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By *vcarol OP   TV/TS
over a year ago

kilmarnockish

Yesterday this bill passed the first hurdle in the Scottish parliament.

For me and a good few others this is a major step forward, chiefly in the fact that the waiting list on the referral to the various gender clinics will be removed.

To give you an idea, this is a referral from the doctor to be seen by a specialist who has to confirm your status. This list currently is over five years - in reality it’s probably more like seven if you joined it today.

Whilst it’s not perfect, it’s got a fair bit to go and will be changed considerably before it gets passed, and I don’t agree with some of its points it is a major step forward.

One thing to add, part of the bill states that anyone who uses this bill as an attempt to invade women’s spaces for an attempt for sexual purposes is a criminal offence.

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By *oShrinkingVioletWoman
over a year ago

the land of unicorns and fairytales

It’s an amazing step forward xx good luck going forward missy xx

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By *melia DominaTV/TS
over a year ago

Edinburgh (She/Her)

This one of the many reasons why I love this country so much.

Forward thinking,forward doing...

Try passing a bill like this through Westminster.....

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By *ald EagleMan
over a year ago

Alloa

The Bill, whilst a decent idea, overlooks the concerns of other groups regards to ensuring there are no persons looking to exploit the new guidelines for their own predatory needs.

It also faces numerous other hurdles which may put these safeguards in place and put it halfway between the current law and the new proposals.

In addition it may fail its final hurdle in UKSC as, seen elsewhere, a person would be able to identify as 1 gender in Brechin and have to identify as their birth gender in Carlisle. Different legal systems.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

https://www.scotsman.com/news/opinion/columnists/consider-the-evidence-on-gender-dysphoria-dr-anthony-latham-dr-anne-williams-dr-calum-mackellar-and-dr-angus-mckellar-3891714

The Scottish Government have completely disregarded the advice of a large part of the medical community who have concerns about vulnerable people (mainly young people) or others with co-morbidities embarking on life altering decisions involving medication and surgeries. There are a growing number of detransitioners who are now speaking up and explaining that their desire to change gender was the cause of another underlying issue and they did not receive the appropriate support. How will making the process even easier and removing medical intervention improve this?

Predatory men, by their very nature, will abuse and look for any loophole in order to gain access to a woman's single sex space and children. Historically, we've had men become priests, teachers, sports coaches etc in order to abuse a position of power. If people can self-id how will this be monitored in real terms? When will we know that a man has used this for nefarious reasons? When a woman is sexually assaulted in a changing room, a refuge centre or a prison? When a woman is videod by a voyeur without her consent in a single sex space?

With regards to prisons, the number of transgender prisoners has increased by a third in only a quarter in 2022. Does this mean transgender people are disproportionately violent? Or (more likely) does it mean men are claiming to be women in order to get, at the very least, any easier time in a women's jail? I'd argue it's the latter. And this demonstrates how men are already playing the system before we've made it even easier for them.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.scottishdailyexpress.co.uk/news/scottish-news/number-transgender-prisoners-scotland-up-27810225.amp

What about vulnerable women who require intimate personal care? Should they be able to access this and be assured that it will be provided by a woman and not a transwoman? In my work I encounter severely disabled women. One in particular has trouble communicating because of her disability and has limited English. She is also Muslim. Should she be assured personal care is given by a woman without fear of her or her family being called transphobic?

Should I be able to request that any intimate examinations or personal care is carried out by a woman and not a transwoman?

I am aware that certain parts of the Equality Act are supposed to allow employers to state that certain roles are only open to women. But in the current climate and with the fear of being labelled transphobic or a bigot, many employers are bending the roles to be more accommodating to their staff. And women are suffering as a consequence.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2022/10/22/hospital-refuses-treat-patient-who-asked-all-female-nursing/

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By *alcon43Woman
over a year ago

Paisley

My understanding of the reform is that the waiting times will be aligned with current NHS guidelines. The waiting list is not being abolished. In Scotland there are only 4 health boards with gender identity clinics.

No gender reassignment surgery is currently carried out in Scotland. It’s all done in England which means that there will still be a waiting list. Discussions are being held to carry out operations in Scotland but surgeons will still need to be trained in the procedures and discussions are being held with NHS Education which covers the four nations. There are only about 12 surgeons in the UK who carry out gender reassignment surgery.

Whilst the legislation is a huge step forward, there is still a long way to go before waiting times and surgeries in Scotland actually happen. There is a huge gap in the expertise of surgeons for many procedures, not just gender reassignment, that needs to be addressed.

From experience for a different medical issue, the SNP are all talk and don’t always deliver. There’s a shortage of trained staff to remove mesh and do repairs for Gynae issues and little has been done to address this issue.

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By *uietbloke67Man
over a year ago

outside your bedroom window ;-)

Best of luck to you pal and I honestly do hope you have the best life possible.

I just think (and it is only my thoughts) this is open to abuse by predatory men. Yip it is sad we have to take that into account but it is also very true.

For me there needs to be a third space.

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