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"I will follow the official government guidelines and not the opinions on fab. " I can’t imagine anyone in their right mind would follow an opinion on fabswingers  doesn’t mean it isn’t a talking point | |||
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"I will follow the official government guidelines and not the opinions on fab. I can’t imagine anyone in their right mind would follow an opinion on fabswingers doesn’t mean it isn’t a talking point "You asked for opinions. I didn't say anything about not talking about the issue. | |||
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"Personnelly i hope Scotland close all flights out & in and man the borders correctly and only allow essentual personnel in , as Scotland seems to be Adhering to what wgere meant to down than what England is doing and i wouldn't like to see iur Scottish Nhs overwhelmed after all the Hard work they have done to contain this Virus , but this is only my opinion and probably not most off Scotlands " You must live in the middle of nowhere then and have a very small social media circle because i see scottish people flaunting the rules all around me constantly I dont agree with them but don't pretend its not happening | |||
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"“Overwhelm the NHS, prove it cannot survive, begin the overseas third party privatisation” This is our view of what’s going on, just ours and we could be wrong. Over today we will all see the new slogan from the UK government, the relaxing colour scheme, less direct wording and what will probably be the relaxation of rules south of the border. Smells a bit fishy to us but the main worry is the increase of division it will no doubt cause between Scotland and our UK Neighbours. What’s your thoughts on the next few weeks? Opinions so very welcome, please no arguing, we all see things differently "I think if it was about overwhelming the nhs to sell it off, they wouldn’t have bothered with a phase 1 I agree that its probably too soon to ease off, but we don’t even know what restrictions will be lifted yet and the only “fishy” reason is because they cant financially keep going the way they are now | |||
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"So what division's do you think will be created due to Scotland having different guidelines from England?" There will absolutely be debate about scotland continuing with furlough from the uk tax pot if england are advised to go back to work , people are going go bd poorer than they have been for a long time so someone else getting a hand out is sure to cause tensions | |||
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"Wee Nicola has what's best for our nation at heart, not that rambling buffoon of a guy Boris and his big business cronies.... If we need to shut our borders to the English then so be it" No chance they will close the border. | |||
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"Aul Nicola is a clever cookie. What I think she will do is follow BOJO but maybe 1 week behind him. If Bojo opens businesses again there's no way Nicola won't follow suit as she would have a riot on her hands if she tried to keep them closed for longer than perhaps a week. But she will follow a few days or no more than 1 week after Bojo. What this does is cover her arse. If a second wave comes she can claim the uk moral high ground claiming Bojo Fucked up first and she done her best for Scotland by lifting regulation a week later than him. She is very clever at spotting opportunities like this, this is a total win win situation for her. Another certainty is the border, no chance on this planet will she close or police the border if timescales for lockdown differ. Watch this space. "While i have alot of respect for how she has handled the whole thing, for her honesty when addressing the country i am inclined to agree with what you just said Its inevitable for any country, when lockdown gets eased, numbers will go up ... by hanging on a little longer its also easy to let england go up first and when the independence debate comes back around it will be the UK would have gladly let you die but we did what we could to save you | |||
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"Aul Nicola is a clever cookie. What I think she will do is follow BOJO but maybe 1 week behind him. If Bojo opens businesses again there's no way Nicola won't follow suit as she would have a riot on her hands if she tried to keep them closed for longer than perhaps a week. But she will follow a few days or no more than 1 week after Bojo. What this does is cover her arse. If a second wave comes she can claim the uk moral high ground claiming Bojo Fucked up first and she done her best for Scotland by lifting regulation a week later than him. She is very clever at spotting opportunities like this, this is a total win win situation for her. Another certainty is the border, no chance on this planet will she close or police the border if timescales for lockdown differ. Watch this space.
While i have alot of respect for how she has handled the whole thing, for her honesty when addressing the country i am inclined to agree with what you just said
Its inevitable for any country, when lockdown gets eased, numbers will go up ... by hanging on a little longer its also easy to let england go up first and when the independence debate comes back around it will be the UK would have gladly let you die but we did what we could to save you "Although its also fair to say even if she genuinely thinks its too soon (which many do) she probably has no influence over boris to slow down I still think even if the reason wasnt political it will very much he used for political gain in future | |||
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"Wee Nicola has what's best for our nation at heart, not that rambling buffoon of a guy Boris and his big business cronies.... If we need to shut our borders to the English then so be it No chance they will close the border." The idea of border closing is sensationalism. NS has already said exactly that on Thursday. What the Scottish police in conjunction with Cumbria police as an example is to continue to stop and turn back vehicles adjudged to not have a valid reason for travel. The border will always remain open the folks using it will be policed though. | |||
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"Aul Nicola is a clever cookie. What I think she will do is follow BOJO but maybe 1 week behind him. If Bojo opens businesses again there's no way Nicola won't follow suit as she would have a riot on her hands if she tried to keep them closed for longer than perhaps a week. But she will follow a few days or no more than 1 week after Bojo. What this does is cover her arse. If a second wave comes she can claim the uk moral high ground claiming Bojo Fucked up first and she done her best for Scotland by lifting regulation a week later than him. She is very clever at spotting opportunities like this, this is a total win win situation for her. Another certainty is the border, no chance on this planet will she close or police the border if timescales for lockdown differ. Watch this space.
While i have alot of respect for how she has handled the whole thing, for her honesty when addressing the country i am inclined to agree with what you just said
Its inevitable for any country, when lockdown gets eased, numbers will go up ... by hanging on a little longer its also easy to let england go up first and when the independence debate comes back around it will be the UK would have gladly let you die but we did what we could to save you "Agree on this also, but the flip side of that is that if she was to agree with the UK Government and relax, see the second wave (if it happens) rip through the UK, she would very quickly see her support dwindle. Double edged sword, who’d be a politician. | |||
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"Aul Nicola is a clever cookie. What I think she will do is follow BOJO but maybe 1 week behind him. If Bojo opens businesses again there's no way Nicola won't follow suit as she would have a riot on her hands if she tried to keep them closed for longer than perhaps a week. But she will follow a few days or no more than 1 week after Bojo. What this does is cover her arse. If a second wave comes she can claim the uk moral high ground claiming Bojo Fucked up first and she done her best for Scotland by lifting regulation a week later than him. She is very clever at spotting opportunities like this, this is a total win win situation for her. Another certainty is the border, no chance on this planet will she close or police the border if timescales for lockdown differ. Watch this space. "i agree and thats why i think its got a bit political shes playing a clever game by keeping 1 step behind atm | |||
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"I’ll be continuing to follow the advice from the Scot Govt. NS will be giving a briefing at 3pm on BBC scotland Chanel. The “staunch” can tune into a pre recorded buffoonery briefing tonight from London. " | |||
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"Wee Nicola has what's best for our nation at heart, not that rambling buffoon of a guy Boris and his big business cronies.... If we need to shut our borders to the English then so be it No chance they will close the border." To non essential travellers I hope they do if need be | |||
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" What the Scottish police in conjunction with Cumbria police as an example is to continue to stop and turn back vehicles adjudged to not have a valid reason for travel. " Police need information before they can judge if your reason is valid or not. Any ticket would be invalid as being out is not a reason for a fine. You can only incriminate yourself by giving them your reason for being out and them judge and jury your reason then and there. Simply say "I have a valid reason for being out", NOTHING ELSE. | |||
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"We live right on the border, the day trippers are happily bringing themselves to Scotland for a change of scenery. Yet Scotland is supposed to be in lockdown for another 3 weeks. This wont end well" Folks are being turned back though. I can foresee after today that will increase. In the US they can’t close borders but can control who gets through them. Policing is devolved and as such adhere to the Scottish govt. police views are considered by the govt before any action is taken and if that scenario is unmanageable that will be taken into account also. | |||
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"Wee Nicola has what's best for our nation at heart, not that rambling buffoon of a guy Boris and his big business cronies.... If we need to shut our borders to the English then so be it No chance they will close the border. To non essential travellers I hope they do if need be" Its just a continuation of the current guidlines. If we are allowed to return to work i will need to do cross border travel as my main office is in Aberdeen. | |||
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"We live right on the border, the day trippers are happily bringing themselves to Scotland for a change of scenery. Yet Scotland is supposed to be in lockdown for another 3 weeks. This wont end well Folks are being turned back though. I can foresee after today that will increase. In the US they can’t close borders but can control who gets through them. Policing is devolved and as such adhere to the Scottish govt. police views are considered by the govt before any action is taken and if that scenario is unmanageable that will be taken into account also. " If they dont put border control in place it's pointless us been in lockdown. The amount of people who have come into town today is crazy, families of 4 & 5 coming to walk along the river t  | |||
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" What the Scottish police in conjunction with Cumbria police as an example is to continue to stop and turn back vehicles adjudged to not have a valid reason for travel. Police need information before they can judge if your reason is valid or not. Any ticket would be invalid as being out is not a reason for a fine. You can only incriminate yourself by giving them your reason for being out and them judge and jury your reason then and there. Simply say "I have a valid reason for being out", NOTHING ELSE. "The courts decide and interpret the law. The coronavirus legislation specific to scotland has and is still in place. Failure to give a valid reason is covered in that legislation. | |||
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"We live right on the border, the day trippers are happily bringing themselves to Scotland for a change of scenery. Yet Scotland is supposed to be in lockdown for another 3 weeks. This wont end well Folks are being turned back though. I can foresee after today that will increase. In the US they can’t close borders but can control who gets through them. Policing is devolved and as such adhere to the Scottish govt. police views are considered by the govt before any action is taken and if that scenario is unmanageable that will be taken into account also. If they dont put border control in place it's pointless us been in lockdown. The amount of people who have come into town today is crazy, families of 4 & 5 coming to walk along the river t "The border will be a mute point,if Bojo says people can start to move about, Nicola wll follow within a week. | |||
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"A concerning sign is that Northern Ireland and Wales both share the same stance as Nicola Sturgeon and Scotland meaning England will be the only nation in the UK to make changes. We both find that surprising and a bit telling. " Well we dont actually know what englands approach is yet ... it hasnt been announced It could be go back to work tomorrow or it could be ok you are allowed to take an extra walk per day and open a garden centre and the dumps (which wales have already done) | |||
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"A concerning sign is that Northern Ireland and Wales both share the same stance as Nicola Sturgeon and Scotland meaning England will be the only nation in the UK to make changes. We both find that surprising and a bit telling. " You can only do what your goverment asks you to do. | |||
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"A concerning sign is that Northern Ireland and Wales both share the same stance as Nicola Sturgeon and Scotland meaning England will be the only nation in the UK to make changes. We both find that surprising and a bit telling. Well we dont actually know what englands approach is yet ... it hasnt been announced It could be go back to work tomorrow or it could be ok you are allowed to take an extra walk per day and open a garden centre and the dumps (which wales have already done) " Totally agree, it’s all a bit in the air as to what will happen. The concern, on our part, is the speed at what the other three governments have taken I voice their current stances will not change. We are all really just reading between the lines. By the end of the day we will all be more aware | |||
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" The coronavirus legislation specific to scotland has and is still in place. Failure to give a valid reason is covered in that legislation. " My point berring is the police are judge and jury whether a reason is valid or not. As goodie said in a previous post, the officer said to her what she was doing was ok, by the letter of the law , he was wrong , but his interpretation was that it was OK . Can you point me in the direction as to where I don't have the right to stay silent or simply say I have a valid reason to be out. I don't want some random cop making a decision on his interpretation of the law especially when it might cost me money. Or are we all now guilty until proven innocent. | |||
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"I don’t think it’s straight forward at all and whatever the Scottish government or uk government do will be attached by people who don’t support them Sweden never locked down at all. They have double Scotland’s population but less deaths Norway did and have a really low death rate and plan to fully ease lockdown by the middle of June. I feel the uk tried to shut the stable door after the horse had bolted so the lockdown measures aren’t as effective as they could have been and infection rates will soar again. " | |||
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"A concerning sign is that Northern Ireland and Wales both share the same stance as Nicola Sturgeon and Scotland meaning England will be the only nation in the UK to make changes. We both find that surprising and a bit telling. Well we dont actually know what englands approach is yet ... it hasnt been announced It could be go back to work tomorrow or it could be ok you are allowed to take an extra walk per day and open a garden centre and the dumps (which wales have already done) Totally agree, it’s all a bit in the air as to what will happen. The concern, on our part, is the speed at what the other three governments have taken I voice their current stances will not change. We are all really just reading between the lines. By the end of the day we will all be more aware "Yeah it was totally dumb to announce there would be an announcement in 4 days time ... just left people 4 days to speculate and make their own minds up about what they would be doing | |||
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" The coronavirus legislation specific to scotland has and is still in place. Failure to give a valid reason is covered in that legislation. My point berring is the police are judge and jury whether a reason is valid or not. As goodie said in a previous post, the officer said to her what she was doing was ok, by the letter of the law , he was wrong , but his interpretation was that it was OK . Can you point me in the direction as to where I don't have the right to stay silent or simply say I have a valid reason to be out. I don't want some random cop making a decision on his interpretation of the law especially when it might cost me money. Or are we all now guilty until proven innocent. "At the risk of repeating myself continually for folks who can’t or won’t familiarise themselves with the legislation applicable to the corona virus scotland act the police interpret the act and the courts act on it. Where did someone say you can’t remain silent ? The valid reason or lack off is law as it currently stands so I’d imagine your silence would fall into the “lack off” | |||
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"If Johnson says black then Sturgeon will say white Nicola Sturgeon was starting to talk about making plans in one of these many white papers she forever goes on about for easing lockdown a couple of weeks ago but now it looks like Boris Johnson May well be announcing plans to do similar she is now dead against it. She’s playing politics while playing with people lives She had the cheek to say is going for a coffee necessary, well why is costa open, Nicola? Perhaps she could have shown some clear leadership and instructed that these establishments remained closed. Do not criticise other politicians for relaying mixed messages when you are clearly doing the exact same She’s now on twitter saying “stay at home” well I can only say I’m grateful that none of my loved ones have to “stay at home” in a Scottish care home due to the utter incompetence that the Scottish government have been culpable for in dealing with our elderly care home residents, sending suspected COVID-19 patients back to care homes without knowing their test results is nothing short of disgraceful. Sturgeon along with Freeman and everyone else in the SG who endorse these actions have blood on their hands This morning Freeman was asked about one of the many care home debacles and her reply was along the lines of I’m not sure on the updated guidance, yet it’s been published on the official website. We shouldn’t expect anything else from a woman who recently blamed care homes for the lack of PPE. The less said about her running of the project for the new sick kids in Edinburgh and the Glasgow hospital scandal the better Just remember how the SNP and it’s cult followers blamed the older generations for their failure to gain independence The pair of these clowns are so out of their depth it would be hilarious if it wasn’t so serious I can hear the moon howlers already now that someone has dared to criticise their dear leader" The UK has the worst corona deaths in Europe and your blaming NS ? If you hate scotland so much there is an open border. | |||
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"If Johnson says black then Sturgeon will say white Nicola Sturgeon was starting to talk about making plans in one of these many white papers she forever goes on about for easing lockdown a couple of weeks ago but now it looks like Boris Johnson May well be announcing plans to do similar she is now dead against it. She’s playing politics while playing with people lives She had the cheek to say is going for a coffee necessary, well why is costa open, Nicola? Perhaps she could have shown some clear leadership and instructed that these establishments remained closed. Do not criticise other politicians for relaying mixed messages when you are clearly doing the exact same She’s now on twitter saying “stay at home” well I can only say I’m grateful that none of my loved ones have to “stay at home” in a Scottish care home due to the utter incompetence that the Scottish government have been culpable for in dealing with our elderly care home residents, sending suspected COVID-19 patients back to care homes without knowing their test results is nothing short of disgraceful. Sturgeon along with Freeman and everyone else in the SG who endorse these actions have blood on their hands This morning Freeman was asked about one of the many care home debacles and her reply was along the lines of I’m not sure on the updated guidance, yet it’s been published on the official website. We shouldn’t expect anything else from a woman who recently blamed care homes for the lack of PPE. The less said about her running of the project for the new sick kids in Edinburgh and the Glasgow hospital scandal the better Just remember how the SNP and it’s cult followers blamed the older generations for their failure to gain independence The pair of these clowns are so out of their depth it would be hilarious if it wasn’t so serious I can hear the moon howlers already now that someone has dared to criticise their dear leader The UK has the worst corona deaths in Europe and your blaming NS ? If you hate scotland so much there is an open border. "I didn’t read anywhere on that where he said he hated scotland. Does he not have the same right to an opinion as anyone else without being asked to leave the country if it’s different from yours? Seems like a bigoted attitude by definition of the word | |||
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"If Johnson says black then Sturgeon will say white Nicola Sturgeon was starting to talk about making plans in one of these many white papers she forever goes on about for easing lockdown a couple of weeks ago but now it looks like Boris Johnson May well be announcing plans to do similar she is now dead against it. She’s playing politics while playing with people lives She had the cheek to say is going for a coffee necessary, well why is costa open, Nicola? Perhaps she could have shown some clear leadership and instructed that these establishments remained closed. Do not criticise other politicians for relaying mixed messages when you are clearly doing the exact same She’s now on twitter saying “stay at home” well I can only say I’m grateful that none of my loved ones have to “stay at home” in a Scottish care home due to the utter incompetence that the Scottish government have been culpable for in dealing with our elderly care home residents, sending suspected COVID-19 patients back to care homes without knowing their test results is nothing short of disgraceful. Sturgeon along with Freeman and everyone else in the SG who endorse these actions have blood on their hands This morning Freeman was asked about one of the many care home debacles and her reply was along the lines of I’m not sure on the updated guidance, yet it’s been published on the official website. We shouldn’t expect anything else from a woman who recently blamed care homes for the lack of PPE. The less said about her running of the project for the new sick kids in Edinburgh and the Glasgow hospital scandal the better Just remember how the SNP and it’s cult followers blamed the older generations for their failure to gain independence The pair of these clowns are so out of their depth it would be hilarious if it wasn’t so serious I can hear the moon howlers already now that someone has dared to criticise their dear leader The UK has the worst corona deaths in Europe and your blaming NS ? If you hate scotland so much there is an open border.
I didn’t read anywhere on that where he said he hated scotland. Does he not have the same right to an opinion as anyone else without being asked to leave the country if it’s different from yours? Seems like a bigoted attitude by definition of the word "obstinately or unreasonably attached to a belief, opinion, or faction, and intolerant towards other people's beliefs and practices. Yes indeed i felt his post veered on that line.
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"If Johnson says black then Sturgeon will say white Nicola Sturgeon was starting to talk about making plans in one of these many white papers she forever goes on about for easing lockdown a couple of weeks ago but now it looks like Boris Johnson May well be announcing plans to do similar she is now dead against it. She’s playing politics while playing with people lives She had the cheek to say is going for a coffee necessary, well why is costa open, Nicola? Perhaps she could have shown some clear leadership and instructed that these establishments remained closed. Do not criticise other politicians for relaying mixed messages when you are clearly doing the exact same She’s now on twitter saying “stay at home” well I can only say I’m grateful that none of my loved ones have to “stay at home” in a Scottish care home due to the utter incompetence that the Scottish government have been culpable for in dealing with our elderly care home residents, sending suspected COVID-19 patients back to care homes without knowing their test results is nothing short of disgraceful. Sturgeon along with Freeman and everyone else in the SG who endorse these actions have blood on their hands This morning Freeman was asked about one of the many care home debacles and her reply was along the lines of I’m not sure on the updated guidance, yet it’s been published on the official website. We shouldn’t expect anything else from a woman who recently blamed care homes for the lack of PPE. The less said about her running of the project for the new sick kids in Edinburgh and the Glasgow hospital scandal the better Just remember how the SNP and it’s cult followers blamed the older generations for their failure to gain independence The pair of these clowns are so out of their depth it would be hilarious if it wasn’t so serious I can hear the moon howlers already now that someone has dared to criticise their dear leader The UK has the worst corona deaths in Europe and your blaming NS ? If you hate scotland so much there is an open border. "Wrong. The U.K. has the worst recorded deaths in Europe. Other countries aren’t recording deaths in care homes and deaths at home etc and only recording hospital deaths but don’t let facts get in the way of your agenda Other countries i.e. Spain and Italy’s health services were crippled and had people dying on hospital floors and corridors. Some hospitals in the U.K. have been so underwhelmed they’ve even had time to rehearse and record tick tock videos in empty wards And your last sentence sums up your bigoted and xenophobic ideology. You’re no longer worth debating. You can only tell someone to leave the country as you have no coherent counter response Good day | |||
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" The coronavirus legislation specific to scotland has and is still in place. Failure to give a valid reason is covered in that legislation. My point berring is the police are judge and jury whether a reason is valid or not. As goodie said in a previous post, the officer said to her what she was doing was ok, by the letter of the law , he was wrong , but his interpretation was that it was OK . Can you point me in the direction as to where I don't have the right to stay silent or simply say I have a valid reason to be out. I don't want some random cop making a decision on his interpretation of the law especially when it might cost me money. Or are we all now guilty until proven innocent.
At the risk of repeating myself continually for folks who can’t or won’t familiarise themselves with the legislation applicable to the corona virus scotland act the police interpret the act and the courts act on it.
Where did someone say you can’t remain silent ?
The valid reason or lack off is law as it currently stands so I’d imagine your silence would fall into the “lack off”
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"If Johnson says black then Sturgeon will say white Nicola Sturgeon was starting to talk about making plans in one of these many white papers she forever goes on about for easing lockdown a couple of weeks ago but now it looks like Boris Johnson May well be announcing plans to do similar she is now dead against it. She’s playing politics while playing with people lives She had the cheek to say is going for a coffee necessary, well why is costa open, Nicola? Perhaps she could have shown some clear leadership and instructed that these establishments remained closed. Do not criticise other politicians for relaying mixed messages when you are clearly doing the exact same She’s now on twitter saying “stay at home” well I can only say I’m grateful that none of my loved ones have to “stay at home” in a Scottish care home due to the utter incompetence that the Scottish government have been culpable for in dealing with our elderly care home residents, sending suspected COVID-19 patients back to care homes without knowing their test results is nothing short of disgraceful. Sturgeon along with Freeman and everyone else in the SG who endorse these actions have blood on their hands This morning Freeman was asked about one of the many care home debacles and her reply was along the lines of I’m not sure on the updated guidance, yet it’s been published on the official website. We shouldn’t expect anything else from a woman who recently blamed care homes for the lack of PPE. The less said about her running of the project for the new sick kids in Edinburgh and the Glasgow hospital scandal the better Just remember how the SNP and it’s cult followers blamed the older generations for their failure to gain independence The pair of these clowns are so out of their depth it would be hilarious if it wasn’t so serious I can hear the moon howlers already now that someone has dared to criticise their dear leader The UK has the worst corona deaths in Europe and your blaming NS ? If you hate scotland so much there is an open border. "Where did he say he just blamed NS ??? shes on a power trip its getting so clear by the day with her ...shes rabbiting on about stay at home but allows costa etc to open up and as someone said earlier she will follow boris in a weeks time .... | |||
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" The coronavirus legislation specific to scotland has and is still in place. Failure to give a valid reason is covered in that legislation. My point berring is the police are judge and jury whether a reason is valid or not. As goodie said in a previous post, the officer said to her what she was doing was ok, by the letter of the law , he was wrong , but his interpretation was that it was OK . Can you point me in the direction as to where I don't have the right to stay silent or simply say I have a valid reason to be out. I don't want some random cop making a decision on his interpretation of the law especially when it might cost me money. Or are we all now guilty until proven innocent.
At the risk of repeating myself continually for folks who can’t or won’t familiarise themselves with the legislation applicable to the corona virus scotland act the police interpret the act and the courts act on it.
Where did someone say you can’t remain silent ?
The valid reason or lack off is law as it currently stands so I’d imagine your silence would fall into the “lack off”
I'm not trying to argue berring I'm simply asking you to show or point me to the section where my silence constitutes a lack of a valid reason, where it is covered. What section ? so i can familiarise myself as you suggest. I dont see it. For my benefit not the benefit of argument. "So you get stopped. Police ask for a valid reason. You don’t give a reply. Can you see where this is going | |||
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Where did he say he just blamed NS ??? shes on a power trip its getting so clear by the day with her ...shes rabbiting on about stay at home but allows costa etc to open up and as someone said earlier she will follow boris in a weeks time ...."It’s clear what side of the divide folks are on with posts. I’m happy to counter nonsense when I read it. Don’t even start me on Johnson, inept and in hiding for most of this. Only guy to have corona and put on 4 stone | |||
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Wrong. The U.K. has the worst recorded deaths in Europe. Other countries aren’t recording deaths in care homes and deaths at home etc and only recording hospital deaths but don’t let facts get in the way of your agenda
Other countries i.e. Spain and Italy’s health services were crippled and had people dying on hospital floors and corridors. Some hospitals in the U.K. have been so underwhelmed they’ve even had time to rehearse and record tick tock videos in empty wards
And your last sentence sums up your bigoted and xenophobic ideology. You’re no longer worth debating. You can only tell someone to leave the country as you have no coherent counter response
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Where did he say he just blamed NS ??? shes on a power trip its getting so clear by the day with her ...shes rabbiting on about stay at home but allows costa etc to open up and as someone said earlier she will follow boris in a weeks time ....
It’s clear what side of the divide folks are on with posts. I’m happy to counter nonsense when I read it.
Don’t even start me on Johnson, inept and in hiding for most of this.
Only guy to have corona and put on 4 stone "so why is it nonsense just because ppl have different views from you i dont like either of them he hasnt a clue and she is doing her usual on her power trip i dont think either are believable ...but i dont jump on ppl who agree with her ... | |||
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Where did he say he just blamed NS ??? shes on a power trip its getting so clear by the day with her ...shes rabbiting on about stay at home but allows costa etc to open up and as someone said earlier she will follow boris in a weeks time ....
It’s clear what side of the divide folks are on with posts. I’m happy to counter nonsense when I read it.
Don’t even start me on Johnson, inept and in hiding for most of this.
Only guy to have corona and put on 4 stone so why is it nonsense just because ppl have different views from you i dont like either of them he hasnt a clue and she is doing her usual on her power trip i dont think either are believable ...but i dont jump on ppl who agree with her ..."If you look at “his” post it’s littered with profanities and disrespect. His views, my views, your views. She’s Scotland’s FM it’s HER job to lead. | |||
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Where did he say he just blamed NS ??? shes on a power trip its getting so clear by the day with her ...shes rabbiting on about stay at home but allows costa etc to open up and as someone said earlier she will follow boris in a weeks time ....
It’s clear what side of the divide folks are on with posts. I’m happy to counter nonsense when I read it.
Don’t even start me on Johnson, inept and in hiding for most of this.
Only guy to have corona and put on 4 stone so why is it nonsense just because ppl have different views from you i dont like either of them he hasnt a clue and she is doing her usual on her power trip i dont think either are believable ...but i dont jump on ppl who agree with her ...
If you look at “his” post it’s littered with profanities and disrespect.
His views, my views, your views.
She’s Scotland’s FM it’s HER job to lead.
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All leaders of countries, businesses, institutions etc have difficult enough decisions to make without people’s agenda’s getting in the way. I don’t think this is the right time to be talking about divides, politics or telling someone they can leave the country if their opinion isn’t the same as yours.
"If you hate scotland so much there is an open border was what I said. Can you show me where I said anyone with a differing opinion to mines should leave? | |||
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" The coronavirus legislation specific to scotland has and is still in place. Failure to give a valid reason is covered in that legislation. My point berring is the police are judge and jury whether a reason is valid or not. As goodie said in a previous post, the officer said to her what she was doing was ok, by the letter of the law , he was wrong , but his interpretation was that it was OK . Can you point me in the direction as to where I don't have the right to stay silent or simply say I have a valid reason to be out. I don't want some random cop making a decision on his interpretation of the law especially when it might cost me money. Or are we all now guilty until proven innocent.
At the risk of repeating myself continually for folks who can’t or won’t familiarise themselves with the legislation applicable to the corona virus scotland act the police interpret the act and the courts act on it.
Where did someone say you can’t remain silent ?
The valid reason or lack off is law as it currently stands so I’d imagine your silence would fall into the “lack off”
I'm not trying to argue berring I'm simply asking you to show or point me to the section where my silence constitutes a lack of a valid reason, where it is covered. What section ? so i can familiarise myself as you suggest. I dont see it. For my benefit not the benefit of argument.
So you get stopped. Police ask for a valid reason.
You don’t give a reply. Can you see where this is going "No I can't see where it's going, . My point was the police can only interpret the law, and make judgements on the reasons you give . Those judgements are based on what we volutarily tell them. My advice is to only say "I have a valid reason to be out" Anything else means the police can decide yes or no as valid. You pointed to legislation saying I can't do that and repeated it for people unfamiliar with it. Can you plz tell me what section says I must give them an actual reason. All I'm asking. So, no I can't see where it's going , can you tell me. ? | |||
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All leaders of countries, businesses, institutions etc have difficult enough decisions to make without people’s agenda’s getting in the way. I don’t think this is the right time to be talking about divides, politics or telling someone they can leave the country if their opinion isn’t the same as yours.
If you hate scotland so much there is an open border was what I said.
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Where did he say he just blamed NS ??? shes on a power trip its getting so clear by the day with her ...shes rabbiting on about stay at home but allows costa etc to open up and as someone said earlier she will follow boris in a weeks time ....
It’s clear what side of the divide folks are on with posts. I’m happy to counter nonsense when I read it.
Don’t even start me on Johnson, inept and in hiding for most of this.
Only guy to have corona and put on 4 stone so why is it nonsense just because ppl have different views from you i dont like either of them he hasnt a clue and she is doing her usual on her power trip i dont think either are believable ...but i dont jump on ppl who agree with her ...
If you look at “his” post it’s littered with profanities and disrespect.
His views, my views, your views.
She’s Scotland’s FM it’s HER job to lead.
Her job or not we dont all have to agree with her tho do we and no need for you to say ppls views are nonsense if you dont agree ...she comes across very dictatorish to me ...thats my view "Absolutely, which would suggest she’s doing a fine job by the majority of the electorate which is what matter. | |||
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All leaders of countries, businesses, institutions etc have difficult enough decisions to make without people’s agenda’s getting in the way. I don’t think this is the right time to be talking about divides, politics or telling someone they can leave the country if their opinion isn’t the same as yours.
If you hate scotland so much there is an open border was what I said.
Can you show me where I said anyone with a differing opinion to mines should leave?
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All leaders of countries, businesses, institutions etc have difficult enough decisions to make without people’s agenda’s getting in the way. I don’t think this is the right time to be talking about divides, politics or telling someone they can leave the country if their opinion isn’t the same as yours.
If you hate scotland so much there is an open border was what I said.
Can you show me where I said anyone with a differing opinion to mines should leave?
Can you show me where he said he hated scotland?
You first "You’re mask slipped here mate. You assumed he hated Scotland as he didn’t agree with something you did. Everyone is welcome here and they have a right to an opinion. All you have to do is highlight where you read he hated it here and why you want him to leave. I think I’ll be waiting a while though | |||
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I didn’t read anywhere on that where he said he hated scotland. Does he not have the same right to an opinion as anyone else without being asked to leave the country if it’s different from yours? Seems like a bigoted attitude by definition of the word "I think they both sounded bitter and bigoted tbh, i’m a unionist and even i thought that anti snp rant was ridiculous | |||
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All leaders of countries, businesses, institutions etc have difficult enough decisions to make without people’s agenda’s getting in the way. I don’t think this is the right time to be talking about divides, politics or telling someone they can leave the country if their opinion isn’t the same as yours.
If you hate scotland so much there is an open border was what I said.
Can you show me where I said anyone with a differing opinion to mines should leave?
Can you show me where he said he hated scotland?
You first
You’re mask slipped here mate. You assumed he hated Scotland as he didn’t agree with something you did. Everyone is welcome here and they have a right to an opinion. All you have to do is highlight where you read he hated it here and why you want him to leave. I think I’ll be waiting a while though "You can’t justify your comments when asked for. Next | |||
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All leaders of countries, businesses, institutions etc have difficult enough decisions to make without people’s agenda’s getting in the way. I don’t think this is the right time to be talking about divides, politics or telling someone they can leave the country if their opinion isn’t the same as yours.
If you hate scotland so much there is an open border was what I said.
Can you show me where I said anyone with a differing opinion to mines should leave?
Can you show me where he said he hated scotland?
You first
You’re mask slipped here mate. You assumed he hated Scotland as he didn’t agree with something you did. Everyone is welcome here and they have a right to an opinion. All you have to do is highlight where you read he hated it here and why you want him to leave. I think I’ll be waiting a while though "Hey wait your turn I'm still waiting for legislation he pointed to, that we're not familiar with. | |||
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Where did he say he just blamed NS ??? shes on a power trip its getting so clear by the day with her ...shes rabbiting on about stay at home but allows costa etc to open up and as someone said earlier she will follow boris in a weeks time ....
It’s clear what side of the divide folks are on with posts. I’m happy to counter nonsense when I read it.
Don’t even start me on Johnson, inept and in hiding for most of this.
Only guy to have corona and put on 4 stone so why is it nonsense just because ppl have different views from you i dont like either of them he hasnt a clue and she is doing her usual on her power trip i dont think either are believable ...but i dont jump on ppl who agree with her ...
If you look at “his” post it’s littered with profanities and disrespect.
His views, my views, your views.
She’s Scotland’s FM it’s HER job to lead.
Her job or not we dont all have to agree with her tho do we and no need for you to say ppls views are nonsense if you dont agree ...she comes across very dictatorish to me ...thats my view
Absolutely, which would suggest she’s doing a fine job by the majority of the electorate which is what matter.
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All leaders of countries, businesses, institutions etc have difficult enough decisions to make without people’s agenda’s getting in the way. I don’t think this is the right time to be talking about divides, politics or telling someone they can leave the country if their opinion isn’t the same as yours.
If you hate scotland so much there is an open border was what I said.
Can you show me where I said anyone with a differing opinion to mines should leave?
Can you show me where he said he hated scotland?
You first
You’re mask slipped here mate. You assumed he hated Scotland as he didn’t agree with something you did. Everyone is welcome here and they have a right to an opinion. All you have to do is highlight where you read he hated it here and why you want him to leave. I think I’ll be waiting a while though
Hey wait your turn I'm still waiting for legislation he pointed to, that we're not familiar with. "You know where to look. I’ve put link up a few times. Google scot gov corona virus legislation Mind the furore with the dugs ? Same act | |||
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"If Johnson says black then Sturgeon will say white Nicola Sturgeon was starting to talk about making plans in one of these many white papers she forever goes on about for easing lockdown a couple of weeks ago but now it looks like Boris Johnson May well be announcing plans to do similar she is now dead against it. She’s playing politics while playing with people lives She had the cheek to say is going for a coffee necessary, well why is costa open, Nicola? Perhaps she could have shown some clear leadership and instructed that these establishments remained closed. Do not criticise other politicians for relaying mixed messages when you are clearly doing the exact same She’s now on twitter saying “stay at home” well I can only say I’m grateful that none of my loved ones have to “stay at home” in a Scottish care home due to the utter incompetence that the Scottish government have been culpable for in dealing with our elderly care home residents, sending suspected COVID-19 patients back to care homes without knowing their test results is nothing short of disgraceful. Sturgeon along with Freeman and everyone else in the SG who endorse these actions have blood on their hands This morning Freeman was asked about one of the many care home debacles and her reply was along the lines of I’m not sure on the updated guidance, yet it’s been published on the official website. We shouldn’t expect anything else from a woman who recently blamed care homes for the lack of PPE. The less said about her running of the project for the new sick kids in Edinburgh and the Glasgow hospital scandal the better Just remember how the SNP and it’s cult followers blamed the older generations for their failure to gain independence The pair of these clowns are so out of their depth it would be hilarious if it wasn’t so serious I can hear the moon howlers already now that someone has dared to criticise their dear leader The UK has the worst corona deaths in Europe and your blaming NS ? If you hate scotland so much there is an open border.
Where did he say he just blamed NS ??? shes on a power trip its getting so clear by the day with her ...shes rabbiting on about stay at home but allows costa etc to open up and as someone said earlier she will follow boris in a weeks time ....
It’s clear what side of the divide folks are on with posts. I’m happy to counter nonsense when I read it.
Don’t even start me on Johnson, inept and in hiding for most of this.
Only guy to have corona and put on 4 stone so why is it nonsense just because ppl have different views from you i dont like either of them he hasnt a clue and she is doing her usual on her power trip i dont think either are believable ...but i dont jump on ppl who agree with her ...
If you look at “his” post it’s littered with profanities and disrespect.
His views, my views, your views.
She’s Scotland’s FM it’s HER job to lead.
Her job or not we dont all have to agree with her tho do we and no need for you to say ppls views are nonsense if you dont agree ...she comes across very dictatorish to me ...thats my view
Absolutely, which would suggest she’s doing a fine job by the majority of the electorate which is what matter.
but still no excuse for some of your comments refering to others as nonsense ..healthy adults debates ... yes!!! But seems you cant "I don’t expect you or anyone to agree with my views. I’ll certainly not lose any sleep over the lack of debating skills from folks on a swingers site | |||
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"If Johnson says black then Sturgeon will say white Nicola Sturgeon was starting to talk about making plans in one of these many white papers she forever goes on about for easing lockdown a couple of weeks ago but now it looks like Boris Johnson May well be announcing plans to do similar she is now dead against it. She’s playing politics while playing with people lives She had the cheek to say is going for a coffee necessary, well why is costa open, Nicola? Perhaps she could have shown some clear leadership and instructed that these establishments remained closed. Do not criticise other politicians for relaying mixed messages when you are clearly doing the exact same She’s now on twitter saying “stay at home” well I can only say I’m grateful that none of my loved ones have to “stay at home” in a Scottish care home due to the utter incompetence that the Scottish government have been culpable for in dealing with our elderly care home residents, sending suspected COVID-19 patients back to care homes without knowing their test results is nothing short of disgraceful. Sturgeon along with Freeman and everyone else in the SG who endorse these actions have blood on their hands This morning Freeman was asked about one of the many care home debacles and her reply was along the lines of I’m not sure on the updated guidance, yet it’s been published on the official website. We shouldn’t expect anything else from a woman who recently blamed care homes for the lack of PPE. The less said about her running of the project for the new sick kids in Edinburgh and the Glasgow hospital scandal the better Just remember how the SNP and it’s cult followers blamed the older generations for their failure to gain independence The pair of these clowns are so out of their depth it would be hilarious if it wasn’t so serious I can hear the moon howlers already now that someone has dared to criticise their dear leader The UK has the worst corona deaths in Europe and your blaming NS ? If you hate scotland so much there is an open border.
Where did he say he just blamed NS ??? shes on a power trip its getting so clear by the day with her ...shes rabbiting on about stay at home but allows costa etc to open up and as someone said earlier she will follow boris in a weeks time ....
It’s clear what side of the divide folks are on with posts. I’m happy to counter nonsense when I read it.
Don’t even start me on Johnson, inept and in hiding for most of this.
Only guy to have corona and put on 4 stone so why is it nonsense just because ppl have different views from you i dont like either of them he hasnt a clue and she is doing her usual on her power trip i dont think either are believable ...but i dont jump on ppl who agree with her ...
If you look at “his” post it’s littered with profanities and disrespect.
His views, my views, your views.
She’s Scotland’s FM it’s HER job to lead.
Her job or not we dont all have to agree with her tho do we and no need for you to say ppls views are nonsense if you dont agree ...she comes across very dictatorish to me ...thats my view
Absolutely, which would suggest she’s doing a fine job by the majority of the electorate which is what matter.
but still no excuse for some of your comments refering to others as nonsense ..healthy adults debates ... yes!!! But seems you cant
I don’t expect you or anyone to agree with my views. I’ll certainly not lose any sleep over the lack of debating skills from folks on a swingers site "Nor i but least i dont disrespect others views and you seem to be the only 1 on the thread who has no debating skills ... | |||
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"If Johnson says black then Sturgeon will say white Nicola Sturgeon was starting to talk about making plans in one of these many white papers she forever goes on about for easing lockdown a couple of weeks ago but now it looks like Boris Johnson May well be announcing plans to do similar she is now dead against it. She’s playing politics while playing with people lives She had the cheek to say is going for a coffee necessary, well why is costa open, Nicola? Perhaps she could have shown some clear leadership and instructed that these establishments remained closed. Do not criticise other politicians for relaying mixed messages when you are clearly doing the exact same She’s now on twitter saying “stay at home” well I can only say I’m grateful that none of my loved ones have to “stay at home” in a Scottish care home due to the utter incompetence that the Scottish government have been culpable for in dealing with our elderly care home residents, sending suspected COVID-19 patients back to care homes without knowing their test results is nothing short of disgraceful. Sturgeon along with Freeman and everyone else in the SG who endorse these actions have blood on their hands This morning Freeman was asked about one of the many care home debacles and her reply was along the lines of I’m not sure on the updated guidance, yet it’s been published on the official website. We shouldn’t expect anything else from a woman who recently blamed care homes for the lack of PPE. The less said about her running of the project for the new sick kids in Edinburgh and the Glasgow hospital scandal the better Just remember how the SNP and it’s cult followers blamed the older generations for their failure to gain independence The pair of these clowns are so out of their depth it would be hilarious if it wasn’t so serious I can hear the moon howlers already now that someone has dared to criticise their dear leader The UK has the worst corona deaths in Europe and your blaming NS ? If you hate scotland so much there is an open border.
Where did he say he just blamed NS ??? shes on a power trip its getting so clear by the day with her ...shes rabbiting on about stay at home but allows costa etc to open up and as someone said earlier she will follow boris in a weeks time ....
It’s clear what side of the divide folks are on with posts. I’m happy to counter nonsense when I read it.
Don’t even start me on Johnson, inept and in hiding for most of this.
Only guy to have corona and put on 4 stone so why is it nonsense just because ppl have different views from you i dont like either of them he hasnt a clue and she is doing her usual on her power trip i dont think either are believable ...but i dont jump on ppl who agree with her ...
If you look at “his” post it’s littered with profanities and disrespect.
His views, my views, your views.
She’s Scotland’s FM it’s HER job to lead.
Her job or not we dont all have to agree with her tho do we and no need for you to say ppls views are nonsense if you dont agree ...she comes across very dictatorish to me ...thats my view
Absolutely, which would suggest she’s doing a fine job by the majority of the electorate which is what matter.
but still no excuse for some of your comments refering to others as nonsense ..healthy adults debates ... yes!!! But seems you cant
I don’t expect you or anyone to agree with my views. I’ll certainly not lose any sleep over the lack of debating skills from folks on a swingers site
Nor i but least i dont disrespect others views and you seem to be the only 1 on the thread who has no debating skills ..."I have a degree in politics I’m only toning it down so the less astute can join in, glad you could make it | |||
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"If Johnson says black then Sturgeon will say white Nicola Sturgeon was starting to talk about making plans in one of these many white papers she forever goes on about for easing lockdown a couple of weeks ago but now it looks like Boris Johnson May well be announcing plans to do similar she is now dead against it. She’s playing politics while playing with people lives She had the cheek to say is going for a coffee necessary, well why is costa open, Nicola? Perhaps she could have shown some clear leadership and instructed that these establishments remained closed. Do not criticise other politicians for relaying mixed messages when you are clearly doing the exact same She’s now on twitter saying “stay at home” well I can only say I’m grateful that none of my loved ones have to “stay at home” in a Scottish care home due to the utter incompetence that the Scottish government have been culpable for in dealing with our elderly care home residents, sending suspected COVID-19 patients back to care homes without knowing their test results is nothing short of disgraceful. Sturgeon along with Freeman and everyone else in the SG who endorse these actions have blood on their hands This morning Freeman was asked about one of the many care home debacles and her reply was along the lines of I’m not sure on the updated guidance, yet it’s been published on the official website. We shouldn’t expect anything else from a woman who recently blamed care homes for the lack of PPE. The less said about her running of the project for the new sick kids in Edinburgh and the Glasgow hospital scandal the better Just remember how the SNP and it’s cult followers blamed the older generations for their failure to gain independence The pair of these clowns are so out of their depth it would be hilarious if it wasn’t so serious I can hear the moon howlers already now that someone has dared to criticise their dear leader The UK has the worst corona deaths in Europe and your blaming NS ? If you hate scotland so much there is an open border.
Where did he say he just blamed NS ??? shes on a power trip its getting so clear by the day with her ...shes rabbiting on about stay at home but allows costa etc to open up and as someone said earlier she will follow boris in a weeks time ....
It’s clear what side of the divide folks are on with posts. I’m happy to counter nonsense when I read it.
Don’t even start me on Johnson, inept and in hiding for most of this.
Only guy to have corona and put on 4 stone so why is it nonsense just because ppl have different views from you i dont like either of them he hasnt a clue and she is doing her usual on her power trip i dont think either are believable ...but i dont jump on ppl who agree with her ...
If you look at “his” post it’s littered with profanities and disrespect.
His views, my views, your views.
She’s Scotland’s FM it’s HER job to lead.
Her job or not we dont all have to agree with her tho do we and no need for you to say ppls views are nonsense if you dont agree ...she comes across very dictatorish to me ...thats my view
Absolutely, which would suggest she’s doing a fine job by the majority of the electorate which is what matter.
but still no excuse for some of your comments refering to others as nonsense ..healthy adults debates ... yes!!! But seems you cant
I don’t expect you or anyone to agree with my views. I’ll certainly not lose any sleep over the lack of debating skills from folks on a swingers site
Nor i but least i dont disrespect others views and you seem to be the only 1 on the thread who has no debating skills ...
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"If Johnson says black then Sturgeon will say white Nicola Sturgeon was starting to talk about making plans in one of these many white papers she forever goes on about for easing lockdown a couple of weeks ago but now it looks like Boris Johnson May well be announcing plans to do similar she is now dead against it. She’s playing politics while playing with people lives She had the cheek to say is going for a coffee necessary, well why is costa open, Nicola? Perhaps she could have shown some clear leadership and instructed that these establishments remained closed. Do not criticise other politicians for relaying mixed messages when you are clearly doing the exact same She’s now on twitter saying “stay at home” well I can only say I’m grateful that none of my loved ones have to “stay at home” in a Scottish care home due to the utter incompetence that the Scottish government have been culpable for in dealing with our elderly care home residents, sending suspected COVID-19 patients back to care homes without knowing their test results is nothing short of disgraceful. Sturgeon along with Freeman and everyone else in the SG who endorse these actions have blood on their hands This morning Freeman was asked about one of the many care home debacles and her reply was along the lines of I’m not sure on the updated guidance, yet it’s been published on the official website. We shouldn’t expect anything else from a woman who recently blamed care homes for the lack of PPE. The less said about her running of the project for the new sick kids in Edinburgh and the Glasgow hospital scandal the better Just remember how the SNP and it’s cult followers blamed the older generations for their failure to gain independence The pair of these clowns are so out of their depth it would be hilarious if it wasn’t so serious I can hear the moon howlers already now that someone has dared to criticise their dear leader The UK has the worst corona deaths in Europe and your blaming NS ? If you hate scotland so much there is an open border.
Where did he say he just blamed NS ??? shes on a power trip its getting so clear by the day with her ...shes rabbiting on about stay at home but allows costa etc to open up and as someone said earlier she will follow boris in a weeks time ....
It’s clear what side of the divide folks are on with posts. I’m happy to counter nonsense when I read it.
Don’t even start me on Johnson, inept and in hiding for most of this.
Only guy to have corona and put on 4 stone so why is it nonsense just because ppl have different views from you i dont like either of them he hasnt a clue and she is doing her usual on her power trip i dont think either are believable ...but i dont jump on ppl who agree with her ...
If you look at “his” post it’s littered with profanities and disrespect.
His views, my views, your views.
She’s Scotland’s FM it’s HER job to lead.
Her job or not we dont all have to agree with her tho do we and no need for you to say ppls views are nonsense if you dont agree ...she comes across very dictatorish to me ...thats my view
Absolutely, which would suggest she’s doing a fine job by the majority of the electorate which is what matter.
but still no excuse for some of your comments refering to others as nonsense ..healthy adults debates ... yes!!! But seems you cant
I don’t expect you or anyone to agree with my views. I’ll certainly not lose any sleep over the lack of debating skills from folks on a swingers site
Nor i but least i dont disrespect others views and you seem to be the only 1 on the thread who has no debating skills ...
I have a degree in politics I’m only toning it down so the less astute can join in, glad you could make it
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"It’s clear what side of the divide folks are on with posts. I’m happy to counter nonsense when I read it. Don’t even start me on Johnson, inept and in hiding for most of this. Only guy to have corona and put on 4 stone
All leaders of countries, businesses, institutions etc have difficult enough decisions to make without people’s agenda’s getting in the way. I don’t think this is the right time to be talking about divides, politics or telling someone they can leave the country if their opinion isn’t the same as yours.
If you hate scotland so much there is an open border was what I said.
Can you show me where I said anyone with a differing opinion to mines should leave?
Can you show me where he said he hated scotland?
You first
You’re mask slipped here mate. You assumed he hated Scotland as he didn’t agree with something you did. Everyone is welcome here and they have a right to an opinion. All you have to do is highlight where you read he hated it here and why you want him to leave. I think I’ll be waiting a while though
Hey wait your turn I'm still waiting for legislation he pointed to, that we're not familiar with.
You know where to look. I’ve put link up a few times. Google scot gov corona virus legislation
Mind the furore with the dugs ? Same act "I have looked, I don't see where it says my silence will be contrued as not having a valid reason. It says I MUST HAVE a valid reason to be out But it dosnt say I am obliged to tell an officer when asked. They can't fine someone for simply being outside. Hopefully you will understand the difference. Giving a reason is what will get you the fine if the plod deems it unnecessary. Not giving a reason means he can only assume you don't have a valid reason to issue that fine, no court in the world can enforce an assumption. | |||
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"If Johnson says black then Sturgeon will say white Nicola Sturgeon was starting to talk about making plans in one of these many white papers she forever goes on about for easing lockdown a couple of weeks ago but now it looks like Boris Johnson May well be announcing plans to do similar she is now dead against it. She’s playing politics while playing with people lives She had the cheek to say is going for a coffee necessary, well why is costa open, Nicola? Perhaps she could have shown some clear leadership and instructed that these establishments remained closed. Do not criticise other politicians for relaying mixed messages when you are clearly doing the exact same She’s now on twitter saying “stay at home” well I can only say I’m grateful that none of my loved ones have to “stay at home” in a Scottish care home due to the utter incompetence that the Scottish government have been culpable for in dealing with our elderly care home residents, sending suspected COVID-19 patients back to care homes without knowing their test results is nothing short of disgraceful. Sturgeon along with Freeman and everyone else in the SG who endorse these actions have blood on their hands This morning Freeman was asked about one of the many care home debacles and her reply was along the lines of I’m not sure on the updated guidance, yet it’s been published on the official website. We shouldn’t expect anything else from a woman who recently blamed care homes for the lack of PPE. The less said about her running of the project for the new sick kids in Edinburgh and the Glasgow hospital scandal the better Just remember how the SNP and it’s cult followers blamed the older generations for their failure to gain independence The pair of these clowns are so out of their depth it would be hilarious if it wasn’t so serious I can hear the moon howlers already now that someone has dared to criticise their dear leader The UK has the worst corona deaths in Europe and your blaming NS ? If you hate scotland so much there is an open border.
Where did he say he just blamed NS ??? shes on a power trip its getting so clear by the day with her ...shes rabbiting on about stay at home but allows costa etc to open up and as someone said earlier she will follow boris in a weeks time ....
It’s clear what side of the divide folks are on with posts. I’m happy to counter nonsense when I read it.
Don’t even start me on Johnson, inept and in hiding for most of this.
Only guy to have corona and put on 4 stone so why is it nonsense just because ppl have different views from you i dont like either of them he hasnt a clue and she is doing her usual on her power trip i dont think either are believable ...but i dont jump on ppl who agree with her ...
If you look at “his” post it’s littered with profanities and disrespect.
His views, my views, your views.
She’s Scotland’s FM it’s HER job to lead.
Her job or not we dont all have to agree with her tho do we and no need for you to say ppls views are nonsense if you dont agree ...she comes across very dictatorish to me ...thats my view
Absolutely, which would suggest she’s doing a fine job by the majority of the electorate which is what matter.
but still no excuse for some of your comments refering to others as nonsense ..healthy adults debates ... yes!!! But seems you cant
I don’t expect you or anyone to agree with my views. I’ll certainly not lose any sleep over the lack of debating skills from folks on a swingers site
Nor i but least i dont disrespect others views and you seem to be the only 1 on the thread who has no debating skills ...
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"no court in the world can enforce an assumption. So there is no people locked up in the world for no reason ? " Still waiting for that legislation you claimed we are not familiar with, changing the subject won't change the fact you make comments to show your superior but when called out on them your not very forthcoming with the answers. | |||
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"no court in the world can enforce an assumption. So there is no people locked up in the world for no reason ? " The supposed gay men of Uganda are being beaten and falsely imprisoned. Going by Sky news | |||
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"no court in the world can enforce an assumption. So there is no people locked up in the world for no reason ? The supposed gay men of Uganda are being beaten and falsely imprisoned. Going by Sky news" Exactly the reasoning behind my questioning of his post.
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"no court in the world can enforce an assumption. So there is no people locked up in the world for no reason ? The supposed gay men of Uganda are being beaten and falsely imprisoned. Going by Sky news Exactly the reasoning behind my questioning of his post.
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"If Johnson says black then Sturgeon will say white Nicola Sturgeon was starting to talk about making plans in one of these many white papers she forever goes on about for easing lockdown a couple of weeks ago but now it looks like Boris Johnson May well be announcing plans to do similar she is now dead against it. She’s playing politics while playing with people lives She had the cheek to say is going for a coffee necessary, well why is costa open, Nicola? Perhaps she could have shown some clear leadership and instructed that these establishments remained closed. Do not criticise other politicians for relaying mixed messages when you are clearly doing the exact same She’s now on twitter saying “stay at home” well I can only say I’m grateful that none of my loved ones have to “stay at home” in a Scottish care home due to the utter incompetence that the Scottish government have been culpable for in dealing with our elderly care home residents, sending suspected COVID-19 patients back to care homes without knowing their test results is nothing short of disgraceful. Sturgeon along with Freeman and everyone else in the SG who endorse these actions have blood on their hands This morning Freeman was asked about one of the many care home debacles and her reply was along the lines of I’m not sure on the updated guidance, yet it’s been published on the official website. We shouldn’t expect anything else from a woman who recently blamed care homes for the lack of PPE. The less said about her running of the project for the new sick kids in Edinburgh and the Glasgow hospital scandal the better Just remember how the SNP and it’s cult followers blamed the older generations for their failure to gain independence The pair of these clowns are so out of their depth it would be hilarious if it wasn’t so serious I can hear the moon howlers already now that someone has dared to criticise their dear leader The UK has the worst corona deaths in Europe and your blaming NS ? If you hate scotland so much there is an open border.
Where did he say he just blamed NS ??? shes on a power trip its getting so clear by the day with her ...shes rabbiting on about stay at home but allows costa etc to open up and as someone said earlier she will follow boris in a weeks time ....
It’s clear what side of the divide folks are on with posts. I’m happy to counter nonsense when I read it.
Don’t even start me on Johnson, inept and in hiding for most of this.
Only guy to have corona and put on 4 stone so why is it nonsense just because ppl have different views from you i dont like either of them he hasnt a clue and she is doing her usual on her power trip i dont think either are believable ...but i dont jump on ppl who agree with her ...
If you look at “his” post it’s littered with profanities and disrespect.
His views, my views, your views.
She’s Scotland’s FM it’s HER job to lead.
Her job or not we dont all have to agree with her tho do we and no need for you to say ppls views are nonsense if you dont agree ...she comes across very dictatorish to me ...thats my view
Absolutely, which would suggest she’s doing a fine job by the majority of the electorate which is what matter.
but still no excuse for some of your comments refering to others as nonsense ..healthy adults debates ... yes!!! But seems you cant
I don’t expect you or anyone to agree with my views. I’ll certainly not lose any sleep over the lack of debating skills from folks on a swingers site
Nor i but least i dont disrespect others views and you seem to be the only 1 on the thread who has no debating skills ...
I have a degree in politics I’m only toning it down so the less astute can join in, glad you could make it
Ill refrain from actually saying what i think of that comment...arrogance is not a goot trait to show "comment...arrogance is not a goot trait to show " I’ve found that most of the SNP followers and anti English and Westminster people seem to have a superiority complex. A superiority complex in a similar vein in which that comment is loaded with Best ignored | |||
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"I'm not anti english but I am anti Westminster but il be the 1st to say I'm superior to no one.and no one should ever think they are! I'm not a sheep tho and can have opinions of my own. SNP supporters are not anti english contrary what others may think "I think you’ll find I said most, but feel free to play the victim if you may I should maybe have clarified and said most I’ve encountered in everyday life and on social media platforms. The anti English sentiment is rife within these individuals | |||
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I didn’t read anywhere on that where he said he hated scotland. Does he not have the same right to an opinion as anyone else without being asked to leave the country if it’s different from yours? Seems like a bigoted attitude by definition of the word
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I didn’t read anywhere on that where he said he hated scotland. Does he not have the same right to an opinion as anyone else without being asked to leave the country if it’s different from yours? Seems like a bigoted attitude by definition of the word
I think they both sounded bitter and bigoted tbh, i’m a unionist and even i thought that anti snp rant was ridiculous "I have made clear my concerns and highlighted the failings of the SNP led Scottish government during this pandemic. This is however being treated as an snp bad anti snp rant though If it was labour, conservatives or the Monster Raving Loony party who had handled any of my highlighted concerns with the same incompetence then I would have posted the same post | |||
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"To get back on track the NHS is envied by many countries but it is showing signs of not fit for purpose. Do I think this is an attempt to privatise it no a bit like insurance companys it's an act of God......(or maybe an accident at a viral investigation centre)" I have been let down many times from the incompetence of the NHS they even failed to diagnose 2 separate fractures in my spine So glad I pay for private medical insurance, the NHS has missed many important things with me. Thing is, many of the doctors work for both, perhaps when private they "Stay Alert" more. | |||
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"Wee Nicola has what's best for our nation at heart, not that rambling buffoon of a guy Boris and his big business cronies.... If we need to shut our borders to the English then so be it" Alot of people in the care sector will disagree. Nicola is good at talking about what she planned to do but was far too late in putting things in place putting many at risk. | |||
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How do you source quote personal experience "He’s heard the NHS is being sold off. I asked the source. Pretty simple question really. | |||
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I think we need something stronger ... bleach? "I’ll buy yeah a pint once this is over | |||
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I think we need something stronger ... bleach?
I’ll buy yeah a pint once this is over "Beer not bleach ! | |||
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"Right but that cannot mean all! That's like saying every tory voter is a fekn idiot..oh wait "By your logic anytime an opinion poll for independence says that YES is in the lead it’s completely irrelevant as only a small percentage of the electorate has been asked their opinion | |||
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"Well it’s quite simple really. I would have thought someone with a degree in politics would have been able to figure it out For decades come election time people constantly hear from the other parties that the conservatives are going to sell the nhs off. Whether they hear it from media outlets with a specific agenda, door to door canvassers, from candidates on tv debates, interviews and social media or whether it’s from members of the public just relaying off mis-information For someone with a degree in politics who has toned it down so us simpletons can engage I’m surprised even you couldn’t decipher that" Simply asked your source. You’ve provided nothing to debate other than jacks dug who’s a pal of a pal down the pub said that... Misinformation personified | |||
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"Well it’s quite simple really. I would have thought someone with a degree in politics would have been able to figure it out For decades come election time people constantly hear from the other parties that the conservatives are going to sell the nhs off. Whether they hear it from media outlets with a specific agenda, door to door canvassers, from candidates on tv debates, interviews and social media or whether it’s from members of the public just relaying off mis-information For someone with a degree in politics who has toned it down so us simpletons can engage I’m surprised even you couldn’t decipher that Simply asked your source. You’ve provided nothing to debate other than jacks dug who’s a pal of a pal down the pub said that... Misinformation personified "Try researching any election campaign from conservative opposition for years gone by. I’m sure someone with a degree in politics will have such information readily available | |||
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"Well it’s quite simple really. I would have thought someone with a degree in politics would have been able to figure it out For decades come election time people constantly hear from the other parties that the conservatives are going to sell the nhs off. Whether they hear it from media outlets with a specific agenda, door to door canvassers, from candidates on tv debates, interviews and social media or whether it’s from members of the public just relaying off mis-information For someone with a degree in politics who has toned it down so us simpletons can engage I’m surprised even you couldn’t decipher that Simply asked your source. You’ve provided nothing to debate other than jacks dug who’s a pal of a pal down the pub said that... Misinformation personified
Try researching any election campaign from conservative opposition for years gone by. I’m sure someone with a degree in politics will have such information readily available "Try giving me an up to date source that the NHS is being SOLD off. It’s filled under BS to save you looking. Your sounding bitter regarding my academics. Strive and thrive | |||
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"Well it’s quite simple really. I would have thought someone with a degree in politics would have been able to figure it out For decades come election time people constantly hear from the other parties that the conservatives are going to sell the nhs off. Whether they hear it from media outlets with a specific agenda, door to door canvassers, from candidates on tv debates, interviews and social media or whether it’s from members of the public just relaying off mis-information For someone with a degree in politics who has toned it down so us simpletons can engage I’m surprised even you couldn’t decipher that Simply asked your source. You’ve provided nothing to debate other than jacks dug who’s a pal of a pal down the pub said that... Misinformation personified
Try researching any election campaign from conservative opposition for years gone by. I’m sure someone with a degree in politics will have such information readily available
Try giving me an up to date source that the NHS is being SOLD off. It’s filled under BS to save you looking.
Your sounding bitter regarding my academics.
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By your logic anytime an opinion poll for independence says that YES is in the lead it’s completely irrelevant as only a small percentage of the electorate has been asked their opinion "but in your words "most'SNP voters are anti english? Isnt that the same when you dont know all? Anyway going round in circles clearly we see things TOTALLY different. | |||
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Try researching any election campaign from conservative opposition for years gone by. I’m sure someone with a degree in politics will have such information readily available
Try giving me an up to date source that the NHS is being SOLD off. It’s filled under BS to save you looking.
Your sounding bitter regarding my academics.
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Are you not both arguing the same point here? ??
People claiming the nhs is being sold off doesn't really mean its being sold off? "Debating ! Fuck knows apparently the NHS is being sold off. | |||
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By your logic anytime an opinion poll for independence says that YES is in the lead it’s completely irrelevant as only a small percentage of the electorate has been asked their opinion but in your words "most'SNP voters are anti english? Isnt that the same when you dont know all?
Anyway going round in circles clearly we see things TOTALLY different.
"I’ve been big enough to admit my failings in not being clear enough in a couple of my posts which it seems you’ve ignored and are arguing for arguing a sake. It seems other posters can’t admit theirs and are left flogging a dead horse. Can Nicola Sturgeon do likewise in relation to her handling of this pandemic? Can her supporters do likewise or will just blindly follow suit. | |||
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"Well it’s quite simple really. I would have thought someone with a degree in politics would have been able to figure it out For decades come election time people constantly hear from the other parties that the conservatives are going to sell the nhs off. Whether they hear it from media outlets with a specific agenda, door to door canvassers, from candidates on tv debates, interviews and social media or whether it’s from members of the public just relaying off mis-information For someone with a degree in politics who has toned it down so us simpletons can engage I’m surprised even you couldn’t decipher that Simply asked your source. You’ve provided nothing to debate other than jacks dug who’s a pal of a pal down the pub said that... Misinformation personified
Try researching any election campaign from conservative opposition for years gone by. I’m sure someone with a degree in politics will have such information readily available
Try giving me an up to date source that the NHS is being SOLD off. It’s filled under BS to save you looking.
Your sounding bitter regarding my academics.
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Are you not both arguing the same point here? ??
People claiming the nhs is being sold off doesn't really mean its being sold off?
Debating ! Fuck knows apparently the NHS is being sold off. "With the greatest of respect to someone, let alone someone with a degree in politics, but are you really that dense or are you just at the wind up? It’s been argued for decades that the NHS would be sold off and it’s never happened and it won’t happen It’s not a difficult concept to get ones head around. You asked for a source, I told you any election campaign from conservative opposition from years gone by. | |||
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Try researching any election campaign from conservative opposition for years gone by. I’m sure someone with a degree in politics will have such information readily available
Try giving me an up to date source that the NHS is being SOLD off. It’s filled under BS to save you looking.
Your sounding bitter regarding my academics.
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Are you not both arguing the same point here? ??
People claiming the nhs is being sold off doesn't really mean its being sold off?
Debating ! Fuck knows apparently the NHS is being sold off.
With the greatest of respect to someone, let alone someone with a degree in politics, but are you really that dense or are you just at the wind up?
It’s been argued for decades that the NHS would be sold off and it’s never happened and it won’t happen
It’s not a difficult concept to get ones head around. You asked for a source, I told you any election campaign from conservative opposition from years gone by."Na not buying it. No source = BS | |||
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Try researching any election campaign from conservative opposition for years gone by. I’m sure someone with a degree in politics will have such information readily available
Try giving me an up to date source that the NHS is being SOLD off. It’s filled under BS to save you looking.
Your sounding bitter regarding my academics.
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Are you not both arguing the same point here? ??
People claiming the nhs is being sold off doesn't really mean its being sold off?
Debating ! Fuck knows apparently the NHS is being sold off.
With the greatest of respect to someone, let alone someone with a degree in politics, but are you really that dense or are you just at the wind up?
It’s been argued for decades that the NHS would be sold off and it’s never happened and it won’t happen
It’s not a difficult concept to get ones head around. You asked for a source, I told you any election campaign from conservative opposition from years gone by.
Na not buying it. No source = BS "I think you are being purposefully obtuse, rumours of the nhs being sold off are in the media all the time, it doesn’t matter if its a reputable source or not, the impression that its an issue is being given to the public and wether you want to use the word arguing or debating, the irony is you are both making the same point that rumour or not , its not actually being sold off You are just both so desperate not to concede to the other that you cant see for once you are on the same side of this | |||
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Try researching any election campaign from conservative opposition for years gone by. I’m sure someone with a degree in politics will have such information readily available
Try giving me an up to date source that the NHS is being SOLD off. It’s filled under BS to save you looking.
Your sounding bitter regarding my academics.
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Are you not both arguing the same point here? ??
People claiming the nhs is being sold off doesn't really mean its being sold off?
Debating ! Fuck knows apparently the NHS is being sold off.
With the greatest of respect to someone, let alone someone with a degree in politics, but are you really that dense or are you just at the wind up?
It’s been argued for decades that the NHS would be sold off and it’s never happened and it won’t happen
It’s not a difficult concept to get ones head around. You asked for a source, I told you any election campaign from conservative opposition from years gone by.
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"Personnelly i hope Scotland close all flights out & in and man the borders correctly and only allow essentual personnel in , as Scotland seems to be Adhering to what wgere meant to down than what England is doing and i wouldn't like to see iur Scottish Nhs overwhelmed after all the Hard work they have done to contain this Virus , but this is only my opinion and probably not most off Scotlands You must live in the middle of nowhere then and have a very small social media circle because i see scottish people flaunting the rules all around me constantly I dont agree with them but don't pretend its not happening " 100% this Scottish people are no different to those elsewhere. There are many many people flaunting the rules both here and elsewhere. | |||
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The contrast between UK PM Boris Johnson "state of the nation" pre recorded address, read from a monitor, without questions.. and that of FM Nicola Sturgeon giving a detailed briefing and responding honestly to media questions could not be more stark....."Shes just saying exactly what I said what she would say , if she needs to leave current lockdown criteria a few days longer than the rest of uk then that's what she will do lmao. That's pure politics, she can say she stayed in lockdown longer so she's covered her ass if it goes tits up. Nothing said by bojo or NS is a surprise. Obviously restrictions will need slowly eased at least BOJO is trying to give timescales for the public . NS is saying it will be when she says so. That's not a leader in my opinion, that's someone playing a game. Whatever Bojo says , add 1 week to scotland's timescale. Simple !! | |||
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The contrast between UK PM Boris Johnson "state of the nation" pre recorded address, read from a monitor, without questions.. and that of FM Nicola Sturgeon giving a detailed briefing and responding honestly to media questions could not be more stark.....
Shes just saying exactly what I said what she would say , if she needs to leave current lockdown criteria a few days longer than the rest of uk then that's what she will do lmao.
That's pure politics, she can say she stayed in lockdown longer so she's covered her ass if it goes tits up.
Nothing said by bojo or NS is a surprise. Obviously restrictions will need slowly eased at least BOJO is trying to give timescales for the public . NS is saying it will be when she says so. That's not a leader in my opinion, that's someone playing a game. Whatever Bojo says , add 1 week to scotland's timescale. Simple !!
"The science dictates not NS. Germany who have handled this much better are now seeing rapid spikes in cases since easing off on restrictions. | |||
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"boris is a leader shes just watching from the back so she can say I told u so
The contrast between UK PM Boris Johnson "state of the nation" pre recorded address, read from a monitor, without questions.. and that of FM Nicola Sturgeon giving a detailed briefing and responding honestly to media questions could not be more stark.....
Shes just saying exactly what I said what she would say , if she needs to leave current lockdown criteria a few days longer than the rest of uk then that's what she will do lmao.
That's pure politics, she can say she stayed in lockdown longer so she's covered her ass if it goes tits up.
Nothing said by bojo or NS is a surprise. Obviously restrictions will need slowly eased at least BOJO is trying to give timescales for the public . NS is saying it will be when she says so. That's not a leader in my opinion, that's someone playing a game. Whatever Bojo says , add 1 week to scotland's timescale. Simple !!
The science dictates not NS. Germany who have handled this much better are now seeing rapid spikes in cases since easing off on restrictions. "Ok I'm no scientist but I'm making a non scientific prediction. As Bojo lifts restrictions I predict between 4 and 7 days later the science will tell Nicola to follow suit. Lol | |||
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"boris is a leader shes just watching from the back so she can say I told u so
The contrast between UK PM Boris Johnson "state of the nation" pre recorded address, read from a monitor, without questions.. and that of FM Nicola Sturgeon giving a detailed briefing and responding honestly to media questions could not be more stark.....
Shes just saying exactly what I said what she would say , if she needs to leave current lockdown criteria a few days longer than the rest of uk then that's what she will do lmao.
That's pure politics, she can say she stayed in lockdown longer so she's covered her ass if it goes tits up.
Nothing said by bojo or NS is a surprise. Obviously restrictions will need slowly eased at least BOJO is trying to give timescales for the public . NS is saying it will be when she says so. That's not a leader in my opinion, that's someone playing a game. Whatever Bojo says , add 1 week to scotland's timescale. Simple !!
The science dictates not NS. Germany who have handled this much better are now seeing rapid spikes in cases since easing off on restrictions.
Ok I'm no scientist but I'm making a non scientific prediction. As Bojo lifts restrictions I predict between 4 and 7 days later the science will tell Nicola to follow suit. Lol "She announced on Thursday along with wales and NI another 3 weeks phase. Which will be amended as and when necessary based on science and the R number. | |||
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"boris is a leader shes just watching from the back so she can say I told u so
The contrast between UK PM Boris Johnson "state of the nation" pre recorded address, read from a monitor, without questions.. and that of FM Nicola Sturgeon giving a detailed briefing and responding honestly to media questions could not be more stark.....
Shes just saying exactly what I said what she would say , if she needs to leave current lockdown criteria a few days longer than the rest of uk then that's what she will do lmao.
That's pure politics, she can say she stayed in lockdown longer so she's covered her ass if it goes tits up.
Nothing said by bojo or NS is a surprise. Obviously restrictions will need slowly eased at least BOJO is trying to give timescales for the public . NS is saying it will be when she says so. That's not a leader in my opinion, that's someone playing a game. Whatever Bojo says , add 1 week to scotland's timescale. Simple !!
The science dictates not NS. Germany who have handled this much better are now seeing rapid spikes in cases since easing off on restrictions.
Ok I'm no scientist but I'm making a non scientific prediction. As Bojo lifts restrictions I predict between 4 and 7 days later the science will tell Nicola to follow suit. Lol
She announced on Thursday along with wales and NI another 3 weeks phase. Which will be amended as and when necessary based on science and the R number.
"She will follow Bojo within days,why ? , because if rest of Uk goes back to work and shops open and our Nicola keeps them shut and people stuck in lockdown she will know people won't wear it. Scots will see it as a power trip just like her independence crusade as opposed the health of people at the heart of decisions. So whether science dictates or not she will follow rest of uk's lead. I don't have a degree in politics so will see what happens eh. You have a degree in politics yet you still believe the science will dictate her decisions. Like I say I bet the science is 4-7 days behind Bojo science. Lol | |||
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The contrast between UK PM Boris Johnson "state of the nation" pre recorded address, read from a monitor, without questions.. and that of FM Nicola Sturgeon giving a detailed briefing and responding honestly to media questions could not be more stark.....
Shes just saying exactly what I said what she would say , if she needs to leave current lockdown criteria a few days longer than the rest of uk then that's what she will do lmao.
That's pure politics, she can say she stayed in lockdown longer so she's covered her ass if it goes tits up.
Nothing said by bojo or NS is a surprise. Obviously restrictions will need slowly eased at least BOJO is trying to give timescales for the public . NS is saying it will be when she says so. That's not a leader in my opinion, that's someone playing a game. Whatever Bojo says , add 1 week to scotland's timescale. Simple !!
"She has previous for manipulating targets and deadlines. Remember the opening of the Queensferry Crossing? She announced a date that it would open then at the same time said it would then close after a few days. The Projected target from memory was August. She opened the bridge during the last week of August then shut the bridge after a couple of days fully opening it again in September. | |||
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"boris is a leader shes just watching from the back so she can say I told u so
The contrast between UK PM Boris Johnson "state of the nation" pre recorded address, read from a monitor, without questions.. and that of FM Nicola Sturgeon giving a detailed briefing and responding honestly to media questions could not be more stark.....
Shes just saying exactly what I said what she would say , if she needs to leave current lockdown criteria a few days longer than the rest of uk then that's what she will do lmao.
That's pure politics, she can say she stayed in lockdown longer so she's covered her ass if it goes tits up.
Nothing said by bojo or NS is a surprise. Obviously restrictions will need slowly eased at least BOJO is trying to give timescales for the public . NS is saying it will be when she says so. That's not a leader in my opinion, that's someone playing a game. Whatever Bojo says , add 1 week to scotland's timescale. Simple !!
The science dictates not NS. Germany who have handled this much better are now seeing rapid spikes in cases since easing off on restrictions.
Ok I'm no scientist but I'm making a non scientific prediction. As Bojo lifts restrictions I predict between 4 and 7 days later the science will tell Nicola to follow suit. Lol
She announced on Thursday along with wales and NI another 3 weeks phase. Which will be amended as and when necessary based on science and the R number.
She will follow Bojo within days,why ? , because if rest of Uk goes back to work and shops open and our Nicola keeps them shut and people stuck in lockdown she will know people won't wear it. Scots will see it as a power trip just like her independence crusade as opposed the health of people at the heart of decisions. So whether science dictates or not she will follow rest of uk's lead. I don't have a degree in politics so will see what happens eh. You have a degree in politics yet you still believe the science will dictate her decisions. Like I say I bet the science is 4-7 days behind Bojo science. Lol"Johnson and NS are politicians and governed by the science. You don’t need a degree to know the difference between safe and fucking inept | |||
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"I’m beginning to think Sweden got it right " I don’t think they did but there’s a case to be made for let’s get this over with. We have now built the nightingale hospitals, we are coming into quieter months for the nhs in general so let’s have our spike by lifting all restrictions and letting people catch it | |||
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"I’m beginning to think Sweden got it right I don’t think they did but there’s a case to be made for let’s get this over with. We have now built the nightingale hospitals, we are coming into quieter months for the nhs in general so let’s have our spike by lifting all restrictions and letting people catch it " What an absolutely callous statement
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The contrast between UK PM Boris Johnson "state of the nation" pre recorded address, read from a monitor, without questions.. and that of FM Nicola Sturgeon giving a detailed briefing and responding honestly to media questions could not be more stark.....
Shes just saying exactly what I said what she would say , if she needs to leave current lockdown criteria a few days longer than the rest of uk then that's what she will do lmao.
That's pure politics, she can say she stayed in lockdown longer so she's covered her ass if it goes tits up.
Nothing said by bojo or NS is a surprise. Obviously restrictions will need slowly eased at least BOJO is trying to give timescales for the public . NS is saying it will be when she says so. That's not a leader in my opinion, that's someone playing a game. Whatever Bojo says , add 1 week to scotland's timescale. Simple !!
The science dictates not NS. Germany who have handled this much better are now seeing rapid spikes in cases since easing off on restrictions.
Ok I'm no scientist but I'm making a non scientific prediction. As Bojo lifts restrictions I predict between 4 and 7 days later the science will tell Nicola to follow suit. Lol
She announced on Thursday along with wales and NI another 3 weeks phase. Which will be amended as and when necessary based on science and the R number.
She will follow Bojo within days,why ? , because if rest of Uk goes back to work and shops open and our Nicola keeps them shut and people stuck in lockdown she will know people won't wear it. Scots will see it as a power trip just like her independence crusade as opposed the health of people at the heart of decisions. So whether science dictates or not she will follow rest of uk's lead. I don't have a degree in politics so will see what happens eh. You have a degree in politics yet you still believe the science will dictate her decisions. Like I say I bet the science is 4-7 days behind Bojo science. Lol
Johnson and NS are politicians and governed by the science.
You don’t need a degree to know the difference between safe and fucking inept "Serious question berring, if there's a second wave in Scotland will you be calling for Nicolas resignation ? | |||
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"If there is a second wave in scotland it will due to the UK govt ineptitude not NS. The message from the devolved nations is clear. Stay home, protect the NHS and save lives. " Ehhh ? The uk government ? I thought NS had her own criteria so it falls on her head surely . | |||
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"NS says stay home and keep doing what we have been doing. Boris says go out sit in the parks go back to work play sports so i know who I'd blame. " He’s doing more for breaking the union than the other 3 nations combined
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"If there is a second wave in scotland it will due to the UK govt ineptitude not NS. The message from the devolved nations is clear. Stay home, protect the NHS and save lives. Ehhh ? The uk government ? I thought NS had her own criteria so it falls on her head surely ." Unfortunately devolution only has so much power. Say what you want about NS but her handling of this is streets ahead. | |||
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"I’m beginning to think Sweden got it right I don’t think they did but there’s a case to be made for let’s get this over with. We have now built the nightingale hospitals, we are coming into quieter months for the nhs in general so let’s have our spike by lifting all restrictions and letting people catch it What an absolutely callous statement
"If you don’t like it you know what to do and all that patter. | |||
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"I’m beginning to think Sweden got it right I don’t think they did but there’s a case to be made for let’s get this over with. We have now built the nightingale hospitals, we are coming into quieter months for the nhs in general so let’s have our spike by lifting all restrictions and letting people catch it What an absolutely callous statement
If you don’t like it you know what to do and all that patter. "We can all judge that statement. When your drawing your last breathe alone or a loved one be reminded of your herd immunity callousness should you be infected. | |||
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"I’m beginning to think Sweden got it right I don’t think they did but there’s a case to be made for let’s get this over with. We have now built the nightingale hospitals, we are coming into quieter months for the nhs in general so let’s have our spike by lifting all restrictions and letting people catch it What an absolutely callous statement
If you don’t like it you know what to do and all that patter.
We can all judge that statement. When your drawing your last breathe alone or a loved one be reminded of your herd immunity callousness should you be infected.
"We call all judge any statement, don’t need a political degree to do that. The only way we are going to stop people catching it is to find a vaccine. That’s a long way off. I would rather take my chances of catching it in the summer when I’m more likely to get a bed and proper medical attention than in the winter when it’s busier. Whilst I get your point I just don’t think it’s manageable to stop people catching it without a vaccine. Restrictions will need to be lifted at some point | |||
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"I’m beginning to think Sweden got it right I don’t think they did but there’s a case to be made for let’s get this over with. We have now built the nightingale hospitals, we are coming into quieter months for the nhs in general so let’s have our spike by lifting all restrictions and letting people catch it What an absolutely callous statement
If you don’t like it you know what to do and all that patter.
We can all judge that statement. When your drawing your last breathe alone or a loved one be reminded of your herd immunity callousness should you be infected.
We call all judge any statement, don’t need a political degree to do that.
The only way we are going to stop people catching it is to find a vaccine. That’s a long way off. I would rather take my chances of catching it in the summer when I’m more likely to get a bed and proper medical attention than in the winter when it’s busier.
Whilst I get your point I just don’t think it’s manageable to stop people catching it without a vaccine. Restrictions will need to be lifted at some point "Herd immunity was plan A and we all seen how that worked out. | |||
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"I’m beginning to think Sweden got it right I don’t think they did but there’s a case to be made for let’s get this over with. We have now built the nightingale hospitals, we are coming into quieter months for the nhs in general so let’s have our spike by lifting all restrictions and letting people catch it What an absolutely callous statement
If you don’t like it you know what to do and all that patter.
We can all judge that statement. When your drawing your last breathe alone or a loved one be reminded of your herd immunity callousness should you be infected.
We call all judge any statement, don’t need a political degree to do that.
The only way we are going to stop people catching it is to find a vaccine. That’s a long way off. I would rather take my chances of catching it in the summer when I’m more likely to get a bed and proper medical attention than in the winter when it’s busier.
Whilst I get your point I just don’t think it’s manageable to stop people catching it without a vaccine. Restrictions will need to be lifted at some point
Herd immunity was plan A and we all seen how that worked out. "I think we are now somewhere in between now as measures were taken to late. Example is Norway who implemented measures early and are ready to end restrictions Sweden didn’t act but still had less deaths per head of population than Scotland | |||
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"I’m declaring allegiance to Scotland at my Buckinghamshire address for the duration of this crisis. Clear advice to stay home. Chequers isn’t about 10 miles from here and Boris wlll be there too often for my liking. I think Boris has loosened up too soon and it will be interesting how people get to work on 10% of the transport provision. " Friendly bunch us Scots. Welcome | |||
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"Sweden has seen a large care home influx now being reported. I just think to much to soon will set us back in a worse position. Everything is up in the air now. Folks down south literally think a switch has been turned on and it’s business as usual. " I’ve not spoken to anyone down south in the past 3 hours but I will tomorrow and I’ll ask them if they expect anything major to change | |||
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