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"UPDATE ON SCOTLAND'S LOCKDOWN EASING *Depend on virus suppression* Travel restrictions eased 3rd July Hairdressers 15 July Beer gardens 6 July Restaurants restricted reopen 15 July Holiday homes & caravans open 3 July 15th July meet household indoors Shopping centres 13 July Full document here... https://www.gov.scot/publications/coronavirus-covid-19-update-first-ministers-speech-24-june-2020/ " Thanks for the update sir  | |||
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"Thx for the update but it's just almost exactly what I said 10 weeks ago. Oor wee savvy Nicola will follow Bojo's every move but will delay doing the same as him by roughly 2 -3 weeks. (TBF i said a week to 10 days ) . This has fuck all to do with how the virus is spreading it's simply to cover her arse and avoid blame if it returns a second wave. She can say , well I waited 2 weeks longer so blame Engerlund for its return . Shes a coward pure and simple. She dosnt give a hoot about businesses or people's lives being impacted not to mention the disadvantages of businesses north of the border by delaying her copy catting. It's all politics pure and simple. "You must not know we are 2 to 3 weeks behind in the spike of the virus,so she is only going with what she is being advised to do | |||
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"Thx for the update but it's just almost exactly what I said 10 weeks ago. Oor wee savvy Nicola will follow Bojo's every move but will delay doing the same as him by roughly 2 -3 weeks. (TBF i said a week to 10 days ) . This has fuck all to do with how the virus is spreading it's simply to cover her arse and avoid blame if it returns a second wave. She can say , well I waited 2 weeks longer so blame Engerlund for its return . Shes a coward pure and simple. She dosnt give a hoot about businesses or people's lives being impacted not to mention the disadvantages of businesses north of the border by delaying her copy catting. It's all politics pure and simple.
You must not know we are 2 to 3 weeks behind in the spike of the virus,so she is only going with what she is being advised to do "And to say she is a coward and doesn't care about ppls lives is a disgrace bit like yourself | |||
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"Thx for the update but it's just almost exactly what I said 10 weeks ago. Oor wee savvy Nicola will follow Bojo's every move but will delay doing the same as him by roughly 2 -3 weeks. (TBF i said a week to 10 days ) . This has fuck all to do with how the virus is spreading it's simply to cover her arse and avoid blame if it returns a second wave. She can say , well I waited 2 weeks longer so blame Engerlund for its return . Shes a coward pure and simple. She dosnt give a hoot about businesses or people's lives being impacted not to mention the disadvantages of businesses north of the border by delaying her copy catting. It's all politics pure and simple.
You must not know we are 2 to 3 weeks behind in the spike of the virus,so she is only going with what she is being advised to do
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"Thx for the update but it's just almost exactly what I said 10 weeks ago. Oor wee savvy Nicola will follow Bojo's every move but will delay doing the same as him by roughly 2 -3 weeks. (TBF i said a week to 10 days ) . This has fuck all to do with how the virus is spreading it's simply to cover her arse and avoid blame if it returns a second wave. She can say , well I waited 2 weeks longer so blame Engerlund for its return . Shes a coward pure and simple. She dosnt give a hoot about businesses or people's lives being impacted not to mention the disadvantages of businesses north of the border by delaying her copy catting. It's all politics pure and simple. "You make perfect sense. Said no one ever! | |||
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"Thx for the update but it's just almost exactly what I said 10 weeks ago. Oor wee savvy Nicola will follow Bojo's every move but will delay doing the same as him by roughly 2 -3 weeks. (TBF i said a week to 10 days ) . This has fuck all to do with how the virus is spreading it's simply to cover her arse and avoid blame if it returns a second wave. She can say , well I waited 2 weeks longer so blame Engerlund for its return . Shes a coward pure and simple. She dosnt give a hoot about businesses or people's lives being impacted not to mention the disadvantages of businesses north of the border by delaying her copy catting. It's all politics pure and simple.
You must not know we are 2 to 3 weeks behind in the spike of the virus,so she is only going with what she is being advised to do "I think if you go back roughly 10 weeks ago nobody knew when the spike would be, The 2nd minister Nicola said she would decide when lockdown restrictions would end in Scotland. I guess I just got lucky 10 weeks ago when I said the 2nd minister Nicola would follow Bojo's every move just a short time later. Shes playing a game, shes always played games, from the campaign to reject Brexit , so she could have another excuse to strengthen her independence movement. Shes what is known in Scotland as a canny wee lassie. | |||
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"Thx for the update but it's just almost exactly what I said 10 weeks ago. Oor wee savvy Nicola will follow Bojo's every move but will delay doing the same as him by roughly 2 -3 weeks. (TBF i said a week to 10 days ) . This has fuck all to do with how the virus is spreading it's simply to cover her arse and avoid blame if it returns a second wave. She can say , well I waited 2 weeks longer so blame Engerlund for its return . Shes a coward pure and simple. She dosnt give a hoot about businesses or people's lives being impacted not to mention the disadvantages of businesses north of the border by delaying her copy catting. It's all politics pure and simple.
You must not know we are 2 to 3 weeks behind in the spike of the virus,so she is only going with what she is being advised to do
I think if you go back roughly 10 weeks ago nobody knew when the spike would be, The 2nd minister Nicola said she would decide when lockdown restrictions would end in Scotland. I guess I just got lucky 10 weeks ago when I said the 2nd minister Nicola would follow Bojo's every move just a short time later. Shes playing a game, shes always played games, from the campaign to reject Brexit , so she could have another excuse to strengthen her independence movement. Shes what is known in Scotland as a canny wee lassie.
"I actually think under the circumstances she's done great. And I'm actually back to work before similar places in England so we aren't behind now. She's lead well and made very difficult discussions. Given no one has ever dealt with a pandemic like this before I think she has held her own and be present at briefings every day unlike boris!! I'd rather Nicola all day long! But hey we're all entitled to our opinion. | |||
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"Thx for the update but it's just almost exactly what I said 10 weeks ago. Oor wee savvy Nicola will follow Bojo's every move but will delay doing the same as him by roughly 2 -3 weeks. (TBF i said a week to 10 days ) . This has fuck all to do with how the virus is spreading it's simply to cover her arse and avoid blame if it returns a second wave. She can say , well I waited 2 weeks longer so blame Engerlund for its return . Shes a coward pure and simple. She dosnt give a hoot about businesses or people's lives being impacted not to mention the disadvantages of businesses north of the border by delaying her copy catting. It's all politics pure and simple. "Have a beer pal. Chill. People are still dying and it will get worse in England because they blinked first. | |||
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"I'm not hard core SNP by any stretch of the imagination but she was onto a hiding whichever way she handled this. Relax lockdown before England "oh, look at wee Nippy trying to make her mark....Scotland will not be dictated too..." Relax lockdown after England ",oh look at wee Nippy, pretending to make her mark but following BJ's lead". Important thing is we're seeing some light at the end of the tunnel." Is it light at the end of the tunnel or is it a train heading straight for us  | |||
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"I'm not hard core SNP by any stretch of the imagination but she was onto a hiding whichever way she handled this. Relax lockdown before England "oh, look at wee Nippy trying to make her mark....Scotland will not be dictated too..." Relax lockdown after England ",oh look at wee Nippy, pretending to make her mark but following BJ's lead". Important thing is we're seeing some light at the end of the tunnel. Is it light at the end of the tunnel or is it a train heading straight for us "Ffs...you're a right wee fucking  you, aren't ye?! | |||
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"I'm not hard core SNP by any stretch of the imagination but she was onto a hiding whichever way she handled this. Relax lockdown before England "oh, look at wee Nippy trying to make her mark....Scotland will not be dictated too..." Relax lockdown after England ",oh look at wee Nippy, pretending to make her mark but following BJ's lead". Important thing is we're seeing some light at the end of the tunnel. Is it light at the end of the tunnel or is it a train heading straight for us
Ffs...you're a right wee fucking you, aren't ye?!"You just lie down in the middle of the track | |||
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"Thx for the update but it's just almost exactly what I said 10 weeks ago. Oor wee savvy Nicola will follow Bojo's every move but will delay doing the same as him by roughly 2 -3 weeks. (TBF i said a week to 10 days ) . This has fuck all to do with how the virus is spreading it's simply to cover her arse and avoid blame if it returns a second wave. She can say , well I waited 2 weeks longer so blame Engerlund for its return . Shes a coward pure and simple. She dosnt give a hoot about businesses or people's lives being impacted not to mention the disadvantages of businesses north of the border by delaying her copy catting. It's all politics pure and simple.
You must not know we are 2 to 3 weeks behind in the spike of the virus,so she is only going with what she is being advised to do
I think if you go back roughly 10 weeks ago nobody knew when the spike would be, The 2nd minister Nicola said she would decide when lockdown restrictions would end in Scotland. I guess I just got lucky 10 weeks ago when I said the 2nd minister Nicola would follow Bojo's every move just a short time later. Shes playing a game, shes always played games, from the campaign to reject Brexit , so she could have another excuse to strengthen her independence movement. Shes what is known in Scotland as a canny wee lassie.
I actually think under the circumstances she's done great. And I'm actually back to work before similar places in England so we aren't behind now. She's lead well and made very difficult discussions. Given no one has ever dealt with a pandemic like this before I think she has held her own and be present at briefings every day unlike boris!! I'd rather Nicola all day long! But hey we're all entitled to our opinion. "I actually agree with you on what you say, I'm just sceptical behind her motivations on following 2-3 weeks behind Bojo. I don't believe she's simply following the experts advice on this. Shes setting herself up in a win win political situation at the expense of the Scottish people. If there is a 2nd wave she can blame bojo for coming out too soon ,win as someone else to take the blame , this sets up another reason for independence, win again. The stats show Scotland is not in a worse position than England where covid is concerned so why the delay relaxing restrictions . That's my point. | |||
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"Thx for the update but it's just almost exactly what I said 10 weeks ago. Oor wee savvy Nicola will follow Bojo's every move but will delay doing the same as him by roughly 2 -3 weeks. (TBF i said a week to 10 days ) . This has fuck all to do with how the virus is spreading it's simply to cover her arse and avoid blame if it returns a second wave. She can say , well I waited 2 weeks longer so blame Engerlund for its return . Shes a coward pure and simple. She dosnt give a hoot about businesses or people's lives being impacted not to mention the disadvantages of businesses north of the border by delaying her copy catting. It's all politics pure and simple.
You must not know we are 2 to 3 weeks behind in the spike of the virus,so she is only going with what she is being advised to do
I think if you go back roughly 10 weeks ago nobody knew when the spike would be, The 2nd minister Nicola said she would decide when lockdown restrictions would end in Scotland. I guess I just got lucky 10 weeks ago when I said the 2nd minister Nicola would follow Bojo's every move just a short time later. Shes playing a game, shes always played games, from the campaign to reject Brexit , so she could have another excuse to strengthen her independence movement. Shes what is known in Scotland as a canny wee lassie.
I actually think under the circumstances she's done great. And I'm actually back to work before similar places in England so we aren't behind now. She's lead well and made very difficult discussions. Given no one has ever dealt with a pandemic like this before I think she has held her own and be present at briefings every day unlike boris!! I'd rather Nicola all day long! But hey we're all entitled to our opinion.
I actually agree with you on what you say, I'm just sceptical behind her motivations on following 2-3 weeks behind Bojo. I don't believe she's simply following the experts advice on this. Shes setting herself up in a win win political situation at the expense of the Scottish people. If there is a 2nd wave she can blame bojo for coming out too soon ,win as someone else to take the blame , this sets up another reason for independence, win again. The stats show Scotland is not in a worse position than England where covid is concerned so why the delay relaxing restrictions . That's my point."It's not IF there is a second wave there will be a second wave but we don't know when, remember Scotland is 2 to 3 weeks behind England with the virus. To say she doesn't care about people is a bit harsh. | |||
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"Thx for the update but it's just almost exactly what I said 10 weeks ago. Oor wee savvy Nicola will follow Bojo's every move but will delay doing the same as him by roughly 2 -3 weeks. (TBF i said a week to 10 days ) . This has fuck all to do with how the virus is spreading it's simply to cover her arse and avoid blame if it returns a second wave. She can say , well I waited 2 weeks longer so blame Engerlund for its return . Shes a coward pure and simple. She dosnt give a hoot about businesses or people's lives being impacted not to mention the disadvantages of businesses north of the border by delaying her copy catting. It's all politics pure and simple.
You must not know we are 2 to 3 weeks behind in the spike of the virus,so she is only going with what she is being advised to do
I think if you go back roughly 10 weeks ago nobody knew when the spike would be, The 2nd minister Nicola said she would decide when lockdown restrictions would end in Scotland. I guess I just got lucky 10 weeks ago when I said the 2nd minister Nicola would follow Bojo's every move just a short time later. Shes playing a game, shes always played games, from the campaign to reject Brexit , so she could have another excuse to strengthen her independence movement. Shes what is known in Scotland as a canny wee lassie.
I actually think under the circumstances she's done great. And I'm actually back to work before similar places in England so we aren't behind now. She's lead well and made very difficult discussions. Given no one has ever dealt with a pandemic like this before I think she has held her own and be present at briefings every day unlike boris!! I'd rather Nicola all day long! But hey we're all entitled to our opinion.
I actually agree with you on what you say, I'm just sceptical behind her motivations on following 2-3 weeks behind Bojo. I don't believe she's simply following the experts advice on this. Shes setting herself up in a win win political situation at the expense of the Scottish people. If there is a 2nd wave she can blame bojo for coming out too soon ,win as someone else to take the blame , this sets up another reason for independence, win again. The stats show Scotland is not in a worse position than England where covid is concerned so why the delay relaxing restrictions . That's my point.
It's not IF there is a second wave there will be a second wave but we don't know when, remember Scotland is 2 to 3 weeks behind England with the virus. To say she doesn't care about people is a bit harsh. "Fair enough, I will say that was a bit harsh of me and not quite meant in the way it sounded. I don't think she cares about the peoples views about getting businesses back open, mental health issues have gone through the roof with people seeking professional help because of lockdown , and she , in my opinion plays political games, stalling over lifting restrictions for personal gain. Bare in mind , she screwed up right at the start by not announcing the potential outbreak at the Edinburgh hotel. I think people seem to forget the bad decisions and focus on only the good. | |||
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"Thx for the update but it's just almost exactly what I said 10 weeks ago. Oor wee savvy Nicola will follow Bojo's every move but will delay doing the same as him by roughly 2 -3 weeks. (TBF i said a week to 10 days ) . This has fuck all to do with how the virus is spreading it's simply to cover her arse and avoid blame if it returns a second wave. She can say , well I waited 2 weeks longer so blame Engerlund for its return . Shes a coward pure and simple. She dosnt give a hoot about businesses or people's lives being impacted not to mention the disadvantages of businesses north of the border by delaying her copy catting. It's all politics pure and simple.
You must not know we are 2 to 3 weeks behind in the spike of the virus,so she is only going with what she is being advised to do
I think if you go back roughly 10 weeks ago nobody knew when the spike would be, The 2nd minister Nicola said she would decide when lockdown restrictions would end in Scotland. I guess I just got lucky 10 weeks ago when I said the 2nd minister Nicola would follow Bojo's every move just a short time later. Shes playing a game, shes always played games, from the campaign to reject Brexit , so she could have another excuse to strengthen her independence movement. Shes what is known in Scotland as a canny wee lassie.
I actually think under the circumstances she's done great. And I'm actually back to work before similar places in England so we aren't behind now. She's lead well and made very difficult discussions. Given no one has ever dealt with a pandemic like this before I think she has held her own and be present at briefings every day unlike boris!! I'd rather Nicola all day long! But hey we're all entitled to our opinion.
I actually agree with you on what you say, I'm just sceptical behind her motivations on following 2-3 weeks behind Bojo. I don't believe she's simply following the experts advice on this. Shes setting herself up in a win win political situation at the expense of the Scottish people. If there is a 2nd wave she can blame bojo for coming out too soon ,win as someone else to take the blame , this sets up another reason for independence, win again. The stats show Scotland is not in a worse position than England where covid is concerned so why the delay relaxing restrictions . That's my point.
It's not IF there is a second wave there will be a second wave but we don't know when, remember Scotland is 2 to 3 weeks behind England with the virus. To say she doesn't care about people is a bit harsh. "I dont think there will be a second wave, yes perhaps some localised outbreaks but that's not an overwhelming wave. Thee is going to be small clusters of outbreaks for years to come. The 2-3 week delays are NEVER going to prevent that. | |||
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"Thx for the update but it's just almost exactly what I said 10 weeks ago. Oor wee savvy Nicola will follow Bojo's every move but will delay doing the same as him by roughly 2 -3 weeks. (TBF i said a week to 10 days ) . This has fuck all to do with how the virus is spreading it's simply to cover her arse and avoid blame if it returns a second wave. She can say , well I waited 2 weeks longer so blame Engerlund for its return . Shes a coward pure and simple. She dosnt give a hoot about businesses or people's lives being impacted not to mention the disadvantages of businesses north of the border by delaying her copy catting. It's all politics pure and simple.
You must not know we are 2 to 3 weeks behind in the spike of the virus,so she is only going with what she is being advised to do
I think if you go back roughly 10 weeks ago nobody knew when the spike would be, The 2nd minister Nicola said she would decide when lockdown restrictions would end in Scotland. I guess I just got lucky 10 weeks ago when I said the 2nd minister Nicola would follow Bojo's every move just a short time later. Shes playing a game, shes always played games, from the campaign to reject Brexit , so she could have another excuse to strengthen her independence movement. Shes what is known in Scotland as a canny wee lassie.
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"Thx for the update but it's just almost exactly what I said 10 weeks ago. Oor wee savvy Nicola will follow Bojo's every move but will delay doing the same as him by roughly 2 -3 weeks. (TBF i said a week to 10 days ) . This has fuck all to do with how the virus is spreading it's simply to cover her arse and avoid blame if it returns a second wave. She can say , well I waited 2 weeks longer so blame Engerlund for its return . Shes a coward pure and simple. She dosnt give a hoot about businesses or people's lives being impacted not to mention the disadvantages of businesses north of the border by delaying her copy catting. It's all politics pure and simple.
You must not know we are 2 to 3 weeks behind in the spike of the virus,so she is only going with what she is being advised to do
I think if you go back roughly 10 weeks ago nobody knew when the spike would be, The 2nd minister Nicola said she would decide when lockdown restrictions would end in Scotland. I guess I just got lucky 10 weeks ago when I said the 2nd minister Nicola would follow Bojo's every move just a short time later. Shes playing a game, shes always played games, from the campaign to reject Brexit , so she could have another excuse to strengthen her independence movement. Shes what is known in Scotland as a canny wee lassie.
I think you will find the independence movement is much bigger than the SNP, ya canny wee laddie "Not according to the last vote but that's perhaps for a separate thread. | |||
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"Thx for the update but it's just almost exactly what I said 10 weeks ago. Oor wee savvy Nicola will follow Bojo's every move but will delay doing the same as him by roughly 2 -3 weeks. (TBF i said a week to 10 days ) . This has fuck all to do with how the virus is spreading it's simply to cover her arse and avoid blame if it returns a second wave. She can say , well I waited 2 weeks longer so blame Engerlund for its return . Shes a coward pure and simple. She dosnt give a hoot about businesses or people's lives being impacted not to mention the disadvantages of businesses north of the border by delaying her copy catting. It's all politics pure and simple.
You must not know we are 2 to 3 weeks behind in the spike of the virus,so she is only going with what she is being advised to do
I think if you go back roughly 10 weeks ago nobody knew when the spike would be, The 2nd minister Nicola said she would decide when lockdown restrictions would end in Scotland. I guess I just got lucky 10 weeks ago when I said the 2nd minister Nicola would follow Bojo's every move just a short time later. Shes playing a game, shes always played games, from the campaign to reject Brexit , so she could have another excuse to strengthen her independence movement. Shes what is known in Scotland as a canny wee lassie.
I actually think under the circumstances she's done great. And I'm actually back to work before similar places in England so we aren't behind now. She's lead well and made very difficult discussions. Given no one has ever dealt with a pandemic like this before I think she has held her own and be present at briefings every day unlike boris!! I'd rather Nicola all day long! But hey we're all entitled to our opinion.
I actually agree with you on what you say, I'm just sceptical behind her motivations on following 2-3 weeks behind Bojo. I don't believe she's simply following the experts advice on this. Shes setting herself up in a win win political situation at the expense of the Scottish people. If there is a 2nd wave she can blame bojo for coming out too soon ,win as someone else to take the blame , this sets up another reason for independence, win again. The stats show Scotland is not in a worse position than England where covid is concerned so why the delay relaxing restrictions . That's my point.
It's not IF there is a second wave there will be a second wave but we don't know when, remember Scotland is 2 to 3 weeks behind England with the virus. To say she doesn't care about people is a bit harsh.
Fair enough, I will say that was a bit harsh of me and not quite meant in the way it sounded. I don't think she cares about the peoples views about getting businesses back open, mental health issues have gone through the roof with people seeking professional help because of lockdown , and she , in my opinion plays political games, stalling over lifting restrictions for personal gain. Bare in mind , she screwed up right at the start by not announcing the potential outbreak at the Edinburgh hotel. I think people seem to forget the bad decisions and focus on only the good."Do you also think the welsh and north of ireland goverments are playing games for personal gain ? | |||
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"Thx for the update but it's just almost exactly what I said 10 weeks ago. Oor wee savvy Nicola will follow Bojo's every move but will delay doing the same as him by roughly 2 -3 weeks. (TBF i said a week to 10 days ) . This has fuck all to do with how the virus is spreading it's simply to cover her arse and avoid blame if it returns a second wave. She can say , well I waited 2 weeks longer so blame Engerlund for its return . Shes a coward pure and simple. She dosnt give a hoot about businesses or people's lives being impacted not to mention the disadvantages of businesses north of the border by delaying her copy catting. It's all politics pure and simple.
You must not know we are 2 to 3 weeks behind in the spike of the virus,so she is only going with what she is being advised to do
I think if you go back roughly 10 weeks ago nobody knew when the spike would be, The 2nd minister Nicola said she would decide when lockdown restrictions would end in Scotland. I guess I just got lucky 10 week ago when I said the 2nd minister Nicola would follow Bojo's every move just a short time later. Shes playing a game, shes always played games, from the campaign to reject Brexit , so she could have another excuse to strengthen her independence movement. Shes what is known in Scotland as a canny wee lassie.
I actually think under the circumstances she's done great. And I'm actually back to work before similar places in England so we aren't behind now. She's lead well and made very difficult discussions. Given no one has ever dealt with a pandemic like this before I think she has held her own and be present at briefings every day unlike boris!! I'd rather Nicola all day long! But hey we're all entitled to our opinion.
I actually agree with you on what you say, I'm just sceptical behind her motivations on following 2-3 weeks behind Bojo. I don't believe she's simply following the experts advice on this. Shes setting herself up in a win win political situation at the expense of the Scottish people. If there is a 2nd wave she can blame bojo for coming out too soon ,win as someone else to take the blame , this sets up another reason for independence, win again. The stats show Scotland is not in a worse position than England where covid is concerned so why the delay relaxing restrictions . That's my point.
It's not IF there is a second wave there will be a second wave but we don't know when, remember Scotland is 2 to 3 weeks behind England with the virus. To say she doesn't care about people is a bit harsh.
I dont think there will be a second wave, yes perhaps some localised outbreaks but that's not an overwhelming wave. Thee is going to be small clusters of outbreaks for years to come. The 2-3 week delays are NEVER going to prevent that. "You say you dont think there will be another wave which means you dont know so your just guessing lol,then say there will be small clusters for years to come, so you know more than the scientists? | |||
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"There will be a second wave Mark my words Ps does anyone know of anyone that’s actually died from COVID-19 " I only know of 2 people who have died but know dozens of folk who have had the virus | |||
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"Thx for the update but it's just almost exactly what I said 10 weeks ago. Oor wee savvy Nicola will follow Bojo's every move but will delay doing the same as him by roughly 2 -3 weeks. (TBF i said a week to 10 days ) . This has fuck all to do with how the virus is spreading it's simply to cover her arse and avoid blame if it returns a second wave. She can say , well I waited 2 weeks longer so blame Engerlund for its return . Shes a coward pure and simple. She dosnt give a hoot about businesses or people's lives being impacted not to mention the disadvantages of businesses north of the border by delaying her copy catting. It's all politics pure and simple.
You must not know we are 2 to 3 weeks behind in the spike of the virus,so she is only going with what she is being advised to do
I think if you go back roughly 10 weeks ago nobody knew when the spike would be, The 2nd minister Nicola said she would decide when lockdown restrictions would end in Scotland. I guess I just got lucky 10 weeks ago when I said the 2nd minister Nicola would follow Bojo's every move just a short time later. Shes playing a game, shes always played games, from the campaign to reject Brexit , so she could have another excuse to strengthen her independence movement. Shes what is known in Scotland as a canny wee lassie.
I think you will find the independence movement is much bigger than the SNP, ya canny wee laddie
Not according to the last vote but that's perhaps for a separate thread. "The last referendum was a once in a life time chance to make a change.... well at least that’s what we were lead to believe. Independence will no go away until wee Jimmy Krankie is crowned the imperial leader of Scotland | |||
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" You say you dont think there will be another wave which means you dont know so your just guessing lol,then say there will be small clusters for years to come, so you know more than the scientists?" Small clusters are very different from a second wave. And yes I'm guessing there won't be a second wave just like the experts are pretty much guessin too. Add to that the experts actually have said there will most likely be small clusters of new cases so no I don't think I know more than the scientists I merely agree with them and voice my agreement. | |||
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"Thx for the update but it's just almost exactly what I said 10 weeks ago. Oor wee savvy Nicola will follow Bojo's every move but will delay doing the same as him by roughly 2 -3 weeks. (TBF i said a week to 10 days ) . This has fuck all to do with how the virus is spreading it's simply to cover her arse and avoid blame if it returns a second wave. She can say , well I waited 2 weeks longer so blame Engerlund for its return . Shes a coward pure and simple. She dosnt give a hoot about businesses or people's lives being impacted not to mention the disadvantages of businesses north of the border by delaying her copy catting. It's all politics pure and simple.
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"Sits back, popcorn in hand reading the comments, as an Irishman here these are quite entertaining, people will always give the Scottish leader a hard time, like someone said, she takes us out of lockdown too soon more people die, too late out of lockdown the economy suffers, it’s a no win situation, though I’d personally want to see less death than problems with the economy, we can always recover from an economic problem but losing loved ones is a lot harder to recover from trust me. I think what is more remarkable is that Nicola being a woman has lead with distinction (not saying there’s anything wrong either being a woman but society places more pressure on her to perform) while bojo has gone and caught the virus, failed to maintain social distancing in the process and then almost died, not exactly leading by example is he? He’s also defended an advisor who may a calamitous fuck up of testing his eyes by driving, allowing him to keep his job, while Nicola has let go of her medical advisor for breaching lockdown rules. I think if this was a head to head battle Nicola wins by a mile. Well done Scotland, let’s hope England doesn’t fuck it for the rest of us by causing a second spike. " Great point. | |||
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"Sits back, popcorn in hand reading the comments, as an Irishman here these are quite entertaining, people will always give the Scottish leader a hard time, like someone said, she takes us out of lockdown too soon more people die, too late out of lockdown the economy suffers, it’s a no win situation, though I’d personally want to see less death than problems with the economy, we can always recover from an economic problem but losing loved ones is a lot harder to recover from trust me. I think what is more remarkable is that Nicola being a woman has lead with distinction (not saying there’s anything wrong either being a woman but society places more pressure on her to perform) while bojo has gone and caught the virus, failed to maintain social distancing in the process and then almost died, not exactly leading by example is he? He’s also defended an advisor who may a calamitous fuck up of testing his eyes by driving, allowing him to keep his job, while Nicola has let go of her medical advisor for breaching lockdown rules. I think if this was a head to head battle Nicola wins by a mile. Well done Scotland, let’s hope England doesn’t fuck it for the rest of us by causing a second spike. " Sent a photo of Bournemouth beach today. Packed like sardines. Absolutely crazy. Thank you England. | |||
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"Sits back, popcorn in hand reading the comments, as an Irishman here these are quite entertaining, people will always give the Scottish leader a hard time, like someone said, she takes us out of lockdown too soon more people die, too late out of lockdown the economy suffers, it’s a no win situation, though I’d personally want to see less death than problems with the economy, we can always recover from an economic problem but losing loved ones is a lot harder to recover from trust me. I think what is more remarkable is that Nicola being a woman has lead with distinction (not saying there’s anything wrong either being a woman but society places more pressure on her to perform) while bojo has gone and caught the virus, failed to maintain social distancing in the process and then almost died, not exactly leading by example is he? He’s also defended an advisor who may a calamitous fuck up of testing his eyes by driving, allowing him to keep his job, while Nicola has let go of her medical advisor for breaching lockdown rules. I think if this was a head to head battle Nicola wins by a mile. Well done Scotland, let’s hope England doesn’t fuck it for the rest of us by causing a second spike. Sent a photo of Bournemouth beach today. Packed like sardines. Absolutely crazy. Thank you England. " Yeah, someone posted that on my FB earlier....can you imagine queuing for a Mr Whippy or a piss in that? | |||
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"Sits back, popcorn in hand reading the comments, as an Irishman here these are quite entertaining, people will always give the Scottish leader a hard time, like someone said, she takes us out of lockdown too soon more people die, too late out of lockdown the economy suffers, it’s a no win situation, though I’d personally want to see less death than problems with the economy, we can always recover from an economic problem but losing loved ones is a lot harder to recover from trust me. I think what is more remarkable is that Nicola being a woman has lead with distinction (not saying there’s anything wrong either being a woman but society places more pressure on her to perform) while bojo has gone and caught the virus, failed to maintain social distancing in the process and then almost died, not exactly leading by example is he? He’s also defended an advisor who may a calamitous fuck up of testing his eyes by driving, allowing him to keep his job, while Nicola has let go of her medical advisor for breaching lockdown rules. I think if this was a head to head battle Nicola wins by a mile. Well done Scotland, let’s hope England doesn’t fuck it for the rest of us by causing a second spike. Sent a photo of Bournemouth beach today. Packed like sardines. Absolutely crazy. Thank you England. " Will you thank Scotland for all the crowds on Ayr beach couple of weeks ago and the crowds in kelvinGrove park last week. We are no better Jim. No foreign holidays for the forseable future, our beaches will be no different bud. Who will you blame then. | |||
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"Sits back, popcorn in hand reading the comments, as an Irishman here these are quite entertaining, people will always give the Scottish leader a hard time, like someone said, she takes us out of lockdown too soon more people die, too late out of lockdown the economy suffers, it’s a no win situation, though I’d personally want to see less death than problems with the economy, we can always recover from an economic problem but losing loved ones is a lot harder to recover from trust me. I think what is more remarkable is that Nicola being a woman has lead with distinction (not saying there’s anything wrong either being a woman but society places more pressure on her to perform) while bojo has gone and caught the virus, failed to maintain social distancing in the process and then almost died, not exactly leading by example is he? He’s also defended an advisor who may a calamitous fuck up of testing his eyes by driving, allowing him to keep his job, while Nicola has let go of her medical advisor for breaching lockdown rules. I think if this was a head to head battle Nicola wins by a mile. Well done Scotland, let’s hope England doesn’t fuck it for the rest of us by causing a second spike. Sent a photo of Bournemouth beach today. Packed like sardines. Absolutely crazy. Thank you England. Will you thank Scotland for all the crowds on Ayr beach couple of weeks ago and the crowds in kelvinGrove park last week. We are no better Jim. No foreign holidays for the forseable future, our beaches will be no different bud. Who will you blame then. "Nothing gets past you. Taking the opportunity to have a fun dig at the English. Because I find it satisfying sometimes. FYI 90% of the stuff I post is in good humour. | |||
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"Thx for the update but it's just almost exactly what I said 10 weeks ago. Oor wee savvy Nicola will follow Bojo's every move but will delay doing the same as him by roughly 2 -3 weeks. (TBF i said a week to 10 days ) . This has fuck all to do with how the virus is spreading it's simply to cover her arse and avoid blame if it returns a second wave. She can say , well I waited 2 weeks longer so blame Engerlund for its return . Shes a coward pure and simple. She dosnt give a hoot about businesses or people's lives being impacted not to mention the disadvantages of businesses north of the border by delaying her copy catting. It's all politics pure and simple.
You must not know we are 2 to 3 weeks behind in the spike of the virus,so she is only going with what she is being advised to do
I think if you go back roughly 10 weeks ago nobody knew when the spike would be, The 2nd minister Nicola said she would decide when lockdown restrictions would end in Scotland. I guess I just got lucky 10 weeks ago when I said the 2nd minister Nicola would follow Bojo's every move just a short time later. Shes playing a game, shes always played games, from the campaign to reject Brexit , so she could have another excuse to strengthen her independence movement. Shes what is known in Scotland as a canny wee lassie.
I actually think under the circumstances she's done great. And I'm actually back to work before similar places in England so we aren't behind now. She's lead well and made very difficult discussions. Given no one has ever dealt with a pandemic like this before I think she has held her own and be present at briefings every day unlike boris!! I'd rather Nicola all day long! But hey we're all entitled to our opinion.
I actually agree with you on what you say, I'm just sceptical behind her motivations on following 2-3 weeks behind Bojo. I don't believe she's simply following the experts advice on this. Shes setting herself up in a win win political situation at the expense of the Scottish people. If there is a 2nd wave she can blame bojo for coming out too soon ,win as someone else to take the blame , this sets up another reason for independence, win again. The stats show Scotland is not in a worse position than England where covid is concerned so why the delay relaxing restrictions . That's my point.
It's not IF there is a second wave there will be a second wave but we don't know when, remember Scotland is 2 to 3 weeks behind England with the virus. To say she doesn't care about people is a bit harsh.
Fair enough, I will say that was a bit harsh of me and not quite meant in the way it sounded. I don't think she cares about the peoples views about getting businesses back open, mental health issues have gone through the roof with people seeking professional help because of lockdown , and she , in my opinion plays political games, stalling over lifting restrictions for personal gain. Bare in mind , she screwed up right at the start by not announcing the potential outbreak at the Edinburgh hotel. I think people seem to forget the bad decisions and focus on only the good."Row row row the boat gently down the stream.. No wait, you're back peddling. Yeah..people like to forget negativity...and seek positivity. I find it fascinating whether what political party you favour, you will always show angst at the other party for something you dont agree with. | |||
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"Thx for the update but it's just almost exactly what I said 10 weeks ago. Oor wee savvy Nicola will follow Bojo's every move but will delay doing the same as him by roughly 2 -3 weeks. (TBF i said a week to 10 days ) . This has fuck all to do with how the virus is spreading it's simply to cover her arse and avoid blame if it returns a second wave. She can say , well I waited 2 weeks longer so blame Engerlund for its return . Shes a coward pure and simple. She dosnt give a hoot about businesses or people's lives being impacted not to mention the disadvantages of businesses north of the border by delaying her copy catting. It's all politics pure and simple.
You must not know we are 2 to 3 weeks behind in the spike of the virus,so she is only going with what she is being advised to do
I think if you go back roughly 10 weeks ago nobody knew when the spike would be, The 2nd minister Nicola said she would decide when lockdown restrictions would end in Scotland. I guess I just got lucky 10 weeks ago when I said the 2nd minister Nicola would follow Bojo's every move just a short time later. Shes playing a game, shes always played games, from the campaign to reject Brexit , so she could have another excuse to strengthen her independence movement. Shes what is known in Scotland as a canny wee lassie.
I think you will find the independence movement is much bigger than the SNP, ya canny wee laddie
Not according to the last vote but that's perhaps for a separate thread. "Hahaha that old chestnut! Yawn.... another thread perhaps, but you brought the subject up on this thread!! So only your opinion counts....ok | |||
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"Thx for the update but it's just almost exactly what I said 10 weeks ago. Oor wee savvy Nicola will follow Bojo's every move but will delay doing the same as him by roughly 2 -3 weeks. (TBF i said a week to 10 days ) . This has fuck all to do with how the virus is spreading it's simply to cover her arse and avoid blame if it returns a second wave. She can say , well I waited 2 weeks longer so blame Engerlund for its return . Shes a coward pure and simple. She dosnt give a hoot about businesses or people's lives being impacted not to mention the disadvantages of businesses north of the border by delaying her copy catting. It's all politics pure and simple.
You must not know we are 2 to 3 weeks behind in the spike of the virus,so she is only going with what she is being advised to do
I think if you go back roughly 10 weeks ago nobody knew when the spike would be, The 2nd minister Nicola said she would decide when lockdown restrictions would end in Scotland. I guess I just got lucky 10 weeks ago when I said the 2nd minister Nicola would follow Bojo's every move just a short time later. Shes playing a game, shes always played games, from the campaign to reject Brexit , so she could have another excuse to strengthen her independence movement. Shes what is known in Scotland as a canny wee lassie.
I think you will find the independence movement is much bigger than the SNP, ya canny wee laddie
Not according to the last vote but that's perhaps for a separate thread.
The last referendum was a once in a life time chance to make a change.... well at least that’s what we were lead to believe. Independence will no go away until wee Jimmy Krankie is crowned the imperial leader of Scotland "What's with the name calling?! British nationalists are the only people I hear calling the first minister "wee nippy or wee Jimmy Krankie" Pathetic!!! And are we not allowed to change our minds...we live in a democratic society do we not?!! but what you're saying is we're not allowed to change our minds?! Like I said, the independence movement is much much larger than the SNP. I'm not even a supporter of the SNP I was just stating a fact... | |||
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"Sits back, popcorn in hand reading the comments, as an Irishman here these are quite entertaining, people will always give the Scottish leader a hard time, like someone said, she takes us out of lockdown too soon more people die, too late out of lockdown the economy suffers, it’s a no win situation, though I’d personally want to see less death than problems with the economy, we can always recover from an economic problem but losing loved ones is a lot harder to recover from trust me. I think what is more remarkable is that Nicola being a woman has lead with distinction (not saying there’s anything wrong either being a woman but society places more pressure on her to perform) while bojo has gone and caught the virus, failed to maintain social distancing in the process and then almost died, not exactly leading by example is he? He’s also defended an advisor who may a calamitous fuck up of testing his eyes by driving, allowing him to keep his job, while Nicola has let go of her medical advisor for breaching lockdown rules. I think if this was a head to head battle Nicola wins by a mile. Well done Scotland, let’s hope England doesn’t fuck it for the rest of us by causing a second spike. " | |||
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"Thx for the update but it's just almost exactly what I said 10 weeks ago. Oor wee savvy Nicola will follow Bojo's every move but will delay doing the same as him by roughly 2 -3 weeks. (TBF i said a week to 10 days ) . This has fuck all to do with how the virus is spreading it's simply to cover her arse and avoid blame if it returns a second wave. She can say , well I waited 2 weeks longer so blame Engerlund for its return . Shes a coward pure and simple. She dosnt give a hoot about businesses or people's lives being impacted not to mention the disadvantages of businesses north of the border by delaying her copy catting. It's all politics pure and simple.
You must not know we are 2 to 3 weeks behind in the spike of the virus,so she is only going with what she is being advised to do
I think if you go back roughly 10 weeks ago nobody knew when the spike would be, The 2nd minister Nicola said she would decide when lockdown restrictions would end in Scotland. I guess I just got lucky 10 weeks ago when I said the 2nd minister Nicola would follow Bojo's every move just a short time later. Shes playing a game, shes always played games, from the campaign to reject Brexit , so she could have another excuse to strengthen her independence movement. Shes what is known in Scotland as a canny wee lassie.
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"Thx for the update but it's just almost exactly what I said 10 weeks ago. Oor wee savvy Nicola will follow Bojo's every move but will delay doing the same as him by roughly 2 -3 weeks. (TBF i said a week to 10 days ) . This has fuck all to do with how the virus is spreading it's simply to cover her arse and avoid blame if it returns a second wave. She can say , well I waited 2 weeks longer so blame Engerlund for its return . Shes a coward pure and simple. She dosnt give a hoot about businesses or people's lives being impacted not to mention the disadvantages of businesses north of the border by delaying her copy catting. It's all politics pure and simple.
You must not know we are 2 to 3 weeks behind in the spike of the virus,so she is only going with what she is being advised to do
I think if you go back roughly 10 weeks ago nobody knew when the spike would be, The 2nd minister Nicola said she would decide when lockdown restrictions would end in Scotland. I guess I just got lucky 10 weeks ago when I said the 2nd minister Nicola would follow Bojo's every move just a short time later. Shes playing a game, shes always played games, from the campaign to reject Brexit , so she could have another excuse to strengthen her independence movement. Shes what is known in Scotland as a canny wee lassie.
I think you will find the independence movement is much bigger than the SNP, ya canny wee laddie
Not according to the last vote but that's perhaps for a separate thread.
The last referendum was a once in a life time chance to make a change.... well at least that’s what we were lead to believe. Independence will no go away until wee Jimmy Krankie is crowned the imperial leader of Scotland
What's with the name calling?! British nationalists are the only people I hear calling the first minister "wee nippy or wee Jimmy Krankie" Pathetic!!! And are we not allowed to change our minds...we live in a democratic society do we not?!! but what you're saying is we're not allowed to change our minds?! Like I said, the independence movement is much much larger than the SNP. I'm not even a supporter of the SNP I was just stating a fact..."I am the opposite, an SNP supporter and also a British nationalist but not a fan of Jimmy Krankie. I think she has used this pandemic to drum up support for a new referendum. We will see how long it takes before independence rears it’s ugly head again and we can all hear how better off we will be because we have an oil industry.....wait a minute.... we export whiskey.... wait a minute.....ship building....fuck it shortbread and they little bag piper dolls will support the economy. As I have said we will keep on having referendums until we go independent | |||
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"Thx for the update but it's just almost exactly what I said 10 weeks ago. Oor wee savvy Nicola will follow Bojo's every move but will delay doing the same as him by roughly 2 -3 weeks. (TBF i said a week to 10 days ) . This has fuck all to do with how the virus is spreading it's simply to cover her arse and avoid blame if it returns a second wave. She can say , well I waited 2 weeks longer so blame Engerlund for its return . Shes a coward pure and simple. She dosnt give a hoot about businesses or people's lives being impacted not to mention the disadvantages of businesses north of the border by delaying her copy catting. It's all politics pure and simple.
You must not know we are 2 to 3 weeks behind in the spike of the virus,so she is only going with what she is being advised to do
I think if you go back roughly 10 weeks ago nobody knew when the spike would be, The 2nd minister Nicola said she would decide when lockdown restrictions would end in Scotland. I guess I just got lucky 10 weeks ago when I said the 2nd minister Nicola would follow Bojo's every move just a short time later. Shes playing a game, shes always played games, from the campaign to reject Brexit , so she could have another excuse to strengthen her independence movement. Shes what is known in Scotland as a canny wee lassie.
I think you will find the independence movement is much bigger than the SNP, ya canny wee laddie
Not according to the last vote but that's perhaps for a separate thread.
The last referendum was a once in a life time chance to make a change.... well at least that’s what we were lead to believe. Independence will no go away until wee Jimmy Krankie is crowned the imperial leader of Scotland
What's with the name calling?! British nationalists are the only people I hear calling the first minister "wee nippy or wee Jimmy Krankie" Pathetic!!! And are we not allowed to change our minds...we live in a democratic society do we not?!! but what you're saying is we're not allowed to change our minds?! Like I said, the independence movement is much much larger than the SNP. I'm not even a supporter of the SNP I was just stating a fact...
I am the opposite, an SNP supporter and also a British nationalist but not a fan of Jimmy Krankie. I think she has used this pandemic to drum up support for a new referendum. We will see how long it takes before independence rears it’s ugly head again and we can all hear how better off we will be because we have an oil industry.....wait a minute.... we export whiskey.... wait a minute.....ship building....fuck it shortbread and they little bag piper dolls will support the economy. As I have said we will keep on having referendums until we go independent "This is the sort of negativity I find disappointing. To reduce our economic hopes to whisky (no e), oil, and ship building - two of which industries are on their arses - then invoke shortbread and little dolls is really talking Scotland down. I'm not saying Scotland should or shouldn't go independent, but there's no reason we couldn't be a successful small economy if we did. If Ireland, New Zealand, Denmark etc. manage, then why the hell not Scotland? We've got resources, we've got produce, we've got intelligent and creative people, and desirable places to visit and live... sick of the country being written off by its own people. | |||
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"Thx for the update but it's just almost exactly what I said 10 weeks ago. Oor wee savvy Nicola will follow Bojo's every move but will delay doing the same as him by roughly 2 -3 weeks. (TBF i said a week to 10 days ) . This has fuck all to do with how the virus is spreading it's simply to cover her arse and avoid blame if it returns a second wave. She can say , well I waited 2 weeks longer so blame Engerlund for its return . Shes a coward pure and simple. She dosnt give a hoot about businesses or people's lives being impacted not to mention the disadvantages of businesses north of the border by delaying her copy catting. It's all politics pure and simple.
You must not know we are 2 to 3 weeks behind in the spike of the virus,so she is only going with what she is being advised to do
I think if you go back roughly 10 weeks ago nobody knew when the spike would be, The 2nd minister Nicola said she would decide when lockdown restrictions would end in Scotland. I guess I just got lucky 10 weeks ago when I said the 2nd minister Nicola would follow Bojo's every move just a short time later. Shes playing a game, shes always played games, from the campaign to reject Brexit , so she could have another excuse to strengthen her independence movement. Shes what is known in Scotland as a canny wee lassie.
I think you will find the independence movement is much bigger than the SNP, ya canny wee laddie
Not according to the last vote but that's perhaps for a separate thread.
The last referendum was a once in a life time chance to make a change.... well at least that’s what we were lead to believe. Independence will no go away until wee Jimmy Krankie is crowned the imperial leader of Scotland
What's with the name calling?! British nationalists are the only people I hear calling the first minister "wee nippy or wee Jimmy Krankie" Pathetic!!! And are we not allowed to change our minds...we live in a democratic society do we not?!! but what you're saying is we're not allowed to change our minds?! Like I said, the independence movement is much much larger than the SNP. I'm not even a supporter of the SNP I was just stating a fact...
I am the opposite, an SNP supporter and also a British nationalist but not a fan of Jimmy Krankie. I think she has used this pandemic to drum up support for a new referendum. We will see how long it takes before independence rears it’s ugly head again and we can all hear how better off we will be because we have an oil industry.....wait a minute.... we export whiskey.... wait a minute.....ship building....fuck it shortbread and they little bag piper dolls will support the economy. As I have said we will keep on having referendums until we go independent
This is the sort of negativity I find disappointing. To reduce our economic hopes to whisky (no e), oil, and ship building - two of which industries are on their arses - then invoke shortbread and little dolls is really talking Scotland down.
I'm not saying Scotland should or shouldn't go independent, but there's no reason we couldn't be a successful small economy if we did. If Ireland, New Zealand, Denmark etc. manage, then why the hell not Scotland? We've got resources, we've got produce, we've got intelligent and creative people, and desirable places to visit and live... sick of the country being written off by its own people."Well said sir | |||
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"Thx for the update but it's just almost exactly what I said 10 weeks ago. Oor wee savvy Nicola will follow Bojo's every move but will delay doing the same as him by roughly 2 -3 weeks. (TBF i said a week to 10 days ) . This has fuck all to do with how the virus is spreading it's simply to cover her arse and avoid blame if it returns a second wave. She can say , well I waited 2 weeks longer so blame Engerlund for its return . Shes a coward pure and simple. She dosnt give a hoot about businesses or people's lives being impacted not to mention the disadvantages of businesses north of the border by delaying her copy catting. It's all politics pure and simple.
You must not know we are 2 to 3 weeks behind in the spike of the virus,so she is only going with what she is being advised to do
I think if you go back roughly 10 weeks ago nobody knew when the spike would be, The 2nd minister Nicola said she would decide when lockdown restrictions would end in Scotland. I guess I just got lucky 10 weeks ago when I said the 2nd minister Nicola would follow Bojo's every move just a short time later. Shes playing a game, shes always played games, from the campaign to reject Brexit , so she could have another excuse to strengthen her independence movement. Shes what is known in Scotland as a canny wee lassie.
I think you will find the independence movement is much bigger than the SNP, ya canny wee laddie
Not according to the last vote but that's perhaps for a separate thread.
The last referendum was a once in a life time chance to make a change.... well at least that’s what we were lead to believe. Independence will no go away until wee Jimmy Krankie is crowned the imperial leader of Scotland
What's with the name calling?! British nationalists are the only people I hear calling the first minister "wee nippy or wee Jimmy Krankie" Pathetic!!! And are we not allowed to change our minds...we live in a democratic society do we not?!! but what you're saying is we're not allowed to change our minds?! Like I said, the independence movement is much much larger than the SNP. I'm not even a supporter of the SNP I was just stating a fact...
I am the opposite, an SNP supporter and also a British nationalist but not a fan of Jimmy Krankie. I think she has used this pandemic to drum up support for a new referendum. We will see how long it takes before independence rears it’s ugly head again and we can all hear how better off we will be because we have an oil industry.....wait a minute.... we export whiskey.... wait a minute.....ship building....fuck it shortbread and they little bag piper dolls will support the economy. As I have said we will keep on having referendums until we go independent "Hmmm British nationalist supporting SNP when SNP don't hide the fact that they are the independence party?! Calling the first minister names is just low and shows low levels of intelligence, as is talking down Scotland!!! Incidentally, you are right...independence is coming, whether you like it or not! With or without a section 30 order. Oh, and the SNP are now on the forth/fifth mandate to hold a referendum or have you not been paying attention?! Also whisky (Scottish) whiskey (Irish) ?? | |||
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"Thx for the update but it's just almost exactly what I said 10 weeks ago. Oor wee savvy Nicola will follow Bojo's every move but will delay doing the same as him by roughly 2 -3 weeks. (TBF i said a week to 10 days ) . This has fuck all to do with how the virus is spreading it's simply to cover her arse and avoid blame if it returns a second wave. She can say , well I waited 2 weeks longer so blame Engerlund for its return . Shes a coward pure and simple. She dosnt give a hoot about businesses or people's lives being impacted not to mention the disadvantages of businesses north of the border by delaying her copy catting. It's all politics pure and simple.
You must not know we are 2 to 3 weeks behind in the spike of the virus,so she is only going with what she is being advised to do
I think if you go back roughly 10 weeks ago nobody knew when the spike would be, The 2nd minister Nicola said she would decide when lockdown restrictions would end in Scotland. I guess I just got lucky 10 weeks ago when I said the 2nd minister Nicola would follow Bojo's every move just a short time later. Shes playing a game, shes always played games, from the campaign to reject Brexit , so she could have another excuse to strengthen her independence movement. Shes what is known in Scotland as a canny wee lassie.
I think you will find the independence movement is much bigger than the SNP, ya canny wee laddie
Not according to the last vote but that's perhaps for a separate thread.
The last referendum was a once in a life time chance to make a change.... well at least that’s what we were lead to believe. Independence will no go away until wee Jimmy Krankie is crowned the imperial leader of Scotland
What's with the name calling?! British nationalists are the only people I hear calling the first minister "wee nippy or wee Jimmy Krankie" Pathetic!!! And are we not allowed to change our minds...we live in a democratic society do we not?!! but what you're saying is we're not allowed to change our minds?! Like I said, the independence movement is much much larger than the SNP. I'm not even a supporter of the SNP I was just stating a fact...
I am the opposite, an SNP supporter and also a British nationalist but not a fan of Jimmy Krankie. I think she has used this pandemic to drum up support for a new referendum. We will see how long it takes before independence rears it’s ugly head again and we can all hear how better off we will be because we have an oil industry.....wait a minute.... we export whiskey.... wait a minute.....ship building....fuck it shortbread and they little bag piper dolls will support the economy. As I have said we will keep on having referendums until we go independent
Hmmm British nationalist supporting SNP when SNP don't hide the fact that they are the independence party?! Calling the first minister names is just low and shows low levels of intelligence, as is talking down Scotland!!! Incidentally, you are right...independence is coming, whether you like it or not! With or without a section 30 order. Oh, and the SNP are now on the forth/fifth mandate to hold a referendum or have you not been paying attention?! Also whisky (Scottish) whiskey (Irish) ??"I admire your enthusiasm. | |||
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"Thx for the update but it's just almost exactly what I said 10 weeks ago. Oor wee savvy Nicola will follow Bojo's every move but will delay doing the same as him by roughly 2 -3 weeks. (TBF i said a week to 10 days ) . This has fuck all to do with how the virus is spreading it's simply to cover her arse and avoid blame if it returns a second wave. She can say , well I waited 2 weeks longer so blame Engerlund for its return . Shes a coward pure and simple. She dosnt give a hoot about businesses or people's lives being impacted not to mention the disadvantages of businesses north of the border by delaying her copy catting. It's all politics pure and simple.
You must not know we are 2 to 3 weeks behind in the spike of the virus,so she is only going with what she is being advised to do
I think if you go back roughly 10 weeks ago nobody knew when the spike would be, The 2nd minister Nicola said she would decide when lockdown restrictions would end in Scotland. I guess I just got lucky 10 weeks ago when I said the 2nd minister Nicola would follow Bojo's every move just a short time later. Shes playing a game, shes always played games, from the campaign to reject Brexit , so she could have another excuse to strengthen her independence movement. Shes what is known in Scotland as a canny wee lassie.
I think you will find the independence movement is much bigger than the SNP, ya canny wee laddie
Not according to the last vote but that's perhaps for a separate thread.
The last referendum was a once in a life time chance to make a change.... well at least that’s what we were lead to believe. Independence will no go away until wee Jimmy Krankie is crowned the imperial leader of Scotland
What's with the name calling?! British nationalists are the only people I hear calling the first minister "wee nippy or wee Jimmy Krankie" Pathetic!!! And are we not allowed to change our minds...we live in a democratic society do we not?!! but what you're saying is we're not allowed to change our minds?! Like I said, the independence movement is much much larger than the SNP. I'm not even a supporter of the SNP I was just stating a fact...
Incidentally, you are right...independence is coming, whether you like it or not! With or without a section 30 order. Oh, and the SNP are now on the forth/fifth mandate to hold a referendum or have you not been paying attention?! Also whisky (Scottish) whiskey (Irish) ??"Whether we like it or not ??? Strange thing to say since there was a vote, we didn't like it , and contrary to this statement independence never came. | |||
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"Thx for the update but it's just almost exactly what I said 10 weeks ago. Oor wee savvy Nicola will follow Bojo's every move but will delay doing the same as him by roughly 2 -3 weeks. (TBF i said a week to 10 days ) . This has fuck all to do with how the virus is spreading it's simply to cover her arse and avoid blame if it returns a second wave. She can say , well I waited 2 weeks longer so blame Engerlund for its return . Shes a coward pure and simple. She dosnt give a hoot about businesses or people's lives being impacted not to mention the disadvantages of businesses north of the border by delaying her copy catting. It's all politics pure and simple.
You must not know we are 2 to 3 weeks behind in the spike of the virus,so she is only going with what she is being advised to do
I think if you go back roughly 10 weeks ago nobody knew when the spike would be, The 2nd minister Nicola said she would decide when lockdown restrictions would end in Scotland. I guess I just got lucky 10 weeks ago when I said the 2nd minister Nicola would follow Bojo's every move just a short time later. Shes playing a game, shes always played games, from the campaign to reject Brexit , so she could have another excuse to strengthen her independence movement. Shes what is known in Scotland as a canny wee lassie.
I think you will find the independence movement is much bigger than the SNP, ya canny wee laddie
Not according to the last vote but that's perhaps for a separate thread.
The last referendum was a once in a life time chance to make a change.... well at least that’s what we were lead to believe. Independence will no go away until wee Jimmy Krankie is crowned the imperial leader of Scotland
What's with the name calling?! British nationalists are the only people I hear calling the first minister "wee nippy or wee Jimmy Krankie" Pathetic!!! And are we not allowed to change our minds...we live in a democratic society do we not?!! but what you're saying is we're not allowed to change our minds?! Like I said, the independence movement is much much larger than the SNP. I'm not even a supporter of the SNP I was just stating a fact...
I am the opposite, an SNP supporter and also a British nationalist but not a fan of Jimmy Krankie. I think she has used this pandemic to drum up support for a new referendum. We will see how long it takes before independence rears it’s ugly head again and we can all hear how better off we will be because we have an oil industry.....wait a minute.... we export whiskey.... wait a minute.....ship building....fuck it shortbread and they little bag piper dolls will support the economy. As I have said we will keep on having referendums until we go independent
Hmmm British nationalist supporting SNP when SNP don't hide the fact that they are the independence party?! Calling the first minister names is just low and shows low levels of intelligence, as is talking down Scotland!!! Incidentally, you are right...independence is coming, whether you like it or not! With or without a section 30 order. Oh, and the SNP are now on the forth/fifth mandate to hold a referendum or have you not been paying attention?! Also whisky (Scottish) whiskey (Irish) ??"I'm also puzzled by a few things the pro indy movement involves, If you want to be independent why stay in the EU , makes no sense Why was it billed as a once in a generation vote then almost immediately sought again Why were there never answers on what currency we would use Why was there never information about how it could cope financially or show some kind of financial outlook How would we defend ourselves as an independent country All the SNP kept saying was , ach it will all be OK Really ???? Last point I would say, no chance on this planet could the SNP have covered this pandemic by use of the furlough scheme as it is just now. If you believe it could have then your not only an idealist your a fantasist. | |||
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"Thx for the update but it's just almost exactly what I said 10 weeks ago. Oor wee savvy Nicola will follow Bojo's every move but will delay doing the same as him by roughly 2 -3 weeks. (TBF i said a week to 10 days ) . This has fuck all to do with how the virus is spreading it's simply to cover her arse and avoid blame if it returns a second wave. She can say , well I waited 2 weeks longer so blame Engerlund for its return . Shes a coward pure and simple. She dosnt give a hoot about businesses or people's lives being impacted not to mention the disadvantages of businesses north of the border by delaying her copy catting. It's all politics pure and simple.
You must not know we are 2 to 3 weeks behind in the spike of the virus,so she is only going with what she is being advised to do
I think if you go back roughly 10 weeks ago nobody knew when the spike would be, The 2nd minister Nicola said she would decide when lockdown restrictions would end in Scotland. I guess I just got lucky 10 weeks ago when I said the 2nd minister Nicola would follow Bojo's every move just a short time later. Shes playing a game, shes always played games, from the campaign to reject Brexit , so she could have another excuse to strengthen her independence movement. Shes what is known in Scotland as a canny wee lassie.
I think you will find the independence movement is much bigger than the SNP, ya canny wee laddie
Not according to the last vote but that's perhaps for a separate thread.
The last referendum was a once in a life time chance to make a change.... well at least that’s what we were lead to believe. Independence will no go away until wee Jimmy Krankie is crowned the imperial leader of Scotland
What's with the name calling?! British nationalists are the only people I hear calling the first minister "wee nippy or wee Jimmy Krankie" Pathetic!!! And are we not allowed to change our minds...we live in a democratic society do we not?!! but what you're saying is we're not allowed to change our minds?! Like I said, the independence movement is much much larger than the SNP. I'm not even a supporter of the SNP I was just stating a fact...
I am the opposite, an SNP supporter and also a British nationalist but not a fan of Jimmy Krankie. I think she has used this pandemic to drum up support for a new referendum. We will see how long it takes before independence rears it’s ugly head again and we can all hear how better off we will be because we have an oil industry.....wait a minute.... we export whiskey.... wait a minute.....ship building....fuck it shortbread and they little bag piper dolls will support the economy. As I have said we will keep on having referendums until we go independent
Hmmm British nationalist supporting SNP when SNP don't hide the fact that they are the independence party?! Calling the first minister names is just low and shows low levels of intelligence, as is talking down Scotland!!! Incidentally, you are right...independence is coming, whether you like it or not! With or without a section 30 order. Oh, and the SNP are now on the forth/fifth mandate to hold a referendum or have you not been paying attention?! Also whisky (Scottish) whiskey (Irish) ??
I'm also puzzled by a few things the pro indy movement involves,
If you want to be independent why stay in the EU , makes no sense
Why was it billed as a once in a generation vote then almost immediately sought again
Why were there never answers on what currency we would use
Why was there never information about how it could cope financially or show some kind of financial outlook
How would we defend ourselves as an independent country
All the SNP kept saying was , ach it will all be OK
Really ????
Last point I would say, no chance on this planet could the SNP have covered this pandemic by use of the furlough scheme as it is just now. If you believe it could have then your not only an idealist your a fantasist. "1. The EU is a political and economic alliance of independent nations. No conflict there. 2. The referendum had the open caveat that should some major event happen regarding the direction of the UK, then another one could be called. Brexit qualifies. 3. The SNP clearly stated an independent Scotland would use the pound. 4. There was plenty of information on the economics of independence of you had the motivation to look for it, or the wit to understand it. | |||
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"Thx for the update but it's just almost exactly what I said 10 weeks ago. Oor wee savvy Nicola will follow Bojo's every move but will delay doing the same as him by roughly 2 -3 weeks. (TBF i said a week to 10 days ) . This has fuck all to do with how the virus is spreading it's simply to cover her arse and avoid blame if it returns a second wave. She can say , well I waited 2 weeks longer so blame Engerlund for its return . Shes a coward pure and simple. She dosnt give a hoot about businesses or people's lives being impacted not to mention the disadvantages of businesses north of the border by delaying her copy catting. It's all politics pure and simple. "Sadly too many sheeple in Scotland think it’s a case of Scotland versus England and won’t hold her to account. The SNP have literally gotten away with murder It’s the old adage “look how bad it is in England” | |||
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"Thx for the update but it's just almost exactly what I said 10 weeks ago. Oor wee savvy Nicola will follow Bojo's every move but will delay doing the same as him by roughly 2 -3 weeks. (TBF i said a week to 10 days ) . This has fuck all to do with how the virus is spreading it's simply to cover her arse and avoid blame if it returns a second wave. She can say , well I waited 2 weeks longer so blame Engerlund for its return . Shes a coward pure and simple. She dosnt give a hoot about businesses or people's lives being impacted not to mention the disadvantages of businesses north of the border by delaying her copy catting. It's all politics pure and simple.
Sadly too many sheeple in Scotland think it’s a case of Scotland versus England and won’t hold her to account. The SNP have literally gotten away with murder
It’s the old adage “look how bad it is in England”"Haha! Referring to people as sheeple... always a first class way to have your point taken seriously! | |||
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"So when do you estimate another referendum to take take place?" We've got Scottish parliamentary elections next year. A referendum will be front and centre. Should the SNP sweep to power again (and with Boris down south there's a fair chance it'll happen) then we'll probably see a referendum in 2022/3. | |||
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"So when do you estimate another referendum to take take place? We've got Scottish parliamentary elections next year. A referendum will be front and centre. Should the SNP sweep to power again (and with Boris down south there's a fair chance it'll happen) then we'll probably see a referendum in 2022/3." That soon. | |||
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"So when do you estimate another referendum to take take place? We've got Scottish parliamentary elections next year. A referendum will be front and centre. Should the SNP sweep to power again (and with Boris down south there's a fair chance it'll happen) then we'll probably see a referendum in 2022/3. That soon." If things fall into place for the SNP then I don't think they'll want to hang about. We shall see though, there are a lot of "ifs" involved in the chain of events, and with the way the world is now who knows what the next massive disruption will hold. | |||
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"Thx for the update but it's just almost exactly what I said 10 weeks ago. Oor wee savvy Nicola will follow Bojo's every move but will delay doing the same as him by roughly 2 -3 weeks. (TBF i said a week to 10 days ) . This has fuck all to do with how the virus is spreading it's simply to cover her arse and avoid blame if it returns a second wave. She can say , well I waited 2 weeks longer so blame Engerlund for its return . Shes a coward pure and simple. She dosnt give a hoot about businesses or people's lives being impacted not to mention the disadvantages of businesses north of the border by delaying her copy catting. It's all politics pure and simple.
You must not know we are 2 to 3 weeks behind in the spike of the virus,so she is only going with what she is being advised to do
I think if you go back roughly 10 weeks ago nobody knew when the spike would be, The 2nd minister Nicola said she would decide when lockdown restrictions would end in Scotland. I guess I just got lucky 10 weeks ago when I said the 2nd minister Nicola would follow Bojo's every move just a short time later. Shes playing a game, shes always played games, from the campaign to reject Brexit , so she could have another excuse to strengthen her independence movement. Shes what is known in Scotland as a canny wee lassie.
I think you will find the independence movement is much bigger than the SNP, ya canny wee laddie
Not according to the last vote but that's perhaps for a separate thread.
The last referendum was a once in a life time chance to make a change.... well at least that’s what we were lead to believe. Independence will no go away until wee Jimmy Krankie is crowned the imperial leader of Scotland
What's with the name calling?! British nationalists are the only people I hear calling the first minister "wee nippy or wee Jimmy Krankie" Pathetic!!! And are we not allowed to change our minds...we live in a democratic society do we not?!! but what you're saying is we're not allowed to change our minds?! Like I said, the independence movement is much much larger than the SNP. I'm not even a supporter of the SNP I was just stating a fact...
I am the opposite, an SNP supporter and also a British nationalist but not a fan of Jimmy Krankie. I think she has used this pandemic to drum up support for a new referendum. We will see how long it takes before independence rears it’s ugly head again and we can all hear how better off we will be because we have an oil industry.....wait a minute.... we export whiskey.... wait a minute.....ship building....fuck it shortbread and they little bag piper dolls will support the economy. As I have said we will keep on having referendums until we go independent
Hmmm British nationalist supporting SNP when SNP don't hide the fact that they are the independence party?! Calling the first minister names is just low and shows low levels of intelligence, as is talking down Scotland!!! Incidentally, you are right...independence is coming, whether you like it or not! With or without a section 30 order. Oh, and the SNP are now on the forth/fifth mandate to hold a referendum or have you not been paying attention?! Also whisky (Scottish) whiskey (Irish) ??
I'm also puzzled by a few things the pro indy movement involves,
If you want to be independent why stay in the EU , makes no sense
Why was it billed as a once in a generation vote then almost immediately sought again
Why were there never answers on what currency we would use
Why was there never information about how it could cope financially or show some kind of financial outlook
How would we defend ourselves as an independent country
All the SNP kept saying was , ach it will all be OK
Really ????
Last point I would say, no chance on this planet could the SNP have covered this pandemic by use of the furlough scheme as it is just now. If you believe it could have then your not only an idealist your a fantasist.
1. The EU is a political and economic alliance of independent nations. No conflict there.
2. The referendum had the open caveat that should some major event happen regarding the direction of the UK, then another one could be called. Brexit qualifies.
3. The SNP clearly stated an independent Scotland would use the pound.
4. There was plenty of information on the economics of independence of you had the motivation to look for it, or the wit to understand it. "1 how can you be independent if Brussels can enforce rules and quotas on you 2 The Brexit campaign in Scotland was carefully swayed by Nicola's comment to propogate a major event, ie , she knew the majority of the UK wanted out of the EU, So she influenced the Scottish people by steering SNP supporters that voting to stay in Europe would set the table for another indy vote because it was poor Scotland being forced out of Europe against its will. Remember Brexit in Scotland was 52% remain 48% leave. Not what I would call a major event. Given that the SNP hold a vast amount of voters I think if it weren't for the carrot of independence, Scotland would also have voted for leaving Europe had it not been politisised for more independence campaigning. 3 it stated the pound but that never meant it was agreed it could use the pound, No plan B was in place 4 The economics white paper you speak of was a work of fiction, full of we will do this and we will do that, it missed a crucial piece of information, how it would all be paid for. So yes I read it , but I read it with an open mind and not a blinkered mind set. Again on the white paper, if it was so amazing why has it been dumped and is being totally reworked by the 2nd minister Nicola. ? | |||
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" there are a lot of "ifs" involved in the chain of events, and with the way the world is now who knows what the next massive disruption will hold. " Surely world events won't change the nature of independence, either we can cope with anything and be INDEPENDENT or we can't ?? | |||
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"Thx for the update but it's just almost exactly what I said 10 weeks ago. Oor wee savvy Nicola will follow Bojo's every move but will delay doing the same as him by roughly 2 -3 weeks. (TBF i said a week to 10 days ) . This has fuck all to do with how the virus is spreading it's simply to cover her arse and avoid blame if it returns a second wave. She can say , well I waited 2 weeks longer so blame Engerlund for its return . Shes a coward pure and simple. She dosnt give a hoot about businesses or people's lives being impacted not to mention the disadvantages of businesses north of the border by delaying her copy catting. It's all politics pure and simple.
You must not know we are 2 to 3 weeks behind in the spike of the virus,so she is only going with what she is being advised to do
I think if you go back roughly 10 weeks ago nobody knew when the spike would be, The 2nd minister Nicola said she would decide when lockdown restrictions would end in Scotland. I guess I just got lucky 10 weeks ago when I said the 2nd minister Nicola would follow Bojo's every move just a short time later. Shes playing a game, shes always played games, from the campaign to reject Brexit , so she could have another excuse to strengthen her independence movement. Shes what is known in Scotland as a canny wee lassie.
I think you will find the independence movement is much bigger than the SNP, ya canny wee laddie
Not according to the last vote but that's perhaps for a separate thread.
The last referendum was a once in a life time chance to make a change.... well at least that’s what we were lead to believe. Independence will no go away until wee Jimmy Krankie is crowned the imperial leader of Scotland
What's with the name calling?! British nationalists are the only people I hear calling the first minister "wee nippy or wee Jimmy Krankie" Pathetic!!! And are we not allowed to change our minds...we live in a democratic society do we not?!! but what you're saying is we're not allowed to change our minds?! Like I said, the independence movement is much much larger than the SNP. I'm not even a supporter of the SNP I was just stating a fact...
I am the opposite, an SNP supporter and also a British nationalist but not a fan of Jimmy Krankie. I think she has used this pandemic to drum up support for a new referendum. We will see how long it takes before independence rears it’s ugly head again and we can all hear how better off we will be because we have an oil industry.....wait a minute.... we export whiskey.... wait a minute.....ship building....fuck it shortbread and they little bag piper dolls will support the economy. As I have said we will keep on having referendums until we go independent
Hmmm British nationalist supporting SNP when SNP don't hide the fact that they are the independence party?! Calling the first minister names is just low and shows low levels of intelligence, as is talking down Scotland!!! Incidentally, you are right...independence is coming, whether you like it or not! With or without a section 30 order. Oh, and the SNP are now on the forth/fifth mandate to hold a referendum or have you not been paying attention?! Also whisky (Scottish) whiskey (Irish) ??
I'm also puzzled by a few things the pro indy movement involves,
If you want to be independent why stay in the EU , makes no sense
Why was it billed as a once in a generation vote then almost immediately sought again
Why were there never answers on what currency we would use
Why was there never information about how it could cope financially or show some kind of financial outlook
How would we defend ourselves as an independent country
All the SNP kept saying was , ach it will all be OK
Really ????
Last point I would say, no chance on this planet could the SNP have covered this pandemic by use of the furlough scheme as it is just now. If you believe it could have then your not only an idealist your a fantasist.
1. The EU is a political and economic alliance of independent nations. No conflict there.
2. The referendum had the open caveat that should some major event happen regarding the direction of the UK, then another one could be called. Brexit qualifies.
3. The SNP clearly stated an independent Scotland would use the pound.
4. There was plenty of information on the economics of independence of you had the motivation to look for it, or the wit to understand it.
1 how can you be independent if Brussels can enforce rules and quotas on you
2 The Brexit campaign in Scotland was carefully swayed by Nicola's comment to propogate a major event, ie , she knew the majority of the UK wanted out of the EU, So she influenced the Scottish people by steering SNP supporters that voting to stay in Europe would set the table for another indy vote because it was poor Scotland being forced out of Europe against its will. Remember Brexit in Scotland was 52% remain 48% leave. Not what I would call a major event. Given that the SNP hold a vast amount of voters I think if it weren't for the carrot of independence, Scotland would also have voted for leaving Europe had it not been politisised for more independence campaigning.
3 it stated the pound but that never meant it was agreed it could use the pound, No plan B was in place
4 The economics white paper you speak of was a work of fiction, full of we will do this and we will do that, it missed a crucial piece of information, how it would all be paid for. So yes I read it , but I read it with an open mind and not a blinkered mind set.
Again on the white paper, if it was so amazing why has it been dumped and is being totally reworked by the 2nd minister Nicola. ?"Everything you've written is opinion, not fact. | |||
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"Thx for the update but it's just almost exactly what I said 10 weeks ago. Oor wee savvy Nicola will follow Bojo's every move but will delay doing the same as him by roughly 2 -3 weeks. (TBF i said a week to 10 days ) . This has fuck all to do with how the virus is spreading it's simply to cover her arse and avoid blame if it returns a second wave. She can say , well I waited 2 weeks longer so blame Engerlund for its return . Shes a coward pure and simple. She dosnt give a hoot about businesses or people's lives being impacted not to mention the disadvantages of businesses north of the border by delaying her copy catting. It's all politics pure and simple.
You must not know we are 2 to 3 weeks behind in the spike of the virus,so she is only going with what she is being advised to do
I think if you go back roughly 10 weeks ago nobody knew when the spike would be, The 2nd minister Nicola said she would decide when lockdown restrictions would end in Scotland. I guess I just got lucky 10 weeks ago when I said the 2nd minister Nicola would follow Bojo's every move just a short time later. Shes playing a game, shes always played games, from the campaign to reject Brexit , so she could have another excuse to strengthen her independence movement. Shes what is known in Scotland as a canny wee lassie.
I think you will find the independence movement is much bigger than the SNP, ya canny wee laddie
Not according to the last vote but that's perhaps for a separate thread.
The last referendum was a once in a life time chance to make a change.... well at least that’s what we were lead to believe. Independence will no go away until wee Jimmy Krankie is crowned the imperial leader of Scotland
What's with the name calling?! British nationalists are the only people I hear calling the first minister "wee nippy or wee Jimmy Krankie" Pathetic!!! And are we not allowed to change our minds...we live in a democratic society do we not?!! but what you're saying is we're not allowed to change our minds?! Like I said, the independence movement is much much larger than the SNP. I'm not even a supporter of the SNP I was just stating a fact...
I am the opposite, an SNP supporter and also a British nationalist but not a fan of Jimmy Krankie. I think she has used this pandemic to drum up support for a new referendum. We will see how long it takes before independence rears it’s ugly head again and we can all hear how better off we will be because we have an oil industry.....wait a minute.... we export whiskey.... wait a minute.....ship building....fuck it shortbread and they little bag piper dolls will support the economy. As I have said we will keep on having referendums until we go independent
Hmmm British nationalist supporting SNP when SNP don't hide the fact that they are the independence party?! Calling the first minister names is just low and shows low levels of intelligence, as is talking down Scotland!!! Incidentally, you are right...independence is coming, whether you like it or not! With or without a section 30 order. Oh, and the SNP are now on the forth/fifth mandate to hold a referendum or have you not been paying attention?! Also whisky (Scottish) whiskey (Irish) ??
I'm also puzzled by a few things the pro indy movement involves,
If you want to be independent why stay in the EU , makes no sense
Why was it billed as a once in a generation vote then almost immediately sought again
Why were there never answers on what currency we would use
Why was there never information about how it could cope financially or show some kind of financial outlook
How would we defend ourselves as an independent country
All the SNP kept saying was , ach it will all be OK
Really ????
Last point I would say, no chance on this planet could the SNP have covered this pandemic by use of the furlough scheme as it is just now. If you believe it could have then your not only an idealist your a fantasist.
1. The EU is a political and economic alliance of independent nations. No conflict there.
2. The referendum had the open caveat that should some major event happen regarding the direction of the UK, then another one could be called. Brexit qualifies.
3. The SNP clearly stated an independent Scotland would use the pound.
4. There was plenty of information on the economics of independence of you had the motivation to look for it, or the wit to understand it.
1 how can you be independent if Brussels can enforce rules and quotas on you
2 The Brexit campaign in Scotland was carefully swayed by Nicola's comment to propogate a major event, ie , she knew the majority of the UK wanted out of the EU, So she influenced the Scottish people by steering SNP supporters that voting to stay in Europe would set the table for another indy vote because it was poor Scotland being forced out of Europe against its will. Remember Brexit in Scotland was 52% remain 48% leave. Not what I would call a major event. Given that the SNP hold a vast amount of voters I think if it weren't for the carrot of independence, Scotland would also have voted for leaving Europe had it not been politisised for more independence campaigning.
3 it stated the pound but that never meant it was agreed it could use the pound, No plan B was in place
4 The economics white paper you speak of was a work of fiction, full of we will do this and we will do that, it missed a crucial piece of information, how it would all be paid for. So yes I read it , but I read it with an open mind and not a blinkered mind set.
Again on the white paper, if it was so amazing why has it been dumped and is being totally reworked by the 2nd minister Nicola. ?
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"Thx for the update but it's just almost exactly what I said 10 weeks ago. Oor wee savvy Nicola will follow Bojo's every move but will delay doing the same as him by roughly 2 -3 weeks. (TBF i said a week to 10 days ) . This has fuck all to do with how the virus is spreading it's simply to cover her arse and avoid blame if it returns a second wave. She can say , well I waited 2 weeks longer so blame Engerlund for its return . Shes a coward pure and simple. She dosnt give a hoot about businesses or people's lives being impacted not to mention the disadvantages of businesses north of the border by delaying her copy catting. It's all politics pure and simple.
You must not know we are 2 to 3 weeks behind in the spike of the virus,so she is only going with what she is being advised to do
I think if you go back roughly 10 weeks ago nobody knew when the spike would be, The 2nd minister Nicola said she would decide when lockdown restrictions would end in Scotland. I guess I just got lucky 10 weeks ago when I said the 2nd minister Nicola would follow Bojo's every move just a short time later. Shes playing a game, shes always played games, from the campaign to reject Brexit , so she could have another excuse to strengthen her independence movement. Shes what is known in Scotland as a canny wee lassie.
I think you will find the independence movement is much bigger than the SNP, ya canny wee laddie
Not according to the last vote but that's perhaps for a separate thread.
The last referendum was a once in a life time chance to make a change.... well at least that’s what we were lead to believe. Independence will no go away until wee Jimmy Krankie is crowned the imperial leader of Scotland
What's with the name calling?! British nationalists are the only people I hear calling the first minister "wee nippy or wee Jimmy Krankie" Pathetic!!! And are we not allowed to change our minds...we live in a democratic society do we not?!! but what you're saying is we're not allowed to change our minds?! Like I said, the independence movement is much much larger than the SNP. I'm not even a supporter of the SNP I was just stating a fact...
I am the opposite, an SNP supporter and also a British nationalist but not a fan of Jimmy Krankie. I think she has used this pandemic to drum up support for a new referendum. We will see how long it takes before independence rears it’s ugly head again and we can all hear how better off we will be because we have an oil industry.....wait a minute.... we export whiskey.... wait a minute.....ship building....fuck it shortbread and they little bag piper dolls will support the economy. As I have said we will keep on having referendums until we go independent
Hmmm British nationalist supporting SNP when SNP don't hide the fact that they are the independence party?! Calling the first minister names is just low and shows low levels of intelligence, as is talking down Scotland!!! Incidentally, you are right...independence is coming, whether you like it or not! With or without a section 30 order. Oh, and the SNP are now on the forth/fifth mandate to hold a referendum or have you not been paying attention?! Also whisky (Scottish) whiskey (Irish) ??
I'm also puzzled by a few things the pro indy movement involves,
If you want to be independent why stay in the EU , makes no sense
Why was it billed as a once in a generation vote then almost immediately sought again
Why were there never answers on what currency we would use
Why was there never information about how it could cope financially or show some kind of financial outlook
How would we defend ourselves as an independent country
All the SNP kept saying was , ach it will all be OK
Really ????
Last point I would say, no chance on this planet could the SNP have covered this pandemic by use of the furlough scheme as it is just now. If you believe it could have then your not only an idealist your a fantasist.
1. The EU is a political and economic alliance of independent nations. No conflict there.
2. The referendum had the open caveat that should some major event happen regarding the direction of the UK, then another one could be called. Brexit qualifies.
3. The SNP clearly stated an independent Scotland would use the pound.
4. There was plenty of information on the economics of independence of you had the motivation to look for it, or the wit to understand it.
1 how can you be independent if Brussels can enforce rules and quotas on you
2 The Brexit campaign in Scotland was carefully swayed by Nicola's comment to propogate a major event, ie , she knew the majority of the UK wanted out of the EU, So she influenced the Scottish people by steering SNP supporters that voting to stay in Europe would set the table for another indy vote because it was poor Scotland being forced out of Europe against its will. Remember Brexit in Scotland was 52% remain 48% leave. Not what I would call a major event. Given that the SNP hold a vast amount of voters I think if it weren't for the carrot of independence, Scotland would also have voted for leaving Europe had it not been politisised for more independence campaigning.
3 it stated the pound but that never meant it was agreed it could use the pound, No plan B was in place
4 The economics white paper you speak of was a work of fiction, full of we will do this and we will do that, it missed a crucial piece of information, how it would all be paid for. So yes I read it , but I read it with an open mind and not a blinkered mind set.
Again on the white paper, if it was so amazing why has it been dumped and is being totally reworked by the 2nd minister Nicola. ?
Everything you've written is opinion, not fact.
No !!
1 Is fact
2 Is opinion
3 Is fact
4 Is fact
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"Thx for the update but it's just almost exactly what I said 10 weeks ago. Oor wee savvy Nicola will follow Bojo's every move but will delay doing the same as him by roughly 2 -3 weeks. (TBF i said a week to 10 days ) . This has fuck all to do with how the virus is spreading it's simply to cover her arse and avoid blame if it returns a second wave. She can say , well I waited 2 weeks longer so blame Engerlund for its return . Shes a coward pure and simple. She dosnt give a hoot about businesses or people's lives being impacted not to mention the disadvantages of businesses north of the border by delaying her copy catting. It's all politics pure and simple.
You must not know we are 2 to 3 weeks behind in the spike of the virus,so she is only going with what she is being advised to do
I think if you go back roughly 10 weeks ago nobody knew when the spike would be, The 2nd minister Nicola said she would decide when lockdown restrictions would end in Scotland. I guess I just got lucky 10 weeks ago when I said the 2nd minister Nicola would follow Bojo's every move just a short time later. Shes playing a game, shes always played games, from the campaign to reject Brexit , so she could have another excuse to strengthen her independence movement. Shes what is known in Scotland as a canny wee lassie.
I think you will find the independence movement is much bigger than the SNP, ya canny wee laddie
Not according to the last vote but that's perhaps for a separate thread.
The last referendum was a once in a life time chance to make a change.... well at least that’s what we were lead to believe. Independence will no go away until wee Jimmy Krankie is crowned the imperial leader of Scotland
What's with the name calling?! British nationalists are the only people I hear calling the first minister "wee nippy or wee Jimmy Krankie" Pathetic!!! And are we not allowed to change our minds...we live in a democratic society do we not?!! but what you're saying is we're not allowed to change our minds?! Like I said, the independence movement is much much larger than the SNP. I'm not even a supporter of the SNP I was just stating a fact...
I am the opposite, an SNP supporter and also a British nationalist but not a fan of Jimmy Krankie. I think she has used this pandemic to drum up support for a new referendum. We will see how long it takes before independence rears it’s ugly head again and we can all hear how better off we will be because we have an oil industry.....wait a minute.... we export whiskey.... wait a minute.....ship building....fuck it shortbread and they little bag piper dolls will support the economy. As I have said we will keep on having referendums until we go independent
Hmmm British nationalist supporting SNP when SNP don't hide the fact that they are the independence party?! Calling the first minister names is just low and shows low levels of intelligence, as is talking down Scotland!!! Incidentally, you are right...independence is coming, whether you like it or not! With or without a section 30 order. Oh, and the SNP are now on the forth/fifth mandate to hold a referendum or have you not been paying attention?! Also whisky (Scottish) whiskey (Irish) ??
I'm also puzzled by a few things the pro indy movement involves,
If you want to be independent why stay in the EU , makes no sense
Why was it billed as a once in a generation vote then almost immediately sought again
Why were there never answers on what currency we would use
Why was there never information about how it could cope financially or show some kind of financial outlook
How would we defend ourselves as an independent country
All the SNP kept saying was , ach it will all be OK
Really ????
Last point I would say, no chance on this planet could the SNP have covered this pandemic by use of the furlough scheme as it is just now. If you believe it could have then your not only an idealist your a fantasist.
1. The EU is a political and economic alliance of independent nations. No conflict there.
2. The referendum had the open caveat that should some major event happen regarding the direction of the UK, then another one could be called. Brexit qualifies.
3. The SNP clearly stated an independent Scotland would use the pound.
4. There was plenty of information on the economics of independence of you had the motivation to look for it, or the wit to understand it.
1 how can you be independent if Brussels can enforce rules and quotas on you
2 The Brexit campaign in Scotland was carefully swayed by Nicola's comment to propogate a major event, ie , she knew the majority of the UK wanted out of the EU, So she influenced the Scottish people by steering SNP supporters that voting to stay in Europe would set the table for another indy vote because it was poor Scotland being forced out of Europe against its will. Remember Brexit in Scotland was 52% remain 48% leave. Not what I would call a major event. Given that the SNP hold a vast amount of voters I think if it weren't for the carrot of independence, Scotland would also have voted for leaving Europe had it not been politisised for more independence campaigning.
3 it stated the pound but that never meant it was agreed it could use the pound, No plan B was in place
4 The economics white paper you speak of was a work of fiction, full of we will do this and we will do that, it missed a crucial piece of information, how it would all be paid for. So yes I read it , but I read it with an open mind and not a blinkered mind set.
Again on the white paper, if it was so amazing why has it been dumped and is being totally reworked by the 2nd minister Nicola. ?
Everything you've written is opinion, not fact.
No !!
1 Is fact
2 Is opinion
3 Is fact
4 Is fact
Yawn. If you can't even tell the difference between fact and opinion then there's no point debating
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"Thx for the update but it's just almost exactly what I said 10 weeks ago. Oor wee savvy Nicola will follow Bojo's every move but will delay doing the same as him by roughly 2 -3 weeks. (TBF i said a week to 10 days ) . This has fuck all to do with how the virus is spreading it's simply to cover her arse and avoid blame if it returns a second wave. She can say , well I waited 2 weeks longer so blame Engerlund for its return . Shes a coward pure and simple. She dosnt give a hoot about businesses or people's lives being impacted not to mention the disadvantages of businesses north of the border by delaying her copy catting. It's all politics pure and simple.
You must not know we are 2 to 3 weeks behind in the spike of the virus,so she is only going with what she is being advised to do
I think if you go back roughly 10 weeks ago nobody knew when the spike would be, The 2nd minister Nicola said she would decide when lockdown restrictions would end in Scotland. I guess I just got lucky 10 weeks ago when I said the 2nd minister Nicola would follow Bojo's every move just a short time later. Shes playing a game, shes always played games, from the campaign to reject Brexit , so she could have another excuse to strengthen her independence movement. Shes what is known in Scotland as a canny wee lassie.
I think you will find the independence movement is much bigger than the SNP, ya canny wee laddie
Not according to the last vote but that's perhaps for a separate thread.
The last referendum was a once in a life time chance to make a change.... well at least that’s what we were lead to believe. Independence will no go away until wee Jimmy Krankie is crowned the imperial leader of Scotland
What's with the name calling?! British nationalists are the only people I hear calling the first minister "wee nippy or wee Jimmy Krankie" Pathetic!!! And are we not allowed to change our minds...we live in a democratic society do we not?!! but what you're saying is we're not allowed to change our minds?! Like I said, the independence movement is much much larger than the SNP. I'm not even a supporter of the SNP I was just stating a fact...
I am the opposite, an SNP supporter and also a British nationalist but not a fan of Jimmy Krankie. I think she has used this pandemic to drum up support for a new referendum. We will see how long it takes before independence rears it’s ugly head again and we can all hear how better off we will be because we have an oil industry.....wait a minute.... we export whiskey.... wait a minute.....ship building....fuck it shortbread and they little bag piper dolls will support the economy. As I have said we will keep on having referendums until we go independent
Hmmm British nationalist supporting SNP when SNP don't hide the fact that they are the independence party?! Calling the first minister names is just low and shows low levels of intelligence, as is talking down Scotland!!! Incidentally, you are right...independence is coming, whether you like it or not! With or without a section 30 order. Oh, and the SNP are now on the forth/fifth mandate to hold a referendum or have you not been paying attention?! Also whisky (Scottish) whiskey (Irish) ??
I'm also puzzled by a few things the pro indy movement involves,
If you want to be independent why stay in the EU , makes no sense
Why was it billed as a once in a generation vote then almost immediately sought again
Why were there never answers on what currency we would use
Why was there never information about how it could cope financially or show some kind of financial outlook
How would we defend ourselves as an independent country
All the SNP kept saying was , ach it will all be OK
Really ????
Last point I would say, no chance on this planet could the SNP have covered this pandemic by use of the furlough scheme as it is just now. If you believe it could have then your not only an idealist your a fantasist.
1. The EU is a political and economic alliance of independent nations. No conflict there.
2. The referendum had the open caveat that should some major event happen regarding the direction of the UK, then another one could be called. Brexit qualifies.
3. The SNP clearly stated an independent Scotland would use the pound.
4. There was plenty of information on the economics of independence of you had the motivation to look for it, or the wit to understand it.
1 how can you be independent if Brussels can enforce rules and quotas on you
2 The Brexit campaign in Scotland was carefully swayed by Nicola's comment to propogate a major event, ie , she knew the majority of the UK wanted out of the EU, So she influenced the Scottish people by steering SNP supporters that voting to stay in Europe would set the table for another indy vote because it was poor Scotland being forced out of Europe against its will. Remember Brexit in Scotland was 52% remain 48% leave. Not what I would call a major event. Given that the SNP hold a vast amount of voters I think if it weren't for the carrot of independence, Scotland would also have voted for leaving Europe had it not been politisised for more independence campaigning.
3 it stated the pound but that never meant it was agreed it could use the pound, No plan B was in place
4 The economics white paper you speak of was a work of fiction, full of we will do this and we will do that, it missed a crucial piece of information, how it would all be paid for. So yes I read it , but I read it with an open mind and not a blinkered mind set.
Again on the white paper, if it was so amazing why has it been dumped and is being totally reworked by the 2nd minister Nicola. ?
Everything you've written is opinion, not fact.
No !!
1 Is fact
2 Is opinion
3 Is fact
4 Is fact
Yawn. If you can't even tell the difference between fact and opinion then there's no point debating
...and has been mentioned before, your opinions are backed up by lies. It was 62% remain vs 38% leave. That's a fact."Yes you are quite correct on those figures my mistake but that was number 2 on the list I never a claimed number 2 as factual, even stated number 2 as opinion . Next !!! | |||
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"Thx for the update but it's just almost exactly what I said 10 weeks ago. Oor wee savvy Nicola will follow Bojo's every move but will delay doing the same as him by roughly 2 -3 weeks. (TBF i said a week to 10 days ) . This has fuck all to do with how the virus is spreading it's simply to cover her arse and avoid blame if it returns a second wave. She can say , well I waited 2 weeks longer so blame Engerlund for its return . Shes a coward pure and simple. She dosnt give a hoot about businesses or people's lives being impacted not to mention the disadvantages of businesses north of the border by delaying her copy catting. It's all politics pure and simple.
You must not know we are 2 to 3 weeks behind in the spike of the virus,so she is only going with what she is being advised to do
I think if you go back roughly 10 weeks ago nobody knew when the spike would be, The 2nd minister Nicola said she would decide when lockdown restrictions would end in Scotland. I guess I just got lucky 10 weeks ago when I said the 2nd minister Nicola would follow Bojo's every move just a short time later. Shes playing a game, shes always played games, from the campaign to reject Brexit , so she could have another excuse to strengthen her independence movement. Shes what is known in Scotland as a canny wee lassie.
I think you will find the independence movement is much bigger than the SNP, ya canny wee laddie
Not according to the last vote but that's perhaps for a separate thread.
The last referendum was a once in a life time chance to make a change.... well at least that’s what we were lead to believe. Independence will no go away until wee Jimmy Krankie is crowned the imperial leader of Scotland
What's with the name calling?! British nationalists are the only people I hear calling the first minister "wee nippy or wee Jimmy Krankie" Pathetic!!! And are we not allowed to change our minds...we live in a democratic society do we not?!! but what you're saying is we're not allowed to change our minds?! Like I said, the independence movement is much much larger than the SNP. I'm not even a supporter of the SNP I was just stating a fact...
I am the opposite, an SNP supporter and also a British nationalist but not a fan of Jimmy Krankie. I think she has used this pandemic to drum up support for a new referendum. We will see how long it takes before independence rears it’s ugly head again and we can all hear how better off we will be because we have an oil industry.....wait a minute.... we export whiskey.... wait a minute.....ship building....fuck it shortbread and they little bag piper dolls will support the economy. As I have said we will keep on having referendums until we go independent
Hmmm British nationalist supporting SNP when SNP don't hide the fact that they are the independence party?! Calling the first minister names is just low and shows low levels of intelligence, as is talking down Scotland!!! Incidentally, you are right...independence is coming, whether you like it or not! With or without a section 30 order. Oh, and the SNP are now on the forth/fifth mandate to hold a referendum or have you not been paying attention?! Also whisky (Scottish) whiskey (Irish) ??
I'm also puzzled by a few things the pro indy movement involves,
If you want to be independent why stay in the EU , makes no sense
Why was it billed as a once in a generation vote then almost immediately sought again
Why were there never answers on what currency we would use
Why was there never information about how it could cope financially or show some kind of financial outlook
How would we defend ourselves as an independent country
All the SNP kept saying was , ach it will all be OK
Really ????
Last point I would say, no chance on this planet could the SNP have covered this pandemic by use of the furlough scheme as it is just now. If you believe it could have then your not only an idealist your a fantasist.
1. The EU is a political and economic alliance of independent nations. No conflict there.
2. The referendum had the open caveat that should some major event happen regarding the direction of the UK, then another one could be called. Brexit qualifies.
3. The SNP clearly stated an independent Scotland would use the pound.
4. There was plenty of information on the economics of independence of you had the motivation to look for it, or the wit to understand it.
1 how can you be independent if Brussels can enforce rules and quotas on you
2 The Brexit campaign in Scotland was carefully swayed by Nicola's comment to propogate a major event, ie , she knew the majority of the UK wanted out of the EU, So she influenced the Scottish people by steering SNP supporters that voting to stay in Europe would set the table for another indy vote because it was poor Scotland being forced out of Europe against its will. Remember Brexit in Scotland was 52% remain 48% leave. Not what I would call a major event. Given that the SNP hold a vast amount of voters I think if it weren't for the carrot of independence, Scotland would also have voted for leaving Europe had it not been politisised for more independence campaigning.
3 it stated the pound but that never meant it was agreed it could use the pound, No plan B was in place
4 The economics white paper you speak of was a work of fiction, full of we will do this and we will do that, it missed a crucial piece of information, how it would all be paid for. So yes I read it , but I read it with an open mind and not a blinkered mind set.
Again on the white paper, if it was so amazing why has it been dumped and is being totally reworked by the 2nd minister Nicola. ?
Everything you've written is opinion, not fact.
No !!
1 Is fact
2 Is opinion
3 Is fact
4 Is fact
Yawn. If you can't even tell the difference between fact and opinion then there's no point debating
...and has been mentioned before, your opinions are backed up by lies. It was 62% remain vs 38% leave. That's a fact.
Yes you are quite correct on those figures my mistake but that was number 2 on the list I never a claimed number 2 as factual, even stated number 2 as opinion .
Next !!! "Nah. You've shown you don't know what you're talking about. Can't even get the numbers right. Do a bit of research on the EU and the white paper and come back to me. Cheerio | |||
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"Thx for the update but it's just almost exactly what I said 10 weeks ago. Oor wee savvy Nicola will follow Bojo's every move but will delay doing the same as him by roughly 2 -3 weeks. (TBF i said a week to 10 days ) . This has fuck all to do with how the virus is spreading it's simply to cover her arse and avoid blame if it returns a second wave. She can say , well I waited 2 weeks longer so blame Engerlund for its return . Shes a coward pure and simple. She dosnt give a hoot about businesses or people's lives being impacted not to mention the disadvantages of businesses north of the border by delaying her copy catting. It's all politics pure and simple.
You must not know we are 2 to 3 weeks behind in the spike of the virus,so she is only going with what she is being advised to do
I think if you go back roughly 10 weeks ago nobody knew when the spike would be, The 2nd minister Nicola said she would decide when lockdown restrictions would end in Scotland. I guess I just got lucky 10 weeks ago when I said the 2nd minister Nicola would follow Bojo's every move just a short time later. Shes playing a game, shes always played games, from the campaign to reject Brexit , so she could have another excuse to strengthen her independence movement. Shes what is known in Scotland as a canny wee lassie.
I think you will find the independence movement is much bigger than the SNP, ya canny wee laddie
Not according to the last vote but that's perhaps for a separate thread.
The last referendum was a once in a life time chance to make a change.... well at least that’s what we were lead to believe. Independence will no go away until wee Jimmy Krankie is crowned the imperial leader of Scotland
What's with the name calling?! British nationalists are the only people I hear calling the first minister "wee nippy or wee Jimmy Krankie" Pathetic!!! And are we not allowed to change our minds...we live in a democratic society do we not?!! but what you're saying is we're not allowed to change our minds?! Like I said, the independence movement is much much larger than the SNP. I'm not even a supporter of the SNP I was just stating a fact...
I am the opposite, an SNP supporter and also a British nationalist but not a fan of Jimmy Krankie. I think she has used this pandemic to drum up support for a new referendum. We will see how long it takes before independence rears it’s ugly head again and we can all hear how better off we will be because we have an oil industry.....wait a minute.... we export whiskey.... wait a minute.....ship building....fuck it shortbread and they little bag piper dolls will support the economy. As I have said we will keep on having referendums until we go independent
Hmmm British nationalist supporting SNP when SNP don't hide the fact that they are the independence party?! Calling the first minister names is just low and shows low levels of intelligence, as is talking down Scotland!!! Incidentally, you are right...independence is coming, whether you like it or not! With or without a section 30 order. Oh, and the SNP are now on the forth/fifth mandate to hold a referendum or have you not been paying attention?! Also whisky (Scottish) whiskey (Irish) ??
I'm also puzzled by a few things the pro indy movement involves,
If you want to be independent why stay in the EU , makes no sense
Why was it billed as a once in a generation vote then almost immediately sought again
Why were there never answers on what currency we would use
Why was there never information about how it could cope financially or show some kind of financial outlook
How would we defend ourselves as an independent country
All the SNP kept saying was , ach it will all be OK
Really ????
Last point I would say, no chance on this planet could the SNP have covered this pandemic by use of the furlough scheme as it is just now. If you believe it could have then your not only an idealist your a fantasist.
1. The EU is a political and economic alliance of independent nations. No conflict there.
2. The referendum had the open caveat that should some major event happen regarding the direction of the UK, then another one could be called. Brexit qualifies.
3. The SNP clearly stated an independent Scotland would use the pound.
4. There was plenty of information on the economics of independence of you had the motivation to look for it, or the wit to understand it.
1 how can you be independent if Brussels can enforce rules and quotas on you
2 The Brexit campaign in Scotland was carefully swayed by Nicola's comment to propogate a major event, ie , she knew the majority of the UK wanted out of the EU, So she influenced the Scottish people by steering SNP supporters that voting to stay in Europe would set the table for another indy vote because it was poor Scotland being forced out of Europe against its will. Remember Brexit in Scotland was 52% remain 48% leave. Not what I would call a major event. Given that the SNP hold a vast amount of voters I think if it weren't for the carrot of independence, Scotland would also have voted for leaving Europe had it not been politisised for more independence campaigning.
3 it stated the pound but that never meant it was agreed it could use the pound, No plan B was in place
4 The economics white paper you speak of was a work of fiction, full of we will do this and we will do that, it missed a crucial piece of information, how it would all be paid for. So yes I read it , but I read it with an open mind and not a blinkered mind set.
Again on the white paper, if it was so amazing why has it been dumped and is being totally reworked by the 2nd minister Nicola. ?
Everything you've written is opinion, not fact.
No !!
1 Is fact
2 Is opinion
3 Is fact
4 Is fact
Yawn. If you can't even tell the difference between fact and opinion then there's no point debating
...and has been mentioned before, your opinions are backed up by lies. It was 62% remain vs 38% leave. That's a fact."You never actually replied to point 1,3 or 4 , or gave a reason why the indy white paper was dumped. And if you don't see any point debating why do you feel compelled to reply lol. | |||
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"Thx for the update but it's just almost exactly what I said 10 weeks ago. Oor wee savvy Nicola will follow Bojo's every move but will delay doing the same as him by roughly 2 -3 weeks. (TBF i said a week to 10 days ) . This has fuck all to do with how the virus is spreading it's simply to cover her arse and avoid blame if it returns a second wave. She can say , well I waited 2 weeks longer so blame Engerlund for its return . Shes a coward pure and simple. She dosnt give a hoot about businesses or people's lives being impacted not to mention the disadvantages of businesses north of the border by delaying her copy catting. It's all politics pure and simple.
You must not know we are 2 to 3 weeks behind in the spike of the virus,so she is only going with what she is being advised to do
I think if you go back roughly 10 weeks ago nobody knew when the spike would be, The 2nd minister Nicola said she would decide when lockdown restrictions would end in Scotland. I guess I just got lucky 10 weeks ago when I said the 2nd minister Nicola would follow Bojo's every move just a short time later. Shes playing a game, shes always played games, from the campaign to reject Brexit , so she could have another excuse to strengthen her independence movement. Shes what is known in Scotland as a canny wee lassie.
I think you will find the independence movement is much bigger than the SNP, ya canny wee laddie
Not according to the last vote but that's perhaps for a separate thread.
The last referendum was a once in a life time chance to make a change.... well at least that’s what we were lead to believe. Independence will no go away until wee Jimmy Krankie is crowned the imperial leader of Scotland
What's with the name calling?! British nationalists are the only people I hear calling the first minister "wee nippy or wee Jimmy Krankie" Pathetic!!! And are we not allowed to change our minds...we live in a democratic society do we not?!! but what you're saying is we're not allowed to change our minds?! Like I said, the independence movement is much much larger than the SNP. I'm not even a supporter of the SNP I was just stating a fact...
I am the opposite, an SNP supporter and also a British nationalist but not a fan of Jimmy Krankie. I think she has used this pandemic to drum up support for a new referendum. We will see how long it takes before independence rears it’s ugly head again and we can all hear how better off we will be because we have an oil industry.....wait a minute.... we export whiskey.... wait a minute.....ship building....fuck it shortbread and they little bag piper dolls will support the economy. As I have said we will keep on having referendums until we go independent
Hmmm British nationalist supporting SNP when SNP don't hide the fact that they are the independence party?! Calling the first minister names is just low and shows low levels of intelligence, as is talking down Scotland!!! Incidentally, you are right...independence is coming, whether you like it or not! With or without a section 30 order. Oh, and the SNP are now on the forth/fifth mandate to hold a referendum or have you not been paying attention?! Also whisky (Scottish) whiskey (Irish) ??
I'm also puzzled by a few things the pro indy movement involves,
If you want to be independent why stay in the EU , makes no sense
Why was it billed as a once in a generation vote then almost immediately sought again
Why were there never answers on what currency we would use
Why was there never information about how it could cope financially or show some kind of financial outlook
How would we defend ourselves as an independent country
All the SNP kept saying was , ach it will all be OK
Really ????
Last point I would say, no chance on this planet could the SNP have covered this pandemic by use of the furlough scheme as it is just now. If you believe it could have then your not only an idealist your a fantasist.
1. The EU is a political and economic alliance of independent nations. No conflict there.
2. The referendum had the open caveat that should some major event happen regarding the direction of the UK, then another one could be called. Brexit qualifies.
3. The SNP clearly stated an independent Scotland would use the pound.
4. There was plenty of information on the economics of independence of you had the motivation to look for it, or the wit to understand it.
1 how can you be independent if Brussels can enforce rules and quotas on you
2 The Brexit campaign in Scotland was carefully swayed by Nicola's comment to propogate a major event, ie , she knew the majority of the UK wanted out of the EU, So she influenced the Scottish people by steering SNP supporters that voting to stay in Europe would set the table for another indy vote because it was poor Scotland being forced out of Europe against its will. Remember Brexit in Scotland was 52% remain 48% leave. Not what I would call a major event. Given that the SNP hold a vast amount of voters I think if it weren't for the carrot of independence, Scotland would also have voted for leaving Europe had it not been politisised for more independence campaigning.
3 it stated the pound but that never meant it was agreed it could use the pound, No plan B was in place
4 The economics white paper you speak of was a work of fiction, full of we will do this and we will do that, it missed a crucial piece of information, how it would all be paid for. So yes I read it , but I read it with an open mind and not a blinkered mind set.
Again on the white paper, if it was so amazing why has it been dumped and is being totally reworked by the 2nd minister Nicola. ?
Everything you've written is opinion, not fact.
No !!
1 Is fact
2 Is opinion
3 Is fact
4 Is fact
Yawn. If you can't even tell the difference between fact and opinion then there's no point debating
...and has been mentioned before, your opinions are backed up by lies. It was 62% remain vs 38% leave. That's a fact.
You never actually replied to point 1,3 or 4 , or gave a reason why the indy white paper was dumped.
And if you don't see any point debating why do you feel compelled to reply lol. "I believe the the 52% 48% split you were thinking of was indy ref - we came, we saw, we voted! Surprise surprise - we still moaned | |||
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"Thx for the update but it's just almost exactly what I said 10 weeks ago. Oor wee savvy Nicola will follow Bojo's every move but will delay doing the same as him by roughly 2 -3 weeks. (TBF i said a week to 10 days ) . This has fuck all to do with how the virus is spreading it's simply to cover her arse and avoid blame if it returns a second wave. She can say , well I waited 2 weeks longer so blame Engerlund for its return . Shes a coward pure and simple. She dosnt give a hoot about businesses or people's lives being impacted not to mention the disadvantages of businesses north of the border by delaying her copy catting. It's all politics pure and simple.
You must not know we are 2 to 3 weeks behind in the spike of the virus,so she is only going with what she is being advised to do
I think if you go back roughly 10 weeks ago nobody knew when the spike would be, The 2nd minister Nicola said she would decide when lockdown restrictions would end in Scotland. I guess I just got lucky 10 weeks ago when I said the 2nd minister Nicola would follow Bojo's every move just a short time later. Shes playing a game, shes always played games, from the campaign to reject Brexit , so she could have another excuse to strengthen her independence movement. Shes what is known in Scotland as a canny wee lassie.
I think you will find the independence movement is much bigger than the SNP, ya canny wee laddie
Not according to the last vote but that's perhaps for a separate thread.
The last referendum was a once in a life time chance to make a change.... well at least that’s what we were lead to believe. Independence will no go away until wee Jimmy Krankie is crowned the imperial leader of Scotland
What's with the name calling?! British nationalists are the only people I hear calling the first minister "wee nippy or wee Jimmy Krankie" Pathetic!!! And are we not allowed to change our minds...we live in a democratic society do we not?!! but what you're saying is we're not allowed to change our minds?! Like I said, the independence movement is much much larger than the SNP. I'm not even a supporter of the SNP I was just stating a fact...
I am the opposite, an SNP supporter and also a British nationalist but not a fan of Jimmy Krankie. I think she has used this pandemic to drum up support for a new referendum. We will see how long it takes before independence rears it’s ugly head again and we can all hear how better off we will be because we have an oil industry.....wait a minute.... we export whiskey.... wait a minute.....ship building....fuck it shortbread and they little bag piper dolls will support the economy. As I have said we will keep on having referendums until we go independent
Hmmm British nationalist supporting SNP when SNP don't hide the fact that they are the independence party?! Calling the first minister names is just low and shows low levels of intelligence, as is talking down Scotland!!! Incidentally, you are right...independence is coming, whether you like it or not! With or without a section 30 order. Oh, and the SNP are now on the forth/fifth mandate to hold a referendum or have you not been paying attention?! Also whisky (Scottish) whiskey (Irish) ??
I'm also puzzled by a few things the pro indy movement involves,
If you want to be independent why stay in the EU , makes no sense
Why was it billed as a once in a generation vote then almost immediately sought again
Why were there never answers on what currency we would use
Why was there never information about how it could cope financially or show some kind of financial outlook
How would we defend ourselves as an independent country
All the SNP kept saying was , ach it will all be OK
Really ????
Last point I would say, no chance on this planet could the SNP have covered this pandemic by use of the furlough scheme as it is just now. If you believe it could have then your not only an idealist your a fantasist.
1. The EU is a political and economic alliance of independent nations. No conflict there.
2. The referendum had the open caveat that should some major event happen regarding the direction of the UK, then another one could be called. Brexit qualifies.
3. The SNP clearly stated an independent Scotland would use the pound.
4. There was plenty of information on the economics of independence of you had the motivation to look for it, or the wit to understand it.
1 how can you be independent if Brussels can enforce rules and quotas on you
2 The Brexit campaign in Scotland was carefully swayed by Nicola's comment to propogate a major event, ie , she knew the majority of the UK wanted out of the EU, So she influenced the Scottish people by steering SNP supporters that voting to stay in Europe would set the table for another indy vote because it was poor Scotland being forced out of Europe against its will. Remember Brexit in Scotland was 52% remain 48% leave. Not what I would call a major event. Given that the SNP hold a vast amount of voters I think if it weren't for the carrot of independence, Scotland would also have voted for leaving Europe had it not been politisised for more independence campaigning.
3 it stated the pound but that never meant it was agreed it could use the pound, No plan B was in place
4 The economics white paper you speak of was a work of fiction, full of we will do this and we will do that, it missed a crucial piece of information, how it would all be paid for. So yes I read it , but I read it with an open mind and not a blinkered mind set.
Again on the white paper, if it was so amazing why has it been dumped and is being totally reworked by the 2nd minister Nicola. ?
Everything you've written is opinion, not fact.
No !!
1 Is fact
2 Is opinion
3 Is fact
4 Is fact
Yawn. If you can't even tell the difference between fact and opinion then there's no point debating
...and has been mentioned before, your opinions are backed up by lies. It was 62% remain vs 38% leave. That's a fact.
You never actually replied to point 1,3 or 4 , or gave a reason why the indy white paper was dumped.
And if you don't see any point debating why do you feel compelled to reply lol.
I believe the the 52% 48% split you were thinking of was indy ref - we came, we saw, we voted! Surprise surprise - we still moaned "It was the actual Brexit results for the uk I quoted by mistake. Was called lies but hey ho lol. The point was not the percentages though the point was the SNP's innapropriate attempt to manipulate the Scottish people by dangling a carrot, offering an opportunity for another indy vote if Scotland voted differently to the rest of the uk on Brexit.  | |||
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https://www.gov.scot/publications/coronavirus-covid-19-framework-decision-making-scotlands-route-map-through-out-crisis-phase-3-update/
You’ll have to wait till 15th July for hairdressers and the 22nd July for nail bars/beauticians
NOT BEFORE 31st July
Non-essential offices and call centres can re-open following implementation of relevant guidance (including physical distancing). Working from home and working flexibly remain the default.
Live events (outdoors) – with physical distancing and restricted numbers.
Note: this broad category is under review to determine which types of events are safe to resume slightly earlier.
Bingo halls (with physical distancing).
Driving lessons to resume.
Live events (indoors) – with physical distancing and restricted numbers.
Other indoor live-entertainment venues (e.g. theatres, music venues).
Indoor gyms – (with physical distancing and enhanced hygiene measures).
Resumption of non-professional adult outdoor contact sports.
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"Still unsure of crossborder travel to see my parents. " Is it to visit and visit only ? | |||
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"Still unsure of crossborder travel to see my parents. Is it to visit and visit only ? "Yes but I would normally stay for a couple of days before heading back down. | |||
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