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By *lasgow sth OP   Man
over a year ago

glasgow

Sweden hasn't locked down hasn't worn masks and now looks like they have herd immunity. They lost somewhere in the region of 6,000 dead Economy untouched. So have they called it right while everyone else has called it wrong and will now be left-wing misery and destroyed economic prospects for at least ten years????

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By *un44Man
over a year ago

GLASGOW

I dont think we will know who got it right for a couple of years, but I think a definite tell tale sign will be the second spike and how Sweden is affected.

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By *edGlasgowMan
over a year ago

Glasgow


"Sweden hasn't locked down hasn't worn masks and now looks like they have herd immunity. They lost somewhere in the region of 6,000 dead Economy untouched. So have they called it right while everyone else has called it wrong and will now be left-wing misery and destroyed economic prospects for at least ten years????"

No. New Zealand called it right. They didn't damage their economy nor did they "take the hit" of thousands of deaths.

How can it ever be right to let 6000 people die?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Interesting one this as Sweden actually has the fifth-highest death rate per capita in Europe, five times higher than neighbouring Denmark and about 10 times more than Norway and Finland. They stuck to what they believed on tho they are calling for the chief medical guy to resign because of the death rates so clearly the Swedish don't even think its been handled that well

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Do you mean a second lockdown or should have we lockdown in the first place?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Does Sweden and New Zealand not have their population spread out?

Plus

The loss of life is never a good thing but did we not lockdown so the NHS wasn't overwhelmed?

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By *eeling hot hot hotCouple
over a year ago

Ardrossan

Some sensible comments on here, thought out opinion.

It's good to see.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Does Sweden and New Zealand not have their population spread out?

Plus

The loss of life is never a good thing but did we not lockdown so the NHS wasn't overwhelmed?

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Yes it was to protect the NHS. The virus won’t go away until we have herd immunity or a vaccine so it looks like we are heading into winter with cases rising again and massive economic problems. We simply can’t afford another proper lockdown and it’s starting to show it was ineffective anyway as number rise again

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

No , people are fatigued by the continuous rule changes and now pretty much ignoring them ( some have flouted the rules from the start), time to let it run its course , let it do its worst, move the country on, get people back to work and normality again.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I said a long time ago , with rising populations we needed something to dramatically cull the world over population. Thought it would have been another world war but a virus will do the same job. Whether it's a virus or starvation or war it matters not, the world can't cope with the current rises in population. It's a simple fact.

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By *psmCouple
over a year ago

near arbroath

I’ve personally stayed in Sweden for a few months and allot of Swedish people kinda self isolate anyway unless I’m the big city like Stockholm.

There’s no pub culture out of the major cities either.

I was down in the south and you could drive for miles before you even seen another car.

New Zealand had the right idea but unfortunately I think the virus was already here before they knew it.

Well It was definitely in Scotland and kept hush hush by wee cranky

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By *indfkdWoman
over a year ago

glasgow

I am in no way an expert

But we live on an island, if we had properly isolated imports and people coming and going we may have not been affected as badly as we were

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By *eterjamesmcMan
over a year ago

glasgow

All of the people calling for herd immunity, let it run its course etc. Heres a thought exercise for you. We do the above but only you and yours suffer from the effects. Still quite so keen? Nope, didnt think so.

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By *edGlasgowMan
over a year ago

Glasgow


"I am in no way an expert

But we live on an island, if we had properly isolated imports and people coming and going we may have not been affected as badly as we were "

I'm the same. Surely if the airports etc were closed to all non residents at least, then the virus would hvve mad far less chanee to get into the country.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

We are slightly doing a herd immunity without realising it, but at the beginning when it was suggested everyone was up

In arms, it doesn’t matter what choices are made there will always be those disgruntled by the choices. We just have to hope and pray that our own little bubbles aren’t affected and deal with it when it comes. I thankfully only know a few folk who have been ill with it personally so haven’t had to deal with loss but I know of lots of families affected by lost loved ones and those who haven’t been able to say goodbye to the loved ones who perhaps died a little sooner from other things because the care wasn’t available

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By *ardonNWMan
over a year ago

South Lanarkshire

There isn't anything, anywhere that suggests that there is such a thing as herd immunity for Covid-19, there is no scientific proof of anti bodies, we already have examples of people having the virus twice. Sweden's economy hasn't been as badly affected as the UK, but it has taken a hit - it's a global pandemic, and we live in a world with a globally interconnected economy, and as for prospects we were going to be fucked by Brexit anyway.

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By *edeWoman
over a year ago

the abyss


"I am in no way an expert

But we live on an island, if we had properly isolated imports and people coming and going we may have not been affected as badly as we were

I'm the same. Surely if the airports etc were closed to all non residents at least, then the virus would hvve mad far less chanee to get into the country. "

The question is though - how long would we keep them closed? A few months? A year? Until a vaccine is made? Unfortunately we are an island that heavily depends on tourism to keep us going along with imports for many things

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Those who could and should be shielding, shield.

Everyone else needs to buckle up and ride it out. The wider implications for society and the fall out with regards to mental health and serious treatable illnesses (where people have been left undiagnosed for months) will be immeasurable.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

There is not a wide scale one answer fits all it requires to be managed and balanced. Lockdowns are not the way to go this just shows that there is no management or control and our health system cannot cope.

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By *ittle MortWoman
over a year ago

EDINBURGH

New Zealand

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By *ittle MortWoman
over a year ago

EDINBURGH

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By *ittle MortWoman
over a year ago

EDINBURGH


"There isn't anything, anywhere that suggests that there is such a thing as herd immunity for Covid-19, there is no scientific proof of anti bodies, we already have examples of people having the virus twice. Sweden's economy hasn't been as badly affected as the UK, but it has taken a hit - it's a global pandemic, and we live in a world with a globally interconnected economy, and as for prospects we were going to be fucked by Brexit anyway."

Thank you for being a voice of sanity

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

there are 10 places on the planet that did the lockdown properly..they closed everything and i mean everything..no airports .no one going into work.nothing at all.just supermarkets open...they were clear of it within 3 months..then they opened up the airports and back to square 1..its amazed me that the people in power thought leaving people flying in and out of the country would work out...

all air travel should be banned till this is sorted out,as well as the harbour's need to be cloesed too

also my favourite part about the usless twats in the downing street is"thats the pubs open ,go have a meal . we will pay half the bill"

3 weeks later

"see!!! its you guys going to the pub has pushed the numbers back up"

what were they expecting to happen, i dont understand the way these guys mock the public and push the blame back on to us, and still manage to get voted in

it might be a good idea to lock everything down across the planet but it will only work if everyone on the planet agree's ,which will prob never happen

then again there is nothing to say that that would achieve zero cases

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By *lasgow sth OP   Man
over a year ago

glasgow

It's amazing to see so many sensible answers on here and not one troll really well thought out replys I guess the answer is that there isn't one it's a lose lose situation.

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By *ighland gentlemanMan
over a year ago

Ardgay

If you pop the words Sweden, covid, care home into goo gle you will see that not everyone agrees that they did such a marvellous job of dealing with it

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

No death is acceptable but I would love to know the TRUE figures for the last few year without covid-19, with the changes/variances in how things are reported I don’t believe we’re being told the truth.

To say complete close the uk to the outside world that would’ve been pointless the virus has been here for way longer than we’re being told thanks to the Chinese governments coverup, the uk/Scottish governments also played a part in it.

Lockdown was aimed at not putting to much pressure on the health system and slow the spread not to stop it completely with pubs, schools, shops and gyms being reopened in phases all that’s happening is heard immunity at a slower rate that’s manageable and when it gets out of hand local restrictions will be put in place to slow it again.

Maybe we’ll get a vaccine maybe we won’t but we can’t live in fear as long as everyone follows the guidelines and does their bit we will recover.

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