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"Individuals believe what they want to believe. As a carbon based life form. We are just a bundle of energy that burns like a log in the fire. That energy has to go somewhere. Is it just random energy or is it a thinking energy (a soul)... Science only sees what it knows or has discovered. Some feel energy around them. A presence if you like. Has science still to catch up... " I’m with this thought. Everything tangible is “recycled”, whether you are a star or a starfish, a planet or a person, any physical “body” decays and feeds new life. Could whatever our consciousness is also be the same? I have a healthy sceptic on my shoulder in regard to the topic but even scientists agree there is much they cannot explain. Quantum physics is discovering that the universe is much more interconnected than once thought e.g. dark matter and so on. It’s a fascinating topic. | |||
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"I hope there's something. I don't know what, however it gives me comfort to think that people who pass are still around us (and reunited with each other) " This | |||
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"When I was younger and went to the chapel of rest to see my grandfather after his death, I instantly felt there was no reason for me to stay in the room. His body was there but his consciousness was not. As energy cannot be created or destroyed- it can only be changed. I understand that his energy must have changed or went elsewhere. Great post absolutely believe this too... you just articulate it way better than I could lol x If we took a person apart atom by atom, would we find an energy source that makes up their consciousness - that is that unique person? Therefore, I have concluded that we resonate with an energy that in its make up is unique to us, but us essentially just part of the total energy in the universe. When we die that energy is dissipated back into the universe and recycled. This leads me to think we are energy connected to all things within our universe and therefore we are all connected. We are simply energy in a particular pattern or sequence... which makes us ‘unique’ for as long as we are alive. As the energy is recycled within the universe the next sequence or pattern will be unique to that person. I’m pretty sure due to the total amount of energy in the universe and it ever changing there is an infinite amount of sequences so every person will always have a unique energy signature while they are alive. I could be talking utter nonsense though. That’s the best but, we don’t have the answers - yet! " | |||
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"When I was younger and went to the chapel of rest to see my grandfather after his death, I instantly felt there was no reason for me to stay in the room. His body was there but his consciousness was not. As energy cannot be created or destroyed- it can only be changed. I understand that his energy must have changed or went elsewhere. If we took a person apart atom by atom, would we find an energy source that makes up their consciousness - that is that unique person? Therefore, I have concluded that we resonate with an energy that in its make up is unique to us, but us essentially just part of the total energy in the universe. When we die that energy is dissipated back into the universe and recycled. This leads me to think we are energy connected to all things within our universe and therefore we are all connected. We are simply energy in a particular pattern or sequence... which makes us ‘unique’ for as long as we are alive. As the energy is recycled within the universe the next sequence or pattern will be unique to that person. I’m pretty sure due to the total amount of energy in the universe and it ever changing there is an infinite amount of sequences so every person will always have a unique energy signature while they are alive. I could be talking utter nonsense though. That’s the best but, we don’t have the answers - yet! " Eloquently put | |||
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"Eloquently put " Thanks I guess I just lived up to my name a bit there I do think about things like this, and think about how we fit into the world. We are each special and unique- yet a speck of inconsequential energy laden dust within a vast universe of infinite energy. It makes me feel special and in awe but at the same time knowing my time is so very short and precious so I best spend it being kind and loving and doing the things that make me happy. | |||
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"Eloquently put Thanks I guess I just lived up to my name a bit there I do think about things like this, and think about how we fit into the world. We are each special and unique- yet a speck of inconsequential energy laden dust within a vast universe of infinite energy. It makes me feel special and in awe but at the same time knowing my time is so very short and precious so I best spend it being kind and loving and doing the things that make me happy. " You’re welcome . I agree too, that humans are both special yet at the same time a small cog in the vastness of existence. We are both the most creative yet destructive of species. One could argue that is the very nature of life itself though. If there’s a meaning to life I like to think it’s as you aspire to live it, to always strive to be better. We may be a small thread in the weft and weave of the cosmos but when human beings are being human positively, they are a breathtakingly clever species. Where the consciousness/soul/spirit exists within us, what that is and if continues after physical death is something science is not as close minded about as it used to be and agree with other theories here on how that might be explained. | |||
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"I agree with Will... "There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, than are dreamt of in your philosophy." " Well summed up my dear | |||
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"I agree with Will... "There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, than are dreamt of in your philosophy." " Is that Will Smith or Will.i.am | |||
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"I see a lot of speculating here but no proof. " I think that was what the OP asked for... speculation, thoughts and opinions. | |||
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"To live is to die, absolute at some point in time. Only if we prepared to die better, whenever it happens gracefully, like we prepare for the birth, much human existence will be blissful. Being ready for the destination every time one breathes is a true preparation for the graceful death. " Dark and deep.... an interesting point too... What if the light we see at the end of the tunnel is just us being pushed out of another vagina | |||
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"Firstly, My Condolences to the OP. Secondly I was clinically dead for over 2 minutes after an RTA and the first I knew about it was when I woke up 6 days later. No bright lights or floating sensations. So I firmly believe when we do expire that's the end nothing else. I do believe that the power of the brain can plant very strong suggestions in some people and make them believe other things however." Ah but if you were meant to stay you wouldn't be privy to this info as Thoth said "its not knowledge for mortals" | |||
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"I sometimes wonder if there’s also a before life too . Weird I know . " Not really, if you believe in an afterlife, it makes sense to believe in a 'prelife' after a soul has to come from somewhere... Pixar's latest film 'soul' explores this theorem | |||
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"I sometimes wonder if there’s also a before life too . Weird I know . Not really, if you believe in an afterlife, it makes sense to believe in a 'prelife' after a soul has to come from somewhere... Pixar's latest film 'soul' explores this theorem " That is a fabulous movie! My previous light comment was half serious whole earnest in the respect of a humorous observation on the cycle of life. Humans will always ponder the meaning of life, there is way more to express than what can be said here but some really profound comments reflecting the complexity of a very deep subject | |||
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"This is one of my favourite subjects.. I’ve watched a lot of NDE videos and read some stuff on it and I truly believe now there is an altered state of consciousness that transcends to a different plane/dimension. There are reported to be around 5% of the world’s population that have had NDE’s so that’s a lot of people! Obviously science can’t explain this yet however it’s very interesting.. " Fingers crossed I come back as a pair of your knickers | |||
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"To live is to die, absolute at some point in time. Only if we prepared to die better, whenever it happens gracefully, like we prepare for the birth, much human existence will be blissful. Being ready for the destination every time one breathes is a true preparation for the graceful death. Dark and deep.... an interesting point too... What if the light we see at the end of the tunnel is just us being pushed out of another vagina " Might mean that one hasn't wronged abnormally so as to take a human life again, and that the next level experience is expedited, appropriated for journey thereafter or getting closer to "mukti" from the cycles. | |||
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"If there is an afterlife with all those who have died before surely its overcrowded? " That’s one of my problems with a religious view | |||
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"If there is an afterlife with all those who have died before surely its overcrowded? That’s one of my problems with a religious view " another one that puts a spanner in the works.... Ain't it amazing how we are all born in the country of the one true god who can supply this glorious afterlife at the expense of our time on this mound | |||
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"If there is an afterlife with all those who have died before surely its overcrowded? That’s one of my problems with a religious view another one that puts a spanner in the works.... Ain't it amazing how we are all born in the country of the one true god who can supply this glorious afterlife at the expense of our time on this mound " If you go back far enough there’s a lot of speculation on that simultaneous realisation in many cultures. Fascinating and extremely complex subject | |||
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"If there is an afterlife with all those who have died before surely its overcrowded? That’s one of my problems with a religious view another one that puts a spanner in the works.... Ain't it amazing how we are all born in the country of the one true god who can supply this glorious afterlife at the expense of our time on this mound If you go back far enough there’s a lot of speculation on that simultaneous realisation in many cultures. Fascinating and extremely complex subject " the world is full of mysteries and never answered questions check out the in a monuments and where the material comes from that's a serious head scratcher that the boffins even admit would be impossible in our time let alone in what was at best a bronze age | |||
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"Inca " Yep, the babylonians, Mesopotamians and the Egyptians too. The “Sun” or Son” ties to seasons and pagan worship... faith, time and myth leave us with may mysteries | |||
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"If there is an afterlife with all those who have died before surely its overcrowded? " Imagine that. You lead an exemplary life full of charitable works and good deeds...get to the other side, and can't even get a bloody seat! | |||
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"Inca Yep, the babylonians, Mesopotamians and the Egyptians too. The “Sun” or Son” ties to seasons and pagan worship... faith, time and myth leave us with may mysteries " | |||
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