FabSwingers.com forum: Rangers in 3rd Division - Worst Decision Ever For Our Economy

By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Many clubs will go bust here with sponsors pulling out of investing here, with unemployment a risk for thousands now. Those who have kicked Rangers whilst they are down will live to regret this.

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By *ob and angelaCouple
over a year ago

glasgow

we knew it was coming ....start off in the 3rd be back in couple years..but some of the spl clubs will feel the pinch when the glasgow rangers are out of the spl.....watp

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Never thought I'd be discussing football on a swing site but.....

I disagree. Hopefully this is a rare chance to rejuvenate Scottish football. It's been dying for a decade.

Hopefully folk will now head back to the games rather than lining SKY's coffers. Back your local side.....and yes, that includes Newco Rangers too.

Anyway. Back to perving.....

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Thing is those in the lower divisions will have their budget slashes by 60k. These clubs will not survive, whilst the SPL clubs will not survive without the Sky money. A truly baffling decision.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The pies are awesome - looking forward to the new season at Stirling

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

S - here what makes people think Rangers will take 3 years and be back in the SPL i mean half the team the had in their squad have gone and will have to turn to youth to get them out so it might take longer or might never happen

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Should of paid there taxes like everyone else and they wouldn't have to worry about it, if it was any other team say Dunfermline or motherwell, they wouldn't hesitate for a second about chucking them down to the 3rd division! It can't be one rule for them and different for the rest

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By *iggles007Man
over a year ago

West Lothian

They are lucky to be allowed to get into the 3rd they have cheated there way to many trophies at least Marseille had the cheek to win a european trophy when they were cheating. Rangers have done nothing in europe the last 30 years and im glad sporting integrity is the ultimate winner in this case.

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By *adgeeMan
over a year ago

Sw Scotland

"Should of paid there taxes like everyone else and they wouldn't have to worry about it, if it was any other team say Dunfermline or motherwell, they wouldn't hesitate for a second about chucking them down to the 3rd division! It can't be one rule for them and different for the rest"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Bye bye rangers! 3rd division it is

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Its called sporting integrity!!!!

Rangers have cheated and manipulated their way to the top and now they are caught and punished you all bleat about it!!

Plus, they are a NEWCO now, they fserve to start at the bottom and try and work their way back up just like any other new club!

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By *iggles007Man
over a year ago

West Lothian

All that glitters aint gold

How the mighty have fallen

Marvin from the scheme has more history than the Newco

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

First things first, Rangers Football club are in administration and about to be liquidated, they are dead, do not exist etc etc. This new company Sevco (The Rangers Football club), are a new football club and like all new football clubs, have to start at the bottom.

I love how it is all about money for the other clubs, did Rangers Football Club (in administration) care about that when they cheated Hearts out of 800K, Rapid Vienna of 1 million pounds, did they buggery.

Goodbye Rangers, hello Sevco, see you in about 5 years.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Justice for a horrible horrible club washed in bigotry and cheating. Don't come out with all this crap of bad for the economy crap.

You cheat and you get what you deserve. I've been to Ibrox many many times as an away fan and a fair percentage of the Rangers fans who go are utter vile and that's being nice.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Ha ha ha ha i really do have to laugh at the rest of these fans glad to see rangers in the 3rd division! Lets look back last year with dunfermline, 1 lost gate revenue from us and they were nearly the same as us. How many more will we see next season. Im not saying for one minute we don't deserve punishment but wish fans of the Scottish game would wake up and realise what this means to their club and their future as a fan!! Then again when they can't afford wages etc it will still be our fault! Im glad we in the 3rd division. Help the lower clubs!! Im sure within 2 years there will be others laughing now be taking it right back. Good luck to the spl !!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Ha ha ha ha i really do have to laugh at the rest of these fans glad to see rangers in the 3rd division! Lets look back last year with dunfermline, 1 lost gate revenue from us and they were nearly the same as us. How many more will we see next season. Im not saying for one minute we don't deserve punishment but wish fans of the Scottish game would wake up and realise what this means to their club and their future as a fan!! Then again when they can't afford wages etc it will still be our fault! Im glad we in the 3rd division. Help the lower clubs!! Im sure within 2 years there will be others laughing now be taking it right back. Good luck to the spl !!!"

ye, just make sure you pay your gate reciepts then!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Em i think you will find the fans paid it!!! Shows how other so called fans stick the boot in eh?! Laughing all the way when its really the fans who are suffering!! Nobody in the seats.of ibrox are proud of this!!! Showed our true character when we helped dunfermline. No excuses why it happened but if your a real fan of the game then Im sure they are disappointed to loose the games and support of Glasgow rangers!!!

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By *lassic1Man
over a year ago

bellshill

As the saying goes...be careful, if you wish for something too much incase it happens....The wise men in the board rooms(and thats why they are there) had to listen to the not so wise fans on the terracing and the result will give a short lived pleasure but a long struggle when Lawell and co sell of the best players and will survice but a few others wont.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Em i think you will find the fans paid it!!! Shows how other so called fans stick the boot in eh?! Laughing all the way when its really the fans who are suffering!! Nobody in the seats.of ibrox are proud of this!!! Showed our true character when we helped dunfermline. No excuses why it happened but if your a real fan of the game then Im sure they are disappointed to loose the games and support of Glasgow rangers!!!"

and why did the fans pay it? Because your board are cheating bastards!

Ye, i feel it for the real fans of the game, but, they deserve to start at the bottom, pure and simple!!

And what about those players that took a 75% pay cut?? They helped keep the club afloat til end of season and assured there were no redundancier, now that they have walked, (which they are entitled to do) your new board are hampering their careers by blocking international transfers! Beyond a fuckin joke!!

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By *andACouple
over a year ago

glasgow

"Justice for a horrible horrible club washed in bigotry and cheating. Don't come out with all this crap of bad for the economy crap.

You cheat and you get what you deserve. I've been to Ibrox many many times as an away fan and a fair percentage of the Rangers fans who go are utter vile and that's being nice."

Nothing like reducing your chances of getting meets

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Justice for a horrible horrible club washed in bigotry and cheating. Don't come out with all this crap of bad for the economy crap.

You cheat and you get what you deserve. I've been to Ibrox many many times as an away fan and a fair percentage of the Rangers fans who go are utter vile and that's being nice.

Nothing like reducing your chances of getting meets

I think i can wait 4 or 5 years til we meet again!

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By *andACouple
over a year ago

glasgow

I've gotta be honest. I don't know why people get involved in threads like these on a swingers sites. Be best to leave them to football sites.

It can be helpful though in a way...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

99.9% of rangers agree. We can't change board!! It is joke but to all you so called fans laughing and glad to see us there. That's a fuckin joke!!! You a hearts fan who has a cheek to get onto us about wages???? Or a hibs fan who well will be nearly.non existant after us away!!

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over a year ago

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over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"99.9% of rangers agree. We can't change board!! It is joke but to all you so called fans laughing and glad to see us there. That's a fuckin joke!!! You a hearts fan who has a cheek to get onto us about wages???? Or a hibs fan who well will be nearly.non existant after us away!! "

I'm a hibby actually! With 137yrs of history behind us! How much history have you got? Oh, thats right, about a month now ain't it??

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Ha ha ha i thought so. Shows how your thinking about yourself then instead of your club!! Don't think there be many more years left at this rate!!! Anyway back to the swinging

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

That sums up the fans of the old Rangers FC (In Administration) and the new Sevco, wishing other clubs to go bust, because they voted against you.

Get this into your heads, you have not been punished, you are a new club and new clubs start at the bottom.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Ha ha ha i thought so. Shows how your thinking about yourself then instead of your club!! Don't think there be many more years left at this rate!!! Anyway back to the swinging"

Is that the same way your club just thought of ITSELF then? Rather than the integrity of the sport??? Never mind tho, you might be able to chant 'simply the best' at your next derby with clyde tho!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

motherwell for the league

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I have never said and would never wish any club to go bust!! The implications to this is serious and do only hope all income continues to the spl although i very much doubt this. I am only saying that fans who are laughing at rangers going down and fans who wanted us down are only putting all their hard earned money that they have ploughed into their club to waste. And anybody who cannot admitstand up and not admit that they will struggle is off their head. Yes we deserve punishment but i just think the spl and sfl have made things very difficult.

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By *URRABULLCouple
over a year ago

Aberdeenshire

fuck sake i have gone on to the wrong website.i thought this was for swingers.we are on here for fun not to bitch about bloody football to each other.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I have never said and would never wish any club to go bust!! The implications to this is serious and do only hope all income continues to the spl although i very much doubt this. I am only saying that fans who are laughing at rangers going down and fans who wanted us down are only putting all their hard earned money that they have ploughed into their club to waste. And anybody who cannot admitstand up and not admit that they will struggle is off their head. Yes we deserve punishment but i just think the spl and sfl have made things very difficult."

Rangers are not being relagated, punished, or put down, RFC1872 are no more, the are dead, liquidated, gone.

The Rangers Football Club PLC was formed in 2012, so how can they be punished for things that happend in the last decade.

I will say it again, a new football club is not punished by starting in div 3, it is where new clubs who join the Scottish Football league start. What part of that is unfair?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Its a very good decision for the SPL teams, as they get to re arrange the voting structure to a fairer one, and divide the money up more evenly, instead of the majority going to celtic and that dead club from govan. I also find the old rangers fans to be truly pathetic, its all about blaming and threatening everyone else, whatabouteery and the likes. No hint of sorry coming from them at all.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

nothing about it unfair at all

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"First things first, Rangers Football club are in administration and about to be liquidated, they are dead, do not exist etc etc. This new company Sevco (The Rangers Football club), are a new football club and like all new football clubs, have to start at the bottom.

Goodbye Rangers, hello Sevco, see you in about 5 years."

Are you stupid? It's a different company not a different club much like the Celtic company changed in 1994. Something happened to Leeds United a few years ago aswell. Rangers FCwas founded 1872 but the company wasn't incorporated until 1899. The stupidity of some on here is astounding.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Rangers are not being relagated, punished, or put down, RFC1872 are no more, the are dead, liquidated, gone.

The Rangers Football Club PLC was formed in 2012, so how can they be punished for things that happend in the last decade.

I will say it again, a new football club is not punished by starting in div 3, it is where new clubs who join the Scottish Football league start. What part of that is unfair?"

RFC1872 is the club which lives on. The company which wasn't incoporated until 1899 has been liquidated, just like what happened to Leeds and Middlesborough. Don't comment on something you clearly haven't a clue about.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Goodbye Rangers, hello Sevco, see you in about 5 years.

Celtic only changed the name of the company, they are still registered under the same company number they were incorporated with, Sevco 5088 are not Rangers. They are an entirely new comapny.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

I'm a hibby actually! With 137yrs of history behind us! How much history have you got? Oh, thats right, about a month now ain't it??

If you were a real Hibs fan you would know Hibs actually spent a year not playing in the Scottish leagues. Your company isn't 137 years old, the club is. Rangers, the club is 140 years old no matter how much you try to contest it. The actual company is only a few weeks old.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Goodbye Rangers, hello Sevco, see you in about 5 years.

Celtic only changed the name of the company, they are still registered under the same company number they were incorporated with, Sevco 5088 are not Rangers. They are an entirely new comapny. "

My point is companies who own clubs change but it does not affect te clubs history. Leeds United were liquidated 7 or so years ago, as were Middlesborough in the 80s.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Goodbye Rangers, hello Sevco, see you in about 5 years.

Celtic only changed the name of the company, they are still registered under the same company number they were incorporated with, Sevco 5088 are not Rangers. They are an entirely new comapny. "

My point is companies who own clubs change but it does not affect te clubs history. Leeds United were liquidated 7 or so years ago, as were Middlesborough in the 80s.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Really though?? Who the fuck cares?? Is a bunch of over paid, under educated guys in shorts chasing a piece of leather round a park!! I fail to see the importance? Also, a thread like this was begging for controversial responses and will ultimately come down to another excuse for football supporters to argue about who is better... Bad for the economy? Doubt it... The policing costs at an old firm match must be horrendous these days....

I say ban the fecking sport as far as I am concerned..... I like tits and pussy on a woman not a bunch of tits and Fanny's that chase a ball for a living!!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Always good to see people belittling and been abusive to others just cos they have a difference of opinion. True colours and all that.

Be and adult, respect others opinions and just agree to disagree.

As lins already said, it's good to see what people are really like.

Enjoy

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Goodbye Rangers, hello Sevco, see you in about 5 years.

Celtic only changed the name of the company, they are still registered under the same company number they were incorporated with, Sevco 5088 are not Rangers. They are an entirely new comapny.

My point is companies who own clubs change but it does not affect te clubs history. Leeds United were liquidated 7 or so years ago, as were Middlesborough in the 80s. "

Companies change names all the time wether it be financial reasons like becoming a limited company, or for marketing purposes etc, that is completey different to your company going bust and closed down

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

1st ,2nd or 3rd Glasgow rangers will be winning games who cares what one it's in we will be back sooner rather than later ! Even if it was Sunday morning football I would still back them WATP

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Its called sporting integrity!!!!

Rangers have cheated and manipulated their way to the top and now they are caught and punished you all bleat about it!!

Plus, they are a NEWCO now, they fserve to start at the bottom and try and work their way back up just like any other new club!"

In what way have they cheated? The EBTs were a legal loophole that were used from 2000 onwards. There wasn't anything illegal in them, and they are used by lots of huge companies like Barclays for example.

The PAYE which wasn't paid was Whytes doing. The staff all paid it but Whyte it seems stole the money.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Goodbye Rangers, hello Sevco, see you in about 5 years.

Celtic only changed the name of the company, they are still registered under the same company number they were incorporated with, Sevco 5088 are not Rangers. They are an entirely new comapny.

My point is companies who own clubs change but it does not affect te clubs history. Leeds United were liquidated 7 or so years ago, as were Middlesborough in the 80s.

Yes however as I've ready stated a football company being liquidated does not alter the history of the club and I've already given examples.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Sevco5088 are very lucky to even get in the 3rd division, they have no audited accounts, no sfa membership i believe, and barely enough players to field an 11 on the park. If i was a fan of Spartans or the like I'd be pretty pissed off.

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By *empnbunkCouple
over a year ago

south coast

I am a rangers fan and support the decision to go to 3rd division but something tells me it still wont happen ..the spl and sfa are spitting feathers at todays decision by the sfl..expect a new format to be announced later for an spl 2 ...its the only solution to save alot of spl clubs disappearing

"The league doesnt need rangers or celtic" what a load of bull .

Without either old firm teams the league dies simples

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I am a rangers fan and support the decision to go to 3rd division but something tells me it still wont happen ..the spl and sfa are spitting feathers at todays decision by the sfl..expect a new format to be announced later for an spl 2 ...its the only solution to save alot of spl clubs disappearing

"The league doesnt need rangers or celtic" what a load of bull .

Without either old firm teams the league dies simples"

I think the league would actually be in a far better shape, teams in with a chance of winning the league each year, it would see a big rise in crowds, and genuine competition, lots of scots yougnsters coming through also.

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By *empnbunkCouple
over a year ago

south coast

In regards to someones post about rangers owing money to hearts etc ....plans are already in place the all clubs will get what they are owed when rangers are admitted back into the scottish league

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By *cottybhoyMan
over a year ago

falkirk

Hopefully that is the end of it now and Sevco can just get on with.

Other clubs can just look after their own affairs - and I don't for a minute believe all this doom and gloom about financial devastation for the Scottish game.

And for the new entrants into SFL3, think of all the exciting wee places you'll get to visit. Places you have never before been. Think of the adventures to be had - and that includes the swinging as you have more overnight stays than the rest of us.

Am getting a bit jealous now!

Follow follow we will follow Sevco. Annan, Elgin we will follow on

Will be fun - good luck!

Just nae naughty songs!!!

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By *empnbunkCouple
over a year ago

south coast

Roll on a wee away trip to berwick

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Its called sporting integrity!!!!

Rangers have cheated and manipulated their way to the top and now they are caught and punished you all bleat about it!!

Plus, they are a NEWCO now, they fserve to start at the bottom and try and work their way back up just like any other new club!

The PAYE which wasn't paid was Whytes doing. The staff all paid it but Whyte it seems stole the money. "

so, craig whyte stole 54mill in taxes did he? Ye right! Rangers was a bent football team cheating their way to the top! The ebts was a way to pay your big name players with a DUAL contract!!

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Its called sporting integrity!!!!

Rangers have cheated and manipulated their way to the top and now they are caught and punished you all bleat about it!!

Plus, they are a NEWCO now, they fserve to start at the bottom and try and work their way back up just like any other new club!

The PAYE which wasn't paid was Whytes doing. The staff all paid it but Whyte it seems stole the money.

so, craig whyte stole 54mill in taxes did he? Ye right! Rangers was a bent football team cheating their way to the top! The ebts was a way to pay your big name players with a DUAL contract!! "

They never cheated, EBT's were a legal loophole as I've already said. It is morally wrong but if it is legal then it isn't cheating. A bent football team cheating our way to the top? Simmer down. The EBTs were only being used post-2000, after 9IAR, and after the ECWC in 1972. Rangers had one 48 titles by the time they started being used so how have they cheated to the top? This is you proving how bitter and twisted you are.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Its called sporting integrity!!!!

Rangers have cheated and manipulated their way to the top and now they are caught and punished you all bleat about it!!

Plus, they are a NEWCO now, they fserve to start at the bottom and try and work their way back up just like any other new club!

The PAYE which wasn't paid was Whytes doing. The staff all paid it but Whyte it seems stole the money.

so, craig whyte stole 54mill in taxes did he? Ye right! Rangers was a bent football team cheating their way to the top! The ebts was a way to pay your big name players with a DUAL contract!!

Dual contracts are illegal, punishable by awarding a 3-0 defeat in every match an inelligible player has been fielded. EBT's are legal, but Rangers used them as part of a wage, which is illegal.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Its called sporting integrity!!!!

Rangers have cheated and manipulated their way to the top and now they are caught and punished you all bleat about it!!

Plus, they are a NEWCO now, they fserve to start at the bottom and try and work their way back up just like any other new club!

The PAYE which wasn't paid was Whytes doing. The staff all paid it but Whyte it seems stole the money.

so, craig whyte stole 54mill in taxes did he? Ye right! Rangers was a bent football team cheating their way to the top! The ebts was a way to pay your big name players with a DUAL contract!!

ye, just keep telling yourself that! Who knows, you may even come to believe it eventually!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

After watching the first BBC programme about Mr Craig Whyte I said he's not got the money to progress rangers and a work mate said I was talking shite . I really do feel sorry for rangers fans the state the club has been run into the ground by Mr Murray and Mr Whtye . Sorry day for Scottish football .

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

There maybe more money put into the economy, because all of the supporters that are now not buying season tickets have around £500 a year plus pies and drinking money to spend at the shops and cafes.

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By *cottybhoyMan
over a year ago

falkirk

Further to my earlier post when I said I was a wee bit jealous

Nights out in Elgin, Peterhead, Annan, Stranraer and Montrose! Fab.

And a trip to Europe - Berwick.

Scottish women all over excited as hell

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Have to laugh at post heading....hardly on a par with ravenscraig closing.atleast i can Enjoy Talking my kids to football til they crawl back in a few years..jase

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

is this a football forum or swingers ??

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By *ugby 123Couple
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over a year ago

O o O oo

"is this a football forum or swingers ??"

It is a anything you fancy chatting about forum

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Justice for a horrible horrible club washed in bigotry and cheating. Don't come out with all this crap of bad for the economy crap.

You cheat and you get what you deserve. I've been to Ibrox many many times as an away fan and a fair percentage of the Rangers fans who go are utter vile and that's being nice.

Nothing like reducing your chances of getting meets

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By *ob and angelaCouple
over a year ago

glasgow

fact is were in div 3 lets accept our punishment grim and bear it and move on ....but as the septic sing ...if you know your history ....thats in stone...watp

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By *aucy3Couple
over a year ago

glasgow

we're doomed,it's a disaster,doomsday has arrived.

scottish football will never be the same again,clubs will go to the wall,it's the worst possible outcome.

poor rangers.

ps does anybody else find it hard to type,whilst pissing themselves laughing.

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By *ighting the fuseMan
over a year ago

Glasgow

A lot of people following the old "If I say its a brand new club enough times it might come true" mantra. It's still Rangers and when the SFA membership is transferred to the newco, the history goes with it. Looking forward to title number 55 already, but in the meantime bring on the Elgin.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"A lot of people following the old "If I say its a brand new club enough times it might come true" mantra. It's still Rangers and when the SFA membership is transferred to the newco, the history goes with it. Looking forward to title number 55 already, but in the meantime bring on the Elgin.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I don't really care about this but to hopefully provide some clarity. EBT schemes are widely used, the rights and wrongs of them are a completely different discussion. The issue here is if Rangers operated the scheme in the "correct" manner to avoid tax.

In terms of PAYE Rangers deduct from the employees and should remit to HMRC like any other business. To say it was only Mr Whyte absolves too many people of blame. I see similar cases every day where the directors of a company don't know who is and isn't being paid it isn't that uncommon but the financial team knew fine what was going on. interestingly there was a job going at rangers just after Mr Whyte took over, glad I never applied.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

How many titles will they lose for paying the players dual contracts?

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By *ola cubesMan
over a year ago

coatbridge

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membership cant be transfered its a new club not the old club if they want the history they pay the bills simples

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"The league doesnt need rangers or celtic" what a load of bull .

Without either old firm teams the league dies simples"

Was there as much 'concern' shown by you all for the rest of the teams when the 'big two' were wittering on about going to the english league? I think not.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

So lets get this strait .... clubs that lie about finances, cheat on paying taxes due, make dubious contracts with players so again the tax man does not get the monies we ALL have to pay should basically get a "smack on the wrist" and told Don't do it again ??.... i think not .....they got what they deserved....no less.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

There is nothing 'illegal' about EBT's if they are run correctly. The do offer some amount of tax avoidance which works out better than either been an employee or a Limited Company.

However, it seems that the Rangers schemes were not run correctly (maybe due to greed) and became tax evasion.

Tax avoidance is OK (immoral maybe, but legal), Tax Evasion is illegal.

I think (and I dont pretend to be an expert here, offer to be corrected) that as they could save money on their tax bill, they could afford to pay more in wages to attract better players. Some would say thats cheating.

It wouldnt surprise me if in the near future, MP's, Public Sector Management, NHS high management etc were also 'exposed' as using EBT's. They were a scheme promoted by many accountants.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

How exciting will the SPL be now? As there was really only 2 teams contending for the title every year. Now Rangers r gone and will earn there rightful place bk at the top of the SPL in 3yrs time but what a gr8 feeling it will be to earn there place bk at the top. So come on lads keep believing WATP

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By *lassic1Man
over a year ago

bellshill

Sky sports have just announced an apology to all subscribers.....When they said they would show all Rangers fixture in 3D they actually meant D3.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Sky sports have just announced an apology to all subscribers.....When they said they would show all Rangers fixture in 3D they actually meant D3.

Brilliant!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"How exciting will the SPL be now? As there was really only 2 teams contending for the title every year. Now Rangers r gone and will earn there rightful place bk at the top of the SPL in 3yrs time but what a gr8 feeling it will be to earn there place bk at the top. So come on lads keep believing WATP"

WATP, what the feck does that actually mean. I love how you daft Sevco fans believe you will be back in the SPL in 3 years, what makes you think it will be that easy.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

WATP, what the feck does that actually mean. I love how you daft Sevco fans believe you will be back in the SPL in 3 years, what makes you think it will be that easy."

We're Away To Peterhead.

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over a year ago

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By *tormountCouple
over a year ago

Your Town

In the words of the great Paul Weller "Lights go out, walls come tumbling down"

As for all this Sevco pish, a cyber beer to anyone who can show me a player who signed and played for for Pacific Shelf 595, Murray International or Wavetower.

Whilst I look forward to SFL 3 and the moral return of the Rangers I also look forward to SFL parasites drop one by one hopefully starting very very soon. Already ICT have an EGM, St Mirren are decrying the vote as catostrophic and Celtic are pleading through a toe curling advertising campaign for people to buy worthless season tickets.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"In the words of the great Paul Weller "Lights go out, walls come tumbling down"

As for all this Sevco pish, a cyber beer to anyone who can show me a player who signed and played for for Pacific Shelf 595, Murray International or Wavetower.

Naw but, but the SPLs gonnae pyoor thrive withoot yeez

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"There is nothing 'illegal' about EBT's if they are run correctly. The do offer some amount of tax avoidance which works out better than either been an employee or a Limited Company.

However, it seems that the Rangers schemes were not run correctly (maybe due to greed) and became tax evasion.

Tax avoidance is OK (immoral maybe, but legal), Tax Evasion is illegal.

It wouldnt surprise me if in the near future, MP's, Public Sector Management, NHS high management etc were also 'exposed' as using EBT's. They were a scheme promoted by many accountants.

You are correct Steve, putting aside the morality issue, many people/organisations have used the EBT schemes to pay a higher percentage of their income to certain parties. Indeed many companies,large and small run by many high profile individuals have used EBT schemes.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Well I'm a big Celtic fan and as much as rangers should be punished I'm gonna miss the old firm games big time, but there really was a no win situation with any outcome the biggest problem is Scottish football relays so heavily on both Celtic and rangers

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"In the words of the great Paul Weller "Lights go out, walls come tumbling down"

As for all this Sevco pish, a cyber beer to anyone who can show me a player who signed and played for for Pacific Shelf 595, Murray International or Wavetower.

And how exactly are Servo going to pay for the up keep of Ibrox and Murray Park while playing through the Scottish League. Another admin within 3 years. And Celtic are cringe worthy, have you seen and heard the voice of the old Rangers support. Ladies and gentlemen, I give you John Bomber Brown.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"In the words of the great Paul Weller "Lights go out, walls come tumbling down"

As for all this Sevco pish, a cyber beer to anyone who can show me a player who signed and played for for Pacific Shelf 595, Murray International or Wavetower.

There you go with the Sevco shite again. People like you are a lost cause

to have a debate with

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Does anyone else think it won't actually happen with rangers in whatever form going to div 3? I think it will still be over ruled

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Does anyone else think it won't actually happen with rangers in whatever form going to div 3? I think it will still be over ruled "

How can that happen when rangers are not going to appeal the decision..

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over a year ago

"Does anyone else think it won't actually happen with rangers in whatever form going to div 3? I think it will still be over ruled

How can that happen when rangers are not going to appeal the decision.. "

Think the big wigs will come up with something to over turn the decision dunno why just a gut feeling.....watch this space

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By *aughty.naughty deviantsCouple
over a year ago

Stirling

I don't see how as they have ended up where they deserve to be, They are no different from any club that has gone bust in the past or may do in the future, I'm not being anti rangers but sporting integrity & fairness had to be upheld

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I don't see how as they have ended up where they deserve to be, They are no different from any club that has gone bust in the past or may do in the future, I'm not being anti rangers but sporting integrity & fairness had to be upheld "

in a Nut-Shell

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'm a Celtic fan but just can't see it happening with rangers in div 3 dunno why...and to be honest I never wanted rangers out of the SPL even after all this but like I said earlier there was never going to be an outcome to suit all parties, I come from a family with a big mix of Celtic and rangers fans and have always enjoyed the banter and I'm really going to miss that, I know u get idiots who over step the mark but I've always loved the banter which I've had and its gonna be boring without that for me personally, only think that's annoyed me out this while fiasco is John Brown but again that's personal opinion

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

That was meant to say only thing not only think

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

should think themselfs lucky to get into the 3rd division . some clubs have been trying for years .. no one to blame but themselfs ? ha ha

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By *tormountCouple
over a year ago

Your Town

"should think themselfs lucky to get into the 3rd division . some clubs have been trying for years .. no one to blame but themselfs ? ha ha "

Just out of interest what are they guilty of? ie. what is the punishment for?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"In the words of the great Paul Weller "Lights go out, walls come tumbling down"

As for all this Sevco pish, a cyber beer to anyone who can show me a player who signed and played for for Pacific Shelf 595, Murray International or Wavetower.

There you go with the Sevco shite again. People like you are a lost cause

to have a debate with

I can debate with you anytime, when you admit that Rangers are dead and Sevco are a new club. If you want proof, check new company name and number. Enjoy the 3rd division and another administration in less than 2 years.

Your old club cheated for over a decade and it caught up with them.

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over a year ago

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over a year ago

its amazing how serious people take a game... at the end of the day thats what it is....

that said.....certainly know who we certainly wouldnt ever meet reading this....

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over a year ago

"should think themselfs lucky to get into the 3rd division . some clubs have been trying for years .. no one to blame but themselfs ? ha ha

Just out of interest what are they guilty of? ie. what is the punishment for?

They are not guilty of anything, the old Rangers went bust, a NEW club was formed and like all NEW clubs, they start in the bottom tier of Scottish professional football.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"its amazing how serious people take a game... at the end of the day thats what it is....

that said.....certainly know who we certainly wouldnt ever meet reading this...."

very good point there. some folks greet n moan about how difficult it is to get meets on here then get embroiled in discussions on here that are clearly going to alienate themselves from certain others

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Can't we all just be friends lol

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By *awty_MissDynomiteNo1Woman
over a year ago

No idea, I'm lost. Damn Sat nav!

"its amazing how serious people take a game... at the end of the day thats what it is....

that said.....certainly know who we certainly wouldnt ever meet reading this....

so true not just on this forum post but on many others on the forums just now and some even wonder why you've blocked them even before posting forum topics ...far too many just out to have a constant dig at people pretty sad really that some feel the need to try and belittle people as if they feel they are far superior to others lol

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By *awty_MissDynomiteNo1Woman
over a year ago

No idea, I'm lost. Damn Sat nav!

"Can't we all just be friends lol "

for those walking about with a massive chip on their shoulders this will sadly never happen xxxx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I know I'm a Celtic fan as I've said and happy to admit I'm gonna miss rangers, hope its a quick rise through the league so battle and banter can commence

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By *tormountCouple
over a year ago

Your Town

"In the words of the great Paul Weller "Lights go out, walls come tumbling down"

As for all this Sevco pish, a cyber beer to anyone who can show me a player who signed and played for for Pacific Shelf 595, Murray International or Wavetower.

There you go with the Sevco shite again. People like you are a lost cause

to have a debate with

Your old club cheated for over a decade and it caught up with them."

OK,I'll bite.

Whoever owns Rangers will cut their cloth accordingly and if Auchenhowie has to go then so be it. Ibrox will be financed to the level required based on the numbers through the door.

The flip side is how will Pacific Shelf 595 continue to service a massive wage bill with a vastly reduced season ticket uptake. You could always sell a few of your half dozen or so £10m players (copyright M Guidi).

Maybe the Rangers support could re-invent itself as political

I know it, you know it, even Peters puppet Regan knows it the Rangers will never die.

Now can you say the same for Pacific Shelf 595 and their ten, wait nine, wait eight, wait seven ........ mates?

Pacific Shelf 595 FC have liabilities in the region of £36m. With no Sky TV and sponsors running for the hills that £36m is only going one way

Now if you wanna explain how the Rangers cheated over the last 10 years I would love to hear it.

PS are you the ghost of Michael Kelly by chance

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By *aucy3Couple
over a year ago

glasgow

"In the words of the great Paul Weller "Lights go out, walls come tumbling down"

As for all this Sevco pish, a cyber beer to anyone who can show me a player who signed and played for for Pacific Shelf 595, Murray International or Wavetower.

There you go with the Sevco shite again. People like you are a lost cause

to have a debate with

Your old club cheated for over a decade and it caught up with them.

OK,I'll bite.

Whoever owns Rangers will cut their cloth accordingly and if Auchenhowie has to go then so be it. Ibrox will be financed to the level required based on the numbers through the door.

Maybe the Rangers support could re-invent itself as political

I know it, you know it, even Peters puppet Regan knows it the Rangers will never die.

Now can you say the same for Pacific Shelf 595 and their ten, wait nine, wait eight, wait seven ........ mates?

Pacific Shelf 595 FC have liabilities in the region of £36m. With no Sky TV and sponsors running for the hills that £36m is only going one way

Now if you wanna explain how the Rangers cheated over the last 10 years I would love to hear it.

PS are you the ghost of Michael Kelly by chance

so is this how rangers newco since 2012,would like be portrayed,as a club desperately grasping at straws,tut tut tut it's a bit sad.

though on the upside,if yous stay injury free,and with a wee bit of luck,yous have a chance of making that third division championship,the first in your trophy room,fingers crossed.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Just a theory, they gambled on buying players to get them champions league glory, did;nt happen!

Then you had top players playing weekly in the scots prem, attracting zero money back, with just the old firm game to take our interest.

Financially they went down a dead end road, but for footballers just wanting to play and then get told they cant because the bosses have mucked it up is punishing the wrong people.

He who laughs least and all that, if anyone thinks we will be on the edge of our seats waiting to see how many points ahead the only other top class team in the league are, its not going to happen, and the odd fluke where dundee united get a draw, wooo, dont care, its all a fastrack to no footy worth bothering about = no investment in the game = new set up in next seasons plans.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

i have no doubt in my mind it will massively affect the revenue of the spl. But its these arsehole fans who think that rangers are the back bone of the spl and that all the "diddy" teams will now go bust. May i just point out it was diddy teams such as motherwell, st johnstone who made nothing but profit last year. No debts and paying tax will help with that. Try learning from these supposed diddy teams.

I also heard a belter on radio scotland the other day. Some moron came on the radio and told tam cowan rangers will be back in 3 years and win title number 55. Hello idiot, title number one it would be

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By *tormountCouple
over a year ago

Your Town

"i have no doubt in my mind it will massively affect the revenue of the spl. But its these arsehole fans who think that rangers are the back bone of the spl and that all the "diddy" teams will now go bust. May i just point out it was diddy teams such as motherwell, st johnstone who made nothing but profit last year. No debts and paying tax will help with that. Try learning from these supposed diddy teams.

Sorry but it's not the arsehole fans who are saying the diddies will go bust, its the diddy chairman in the form of Stewart Gilmour who stated last night "five clubs could go into administration within weeks".

Can I just point out in the three years before Craig Whyte took over Rangers were one of only three clubs in Britain to make a profit three years in a row.

Just for good measure history remains intact and if you wanna be pedantic the next title will be 62

It you knew "YOUR" history and all that you would know that the Rangers have won 61 titles. Some dont count the stats from the war years whilst OTHERS do in their official history stats

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

the rangers fc dnt have any history

remember glasgow rangers are dead and no longer exist

long live the spl

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Couldnt care less....whole game is pish when you look at it! 2 team league (or what was...) however if you look at it in relative terms 'the greatest league in they world!!' as they like to call it, is 20 teams with realistically only 3 going to win it until man city bought the league. what is my point? Scottish football needs to start from scratch and teach kids to pass ala spain and barca....not the way we were taught at school..

'if the baws in their half they canny hurt us son...now hoof it up there!' ...so while a few clubs probably will wind up, this could be the rebirth....more kids on streets playing rather than growing fat playing consoles. here endeth the lesson...as a baldy scotsman once said.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"the rangers fc dnt have any history

remember glasgow rangers are dead and no longer exist

long live the spl

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By *tormountCouple
over a year ago

Your Town

Rangers Then ... Rangers Now .... Rangers Forever.

Now can you say the same for the diddies

Sits back grinning and awaits the meltdown.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It was the only logical option for Rangers to start in Division 3. My main complaint is that the SFA/SPL took so long to decide on the whole issue before eventually passing it on to the SFL who have been swift, fair and open about everything that is going on.

The SPL trying to devise a way to bring us back into the top leagues so they can keep us for the TV money but continue to punish us at their will just makes me sick.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Glasgow Celtic 43 titles, Sevco 0, We welcome the chase. hahahahahahahahaha.Cos if you`ve got no history, its enough to make you`re heart go ohohohoh, lol .

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Rangers in the third division should have happened a long ago . I dont understnd why all these pointless vote took place . Anyway i think financially for some of the clubs in the SPL it is going to make things a bit harder . I dont think it will benefit Scottish football at all as celtic look set to domintae now for quite a few years . Having an uncompetetitve legue at the top with clubs going into europe is not god for the game overall . However Rangers in the 3rd division i think could be good for bringiing through the youngsters . i hope they adopt an ajax way of doing things and bring through some players , sell them on etc etc and then when or if they get back to the SPL they can try and keep hold them . Will also hopefully be a massive boost to the other teams in that division . As for some of the views on here i have read , its pretty disgusting , narrow minded and as someone said shows true colours about some folk . Sad in a way but a subject such as this was always going to bring a bit of controversy .

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Is this thread gonny run as long as the newco saga ,it,s getting boring as was the newco saga after a month or so ,teams will only struggle if their supporters don't get off their asses and support ther teams ,the chairman of Aberdeen has pointed out if the get a full house first home game of the season they will have made more money from that one game than two games against the newco

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By *tormountCouple
over a year ago

Your Town

"Is this thread gonny run as long as the newco saga ,it,s getting boring as was the newco saga after a month or so ,teams will only struggle if their supporters don't get off their asses and support ther teams ,the chairman of Aberdeen has pointed out if the get a full house first home game of the season they will have made more money from that one game than two games against the newco "

The chairman just forgot to mention he still has to find the shortfall for the Sky money and all the accompanying sponsorship which is falling fast.

Did someone once say Turkey's dont vote for Christmas

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Rangers Then ... Rangers Now .... Rangers Forever.

Now can you say the same for the diddies

Sits back grinning and awaits the meltdown.

Maybe you shouldn`t hold your breath my friend.The rest of Scottish football is so determined to see justice done here they will, i think, turn up in their droves to make sure their local club survives the loss of Murdochs cash and also to show Newco that they are indeed dispensable.It will also lead to the overpaid foreigners moving on and Scottish lads getting their chance at long last which can only be good for the national team.C `mon the Accies.

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By *ighting the fuseMan
over a year ago

Glasgow

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By *ighting the fuseMan
over a year ago

Glasgow

"Rangers Then ... Rangers Now .... Rangers Forever.

Now can you say the same for the diddies

Sits back grinning and awaits the meltdown.

Sounds good in principle but will probably work for about two weeks before apathy sets in. You have to remember that for a large amount of Glaswegians, Rangers is our local club.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

How come rangers fans suddenly now know the finances of every other club in Scottish football when they didn't have a clue about their own clubs for years....?

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By *uttyMan
over a year ago

Local to you maybe

"How come rangers fans suddenly now know the finances of every other club in Scottish football when they didn't have a clue about their own clubs for years....?"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Because they were blinded by their cheating. lol

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By *cottybhoyMan
over a year ago

falkirk

I get the feeling this could run and run lol.

Am going to say no more on the subject as I've discovered that some of my blue chums take this all a bit seriously and start blocking you lol.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

look am a celtic fan from a mixed family.theres no way that the demise of rangers will affect investment in scotland.if anything it will help smaller buisnesses get a chance to break through the red white n blue clouds that hamper the evolution of scotland as a whole.if it was celtic who wer in this position again cause we wer(apart from bein relegated)it would be benificial for the smaller clubs in the lower leagues to have these so called die hard celtic/rangers fans in thier towns n cities for a day or weekend.the cash these 4000 fans would spend in an hour.think about it.ok not all of these fans will travel every weekend n not all the cash gets spent legally but its like a cup clash every time rangers travel now......oh n just to finish off,if u really think rangers will b bak in the spl(unless spl1 n 2 goes ahead) in 3 seasons then i think u need to get a reality check.you are gonna get kicked up n down the park by all the players u never gave a chance,they r gonna try harder to beat u n seriously ther will b more players jumpin ship this jan n they wont care about contracts n loyalty either.so sorry if you are looking through blue tinted specs but its fact.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Cant see what all the fuss is myself,anyone for a game of cricket?

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over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I don't know whether to be impressed or disgusted that this thread is still running hahaha

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

its a swinging forum not a footy forum.footy n swingin dont mix.

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By *ouple1234Couple
over a year ago

BELFAST UK

good luck to the spl, for the actions of a few silly men the hole club gets it but who cares the blue blood will always be there if rangers are playing on a field or on the streets

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

a few billy men that should say.the spl wont die just cause the original rangers have.but hopefully now the bitterness n bigotry n racism will.cant wait till 2013 season n the jaggies will b part of the new firm.how does that byres road song go?lol.

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over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Many clubs will go bust here with sponsors pulling out of investing here, with unemployment a risk for thousands now. Those who have kicked Rangers whilst they are down will live to regret this."
it was all rangers own doing,nobody elses.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Hope the Bully boys enjoy the 3rd division, lol

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By *at n michaelCouple
over a year ago

AYRSHIRE

THINK THIS THREAD SHOULD BE CLOSED!!!!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"THINK THIS THREAD SHOULD BE CLOSED!!!!!"
Why?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Dont understand why every forum has to be about sex ffs, if you dont want to read them then dont. There are plenty very very boring snog shag or avoid forums on here for those who like that stuff and not everyday life.

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By *acreadCouple
over a year ago

central scotland

I dont think the thread should be closed I for one have enjoyed looking at the differing views and every thread has its fans although like GandL i cant stand the snog shag threads.

Rangers in 3rd division worst decision ever for our economy, realy?

Come to think of it it might just be worse for the economy than all the shipyards, coalmines, steelmines etc being shut down but I am no expert

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"How come rangers fans suddenly now know the finances of every other club in Scottish football when they didn't have a clue about their own clubs for years....?"

Like what? The EBTs were in the company accounts for years so hardly a secret. We have been well aware of the debt accumulated during Murray and Whyte's tenures. How come every non-Rangers supporter goes on about sporting integrity all of a sudden? Aberdeen should have been relegate twice but the rules got bent to keep them in the league. Financially most clubs in that league are close to going tits up so this pish about other clubs paying bills etc is a load of shit, Rangers are just the first in a long line to go down. Kilmarnock, Aberdeen, Hearts, Dundee United, St Mirren and Motherwell are all crippled with debt. Rangers fans and staff are being crucified for the actions of a select few. Murray and Whyte have gotten off and it is the Rangers supporters and staff who are the ones who will suffer.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

its not even a given that they will be allowed into 3rd division.as of today sevco fc have not satisfied the sfa criteria regarding fit and proper person and business plan.can this get any better? jase

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over a year ago

"its not even a given that they will be allowed into 3rd division.as of today sevco fc have not satisfied the sfa criteria regarding fit and proper person and business plan.can this get any better? jase"

Do you know what Sevco actually is?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

aye i know....its the biggest laughing stock in british football.the club with no name or shame!!

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"aye i know....its the biggest laughing stock in british football.the club with no name or shame!!"

AKA you don't have a fecking clue and will try act like the big man. Who do you support out of interest?

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over a year ago

"aye i know....its the biggest laughing stock in british football.the club with no name or shame!!

AKA you don't have a fecking clue and will try act like the big man. Who do you support out of interest? "
unlike you i dont tell everyone who i support as soon as they see your username.you said this is worst thing to happen to scottish economy.you havent a clue obviously.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"aye i know....its the biggest laughing stock in british football.the club with no name or shame!!

AKA you don't have a fecking clue and will try act like the big man. Who do you support out of interest? unlike you i dont tell everyone who i support as soon as they see your username.you said this is worst thing to happen to scottish economy.you havent a clue obviously."

Yes I feel millions of pounds lost and unemployment when clubs go down the tubes is a horrific thing for the Scottish economy. Sorry if I'm wrong and that sort of thing is actually beneficial. I'd assume you are a Celtic supporter.

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over a year ago

"aye i know....its the biggest laughing stock in british football.the club with no name or shame!!

How do you feel about non-payment of taxes? That cost jobs aswell.

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over a year ago

"aye i know....its the biggest laughing stock in british football.the club with no name or shame!!

How do you feel about non-payment of taxes? That cost jobs aswell."

Obviously non-payment of taxes is wrong. However, the staff all paid twit PAYE it was one man (Whyte) who never and now the entire club suffers. EBTs aswell, as I agree they were wrong, were NOT illegal. They were in the accounts every year for the world to see and the club at the time thought at the time there was nothing wrong with using them, hence why they lasted a decade.

Rangers it has already been admitted, are being made an example of. There are dozens and dozens of clubs who have similar problems with HMRC etc that hasn't made the news. That's why people should be careful when the usual pay your taxes quip comes out, as it could be their club who encounters problems next.

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By *ilandlarryCouple
over a year ago

more north lincs than mids!

Well, Dundee have been offered the 12th place in the SPL.

Still waiting to hear about the SPL2 business. We shall see.

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By *landAnnCouple
over a year ago

Inverness

Get over it.

Play by the rules, live by the rules.

If any other team in the SPL had been in the same position Rangers would have called for the same penalty.

No question.

Don't take it personally.

It's a game.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

this thread will be closed soon....such a shame

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By *tormountCouple
over a year ago

Your Town

Play by the rules, live by the rules.

You dont do irony, do you

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

rangers fans who blame everyone else for them being relagated need to get a grip, they werent bothered about other clubs when they were spending money they didnt have, now that theyre getting punished for what they deserve everyone else is wrong and they want special treatment. HOPE THEY BURN IN HELL !

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

jesus all so hatefull

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By *uirkygirlCouple
over a year ago

Quirkyville

Why so much hate when we should be loving.... It is after all a swingers site... I thought people on here left all of that football predjudice at the login page.............

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Some people have that much hatred for rangers, their fans etc they just cannot help themselves, bit sad but when it comes to not meeting people because they dont agree on a forum thread .Thats bigotry in my opinion saw it in the marches thread too

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over a year ago

I certainly wouldnt meet half the ppl posting in this and the other marches post for the simple fact that out of thier mouths come ignorance and hatred.....

that kinda person is not for us.....

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"rangers fans who blame everyone else for them being relagated need to get a grip, they werent bothered about other clubs when they were spending money they didnt have, now that theyre getting punished for what they deserve everyone else is wrong and they want special treatment. HOPE THEY BURN IN HELL !"

Burn in hell

You are an example of one of the biggest issues in this country

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over a year ago

"Some people have that much hatred for rangers, their fans etc they just cannot help themselves, bit sad but when it comes to not meeting people because they dont agree on a forum thread .Thats bigotry in my opinion saw it in the marches thread too"
rangers are my team and we deserve everything thats coming our way.wake up smell the coffee,we done wrong and we should be punished as seen fit.yes people are gloating but its not just the bigoted celtic supporters as you call them.every club in scotlandhave had there say but its only the bigoted celtic supporters that are targeted.ffs grow up

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The pies at our home games are worth the drop a wee division or 2 or 3

Ramsdan cups good too

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over a year ago

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over a year ago

"The pies at our home games are worth the drop a wee division or 2 or 3

Ramsdan cups good too

I was hoping dunfermline stayed up for culinary reasons myself, used to love those bridies.

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