricolour ur having a laugh . " I would say uts highly provoctative. what is the need other than to say 'we are loyal to the republican cause' ? As I can see no other reason why a Scottish club playing in Britain would want to wear a forgien flag. A bit like an Israeli club seeing Palestinian colours I think! | |||
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"Perhaps if Neil Lennon did not deliberately provoke then his fans wouldn't feel justified also. I am talking about him wearing the republican tri colour whilst at press conferences. What the fuck as the R.O.I got to do with a Scottish club. I'm not a fan of either club but at least you don't see ally wearing orange or the red hand. Root it out the club first before expect the fans to follow If u open your eyes its a celtic tracksuit he wears . Right, but does that make it right? Should the club be thinking 'hang on a second, maybe we should be promoting harmony and not trying to inflame the situation' ? Should they be taking a bigger stand against the bigotry? And that goes for Rangers too - please don't think I'm picking on Celtic because I'm not Of course its rite hes the celtic manager wearing the club tracksuit just like any other manager does. One thinks perhaps youre miss spelling of RITE might just be a Freudian slip reflecting the real RITUALS going on there.??" Oh the grammar polis il spell any word the way I like if u dont like dont comment | |||
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"Perhaps if Neil Lennon did not deliberately provoke then his fans wouldn't feel justified also. I am talking about him wearing the republican tri colour whilst at press conferences. What the fuck as the R.O.I got to do with a Scottish club. I'm not a fan of either club but at least you don't see ally wearing orange or the red hand. Root it out the club first before expect the fans to follow If u open your eyes its a celtic tracksuit he wears . Ok granted. But why is the republican colours even near their strip? Its a forgien country which has no place in Scotland so the inclusion is merely there to further cement a vague tie or allegiance which ultimately is a provocative act by the club. The same could be argued fir rangers wearing red white and blue. The difference is they are a britsish club who okay in Britain so although no doubt a concious attire still acceptable (ICT wear red white blue with no allusion to bigotry) We cannot expect the fans to change when the clubs themselves are designing their kits to further display an allegiance of any kind. A provocative act to display the irish tricolour ur having a laugh . " Why is it a laugh? The Irish Tricolour is a national flag of the Republic of Ireland. I'm fairly sure it's not the club flag of Glasgow Celtic Football Club. It can be seen as a symbol of hatred by certain factions including the minority of Rangers supporters who also like to chant racist chants and think that bigotry is perfectly acceptable. Like I said earlier, I think both Celtic and Rangers are equally to blame in this and that BOTH clubs should do what they can to try and lead their supporters away from bigotry. I'm sure there are things about the rangers kit that inflames the feelings of hatred amongst Celtic supporters to | |||
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"Perhaps if Neil Lennon did not deliberately provoke then his fans wouldn't feel justified also. I am talking about him wearing the republican tri colour whilst at press conferences. What the fuck as the R.O.I got to do with a Scottish club. I'm not a fan of either club but at least you don't see ally wearing orange or the red hand. Root it out the club first before expect the fans to follow If u open your eyes its a celtic tracksuit he wears . Ok granted. But why is the republican colours even near their strip? Its a forgien country which has no place in Scotland so the inclusion is merely there to further cement a vague tie or allegiance which ultimately is a provocative act by the club. The same could be argued fir rangers wearing red white and blue. The difference is they are a britsish club who okay in Britain so although no doubt a concious attire still acceptable (ICT wear red white blue with no allusion to bigotry) We cannot expect the fans to change when the clubs themselves are designing their kits to further display an allegiance of any kind. A provocative act to display the irish tricolour ur having a laugh . Why is it a laugh? The Irish Tricolour is a national flag of the Republic of Ireland. I'm fairly sure it's not the club flag of Glasgow Celtic Football Club. It can be seen as a symbol of hatred by certain factions including the minority of Rangers supporters who also like to chant racist chants and think that bigotry is perfectly acceptable. Like I said earlier, I think both Celtic and Rangers are equally to blame in this and that BOTH clubs should do what they can to try and lead their supporters away from bigotry. I'm sure there are things about the rangers kit that inflames the feelings of hatred amongst Celtic supporters to " If u read celtics history they were founded by irish to help fellow irish and scots who wer living in the slums of glasgow and that is why the tricolous is on sum merchandies and also flies at celtic park,oh and not once in any of my posts have I mentioned bigotry or rangers . | |||
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"Perhaps if Neil Lennon did not deliberately provoke then his fans wouldn't feel justified also. I am talking about him wearing the republican tri colour whilst at press conferences. What the fuck as the R.O.I got to do with a Scottish club. I'm not a fan of either club but at least you don't see ally wearing orange or the red hand. Root it out the club first before expect the fans to follow If u open your eyes its a celtic tracksuit he wears . Ok granted. But why is the republican colours even near their strip? Its a forgien country which has no place in Scotland so the inclusion is merely there to further cement a vague tie or allegiance which ultimately is a provocative act by the club. The same could be argued fir rangers wearing red white and blue. The difference is they are a britsish club who okay in Britain so although no doubt a concious attire still acceptable (ICT wear red white blue with no allusion to bigotry) We cannot expect the fans to change when the clubs themselves are designing their kits to further display an allegiance of any kind. A provocative act to display the irish tricolour ur having a laugh . Why is it a laugh? The Irish Tricolour is a national flag of the Republic of Ireland. I'm fairly sure it's not the club flag of Glasgow Celtic Football Club. It can be seen as a symbol of hatred by certain factions including the minority of Rangers supporters who also like to chant racist chants and think that bigotry is perfectly acceptable. Like I said earlier, I think both Celtic and Rangers are equally to blame in this and that BOTH clubs should do what they can to try and lead their supporters away from bigotry. I'm sure there are things about the rangers kit that inflames the feelings of hatred amongst Celtic supporters to If u read celtics history they were founded by irish to help fellow irish and scots who wer living in the slums of glasgow and that is why the tricolous is on sum merchandies and also flies at celtic park,oh and not once in any of my posts have I mentioned bigotry or rangers ." History aside in the 21st century when the club are supposedly doing ALL they can to eliminate the problem di you not think it is itsy best unwise, ay worst inflamatory to include the colours in their merchandise? Is there really any need and all it does is further cement the allusion of being IN THAT CAMP. Hypothetically - imagine an Israeli club at a press conference in tel Aviv. The manager addresses the crowd wearing club merchandice which just happens to have Palestinian colours on. The club may have been founded hundreds of years ago by Palestinians in Israel. What do YOU think the reaction would be? | |||
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"Perhaps if Neil Lennon did not deliberately provoke then his fans wouldn't feel justified also. I am talking about him wearing the republican tri colour whilst at press conferences. What the fuck as the R.O.I got to do with a Scottish club. I'm not a fan of either club but at least you don't see ally wearing orange or the red hand. Root it out the club first before expect the fans to follow If u open your eyes its a celtic tracksuit he wears . Ok granted. But why is the republican colours even near their strip? Its a forgien country which has no place in Scotland so the inclusion is merely there to further cement a vague tie or allegiance which ultimately is a provocative act by the club. The same could be argued fir rangers wearing red white and blue. The difference is they are a britsish club who okay in Britain so although no doubt a concious attire still acceptable (ICT wear red white blue with no allusion to bigotry) We cannot expect the fans to change when the clubs themselves are designing their kits to further display an allegiance of any kind. A provocative act to display the irish tricolour ur having a laugh . Why is it a laugh? The Irish Tricolour is a national flag of the Republic of Ireland. I'm fairly sure it's not the club flag of Glasgow Celtic Football Club. It can be seen as a symbol of hatred by certain factions including the minority of Rangers supporters who also like to chant racist chants and think that bigotry is perfectly acceptable. Like I said earlier, I think both Celtic and Rangers are equally to blame in this and that BOTH clubs should do what they can to try and lead their supporters away from bigotry. I'm sure there are things about the rangers kit that inflames the feelings of hatred amongst Celtic supporters to If u read celtics history they were founded by irish to help fellow irish and scots who wer living in the slums of glasgow and that is why the tricolous is on sum merchandies and also flies at celtic park,oh and not once in any of my posts have I mentioned bigotry or rangers ." No you haven't. However, the original thread was about bigotry and it was suggested that football was responsible for it. My point has been that it is a minority of football fans that seize upon the smallest part of their clubs history/team colours/historic hatred of one another to continue the bigotry and to try and justify it. My point was also that EVERYONE from both sides of the old firm knows that its a problem but that it s still only the minority. I have been keen to point out that no club should be singled out for blame but that they should try to lead their fans forward and away from bigotry. I also agree that both clubs do great things for their supporters and their families and the local communities but these things are always overshadowed by the actions of the bigoted minority | |||
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"Perhaps if Neil Lennon did not deliberately provoke then his fans wouldn't feel justified also. I am talking about him wearing the republican tri colour whilst at press conferences. What the fuck as the R.O.I got to do with a Scottish club. I'm not a fan of either club but at least you don't see ally wearing orange or the red hand. Root it out the club first before expect the fans to follow If u open your eyes its a celtic tracksuit he wears . Ok granted. But why is the republican colours even near their strip? Its a forgien country which has no place in Scotland so the inclusion is merely there to further cement a vague tie or allegiance which ultimately is a provocative act by the club. The same could be argued fir rangers wearing red white and blue. The difference is they are a britsish club who okay in Britain so although no doubt a concious attire still acceptable (ICT wear red white blue with no allusion to bigotry) We cannot expect the fans to change when the clubs themselves are designing their kits to further display an allegiance of any kind. A provocative act to display the irish tricolour ur having a laugh . Why is it a laugh? The Irish Tricolour is a national flag of the Republic of Ireland. I'm fairly sure it's not the club flag of Glasgow Celtic Football Club. It can be seen as a symbol of hatred by certain factions including the minority of Rangers supporters who also like to chant racist chants and think that bigotry is perfectly acceptable. Like I said earlier, I think both Celtic and Rangers are equally to blame in this and that BOTH clubs should do what they can to try and lead their supporters away from bigotry. I'm sure there are things about the rangers kit that inflames the feelings of hatred amongst Celtic supporters to If u read celtics history they were founded by irish to help fellow irish and scots who wer living in the slums of glasgow and that is why the tricolous is on sum merchandies and also flies at celtic park,oh and not once in any of my posts have I mentioned bigotry or rangers . History aside in the 21st century when the club are supposedly doing ALL they can to eliminate the problem di you not think it is itsy best unwise, ay worst inflamatory to include the colours in their merchandise? Is there really any need and all it does is further cement the allusion of being IN THAT CAMP. Hypothetically - imagine an Israeli club at a press conference in tel Aviv. The manager addresses the crowd wearing club merchandice which just happens to have Palestinian colours on. The club may have been founded hundreds of years ago by Palestinians in Israel. What do YOU think the reaction would be?" If u find it that provocative maybe u should have a look at urself and ur reasons as it seems u have a problem with celtic fans and irish ppl and there is a word for ppl like that ,cant say it tho as dont want a ban . | |||
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"Perhaps if Neil Lennon did not deliberately provoke then his fans wouldn't feel justified also. I am talking about him wearing the republican tri colour whilst at press conferences. What the fuck as the R.O.I got to do with a Scottish club. I'm not a fan of either club but at least you don't see ally wearing orange or the red hand. Root it out the club first before expect the fans to follow If u open your eyes its a celtic tracksuit he wears . Ok granted. But why is the republican colours even near their strip? Its a forgien country which has no place in Scotland so the inclusion is merely there to further cement a vague tie or allegiance which ultimately is a provocative act by the club. The same could be argued fir rangers wearing red white and blue. The difference is they are a britsish club who okay in Britain so although no doubt a concious attire still acceptable (ICT wear red white blue with no allusion to bigotry) We cannot expect the fans to change when the clubs themselves are designing their kits to further display an allegiance of any kind. A provocative act to display the irish tricolour ur having a laugh . Why is it a laugh? The Irish Tricolour is a national flag of the Republic of Ireland. I'm fairly sure it's not the club flag of Glasgow Celtic Football Club. It can be seen as a symbol of hatred by certain factions including the minority of Rangers supporters who also like to chant racist chants and think that bigotry is perfectly acceptable. Like I said earlier, I think both Celtic and Rangers are equally to blame in this and that BOTH clubs should do what they can to try and lead their supporters away from bigotry. I'm sure there are things about the rangers kit that inflames the feelings of hatred amongst Celtic supporters to If u read celtics history they were founded by irish to help fellow irish and scots who wer living in the slums of glasgow and that is why the tricolous is on sum merchandies and also flies at celtic park,oh and not once in any of my posts have I mentioned bigotry or rangers . History aside in the 21st century when the club are supposedly doing ALL they can to eliminate the problem di you not think it is itsy best unwise, ay worst inflamatory to include the colours in their merchandise? Is there really any need and all it does is further cement the allusion of being IN THAT CAMP. Hypothetically - imagine an Israeli club at a press conference in tel Aviv. The manager addresses the crowd wearing club merchandice which just happens to have Palestinian colours on. The club may have been founded hundreds of years ago by Palestinians in Israel. What do YOU think the reaction would be? If u find it that provocative maybe u should have a look at urself and ur reasons as it seems u have a problem with celtic fans and irish ppl and there is a word for ppl like that ,cant say it tho as dont want a ban ." The Celtic board and mr Lennon knew what statement they were making when they chose to add the colours to their strip. Why not the Scotland colours bring a Scottish club? My point is tgey claim to be anti bigotry yet seem to find excuses to fuel it. Oh I think the word your looking for is british | |||
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"Perhaps if Neil Lennon did not deliberately provoke then his fans wouldn't feel justified also. I am talking about him wearing the republican tri colour whilst at press conferences. What the fuck as the R.O.I got to do with a Scottish club. I'm not a fan of either club but at least you don't see ally wearing orange or the red hand. Root it out the club first before expect the fans to follow If u open your eyes its a celtic tracksuit he wears . Ok granted. But why is the republican colours even near their strip? Its a forgien country which has no place in Scotland so the inclusion is merely there to further cement a vague tie or allegiance which ultimately is a provocative act by the club. The same could be argued fir rangers wearing red white and blue. The difference is they are a britsish club who okay in Britain so although no doubt a concious attire still acceptable (ICT wear red white blue with no allusion to bigotry) We cannot expect the fans to change when the clubs themselves are designing their kits to further display an allegiance of any kind. A provocative act to display the irish tricolour ur having a laugh . Why is it a laugh? The Irish Tricolour is a national flag of the Republic of Ireland. I'm fairly sure it's not the club flag of Glasgow Celtic Football Club. It can be seen as a symbol of hatred by certain factions including the minority of Rangers supporters who also like to chant racist chants and think that bigotry is perfectly acceptable. Like I said earlier, I think both Celtic and Rangers are equally to blame in this and that BOTH clubs should do what they can to try and lead their supporters away from bigotry. I'm sure there are things about the rangers kit that inflames the feelings of hatred amongst Celtic supporters to If u read celtics history they were founded by irish to help fellow irish and scots who wer living in the slums of glasgow and that is why the tricolous is on sum merchandies and also flies at celtic park,oh and not once in any of my posts have I mentioned bigotry or rangers . No you haven't. However, the original thread was about bigotry and it was suggested that football was responsible for it. My point has been that it is a minority of football fans that seize upon the smallest part of their clubs history/team colours/historic hatred of one another to continue the bigotry and to try and justify it. My point was also that EVERYONE from both sides of the old firm knows that its a problem but that it s still only the minority. I have been keen to point out that no club should be singled out for blame but that they should try to lead their fans forward and away from bigotry. I also agree that both clubs do great things for their supporters and their families and the local communities but these things are always overshadowed by the actions of the bigoted minority " I posted to defend the celtic managers rite to wear the club tracksuit I have no interest in bigotry . | |||
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"Perhaps if Neil Lennon did not deliberately provoke then his fans wouldn't feel justified also. I am talking about him wearing the republican tri colour whilst at press conferences. What the fuck as the R.O.I got to do with a Scottish club. I'm not a fan of either club but at least you don't see ally wearing orange or the red hand. Root it out the club first before expect the fans to follow If u open your eyes its a celtic tracksuit he wears . Ok granted. But why is the republican colours even near their strip? Its a forgien country which has no place in Scotland so the inclusion is merely there to further cement a vague tie or allegiance which ultimately is a provocative act by the club. The same could be argued fir rangers wearing red white and blue. The difference is they are a britsish club who okay in Britain so although no doubt a concious attire still acceptable (ICT wear red white blue with no allusion to bigotry) We cannot expect the fans to change when the clubs themselves are designing their kits to further display an allegiance of any kind. A provocative act to display the irish tricolour ur having a laugh . Why is it a laugh? The Irish Tricolour is a national flag of the Republic of Ireland. I'm fairly sure it's not the club flag of Glasgow Celtic Football Club. It can be seen as a symbol of hatred by certain factions including the minority of Rangers supporters who also like to chant racist chants and think that bigotry is perfectly acceptable. Like I said earlier, I think both Celtic and Rangers are equally to blame in this and that BOTH clubs should do what they can to try and lead their supporters away from bigotry. I'm sure there are things about the rangers kit that inflames the feelings of hatred amongst Celtic supporters to If u read celtics history they were founded by irish to help fellow irish and scots who wer living in the slums of glasgow and that is why the tricolous is on sum merchandies and also flies at celtic park,oh and not once in any of my posts have I mentioned bigotry or rangers . No you haven't. However, the original thread was about bigotry and it was suggested that football was responsible for it. My point has been that it is a minority of football fans that seize upon the smallest part of their clubs history/team colours/historic hatred of one another to continue the bigotry and to try and justify it. My point was also that EVERYONE from both sides of the old firm knows that its a problem but that it s still only the minority. I have been keen to point out that no club should be singled out for blame but that they should try to lead their fans forward and away from bigotry. I also agree that both clubs do great things for their supporters and their families and the local communities but these things are always overshadowed by the actions of the bigoted minority I posted to defend the celtic managers rite to wear the club tracksuit I have no interest in bigotry ." And that's right. But I was trying o make the point that the club should do more not Neil Lennon | |||
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"Perhaps if Neil Lennon did not deliberately provoke then his fans wouldn't feel justified also. I am talking about him wearing the republican tri colour whilst at press conferences. What the fuck as the R.O.I got to do with a Scottish club. I'm not a fan of either club but at least you don't see ally wearing orange or the red hand. Root it out the club first before expect the fans to follow If u open your eyes its a celtic tracksuit he wears . Ok granted. But why is the republican colours even near their strip? Its a forgien country which has no place in Scotland so the inclusion is merely there to further cement a vague tie or allegiance which ultimately is a provocative act by the club. The same could be argued fir rangers wearing red white and blue. The difference is they are a britsish club who okay in Britain so although no doubt a concious attire still acceptable (ICT wear red white blue with no allusion to bigotry) We cannot expect the fans to change when the clubs themselves are designing their kits to further display an allegiance of any kind. A provocative act to display the irish tricolour ur having a laugh . Why is it a laugh? The Irish Tricolour is a national flag of the Republic of Ireland. I'm fairly sure it's not the club flag of Glasgow Celtic Football Club. It can be seen as a symbol of hatred by certain factions including the minority of Rangers supporters who also like to chant racist chants and think that bigotry is perfectly acceptable. Like I said earlier, I think both Celtic and Rangers are equally to blame in this and that BOTH clubs should do what they can to try and lead their supporters away from bigotry. I'm sure there are things about the rangers kit that inflames the feelings of hatred amongst Celtic supporters to If u read celtics history they were founded by irish to help fellow irish and scots who wer living in the slums of glasgow and that is why the tricolous is on sum merchandies and also flies at celtic park,oh and not once in any of my posts have I mentioned bigotry or rangers . No you haven't. However, the original thread was about bigotry and it was suggested that football was responsible for it. My point has been that it is a minority of football fans that seize upon the smallest part of their clubs history/team colours/historic hatred of one another to continue the bigotry and to try and justify it. My point was also that EVERYONE from both sides of the old firm knows that its a problem but that it s still only the minority. I have been keen to point out that no club should be singled out for blame but that they should try to lead their fans forward and away from bigotry. I also agree that both clubs do great things for their supporters and their families and the local communities but these things are always overshadowed by the actions of the bigoted minority I posted to defend the celtic managers rite to wear the club tracksuit I have no interest in bigotry . And that's right. But I was trying o make the point that the club should do more not Neil Lennon " So wot has he done wrong? Other than wear the club tracksuit that happens to have a green white and gold round the collar . | |||
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"Perhaps if Neil Lennon did not deliberately provoke then his fans wouldn't feel justified also. I am talking about him wearing the republican tri colour whilst at press conferences. What the fuck as the R.O.I got to do with a Scottish club. I'm not a fan of either club but at least you don't see ally wearing orange or the red hand. Root it out the club first before expect the fans to follow If u open your eyes its a celtic tracksuit he wears . Ok granted. But why is the republican colours even near their strip? Its a forgien country which has no place in Scotland so the inclusion is merely there to further cement a vague tie or allegiance which ultimately is a provocative act by the club. The same could be argued fir rangers wearing red white and blue. The difference is they are a britsish club who okay in Britain so although no doubt a concious attire still acceptable (ICT wear red white blue with no allusion to bigotry) We cannot expect the fans to change when the clubs themselves are designing their kits to further display an allegiance of any kind. A provocative act to display the irish tricolour ur having a laugh . Why is it a laugh? The Irish Tricolour is a national flag of the Republic of Ireland. I'm fairly sure it's not the club flag of Glasgow Celtic Football Club. It can be seen as a symbol of hatred by certain factions including the minority of Rangers supporters who also like to chant racist chants and think that bigotry is perfectly acceptable. Like I said earlier, I think both Celtic and Rangers are equally to blame in this and that BOTH clubs should do what they can to try and lead their supporters away from bigotry. I'm sure there are things about the rangers kit that inflames the feelings of hatred amongst Celtic supporters to If u read celtics history they were founded by irish to help fellow irish and scots who wer living in the slums of glasgow and that is why the tricolous is on sum merchandies and also flies at celtic park,oh and not once in any of my posts have I mentioned bigotry or rangers . History aside in the 21st century when the club are supposedly doing ALL they can to eliminate the problem di you not think it is itsy best unwise, ay worst inflamatory to include the colours in their merchandise? Is there really any need and all it does is further cement the allusion of being IN THAT CAMP. Hypothetically - imagine an Israeli club at a press conference in tel Aviv. The manager addresses the crowd wearing club merchandice which just happens to have Palestinian colours on. The club may have been founded hundreds of years ago by Palestinians in Israel. What do YOU think the reaction would be? If u find it that provocative maybe u should have a look at urself and ur reasons as it seems u have a problem with celtic fans and irish ppl and there is a word for ppl like that ,cant say it tho as dont want a ban . The Celtic board and mr Lennon knew what statement they were making when they chose to add the colours to their strip. Why not the Scotland colours bring a Scottish club? My point is tgey claim to be anti bigotry yet seem to find excuses to fuel it. Oh I think the word your looking for is british" I have already explained why,if ur trying to get me into a bigoted slanging match aint going to happen . | |||
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"Perhaps if Neil Lennon did not deliberately provoke then his fans wouldn't feel justified also. I am talking about him wearing the republican tri colour whilst at press conferences. What the fuck as the R.O.I got to do with a Scottish club. I'm not a fan of either club but at least you don't see ally wearing orange or the red hand. Root it out the club first before expect the fans to follow If u open your eyes its a celtic tracksuit he wears . Ok granted. But why is the republican colours even near their strip? Its a forgien country which has no place in Scotland so the inclusion is merely there to further cement a vague tie or allegiance which ultimately is a provocative act by the club. The same could be argued fir rangers wearing red white and blue. The difference is they are a britsish club who okay in Britain so although no doubt a concious attire still acceptable (ICT wear red white blue with no allusion to bigotry) We cannot expect the fans to change when the clubs themselves are designing their kits to further display an allegiance of any kind. A provocative act to display the irish tricolour ur having a laugh . Why is it a laugh? The Irish Tricolour is a national flag of the Republic of Ireland. I'm fairly sure it's not the club flag of Glasgow Celtic Football Club. It can be seen as a symbol of hatred by certain factions including the minority of Rangers supporters who also like to chant racist chants and think that bigotry is perfectly acceptable. Like I said earlier, I think both Celtic and Rangers are equally to blame in this and that BOTH clubs should do what they can to try and lead their supporters away from bigotry. I'm sure there are things about the rangers kit that inflames the feelings of hatred amongst Celtic supporters to If u read celtics history they were founded by irish to help fellow irish and scots who wer living in the slums of glasgow and that is why the tricolous is on sum merchandies and also flies at celtic park,oh and not once in any of my posts have I mentioned bigotry or rangers . History aside in the 21st century when the club are supposedly doing ALL they can to eliminate the problem di you not think it is itsy best unwise, ay worst inflamatory to include the colours in their merchandise? Is there really any need and all it does is further cement the allusion of being IN THAT CAMP. Hypothetically - imagine an Israeli club at a press conference in tel Aviv. The manager addresses the crowd wearing club merchandice which just happens to have Palestinian colours on. The club may have been founded hundreds of years ago by Palestinians in Israel. What do YOU think the reaction would be? If u find it that provocative maybe u should have a look at urself and ur reasons as it seems u have a problem with celtic fans and irish ppl and there is a word for ppl like that ,cant say it tho as dont want a ban . The Celtic board and mr Lennon knew what statement they were making when they chose to add the colours to their strip. Why not the Scotland colours bring a Scottish club? My point is tgey claim to be anti bigotry yet seem to find excuses to fuel it. Oh I think the word your looking for is british I have already explained why,if ur trying to get me into a bigoted slanging match aint going to happen ." That is far from my intention. I merely stated my belief Lennon should not wear the colours as I believe their inclusion merely furthers the clubs ties to the sectarian problem..one which they profess to be tackling.bmy point is that it would be simpler NOT to have the colours at all and therefore this wouldn't be flagged up. When they designed the top they must have discussed the imagery and what statement they wished to project. I feel the inclusion was therefore thought out and deliberate and as such a deliberate act which rather than helping stamp out the problem associated with the. Luv it merely serves to feul it. I mentioned Lennon as he CHOSE to wear it as opposed to other strips bearing just the club logo. Hr could have used common sense and avoided wearing the top. (remember players abstaining from wearing poppies?) I am not trying to intive you to be a bigot. You defended Lennon and I asked your reasoning whilst pointing out how some may have taken offence to his attire | |||
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"U have given ur opinion which is u find celtic merbhandies provocative and offensive ,surely anyone who take offence it is they who have the problem. " You seem to think I am a bigoted rangers supporter because I think your club are foolish to adorn their strip with iconography which holds certain conontations in Glasgow where they reside. I am neither and despise both clubs equally. If you fail to see how the inclusion of the colours can been seen to invite association with sectarianism then you are deluded. You say I am anti Celtic and anti Irish. That is untrue. I am anti the element of both these factions who choose to live in the UK yet claim to despise it. | |||
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"The Republican Tri-colour? Jeez - you demonstrated your anti-Irish racism in that sentence alone. Are you really as big a dick as that thing you're holding?? And please, don't try to justify or further explain. The statement is racist. " Wooooah! Racist! The republican tri colour is the flag of the REPUBLIC of Ireland's flag hence the name I gave it. if I called the French tricolour the republican tri colour us that racist too? Get a grip! | |||
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"U have given ur opinion which is u find celtic merbhandies provocative and offensive ,surely anyone who take offence it is they who have the problem. You seem to think I am a bigoted rangers supporter because I think your club are foolish to adorn their strip with iconography which holds certain conontations in Glasgow where they reside. I am neither and despise both clubs equally. If you fail to see how the inclusion of the colours can been seen to invite association with sectarianism then you are deluded. You say I am anti Celtic and anti Irish. That is untrue. I am anti the element of both these factions who choose to live in the UK yet claim to despise it. " Very well said sir ...reflects my view entirely | |||
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"U have given ur opinion which is u find celtic merbhandies provocative and offensive ,surely anyone who take offence it is they who have the problem. " Bit of a jumble of letters there(Segregated schools no doubt) but I think I can work it out.....probably a large percentage of british people find the merchandise offensive ...yes. | |||
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"U have given ur opinion which is u find celtic merbhandies provocative and offensive ,surely anyone who take offence it is they who have the problem. Bit of a jumble of letters there(Segregated schools no doubt) but I think I can work it out.....probably a large percentage of british people find the merchandise offensive ...yes." Hey mr gramar polis if u got sumthing 2 say spit it out ,and wot has segregated schools got to do with my post ? | |||
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