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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

For the TV licence fee

Thank f...

We've paid long enough for shit programs, and funding scum employees, won't mention names, we know who they are.

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By *iewMan
Forum Mod
over a year ago

Angus & Findhorn

I like Line of Duty so I hope that continues if it's stops

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Mr has refused to pay it for some time now.

Occasionally tune in to Jeremy Vine on Radio 2 just to hear folk moan about first World stuff.

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By *unlad6976Man
over a year ago

Falkirk

In all honesty it's nowhere near worth the cash unfortunately

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

We haven't paid ours for ages.

And despite the letters they send about about someone visiting, I'm still waiting x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It's £13 a month for the BBC TV stations (personally I've yet to see anything on BBC 3 which isn't bollocks), BBC national and local radio stations and the BBC websites. More than worth less than 50p a day in my opinion.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I pay it and I think it's one of these things.... It's not until it's gone until people say ah remember the good auld days when you had BBC and no adverts and all that crap.

Bbc4 is great for stuff. Chas and Dave documentary is well worth watching

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By *aughty_Jack_ABZMan
over a year ago

Aberdeen

Couldn't disagree more.

I think the BBC is one of the UK's great institutions. I'd be happy to pay double the fee for such a great service.

Trustworthy. Unbiased. Talented. It does exactly what it's original DG and charter intended.

Inform. Educate. Entertain. For such a small fee too.

I've lived and worked in many places around the world and nothing compares to the BBC. Many of my foreign friends and colleagues wish they had something the even comes close to the service it provides.

News. Drama. Comedy. Investigations. Debate. Speaking truth to power. Advice. Analysis. Education. Music. IPlayer. Radio.The list goes on. It gives us so much for so little.

Of course there are plenty of shows and individuals I don't like. They've been swept up in the modern tide of political correctness. They over represent minority _iews. They make mistakes and poor judgements from time to time. Who doesn't?

You can please less than half the people less than half the time. That's no reason to stop trying.

To me the BBC, for all it's good and bad, is a cornerstone of British culture and society. Like the NHS, good manners and decency.

A world without Radio 4 ... is unthinkable ...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If the Tories are trying to get rid of it, that tells me all I need to know

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By *eefyBangerMan
over a year ago

edinburgh

It’s become nothing more than a left wing propaganda machine.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Can't remember the last time I watched anything on the BBC, but do pay it

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By *oldswarriorMan
over a year ago

Falkirk

A BBC subscription service is the way forward.

For years they have mascaraded the BBC licence fee as the Television licence fee.

They have produced some brilliant content over the years however these programmes are few and far between of late.

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By *imPamCouple
over a year ago

Edinburgh

Schrodinger's broadcaster. Too left/ too right/ too centre...too bad. We like it.

In today's subscription driven media the license fee seems a lot but at 50p a day...it's nothing.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Couldn't disagree more.

I think the BBC is one of the UK's great institutions. I'd be happy to pay double the fee for such a great service.

Trustworthy. Unbiased. Talented. It does exactly what it's original DG and charter intended.

Inform. Educate. Entertain. For such a small fee too.

I've lived and worked in many places around the world and nothing compares to the BBC. Many of my foreign friends and colleagues wish they had something the even comes close to the service it provides.

News. Drama. Comedy. Investigations. Debate. Speaking truth to power. Advice. Analysis. Education. Music. IPlayer. Radio.The list goes on. It gives us so much for so little.

Of course there are plenty of shows and individuals I don't like. They've been swept up in the modern tide of political correctness. They over represent minority _iews. They make mistakes and poor judgements from time to time. Who doesn't?

You can please less than half the people less than half the time. That's no reason to stop trying.

To me the BBC, for all it's good and bad, is a cornerstone of British culture and society. Like the NHS, good manners and decency.

A world without Radio 4 ... is unthinkable ... "

Cheers for your reply.

There are quite a few points we , as you say , disagree on.

It's not pleasing half the people though, a recent survey showed two thirds of people want rid of it, also there's many corner stones of British culture that's outdated and change is required.

Here's the thing though, you say you like lots of the content so you will be just as happy to pay a subscription fee instead of a licence fee I'm sure, you wouldn't lose out. But others that are not interested would not be forced to pay for your _iewing pleasure.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"If the Tories are trying to get rid of it, that tells me all I need to know

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And yet some people have claimed many times its biased , a Tory government supporter full of biased reporting especially where independence is concerned. Funny how it's the tories that are pushing to scrap it. Kind of blows those claims right out the water.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Schrodinger's broadcaster. Too left/ too right/ too centre...too bad. We like it.

In today's subscription driven media the license fee seems a lot but at 50p a day...it's nothing."

Tbh your right 50p a day is nothing but for me it's the principle . Let's start charging every person in the country 50p a day towards trains. We don't all use them but hey what difference does that make .

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By *ljamMan
over a year ago

Edinburgh


"Couldn't disagree more.

I think the BBC is one of the UK's great institutions. I'd be happy to pay double the fee for such a great service.

Trustworthy. Unbiased. Talented. It does exactly what it's original DG and charter intended.

Inform. Educate. Entertain. For such a small fee too.

I've lived and worked in many places around the world and nothing compares to the BBC. Many of my foreign friends and colleagues wish they had something the even comes close to the service it provides.

News. Drama. Comedy. Investigations. Debate. Speaking truth to power. Advice. Analysis. Education. Music. IPlayer. Radio.The list goes on. It gives us so much for so little.

Of course there are plenty of shows and individuals I don't like. They've been swept up in the modern tide of political correctness. They over represent minority _iews. They make mistakes and poor judgements from time to time. Who doesn't?

You can please less than half the people less than half the time. That's no reason to stop trying.

To me the BBC, for all it's good and bad, is a cornerstone of British culture and society. Like the NHS, good manners and decency.

A world without Radio 4 ... is unthinkable ... "

Agree with this 100%. And while the BBC isn't perfect at least it faces some measure of accountability as opposed to the rest of the media which often serves the narrow ideological agendas of incredibly wealthy owners like Rupert Murdoch. That's a problem for the Tories who are funded by such people.

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By *un44Man
over a year ago

GLASGOW

The BBC made 1.4 billion last year from its ownership of uktv, basically selling the programme that we paid for with the licence fee. It's a business not a public service. The license fee goes to the government to allow you to watch 'live'TV and that's passed to the BBC. If you watch on catch up (not iplayer) or you tube then no licence needed at this moment. But yeah its about time the fee went and the BBC stopped having their cake and eating it. Hopefully an end to the hyper inflated salary to those employed in it.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"We haven't paid ours for ages.

And despite the letters they send about about someone visiting, I'm still waiting x"

me too . Go bloody jail me then

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By *luebell888Woman
over a year ago

Glasgowish


"For the TV licence fee

Thank f...

We've paid long enough for shit programs, and funding scum employees, won't mention names, we know who they are."

Get a dog. No licence required and far more entertaining.

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By *uckOfTheBayMan
over a year ago

Mold


"For the TV licence fee

Thank f...

We've paid long enough for shit programs, and funding scum employees, won't mention names, we know who they are.

Get a dog. No licence required and far more entertaining."

How do you change channels on a dog?

But they are indeed a great excuse to get away from the gogglebox and enjoy the wonders of outdoors

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By *aughty_Jack_ABZMan
over a year ago

Aberdeen


"Couldn't disagree more.

I think the BBC is one of the UK's great institutions. I'd be happy to pay double the fee for such a great service.

Trustworthy. Unbiased. Talented. It does exactly what it's original DG and charter intended.

Inform. Educate. Entertain. For such a small fee too.

I've lived and worked in many places around the world and nothing compares to the BBC. Many of my foreign friends and colleagues wish they had something the even comes close to the service it provides.

News. Drama. Comedy. Investigations. Debate. Speaking truth to power. Advice. Analysis. Education. Music. IPlayer. Radio.The list goes on. It gives us so much for so little.

Of course there are plenty of shows and individuals I don't like. They've been swept up in the modern tide of political correctness. They over represent minority _iews. They make mistakes and poor judgements from time to time. Who doesn't?

You can please less than half the people less than half the time. That's no reason to stop trying.

To me the BBC, for all it's good and bad, is a cornerstone of British culture and society. Like the NHS, good manners and decency.

A world without Radio 4 ... is unthinkable ...

Cheers for your reply.

There are quite a few points we , as you say , disagree on.

It's not pleasing half the people though, a recent survey showed two thirds of people want rid of it, also there's many corner stones of British culture that's outdated and change is required.

Here's the thing though, you say you like lots of the content so you will be just as happy to pay a subscription fee instead of a licence fee I'm sure, you wouldn't lose out. But others that are not interested would not be forced to pay for your _iewing pleasure. "

You're welcome. I was principally disagreeing with your offensive and derogatory comments about the BBC and the staff and defending it and them. Not the license fee funding model.

You are quite right that one recent poll has shown 61% of people disagree with that model and I am one of them.

What you seem to fail to understand is that the BBC is a Public Broadcasting Service (PBS). That is the cornerstone of it's success and ability to generate unique content, in my _iew. Paid for by the public, delivering to the public. Just like the NHS.

The payment model is flawed and I understand and share your frustrations with it.

I'm not a mother but my taxes still pay for maternity services, I'm not disabled so why should I pay for...etc,etc. Your taxes and mine pay for a huge amount of services we will never use.

The selfish, I don't use it so refuse to pay for it attitude, can only lead to the collapse of modern society as we know it. I am over dramatising for effect, but it is a public service.

Your suggestion of a subscription service is naive and ignorant. Apologies for being blunt.

An 'opt in' subscription service simply would not work. The BBC would simply become another media company in a saturated market. Run solely for profit and shareholder return. The quality would be degraded. Risk avoided. Failure would not be an option. Vast amounts of the great content I have enjoyed would never have seen the light of a TV screen or tablet without the uniquely British PBS model. Many of the great talents that have flourished at the BBC and gone on to greater success would never have been nurtured in a purely capitalist market.

Most importantly, it could no longer be independent, unbiased and trustworthy.

I do like some of the content of the BBC and dislike some of it. We are all individuals and all have different tastes.

The power and uniqueness of an independent, publicly funded BBC, is for me, that it tries to cater for all of us. It nurtures amazing creatives and gives them a safe place to shine and to fail, but try again.

That to me is worth funding, one way or another, wouldn't you agree?

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By *aughty_Jack_ABZMan
over a year ago

Aberdeen


"If the Tories are trying to get rid of it, that tells me all I need to know

And yet some people have claimed many times its biased , a Tory government supporter full of biased reporting especially where independence is concerned. Funny how it's the tories that are pushing to scrap it. Kind of blows those claims right out the water. "

You have ironically exalted the very 'unbiased' and 'balanced' content of the BBC 'scum' that you are clumsily criticising. Well done.

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By *entralscotscpl7Couple
over a year ago

Falkirk


"Couldn't disagree more.

I think the BBC is one of the UK's great institutions. I'd be happy to pay double the fee for such a great service.

Trustworthy. Unbiased. Talented. It does exactly what it's original DG and charter intended.

Inform. Educate. Entertain. For such a small fee too.

I've lived and worked in many places around the world and nothing compares to the BBC. Many of my foreign friends and colleagues wish they had something the even comes close to the service it provides.

News. Drama. Comedy. Investigations. Debate. Speaking truth to power. Advice. Analysis. Education. Music. IPlayer. Radio.The list goes on. It gives us so much for so little.

Of course there are plenty of shows and individuals I don't like. They've been swept up in the modern tide of political correctness. They over represent minority _iews. They make mistakes and poor judgements from time to time. Who doesn't?

You can please less than half the people less than half the time. That's no reason to stop trying.

To me the BBC, for all it's good and bad, is a cornerstone of British culture and society. Like the NHS, good manners and decency.

A world without Radio 4 ... is unthinkable ...

Cheers for your reply.

There are quite a few points we , as you say , disagree on.

It's not pleasing half the people though, a recent survey showed two thirds of people want rid of it, also there's many corner stones of British culture that's outdated and change is required.

Here's the thing though, you say you like lots of the content so you will be just as happy to pay a subscription fee instead of a licence fee I'm sure, you wouldn't lose out. But others that are not interested would not be forced to pay for your _iewing pleasure.

You're welcome. I was principally disagreeing with your offensive and derogatory comments about the BBC and the staff and defending it and them. Not the license fee funding model.

You are quite right that one recent poll has shown 61% of people disagree with that model and I am one of them.

What you seem to fail to understand is that the BBC is a Public Broadcasting Service (PBS). That is the cornerstone of it's success and ability to generate unique content, in my _iew. Paid for by the public, delivering to the public. Just like the NHS.

The payment model is flawed and I understand and share your frustrations with it.

I'm not a mother but my taxes still pay for maternity services, I'm not disabled so why should I pay for...etc,etc. Your taxes and mine pay for a huge amount of services we will never use.

The selfish, I don't use it so refuse to pay for it attitude, can only lead to the collapse of modern society as we know it. I am over dramatising for effect, but it is a public service.

Your suggestion of a subscription service is naive and ignorant. Apologies for being blunt.

An 'opt in' subscription service simply would not work. The BBC would simply become another media company in a saturated market. Run solely for profit and shareholder return. The quality would be degraded. Risk avoided. Failure would not be an option. Vast amounts of the great content I have enjoyed would never have seen the light of a TV screen or tablet without the uniquely British PBS model. Many of the great talents that have flourished at the BBC and gone on to greater success would never have been nurtured in a purely capitalist market.

Most importantly, it could no longer be independent, unbiased and trustworthy.

I do like some of the content of the BBC and dislike some of it. We are all individuals and all have different tastes.

The power and uniqueness of an independent, publicly funded BBC, is for me, that it tries to cater for all of us. It nurtures amazing creatives and gives them a safe place to shine and to fail, but try again.

That to me is worth funding, one way or another, wouldn't you agree?

"

Would your life suffer if the BBC abolished?

It is after all a luxury.

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By *hy and innocentCouple
over a year ago

Glasgow


"I like Line of Duty so I hope that continues if it's stops "

I've only just discovered this! Caught up as far as series 4.

Innocent

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Couldn't disagree more.

I think the BBC is one of the UK's great institutions. I'd be happy to pay double the fee for such a great service.

Trustworthy. Unbiased. Talented. It does exactly what it's original DG and charter intended.

Inform. Educate. Entertain. For such a small fee too.

I've lived and worked in many places around the world and nothing compares to the BBC. Many of my foreign friends and colleagues wish they had something the even comes close to the service it provides.

News. Drama. Comedy. Investigations. Debate. Speaking truth to power. Advice. Analysis. Education. Music. IPlayer. Radio.The list goes on. It gives us so much for so little.

Of course there are plenty of shows and individuals I don't like. They've been swept up in the modern tide of political correctness. They over represent minority _iews. They make mistakes and poor judgements from time to time. Who doesn't?

You can please less than half the people less than half the time. That's no reason to stop trying.

To me the BBC, for all it's good and bad, is a cornerstone of British culture and society. Like the NHS, good manners and decency.

A world without Radio 4 ... is unthinkable ...

Cheers for your reply.

There are quite a few points we , as you say , disagree on.

It's not pleasing half the people though, a recent survey showed two thirds of people want rid of it, also there's many corner stones of British culture that's outdated and change is required.

Here's the thing though, you say you like lots of the content so you will be just as happy to pay a subscription fee instead of a licence fee I'm sure, you wouldn't lose out. But others that are not interested would not be forced to pay for your _iewing pleasure.

You're welcome. I was principally disagreeing with your offensive and derogatory comments about the BBC and the staff and defending it and them. Not the license fee funding model.

You are quite right that one recent poll has shown 61% of people disagree with that model and I am one of them.

What you seem to fail to understand is that the BBC is a Public Broadcasting Service (PBS). That is the cornerstone of it's success and ability to generate unique content, in my _iew. Paid for by the public, delivering to the public. Just like the NHS.

The payment model is flawed and I understand and share your frustrations with it.

I'm not a mother but my taxes still pay for maternity services, I'm not disabled so why should I pay for...etc,etc. Your taxes and mine pay for a huge amount of services we will never use.

The selfish, I don't use it so refuse to pay for it attitude, can only lead to the collapse of modern society as we know it. I am over dramatising for effect, but it is a public service.

Your suggestion of a subscription service is naive and ignorant. Apologies for being blunt.

An 'opt in' subscription service simply would not work. The BBC would simply become another media company in a saturated market. Run solely for profit and shareholder return. The quality would be degraded. Risk avoided. Failure would not be an option. Vast amounts of the great content I have enjoyed would never have seen the light of a TV screen or tablet without the uniquely British PBS model. Many of the great talents that have flourished at the BBC and gone on to greater success would never have been nurtured in a purely capitalist market.

Most importantly, it could no longer be independent, unbiased and trustworthy.

I do like some of the content of the BBC and dislike some of it. We are all individuals and all have different tastes.

The power and uniqueness of an independent, publicly funded BBC, is for me, that it tries to cater for all of us. It nurtures amazing creatives and gives them a safe place to shine and to fail, but try again.

That to me is worth funding, one way or another, wouldn't you agree?

"

Mate , you need to have a closer look at this.

As a corporation they recieve billions from government funding.

They pay zero corporation tax.

They use multiple different companies from production companies right down to catering and cleaning companies. Many of these the companies they contract in, use off shore tax avoiding schemes. Fact !!

The BBC pay vast wages to staff above 150k per annum for the simple reason it put them above and out of reach of any freedom of information requests. Fact !!

Your point I accept about where my taxes go , ie to many services I will never use but your flaw is , I don't mind my tax going to the nhs because I will through neccecity need their services at some point . Passengers in cars don't pay road tax.

Why should I pay a tax because I have a tv. ?

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By *ufflinkslaceMan
over a year ago

glasgow

I don't really have an issue with the concept of TV licencing but I do have an issue on how it is spent.

My biggest frustration was a couple of years ago finding out that Gary Linekers salary for presenting match of the day was higher than the entire BBC budget for all of scottish sport.

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By *artyanna16200TV/TS
over a year ago

leeds

Actually i firmly believe the complete opposite is true . You only have to see the repeat guests on the QT panel , kuehnnsbergs pre postal vote predictions for the tories winning the election, cosying up to boris , and the whole debacle of no firm questioning over the shambolic shameful and corrupt provision of contracts for PPE etc to cabinet cronies through lockdown. The smearing of corbyn and williamson, which they gleefully regurgitated following panorama stitch up, BBC is state mouthpiece for tory propaganda and that is no better than russia or china or brazil poland hungary etc .

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By *exmadcouple42Couple
over a year ago

Home

We haven't paid TV licence for 7 years, me and family don't watch live TV, we have a smart TV in all rooms we stream movies and have subscriptions to Netflix, prime and pay through the nose for sky Internet and movies /Disney, so we pay enough for what we watch when we decide to watch movies.

And before anyone says anything it was TV licence themselves who came to visit my house to give me my exempt letter and every year a new one gets sent out as they monitor who does and who doesn't watch live TV and we clearly don't .

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By *implyJayGeeMan
over a year ago

Garthamlock

Those fees paid for useful things like Gary Linekers 1.8 million wage and an £80 million pound brand new set for eastenders. Totally worth the money!!

Said no one ever.

I don’t pay it. I won’t line the pockets of an organisation that clearly has agendas. I don’t watch live TV programmes, the only time my tv is used is by the wee one to watch Disney plus so they can absolutely bite ma banger.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Political correctness has killed it off. They have over represented the minorities and continually jumped to the loudest whistle unfortunately. Their demise is their own doing.

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By *uietbloke67Man
over a year ago

outside your bedroom window ;-)

For those who wish to see the demise of the BBC then you only have to look across the water to America and see how the Australian Murdoch has influenced American politics woth FOX news. No FOX news right wing propaganda then no Trump.

The BBC might not be perfect and those who wish to disband it will readily point out its failings however for the most part it is neutral, unlike or Murdock owned press.

It does bring you content that is very watchable on occasion....some dross too.

Any in doubt, watch the BBC programme in Murdoch and his empire and then you might just understad why Murdoch and his empire aspire to bring it down.

If you want an unelected Autrlian to further run out country and do not be kidded, he brought you the last 30 years of government and Brexit, the fall into his trap.

A very old saying and a very clever saying.

Always be careful what you wish for.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Historically, I liked to think of the fee as being a subsidy for others who couldn't afford Sky, cable, ppv, etc. With the rise of Free _iew I guess that's no longer the case and it gets harder to justify.

Having said that, advertising on other channels makes so many things fundamentally unwatchable that I would be prepared to pay to do away with the interruptions.

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