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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

Am I the only person who is instantly put off from corresponding with people on here due to a lack of vocabulary skills? Either on the profile or indeed in an initial message? I mean is the English language dying a death? Should we alert the education board to their blatant inability to provide the people of this fine country with a basic understanding of spelling and grammar?

I put the question to you... Do you find bad spelling or indeed grammar, a turn on/turn off or just couldn't care less?

Leave your message after the tone........BEEP!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If this bothered me I wouldn't meet myself.... I am crap at spelling.... Crap with vocabulary....but I am proud to be me....

I may not have intellect... Good vocabulary etc.... But I have common sence and an open mind.....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It trips me up at times, only that.

Dont know other peoples circs or reasons contributing to it.

Met people on here from diffrent countrys for example, with limited english, yet they turn out to be charming fun people.

I get stuck on the spelling of certain words, discrete/discreet,, exhibitionism/exibisionism, exh,,,,, lol

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

Yes but both of you manage to construct a sentence, with grammar and we all have words we struggle to spell... My frustration stems from those with opening gambits like...

'howz u 2day up2 nething l8r or fancy a chat'

It just took me 5 minutes to construct that babble of pish! Would take an age to decipher a chat where the other person was fluent in pish!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Doesn't bother me in the slightest.... It's just the way people type... A fashion thing....

I look past all that.....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

i must admit to struggling to read 'text speak' so if i get a message using it i tend not to pay that much attention to it. that being said, i find myself using it in chat as its sometimes quicker to type 'u' instead of 'you' for example

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

......and I was beginning to think I was the only one!!!This really rips my nitting!!!It does put me off a bit.There was one profile I read.....sorry I could not read.Five mins in and I still couldn't translate the first sentence.I'm not particularily intelligent but I always check spelling and grammar before sending and I'll use a dictionary to chech spelling if I have to.Doesn't take much really.But I do think it's important to have at least basic grammar.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Spellchecker amazing invention ! Lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

This post has spoken wonders today....

I was even corrected by mail with my spelling mistake from an earlier post....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

See you learn something new everyday ....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Ehe....wit U on aboot?

Disney bother me hows i spell

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"If this bothered me I wouldn't meet myself.... I am crap at spelling.... Crap with vocabulary....but I am proud to be me....

I may not have intellect... Good vocabulary etc.... But I have common sence and an open mind....."

What shes says , as im dyslexic and canney spoke or tipe right

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By *cottishsexgoddessWoman
over a year ago

Glenrothes

I don't mind spelling mistakes as we all make them, but bad grammar and poor sentences do drive me mad. Years of being a typist and having to do reports etc, plus in my early working days I worked in legal firms, so everything had to be just so! I know what mrsB means about the chat room, but I find it quicker to type the full word than the short text version! lol xxx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"If this bothered me I wouldn't meet myself.... I am crap at spelling.... Crap with vocabulary....but I am proud to be me....

I may not have intellect... Good vocabulary etc.... But I have common sence and an open mind..... What shes says , as im dyslexic and canney spoke or tipe right "

spelling...typing...vocabulary...grammer....doesnt come natural to everyone.....

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By *b430Man
over a year ago

Tayside


"Yes but both of you manage to construct a sentence, with grammar and we all have words we struggle to spell... My frustration stems from those with opening gambits like...

'howz u 2day up2 nething l8r or fancy a chat'

It just took me 5 minutes to construct that babble of pish! Would take an age to decipher a chat where the other person was fluent in pish!! "

Wow it took you 5 minutes to understand the message?

hmmmmmm I'll say no more on that!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

i wouldnt say that peoples lack of sentence construction bothers me as such but as for the ... hey bbzzz..how r u 2day bbzz..you look mmmmmmm....

now that is a different matter!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I prefer posh sounding fannyfarts...nun a that neddy pish

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Yes but both of you manage to construct a sentence, with grammar and we all have words we struggle to spell... My frustration stems from those with opening gambits like...

'howz u 2day up2 nething l8r or fancy a chat'

It just took me 5 minutes to construct that babble of pish! Would take an age to decipher a chat where the other person was fluent in pish!! "

Lol lol!!! Have to agree here hon...for me an instant turn off and almost certain delete. First impressions count and a shoddy mail often results in a shoddy male

Sheesh...how hard can it be?

Lx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Think that some people take this swinging malarky far to seriously,

Or should that be:

Tnk tht sm ppl tk dis swingin malaky far 2 serious like innit

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Yes but both of you manage to construct a sentence, with grammar and we all have words we struggle to spell... My frustration stems from those with opening gambits like...

'howz u 2day up2 nething l8r or fancy a chat'

It just took me 5 minutes to construct that babble of pish! Would take an age to decipher a chat where the other person was fluent in pish!!

Wow it took you 5 minutes to understand the message?

hmmmmmm I'll say no more on that! "

I said '5 minutes to construct'* my point beig that I had to actively think outside the box in order to change a simple question into a somewhat foreign language.

On the whole I agree with all of you, I am not seeking academic level essays, as I said before, spelling mistakes happen (especially if one is using their phone in order to communicate... Damn autocorrect), but.... I believe the phrase I will coin is.... Grammar is the difference between knowing your shit and you're shit

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Think that some people take this swinging malarky far to seriously

"

I believe it is 'far too* seriously' hahah

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Well, as for alerting the education board, 30yrs too late.

And assuming someones not worth a reply because of the message style?

Its maybe not their fault they have messaged someone struggling to get over themselves,into the bargain.

I have a bit more humility and accept folks wee failings, than to use this thread as some kinda platform to declare myself in any way better than the next because i can spell.

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By *uirkygirlCouple
over a year ago

Quirkyville

wit the fck r u al tlkin abot I lik tlking lk tis

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


" Grammar is the difference between knowing your shit and you're shit

"

I must be shit then….

Thanks.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Well, as for alerting the education board, 30yrs too late.

And assuming someones not worth a reply because of the message style?

Its maybe not their fault they have messaged someone struggling to get over themselves,into the bargain.

I have a bit more humility and accept folks wee failings, than to use this thread as some kinda platform to declare myself in any way better than the next because i can spell.

"

Whoa, don't be mistaken into me feeling some sense of superiority over anyone, I posed this question to the world of fab to find what peoples _iews are on the subject.

That being said there is no excuse for sheer laziness and my preference is to pursue people who have taken that little extra time and effort to construct sentences that even loosely resemble the English language.

Although if you are insinuating that you are somehow superior to the people on this thread because you don't judge... Well rock on mate

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

As jo said above, people spelling stuff wrong doesn't put us of…. people been condescending does though.

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By *illiamlook13Man
over a year ago

comber

wish i was gd at grammer mite get on better with ppl need some1 to help me tks xxx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Well, as for alerting the education board, 30yrs too late.

And assuming someones not worth a reply because of the message style?

Its maybe not their fault they have messaged someone struggling to get over themselves,into the bargain.

I have a bit more humility and accept folks wee failings, than to use this thread as some kinda platform to declare myself in any way better than the next because i can spell.

Whoa, don't be mistaken into me feeling some sense of superiority over anyone, I posed this question to the world of fab to find what peoples _iews are on the subject.

That being said there is no excuse for sheer laziness and my preference is to pursue people who have taken that little extra time and effort to construct sentences that even loosely resemble the English language.

Although if you are insinuating that you are somehow superior to the people on this thread because you don't judge... Well rock on mate "

I've read all the thread, was'nt directed at you, it was the whole thread so far, summarised, thats all.

I totally recognise the other elements, the text speak etc,can relate to it.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Ooft who cares , I text chat for quickness with my friends , I can usally desphier what there on about , if someone messages me using text chat and the outcome of the message is the same if they were using grammar then yeah I'd still mail back.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Ooft who cares , I text chat for quickness with my friends , I can usally desphier what there on about , if someone messages me using text chat and the outcome of the message is the same if they were using grammar then yeah I'd still mail back."

G3rrritroonye

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

A picture paints a thousand words

No matter, if someone makes a spelling mistake or types the way it sounds. Not everyone has the same eye to brain finger co-ordination, Type whatever you wish after all the thought counts.

; may mean your bum is almost there

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"As jo said above, people spelling stuff wrong doesn't put us of…. people been condescending does though.

"

snap xx

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By *iewMan
Forum Mod

over a year ago

Angus & Findhorn

as long as you can spell

fanny and cock...

nothing else really matters on here

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"as long as you can spell

fanny and cock...

nothing else really matters on here "

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

Of course everyone is entitled to their opinions, it is an open forum... Just a personal preference of mine as am sure you all have preferences of your own

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Yes but both of you manage to construct a sentence, with grammar and we all have words we struggle to spell... My frustration stems from those with opening gambits like...

'howz u 2day up2 nething l8r or fancy a chat'

It just took me 5 minutes to construct that babble of pish! Would take an age to decipher a chat where the other person was fluent in pish!! "

maybe yir jist gitin too auld.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Yes but both of you manage to construct a sentence, with grammar and we all have words we struggle to spell... My frustration stems from those with opening gambits like...

'howz u 2day up2 nething l8r or fancy a chat'

It just took me 5 minutes to construct that babble of pish! Would take an age to decipher a chat where the other person was fluent in pish!! maybe yir jist gitin too auld."

A feckin hope not!!! That would be a kick in the stones at my age

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"as long as you can spell

fanny and cock...

nothing else really matters on here "

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Yes but both of you manage to construct a sentence, with grammar and we all have words we struggle to spell... My frustration stems from those with opening gambits like...

'howz u 2day up2 nething l8r or fancy a chat'

It just took me 5 minutes to construct that babble of pish! Would take an age to decipher a chat where the other person was fluent in pish!! "

G gets fed up with me correcting his spelling when he is writing a message....not that my spelling is brilliant but I do try to spell correctly and try to use proper grammar simply because it was the way I was brought up (can still hear my mum going on about it). Personally we hate getting messages in 'text speak' but not so bothered about spelling/grammar though it is nice when a message is constructed properly.

Right so who is going to pick out the faults in this message then....lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Yes but both of you manage to construct a sentence, with grammar and we all have words we struggle to spell... My frustration stems from those with opening gambits like...

'howz u 2day up2 nething l8r or fancy a chat'

It just took me 5 minutes to construct that babble of pish! Would take an age to decipher a chat where the other person was fluent in pish!!

G gets fed up with me correcting his spelling when he is writing a message....not that my spelling is brilliant but I do try to spell correctly and try to use proper grammar simply because it was the way I was brought up (can still hear my mum going on about it). Personally we hate getting messages in 'text speak' but not so bothered about spelling/grammar though it is nice when a message is constructed properly.

Right so who is going to pick out the faults in this message then....lol"

no full stop at the end of 'lol', disgusting!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

See....I did say I wasn't brilliant...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"See....I did say I wasn't brilliant..."

I cannot say much...as I started my sentence without a capital...arrghhhhhhhhhhh!...think thats me blocked from many meets now!

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By *olly Gentle GiantMan
over a year ago

Glenrothes


"Am I the only person who is instantly put off from corresponding with people on here due to a lack of vocabulary skills? "
I don't know. Do you have a lack of vocabulary skills and, if so, does your skillset affect your decision making? As to your other points - I do fear that language whether spoken or written is ever so gradually morphing into txt spk. But then the UK has a multiplicity of regional and local dialects each with their own grammatical and vocabularian foibles. I'm sure there is a school of thought that ascribes to the _iew that txt spk is an evolution. Only time will tell if txt spk prevails or goes the way of the dodo

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Am I the only person who is instantly put off from corresponding with people on here due to a lack of vocabulary skills? I don't know. Do you have a lack of vocabulary skills and, if so, does your skillset affect your decision making? As to your other points - I do fear that language whether spoken or written is ever so gradually morphing into txt spk. But then the UK has a multiplicity of regional and local dialects each with their own grammatical and vocabularian foibles. I'm sure there is a school of thought that ascribes to the _iew that txt spk is an evolution. Only time will tell if txt spk prevails or goes the way of the dodo "

give it a few more years and there wont be texting...I constantly fail to see why people dont see how fast technology is moving...rightly or wrongly it is moving faster than expected...you only have to watch some sci-fi movies to see where some of the technology is heading..and some of it is already actually being implemented.A johnny mnemonic world is not really that far away.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Must admit that text speak really bugs my happiness, as does simple bad spelling. Example being where and were, and off and of. I mean to say, that is primary 1 stuff and used every single day.

Puntuation marks, so long as there are some, doesnt matter so much. But its the really really long sentences without any where there could easily be some and be made into other sentences to make it make more sense get my goat as it is just stupid we dont say everything in one long breath so why make a paragraph out in one long breath is it too much to ask?(saracstic example there by the way!)

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By *illow PimpMan
over a year ago

Midlothian

Posted this ages ago...credit to the students, seems lunch time session in the pub were beneficial afterall.

I cdnoult blveiee taht i cluod aulacity uesdnatnrd waht i was rdgnieg. The phaonmneal pweor of the hmuan mnid, aoccdrnig to rsceearch at Cmabrigde Uinervisy, it deosn’t mttaer in waht oredr the ltteers in a wrod are, the olny iprmoatnt tihng is taht the frist and lsat ltteer be in the rghit pclae.

The reset can be a taotl mses and you can sitll raed it wouthit a porbelm. tihs is bcuseae the huamn mnid deos not raed ervey lterter by istelf, but the wrod as a wlohe. Amzanig eh? And I awlyas tohghut slpeling was imporantt…! And for thsoe of you wtih mroe tmie tahn ohrets, you wlli ntocie taht not olny are msot of the wrosd a mses but smoe of tehm are cpmlpoetley msiseplt awslel…!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

get a life your only on here for sex not a spelling test lol

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By *rs kemeaCouple
over a year ago

angus

I used to proof read for a living so I can't help but notice spelling and grammer mistakes, that doesn't stop me making them myself mind you. My ex is dyslexic and I had to learn not to correct him because it got right on tits and at the end of the day I could understand what he meant. He couldn't help but make the same mistake next time so it was pointless.

Most of the 15-lines-but-no-full-stops or text speak messages I've had, the content has been shite anyway so it's not been an issue.

But I do often wonder why people don't have a quick check over their messages (on here, other forums, at work etc) before they hit send. I always do.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Posted this ages ago...credit to the students, seems lunch time session in the pub were beneficial afterall.

I cdnoult blveiee taht i cluod aulacity uesdnatnrd waht i was rdgnieg. The phaonmneal pweor of the hmuan mnid, aoccdrnig to rsceearch at Cmabrigde Uinervisy, it deosn’t mttaer in waht oredr the ltteers in a wrod are, the olny iprmoatnt tihng is taht the frist and lsat ltteer be in the rghit pclae.

The reset can be a taotl mses and you can sitll raed it wouthit a porbelm. tihs is bcuseae the huamn mnid deos not raed ervey lterter by istelf, but the wrod as a wlohe. Amzanig eh? And I awlyas tohghut slpeling was imporantt…! And for thsoe of you wtih mroe tmie tahn ohrets, you wlli ntocie taht not olny are msot of the wrosd a mses but smoe of tehm are cpmlpoetley msiseplt awslel…! "

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By *olenebeanCouple
over a year ago

Aberdeen

It's just text speak I don't like. Not using capitals at the start of a sentence, and replacing you with 'u' really pisses me off.

Luckily I state this on my profile page, and so I can tell who genuinely hasn't bothered to read my profile lol.

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By *aucy3Couple
over a year ago

glasgow

albert einstein

thomas edison

john lennon

richard branson

hans christian anderson

george washington

winston churchill

john f kennedy

johnny depp

orlando bloom

liv tyler

keira knightley.

a short list of people with poor spelling,and grammar skills.

only a fool would judge people,using spelling,and grammar,as their criteria.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"albert einstein

thomas edison

john lennon

richard branson

hans christian anderson

george washington

winston churchill

john f kennedy

johnny depp

orlando bloom

liv tyler

keira knightley.

a short list of people with poor spelling,and grammar skills.

only a fool would judge people,using spelling,and grammar,as their criteria.

"

and look at that fifty shades of grey guy's books...they're supposedly shitly written lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"albert einstein

thomas edison

john lennon

richard branson

hans christian anderson

george washington

winston churchill

john f kennedy

johnny depp

orlando bloom

liv tyler

keira knightley.

a short list of people with poor spelling,and grammar skills.

only a fool would judge people,using spelling,and grammar,as their criteria.

"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"get a life your only on here for sex not a spelling test lol "

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

Well fool or no fool, I stand by my preference! I am sure you all have your own preferences which you would defend as your right?

I think the thread has been taken in a very literal sense though and that you are assuming I sit with a dictionary or thesaurus by my side to inspect the mails i receive, this is not the case. I don't judge people on their spelling 'mistakes' or grammar 'mistakes', however I don't see an excuse for a blatant disregard of the english vocabulary format either! I guess it is once again a case of each to their own. There is a distinct difference between a spelling mistake and a complete restructure of a word...... I doubt Einstein wrote 'chk nrg levl l8rs'??

As for the cleverly discovered skill of being able to decipher an entire text even though the letters were all mixed up..... The key in the study is that the letters are all correct, simply in an alternative order, the brain accepts the letters are all present and quickly works it out from the first and last letters in the word.

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By *uirkygirlCouple
over a year ago

Quirkyville


"Well fool or no fool, I stand by my preference! I am sure you all have your own preferences which you would defend as your right?

I think the thread has been taken in a very literal sense though and that you are assuming I sit with a dictionary or thesaurus by my side to inspect the mails i receive, this is not the case. I don't judge people on their spelling 'mistakes' or grammar 'mistakes', however I don't see an excuse for a blatant disregard of the english vocabulary format either! I guess it is once again a case of each to their own. There is a distinct difference between a spelling mistake and a complete restructure of a word...... I doubt Einstein wrote 'chk nrg levl l8rs'??

As for the cleverly discovered skill of being able to decipher an entire text even though the letters were all mixed up..... The key in the study is that the letters are all correct, simply in an alternative order, the brain accepts the letters are all present and quickly works it out from the first and last letters in the word. "

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By *yatt EarpMan
over a year ago

wirral

Wot r u all on abt? I luv talkin lyk dis it's faster dan da nrml way ov typin. Lol lamo

Grrrrrrrrr I hate it!!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Will we all need an IQ test soon to put on our profiles?

If so i will be fine but my wife is fucked lol ! Sorry i meant laugh out loud!

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By *awty_MissDynomiteNo1Woman
over a year ago

No idea, I'm lost. Damn Sat nav!

It never really bothers me as long as I get the jist of what someone is trying to say ...I'm very prone myself to spelling mistakes especially if I'm stressed or just rushing to fire of an email it's no big deal

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By *l coupleCouple
over a year ago

Glasgow

Nee Naw Nee Naw.....

Grammar Polis, step away from the keyboard!!!

FFS, are only fluent English speakers/typers allowed? That would rule out Dyslexics, folk with learning difficulties, and anyone who uses text speak which would be the majority of under 30s. How dare anyone declare whats acceptable messaging?

Jeezo, live and let live. If you're put off by a badly written message, it says more about you than the other person.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Nee Naw Nee Naw.....

Grammar Polis, step away from the keyboard!!!

FFS, are only fluent English speakers/typers allowed? That would rule out Dyslexics, folk with learning difficulties, and anyone who uses text speak which would be the majority of under 30s. How dare anyone declare whats acceptable messaging?

Jeezo, live and let live. If you're put off by a badly written message, it says more about you than the other person."

If you bothered to read the thread in full you would have learned that the main issue lies with people who use 'text language'! As stated several times I hold nothing against a spelling 'mistake' or indeed a grammar 'mistake'! As for people who are not fluent in English, you can't say they have bad grammar or spelling skills as its not their first language!

As for 'text speak' its a pile of lazy pish! Sure if texting a friend, using shortened replacements in chat for speed purposes, no harm no foul... But if sending a message to potentially interest people to meet you... Put a bit of fucking effort in! It's the language you were taught in school FFS!

I have at no point made any comment about people who use this 'text pish', lazy is the worst I would say.. I don't know them so I don't judge them... Shame the same can't be said for the people on this thread firing off because Some of us don't like it

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

This thread is spiraling a bit...nothing unusual lol!

the key points are freedom of expression,preference and open mindedness.

I abbreviate on certain words like 'you' as 'u'...personally its not laziness...just the speed of which I type at learned from chatrooms(way before fab)-made me more efficient at following what was happening.

Unfortunately, the OP (original posting)- has led some to question if its a belittling thread and with some preferences stated its made it worse.

I take little notice of where my judgements lie when its about actually meeting people...however some do have superiority complexes when it comes to who has messaged them.

Behind who has messaged is a person..I think anyone deserves a chance regardless of how they speak or type as long as they arent abusive or plainly idiotic- why narrow your choices on a potentially good meet?

my same opinion on peoples profile pic contents applies...it probably doesnt reflect on the person in the extra dimensional sense, so some leeway on judgments should be given...unless ur a extra fussy fuck.

*being 'fussy', I have to add does not make one, more or less attractive..unfortunately..some believe it makes them part of an elite group.

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By *uirkygirlCouple
over a year ago

Quirkyville

If someone sent me a message and couldn't be bothered to write out the message in full and instead used 'Text Speak' i wouldnt bother to read it or reply, It would just say to me that they hadn't actually bothered to take the time to compose a message to me that may catch my interest. I feel that if someone wants to have a conversation with me on here then i am worth more than a couple of thrown together text style messages and wouldnt waste my time on anyone who couldnt be bothered to write to me in the english lanuage! its not about grammer or spelling, some people can't help it with that it is sheer laziness to use text lanuage. You wouldn't use it to apply for a Job or to write and important letter to someone so why would you use it when you are trying to catch someones attention in the hopes that there may be a spark and you can meet up... I'm not saying a meet is like a job application BTW but with folk moaning all the time about not getting replies to messages or not getting meets then maybe people always say to them maybe change the style of message you write..... Text message typing is LAZY and even more so when you have predictive text on your phone why can't people just use the real word instead of sending something that the other person may not be able to read!

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By *b430Man
over a year ago

Tayside

I like paragraphs, they make thing easier to read too!

Sorry couldn't resist that one!

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By *uirkygirlCouple
over a year ago

Quirkyville

My messsage has no paragraphs cos it a rant and when i rant i don't take a breath... So im only showing in my message the point i want to get across......

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By *b430Man
over a year ago

Tayside


"My messsage has no paragraphs cos it a rant and when i rant i don't take a breath... So im only showing in my message the point i want to get across......"

Which was?

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By *uirkygirlCouple
over a year ago

Quirkyville

ffs! that people who type in text talk in messages are lazy!!!

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By *b430Man
over a year ago

Tayside


"ffs! that people who type in text talk in messages are lazy!!!

"

Cheers - much easier to read when it is not a rant in one long paragraph!

PS - what does ffs! mean? Can't you type it out in full?

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By *b430Man
over a year ago

Tayside

Before I get another ffs!

The point I was trying to make was everyone shortens/ abbreviates some words, it doesn't mean they are lazy - does it?

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By *l coupleCouple
over a year ago

Glasgow

Have to laugh at folk moaning about text speak then using it themselves (btw, ffs) while ranting!

There are far worse crimes than text speak and it says more about the whining moaner than the person using text speak!

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

FFS - falls under abbreviation as does BTW, a law which has been accepted in the English language structure for quite some time

As for whining and moaning.... I assure you that I am not, merely posting a topical thread and by the looks of it, a rather successful one!

Strange however that such resistance is being met by people who clearly have the full use of the language.... Grammar and all

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By *awty_MissDynomiteNo1Woman
over a year ago

No idea, I'm lost. Damn Sat nav!

Anyone fancy a shag ? P

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By *damandeve4funCouple
over a year ago

Glasgow

I can see both points of _iew and realise that just because someone has a poor grasp of written English does not mean they are not nice human beings - and certainly does not mean they are poor lovers. Especially as there are many who are not native speakers, or who are afflicted by something like dyslexia or never had the chance of a decent eduction.

However, even if I fight against it, the more grammatical errors there are, and the more text speak there is, in a message, the less likely that person is going to get a positive response, all other things being equal. My pet hates are the lack, or misplacing, of commas, full-stops, capitals and question marks!

Like one-sentence introductions, I tend to regard it as evidence that this person, or these people, are not really that interested, otherwise they would have taken time to formulate something, whether by the aid of a spellcheck or other means, that would capture the attention, if not the imagination.

Once you have actually had the formal introductions, I think it is more excusable, as then you are just chatting back and forth more quickly.

In a general sense, I do despair at the quality of English displayed not just here but also on Facebook, Twitter, forums, etc. My partner is not British and has only been speaking English for a couple of years yet can write a more coherent sentence than most native speakers as displayed in such media.

However, when it boils down to it swinging-wise, if you we find you attractive, sexy, clean, considerate and nice, you can fuck us no matter how you type!

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By *ex n MusicCouple
over a year ago

Perth


"Well fool or no fool, I stand by my preference! I am sure you all have your own preferences which you would defend as your right?

I think the thread has been taken in a very literal sense though and that you are assuming I sit with a dictionary or thesaurus by my side to inspect the mails i receive, this is not the case. I don't judge people on their spelling 'mistakes' or grammar 'mistakes', however I don't see an excuse for a blatant disregard of the english vocabulary format either! I guess it is once again a case of each to their own. There is a distinct difference between a spelling mistake and a complete restructure of a word...... I doubt Einstein wrote 'chk nrg levl l8rs'??

As for the cleverly discovered skill of being able to decipher an entire text even though the letters were all mixed up..... The key in the study is that the letters are all correct, simply in an alternative order, the brain accepts the letters are all present and quickly works it out from the first and last letters in the word. "

I might be wrong here Dancing Devil....But im sure iv'e received "text" messages fa you in the past......Just Saying dude....lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I can see both points of _iew and realise that just because someone has a poor grasp of written English does not mean they are not nice human beings - and certainly does not mean they are poor lovers. Especially as there are many who are not native speakers, or who are afflicted by something like dyslexia or never had the chance of a decent eduction.

However, even if I fight against it, the more grammatical errors there are, and the more text speak there is, in a message, the less likely that person is going to get a positive response, all other things being equal. My pet hates are the lack, or misplacing, of commas, full-stops, capitals and question marks!

Like one-sentence introductions, I tend to regard it as evidence that this person, or these people, are not really that interested, otherwise they would have taken time to formulate something, whether by the aid of a spellcheck or other means, that would capture the attention, if not the imagination.

Once you have actually had the formal introductions, I think it is more excusable, as then you are just chatting back and forth more quickly.

In a general sense, I do despair at the quality of English displayed not just here but also on Facebook, Twitter, forums, etc. My partner is not British and has only been speaking English for a couple of years yet can write a more coherent sentence than most native speakers as displayed in such media.

However, when it boils down to it swinging-wise, if you we find you attractive, sexy, clean, considerate and nice, you can fuck us no matter how you type! "

blahhblahhblahh...lets gerritOn

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By *andsCouple
over a year ago

Edin


"Well fool or no fool, I stand by my preference! I am sure you all have your own preferences which you would defend as your right?

I think the thread has been taken in a very literal sense though and that you are assuming I sit with a dictionary or thesaurus by my side to inspect the mails i receive, this is not the case. I don't judge people on their spelling 'mistakes' or grammar 'mistakes', however I don't see an excuse for a blatant disregard of the english vocabulary format either! I guess it is once again a case of each to their own. There is a distinct difference between a spelling mistake and a complete restructure of a word...... I doubt Einstein wrote 'chk nrg levl l8rs'??

As for the cleverly discovered skill of being able to decipher an entire text even though the letters were all mixed up..... The key in the study is that the letters are all correct, simply in an alternative order, the brain accepts the letters are all present and quickly works it out from the first and last letters in the word.

I might be wrong here Dancing Devil....But im sure iv'e received "text" messages fa you in the past......Just Saying dude....lol "

I think if you read up you would see DD has said using text speak back and forth to friends is no mean foul! I think the point he was trying to get across and one that everyone has turned on its head (again) is if "an initial" message was sent to you and was badly constructed using text talk he personally would not be impressed .... he did not infer that people who did it were stupid only lazy as the initial correspondence is the one that either makes you want to know more about a person or not.

If some people are happy to receive an initial message like that perfect its all about preference and choice as is everything else, no need for insults probably best to accept peoples opinions differ and whats good for one is not necessarily good for another.

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By *uirkygirlCouple
over a year ago

Quirkyville


"Well fool or no fool, I stand by my preference! I am sure you all have your own preferences which you would defend as your right?

I think the thread has been taken in a very literal sense though and that you are assuming I sit with a dictionary or thesaurus by my side to inspect the mails i receive, this is not the case. I don't judge people on their spelling 'mistakes' or grammar 'mistakes', however I don't see an excuse for a blatant disregard of the english vocabulary format either! I guess it is once again a case of each to their own. There is a distinct difference between a spelling mistake and a complete restructure of a word...... I doubt Einstein wrote 'chk nrg levl l8rs'??

As for the cleverly discovered skill of being able to decipher an entire text even though the letters were all mixed up..... The key in the study is that the letters are all correct, simply in an alternative order, the brain accepts the letters are all present and quickly works it out from the first and last letters in the word.

I might be wrong here Dancing Devil....But im sure iv'e received "text" messages fa you in the past......Just Saying dude....lol

I think if you read up you would see DD has said using text speak back and forth to friends is no mean foul! I think the point he was trying to get across and one that everyone has turned on its head (again) is if "an initial" message was sent to you and was badly constructed using text talk he personally would not be impressed .... he did not infer that people who did it were stupid only lazy as the initial correspondence is the one that either makes you want to know more about a person or not.

If some people are happy to receive an initial message like that perfect its all about preference and choice as is everything else, no need for insults probably best to accept peoples opinions differ and whats good for one is not necessarily good for another."

Finally someone that gets it x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Think I'm right in thinking that the original post was about bad grammar in initial messages not just text speak....

Or maybe I'm reading the wrong post....

S

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

I stated in my original post That I was concerned about people's lack of 'BASIC' spelling and then I posed the question 'if it was a turn on/off' to anyone else.... Albeit somehow now I am being accused of 'superiority complex' and being 'judgemental' so far, people who find it a turn off have stated so, those with an objection have decided to launch their very own judgements of people who merely stated their preference....

Throughout this entire thread I have time and time again voiced my understanding of spelling mistakes and grammar errors, yet I consider a mistake to happen maybe once or twice in an initial mail, not every word/line/paragraph etc.

If this makes me a snob... Then I accept it... Does this mean I accept any judgement people make of me? Nope! Do I care? Nope! Will I lose sleep? Not likely! Do I stand by my original post? Yes indeed I do!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I say each to their own x respect the fact that some people live their lives on here as they may have a poor existence and poor life through lack of education.

If you don't like what they write you ate not being forced to read it and people from all over have different dialects so do write things or say things differently to you or I.

I do agree with Ayechewawa in saying you don't get a second chance to make a first impression so yes people should make an effort.

Remember don't look down on anyone unless your helping them up!!

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By *awty_MissDynomiteNo1Woman
over a year ago

No idea, I'm lost. Damn Sat nav!


"I say each to their own x respect the fact that some people live their lives on here as they may have a poor existence and poor life through lack of education.

If you don't like what they write you ate not being forced to read it and people from all over have different dialects so do write things or say things differently to you or I.

I do agree with Ayechewawa in saying you don't get a second chance to make a first impression so yes people should make an effort.

Remember don't look down on anyone unless your helping them up!!"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Dyslexic.. so sometimes may be taken for thick lol.. Bad mistake..

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By *illow PimpMan
over a year ago

Midlothian


"Dyslexic.. so sometimes may be taken for thick lol.. Bad mistake.."

It's a gift

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By *aucy3Couple
over a year ago

glasgow


"Well fool or no fool, I stand by my preference! I am sure you all have your own preferences which you would defend as your right?

I think the thread has been taken in a very literal sense though and that you are assuming I sit with a dictionary or thesaurus by my side to inspect the mails i receive, this is not the case. I don't judge people on their spelling 'mistakes' or grammar 'mistakes', however I don't see an excuse for a blatant disregard of the english vocabulary format either! I guess it is once again a case of each to their own. There is a distinct difference between a spelling mistake and a complete restructure of a word...... I doubt Einstein wrote 'chk nrg levl l8rs'??

As for the cleverly discovered skill of being able to decipher an entire text even though the letters were all mixed up..... The key in the study is that the letters are all correct, simply in an alternative order, the brain accepts the letters are all present and quickly works it out from the first and last letters in the word. "

do you see a certain irony in this post.

someone bemoaning the lack of literacy skills,also bemoaning the fact that they are being taken to literally hmmmmmmm.

einstien may not have written chk nrg levl 18yrs.

though leonardo davinci,did often write,right to left.

your original post,encompassed all with spelling,and grammar problems,as being lazy,seemingly discounting dyslexia.

perhaps you should choose your words more carefully,prior to any future original post.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I say each to their own x respect the fact that some people live their lives on here as they may have a poor existence and poor life through lack of education.

If you don't like what they write you ate not being forced to read it and people from all over have different dialects so do write things or say things differently to you or I.

I do agree with Ayechewawa in saying you don't get a second chance to make a first impression so yes people should make an effort.

Remember don't look down on anyone unless your helping them up!!"

god.....i LOVE that saying!!!!....im soooo using that...thanks oh wise one xx

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

I concede that my original post may have lacked in definition, my later posts have been as a means of clarifying my original intention. I had not even considered that offence may have been taken in the way it so apparently has.

That being said I still stand by my personal _iew of the topic, first impressions count and if someone fails to make an effort in the initial contact then I simply will refrain from making an effort to reply!

If my opinion somehow is perceived as being condescending.... Well... That's your opinion and I respect that it's your right. I am baffled by the fact that so many people have retaliated to my question with such resentment. I don't recall having aimed my complaint at any person/s who has dyslexia or any other form of learning disability... If you are however offended by my accusation against people for a lazy approach.... Jog On!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Dyslexic.. so sometimes may be taken for thick lol.. Bad mistake..

It's a gift "

I am gifted why of course xx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Well that one went down well.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I say each to their own x respect the fact that some people live their lives on here as they may have a poor existence and poor life through lack of education.

If you don't like what they write you ate not being forced to read it and people from all over have different dialects so do write things or say things differently to you or I.

I do agree with Ayechewawa in saying you don't get a second chance to make a first impression so yes people should make an effort.

Remember don't look down on anyone unless your helping them up!!god.....i LOVE that saying!!!!....im soooo using that...thanks oh wise one xx"

Your very welcome xx

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By *ikerbob1957Man
over a year ago

Glasgow

I think that it is worse for younger people these days as they have grown up with computers and sometimes don't even write anything out these days.

It's easy to get things messed up when there isn't a spell checker to sort out any mistakes.

Same with txt spk. People get so used to abreviating everything that they forget what the correct spelling actually is.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I say each to their own x respect the fact that some people live their lives on here as they may have a poor existence and poor life through lack of education.

If you don't like what they write you ate not being forced to read it and people from all over have different dialects so do write things or say things differently to you or I.

I do agree with Ayechewawa in saying you don't get a second chance to make a first impression so yes people should make an effort.

Remember don't look down on anyone unless your helping them up!!god.....i LOVE that saying!!!!....im soooo using that...thanks oh wise one xx

Your very welcome xx"

so very true and as a Scots lass i tent to type talk in Scots but for today i will show that yes ... i Sioux , can type and speak the queens English.

Then again why should i be forced to be conventional as there is nothing conventional about me i like to be different and be who i am not who someone or some people would like me to be.

i am me and proud to be me , noo get it roon ye awe hahahahahaha (joke ) afore any wan takes offence tae it

be who you wanna be not who folks want you to be would be sad world if we all were the same ............. and most txt type is now in the english dictionary so there fore we do speak the queens english xxx

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over a year ago

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By *awty_MissDynomiteNo1Woman
over a year ago

No idea, I'm lost. Damn Sat nav!


"I say each to their own x respect the fact that some people live their lives on here as they may have a poor existence and poor life through lack of education.

If you don't like what they write you ate not being forced to read it and people from all over have different dialects so do write things or say things differently to you or I.

I do agree with Ayechewawa in saying you don't get a second chance to make a first impression so yes people should make an effort.

Remember don't look down on anyone unless your helping them up!!god.....i LOVE that saying!!!!....im soooo using that...thanks oh wise one xx

Your very welcome xx

so very true and as a Scots lass i tent to type talk in Scots but for today i will show that yes ... i Sioux , can type and speak the queens English.

Then again why should i be forced to be conventional as there is nothing conventional about me i like to be different and be who i am not who someone or some people would like me to be.

i am me and proud to be me , noo get it roon ye awe hahahahahaha (joke ) afore any wan takes offence tae it

be who you wanna be not who folks want you to be would be sad world if we all were the same ............. and most txt type is now in the english dictionary so there fore we do speak the queens english xxx "

pmsl sue you were one of the ones i never could keep up with in chat for your scots tongue lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

As long as you can understand what's being said then i dont have a problem with txt talk.However i prefer to write full words i suppose thats down to corresponding to people at work ? I find it acceptable here but in every day work life thats a different matter.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"albert einstein

thomas edison

john lennon

richard branson

hans christian anderson

george washington

winston churchill

john f kennedy

johnny depp

orlando bloom

liv tyler

keira knightley.

a short list of people with poor spelling,and grammar skills.

only a fool would judge people,using spelling,and grammar,as their criteria.

"

Exactly

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By *issyForDommeTV/TS
over a year ago

glasgow

Some people can take it too far the other way i've found, i read a couples profile earlier and gotta say it was a chore and i'd bet most people wouldn't even get halfway through it lol.

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