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"Thoughts folks Witch-hunt or deserves all he gets?" He’s not been found guilty of anything. What I don’t understand is how he played for Clyde with no issues now there’s a problem. There’s a bigger sex abuse scandal in Scottish football, where people have been convicted, that the SNP won’t address yet they can make statements about Goodwillie. | |||
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"Thoughts folks Witch-hunt or deserves all he gets? He’s not been found guilty of anything. What I don’t understand is how he played for Clyde with no issues now there’s a problem. There’s a bigger sex abuse scandal in Scottish football, where people have been convicted, that the SNP won’t address yet they can make statements about Goodwillie. " The verdict was Not Proven. A later Civil Court found he was guilty and he was ordered to pay compensation | |||
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"Thoughts folks Witch-hunt or deserves all he gets? He’s not been found guilty of anything. What I don’t understand is how he played for Clyde with no issues now there’s a problem. There’s a bigger sex abuse scandal in Scottish football, where people have been convicted, that the SNP won’t address yet they can make statements about Goodwillie. The verdict was Not Proven. A later Civil Court found he was guilty and he was ordered to pay compensation " A civil court doesn’t give you a criminal conviction. He was never prosecuted to get a not proven verdict. Do your homework before labelling someone with such a horrendous tag | |||
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"Thoughts folks Witch-hunt or deserves all he gets? He’s not been found guilty of anything. What I don’t understand is how he played for Clyde with no issues now there’s a problem. There’s a bigger sex abuse scandal in Scottish football, where people have been convicted, that the SNP won’t address yet they can make statements about Goodwillie. The verdict was Not Proven. A later Civil Court found he was guilty and he was ordered to pay compensation A civil court doesn’t give you a criminal conviction. He was never prosecuted to get a not proven verdict. Do your homework before labelling someone with such a horrendous tag " Whether it was a criminal or civil court he has been found to be a rapist. Those facts don't change no matter how much you want it to. He is a rapist. | |||
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" The verdict was Not Proven. A later Civil Court found he was guilty and he was ordered to pay compensation " No it wasn’t. There was not enough evidence for the cps to take it to court. He was also not found guilty in a civil court, it was found that the chances of the female being too d*unk to consent was ‘most probable’. So they were fined £100k This is where the law is very tricky, he has not been convicted or found guilty for r**e at all, if he had the money for the legal bills he quite possibly could sue the papers and all for referring to him as a rapist. What I find the saddest parts are that there is a woman who’s trauma is brought up in the papers as and when they have nothing else to write about. She hasn’t been able to fully move on which is actually quite upsetting. Then there’s the kids, of the female if she has any and of David G, his kids will be slaughtered at school when they are of age, again which is really sad. Look at big players, Cristiano Ronaldo was accused of r*pe, paid the female off with £300k. No-one cares. Then there’s the current one with Mason Greenwood, if you have heard the voice recording you will know he r@ped that young lassie, he’s still on the books at Man Utd and will probably be sent to Saudi on loan. Why are r*pe crisis and such like not hounding him? Simple, he can afford the costs to sue, Goodwillie can’t. It’s a topic that will split opinion. Is Goodwillie a r@pist? I really don’t know, but there wasn’t evidence to charge him in a criminal court, he has requested a criminal court many times and the civil court didn’t rule him as guilty of r*pe. He’s never been on criminal trial. That’s the facts of it. | |||
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" The verdict was Not Proven. A later Civil Court found he was guilty and he was ordered to pay compensation No it wasn’t. There was not enough evidence for the cps to take it to court. He was also not found guilty in a civil court, it was found that the chances of the female being too d*unk to consent was ‘most probable’. So they were fined £100k This is where the law is very tricky, he has not been convicted or found guilty for r**e at all, if he had the money for the legal bills he quite possibly could sue the papers and all for referring to him as a rapist. What I find the saddest parts are that there is a woman who’s trauma is brought up in the papers as and when they have nothing else to write about. She hasn’t been able to fully move on which is actually quite upsetting. Then there’s the kids, of the female if she has any and of David G, his kids will be slaughtered at school when they are of age, again which is really sad. Look at big players, Cristiano Ronaldo was accused of r*pe, paid the female off with £300k. No-one cares. Then there’s the current one with Mason Greenwood, if you have heard the voice recording you will know he r@ped that young lassie, he’s still on the books at Man Utd and will probably be sent to Saudi on loan. Why are r*pe crisis and such like not hounding him? Simple, he can afford the costs to sue, Goodwillie can’t. It’s a topic that will split opinion. Is Goodwillie a r@pist? I really don’t know, but there wasn’t evidence to charge him in a criminal court, he has requested a criminal court many times and the civil court didn’t rule him as guilty of r*pe. He’s never been on criminal trial. That’s the facts of it. " Spot on mate | |||
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"In my opinion, David Goodwillie is an good footballer when on the pitch with mediocre players. I don’t understand why teams take the risk of signing him. His refusal to apologise or show any remorse suggests that he may view it as an admission of guilt. Personally, I think any team interested in him deserves the consequences. Also, don’t forget that while he may not have a ‘criminal’ conviction for r*pe, he has been convicted of assault in 2008, 2009 and again in 2010, to me, that’s suggests a pattern of aggressive and violent behavior. He comes across as a vile, arrogant, and entitled individual who has yet to learn his lesson, but never will!" Why should he apologies if he didn’t do it? I know him personally and you aren’t far away when describing him  but that doesn’t making him a r**ist. I don’t like him much but think he’s been treated terribly.
For what it’s worth I think men accused of such crime should remain anonymous until they have been found guilty. Their lives could be ruined by false accusations. Only 3 people will really know what went on that night but what happened to innocent until proven guilty. He’s had a trial by media.
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"Where does it stop? Will he ever be employed out with football? He did a bad thing, one that affects the victim for ever. However the facts are he is either on universal credit bouncing along the bread line to survive or he is allowed to work. Sounds brutal but it's true. Does he have innocent mouths to feed? Are we saying that all doors are closed to him and he has no options except for an option that is unspeakable? " Listen to the James English podcast with DG on YouTube DG is working a “normal” job to make ends meet | |||
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"He deserves all he gets. Just because he’s a professional footballer doesn’t change anything. It’s not just one person making those decisions sponsors were going to pull out of one team he’d signed for, the women’s team were going to leave at another team and now the council are threatening to remove the lease from the team currently in dispute. Part of the issue is he’s shown no remorse. I wouldn’t be happy if my employer hired a rapist. " How can you you say he deserves all he gets when he’s not convicted in a criminal court?….. listen to the James English podcast DG is willing to go to criminal court to have the evidence heard there. Now why would someone who has already “dodged” a conviction be willing to go through that and risk it?…… Why did Robertson who was in the clear and never under suspicion come forward and admit to having sex with the female at the same time…. Risking a conviction for himself……… Lots of things don’t add up for that night in question hence why this case never got to court. Like someone has already said on here Ronaldo has paid a female off and the world has moved on from that. But why pay someone off if you never done it?………. | |||
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"The thought of young men chanting his name horrifies me. I hope he never has a public gig again in his life. " They did, at Clyde for 4 years and no one batted an eyelid | |||
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"Wonder if Aitken had thought through her comments before making them as a lawyer could easily sue her for discrimination unless GCC bans ALL criminals or alleged criminals from using their facilities, esp those involving sex crimes." It surprises me why Aitken hasn’t called for Glasgow city council to sever ties with their contractor City Building after one of their senior members of staff has had a complaint upheld against him for sexual harrassing a pregnant female member of staff……. This complaint was upheld so therefore the man is guilty yet no MP has spoken out about it or calling for any business contracts to end! Yet Aitken wants to carry on crushing DG even after NO criminal charges came or even got upheld in a court of law…….. double standards from her in my view | |||
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"If he is a guilty of the crime then why is he not in prison ? Because in a criminal court the crime has to be beyond reasonable doubt which it was not. If he was a plumber, instead of a footballer, would someone take him to a civil court seeking £500k in damages to be only awarded £100k ? Also if you are found guilty of something are you allowed to take the punishment and then move on with your life ? His punishment was financial and he went bankrupt. He also seems to be hounded out of every way of supporting his family yet does not have a criminal record. It’s a bit of a mess but if he is an alleged criminal then he should be tried in a court. Instead he’s living in purgatory with no way out. If he was a plumber or guy in the street this would not be the case. " Totally agree. If he decided not to play football again and took up a labouring job would he be hounded out from doing that? How is this guy supposed to make a living? | |||
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"He does have a labouring job Listen to the James English podcast with DG he tells you there he’s working as an electricians mate Basically labouring for an electrical company. I had DG guilty but having listened to that and hearing some evidence that I wasn’t aware of changed my opinion…….. why would he be wanting to take this back to court to prove he is right having already dodged one with never being charged?….. Why did Robertson come forward when he wasn’t even implicated in the offence to say he has sex with the female at the same time and it was all consensual?……. Why would he risk being convicted if he didn’t have to from the start…… he done that as it was the right thing to do to allow ALL the facts to be gained and assessed that’s why! " One simple reason could be because getting found guilty is very rare, so he is likely to win regardless if he did it or not. So statistically it’s in his favour to go to court. The reporting rate of this type of offence, to the police, is tiny! Only about 1 in 6 women actual report it to the police. The police then only charge about 2 people for every 100 incidents reported to them, and then only a small percentage of those end up in court and a smaller number are found guilty. For the prosecution it’s a bit like trying to push the Moon up Mount Everest. For the defence, it’s a bit of a wet dream. The criminal justice system in this area is broken, and doesn’t work. All the data and evidence points to that. To ram it home, there is circa 1 in 30 women a victim of this time of crime every year in the UK! that’s 798,000 victims, it’s disgusting. What’s more digesting is the vast majority of perpetrators get away with it. DG case is unusual as normally the victim, unless they get a stonewall conviction, gets annihilated in the court of public opinion. This time it’s the accused, which is very rare. But probably because of they lost the civil case. Which means on the balance of probabilities they did it. | |||
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"He does have a labouring job Listen to the James English podcast with DG he tells you there he’s working as an electricians mate Basically labouring for an electrical company. I had DG guilty but having listened to that and hearing some evidence that I wasn’t aware of changed my opinion…….. why would he be wanting to take this back to court to prove he is right having already dodged one with never being charged?….. Why did Robertson come forward when he wasn’t even implicated in the offence to say he has sex with the female at the same time and it was all consensual?……. Why would he risk being convicted if he didn’t have to from the start…… he done that as it was the right thing to do to allow ALL the facts to be gained and assessed that’s why! One simple reason could be because getting found guilty is very rare, so he is likely to win regardless if he did it or not. So statistically it’s in his favour to go to court. The reporting rate of this type of offence, to the police, is tiny! Only about 1 in 6 women actual report it to the police. The police then only charge about 2 people for every 100 incidents reported to them, and then only a small percentage of those end up in court and a smaller number are found guilty. For the prosecution it’s a bit like trying to push the Moon up Mount Everest. For the defence, it’s a bit of a wet dream. The criminal justice system in this area is broken, and doesn’t work. All the data and evidence points to that. To ram it home, there is circa 1 in 30 women a victim of this time of crime every year in the UK! that’s 798,000 victims, it’s disgusting. What’s more digesting is the vast majority of perpetrators get away with it. DG case is unusual as normally the victim, unless they get a stonewall conviction, gets annihilated in the court of public opinion. This time it’s the accused, which is very rare. But probably because of they lost the civil case. Which means on the balance of probabilities they did it." You can’t completely ruin someone’s life on the balance of probability. | |||
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"He does have a labouring job Listen to the James English podcast with DG he tells you there he’s working as an electricians mate Basically labouring for an electrical company. I had DG guilty but having listened to that and hearing some evidence that I wasn’t aware of changed my opinion…….. why would he be wanting to take this back to court to prove he is right having already dodged one with never being charged?….. Why did Robertson come forward when he wasn’t even implicated in the offence to say he has sex with the female at the same time and it was all consensual?……. Why would he risk being convicted if he didn’t have to from the start…… he done that as it was the right thing to do to allow ALL the facts to be gained and assessed that’s why! One simple reason could be because getting found guilty is very rare, so he is likely to win regardless if he did it or not. So statistically it’s in his favour to go to court. The reporting rate of this type of offence, to the police, is tiny! Only about 1 in 6 women actual report it to the police. The police then only charge about 2 people for every 100 incidents reported to them, and then only a small percentage of those end up in court and a smaller number are found guilty. For the prosecution it’s a bit like trying to push the Moon up Mount Everest. For the defence, it’s a bit of a wet dream. The criminal justice system in this area is broken, and doesn’t work. All the data and evidence points to that. To ram it home, there is circa 1 in 30 women a victim of this time of crime every year in the UK! that’s 798,000 victims, it’s disgusting. What’s more digesting is the vast majority of perpetrators get away with it. DG case is unusual as normally the victim, unless they get a stonewall conviction, gets annihilated in the court of public opinion. This time it’s the accused, which is very rare. But probably because of they lost the civil case. Which means on the balance of probabilities they did it. You can’t completely ruin someone’s life on the balance of probability. " I suppose you’d need to define “completely ruining” someone’s life. He is a 34 year old striker., so at the tail end of his career. He’s had 3 criminal convictions for assault, and the above civil case loss. But he’s still had a pretty full footballing career nonetheless. He had a club every year as far as I can tell. Dundee Utd until 2011, Blackburn 11 to 14, Aberdeen 14 to 16, Argyle 16 to 17 and Clyde 17 to 22. Various loans in there too. Playing over 400 games and scoring about 150 goals. His best return being with Clyde, so that’s probably his level. So it’s not what I’d class as completely ruined. Probably pretty good compared to victims of such crimes. | |||
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"He does have a labouring job Listen to the James English podcast with DG he tells you there he’s working as an electricians mate Basically labouring for an electrical company. I had DG guilty but having listened to that and hearing some evidence that I wasn’t aware of changed my opinion…….. why would he be wanting to take this back to court to prove he is right having already dodged one with never being charged?….. Why did Robertson come forward when he wasn’t even implicated in the offence to say he has sex with the female at the same time and it was all consensual?……. Why would he risk being convicted if he didn’t have to from the start…… he done that as it was the right thing to do to allow ALL the facts to be gained and assessed that’s why! One simple reason could be because getting found guilty is very rare, so he is likely to win regardless if he did it or not. So statistically it’s in his favour to go to court. The reporting rate of this type of offence, to the police, is tiny! Only about 1 in 6 women actual report it to the police. The police then only charge about 2 people for every 100 incidents reported to them, and then only a small percentage of those end up in court and a smaller number are found guilty. For the prosecution it’s a bit like trying to push the Moon up Mount Everest. For the defence, it’s a bit of a wet dream. The criminal justice system in this area is broken, and doesn’t work. All the data and evidence points to that. To ram it home, there is circa 1 in 30 women a victim of this time of crime every year in the UK! that’s 798,000 victims, it’s disgusting. What’s more digesting is the vast majority of perpetrators get away with it. DG case is unusual as normally the victim, unless they get a stonewall conviction, gets annihilated in the court of public opinion. This time it’s the accused, which is very rare. But probably because of they lost the civil case. Which means on the balance of probabilities they did it. You can’t completely ruin someone’s life on the balance of probability. I suppose you’d need to define “completely ruining” someone’s life. He is a 34 year old striker., so at the tail end of his career. He’s had 3 criminal convictions for assault, and the above civil case loss. But he’s still had a pretty full footballing career nonetheless. He had a club every year as far as I can tell. Dundee Utd until 2011, Blackburn 11 to 14, Aberdeen 14 to 16, Argyle 16 to 17 and Clyde 17 to 22. Various loans in there too. Playing over 400 games and scoring about 150 goals. His best return being with Clyde, so that’s probably his level. So it’s not what I’d class as completely ruined. Probably pretty good compared to victims of such crimes. " He’s the victim in this instance. He may have continued to play football but he’s had many false accusations labelled at him from people who don’t know the facts. Look at the first couple of posts someone said he got found not proven. Others said he’s guilty because of a civil trial. We have a judicial system in this country for a reason. Have you ever been in trouble when you were younger? Goodwillie got into a couple of scuffles it doesn’t make him a sex attacker. Declan Gallagher attacked someone with a bat no one ever mentions that | |||
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"He does have a labouring job Listen to the James English podcast with DG he tells you there he’s working as an electricians mate Basically labouring for an electrical company. I had DG guilty but having listened to that and hearing some evidence that I wasn’t aware of changed my opinion…….. why would he be wanting to take this back to court to prove he is right having already dodged one with never being charged?….. Why did Robertson come forward when he wasn’t even implicated in the offence to say he has sex with the female at the same time and it was all consensual?……. Why would he risk being convicted if he didn’t have to from the start…… he done that as it was the right thing to do to allow ALL the facts to be gained and assessed that’s why! One simple reason could be because getting found guilty is very rare, so he is likely to win regardless if he did it or not. So statistically it’s in his favour to go to court. The reporting rate of this type of offence, to the police, is tiny! Only about 1 in 6 women actual report it to the police. The police then only charge about 2 people for every 100 incidents reported to them, and then only a small percentage of those end up in court and a smaller number are found guilty. For the prosecution it’s a bit like trying to push the Moon up Mount Everest. For the defence, it’s a bit of a wet dream. The criminal justice system in this area is broken, and doesn’t work. All the data and evidence points to that. To ram it home, there is circa 1 in 30 women a victim of this time of crime every year in the UK! that’s 798,000 victims, it’s disgusting. What’s more digesting is the vast majority of perpetrators get away with it. DG case is unusual as normally the victim, unless they get a stonewall conviction, gets annihilated in the court of public opinion. This time it’s the accused, which is very rare. But probably because of they lost the civil case. Which means on the balance of probabilities they did it. You can’t completely ruin someone’s life on the balance of probability. I suppose you’d need to define “completely ruining” someone’s life. He is a 34 year old striker., so at the tail end of his career. He’s had 3 criminal convictions for assault, and the above civil case loss. But he’s still had a pretty full footballing career nonetheless. He had a club every year as far as I can tell. Dundee Utd until 2011, Blackburn 11 to 14, Aberdeen 14 to 16, Argyle 16 to 17 and Clyde 17 to 22. Various loans in there too. Playing over 400 games and scoring about 150 goals. His best return being with Clyde, so that’s probably his level. So it’s not what I’d class as completely ruined. Probably pretty good compared to victims of such crimes. He’s the victim in this instance. He may have continued to play football but he’s had many false accusations labelled at him from people who don’t know the facts. Look at the first couple of posts someone said he got found not proven. Others said he’s guilty because of a civil trial. We have a judicial system in this country for a reason. Have you ever been in trouble when you were younger? Goodwillie got into a couple of scuffles it doesn’t make him a sex attacker. Declan Gallagher attacked someone with a bat no one ever mentions that " The judicial system is broken with regard this type of crime. The facts / data around that speak for themself. Which I’ve already pointed out. While a civil trail is a lower burden of proof, it’s not a kangaroo court by any stretch of the imagination. The outcome is an important element to consider when forming an opinion on this matter. So I don’t see how you can draw the conclusion he is the victim based on the facts. The actual victim in this case has been let down by the broken system and was forced to take the matter into her own hands via a civil case. Sorry I just can’t agree with your logic on this one. Anyways I’m out, said my 2p worth. Moving on. | |||
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"He does have a labouring job Listen to the James English podcast with DG he tells you there he’s working as an electricians mate Basically labouring for an electrical company. I had DG guilty but having listened to that and hearing some evidence that I wasn’t aware of changed my opinion…….. why would he be wanting to take this back to court to prove he is right having already dodged one with never being charged?….. Why did Robertson come forward when he wasn’t even implicated in the offence to say he has sex with the female at the same time and it was all consensual?……. Why would he risk being convicted if he didn’t have to from the start…… he done that as it was the right thing to do to allow ALL the facts to be gained and assessed that’s why! One simple reason could be because getting found guilty is very rare, so he is likely to win regardless if he did it or not. So statistically it’s in his favour to go to court. The reporting rate of this type of offence, to the police, is tiny! Only about 1 in 6 women actual report it to the police. The police then only charge about 2 people for every 100 incidents reported to them, and then only a small percentage of those end up in court and a smaller number are found guilty. For the prosecution it’s a bit like trying to push the Moon up Mount Everest. For the defence, it’s a bit of a wet dream. The criminal justice system in this area is broken, and doesn’t work. All the data and evidence points to that. To ram it home, there is circa 1 in 30 women a victim of this time of crime every year in the UK! that’s 798,000 victims, it’s disgusting. What’s more digesting is the vast majority of perpetrators get away with it. DG case is unusual as normally the victim, unless they get a stonewall conviction, gets annihilated in the court of public opinion. This time it’s the accused, which is very rare. But probably because of they lost the civil case. Which means on the balance of probabilities they did it. You can’t completely ruin someone’s life on the balance of probability. I suppose you’d need to define “completely ruining” someone’s life. He is a 34 year old striker., so at the tail end of his career. He’s had 3 criminal convictions for assault, and the above civil case loss. But he’s still had a pretty full footballing career nonetheless. He had a club every year as far as I can tell. Dundee Utd until 2011, Blackburn 11 to 14, Aberdeen 14 to 16, Argyle 16 to 17 and Clyde 17 to 22. Various loans in there too. Playing over 400 games and scoring about 150 goals. His best return being with Clyde, so that’s probably his level. So it’s not what I’d class as completely ruined. Probably pretty good compared to victims of such crimes. He’s the victim in this instance. He may have continued to play football but he’s had many false accusations labelled at him from people who don’t know the facts. Look at the first couple of posts someone said he got found not proven. Others said he’s guilty because of a civil trial. We have a judicial system in this country for a reason. Have you ever been in trouble when you were younger? Goodwillie got into a couple of scuffles it doesn’t make him a sex attacker. Declan Gallagher attacked someone with a bat no one ever mentions that The judicial system is broken with regard this type of crime. The facts / data around that speak for themself. Which I’ve already pointed out. While a civil trail is a lower burden of proof, it’s not a kangaroo court by any stretch of the imagination. The outcome is an important element to consider when forming an opinion on this matter. So I don’t see how you can draw the conclusion he is the victim based on the facts. The actual victim in this case has been let down by the broken system and was forced to take the matter into her own hands via a civil case. Sorry I just can’t agree with your logic on this one. Anyways I’m out, said my 2p worth. Moving on. " Not 100% accurate, sorry. The alleged victim in the case wasn’t failed by the judicial system, they were failed by their own actions compundid by a lack of actual evidence to prove r*pe had actually occurred and not consentual sex. As for the “conviction rate” it is unfortunately low due to the large number of false claims the police have to investigate making it harder for the real victims to get heard and their case proven in court. These false claims cause the stats to be skewed and puts real victims off reporting because it appears they won’t be believed or get justice in the criminal court. I’d make a few changes to the current system for these types of case. 1. BOTH sides get anonymity until a guilty verdict is rendered 2. Any false claims made which can be proven to have been 100% false & intentionally made lead to a prosecution for Wasting Police time. | |||
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"He does have a labouring job Listen to the James English podcast with DG he tells you there he’s working as an electricians mate Basically labouring for an electrical company. I had DG guilty but having listened to that and hearing some evidence that I wasn’t aware of changed my opinion…….. why would he be wanting to take this back to court to prove he is right having already dodged one with never being charged?….. Why did Robertson come forward when he wasn’t even implicated in the offence to say he has sex with the female at the same time and it was all consensual?……. Why would he risk being convicted if he didn’t have to from the start…… he done that as it was the right thing to do to allow ALL the facts to be gained and assessed that’s why! " Both accused have jobs outside football now. When this story resurfaced previously, the media & others tracked Robertson down at his job and got his sacked. Up till the point where GoodWillie became a political punchbag nobody was bothered about either of them from he day of the Civil judgement until DG joined Raith and a Vocal Political fan of a certain party got involved and pulled her “friends” into the issue which thereafter kicked the whole thing off again. It’s likely DG doesn’t need to play professionally again as Raith had to pay out his 4yr contract to get him to leave the club. | |||
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" The verdict was Not Proven. A later Civil Court found he was guilty and he was ordered to pay compensation No it wasn’t. There was not enough evidence for the cps to take it to court. He was also not found guilty in a civil court, it was found that the chances of the female being too d*unk to consent was ‘most probable’. So they were fined £100k This is where the law is very tricky, he has not been convicted or found guilty for r**e at all, if he had the money for the legal bills he quite possibly could sue the papers and all for referring to him as a rapist. What I find the saddest parts are that there is a woman who’s trauma is brought up in the papers as and when they have nothing else to write about. She hasn’t been able to fully move on which is actually quite upsetting. Then there’s the kids, of the female if she has any and of David G, his kids will be slaughtered at school when they are of age, again which is really sad. Look at big players, Cristiano Ronaldo was accused of r*pe, paid the female off with £300k. No-one cares. Then there’s the current one with Mason Greenwood, if you have heard the voice recording you will know he r@ped that young lassie, he’s still on the books at Man Utd and will probably be sent to Saudi on loan. Why are r*pe crisis and such like not hounding him? Simple, he can afford the costs to sue, Goodwillie can’t. It’s a topic that will split opinion. Is Goodwillie a r@pist? I really don’t know, but there wasn’t evidence to charge him in a criminal court, he has requested a criminal court many times and the civil court didn’t rule him as guilty of r*pe. He’s never been on criminal trial. That’s the facts of it. " Ronaldo showed remorse, Goodwille hasn’t. A grown man must surely know when a woman is too dr*nk to give consent. I know of men who have taken the woman home, made sure she’s ok and not done anything else. People have to live with the consequences of their actions. | |||
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" The verdict was Not Proven. A later Civil Court found he was guilty and he was ordered to pay compensation No it wasn’t. There was not enough evidence for the cps to take it to court. He was also not found guilty in a civil court, it was found that the chances of the female being too d*unk to consent was ‘most probable’. So they were fined £100k This is where the law is very tricky, he has not been convicted or found guilty for r**e at all, if he had the money for the legal bills he quite possibly could sue the papers and all for referring to him as a rapist. What I find the saddest parts are that there is a woman who’s trauma is brought up in the papers as and when they have nothing else to write about. She hasn’t been able to fully move on which is actually quite upsetting. Then there’s the kids, of the female if she has any and of David G, his kids will be slaughtered at school when they are of age, again which is really sad. Look at big players, Cristiano Ronaldo was accused of r*pe, paid the female off with £300k. No-one cares. Then there’s the current one with Mason Greenwood, if you have heard the voice recording you will know he r@ped that young lassie, he’s still on the books at Man Utd and will probably be sent to Saudi on loan. Why are r*pe crisis and such like not hounding him? Simple, he can afford the costs to sue, Goodwillie can’t. It’s a topic that will split opinion. Is Goodwillie a r@pist? I really don’t know, but there wasn’t evidence to charge him in a criminal court, he has requested a criminal court many times and the civil court didn’t rule him as guilty of r*pe. He’s never been on criminal trial. That’s the facts of it. " Well said Boyo  | |||
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" The verdict was Not Proven. A later Civil Court found he was guilty and he was ordered to pay compensation No it wasn’t. There was not enough evidence for the cps to take it to court. He was also not found guilty in a civil court, it was found that the chances of the female being too d*unk to consent was ‘most probable’. So they were fined £100k This is where the law is very tricky, he has not been convicted or found guilty for r**e at all, if he had the money for the legal bills he quite possibly could sue the papers and all for referring to him as a rapist. What I find the saddest parts are that there is a woman who’s trauma is brought up in the papers as and when they have nothing else to write about. She hasn’t been able to fully move on which is actually quite upsetting. Then there’s the kids, of the female if she has any and of David G, his kids will be slaughtered at school when they are of age, again which is really sad. Look at big players, Cristiano Ronaldo was accused of r*pe, paid the female off with £300k. No-one cares. Then there’s the current one with Mason Greenwood, if you have heard the voice recording you will know he r@ped that young lassie, he’s still on the books at Man Utd and will probably be sent to Saudi on loan. Why are r*pe crisis and such like not hounding him? Simple, he can afford the costs to sue, Goodwillie can’t. It’s a topic that will split opinion. Is Goodwillie a r@pist? I really don’t know, but there wasn’t evidence to charge him in a criminal court, he has requested a criminal court many times and the civil court didn’t rule him as guilty of r*pe. He’s never been on criminal trial. That’s the facts of it. Ronaldo showed remorse, Goodwille hasn’t. A grown man must surely know when a woman is too dr*nk to give consent. I know of men who have taken the woman home, made sure she’s ok and not done anything else. People have to live with the consequences of their actions. " Have you seen the Ronaldo interview with piers Morgan?……. He doesn’t say sorry when asked about it……. Infact he says he told his mum everything would be ok the law will do it’s job and it did so I am happy….. is what he said In the media it says he said sorry to the female right after sex. So if DG comes out today and says sorry then quite simply all this goes away based on him showing remorse?……. | |||
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"The whole case boils down to simple facts. Something happened that night as both admit having sex for the woman. Evidence wise there was not enough for COPFS to prove it was r*pe and not a consentual act. Many r*pe allegations done make court because of this kind of “morning after” reaction when the partner finds out. Many don’t even get to COPFS as the police were able to get to the truth quickly. Either way both were never convicted and never even put on trial for the alleged criminal offence. Civil actions are a much easier place to get a judgement due to the lower burden of proof being “we think they did it” rather than “we know they did it”. Another factor to be considered is the “damages award formulae” the judges use which considers prooortion of blame and awards a relevant % of the South amount accordingly. She sought £500k and got awarded £100k. That’s 20%. Meaning her award was reduced by 80%." Except she didn’t get a penny because , if memory serves me right, Goodwillie immediately filed for bankruptcy to avoid paying her. I think everyone should read the civil court judgement as that paints a very poor picture of Goodwillie and his buddy. The judge is quite clear about how he saw the evenings events play out. He says the girl was incapacitated to such an extent that she couldn’t possibly have given consent. It’s way too easy for males to play the old we were all d*unk card. | |||
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"The whole case boils down to simple facts. Something happened that night as both admit having sex for the woman. Evidence wise there was not enough for COPFS to prove it was r*pe and not a consentual act. Many r*pe allegations done make court because of this kind of “morning after” reaction when the partner finds out. Many don’t even get to COPFS as the police were able to get to the truth quickly. Either way both were never convicted and never even put on trial for the alleged criminal offence. Civil actions are a much easier place to get a judgement due to the lower burden of proof being “we think they did it” rather than “we know they did it”. Another factor to be considered is the “damages award formulae” the judges use which considers prooortion of blame and awards a relevant % of the South amount accordingly. She sought £500k and got awarded £100k. That’s 20%. Meaning her award was reduced by 80%. Except she didn’t get a penny because , if memory serves me right, Goodwillie immediately filed for bankruptcy to avoid paying her. I think everyone should read the civil court judgement as that paints a very poor picture of Goodwillie and his buddy. The judge is quite clear about how he saw the evenings events play out. He says the girl was incapacitated to such an extent that she couldn’t possibly have given consent. It’s way too easy for males to play the old we were all d*unk card." No he didn’t He says he filed for bankruptcy due to HMRC coming after him for £40l worth of taxes from a previous transfer agents fee He was willing to pay the woman but unable to pay HMRC I only know this due to listening to DG on the podcast where he got the chance to put his version of events forward. | |||
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"The whole case boils down to simple facts. Something happened that night as both admit having sex for the woman. Evidence wise there was not enough for COPFS to prove it was r*pe and not a consentual act. Many r*pe allegations done make court because of this kind of “morning after” reaction when the partner finds out. Many don’t even get to COPFS as the police were able to get to the truth quickly. Either way both were never convicted and never even put on trial for the alleged criminal offence. Civil actions are a much easier place to get a judgement due to the lower burden of proof being “we think they did it” rather than “we know they did it”. Another factor to be considered is the “damages award formulae” the judges use which considers prooortion of blame and awards a relevant % of the South amount accordingly. She sought £500k and got awarded £100k. That’s 20%. Meaning her award was reduced by 80%. Except she didn’t get a penny because , if memory serves me right, Goodwillie immediately filed for bankruptcy to avoid paying her. I think everyone should read the civil court judgement as that paints a very poor picture of Goodwillie and his buddy. The judge is quite clear about how he saw the evenings events play out. He says the girl was incapacitated to such an extent that she couldn’t possibly have given consent. It’s way too easy for males to play the old we were all d*unk card. No he didn’t He says he filed for bankruptcy due to HMRC coming after him for £40l worth of taxes from a previous transfer agents fee He was willing to pay the woman but unable to pay HMRC I only know this due to listening to DG on the podcast where he got the chance to put his version of events forward. So, you read what the judge said in the civil case then. Im not in a position to dispute your last comment. Though I don’t think Goodwillie is reliable or credible through any of this. Again though, I have not read anything about this HMRC circumstance. Still, good to know that he managed to bail out of his responsibilities there too " | |||
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"The whole case boils down to simple facts. Something happened that night as both admit having sex for the woman. Evidence wise there was not enough for COPFS to prove it was r*pe and not a consentual act. Many r*pe allegations done make court because of this kind of “morning after” reaction when the partner finds out. Many don’t even get to COPFS as the police were able to get to the truth quickly. Either way both were never convicted and never even put on trial for the alleged criminal offence. Civil actions are a much easier place to get a judgement due to the lower burden of proof being “we think they did it” rather than “we know they did it”. Another factor to be considered is the “damages award formulae” the judges use which considers prooortion of blame and awards a relevant % of the South amount accordingly. She sought £500k and got awarded £100k. That’s 20%. Meaning her award was reduced by 80%. Except she didn’t get a penny because , if memory serves me right, Goodwillie immediately filed for bankruptcy to avoid paying her. I think everyone should read the civil court judgement as that paints a very poor picture of Goodwillie and his buddy. The judge is quite clear about how he saw the evenings events play out. He says the girl was incapacitated to such an extent that she couldn’t possibly have given consent. It’s way too easy for males to play the old we were all d*unk card. No he didn’t He says he filed for bankruptcy due to HMRC coming after him for £40l worth of taxes from a previous transfer agents fee He was willing to pay the woman but unable to pay HMRC I only know this due to listening to DG on the podcast where he got the chance to put his version of events forward. So, you read what the judge said in the civil case then. Im not in a position to dispute your last comment. Though I don’t think Goodwillie is reliable or credible through any of this. Again though, I have not read anything about this HMRC circumstance. Still, good to know that he managed to bail out of his responsibilities there too " How can you say DG is in your opinion not reliable or credible?…….. Hundreds of business and ordinary folk bail out on HMRC every year I don’t see them being hounded! But now you are finding fault with him for doing it?…….. | |||
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"The whole case boils down to simple facts. Something happened that night as both admit having sex for the woman. Evidence wise there was not enough for COPFS to prove it was r*pe and not a consentual act. Many r*pe allegations done make court because of this kind of “morning after” reaction when the partner finds out. Many don’t even get to COPFS as the police were able to get to the truth quickly. Either way both were never convicted and never even put on trial for the alleged criminal offence. Civil actions are a much easier place to get a judgement due to the lower burden of proof being “we think they did it” rather than “we know they did it”. Another factor to be considered is the “damages award formulae” the judges use which considers prooortion of blame and awards a relevant % of the South amount accordingly. She sought £500k and got awarded £100k. That’s 20%. Meaning her award was reduced by 80%. Except she didn’t get a penny because , if memory serves me right, Goodwillie immediately filed for bankruptcy to avoid paying her. I think everyone should read the civil court judgement as that paints a very poor picture of Goodwillie and his buddy. The judge is quite clear about how he saw the evenings events play out. He says the girl was incapacitated to such an extent that she couldn’t possibly have given consent. It’s way too easy for males to play the old we were all d*unk card. No he didn’t He says he filed for bankruptcy due to HMRC coming after him for £40l worth of taxes from a previous transfer agents fee He was willing to pay the woman but unable to pay HMRC I only know this due to listening to DG on the podcast where he got the chance to put his version of events forward. So, you read what the judge said in the civil case then. Im not in a position to dispute your last comment. Though I don’t think Goodwillie is reliable or credible through any of this. Again though, I have not read anything about this HMRC circumstance. Still, good to know that he managed to bail out of his responsibilities there too How can you say DG is in your opinion not reliable or credible?…….. Hundreds of business and ordinary folk bail out on HMRC every year I don’t see them being hounded! But now you are finding fault with him for doing it?…….. " Should have been clearer. The judges opinion was that both Goodwillie and Robertson were unreliable as witnesses. So I’ll take the judges position on that. HMRC will hound anyone for not paying what they are due to pay. Occasionally some businesses will come to an arrangement but private individuals unless wealthy will always be chased for outstanding amounts owed. Anyway I’m sure his circumstances will always divide opinion and I suppose it’s healthy that everyone doesn’t see everything the same way. I just feel there’s always an element in these cases of blaming the female. It’s not a discussion that will change peoples opinions anyway, so I’ll leave it at that. | |||
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"The whole case boils down to simple facts. Something happened that night as both admit having sex for the woman. Evidence wise there was not enough for COPFS to prove it was r*pe and not a consentual act. Many r*pe allegations done make court because of this kind of “morning after” reaction when the partner finds out. Many don’t even get to COPFS as the police were able to get to the truth quickly. Either way both were never convicted and never even put on trial for the alleged criminal offence. Civil actions are a much easier place to get a judgement due to the lower burden of proof being “we think they did it” rather than “we know they did it”. Another factor to be considered is the “damages award formulae” the judges use which considers prooortion of blame and awards a relevant % of the South amount accordingly. She sought £500k and got awarded £100k. That’s 20%. Meaning her award was reduced by 80%. Except she didn’t get a penny because , if memory serves me right, Goodwillie immediately filed for bankruptcy to avoid paying her. I think everyone should read the civil court judgement as that paints a very poor picture of Goodwillie and his buddy. The judge is quite clear about how he saw the evenings events play out. He says the girl was incapacitated to such an extent that she couldn’t possibly have given consent. It’s way too easy for males to play the old we were all d*unk card." 1 of the reasons COPFS abandoned the case was the police uncovered evidence she wasn’t as incapacitated as claimed as she was capable of walking to the cab, texting her brother, etc. Apparently to this day has never said she knows for certain if she was r*ped as she cannot recall anything after going out and waking up in the house with the 2 accused. | |||
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"The whole case boils down to simple facts. Something happened that night as both admit having sex for the woman. Evidence wise there was not enough for COPFS to prove it was r*pe and not a consentual act. Many r*pe allegations done make court because of this kind of “morning after” reaction when the partner finds out. Many don’t even get to COPFS as the police were able to get to the truth quickly. Either way both were never convicted and never even put on trial for the alleged criminal offence. Civil actions are a much easier place to get a judgement due to the lower burden of proof being “we think they did it” rather than “we know they did it”. Another factor to be considered is the “damages award formulae” the judges use which considers prooortion of blame and awards a relevant % of the South amount accordingly. She sought £500k and got awarded £100k. That’s 20%. Meaning her award was reduced by 80%. Except she didn’t get a penny because , if memory serves me right, Goodwillie immediately filed for bankruptcy to avoid paying her. I think everyone should read the civil court judgement as that paints a very poor picture of Goodwillie and his buddy. The judge is quite clear about how he saw the evenings events play out. He says the girl was incapacitated to such an extent that she couldn’t possibly have given consent. It’s way too easy for males to play the old we were all d*unk card. No he didn’t He says he filed for bankruptcy due to HMRC coming after him for £40l worth of taxes from a previous transfer agents fee He was willing to pay the woman but unable to pay HMRC I only know this due to listening to DG on the podcast where he got the chance to put his version of events forward. So, you read what the judge said in the civil case then. Im not in a position to dispute your last comment. Though I don’t think Goodwillie is reliable or credible through any of this. Again though, I have not read anything about this HMRC circumstance. Still, good to know that he managed to bail out of his responsibilities there too How can you say DG is in your opinion not reliable or credible?…….. Hundreds of business and ordinary folk bail out on HMRC every year I don’t see them being hounded! But now you are finding fault with him for doing it?…….. Should have been clearer. The judges opinion was that both Goodwillie and Robertson were unreliable as witnesses. So I’ll take the judges position on that. HMRC will hound anyone for not paying what they are due to pay. Occasionally some businesses will come to an arrangement but private individuals unless wealthy will always be chased for outstanding amounts owed. Anyway I’m sure his circumstances will always divide opinion and I suppose it’s healthy that everyone doesn’t see everything the same way. I just feel there’s always an element in these cases of blaming the female. It’s not a discussion that will change peoples opinions anyway, so I’ll leave it at that." Susan aitken decided to pile in and her husband had massive hmrc debts and is banned from being a company director | |||
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"Thoughts folks Witch-hunt or deserves all he gets?" He spoke out in a podcast recently about it - the name of the podcast escapes me right now. And still he maintains that at the time the threesome was consensual and they were all having a laugh and enjoying themselves. He was really confused by the allegations. Personally I feel it's a bit of a witch hunt now - and i speak as a victim of sexual assault in the past. At the end of the day, only the people there at the time know what really happened Mrs | |||
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"Thoughts folks Witch-hunt or deserves all he gets? He’s not been found guilty of anything. What I don’t understand is how he played for Clyde with no issues now there’s a problem. There’s a bigger sex abuse scandal in Scottish football, where people have been convicted, that the SNP won’t address yet they can make statements about Goodwillie. " They dont want to upset thier core vote , so they are will8ng to let over 60 odd convictions at the one club go unchallenged Its a disgrace . | |||
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"Thoughts folks Witch-hunt or deserves all he gets? He’s not been found guilty of anything. What I don’t understand is how he played for Clyde with no issues now there’s a problem. There’s a bigger sex abuse scandal in Scottish football, where people have been convicted, that the SNP won’t address yet they can make statements about Goodwillie. The verdict was Not Proven. A later Civil Court found he was guilty and he was ordered to pay compensation A civil court doesn’t give you a criminal conviction. He was never prosecuted to get a not proven verdict. Do your homework before labelling someone with such a horrendous tag Whether it was a criminal or civil court he has been found to be a rapist. Those facts don't change no matter how much you want it to. He is a rapist." Was he found guilty by Jury in the civil case , just asking ? | |||
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"Thoughts folks Witch-hunt or deserves all he gets? He’s not been found guilty of anything. What I don’t understand is how he played for Clyde with no issues now there’s a problem. There’s a bigger sex abuse scandal in Scottish football, where people have been convicted, that the SNP won’t address yet they can make statements about Goodwillie. The verdict was Not Proven. A later Civil Court found he was guilty and he was ordered to pay compensation " he never went to court so wasn't found not proven. I read the 40 odd pages from civil trial, no doubt in my mind the lady could have consented to sex. | |||
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"Thoughts folks Witch-hunt or deserves all he gets? He’s not been found guilty of anything. What I don’t understand is how he played for Clyde with no issues now there’s a problem. There’s a bigger sex abuse scandal in Scottish football, where people have been convicted, that the SNP won’t address yet they can make statements about Goodwillie. The verdict was Not Proven. A later Civil Court found he was guilty and he was ordered to pay compensation A civil court doesn’t give you a criminal conviction. He was never prosecuted to get a not proven verdict. Do your homework before labelling someone with such a horrendous tag Whether it was a criminal or civil court he has been found to be a rapist. Those facts don't change no matter how much you want it to. He is a rapist. Was he found guilty by Jury in the civil case , just asking ?" Nope. Judge only civil hearing. | |||
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"Thoughts folks Witch-hunt or deserves all he gets? He’s not been found guilty of anything. What I don’t understand is how he played for Clyde with no issues now there’s a problem. There’s a bigger sex abuse scandal in Scottish football, where people have been convicted, that the SNP won’t address yet they can make statements about Goodwillie. They dont want to upset thier core vote , so they are will8ng to let over 60 odd convictions at the one club go unchallenged Its a disgrace ." Meanwhile across the city they tell their CSA victims to contact the Liquidators as its a diffrent club. BTW, its a BOYS club who's staff have had the convitions your referring to. | |||
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"Thoughts folks Witch-hunt or deserves all he gets? He’s not been found guilty of anything. What I don’t understand is how he played for Clyde with no issues now there’s a problem. There’s a bigger sex abuse scandal in Scottish football, where people have been convicted, that the SNP won’t address yet they can make statements about Goodwillie. They dont want to upset thier core vote , so they are will8ng to let over 60 odd convictions at the one club go unchallenged Its a disgrace . Meanwhile across the city they tell their CSA victims to contact the Liquidators as its a diffrent club. BTW, its a BOYS club who's staff have had the convitions your referring to." I think you’ll find the reason for it is because it’s the insurance that would be paying out therefore as it’s a difference company they have no control over that issue. There was also no conviction regarding it so it would have to proved. However if the person did suffer abuse then they have every right to compensation and an apology. As I said if the scottish government and local councils want to get involved in the Goodwillie incident then they should definitely be holding public inquiries where there has been 9 convictions at one club. Glasgow city council might want to look at their cheap land deals again since they have set a precedent with glasgow united | |||
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"Thoughts folks Witch-hunt or deserves all he gets? He’s not been found guilty of anything. What I don’t understand is how he played for Clyde with no issues now there’s a problem. There’s a bigger sex abuse scandal in Scottish football, where people have been convicted, that the SNP won’t address yet they can make statements about Goodwillie. They dont want to upset thier core vote , so they are will8ng to let over 60 odd convictions at the one club go unchallenged Its a disgrace . Meanwhile across the city they tell their CSA victims to contact the Liquidators as its a diffrent club. BTW, its a BOYS club who's staff have had the convitions your referring to. I think you’ll find the reason for it is because it’s the insurance that would be paying out therefore as it’s a difference company they have no control over that issue. There was also no conviction regarding it so it would have to proved. However if the person did suffer abuse then they have every right to compensation and an apology. As I said if the scottish government and local councils want to get involved in the Goodwillie incident then they should definitely be holding public inquiries where there has been 9 convictions at one club. Glasgow city council might want to look at their cheap land deals again since they have set a precedent with glasgow united " Glw Utd put Aitken back in her box with their statement. And again, the convictions are on BOYS club staff. Current case has to prove the FOOtTBALL club was linked, and that’s where they’re struggling. But across the city hey won’t have that issue when ithkse claims hit court as club admitted it happened I& also lied about reporting it. | |||
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" It amazes me how some folk are willing to destroy someone with very little actual proof. The cps dropped the case due to not enough evidence to secure a conviction so a civil case was sought there is a massive difference in these systems one deals in fact the other deals with well its plausible. What ever happened to innocent until proven guilty? It's trial by media these days to many willing to destroy a life on others words alone What ever happened to innocent until proven guilty? He was never found guilty as no criminal case was ever attempted he was found liable in a civil case where the gain is money nothing more!! It's trial by public opinion these days with many folk believing well I think he/she is guilty so chop of his/her head." Kevin spacey | |||
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" Glw Utd put Aitken back in her box with their statement. And again, the convictions are on BOYS club staff. Current case has to prove the FOOtTBALL club was linked, and that’s where they’re struggling. But across the city hey won’t have that issue when ithkse claims hit court as club admitted it happened I& also lied about reporting it." Your whataboutery is disgusting. These were children at all clubs in Scottish football and you are more interested in point scoring. All children that suffered deserve apologies, compensation and justice. A full public inquiry is the best way forward for this yet the SG continuously refuse but feel the need to get involved here. | |||
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"Jo matter what as a parent of a young boy who follows football i dont want him to see someone who has had such serious accusations against them playing in a team. These players are supposed to be role models to our kids. I dont agree that just for his talent and wealth Ronaldo's career wasnt halted. Anyine who has had this sort of accusation shoule not be in public eye, anyone no matter wealth, talent or anything else. Agree anyone arrested or suspected of this crime should be kept anonymous until proven in court of law. As for female if she was d*unk she wasnt able to give consent & as mature guys shouldnt have touched her. Same at clubsnif some single females are too d*unk i always worry about them playing and regret or not remember nxt day. Its a scary world. " What team does he follow? Most teams have someone who has been accused or convicted of a crime. Look at tonight for example, there’s a testimonial game for someone who has a conviction for exposing themselves. I haven’t seen any public outcry regarding it | |||
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"A think u will find said players testimonials Was let go no further charges Again another false accusation against someone And just like a certain retired keeper accusations of another team set free" Exactly!!! What about Gazza?……. Smashed his mrs up real bad……. He’s still in the public eye and nothing get said about it! Seems like DG is being targeted based on the civil courts “opinion” of “ he probably done it”…….and he’s not famous or high profile enough for the media to leave him alone | |||
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"Thoughts folks Witch-hunt or deserves all he gets? He’s not been found guilty of anything. What I don’t understand is how he played for Clyde with no issues now there’s a problem. There’s a bigger sex abuse scandal in Scottish football, where people have been convicted, that the SNP won’t address yet they can make statements about Goodwillie. They dont want to upset thier core vote , so they are will8ng to let over 60 odd convictions at the one club go unchallenged Its a disgrace ." Dont try to be so staunch, there was child abuse at many clubs in scotland not just the one your salivating over. Not just football clubs lots of organisations where people had power over young people | |||
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"Thoughts folks Witch-hunt or deserves all he gets? He’s not been found guilty of anything. What I don’t understand is how he played for Clyde with no issues now there’s a problem. There’s a bigger sex abuse scandal in Scottish football, where people have been convicted, that the SNP won’t address yet they can make statements about Goodwillie. They dont want to upset thier core vote , so they are will8ng to let over 60 odd convictions at the one club go unchallenged Its a disgrace . Dont try to be so staunch, there was child abuse at many clubs in scotland not just the one your salivating over. Not just football clubs lots of organisations where people had power over young people" | |||
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"Thoughts folks Witch-hunt or deserves all he gets? He’s not been found guilty of anything. What I don’t understand is how he played for Clyde with no issues now there’s a problem. There’s a bigger sex abuse scandal in Scottish football, where people have been convicted, that the SNP won’t address yet they can make statements about Goodwillie. They dont want to upset thier core vote , so they are will8ng to let over 60 odd convictions at the one club go unchallenged Its a disgrace . Meanwhile across the city they tell their CSA victims to contact the Liquidators as its a diffrent club. BTW, its a BOYS club who's staff have had the convitions your referring to. I think you’ll find the reason for it is because it’s the insurance that would be paying out therefore as it’s a difference company they have no control over that issue. There was also no conviction regarding it so it would have to proved. However if the person did suffer abuse then they have every right to compensation and an apology. As I said if the scottish government and local councils want to get involved in the Goodwillie incident then they should definitely be holding public inquiries where there has been 9 convictions at one club. Glasgow city council might want to look at their cheap land deals again since they have set a precedent with glasgow united " Staunch, disgusts me the way fans from the team you quite obviouslly support make out they feel bad for the victims of child abuse yet when ive been in the away end of your ground ive literally seen grown adults sing about it with glee even while mimicking the actions of having sex all of this while young weans are all around. Its grotesque | |||
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