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"Against... Just discussing this just now. He needs it to be able to go to the football, I don't because I work there! Makes absolutely no sense K" Thats what i dont get, fans have to have a passport but if u work there or volunteer there ur ok | |||
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"We are against it. Do private member clubs need to follow the same rules? " Says on cjs page covid passport must be shown | |||
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"We are against it. Do private member clubs need to follow the same rules? Says on cjs page covid passport must be shown" Is that by the government ruling like big public venue. Or the clubs choice to enforce it as they are a private club. Just wondering lol x | |||
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"We are against it. Do private member clubs need to follow the same rules? Says on cjs page covid passport must be shown Is that by the government ruling like big public venue. Or the clubs choice to enforce it as they are a private club. Just wondering lol x" It says they're required for Nightclubs. Missed all the news about the Passports today, so playing catchup. | |||
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"If it gets me into Tynecastle I'm all for it." Where will it end though ? What if next they want national ID cards where you need to scan yourself into every place you go before entry. Shops , clubs, leisure centres with your government ID card. Slippery slope in my opinion. | |||
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"If it gets me into Tynecastle I'm all for it. Where will it end though ? What if next they want national ID cards where you need to scan yourself into every place you go before entry. Shops , clubs, leisure centres with your government ID card. Slippery slope in my opinion. " Exactly slippery slope is only going too get worse | |||
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"100% in favour. Encourages people to get vaccinated Hopefully takes pressure off the NHS Reduces the need for further lockdowns Allows pubs, gig venues, restaurants and sports events to accommodate people Saves lives. " You spelt forces wrong John | |||
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"We are against it. Do private member clubs need to follow the same rules? Says on cjs page covid passport must be shown Is that by the government ruling like big public venue. Or the clubs choice to enforce it as they are a private club. Just wondering lol x" Government guidelines. Clearly states sexual venues. We are finding other ways to meet others as will not be able to go to CJs until this changes. Glasgow at the weekend anyone? | |||
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"We are against it. Do private member clubs need to follow the same rules? Says on cjs page covid passport must be shown Is that by the government ruling like big public venue. Or the clubs choice to enforce it as they are a private club. Just wondering lol x Government guidelines. Clearly states sexual venues. We are finding other ways to meet others as will not be able to go to CJs until this changes. Glasgow at the weekend anyone? " Doh sexual entertainment venues. All about that entertainment | |||
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"If it gets me into Tynecastle I'm all for it. Where will it end though ? What if next they want national ID cards where you need to scan yourself into every place you go before entry. Shops , clubs, leisure centres with your government ID card. Slippery slope in my opinion. " Absolute balls: there’s no such thing as being under the radar these days , we are every single one of us identified by almost every function we carry out on our little screens every day. Cracks me up all the bleating about this. We were thinking of going to CJs in the near future but probs won’t now. Not because we feel our civil liberties being undermined but just cause I can’t be arsed going to the bother of having to prove this , that or whatever | |||
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"I have mine already downloaded. All the fake uproar about being monitored etc is just stupid. Every time you go somewhere with your phone in your pocket you can be tracked. I also think (im generalizing so don't all take offence) that anyone who wants "to go under the radar" must have something to hide. If a covid passport is required to get to the places I need to go then I'll take your ticket when you can't go. Thanks muchly. " Saw a statement on Facebook debating the things people are anti about the vaccines. Yes there is no proof about long term effects of it, and that will always be debated, but the people that think it's all about tracking and control don't seem to realise that there are easier ways for them to be tracked including their phones, the SIMs in them and the rants they put on social media. I appreciate all views on the vaccines as everyone is entitled to one, but I have a conspiracy theorist friend who is normally VERY strongly anti vaccines, but even they have got the Covid ones, because they got hit hard by it. And yes he did say he was targeted because of his anti-vac stance | |||
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"Happy to be vaccinated. Happy to have my Covid passport. Some people love to make everything into such a hoo-ha. " Me too, I like a simple life too | |||
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"Happy to be vaccinated. Happy to have my Covid passport. Some people love to make everything into such a hoo-ha. " I’m the same but I find it all a bit of a joke tbh | |||
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"Higher a car - show your driving license with home address and date of birth Buy something on credit - allow a credit check to be carried out Show Covid passport - no private organisation needs to know my medical records The vaccine “passport” is a QR code the says if you’re vaccinated or not. If you don’t want to show one then don’t go to events or venues that require them, do you complain that you can’t higher a car due to no driving license or get the new iPhone because of poor credit?" Such a good point. As far as I'm aware a Covid passport doesn't show anything about one's fungal toes infections or haemorrhoids. | |||
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"Higher a car - show your driving license with home address and date of birth Buy something on credit - allow a credit check to be carried out Show Covid passport - no private organisation needs to know my medical records The vaccine “passport” is a QR code the says if you’re vaccinated or not. If you don’t want to show one then don’t go to events or venues that require them, do you complain that you can’t higher a car due to no driving license or get the new iPhone because of poor credit?" It's nothing to do with conspiracy theories or similar. I see covid passports as a first step before national ID cards. Basically a way for the government to fleece more money out of us as its certainly going to cost us money to renew those ID cards every 5 or 10 years. The driving licence is the perfect example. I won't be changing my paper licence into a photo card licence just so the government can charge me every year to renew , fuck that nonsense. | |||
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"Higher a car - show your driving license with home address and date of birth Buy something on credit - allow a credit check to be carried out Show Covid passport - no private organisation needs to know my medical records The vaccine “passport” is a QR code the says if you’re vaccinated or not. If you don’t want to show one then don’t go to events or venues that require them, do you complain that you can’t higher a car due to no driving license or get the new iPhone because of poor credit? It's nothing to do with conspiracy theories or similar. I see covid passports as a first step before national ID cards. Basically a way for the government to fleece more money out of us as its certainly going to cost us money to renew those ID cards every 5 or 10 years. The driving licence is the perfect example. I won't be changing my paper licence into a photo card licence just so the government can charge me every year to renew , fuck that nonsense. " Every 10 years for renewal oops. | |||
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"Higher a car - show your driving license with home address and date of birth Buy something on credit - allow a credit check to be carried out Show Covid passport - no private organisation needs to know my medical records The vaccine “passport” is a QR code the says if you’re vaccinated or not. If you don’t want to show one then don’t go to events or venues that require them, do you complain that you can’t higher a car due to no driving license or get the new iPhone because of poor credit? It's nothing to do with conspiracy theories or similar. I see covid passports as a first step before national ID cards. Basically a way for the government to fleece more money out of us as its certainly going to cost us money to renew those ID cards every 5 or 10 years. The driving licence is the perfect example. I won't be changing my paper licence into a photo card licence just so the government can charge me every year to renew , fuck that nonsense. " Hate to admit I agree with you....but I don't disagree with you | |||
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"The implementation of a Covid passport will only create a further divide and a two teir society in the country. No one needs to disclose who they voted for in elections, so why should anyone have to disclose if they have chosen to have the Covid vaccine before they can enter a football stadium a concert or a night time entertainment venue? " Because sometimes the rules of life change We can either accept that and change with them, or refuse and accept that we made the choice to accept the consequences of that | |||
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"The implementation of a Covid passport will only create a further divide and a two teir society in the country. No one needs to disclose who they voted for in elections, so why should anyone have to disclose if they have chosen to have the Covid vaccine before they can enter a football stadium a concert or a night time entertainment venue? Because sometimes the rules of life change We can either accept that and change with them, or refuse and accept that we made the choice to accept the consequences of that " The rules of life never change ?? Your born , you need certain things to stay alive then inevitable we all die . We are talking our liberties and freedoms being abused by a few power hungry politicians out to make names for themselves at the expenses of others. Think there's a bit of difference there. | |||
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"The implementation of a Covid passport will only create a further divide and a two teir society in the country. No one needs to disclose who they voted for in elections, so why should anyone have to disclose if they have chosen to have the Covid vaccine before they can enter a football stadium a concert or a night time entertainment venue? " Is it because who you voted for does not have an immediate affect on the health of your nieghbour....just a thought? Personally doesnt bother me, and for all the Freedom fighters out there, bin your phone, never buy of the web, discontect your satnav, don't log into any websites and stay out of dense populated areas or areas of a high security. Then you might, just might stay off the radar. Just dont involve me or fight a fight on my behalf. | |||
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"The implementation of a Covid passport will only create a further divide and a two teir society in the country. No one needs to disclose who they voted for in elections, so why should anyone have to disclose if they have chosen to have the Covid vaccine before they can enter a football stadium a concert or a night time entertainment venue? Because sometimes the rules of life change We can either accept that and change with them, or refuse and accept that we made the choice to accept the consequences of that The rules of life never change ?? Your born , you need certain things to stay alive then inevitable we all die . We are talking our liberties and freedoms being abused by a few power hungry politicians out to make names for themselves at the expenses of others. Think there's a bit of difference there. " What liberties and freedoms are being abused as a result of being denied entry to a nightclub or swingers club? | |||
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"If it gets me into Tynecastle I'm all for it." Well said that man | |||
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"The implementation of a Covid passport will only create a further divide and a two teir society in the country. No one needs to disclose who they voted for in elections, so why should anyone have to disclose if they have chosen to have the Covid vaccine before they can enter a football stadium a concert or a night time entertainment venue? Because sometimes the rules of life change We can either accept that and change with them, or refuse and accept that we made the choice to accept the consequences of that The rules of life never change ?? Your born , you need certain things to stay alive then inevitable we all die . We are talking our liberties and freedoms being abused by a few power hungry politicians out to make names for themselves at the expenses of others. Think there's a bit of difference there. What liberties and freedoms are being abused as a result of being denied entry to a nightclub or swingers club?" My freedom of choice for a start. I chose not to get a photo driving licence and the need to pay renewal fees every 10 years , it never stopped me driving into other towns. With covid passports it's being forced upon me with consequences if I don't comply. | |||
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" With covid passports it's being forced upon me with consequences if I don't comply. " Aww diddums All choices have consequences | |||
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" With covid passports it's being forced upon me with consequences if I don't comply. Aww diddums All choices have consequences " Aww diddums There was once a German chancellor that imposed his will on people too, enforced the carrying of specific documentation on certain people too , those peoples choices also had consequences. | |||
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"The implementation of a Covid passport will only create a further divide and a two teir society in the country. No one needs to disclose who they voted for in elections, so why should anyone have to disclose if they have chosen to have the Covid vaccine before they can enter a football stadium a concert or a night time entertainment venue? Because sometimes the rules of life change We can either accept that and change with them, or refuse and accept that we made the choice to accept the consequences of that The rules of life never change ?? Your born , you need certain things to stay alive then inevitable we all die . We are talking our liberties and freedoms being abused by a few power hungry politicians out to make names for themselves at the expenses of others. Think there's a bit of difference there. What liberties and freedoms are being abused as a result of being denied entry to a nightclub or swingers club? My freedom of choice for a start. I chose not to get a photo driving licence and the need to pay renewal fees every 10 years , it never stopped me driving into other towns. With covid passports it's being forced upon me with consequences if I don't comply. " Are the details on your paper licence still correct? Address? If not you are breaking the law. Also you are breaking the law having only a paper licence UNLESS of course it was issued before 2000. Which going on your age is possible. | |||
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" With covid passports it's being forced upon me with consequences if I don't comply. Aww diddums All choices have consequences Aww diddums There was once a German chancellor that imposed his will on people too, enforced the carrying of specific documentation on certain people too , those peoples choices also had consequences. " And there is the Nazi Germany reference...Im sure there is a graph going about | |||
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" With covid passports it's being forced upon me with consequences if I don't comply. Aww diddums All choices have consequences Aww diddums There was once a German chancellor that imposed his will on people too, enforced the carrying of specific documentation on certain people too , those peoples choices also had consequences. " Is that the ones with the high gas bill you mentioned in another thread . | |||
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"The implementation of a Covid passport will only create a further divide and a two teir society in the country. No one needs to disclose who they voted for in elections, so why should anyone have to disclose if they have chosen to have the Covid vaccine before they can enter a football stadium a concert or a night time entertainment venue? Because sometimes the rules of life change We can either accept that and change with them, or refuse and accept that we made the choice to accept the consequences of that The rules of life never change ?? Your born , you need certain things to stay alive then inevitable we all die . We are talking our liberties and freedoms being abused by a few power hungry politicians out to make names for themselves at the expenses of others. Think there's a bit of difference there. What liberties and freedoms are being abused as a result of being denied entry to a nightclub or swingers club? My freedom of choice for a start. I chose not to get a photo driving licence and the need to pay renewal fees every 10 years , it never stopped me driving into other towns. With covid passports it's being forced upon me with consequences if I don't comply. Are the details on your paper licence still correct? Address? If not you are breaking the law. Also you are breaking the law having only a paper licence UNLESS of course it was issued before 2000. Which going on your age is possible. " Yes my paper licence is very much valid. | |||
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" With covid passports it's being forced upon me with consequences if I don't comply. Aww diddums All choices have consequences Aww diddums There was once a German chancellor that imposed his will on people too, enforced the carrying of specific documentation on certain people too , those peoples choices also had consequences. Is that the ones with the high gas bill you mentioned in another thread . " Having a warped sense of humour is one thing, ending up in similar circumstances is different. Ps , have you noticed how much gas prices have risen lately. History could be repeating itself right enough. | |||
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"Very strongly against. The first step on to the slippery slope towards a Chinese style Social Credit Score system. Governments do not like giving up powers once they have them and believe me, those in power would absolutely LOVE to introduce such a system if they thought they could get away with it. Scary thing is that they just might get away with it, and not because of any great public appetite for it. But because hardly anyone appears to be paying any attention to what's going on. Although this pandemic appears to have brought out quite the authoritarian streak in some people. They would probably think that it's a great idea . Also and regardless of all of that, purely on an administrative level it be a nightmare to facilitate. I don't know what everyone thinks about the Kaiser Chiefs and their bizarre recent "wash your hands and give thanks to the great Pfizer" routine, but I'll tell you this. They predicted a riot, but I predict an absolute fucking SHIT SHOW when this goes live and it will end up being ditched after proving itself beyond all reasonable doubt to be unworkable, neverming it being ineffective and a total over reach of Government powers in the first place. " I’m confused! Which is it? The government once it has this power over us will never give it up. Or once it introduced the government will quickly ditch it? | |||
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" The vaccine isn't mandatory. " Neither is going to gigs, football matches, nightclubs or swingers clubs | |||
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" The vaccine isn't mandatory. Neither is going to gigs, football matches, nightclubs or swingers clubs" It's option, you can if you want and that's how it should remain. Having a vaccine passport doesn't mean you don't have covid, I'd rather have people so PCR tests before being allowed in but only if they were more reliable Is it illegal to fake vaccine passports? John | |||
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"What worried me was how I get a photo of my virus for the passport lol" iPhone 13 should be able to do that. According to certain people and adverts it can do EVERYTHING else. | |||
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" With covid passports it's being forced upon me with consequences if I don't comply. Aww diddums All choices have consequences Aww diddums There was once a German chancellor that imposed his will on people too, enforced the carrying of specific documentation on certain people too , those peoples choices also had consequences. " I do love seeing Godwin's law in practise | |||
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"I do love seeing Godwin's law in practise " Never heard of this one before, so thank you. Love the quote; "whoever invokes Godwin's Law has lost the argument" | |||
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"For or against or indifferent. For me if its required I won't be entering "simples" Private companies and organisations have no right to my medical info. " Not opposed to it if it gets things open and moving, but agree that private companies/organisations dont need my personal information. It should be kept 'in house ' with the NHS. It cant be that difficult for them to give you a certificate or an app or something confirming vacation. Just something else we have managed to make an arse of. | |||
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"What worried me was how I get a photo of my virus for the passport lol" Was it smiling or wearing glasses? | |||
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"I’m against the passport. For the vaccine but not the passport. For many reason which people here have said. but also it’s almost guaranteed that it gets hacked and people that will have been places they don’t want others to know about will get published. " That's a really heavy dose of paranoia. Where do you suppose these details are gonna be published? | |||
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"I’m against the passport. For the vaccine but not the passport. For many reason which people here have said. but also it’s almost guaranteed that it gets hacked and people that will have been places they don’t want others to know about will get published. That's a really heavy dose of paranoia. Where do you suppose these details are gonna be published?" Haha yeah, you’re probably right but still, information gets leaked online all the time. I’ll just continue doing my thing - working like f@#k cause there’s no staff lol. And trying to fix up my flat | |||
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"I don’t really care if we need to have a covid passport or not, if it makes my life that little bit easier then fine. Same with the vaccines. I like a drama free life. I’ve found the whole pandemic process to really highlight peoples IQ, here is the bit I hope some of you will bite at because the points above are laughable. There’s been references to nazi Germany which are that wide of the mark you deserve a forum ban and ones about how it’s being forced upon you and you aren’t willing to comply yet, here are things that you do comply with willingly and fail to question question : Pay your council tax Have to be certain ages to see certain films at the cinema Put your bins out on specific days or they don’t get taken Pay road tax for the car, MOT the car Drive on one side of the road Stop at red lights Go at green lights Pay to park your car Wait in queues to pay for things at the shops. Actually pay for things in shops Wear a facemask to enter the fucking shop Only have access to said shop when it is open, how inconvenient Wear clothes Pay money for clothes Get a job to earn that money for those clothes Pay tax on that money that you have worked for Use that taxed money to buy food so you can stay alive Actually be alive… Need i go on? You comply with much more things in life that you fail to question, if you want to rebel, why not put that energy into something that matters? The fight against racism? Inequality? Poverty? Or just you know, carry on crying online about something you aren’t going to change…and will ‘comply’ with anyway " while I sort of agree on sheeples compliance. none of these require invasive intervention or disclosure of medical records. | |||
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" while I sort of agree on sheeples compliance. none of these require invasive intervention or disclosure of medical records. " Neither does a QR code that is a yes or no tick with regards to ‘has this person been vaccinated?’ and that my friend is where the lack of IQ comes into question. The drivers license youl flap about as ID contains more personal details…but that won’t fit your narrative huh | |||
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"I don’t really care if we need to have a covid passport or not, if it makes my life that little bit easier then fine. Same with the vaccines. I like a drama free life. I’ve found the whole pandemic process to really highlight peoples IQ, here is the bit I hope some of you will bite at because the points above are laughable. There’s been references to nazi Germany which are that wide of the mark you deserve a forum ban and ones about how it’s being forced upon you and you aren’t willing to comply yet, here are things that you do comply with willingly and fail to question question : Pay your council tax Have to be certain ages to see certain films at the cinema Put your bins out on specific days or they don’t get taken Pay road tax for the car, MOT the car Drive on one side of the road Stop at red lights Go at green lights Pay to park your car Wait in queues to pay for things at the shops. Actually pay for things in shops Wear a facemask to enter the fucking shop Only have access to said shop when it is open, how inconvenient Wear clothes Pay money for clothes Get a job to earn that money for those clothes Pay tax on that money that you have worked for Use that taxed money to buy food so you can stay alive Actually be alive… Need i go on? You comply with much more things in life that you fail to question, if you want to rebel, why not put that energy into something that matters? The fight against racism? Inequality? Poverty? Or just you know, carry on crying online about something you aren’t going to change…and will ‘comply’ with anyway " I read that in the style of Renton in Trainspotting when he did his "Choose Life" speech. | |||
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" while I sort of agree on sheeples compliance. none of these require invasive intervention or disclosure of medical records. Neither does a QR code that is a yes or no tick with regards to ‘has this person been vaccinated?’ and that my friend is where the lack of IQ comes into question. The drivers license youl flap about as ID contains more personal details…but that won’t fit your narrative huh " lol I flap nothing around. the only reason to show a covid passport would be to say you have received it you don't get one to say you have not so my point stands | |||
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" while I sort of agree on sheeples compliance. none of these require invasive intervention or disclosure of medical records. Neither does a QR code that is a yes or no tick with regards to ‘has this person been vaccinated?’ and that my friend is where the lack of IQ comes into question. The drivers license youl flap about as ID contains more personal details…but that won’t fit your narrative huh lol I flap nothing around. the only reason to show a covid passport would be to say you have received it you don't get one to say you have not so my point stands " Lemme just get this straight, just so I can fully understand the point, which you have actually failed to make, that you dislike about covid passports. You feel a covid passport is disclosing your medical records and you find that displaying that you have had two small vaccines is intrusive? How on earth did you get through school? Please, go back, finish it, it will be beneficial. Youl be one of these guys that refuses to bring condoms as that’s the woman’s job to stop herself getting pregnant eh… My point, which has been fully validated by your mince replies, was that those who throw up the big hoo-ha about conspiracy theories, government control and privacy claims with regards to the covid pandemic vaccine & passports are of a concerning low level of IQ. Thank you for helping me today. I shan’t be replying to you further. | |||
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