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"I don't think there's any need for people to flaunt their sexual dynamic in public like that " See that is the typical social prospective. Not having a go. But an expected answer. If a submissive walked behind their dominant with the head bowed down. Nobody would bat an eyelid. Add a collar and lead it is deemed as sexual. It is not sexual... people walk dogs on leads. What is the difference. A latex clad figure walks into the supermarket to get shopping. Not sexual. But I'll bet the pervert comments would run wild!! | |||
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" It is not sexual... people walk dogs on leads. What is the difference. " The difference is people aren't dogs | |||
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" It is not sexual... people walk dogs on leads. What is the difference. The difference is people aren't dogs" | |||
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"Would it be amazing to for the children your walking past?" This. In a nightclub, pub or all adult environment, I couldn't really care less....assuming consent as you've said. However on a trip to the supermarket with the kids? No....and though they're only primary school age we're very open with them. But it's not an explanation I would be happy trying to give them at this stage. | |||
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" It is not sexual... people walk dogs on leads. What is the difference. The difference is people aren't dogs" You sure about that? | |||
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" It is not sexual... people walk dogs on leads. What is the difference. The difference is people aren't dogs You sure about that? " Some are pedigree. Some are mutts. | |||
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"On the back of the,"Would you flash in public" thread which is quite rightly was shot down for lack of consent etc.etc. I had a thought. If you wanted to spice up a walk would you take your Submissive for a walk, Collar and lead and all. Even perhaps dressed for the occasion with A little non offensive fetish outfit etc. There nothing I see is a consent issue. However open to discussion. I saw an article no so long ago a guy was doin that in Glasgow think it was in the record.... Was this year " It was, it also turned out he was on the register | |||
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" It was, it also turned out he was on the register" For a dog licence ? | |||
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"We often go to our local bar in Spain with Suzie in her collar. Does that count?" | |||
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"It's not the same as seeing a sex act in public But it's still a way of giving an indication of your sexual predilections to the outside world And I don't see why people need to do that, particularly in a way that is gonna attract attention because of it's novelty " Attention seekers. Hold on I’ll just takr my dildo out for a walk.... | |||
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"It's not the same as seeing a sex act in public But it's still a way of giving an indication of your sexual predilections to the outside world And I don't see why people need to do that, particularly in a way that is gonna attract attention because of it's novelty Attention seekers. Hold on I’ll just takr my dildo out for a walk...." I'm just back from a walk with my blow up doll, I got some funny looks but I'm thinking that's just because she was on a lead | |||
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"It's not the same as seeing a sex act in public But it's still a way of giving an indication of your sexual predilections to the outside world And I don't see why people need to do that, particularly in a way that is gonna attract attention because of it's novelty Attention seekers. Hold on I’ll just takr my dildo out for a walk.... I'm just back from a walk with my blow up doll, I got some funny looks but I'm thinking that's just because she was on a lead " Well she might have blown away otherwise so a sensible precaution! | |||
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"It's not the same as seeing a sex act in public But it's still a way of giving an indication of your sexual predilections to the outside world And I don't see why people need to do that, particularly in a way that is gonna attract attention because of it's novelty Attention seekers. Hold on I’ll just takr my dildo out for a walk.... I'm just back from a walk with my blow up doll, I got some funny looks but I'm thinking that's just because she was on a lead Well she might have blown away otherwise so a sensible precaution!" That is a great reason to give if I ever get pulled by the police, thanks | |||
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"It's not the same as seeing a sex act in public But it's still a way of giving an indication of your sexual predilections to the outside world And I don't see why people need to do that, particularly in a way that is gonna attract attention because of it's novelty Attention seekers. Hold on I’ll just takr my dildo out for a walk.... I'm just back from a walk with my blow up doll, I got some funny looks but I'm thinking that's just because she was on a lead Well she might have blown away otherwise so a sensible precaution! That is a great reason to give if I ever get pulled by the police, thanks " If you’re from same household you’ll be fine lol | |||
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"It's not the same as seeing a sex act in public But it's still a way of giving an indication of your sexual predilections to the outside world And I don't see why people need to do that, particularly in a way that is gonna attract attention because of it's novelty Attention seekers. Hold on I’ll just takr my dildo out for a walk.... I'm just back from a walk with my blow up doll, I got some funny looks but I'm thinking that's just because she was on a lead Well she might have blown away otherwise so a sensible precaution! That is a great reason to give if I ever get pulled by the police, thanks If you’re from same household you’ll be fine lol" | |||
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"It's not the same as seeing a sex act in public But it's still a way of giving an indication of your sexual predilections to the outside world And I don't see why people need to do that, particularly in a way that is gonna attract attention because of it's novelty " So because it is a human with a collar and a lead it is sexual. But anything else it is not. I know goths that wear a collar and lead as part of an outfit. Not sexual. A friend takes the lead in hand. It now becomes sexual. That's what you are saying, basically. Anyone could walk around with a large wooden spoon in their hand all day. It's a wooden spoon but to some its s cheap impact play paddle!!! Probably more sexual.. If a male crossdresser decides to dress in tarty clothing, make up wig and go for a walk and shopping trip. Were does that lie? No difference to a basic woman on a Saturday night in the pubs clubs. But because it is a male dressed as a tarty woman. Is that sexual? People would say the woman are dressed sexually. But woman should be able to feel like they can dress however they choice without being judged. It is only sexualized because of the preconception and preconditioning of others. I suppose the key to it is all social acceptance as what is perceived as "normal behaviour". But we are all different. It's what makes up human. It's the preconditioning of the group mentality that determines what is perceived as sexual or not.. | |||
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"It's not the same as seeing a sex act in public But it's still a way of giving an indication of your sexual predilections to the outside world And I don't see why people need to do that, particularly in a way that is gonna attract attention because of it's novelty So because it is a human with a collar and a lead it is sexual. But anything else it is not. I know goths that wear a collar and lead as part of an outfit. Not sexual. A friend takes the lead in hand. It now becomes sexual. That's what you are saying, basically. Anyone could walk around with a large wooden spoon in their hand all day. It's a wooden spoon but to some its s cheap impact play paddle!!! Probably more sexual.. If a male crossdresser decides to dress in tarty clothing, make up wig and go for a walk and shopping trip. Were does that lie? No difference to a basic woman on a Saturday night in the pubs clubs. But because it is a male dressed as a tarty woman. Is that sexual? People would say the woman are dressed sexually. But woman should be able to feel like they can dress however they choice without being judged. It is only sexualized because of the preconception and preconditioning of others. I suppose the key to it is all social acceptance as what is perceived as "normal behaviour". But we are all different. It's what makes up human. It's the preconditioning of the group mentality that determines what is perceived as sexual or not.. " OP, you yourself refer to "spicing up" a normal walk in your original post. Therefore I took it that it would have some sexual intent and kick for you. So hardly surprising if others see it in a sexual way. | |||
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" OP, you yourself refer to "spicing up" a normal walk in your original post. Therefore I took it that it would have some sexual intent and kick for you. So hardly surprising if others see it in a sexual way." See said I had a thought... To quote the post," If you wanted to spice up a walk would you take your Submissive for a walk, Collar and lead and all." And I asked about whether others would think their was a consent issues. I put the onus on the post reader. | |||
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"I think there's too many ways to look at this. The issues with public displays of d/s dynamics (primarily focusing on the full leash/outfit part) I don't believe it's fair because bystanders may not consent to seeing things like that and their consent should also be taken into account, everyone's should. I think less obvious displays (walking behind an individual, keeping their eyes down, carrying bags etc) is different because it doesn't draw attention, it's less likely to be met with aversion because in all honestly, walking behind a person is something you'd shrug off in comparison to someone being walked on a leash, not everyone likes kink and that's okay and kinky people should be allowed to be themselves, because that's also okay. I'm a sub and whilst public displays are fine within reason, I don't personally engage in obvious bdsm practices such as being walked on a leash unless it was a more private setting (at home, at a club etc) " This very much falls in line with a conference we attended. One of the talks was, " don't scare the nillas", in which they discussed introduction of bdsm into normal society without scaring the everyday folk. A permanent symbol of ownership can be in any shape and form, it does necessarily need to be a collar and lead.... I suppose what angle I was looking at was the context of the items, how they were used and if it was a consent violation to others. And the whole rub to this is that you could wear the most hideous coloured t-shirt with offensive wording on it. That is just a much a consent issue as someone wearing a collar and lead!! There is no line in the sand regarding consent. Only a perception and preconditioned line or what the masses have been told. Unfortunately consent is a rather bigger issue in its simplest form to a FAB female's message inbox and the unsolicited dick pics a plenty... | |||
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" A permanent symbol of ownership can be in any shape and form, it does necessarily need to be a collar and " .....like a wedding ring? Always knew there was a more deep seated root I never wanted one. I'd be a shite sub! | |||
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"It's not the same as seeing a sex act in public But it's still a way of giving an indication of your sexual predilections to the outside world And I don't see why people need to do that, particularly in a way that is gonna attract attention because of it's novelty So because it is a human with a collar and a lead it is sexual. But anything else it is not. I know goths that wear a collar and lead as part of an outfit. Not sexual. A friend takes the lead in hand. It now becomes sexual. That's what you are saying, basically. Anyone could walk around with a large wooden spoon in their hand all day. It's a wooden spoon but to some its s cheap impact play paddle!!! Probably more sexual.. If a male crossdresser decides to dress in tarty clothing, make up wig and go for a walk and shopping trip. Were does that lie? No difference to a basic woman on a Saturday night in the pubs clubs. But because it is a male dressed as a tarty woman. Is that sexual? People would say the woman are dressed sexually. But woman should be able to feel like they can dress however they choice without being judged. It is only sexualized because of the preconception and preconditioning of others. I suppose the key to it is all social acceptance as what is perceived as "normal behaviour". But we are all different. It's what makes up human. It's the preconditioning of the group mentality that determines what is perceived as sexual or not.. " You kind of answer your own point here i think Even if its not intended to be sexual, social conditioning and perception will give it a sexual connotation , a wooden spoon is most commonly seen in a kitchen , latex and a collar and lead are most commonly seen as part of a sexual fetish Yes there might be outliers but as adults we have a responsibility to be aware of what the most generally accepted connotations would be and if that is sexual then we have to realise it is inappropriate in public | |||
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"It's not the same as seeing a sex act in public But it's still a way of giving an indication of your sexual predilections to the outside world And I don't see why people need to do that, particularly in a way that is gonna attract attention because of it's novelty Attention seekers. Hold on I’ll just takr my dildo out for a walk.... I'm just back from a walk with my blow up doll, I got some funny looks but I'm thinking that's just because she was on a lead Well she might have blown away otherwise so a sensible precaution! That is a great reason to give if I ever get pulled by the police, thanks If you’re from same household you’ll be fine lol" This has me in kinks!!! | |||
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