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"Following on from a thread a couple of days ago about sex appeal which is quite often linked to confidence my question is this.. Is someone with lack of self confidence or self deprecating a turn off for you? For me (mr) i find that confident woman are more attractive to me. It’s off putting when someone brings up their hang ups like their boobs, belly or arse. Most of the time I haven’t even noticed until they point it out I can be up and down confidence wise myself though. When I’m feeling low in confidence I tend to be more shy in meets and wait to be asked to do something rather than take the lead. " Yes my confidence can be up and down too! I think my problem is actually getting to the meet. Once I'm there body blocks out the brain haha | |||
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"I quite like when people are self deprecating, but not to the extent that they dwell on their insecurities or lack of confidence " I totally agree with the above, plus if we can make a joke about others then at least be able to do the same about ones self and also be able to take a joke from others. | |||
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"I quite like when people are self deprecating, but not to the extent that they dwell on their insecurities or lack of confidence I totally agree with the above, plus if we can make a joke about others then at least be able to do the same about ones self and also be able to take a joke from others. " | |||
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"I quite like when people are self deprecating, but not to the extent that they dwell on their insecurities or lack of confidence I totally agree with the above, plus if we can make a joke about others then at least be able to do the same about ones self and also be able to take a joke from others. " Very true - finding that balance can be hard though haha | |||
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"I much prefer confident people especially on Fab. I once had a social meet with a man who was sweating buckets and told me 100x how nervous he was. Big turn off. " If a woman had been in my company with the same nerves,I would have took it as a compliment. | |||
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"I personally hate self deprecation and self sabotage. Even if you say something nice and they go, "meh". It is totally frustrating.... You have wonder what has happened in that persons life to be so down stroddened and to hate themselves so much... The physcological impact of life history (baggage - term which I hate!!!) is very difficult to overcome. Sometimes to the point were it sabotages whole relationships. Then there is alsi the attitude of saver, let me save you role.. we're a person thinks they can help the self deprecater by changing them. When really the individual needs to look deep within themselves rather than have a crutch to lean on constantly!!! Stand on your own two feet and feel the world in your toes. You can tell it is a subject close to both Myself and Lady Vs heart as we see so many people hide from living life and enjoyjng who they are. So many people do not know who they are and are lost souls wandering until the reaper slices them down. " I can definitely relate to the self sabotage and building high walls to protect yourself. The compliment thing van be strange though. I've found that sometimes people think if someone is being self deprecating they are just looking for more compliments when infact it's often that they don't know how to take a compliment or aren't used to them so try and brush it off uncomfortably. The psychology of how the mind works is fascinating to me | |||
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"I personally hate self deprecation and self sabotage. Even if you say something nice and they go, "meh". It is totally frustrating.... You have wonder what has happened in that persons life to be so down stroddened and to hate themselves so much... The physcological impact of life history (baggage - term which I hate!!!) is very difficult to overcome. Sometimes to the point were it sabotages whole relationships. Then there is alsi the attitude of saver, let me save you role.. we're a person thinks they can help the self deprecater by changing them. When really the individual needs to look deep within themselves rather than have a crutch to lean on constantly!!! Stand on your own two feet and feel the world in your toes. You can tell it is a subject close to both Myself and Lady Vs heart as we see so many people hide from living life and enjoyjng who they are. So many people do not know who they are and are lost souls wandering until the reaper slices them down. I can definitely relate to the self sabotage and building high walls to protect yourself. The compliment thing van be strange though. I've found that sometimes people think if someone is being self deprecating they are just looking for more compliments when infact it's often that they don't know how to take a compliment or aren't used to them so try and brush it off uncomfortably. The psychology of how the mind works is fascinating to me " With regards to compliments, I just say "thanks" and leave it at that. Used to find it difficult to accept them as genuine but most folk mean well, so try and accept them with the good will they were offered. | |||
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"I used to use self deprecating humour but I wasn’t very good at it. I disagree " | |||
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"I would differentiate between self deprecation and poor self confidence. The first suggests a sense of modesty and the ability to laugh at yourself which is attractive to me. We're all daft at some point and failure to recognise or admit this screams arrogance to me. A complete lack of self confidence though, is unattractive. I think everyone will have fleeting moments of it but sometimes you just have to say "balls to it" and jump into a situation with both feet. Otherwise you're destined to be a bystander your entire life." I agree. There's a difference. Self deprecation is an attempt at humour. Low self confidence is a personality trait. I don't have massive amounts of confidence, but I find that wee bit of humility much more appealing than over confidence. It's nice for someone to have a bit of modesty and humility, rather than thinking they're God's gift. That really will turn me off xx | |||
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"I would differentiate between self deprecation and poor self confidence. The first suggests a sense of modesty and the ability to laugh at yourself which is attractive to me. We're all daft at some point and failure to recognise or admit this screams arrogance to me. A complete lack of self confidence though, is unattractive. I think everyone will have fleeting moments of it but sometimes you just have to say "balls to it" and jump into a situation with both feet. Otherwise you're destined to be a bystander your entire life." People who can't admit to having stupid moments or mishaps in their lives protray themselves as being perfect and that's a big no no for me... I just think what a boring life they must have | |||
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"I used to use self deprecating humour but I wasn’t very good at it. I disagree " Your no bad at the old comedy thing but you are the best wingman ever!!! That night the electricity..... ah good memories lol | |||
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"I used to use self deprecating humour but I wasn’t very good at it. I disagree Your no bad at the old comedy thing but you are the best wingman ever!!! That night the electricity..... ah good memories lol " Ha yeah so much fun | |||
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"I used to use self deprecating humour but I wasn’t very good at it. I disagree Your no bad at the old comedy thing but you are the best wingman ever!!! That night the electricity..... ah good memories lol Ha yeah so much fun " Armed with a sonic screwdriver you bravely went into a room with 2 lesbians and locked the door.... afterwards you became a hero - a legend in the hallowed hall of Cjs ha ha | |||
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"I used to use self deprecating humour but I wasn’t very good at it. I disagree Your no bad at the old comedy thing but you are the best wingman ever!!! That night the electricity..... ah good memories lol Ha yeah so much fun Armed with a sonic screwdriver you bravely went into a room with 2 lesbians and locked the door.... afterwards you became a hero - a legend in the hallowed hall of Cjs ha ha " It’s a story that will go down in history Obviously I love telling it too | |||
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"I used to use self deprecating humour but I wasn’t very good at it. I disagree Your no bad at the old comedy thing but you are the best wingman ever!!! That night the electricity..... ah good memories lol Ha yeah so much fun Armed with a sonic screwdriver you bravely went into a room with 2 lesbians and locked the door.... afterwards you became a hero - a legend in the hallowed hall of Cjs ha ha It’s a story that will go down in history Obviously I love telling it too " | |||
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"I used to use self deprecating humour but I wasn’t very good at it. I disagree Your no bad at the old comedy thing but you are the best wingman ever!!! That night the electricity..... ah good memories lol Ha yeah so much fun Armed with a sonic screwdriver you bravely went into a room with 2 lesbians and locked the door.... afterwards you became a hero - a legend in the hallowed hall of Cjs ha ha It’s a story that will go down in history Obviously I love telling it too " Of course who knows when we will return to that normality | |||
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"I used to use self deprecating humour but I wasn’t very good at it. I disagree Your no bad at the old comedy thing but you are the best wingman ever!!! That night the electricity..... ah good memories lol Ha yeah so much fun Armed with a sonic screwdriver you bravely went into a room with 2 lesbians and locked the door.... afterwards you became a hero - a legend in the hallowed hall of Cjs ha ha It’s a story that will go down in history Obviously I love telling it too Of course who knows when we will return to that normality " When we do I’ll meet you at the usual place ... I’ll bring my bag of tricks ... you bring your sharp wit .... and we’ll have a whole new stage show to tour by the end of the night lol | |||
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"I used to use self deprecating humour but I wasn’t very good at it. I disagree Your no bad at the old comedy thing but you are the best wingman ever!!! That night the electricity..... ah good memories lol Ha yeah so much fun Armed with a sonic screwdriver you bravely went into a room with 2 lesbians and locked the door.... afterwards you became a hero - a legend in the hallowed hall of Cjs ha ha It’s a story that will go down in history Obviously I love telling it too Of course who knows when we will return to that normality When we do I’ll meet you at the usual place ... I’ll bring my bag of tricks ... you bring your sharp wit .... and we’ll have a whole new stage show to tour by the end of the night lol " Ha ha sounds like a plan. I’m in | |||
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"Some people continually use self deprecation to fish for compliments. It can get tiresome." I'm sure thats true of many people but some just aren't used to getting compliments so don't really know what to say. Especially when it can often feel like a compliment is a means to an end on here rather than genuine. | |||
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"I think there’s genuinely humble which carries with it a certain shy confidence and there’s also some that use manipulation built on poor me/victim which can be very damaging to others. Learning your own worth takes time and sometimes hard experience. " The manipulation hard done by ones, I can't be doing with | |||
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"I think there’s genuinely humble which carries with it a certain shy confidence and there’s also some that use manipulation built on poor me/victim which can be very damaging to others. Learning your own worth takes time and sometimes hard experience. The manipulation hard done by ones, I can't be doing with" Agreed | |||
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"I think there’s genuinely humble which carries with it a certain shy confidence and there’s also some that use manipulation built on poor me/victim which can be very damaging to others. Learning your own worth takes time and sometimes hard experience. " I completely agree. I love the genuinely humble who aren't aware of just how awesome/hot/amazing they are. The poor me act is draining and serves no purpose other than to overinflate someone's ego xx | |||
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"I think there’s genuinely humble which carries with it a certain shy confidence and there’s also some that use manipulation built on poor me/victim which can be very damaging to others. Learning your own worth takes time and sometimes hard experience. The manipulation hard done by ones, I can't be doing with" The 'hard done by' can be genuine. I seriously struggle with compliments. Not because I'm fishing for more, or because I want to appear humble, but because it's built into me. From a young age, I had a mother hell bent on destroying my self esteem. It's taken a lot of love and care from my husband to be able to accept a compliment without feeling like I'm being big headed. And even then, the voice is still there, telling me it is xx | |||
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"I think there’s genuinely humble which carries with it a certain shy confidence and there’s also some that use manipulation built on poor me/victim which can be very damaging to others. Learning your own worth takes time and sometimes hard experience. The manipulation hard done by ones, I can't be doing with The 'hard done by' can be genuine. I seriously struggle with compliments. Not because I'm fishing for more, or because I want to appear humble, but because it's built into me. From a young age, I had a mother hell bent on destroying my self esteem. It's taken a lot of love and care from my husband to be able to accept a compliment without feeling like I'm being big headed. And even then, the voice is still there, telling me it is xx" It sounds like your experience made you stronger and I don’t say that lightly. You may still carry scars but thanks to your husband they are healing and not causing further pain. In fact it can give insight which can be used to help others. Thank you for sharing that X | |||
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"I think there’s genuinely humble which carries with it a certain shy confidence and there’s also some that use manipulation built on poor me/victim which can be very damaging to others. Learning your own worth takes time and sometimes hard experience. The manipulation hard done by ones, I can't be doing with The 'hard done by' can be genuine. I seriously struggle with compliments. Not because I'm fishing for more, or because I want to appear humble, but because it's built into me. From a young age, I had a mother hell bent on destroying my self esteem. It's taken a lot of love and care from my husband to be able to accept a compliment without feeling like I'm being big headed. And even then, the voice is still there, telling me it is xx It sounds like your experience made you stronger and I don’t say that lightly. You may still carry scars but thanks to your husband they are healing and not causing further pain. In fact it can give insight which can be used to help others. Thank you for sharing that X" I agree with Flirt - thank you for sharing. I'm sure some days can be easier than others to fight against the voices but you are stronger than them now x | |||
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"I think there’s genuinely humble which carries with it a certain shy confidence and there’s also some that use manipulation built on poor me/victim which can be very damaging to others. Learning your own worth takes time and sometimes hard experience. The manipulation hard done by ones, I can't be doing with The 'hard done by' can be genuine. I seriously struggle with compliments. Not because I'm fishing for more, or because I want to appear humble, but because it's built into me. From a young age, I had a mother hell bent on destroying my self esteem. It's taken a lot of love and care from my husband to be able to accept a compliment without feeling like I'm being big headed. And even then, the voice is still there, telling me it is xx It sounds like your experience made you stronger and I don’t say that lightly. You may still carry scars but thanks to your husband they are healing and not causing further pain. In fact it can give insight which can be used to help others. Thank you for sharing that X I agree with Flirt - thank you for sharing. I'm sure some days can be easier than others to fight against the voices but you are stronger than them now x " Agreed Cede, I know poetry might not be everyone’s cup of tea but when I hear of those that have overcome hard knocks in life I think of this one. It’s apt for many things. Still I Rise BY MAYA ANGELOU You may write me down in history With your bitter, twisted lies, You may trod me in the very dirt But still, like dust, I'll rise. Does my sassiness upset you? Why are you beset with gloom? ’Cause I walk like I've got oil wells Pumping in my living room. Just like moons and like suns, With the certainty of tides, Just like hopes springing high, Still I'll rise. Did you want to see me broken? Bowed head and lowered eyes? Shoulders falling down like teardrops, Weakened by my soulful cries? Does my haughtiness offend you? Don't you take it awful hard ’Cause I laugh like I've got gold mines Diggin’ in my own backyard. You may shoot me with your words, You may cut me with your eyes, You may kill me with your hatefulness, But still, like air, I’ll rise. Does my sexiness upset you? Does it come as a surprise That I dance like I've got diamonds At the meeting of my thighs? Out of the huts of history’s shame I rise Up from a past that’s rooted in pain I rise I'm a black ocean, leaping and wide, Welling and swelling I bear in the tide. Leaving behind nights of terror and fear I rise Into a daybreak that’s wondrously clear I rise Bringing the gifts that my ancestors gave, I am the dream and the hope of the slave. I rise I rise I rise. | |||
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"I think there’s genuinely humble which carries with it a certain shy confidence and there’s also some that use manipulation built on poor me/victim which can be very damaging to others. Learning your own worth takes time and sometimes hard experience. The manipulation hard done by ones, I can't be doing with The 'hard done by' can be genuine. I seriously struggle with compliments. Not because I'm fishing for more, or because I want to appear humble, but because it's built into me. From a young age, I had a mother hell bent on destroying my self esteem. It's taken a lot of love and care from my husband to be able to accept a compliment without feeling like I'm being big headed. And even then, the voice is still there, telling me it is xx It sounds like your experience made you stronger and I don’t say that lightly. You may still carry scars but thanks to your husband they are healing and not causing further pain. In fact it can give insight which can be used to help others. Thank you for sharing that X I agree with Flirt - thank you for sharing. I'm sure some days can be easier than others to fight against the voices but you are stronger than them now x Agreed Cede, I know poetry might not be everyone’s cup of tea but when I hear of those that have overcome hard knocks in life I think of this one. It’s apt for many things. Still I Rise BY MAYA ANGELOU You may write me down in history With your bitter, twisted lies, You may trod me in the very dirt But still, like dust, I'll rise. Does my sassiness upset you? Why are you beset with gloom? ’Cause I walk like I've got oil wells Pumping in my living room. Just like moons and like suns, With the certainty of tides, Just like hopes springing high, Still I'll rise. Did you want to see me broken? Bowed head and lowered eyes? Shoulders falling down like teardrops, Weakened by my soulful cries? Does my haughtiness offend you? Don't you take it awful hard ’Cause I laugh like I've got gold mines Diggin’ in my own backyard. You may shoot me with your words, You may cut me with your eyes, You may kill me with your hatefulness, But still, like air, I’ll rise. Does my sexiness upset you? Does it come as a surprise That I dance like I've got diamonds At the meeting of my thighs? Out of the huts of history’s shame I rise Up from a past that’s rooted in pain I rise I'm a black ocean, leaping and wide, Welling and swelling I bear in the tide. Leaving behind nights of terror and fear I rise Into a daybreak that’s wondrously clear I rise Bringing the gifts that my ancestors gave, I am the dream and the hope of the slave. I rise I rise I rise." I love that poem - actually bought a framed copy of it for a friend | |||
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"I think there’s genuinely humble which carries with it a certain shy confidence and there’s also some that use manipulation built on poor me/victim which can be very damaging to others. Learning your own worth takes time and sometimes hard experience. The manipulation hard done by ones, I can't be doing with The 'hard done by' can be genuine. I seriously struggle with compliments. Not because I'm fishing for more, or because I want to appear humble, but because it's built into me. From a young age, I had a mother hell bent on destroying my self esteem. It's taken a lot of love and care from my husband to be able to accept a compliment without feeling like I'm being big headed. And even then, the voice is still there, telling me it is xx It sounds like your experience made you stronger and I don’t say that lightly. You may still carry scars but thanks to your husband they are healing and not causing further pain. In fact it can give insight which can be used to help others. Thank you for sharing that X I agree with Flirt - thank you for sharing. I'm sure some days can be easier than others to fight against the voices but you are stronger than them now x Agreed Cede, I know poetry might not be everyone’s cup of tea but when I hear of those that have overcome hard knocks in life I think of this one. It’s apt for many things. Still I Rise BY MAYA ANGELOU You may write me down in history With your bitter, twisted lies, You may trod me in the very dirt But still, like dust, I'll rise. Does my sassiness upset you? Why are you beset with gloom? ’Cause I walk like I've got oil wells Pumping in my living room. Just like moons and like suns, With the certainty of tides, Just like hopes springing high, Still I'll rise. Did you want to see me broken? Bowed head and lowered eyes? Shoulders falling down like teardrops, Weakened by my soulful cries? Does my haughtiness offend you? Don't you take it awful hard ’Cause I laugh like I've got gold mines Diggin’ in my own backyard. You may shoot me with your words, You may cut me with your eyes, You may kill me with your hatefulness, But still, like air, I’ll rise. Does my sexiness upset you? Does it come as a surprise That I dance like I've got diamonds At the meeting of my thighs? Out of the huts of history’s shame I rise Up from a past that’s rooted in pain I rise I'm a black ocean, leaping and wide, Welling and swelling I bear in the tide. Leaving behind nights of terror and fear I rise Into a daybreak that’s wondrously clear I rise Bringing the gifts that my ancestors gave, I am the dream and the hope of the slave. I rise I rise I rise. I love that poem - actually bought a framed copy of it for a friend " She was a “Phenomenal Woman” | |||
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"I used to be really self-conscious about my limited sex appeal, my small penis, and my lack of stamina; but since I bought my Ferrari all is good. " | |||
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"I used to be really self-conscious about my limited sex appeal, my small penis, and my lack of stamina; but since I bought my Ferrari all is good. " A great motor is always a super personality enhancer. Lol | |||
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"I still find there is a huge chasm between being naturally modest and manipulating others by displaying self deprecation. I think those who deflect their insecurity with humour infinitely preferable to those who moan pathetically "I'm not as good as everyone else". We ALL have aspects of ourselves we wish to downplay but when I constantly see others saying "Oh, I'm really not all that" for others to jump in sycophantically to respond "Oh, you are, you are, and a bag of chips" I cringe. It's true what many say that a stroked ego is high on the list of fab priorities. For myself, I'm definitely not "all that" but I'm still bloody great! " Fecking fantastic I’d say | |||
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"I used to be really self-conscious about my limited sex appeal, my small penis, and my lack of stamina; but since I bought my Ferrari all is good. A great motor is always a super personality enhancer. Lol " Now if you'd said Mustang instead of Ferrari I might have been impressed | |||
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" For myself, I'm definitely not "all that" but I'm still bloody great! Fecking fantastic I’d say " Careful, I'm on the cusp remember! | |||
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" For myself, I'm definitely not "all that" but I'm still bloody great! Fecking fantastic I’d say Careful, I'm on the cusp remember! " The cusp of fecking fantastic and bloody great is a good place to be | |||
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" For myself, I'm definitely not "all that" but I'm still bloody great! Fecking fantastic I’d say Careful, I'm on the cusp remember! The cusp of fecking fantastic and bloody great is a good place to be " I shall second that | |||
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"I've never liked compliments especially In the company of others as I don't like being centre of attention and I feel it makes others feel less confident if they are not receiving the same compliments, so would rather not be complimented to avoid making anyone feel less of themself. If I get a compliment I tend to laugh and change subject. I compliment people who I feel might lack so that it can boost them somewhat and make them feel better about themselves because it really starts with liking yourself first. It's not appealing to me when someone who knows they are good looking fishes for compliments all the time. If I'm not feeling good or have put on weight, feel yukkie and generally not feeling myself , I tend to not go out and mingle, instead I'll give myself a kick up the arse, workout and wait till I feel good enough in myself to be comfy enough to go out and have fun . It has nothing to do with how anyone else sees me but how I feel and see myself. " Don't ever hide away from the world if you're not feeling yourself. Next time, gimme a shout and I'll take you out for a spin in my Mustang. | |||
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