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By *vcarol OP   TV/TS
over a year ago

kilmarnockish

I’m looking for opinions.

With the police in England being advised that driving to a deserted place to take valid exercise is allowed, I have this question...

I have a beach which is deserted even on busy warm days. It is 20 mins by car from where I stay. The surrounding streets beside me are filled with joggers/ cyclists/ walkers and although social distancing is possible, it’s a total PIA as it’s busy.

The beach is 4 miles long, there might be 3/4 other people on it with there doggies.

Would the drive to the beach be viewed as unacceptable? At what point would it be acceptable? Is the beach a safer option?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Half the problems is people driving to beauty spots if everyone does it to avoid then they will be busier, I honestly think stay within walking distance from your home just go at different times, but heh that's just my opinion it's your decision at the end of the day..

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By *maigheo1Man
over a year ago

Edinburgh

Stay at home is the car drive necessary I would think thats a big NO! Beach car parks should be shut in anycase after all those clowns raised the risk to others weeks ago by all going there making it realy busy risking spreading a killer virus when others are trying to stop it.

20 miles in a car when not needed is over the top protect the nhs reduce the risk of car crashes potentialy leading to medical care if you dont need to use the road I would think in this case you dont. Unsure how car insurance would view thw journey if it went wrong as well.

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By *un44Man
over a year ago

GLASGOW

The pressure on the nhs isn't just about the covid 19 patients, you need to think about what happens if you have an accident on the journey to and from or during your walking so emergency services are tied up for something that could be avoided. I know its probably not going to happen but it's the possibility of it. I'd stay home and time your exercise to when its quiet around you.

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By *kbull2000Man
over a year ago

Carluke

Couple of family members are police. They've been told to consider car parks and parking near parks, beaches, dog walking locations, etc as hot spots to focus.

I doubt a 20mins drive would be accepted. A PNC check would immediately disclose the distance travelled.

I was recently stopped and the buggers checked the boot for my groceries.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It's not rocket science, driving anywhere that's not necessary is against the rules so yes your journey is definitely unnecessary. Why should you be allowed such a journey but families are locked down , holiday homes are locked down. Not having a dig at you just saying the rules are simple and easy to follow.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Driving to any place even to walk is a no no. Ask the drivers last weekend in a car park near a wood. All thirty cars in the area got a fined. Two had there card even taken if them. Having to use public transport to get home. Cars are for work if you can't work at home plus Shopping. If you breakdown. Your reported to police by AA, RAC, green flag, another's. If your in an accident courts are saying you could end up no car (crushed) and no licence. Big risk for a walk ?

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By *irth VaderMan
over a year ago

glasgow

I think if you really need to ask this question then you need a word with yourself.

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By *ola cubesMan
over a year ago

coatbridge

Beachesshouldbe closed I'm in a beach city now and the beaches have been closed for almost a month now

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By *oldswarriorMan
over a year ago

Falkirk


"Beachesshouldbe closed I'm in a beach city now and the beaches have been closed for almost a month now "

Are you in the UK though?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Beachesshouldbe closed I'm in a beach city now and the beaches have been closed for almost a month now "

No they shouldn't

I'm within walking distance of one and it's been very very quiet so there's no reason for it to be closed

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By *oldswarriorMan
over a year ago

Falkirk


"Driving to any place even to walk is a no no. Ask the drivers last weekend in a car park near a wood. All thirty cars in the area got a fined. Two had there card even taken if them. Having to use public transport to get home. Cars are for work if you can't work at home plus Shopping. If you breakdown. Your reported to police by AA, RAC, green flag, another's. If your in an accident courts are saying you could end up no car (crushed) and no licence. Big risk for a walk ?"

What courts are stating this?

A link to the info would be handy.

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By *ering SeaMan
over a year ago

Penicuik

Updated guidelines from the polis on “reasonable excuse”

Shopping - What you can do:

Buy several days' worth of food, including luxury items and alcohol

Buy a small amount of a staple item or necessity (for example a newspaper, pet food, a loaf of bread or pint of milk)

Collect surplus basic food items from a friend

Buy tools and supplies to repair a fence panel damaged in bad weather

If you're out on your weekly shop, you won't stopped from browsing the "non-essential" aisles.

The document adds that people have a reason to visit shops as long as they're open so it's not appropriate to stop them purchasing items considered to be "non-essentials".

You can't go out to buy DIY products to 'do up a room'

Shopping - What you can't do:

Police say it is not reasonable to pop out for DIY supplies so you can do up your kitchen, for example.

Exercise - What is allowed:

Going for a run or cycle, practising yoga, walking in the countryside or in cities or attending an allotment

Driving to countryside and walking (where far more time is spent walking than driving)

Stopping to rest or to eat lunch while on a long walk

In some circumstances, exercising more than once per day

You can stop to rest - if you are exercising(Image: PA)

Exercise - What isn't allowed:

Driving for a prolonged period with only brief exercise

A short walk to a park bench, when the person remains seated for a much longer period

Sunbathing in parks is not permitted, but taking a rest during a workout outdoors is permitted.

Police say exercise "must involve some movement".

Sunbathing is not allowed(Image: PA)

Work - What you can do:

Key workers or other essential workers can travel to work where it is not reasonably possible to work from home

Some non-key workers or non-essential key-workers can travel to work where it is not reasonably possible to work from home

Deliver food packages to vulnerable people.

Work - What you cannot do:

People who can work from home choosing to work in a local park

Knock on doors offering to do cash in-hand work

The government has clarified who counts as a key worker and is allowed to travel to work or bring their children to school during the day.

However, some non-key workers have been allowed to travel if they are unable to work from home or if their employer requires them to come in.

The guidelines also states that you cannot work from local gardens or parks while working from home.

Other reasons to leave home - What you can do:

Go to the vet for essential treatment

Move to a friend's address for several days to allow a "cooling-off" following arguments at home

Provide support to vulnerable people.

What you cannot do:

Visit a vet's surgery in person to renew a prescription (where this could be done over the phone)

Visiting a friend in their address or meeting in public to socialise.

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By *ering SeaMan
over a year ago

Penicuik


"Driving to any place even to walk is a no no. Ask the drivers last weekend in a car park near a wood. All thirty cars in the area got a fined. Two had there card even taken if them. Having to use public transport to get home. Cars are for work if you can't work at home plus Shopping. If you breakdown. Your reported to police by AA, RAC, green flag, another's. If your in an accident courts are saying you could end up no car (crushed) and no licence. Big risk for a walk ?"

Nonsense

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By *oldswarriorMan
over a year ago

Falkirk


"Updated guidelines from the polis on “reasonable excuse”

Shopping - What you can do:

Buy several days' worth of food, including luxury items and alcohol

Buy a small amount of a staple item or necessity (for example a newspaper, pet food, a loaf of bread or pint of milk)

Collect surplus basic food items from a friend

Buy tools and supplies to repair a fence panel damaged in bad weather

If you're out on your weekly shop, you won't stopped from browsing the "non-essential" aisles.

The document adds that people have a reason to visit shops as long as they're open so it's not appropriate to stop them purchasing items considered to be "non-essentials".

You can't go out to buy DIY products to 'do up a room'

Shopping - What you can't do:

Police say it is not reasonable to pop out for DIY supplies so you can do up your kitchen, for example.

Exercise - What is allowed:

Going for a run or cycle, practising yoga, walking in the countryside or in cities or attending an allotment

Driving to countryside and walking (where far more time is spent walking than driving)

Stopping to rest or to eat lunch while on a long walk

In some circumstances, exercising more than once per day

You can stop to rest - if you are exercising(Image: PA)

Exercise - What isn't allowed:

Driving for a prolonged period with only brief exercise

A short walk to a park bench, when the person remains seated for a much longer period

Sunbathing in parks is not permitted, but taking a rest during a workout outdoors is permitted.

Police say exercise "must involve some movement".

Sunbathing is not allowed(Image: PA)

Work - What you can do:

Key workers or other essential workers can travel to work where it is not reasonably possible to work from home

Some non-key workers or non-essential key-workers can travel to work where it is not reasonably possible to work from home

Deliver food packages to vulnerable people.

Work - What you cannot do:

People who can work from home choosing to work in a local park

Knock on doors offering to do cash in-hand work

The government has clarified who counts as a key worker and is allowed to travel to work or bring their children to school during the day.

However, some non-key workers have been allowed to travel if they are unable to work from home or if their employer requires them to come in.

The guidelines also states that you cannot work from local gardens or parks while working from home.

Other reasons to leave home - What you can do:

Go to the vet for essential treatment

Move to a friend's address for several days to allow a "cooling-off" following arguments at home

Provide support to vulnerable people.

What you cannot do:

Visit a vet's surgery in person to renew a prescription (where this could be done over the phone)

Visiting a friend in their address or meeting in public to socialise.

"

Good info

Parts that can be open to interpretation-

Exercise - What is allowed:

Driving to countryside and walking (where far more time is spent walking than driving).

This could be the OP's intention.

Exercise - What isn't allowed:

Driving for a prolonged period with only brief exercise.

What is defined as a long period and brief?

From the info that is given the OP can go to the beach.

My favourite bit-

Police say exercise "must involve some movement".

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By *ering SeaMan
over a year ago

Penicuik

Exercise must involve some movement had me as well

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By *onkeymagic50Man
over a year ago

Near the harbour

The uk government has just opened stanstead airport so fruit pickers can be flown in ,given the incubation period for covad is roughly 2 weeks before symptoms show ,I would say a drive to the beach is bloody right, lockdown my arse

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By *luebell888Woman
over a year ago

Glasgowish


"The uk government has just opened stanstead airport so fruit pickers can be flown in ,given the incubation period for covad is roughly 2 weeks before symptoms show ,I would say a drive to the beach is bloody right, lockdown my arse"

Yes that was shocking to hear.

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By *ola cubesMan
over a year ago

coatbridge


"Beachesshouldbe closed I'm in a beach city now and the beaches have been closed for almost a month now

Are you in the UK though?"

nope

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By *ola cubesMan
over a year ago

coatbridge


"Beachesshouldbe closed I'm in a beach city now and the beaches have been closed for almost a month now

No they shouldn't

I'm within walking distance of one and it's been very very quiet so there's no reason for it to be closed "

we all have opinions and I believe anywhere with the possibility of social gatherings should be closed it's working here only things open are stores for food and your temp checked and disinfected on entry

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By *ilverminxWoman
over a year ago

edinburgh


"Updated guidelines from the polis on “reasonable excuse”

Move to a friend's address for several days to allow a "cooling-off" following arguments at home

"

This bit makes no sense.. so I can go for a sleepover? This sounds like fun

Has anyone actually been stopped? What did they ask?

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By *ilverminxWoman
over a year ago

edinburgh


"The uk government has just opened stanstead airport so fruit pickers can be flown in ,given the incubation period for covad is roughly 2 weeks before symptoms show ,I would say a drive to the beach is bloody right, lockdown my arse

Yes that was shocking to hear."

Not really, fruit pickers have always come from Europe. It’s too filthy for us Brits to pick fruit. If it isn’t picked, it’s going to go to waste and we won’t have any fruit especially important after brexit. I don’t understand why we don’t have all the able bodies collecting govt payouts doing it. It’s actually as much pay as I make per hour as a nurse!

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By *luebell888Woman
over a year ago

Glasgowish


"The uk government has just opened stanstead airport so fruit pickers can be flown in ,given the incubation period for covad is roughly 2 weeks before symptoms show ,I would say a drive to the beach is bloody right, lockdown my arse

Yes that was shocking to hear.

Not really, fruit pickers have always come from Europe. It’s too filthy for us Brits to pick fruit. If it isn’t picked, it’s going to go to waste and we won’t have any fruit especially important after brexit. I don’t understand why we don’t have all the able bodies collecting govt payouts doing it. It’s actually as much pay as I make per hour as a nurse! "

At this time i am sure many would have been grareful to do this job to earn extra money.

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By *ering SeaMan
over a year ago

Penicuik


"Updated guidelines from the polis on “reasonable excuse”

Move to a friend's address for several days to allow a "cooling-off" following arguments at home

This bit makes no sense.. so I can go for a sleepover? This sounds like fun "

See you soon, we can discuss how it made perfect sense after...

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By *oldswarriorMan
over a year ago

Falkirk


"Beachesshouldbe closed I'm in a beach city now and the beaches have been closed for almost a month now

Are you in the UK though?nope "

So it's not applicable.

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By *ilverminxWoman
over a year ago

edinburgh


"The uk government has just opened stanstead airport so fruit pickers can be flown in ,given the incubation period for covad is roughly 2 weeks before symptoms show ,I would say a drive to the beach is bloody right, lockdown my arse

Yes that was shocking to hear.

Not really, fruit pickers have always come from Europe. It’s too filthy for us Brits to pick fruit. If it isn’t picked, it’s going to go to waste and we won’t have any fruit especially important after brexit. I don’t understand why we don’t have all the able bodies collecting govt payouts doing it. It’s actually as much pay as I make per hour as a nurse!

At this time i am sure many would have been grareful to do this job to earn extra money."

Yet no one took it on.... they’ve had it in the papers for weeks now!

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By *ilverminxWoman
over a year ago

edinburgh


"Updated guidelines from the polis on “reasonable excuse”

Move to a friend's address for several days to allow a "cooling-off" following arguments at home

This bit makes no sense.. so I can go for a sleepover? This sounds like fun

See you soon, we can discuss how it made perfect sense after...

"

Lol I think you might be vulnerable

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By *ering SeaMan
over a year ago

Penicuik


"Updated guidelines from the polis on “reasonable excuse”

Move to a friend's address for several days to allow a "cooling-off" following arguments at home

This bit makes no sense.. so I can go for a sleepover? This sounds like fun

See you soon, we can discuss how it made perfect sense after...

Lol I think you might be vulnerable "

Exactly. *lobs a bottle in fridge for later*

*dusts of ones best candles*

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By *ootall2920Man
over a year ago

Linlithgow


"Updated guidelines from the polis on “reasonable excuse”

Move to a friend's address for several days to allow a "cooling-off" following arguments at home

This bit makes no sense.. so I can go for a sleepover? This sounds like fun

..."

I'm sure you're aware that it's really about potential domestic abuse victims. Make light of it if you want.

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By *ola cubesMan
over a year ago

coatbridge


"Beachesshouldbe closed I'm in a beach city now and the beaches have been closed for almost a month now

Are you in the UK though?nope

So it's not applicable.

"

measures that stop the spread should be global its perhaps why the uk figures are so bad in comparison to other countries that adhere to social distancing measures instead of folk deciding to swan off down the beach as they are bored

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By *ering SeaMan
over a year ago

Penicuik

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By *ering SeaMan
over a year ago

Penicuik


"Updated guidelines from the polis on “reasonable excuse”

Move to a friend's address for several days to allow a "cooling-off" following arguments at home

This bit makes no sense.. so I can go for a sleepover? This sounds like fun

...

I'm sure you're aware that it's really about potential domestic abuse victims. Make light of it if you want.

"

Can you show us how she’s making light of domestic abuse ?

Absurd statement

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By *ootall2920Man
over a year ago

Linlithgow


"Updated guidelines from the polis on “reasonable excuse”

Move to a friend's address for several days to allow a "cooling-off" following arguments at home

This bit makes no sense.. so I can go for a sleepover? This sounds like fun

...

I'm sure you're aware that it's really about potential domestic abuse victims. Make light of it if you want.

Can you show us how she’s making light of domestic abuse ?

Absurd statement "

Quite simply. By saying that she can use this reason to go for a sleep over is making light of the real reason for this guideline. She also appears to be single, so not likely not (though not impossible) to suffer from domestic abuse at home and so in all probability would not have reason to use this guideline.

Therefore she is making a flippant comment about that guideline and the reason behind it "making no sense".

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By *ering SeaMan
over a year ago

Penicuik


"Updated guidelines from the polis on “reasonable excuse”

Move to a friend's address for several days to allow a "cooling-off" following arguments at home

This bit makes no sense.. so I can go for a sleepover? This sounds like fun

...

I'm sure you're aware that it's really about potential domestic abuse victims. Make light of it if you want.

Can you show us how she’s making light of domestic abuse ?

Absurd statement

Quite simply. By saying that she can use this reason to go for a sleep over is making light of the real reason for this guideline. She also appears to be single, so not likely not (though not impossible) to suffer from domestic abuse at home and so in all probability would not have reason to use this guideline.

Therefore she is making a flippant comment about that guideline and the reason behind it "making no sense".

"

All I read is lots of assumptions on your part to a lighthearted take on the guidelines in written form from a poster who you know nothing of her personal circumstances.

The guidelines are open to interpretation. You take your assumptions and let others take theirs. At no point did she conflict domestic abuse with the interpretation.

That was you.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Still driving to take my dogs their walk..past loads of police.

Just saying

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By *ootall2920Man
over a year ago

Linlithgow


"Updated guidelines from the polis on “reasonable excuse”

Move to a friend's address for several days to allow a "cooling-off" following arguments at home

This bit makes no sense.. so I can go for a sleepover? This sounds like fun

...

I'm sure you're aware that it's really about potential domestic abuse victims. Make light of it if you want.

Can you show us how she’s making light of domestic abuse ?

Absurd statement

Quite simply. By saying that she can use this reason to go for a sleep over is making light of the real reason for this guideline. She also appears to be single, so not likely not (though not impossible) to suffer from domestic abuse at home and so in all probability would not have reason to use this guideline.

Therefore she is making a flippant comment about that guideline and the reason behind it "making no sense".

All I read is lots of assumptions on your part to a lighthearted take on the guidelines in written form from a poster who you know nothing of her personal circumstances.

The guidelines are open to interpretation. You take your assumptions and let others take theirs. At no point did she conflict domestic abuse with the interpretation.

That was you. "

Yes, you're right. I did state and explain my assumptions in my last post, though. Ask reasonable i think.

The one assumption I made, and I stand by, that i didn't explain, is that both you are the person who made the original comment are intelligent and articulate individuals.

In my opinion you are both able to make the connection.

I may be over sensitive about this topic, but I still think it was a poorly thought out and made comment.

The lock down is making me a bit grumpy also.

This is my last post on the subject as we're not getting anywhere. I will let you have the last word and I will read it, but not comment as I feel we're antagonising each other for little reason or gain.

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By *ering SeaMan
over a year ago

Penicuik


"Updated guidelines from the polis on “reasonable excuse”

Move to a friend's address for several days to allow a "cooling-off" following arguments at home

This bit makes no sense.. so I can go for a sleepover? This sounds like fun

...

I'm sure you're aware that it's really about potential domestic abuse victims. Make light of it if you want.

Can you show us how she’s making light of domestic abuse ?

Absurd statement

Quite simply. By saying that she can use this reason to go for a sleep over is making light of the real reason for this guideline. She also appears to be single, so not likely not (though not impossible) to suffer from domestic abuse at home and so in all probability would not have reason to use this guideline.

Therefore she is making a flippant comment about that guideline and the reason behind it "making no sense".

All I read is lots of assumptions on your part to a lighthearted take on the guidelines in written form from a poster who you know nothing of her personal circumstances.

The guidelines are open to interpretation. You take your assumptions and let others take theirs. At no point did she conflict domestic abuse with the interpretation.

That was you.

Yes, you're right. I did state and explain my assumptions in my last post, though. Ask reasonable i think.

The one assumption I made, and I stand by, that i didn't explain, is that both you are the person who made the original comment are intelligent and articulate individuals.

In my opinion you are both able to make the connection.

I may be over sensitive about this topic, but I still think it was a poorly thought out and made comment.

The lock down is making me a bit grumpy also.

This is my last post on the subject as we're not getting anywhere. I will let you have the last word and I will read it, but not comment as I feel we're antagonising each other for little reason or gain. "

Accepted

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Still driving to take my dogs their walk..past loads of police.

Just saying "

If you read my inbox not so sure you would feel so smug.

Just saying.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

As I said..I'm keep doing what iv been doing with the police ok.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"As I said..I'm keep doing what iv been doing with the police ok.

"

Yeah no worries, you carry on bragging about ignoring the lock down rules and carry on as normal.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

No smugness or bragging.

Just saying it like it is.

Iv told you I dont know how many times I asked the police and they said I'm fine.

Il take their word over a guy on a sex site everytime.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"No smugness or bragging.

Just saying it like it is.

Iv told you I dont know how many times I asked the police and they said I'm fine.

Il take their word over a guy on a sex site everytime.

"

Now your being silly, I'm not asking you to take my word for anything. I'm saying you are selfishly ignoring the advice from the Scottish, cmo, UK cmo, advice from the Scottish government, that advice being : if you need to exercise or walk dogs , the advice is stay local and avoid unnecessary travel, again it's not rocket science, driving to anywhere can't be local otherwise driving would not be necessary. If you are driving to a local place then again driving there would be classed as unnecessary travel as you could wlk. Regardless of what your police offer said you are still selfishly breaking the rules either way for your reason for driving . Capesh.

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By *luebell888Woman
over a year ago

Glasgowish


"No smugness or bragging.

Just saying it like it is.

Iv told you I dont know how many times I asked the police and they said I'm fine.

Il take their word over a guy on a sex site everytime.

Now your being silly, I'm not asking you to take my word for anything. I'm saying you are selfishly ignoring the advice from the Scottish, cmo, UK cmo, advice from the Scottish government, that advice being : if you need to exercise or walk dogs , the advice is stay local and avoid unnecessary travel, again it's not rocket science, driving to anywhere can't be local otherwise driving would not be necessary. If you are driving to a local place then again driving there would be classed as unnecessary travel as you could wlk. Regardless of what your police offer said you are still selfishly breaking the rules either way for your reason for driving . Capesh. "

You are being silly. I am far from foolish and done a mental risk assessment for my dog walks. The drive takes probably under 6mins and the walk would take about 30mins with 2 dogs who sniff at every lamp post and wall they see. I live beside 2 shops and a school which is still open. By walking i would pass many people. Driving is by far the safest option in my eyes so i will continue to do it.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"No smugness or bragging.

Just saying it like it is.

Iv told you I dont know how many times I asked the police and they said I'm fine.

Il take their word over a guy on a sex site everytime.

Now your being silly, I'm not asking you to take my word for anything. I'm saying you are selfishly ignoring the advice from the Scottish, cmo, UK cmo, advice from the Scottish government, that advice being : if you need to exercise or walk dogs , the advice is stay local and avoid unnecessary travel, again it's not rocket science, driving to anywhere can't be local otherwise driving would not be necessary. If you are driving to a local place then again driving there would be classed as unnecessary travel as you could wlk. Regardless of what your police offer said you are still selfishly breaking the rules either way for your reason for driving . Capesh. "

Were you don corleone last time round?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"No smugness or bragging.

Just saying it like it is.

Iv told you I dont know how many times I asked the police and they said I'm fine.

Il take their word over a guy on a sex site everytime.

Now your being silly, I'm not asking you to take my word for anything. I'm saying you are selfishly ignoring the advice from the Scottish, cmo, UK cmo, advice from the Scottish government, that advice being : if you need to exercise or walk dogs , the advice is stay local and avoid unnecessary travel, again it's not rocket science, driving to anywhere can't be local otherwise driving would not be necessary. If you are driving to a local place then again driving there would be classed as unnecessary travel as you could wlk. Regardless of what your police offer said you are still selfishly breaking the rules either way for your reason for driving . Capesh.

You are being silly. I am far from foolish and done a mental risk assessment for my dog walks. The drive takes probably under 6mins and the walk would take about 30mins with 2 dogs who sniff at every lamp post and wall they see. I live beside 2 shops and a school which is still open. By walking i would pass many people. Driving is by far the safest option in my eyes so i will continue to do it."

same I'd come across more people and take longer to walk there where I take mine.

Silly man

But be rest assure the other 2 times the dogs are walked my hubby n kids walk them.so you can sleep well tonight in that knowledge zest.

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over a year ago


"No smugness or bragging.

Just saying it like it is.

Iv told you I dont know how many times I asked the police and they said I'm fine.

Il take their word over a guy on a sex site everytime.

Now your being silly, I'm not asking you to take my word for anything. I'm saying you are selfishly ignoring the advice from the Scottish, cmo, UK cmo, advice from the Scottish government, that advice being : if you need to exercise or walk dogs , the advice is stay local and avoid unnecessary travel, again it's not rocket science, driving to anywhere can't be local otherwise driving would not be necessary. If you are driving to a local place then again driving there would be classed as unnecessary travel as you could wlk. Regardless of what your police offer said you are still selfishly breaking the rules either way for your reason for driving . Capesh.

You are being silly. I am far from foolish and done a mental risk assessment for my dog walks. The drive takes probably under 6mins and the walk would take about 30mins with 2 dogs who sniff at every lamp post and wall they see. I live beside 2 shops and a school which is still open. By walking i would pass many people. Driving is by far the safest option in my eyes so i will continue to do it.same I'd come across more people and take longer to walk there where I take mine.

Silly man

But be rest assure the other 2 times the dogs are walked my hubby n kids walk them.so you can sleep well tonight in that knowledge zest."

That's fantastic , if only everyone would comply with the lockdown rules maybe we would all get through this quicker. My only issue with you was the fact you bragged in another thread saying YOU would continue as normal and walk your dog multiple times a day. Appreciate your family is now walking the dog as part of their own daily excerise . Everyone a winner including your dog. I appreciate your compliance.

Only need 1 other rule breaker who brags on here to accept she is also breaking the rules and perhaps change her selfish ways.

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By *iercedyvonneTV/TS
over a year ago

Glasgow

I live near a popular walking destination.

It's mayhem here - cars everywhere - busier than usual - actually busier than in the local town.

Even got mountain bikers driving out with bikes obvious to see on their cars - saw one who had hurt himself - I didn't stop to help even though I am qualified to do so and I even saw a group of 3 guys meeting up to go mountain biking!

An earlier poster is right - it's not essential. You run the risk of having an accident meaning you, potential occupants of other cars, the fire brigade, police and potentially numerous ambulances, A&E staff etc etc all needlessly being exposed.

Then you could have a breakdown needing AA help and you will eventually need to fill up - yet more chances of exposure.

And all so you can go for a walk somewhere different.

It's shit like this that has led to an extension of the lockdown and also to more deaths than were necessary and the overloading of the poor NHS staff who are in tears on the TV all the time asking us not to go out.

I know the argument is that you are unlikely to have any incidents and will take precautions but A&E departments are full 365 days a year with people who didn't plan to be there.

Driving to go for a walk is just one of thousands of unnecessary things people are doing which must lead to hundreds of millions of unnecessary things being done across the UK every day all of which carry a small risk. It all adds up to real infections and deaths and not just of the people doing unnecessary stuff.

Just stay home.

Also, the recent police guidelines are unhelpful. What stupid cretin thought that up?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"No smugness or bragging.

Just saying it like it is.

Iv told you I dont know how many times I asked the police and they said I'm fine.

Il take their word over a guy on a sex site everytime.

Now your being silly, I'm not asking you to take my word for anything. I'm saying you are selfishly ignoring the advice from the Scottish, cmo, UK cmo, advice from the Scottish government, that advice being : if you need to exercise or walk dogs , the advice is stay local and avoid unnecessary travel, again it's not rocket science, driving to anywhere can't be local otherwise driving would not be necessary. If you are driving to a local place then again driving there would be classed as unnecessary travel as you could wlk. Regardless of what your police offer said you are still selfishly breaking the rules either way for your reason for driving . Capesh.

You are being silly. I am far from foolish and done a mental risk assessment for my dog walks. The drive takes probably under 6mins and the walk would take about 30mins with 2 dogs who sniff at every lamp post and wall they see. I live beside 2 shops and a school which is still open. By walking i would pass many people. Driving is by far the safest option in my eyes so i will continue to do it.same I'd come across more people and take longer to walk there where I take mine.

Silly man

But be rest assure the other 2 times the dogs are walked my hubby n kids walk them.so you can sleep well tonight in that knowledge zest.

That's fantastic , if only everyone would comply with the lockdown rules maybe we would all get through this quicker. My only issue with you was the fact you bragged in another thread saying YOU would continue as normal and walk your dog multiple times a day. Appreciate your family is now walking the dog as part of their own daily excerise . Everyone a winner including your dog. I appreciate your compliance.

Only need 1 other rule breaker who brags on here to accept she is also breaking the rules and perhaps change her selfish ways. "

no one is bragging.your the stooping to name calling

Most are having an adult discussion.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"No smugness or bragging.

Just saying it like it is.

Iv told you I dont know how many times I asked the police and they said I'm fine.

Il take their word over a guy on a sex site everytime.

Now your being silly, I'm not asking you to take my word for anything. I'm saying you are selfishly ignoring the advice from the Scottish, cmo, UK cmo, advice from the Scottish government, that advice being : if you need to exercise or walk dogs , the advice is stay local and avoid unnecessary travel, again it's not rocket science, driving to anywhere can't be local otherwise driving would not be necessary. If you are driving to a local place then again driving there would be classed as unnecessary travel as you could wlk. Regardless of what your police offer said you are still selfishly breaking the rules either way for your reason for driving . Capesh.

You are being silly. I am far from foolish and done a mental risk assessment for my dog walks. The drive takes probably under 6mins and the walk would take about 30mins with 2 dogs who sniff at every lamp post and wall they see. I live beside 2 shops and a school which is still open. By walking i would pass many people. Driving is by far the safest option in my eyes so i will continue to do it.same I'd come across more people and take longer to walk there where I take mine.

Silly man

But be rest assure the other 2 times the dogs are walked my hubby n kids walk them.so you can sleep well tonight in that knowledge zest.

That's fantastic , if only everyone would comply with the lockdown rules maybe we would all get through this quicker. My only issue with you was the fact you bragged in another thread saying YOU would continue as normal and walk your dog multiple times a day. Appreciate your family is now walking the dog as part of their own daily excerise . Everyone a winner including your dog. I appreciate your compliance.

Only need 1 other rule breaker who brags on here to accept she is also breaking the rules and perhaps change her selfish ways. no one is bragging.your the stooping to name calling

Most are having an adult discussion."

Most people in society are acting like adults and following guidelines, even young children understand why they can't see thier friends or carry on as normal. Please do tell me how you would address someone who risks other people's lives on a daily basis then continues to believe she is doing nothing wrong.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'm risking others because?

I'm not interacting with anyone that's my point.

Anyway I'm bored saying the same stuff over and over its proven you like to get the last word so heres your stage.

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By *luebell888Woman
over a year ago

Glasgowish


"No smugness or bragging.

Just saying it like it is.

Iv told you I dont know how many times I asked the police and they said I'm fine.

Il take their word over a guy on a sex site everytime.

Now your being silly, I'm not asking you to take my word for anything. I'm saying you are selfishly ignoring the advice from the Scottish, cmo, UK cmo, advice from the Scottish government, that advice being : if you need to exercise or walk dogs , the advice is stay local and avoid unnecessary travel, again it's not rocket science, driving to anywhere can't be local otherwise driving would not be necessary. If you are driving to a local place then again driving there would be classed as unnecessary travel as you could wlk. Regardless of what your police offer said you are still selfishly breaking the rules either way for your reason for driving . Capesh.

You are being silly. I am far from foolish and done a mental risk assessment for my dog walks. The drive takes probably under 6mins and the walk would take about 30mins with 2 dogs who sniff at every lamp post and wall they see. I live beside 2 shops and a school which is still open. By walking i would pass many people. Driving is by far the safest option in my eyes so i will continue to do it.same I'd come across more people and take longer to walk there where I take mine.

Silly man

But be rest assure the other 2 times the dogs are walked my hubby n kids walk them.so you can sleep well tonight in that knowledge zest.

That's fantastic , if only everyone would comply with the lockdown rules maybe we would all get through this quicker. My only issue with you was the fact you bragged in another thread saying YOU would continue as normal and walk your dog multiple times a day. Appreciate your family is now walking the dog as part of their own daily excerise . Everyone a winner including your dog. I appreciate your compliance.

Only need 1 other rule breaker who brags on here to accept she is also breaking the rules and perhaps change her selfish ways. no one is bragging.your the stooping to name calling

Most are having an adult discussion.

Most people in society are acting like adults and following guidelines, even young children understand why they can't see thier friends or carry on as normal. Please do tell me how you would address someone who risks other people's lives on a daily basis then continues to believe she is doing nothing wrong. "

You are barking mad. This dog talk has really gone to your head.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

So there it is fellow Fabbers, one makes a joke of over 800 lives lost in Scotland by thinking it's funny to break the rules and make up funny dog comments about it and the other finds them funny. None of the examples above about the risks of driving unnecessarily seem to get through so let's make jokes instead. Nice. !!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Yawn...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Yawn..."

Is this part of your adult conversation you claim to be having ?

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over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

OP it was maybe a mistake to ask for people's opinions on this, opinions aren't really relevant. What does matter is the law and you are entitled go to the beach for a walk while observing social distancing rules

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By *oldswarriorMan
over a year ago

Falkirk


"OP it was maybe a mistake to ask for people's opinions on this, opinions aren't really relevant. What does matter is the law and you are entitled go to the beach for a walk while observing social distancing rules"

This is correct

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"OP it was maybe a mistake to ask for people's opinions on this, opinions aren't really relevant. What does matter is the law and you are entitled go to the beach for a walk while observing social distancing rules"
that there is an adult

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By *artyanna16200TV/TS
over a year ago

leeds

No mate i beg to differ , if you feel the need to talk to someone like this , its YOU that needs to uave a word with yourself, tue teason im saying ths is because i want to avoid people just like you on late night /early morning walk dressed as i choose .

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"OP it was maybe a mistake to ask for people's opinions on this, opinions aren't really relevant. What does matter is the law and you are entitled go to the beach for a walk while observing social distancing rulesthat there is an adult "

The OP said drive to the beach so again it's an unnecessary journey. Not an opinion but the rules should you care to research them rather than give bad advice.

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By *alcon43Woman
over a year ago

Paisley

Back to the original question. The beach is not frequented by many and it is off the beaten track. It’s not one of the popular beaches.

Yes the distance to get there is questionable but the walk can be good for mental and physical well being.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I’m looking for opinions.

With the police in England being advised that driving to a deserted place to take valid exercise is allowed, I have this question...

I have a beach which is deserted even on busy warm days. It is 20 mins by car from where I stay. The surrounding streets beside me are filled with joggers/ cyclists/ walkers and although social distancing is possible, it’s a total PIA as it’s busy.

The beach is 4 miles long, there might be 3/4 other people on it with there doggies.

Would the drive to the beach be viewed as unacceptable? At what point would it be acceptable? Is the beach a safer option?"

I wouldn't chance a 20 min drive...my car cut out at the lights the other day on the way back from the local supermarket and panic set in. All I could think of was what it would be like if I'd been stranded further away or in a bump.

That's just me though....I'll admit I'm slightly paranoid at the moment.

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By *luebell888Woman
over a year ago

Glasgowish

I would not drive 20mins to anywhere except work.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

You could breakdown, crash whatever if you drive but you could also trip over, get knocked down or get mugged if you walk locally.

Today I seen 6 police officers standing together talking on the Paisley road west outside a roll shop near their station. There was also 4 or 5 people waiting to get in as well. There was no social distancing and the police weren’t to bothered about anything other than their rolls.

I don’t know if anyone who has been stopped, questioned or anything like that.

If you know for sure the beach will be quiet I would go but there’s a lot of people with the same idea to go to local quiet places making them very busy

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Would I drive 20 mins to the beach? Yes I probably would. Would I ask random strangers on a sex site about it? Definitely not.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I would not drive 20mins to anywhere except work."

You admitted driving 3 times a day to walk your dogs, there and back every day for the last 4 weeks how much time would that driving add up to ? . All of which any journey no matter how short could have ended like doggy's experience. But hey you could just make up more dog jokes while waiting for the AA or RAC or some poor relative or friend to bail you out from your unnecessary journey you feel you must take every day.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I would not drive 20mins to anywhere except work.

You admitted driving 3 times a day to walk your dogs, there and back every day for the last 4 weeks how much time would that driving add up to ? . All of which any journey no matter how short could have ended like doggy's experience. But hey you could just make up more dog jokes while waiting for the AA or RAC or some poor relative or friend to bail you out from your unnecessary journey you feel you must take every day. "

You said we should let our dogs toilet on a plastic sheet in our houses you would probably now be the last person i would take pet advice from, that includes walks

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"You could breakdown, crash whatever if you drive but you could also trip over, get knocked down or get mugged if you walk locally.

Today I seen 6 police officers standing together talking on the Paisley road west outside a roll shop near their station. There was also 4 or 5 people waiting to get in as well. There was no social distancing and the police weren’t to bothered about anything other than their rolls.

I don’t know if anyone who has been stopped, questioned or anything like that.

If you know for sure the beach will be quiet I would go but there’s a lot of people with the same idea to go to local quiet places making them very busy "

Your 100% right loads of people, police included breaking the rules. In my opinion there all selfish fucks and extending the lock down for a lot of people. Luckily I'm still working but they clearly are giving no thoughts to the mental health of thousands who are in lockdown.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"You could breakdown, crash whatever if you drive but you could also trip over, get knocked down or get mugged if you walk locally.

Today I seen 6 police officers standing together talking on the Paisley road west outside a roll shop near their station. There was also 4 or 5 people waiting to get in as well. There was no social distancing and the police weren’t to bothered about anything other than their rolls.

I don’t know if anyone who has been stopped, questioned or anything like that.

If you know for sure the beach will be quiet I would go but there’s a lot of people with the same idea to go to local quiet places making them very busy

Your 100% right loads of people, police included breaking the rules. In my opinion there all selfish fucks and extending the lock down for a lot of people. Luckily I'm still working but they clearly are giving no thoughts to the mental health of thousands who are in lockdown. "

The police are wrong as well now and it’s only you that’s right lol

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By *eep.Man
over a year ago

Just a background character

'Trial by Fab' - love it - who needs Netflix dramas

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By *luebell888Woman
over a year ago

Glasgowish


"I would not drive 20mins to anywhere except work.

You admitted driving 3 times a day to walk your dogs, there and back every day for the last 4 weeks how much time would that driving add up to ? . All of which any journey no matter how short could have ended like doggy's experience. But hey you could just make up more dog jokes while waiting for the AA or RAC or some poor relative or friend to bail you out from your unnecessary journey you feel you must take every day. "

As i said i would not drive 20miles for one trip.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I would not drive 20mins to anywhere except work

As i said i would not drive 20miles for one trip."

You actually send 20 minutes.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Myself and bluebell both said we drive minutes...minutes to avoid meeting people to walk our dogs..now it's a 20 miles drive lol

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By *vbride1963TV/TS
over a year ago

E.K . Glasgow


"I’m looking for opinions.

With the police in England being advised that driving to a deserted place to take valid exercise is allowed, I have this question...

I have a beach which is deserted even on busy warm days. It is 20 mins by car from where I stay. The surrounding streets beside me are filled with joggers/ cyclists/ walkers and although social distancing is possible, it’s a total PIA as it’s busy.

The beach is 4 miles long, there might be 3/4 other people on it with there doggies.

Would the drive to the beach be viewed as unacceptable? At what point would it be acceptable? Is the beach a safer option?

I wouldn't chance a 20 min drive...my car cut out at the lights the other day on the way back from the local supermarket and panic set in. All I could think of was what it would be like if I'd been stranded further away or in a bump.

That's just me though....I'll admit I'm slightly paranoid All the time . "

Sorted .

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"OP it was maybe a mistake to ask for people's opinions on this, opinions aren't really relevant. What does matter is the law and you are entitled go to the beach for a walk while observing social distancing rulesthat there is an adult

The OP said drive to the beach so again it's an unnecessary journey. Not an opinion but the rules should you care to research them rather than give bad advice. "

I have.He can drive somewhere to exercise within certain guidelines.Somehow I don't think you will accept this but it is the law.Bering Sea even listed it in a previous post

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By *vbride1963TV/TS
over a year ago

E.K . Glasgow

Guidance for police south of the border says that a journey which was less time than exercise time was fine though if a longer journey for little exercise was not .

I’ve seen nothing for Scottish forces .

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By *luebell888Woman
over a year ago

Glasgowish


"I would not drive 20mins to anywhere except work

As i said i would not drive 20miles for one trip.

You actually send 20 minutes. "

well minutes or miles. I drive round the corner but that appears to be the crime of the centuary to some hot headed folk.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Simple answer and not wanting to sound cheeky but if you need to come on FAB and ask if it’s ok to do something then the chances are it’s not ok to do. I get why you would want to go to a beach but good things come to those that wait.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I’m looking for opinions.

With the police in England being advised that driving to a deserted place to take valid exercise is allowed, I have this question...

I have a beach which is deserted even on busy warm days. It is 20 mins by car from where I stay. The surrounding streets beside me are filled with joggers/ cyclists/ walkers and although social distancing is possible, it’s a total PIA as it’s busy.

The beach is 4 miles long, there might be 3/4 other people on it with there doggies.

Would the drive to the beach be viewed as unacceptable? At what point would it be acceptable? Is the beach a safer option?"

Wish I was that lucky I've never seen so many fricking dog walkers in the park at one time. I can't wait for peace and tranquility again

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By *eiaorganaWoman
over a year ago

Dundee

There is a country park and woods a 5 min drive from us, or the river is the same distance. We either go there or to woods a little further away, about 20 mins.

We live in the middle of a housing estate, there are more people walking the streets than at these places, with the exception of the river which can have pockets of people at points, so we try to minimise that as much as possible.

The health secretary has been on tv saying this is ok as long as common sense is used, so until that direction is rescinded we will do this for our daily exercise.

The police and the government need to clarify their message and work as one. The majority of us are social distancing as much as possible, unlike the police and crowds on london bridge last night doing their clap

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over a year ago


"There is a country park and woods a 5 min drive from us, or the river is the same distance. We either go there or to woods a little further away, about 20 mins.

We live in the middle of a housing estate, there are more people walking the streets than at these places, with the exception of the river which can have pockets of people at points, so we try to minimise that as much as possible.

The health secretary has been on tv saying this is ok as long as common sense is used, so until that direction is rescinded we will do this for our daily exercise.

The police and the government need to clarify their message and work as one. The majority of us are social distancing as much as possible, unlike the police and crowds on london bridge last night doing their clap "

The advice and guidelines are clear. Essential travel only. Driving 20 miles for a walk in the woods isn't essential.

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By *eiaorganaWoman
over a year ago

Dundee


"There is a country park and woods a 5 min drive from us, or the river is the same distance. We either go there or to woods a little further away, about 20 mins.

We live in the middle of a housing estate, there are more people walking the streets than at these places, with the exception of the river which can have pockets of people at points, so we try to minimise that as much as possible.

The health secretary has been on tv saying this is ok as long as common sense is used, so until that direction is rescinded we will do this for our daily exercise.

The police and the government need to clarify their message and work as one. The majority of us are social distancing as much as possible, unlike the police and crowds on london bridge last night doing their clap

The advice and guidelines are clear. Essential travel only. Driving 20 miles for a walk in the woods isn't essential. "

Yes they are, having a walk in the woods is fine if you're staying away from other people, as repeatedly stated by the health secretary.

And I'm not travelling 20 miles

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By *mmixtapeCouple
over a year ago

middle earth

My pal went to a beach with her dog which is 15 minutes from her house. She got stopped by the police and fined. I would say it's a no

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By *ittle_missknowitallWoman
over a year ago

glasgow

This is better than car crash tv (no pun on the car crash)

Guidelines are as clear as the intellect of the person reading them

As for people clapping on bridges close to one another and police gathering outside food joints

These are simply examples of others bending the rules to make them fit

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By *eiaorganaWoman
over a year ago

Dundee


"My pal went to a beach with her dog which is 15 minutes from her house. She got stopped by the police and fined. I would say it's a no "

It seems that various police forces are following different guidelines, I wonder why? Shouldn't they all have the same rules?

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By *oldswarriorMan
over a year ago

Falkirk


"There is a country park and woods a 5 min drive from us, or the river is the same distance. We either go there or to woods a little further away, about 20 mins.

We live in the middle of a housing estate, there are more people walking the streets than at these places, with the exception of the river which can have pockets of people at points, so we try to minimise that as much as possible.

The health secretary has been on tv saying this is ok as long as common sense is used, so until that direction is rescinded we will do this for our daily exercise.

The police and the government need to clarify their message and work as one. The majority of us are social distancing as much as possible, unlike the police and crowds on london bridge last night doing their clap

The advice and guidelines are clear. Essential travel only. Driving 20 miles for a walk in the woods isn't essential. "

But the guidelines state-

1.Exercise - What is allowed:

Driving to countryside and walking (where far more time is spent walking than driving).

2.Exercise - What isn't allowed:

Driving for a prolonged period with only brief exercise.

So if you live in the city, driving to the countryside and spending more time walking or exercising is OK as that's what the guidelines state in rule 1.

The second rule could cancel its self out as conflicts with the first rule.

Driving for prolonged periods.

Even if the journey takes more than 20mins technically it could be justified as you would be complying with rule 1.

Totally open to individual interpretation.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

You have to ask yourself what is the object of the guidelines - is it just to simply stop unnecessary journeys, or is it to prevent unnecessary journeys that lead people coming into contact with one another?

I'd say the latter, therefore if where you normally exercise/walk your dog means you are more likely to come into contact with other persons, then going somewhere quieter actually becomes a necessary journey.

Surely common sense applies here - why stick strictly to the word of the guidelines if it means coming into contact with dozens of folk, when you can avoid it by bending the guidelines slightly to have a safer outcome.

I get it, but its a bit bloody pedantic. It'd be very different if you are heading off tens of miles to go somewhere that is a beehive of activity, but if its just down the road to an isolated spot more power to you.

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By *edeWoman
over a year ago

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"My pal went to a beach with her dog which is 15 minutes from her house. She got stopped by the police and fined. I would say it's a no

It seems that various police forces are following different guidelines, I wonder why? Shouldn't they all have the same rules? "

Unfortunately I think its because the 'rules' leave a lot of room for interpretation meaning that a lot of forces don't feel they can be strict with it. We do not have a lockdown anything like Italy etc. The majority of people are doing the best they can in the situation they have

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By *eiaorganaWoman
over a year ago

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"My pal went to a beach with her dog which is 15 minutes from her house. She got stopped by the police and fined. I would say it's a no

It seems that various police forces are following different guidelines, I wonder why? Shouldn't they all have the same rules?

Unfortunately I think its because the 'rules' leave a lot of room for interpretation meaning that a lot of forces don't feel they can be strict with it. We do not have a lockdown anything like Italy etc. The majority of people are doing the best they can in the situation they have "

I hadn't even noticed the rainbow emoji!

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By *oldswarriorMan
over a year ago

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"You have to ask yourself what is the object of the guidelines - is it just to simply stop unnecessary journeys, or is it to prevent unnecessary journeys that lead people coming into contact with one another?

I'd say the latter, therefore if where you normally exercise/walk your dog means you are more likely to come into contact with other persons, then going somewhere quieter actually becomes a necessary journey.

Surely common sense applies here - why stick strictly to the word of the guidelines if it means coming into contact with dozens of folk, when you can avoid it by bending the guidelines slightly to have a safer outcome.

I get it, but its a bit bloody pedantic. It'd be very different if you are heading off tens of miles to go somewhere that is a beehive of activity, but if its just down the road to an isolated spot more power to you."

Just melted my tiny brain jumping between the GOV and SGOV websites and the both have similar guidelines, but you can easily pick holes in both.

Like someone has said above certain police forces are dealing with it differently.

Where i am in Lincolnshire at the moment I've never seen the police since the lock down was put in place.

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By *edeWoman
over a year ago

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"My pal went to a beach with her dog which is 15 minutes from her house. She got stopped by the police and fined. I would say it's a no

It seems that various police forces are following different guidelines, I wonder why? Shouldn't they all have the same rules?

Unfortunately I think its because the 'rules' leave a lot of room for interpretation meaning that a lot of forces don't feel they can be strict with it. We do not have a lockdown anything like Italy etc. The majority of people are doing the best they can in the situation they have

I hadn't even noticed the rainbow emoji!"

It's my new favourite thing

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"There is a country park and woods a 5 min drive from us, or the river is the same distance. We either go there or to woods a little further away, about 20 mins.

We live in the middle of a housing estate, there are more people walking the streets than at these places, with the exception of the river which can have pockets of people at points, so we try to minimise that as much as possible.

The health secretary has been on tv saying this is ok as long as common sense is used, so until that direction is rescinded we will do this for our daily exercise.

The police and the government need to clarify their message and work as one. The majority of us are social distancing as much as possible, unlike the police and crowds on london bridge last night doing their clap

The advice and guidelines are clear. Essential travel only. Driving 20 miles for a walk in the woods isn't essential.

Yes they are, having a walk in the woods is fine if you're staying away from other people, as repeatedly stated by the health secretary.

And I'm not travelling 20 miles "

Apologies,I meant 20 mins, not miles. Still the same though, non essential travel which is advised against. Lots bending the guidelines to suit themselves which is selfish and irresponsible.

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By *exmadcouple42Couple
over a year ago

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It's not just the point of driving somewhere 20 mins away or less to take dogs a walk, accidents happen in cars which will lead to police and ambulance being called out to an accident then possibly needing hospitalised . So something that could be avoided should be.

Its a partial lockdown 3 weeks first now another 3 weeks why? Because people are just not listening and understanding STAY HOME AND STAY SAFE!!!, how hard is that to actually understand

though, it will continues if not much change is happening. Well there another 3 weeks added on, it's not because thing have improved now is it? .

If kids have to stay at home and only allowed out for a wee family walk for one hour then dogs who some class as their babies should to a hour walk is better than nothing for now, kids are used to being out 6 hours a day to now being only allowed out for a hour big adjustment for them so all do the same .

If people don't start listening and actually understanding these rules before we know it it will be full lockdown and no one will be out for any walks, it's that simple.

Not having a go at anyone but we meant to be trying to keep safe at all costs. Means staying off the road unless you have to go for food or to work.

If everyone starts bending a wee rule here and there, it's gonna force full lockdown and then it will get tough for everyone.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Unfortunately if 1 person goes to the beach then everyone wants to go to the beach.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Try reading a paper. It's happening right now. Last week several cars in England have been crushed. Only two in Scotland so far. Seems like stories like this are put in small boxes. As footballers wife's do dressing up or a none talented non person from TV land dose some other things. Gets more news space.

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By *vcarol OP   TV/TS
over a year ago

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To everyone that has replied thank you for your opinion.

I have not nor intend to go to the beach.

But to give you some other information.

Where I stay the surrounding streets are that busy the local residents association is asking people to jog/ walk in the respective pavement as per road vehicles, to minimise potential contact.

Yes it’s that busy.

The nearby parks are heavily policed,

The highlight of my week is painting my toenails and going to Tesco,

I have been working from home for what will be 6 weeks - tho work has ceased - I am now working on a start up programme for return to work. So I’ll be patient and wait for normality to return as there’s allegedly light at the end of the tunnel.

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By *oldswarriorMan
over a year ago

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"Try reading a paper. It's happening right now. Last week several cars in England have been crushed. Only two in Scotland so far. Seems like stories like this are put in small boxes. As footballers wife's do dressing up or a none talented non person from TV land dose some other things. Gets more news space. "

You were asked for link so we could have a look at what you were claiming.

You still haven't done that.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Am not here to send you like to the news. Look for yourself not like you have no time

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Am not here to send you like to the news. Look for yourself not like you have no time "

Bet you can't even tell what numbers are being stoped and find daily. Yet it's available in press and online.

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By *oldswarriorMan
over a year ago

Falkirk


"Am not here to send you like to the news. Look for yourself not like you have no time "

I only asked for link so you prove your claims as I was interested in the story and wanted to see for myself.

Obviously you have now took the huff because you have been proven a Billy bullshitter.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Clown grow up. Am not taking your hand to a story. You should be old enough to go look for yourself. God some guys give up a bad name ladies. I see now what you mean.

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By *exmadcouple42Couple
over a year ago

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Links are not needed if people understand what STAY HOME AND STAY SAFE mean, essential journeys only such as work and food shopping.

Even shopping for kids birthday presents isn't essential right now, people are having to order things like this online or pick them up when out essential shopping.

Everyones routines and lifestyle has changed, to get this virus to buggery, the quicker the better.

Links and guidelines are everywhere and been posted on other forums too, even insurance companies are now changing things.

"Drivers who make non-essential journeys could void their insurance, UK top lawyer warns"

So best to check insurance before getting behind the wheel. Its on RAC website and few other car insurance websites etc... Probably best to check as some state.....

"Essential travel is largely defined as shopping for necessities, picking up medical suppliers, caring for a vulnerable person and getting to and from work if you cannot do so from home.

"Anything else is not really acceptable so if you have an accident and cannot prove that your journey was essential your insurance may be void."

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By *oldswarriorMan
over a year ago

Falkirk


"Clown grow up. Am not taking your hand to a story. You should be old enough to go look for yourself. God some guys give up a bad name ladies. I see now what you mean."

Your original post-

Driving to any place even to walk is a no no. Ask the drivers last weekend in a car park near a wood. All thirty cars in the area got a fined. Two had there card even taken if them. Having to use public transport to get home. Cars are for work if you can't work at home plus Shopping. If you breakdown. Your reported to police by AA, RAC, green flag, another's. If your in an accident courts are saying you could end up no car (crushed) and no licence. Big risk for a walk ?

So a car par park near a wood, all 30 cars were fined. For what?

2 of them had there car taken from them. Seized by the police?

If you breakdown the AA, RAC and Green Flag will report you to the police. No announcements on any of the there websites.

If you are in an accident courts are saying you could end up with no car and no licence. What courts , sheriff Court, High Court, Tennis Court.

I was going to say you couldn't make this up, but clearly you did.

I will let you proceed with profanities and insults

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over a year ago

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By *exmadcouple42Couple
over a year ago

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"Clown grow up. Am not taking your hand to a story. You should be old enough to go look for yourself. God some guys give up a bad name ladies. I see now what you mean.

Your original post-

Driving to any place even to walk is a no no. Ask the drivers last weekend in a car park near a wood. All thirty cars in the area got a fined. Two had there card even taken if them. Having to use public transport to get home. Cars are for work if you can't work at home plus Shopping. If you breakdown. Your reported to police by AA, RAC, green flag, another's. If your in an accident courts are saying you could end up no car (crushed) and no licence. Big risk for a walk ?

So a car par park near a wood, all 30 cars were fined. For what?

2 of them had there car taken from them. Seized by the police?

If you breakdown the AA, RAC and Green Flag will report you to the police. No announcements on any of the there websites.

If you are in an accident courts are saying you could end up with no car and no licence. What courts , sheriff Court, High Court, Tennis Court.

I was going to say you couldn't make this up, but clearly you did.

I will let you proceed with profanities and insults "

Its the insurance companies you have to contact. He actually never made that up as it was also on my news notifications on my browser last night. However I don't believe the media news so I looked into this myself and it is actually happening. So best people check thier own insurance company.

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By *oldswarriorMan
over a year ago

Falkirk


"Links are not needed if people understand what STAY HOME AND STAY SAFE mean, essential journeys only such as work and food shopping.

Even shopping for kids birthday presents isn't essential right now, people are having to order things like this online or pick them up when out essential shopping.

Everyones routines and lifestyle has changed, to get this virus to buggery, the quicker the better.

Links and guidelines are everywhere and been posted on other forums too, even insurance companies are now changing things.

"Drivers who make non-essential journeys could void their insurance, UK top lawyer warns"

So best to check insurance before getting behind the wheel. Its on RAC website and few other car insurance websites etc... Probably best to check as some state.....

"Essential travel is largely defined as shopping for necessities, picking up medical suppliers, caring for a vulnerable person and getting to and from work if you cannot do so from home.

"Anything else is not really acceptable so if you have an accident and cannot prove that your journey was essential your insurance may be void.""

I totally agree with everything you said.

Its people who scare monger and exaggerate facts stating that XYZ will happen they are stopped and checked.

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By *oldswarriorMan
over a year ago

Falkirk


"Clown grow up. Am not taking your hand to a story. You should be old enough to go look for yourself. God some guys give up a bad name ladies. I see now what you mean.

Your original post-

Driving to any place even to walk is a no no. Ask the drivers last weekend in a car park near a wood. All thirty cars in the area got a fined. Two had there card even taken if them. Having to use public transport to get home. Cars are for work if you can't work at home plus Shopping. If you breakdown. Your reported to police by AA, RAC, green flag, another's. If your in an accident courts are saying you could end up no car (crushed) and no licence. Big risk for a walk ?

So a car par park near a wood, all 30 cars were fined. For what?

2 of them had there car taken from them. Seized by the police?

If you breakdown the AA, RAC and Green Flag will report you to the police. No announcements on any of the there websites.

If you are in an accident courts are saying you could end up with no car and no licence. What courts , sheriff Court, High Court, Tennis Court.

I was going to say you couldn't make this up, but clearly you did.

I will let you proceed with profanities and insults

Its the insurance companies you have to contact. He actually never made that up as it was also on my news notifications on my browser last night. However I don't believe the media news so I looked into this myself and it is actually happening. So best people check thier own insurance company.

"

Just checked with Admiral.

They have quite an extensive few pages detailing what to during the pandemic.

Nothing says my insurance will be null and void if i use my vehicle, unless it is out of road worthy condition and does not have a valid MOT or Road fund licence.

If I have an accident I will be subject to the standard policy procedures.

So it would be the police that make decision on how to prosecute.

Which is correct.

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By *exmadcouple42Couple
over a year ago

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"Clown grow up. Am not taking your hand to a story. You should be old enough to go look for yourself. God some guys give up a bad name ladies. I see now what you mean.

Your original post-

Driving to any place even to walk is a no no. Ask the drivers last weekend in a car park near a wood. All thirty cars in the area got a fined. Two had there card even taken if them. Having to use public transport to get home. Cars are for work if you can't work at home plus Shopping. If you breakdown. Your reported to police by AA, RAC, green flag, another's. If your in an accident courts are saying you could end up no car (crushed) and no licence. Big risk for a walk ?

So a car par park near a wood, all 30 cars were fined. For what?

2 of them had there car taken from them. Seized by the police?

If you breakdown the AA, RAC and Green Flag will report you to the police. No announcements on any of the there websites.

If you are in an accident courts are saying you could end up with no car and no licence. What courts , sheriff Court, High Court, Tennis Court.

I was going to say you couldn't make this up, but clearly you did.

I will let you proceed with profanities and insults

Its the insurance companies you have to contact. He actually never made that up as it was also on my news notifications on my browser last night. However I don't believe the media news so I looked into this myself and it is actually happening. So best people check thier own insurance company.

Just checked with Admiral.

They have quite an extensive few pages detailing what to during the pandemic.

Nothing says my insurance will be null and void if i use my vehicle, unless it is out of road worthy condition and does not have a valid MOT or Road fund licence.

If I have an accident I will be subject to the standard policy procedures.

So it would be the police that make decision on how to prosecute.

Which is correct.

"

https://www.directline.com/covid

As of 17th April 2020.

The Foreign and Commonwealth office (FCO) has now extended the advice against all but essential travel for the foreseeable future. A claim under your travel insurance can only be considered if you are due to travel in the next 28 days. We can’t provide any advice on trips that are due to start more than 28 days in the future - this is because the FCO advice can change at any time.

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By *exmadcouple42Couple
over a year ago

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"Clown grow up. Am not taking your hand to a story. You should be old enough to go look for yourself. God some guys give up a bad name ladies. I see now what you mean.

Your original post-

Driving to any place even to walk is a no no. Ask the drivers last weekend in a car park near a wood. All thirty cars in the area got a fined. Two had there card even taken if them. Having to use public transport to get home. Cars are for work if you can't work at home plus Shopping. If you breakdown. Your reported to police by AA, RAC, green flag, another's. If your in an accident courts are saying you could end up no car (crushed) and no licence. Big risk for a walk ?

So a car par park near a wood, all 30 cars were fined. For what?

2 of them had there car taken from them. Seized by the police?

If you breakdown the AA, RAC and Green Flag will report you to the police. No announcements on any of the there websites.

If you are in an accident courts are saying you could end up with no car and no licence. What courts , sheriff Court, High Court, Tennis Court.

I was going to say you couldn't make this up, but clearly you did.

I will let you proceed with profanities and insults

Its the insurance companies you have to contact. He actually never made that up as it was also on my news notifications on my browser last night. However I don't believe the media news so I looked into this myself and it is actually happening. So best people check thier own insurance company.

Just checked with Admiral.

They have quite an extensive few pages detailing what to during the pandemic.

Nothing says my insurance will be null and void if i use my vehicle, unless it is out of road worthy condition and does not have a valid MOT or Road fund licence.

If I have an accident I will be subject to the standard policy procedures.

So it would be the police that make decision on how to prosecute.

Which is correct.

https://www.directline.com/covid

As of 17th April 2020.

The Foreign and Commonwealth office (FCO) has now extended the advice against all but essential travel for the foreseeable future. A claim under your travel insurance can only be considered if you are due to travel in the next 28 days. We can’t provide any advice on trips that are due to start more than 28 days in the future - this is because the FCO advice can change at any time. "

Some insurance have the corvid 19 yellow warning page up with guidelines of fco. Just make sure it's been updated.

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By *oldswarriorMan
over a year ago

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"Clown grow up. Am not taking your hand to a story. You should be old enough to go look for yourself. God some guys give up a bad name ladies. I see now what you mean.

Your original post-

Driving to any place even to walk is a no no. Ask the drivers last weekend in a car park near a wood. All thirty cars in the area got a fined. Two had there card even taken if them. Having to use public transport to get home. Cars are for work if you can't work at home plus Shopping. If you breakdown. Your reported to police by AA, RAC, green flag, another's. If your in an accident courts are saying you could end up no car (crushed) and no licence. Big risk for a walk ?

So a car par park near a wood, all 30 cars were fined. For what?

2 of them had there car taken from them. Seized by the police?

If you breakdown the AA, RAC and Green Flag will report you to the police. No announcements on any of the there websites.

If you are in an accident courts are saying you could end up with no car and no licence. What courts , sheriff Court, High Court, Tennis Court.

I was going to say you couldn't make this up, but clearly you did.

I will let you proceed with profanities and insults

Its the insurance companies you have to contact. He actually never made that up as it was also on my news notifications on my browser last night. However I don't believe the media news so I looked into this myself and it is actually happening. So best people check thier own insurance company.

Just checked with Admiral.

They have quite an extensive few pages detailing what to during the pandemic.

Nothing says my insurance will be null and void if i use my vehicle, unless it is out of road worthy condition and does not have a valid MOT or Road fund licence.

If I have an accident I will be subject to the standard policy procedures.

So it would be the police that make decision on how to prosecute.

Which is correct.

https://www.directline.com/covid

As of 17th April 2020.

The Foreign and Commonwealth office (FCO) has now extended the advice against all but essential travel for the foreseeable future. A claim under your travel insurance can only be considered if you are due to travel in the next 28 days. We can’t provide any advice on trips that are due to start more than 28 days in the future - this is because the FCO advice can change at any time. "

Is that not just for travel insurance?

The FCO are the advisors to the UK goverment.

I don't think this relates to vehicle insurance.

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By *assy LassieWoman
over a year ago

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"Clown grow up. Am not taking your hand to a story. You should be old enough to go look for yourself. God some guys give up a bad name ladies. I see now what you mean.

Your original post-

Driving to any place even to walk is a no no. Ask the drivers last weekend in a car park near a wood. All thirty cars in the area got a fined. Two had there card even taken if them. Having to use public transport to get home. Cars are for work if you can't work at home plus Shopping. If you breakdown. Your reported to police by AA, RAC, green flag, another's. If your in an accident courts are saying you could end up no car (crushed) and no licence. Big risk for a walk ?

So a car par park near a wood, all 30 cars were fined. For what?

2 of them had there car taken from them. Seized by the police?

If you breakdown the AA, RAC and Green Flag will report you to the police. No announcements on any of the there websites.

If you are in an accident courts are saying you could end up with no car and no licence. What courts , sheriff Court, High Court, Tennis Court.

I was going to say you couldn't make this up, but clearly you did.

I will let you proceed with profanities and insults

Its the insurance companies you have to contact. He actually never made that up as it was also on my news notifications on my browser last night. However I don't believe the media news so I looked into this myself and it is actually happening. So best people check thier own insurance company.

Just checked with Admiral.

They have quite an extensive few pages detailing what to during the pandemic.

Nothing says my insurance will be null and void if i use my vehicle, unless it is out of road worthy condition and does not have a valid MOT or Road fund licence.

If I have an accident I will be subject to the standard policy procedures.

So it would be the police that make decision on how to prosecute.

Which is correct.

https://www.directline.com/covid

As of 17th April 2020.

The Foreign and Commonwealth office (FCO) has now extended the advice against all but essential travel for the foreseeable future. A claim under your travel insurance can only be considered if you are due to travel in the next 28 days. We can’t provide any advice on trips that are due to start more than 28 days in the future - this is because the FCO advice can change at any time. "

That's TRAVEL INSURANCE not car insurance .

This is not aimed at a tone in particular.

Wish folk would stop claiming to be the know it all on every subject. We are in a pandemic. None of us have been in this situation before. We have guidelines. We are adults a d nine of us are stupid but doing our best to navigate through tough times. Bitching on here about walking a dog and driving your car doesnt help. Spouting headlines from newspapers doesnt help. What happened to be kind.

Some folk need to get off their high horse.

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By *exmadcouple42Couple
over a year ago

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"Clown grow up. Am not taking your hand to a story. You should be old enough to go look for yourself. God some guys give up a bad name ladies. I see now what you mean.

Your original post-

Driving to any place even to walk is a no no. Ask the drivers last weekend in a car park near a wood. All thirty cars in the area got a fined. Two had there card even taken if them. Having to use public transport to get home. Cars are for work if you can't work at home plus Shopping. If you breakdown. Your reported to police by AA, RAC, green flag, another's. If your in an accident courts are saying you could end up no car (crushed) and no licence. Big risk for a walk ?

So a car par park near a wood, all 30 cars were fined. For what?

2 of them had there car taken from them. Seized by the police?

If you breakdown the AA, RAC and Green Flag will report you to the police. No announcements on any of the there websites.

If you are in an accident courts are saying you could end up with no car and no licence. What courts , sheriff Court, High Court, Tennis Court.

I was going to say you couldn't make this up, but clearly you did.

I will let you proceed with profanities and insults

Its the insurance companies you have to contact. He actually never made that up as it was also on my news notifications on my browser last night. However I don't believe the media news so I looked into this myself and it is actually happening. So best people check thier own insurance company.

Just checked with Admiral.

They have quite an extensive few pages detailing what to during the pandemic.

Nothing says my insurance will be null and void if i use my vehicle, unless it is out of road worthy condition and does not have a valid MOT or Road fund licence.

If I have an accident I will be subject to the standard policy procedures.

So it would be the police that make decision on how to prosecute.

Which is correct.

https://www.directline.com/covid

As of 17th April 2020.

The Foreign and Commonwealth office (FCO) has now extended the advice against all but essential travel for the foreseeable future. A claim under your travel insurance can only be considered if you are due to travel in the next 28 days. We can’t provide any advice on trips that are due to start more than 28 days in the future - this is because the FCO advice can change at any time.

That's TRAVEL INSURANCE not car insurance .

This is not aimed at a tone in particular.

Wish folk would stop claiming to be the know it all on every subject. We are in a pandemic. None of us have been in this situation before. We have guidelines. We are adults a d nine of us are stupid but doing our best to navigate through tough times. Bitching on here about walking a dog and driving your car doesnt help. Spouting headlines from newspapers doesnt help. What happened to be kind.

Some folk need to get off their high horse.

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Sorry copied wrong one hadn't copied link the second time

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By *entralscotscpl7Couple
over a year ago

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I have to agree there is some amount of speculating that goes on in here.

Being a pandemic there is only one thing to really talk about which has been done to death now.

People add wee bits here and there to make their own experience different from everyone else.

January even February nobody would have given a toss about how many times Margaret has been out with the dog.

Or the fact you could go to the toilet in the knowledge that there was loo roll beside you.

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By *exmadcouple42Couple
over a year ago

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"Clown grow up. Am not taking your hand to a story. You should be old enough to go look for yourself. God some guys give up a bad name ladies. I see now what you mean.

Your original post-

Driving to any place even to walk is a no no. Ask the drivers last weekend in a car park near a wood. All thirty cars in the area got a fined. Two had there card even taken if them. Having to use public transport to get home. Cars are for work if you can't work at home plus Shopping. If you breakdown. Your reported to police by AA, RAC, green flag, another's. If your in an accident courts are saying you could end up no car (crushed) and no licence. Big risk for a walk ?

So a car par park near a wood, all 30 cars were fined. For what?

2 of them had there car taken from them. Seized by the police?

If you breakdown the AA, RAC and Green Flag will report you to the police. No announcements on any of the there websites.

If you are in an accident courts are saying you could end up with no car and no licence. What courts , sheriff Court, High Court, Tennis Court.

I was going to say you couldn't make this up, but clearly you did.

I will let you proceed with profanities and insults

Its the insurance companies you have to contact. He actually never made that up as it was also on my news notifications on my browser last night. However I don't believe the media news so I looked into this myself and it is actually happening. So best people check thier own insurance company.

Just checked with Admiral.

They have quite an extensive few pages detailing what to during the pandemic.

Nothing says my insurance will be null and void if i use my vehicle, unless it is out of road worthy condition and does not have a valid MOT or Road fund licence.

If I have an accident I will be subject to the standard policy procedures.

So it would be the police that make decision on how to prosecute.

Which is correct.

https://www.directline.com/covid

As of 17th April 2020.

The Foreign and Commonwealth office (FCO) has now extended the advice against all but essential travel for the foreseeable future. A claim under your travel insurance can only be considered if you are due to travel in the next 28 days. We can’t provide any advice on trips that are due to start more than 28 days in the future - this is because the FCO advice can change at any time.

That's TRAVEL INSURANCE not car insurance .

This is not aimed at a tone in particular.

Wish folk would stop claiming to be the know it all on every subject. We are in a pandemic. None of us have been in this situation before. We have guidelines. We are adults a d nine of us are stupid but doing our best to navigate through tough times. Bitching on here about walking a dog and driving your car doesnt help. Spouting headlines from newspapers doesnt help. What happened to be kind.

Some folk need to get off their high horse.

"

https://www.admiral.com/coronavirus#

There are things in place re coronavirus with most car insurance companies. Questions are being asked and answered by the insurance companies, my info wasn't from news it was from an actual insurance company after checking what was stated on all the news papers, double checking.

You've accused someone of making things up, no one made this up we are seeing and hearing and looking at things that are being said, printed and advised.

Why would you think for a minute insurances companies wouldn't have something in place when everything else has changed, how else will they reduce drivers driving about uneccessarily .

If someone is just driving about for no reason other than pleasure and has an accident, then they are entitled to be covered?? , i think not not when it states otherwise.

No one was on high horse. Its frustrating when some think Stay home and Stay safe doesn't mean just that, if we are asked to do this to prevent further deaths then isn't this what everyone should be doing not just some who think rules don't apply to them.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Clown grow up. Am not taking your hand to a story. You should be old enough to go look for yourself. God some guys give up a bad name ladies. I see now what you mean.

Your original post-

Driving to any place even to walk is a no no. Ask the drivers last weekend in a car park near a wood. All thirty cars in the area got a fined. Two had there card even taken if them. Having to use public transport to get home. Cars are for work if you can't work at home plus Shopping. If you breakdown. Your reported to police by AA, RAC, green flag, another's. If your in an accident courts are saying you could end up no car (crushed) and no licence. Big risk for a walk ?

So a car par park near a wood, all 30 cars were fined. For what?

2 of them had there car taken from them. Seized by the police?

If you breakdown the AA, RAC and Green Flag will report you to the police. No announcements on any of the there websites.

If you are in an accident courts are saying you could end up with no car and no licence. What courts , sheriff Court, High Court, Tennis Court.

I was going to say you couldn't make this up, but clearly you did.

I will let you proceed with profanities and insults

Its the insurance companies you have to contact. He actually never made that up as it was also on my news notifications on my browser last night. However I don't believe the media news so I looked into this myself and it is actually happening. So best people check thier own insurance company.

Just checked with Admiral.

They have quite an extensive few pages detailing what to during the pandemic.

Nothing says my insurance will be null and void if i use my vehicle, unless it is out of road worthy condition and does not have a valid MOT or Road fund licence.

If I have an accident I will be subject to the standard policy procedures.

So it would be the police that make decision on how to prosecute.

Which is correct.

https://www.directline.com/covid

As of 17th April 2020.

The Foreign and Commonwealth office (FCO) has now extended the advice against all but essential travel for the foreseeable future. A claim under your travel insurance can only be considered if you are due to travel in the next 28 days. We can’t provide any advice on trips that are due to start more than 28 days in the future - this is because the FCO advice can change at any time.

That's TRAVEL INSURANCE not car insurance .

This is not aimed at a tone in particular.

Wish folk would stop claiming to be the know it all on every subject. We are in a pandemic. None of us have been in this situation before. We have guidelines. We are adults a d nine of us are stupid but doing our best to navigate through tough times. Bitching on here about walking a dog and driving your car doesnt help. Spouting headlines from newspapers doesnt help. What happened to be kind.

Some folk need to get off their high horse.

https://www.admiral.com/coronavirus#

There are things in place re coronavirus with most car insurance companies. Questions are being asked and answered by the insurance companies, my info wasn't from news it was from an actual insurance company after checking what was stated on all the news papers, double checking.

You've accused someone of making things up, no one made this up we are seeing and hearing and looking at things that are being said, printed and advised.

Why would you think for a minute insurances companies wouldn't have something in place when everything else has changed, how else will they reduce drivers driving about uneccessarily .

If someone is just driving about for no reason other than pleasure and has an accident, then they are entitled to be covered?? , i think not not when it states otherwise.

No one was on high horse. Its frustrating when some think Stay home and Stay safe doesn't mean just that, if we are asked to do this to prevent further deaths then isn't this what everyone should be doing not just some who think rules don't apply to them. "

You really need to read up. You can not drive to even exercise your dog. Yes read. I have seen some of the comments. It shows a lack of understanding that as a Scotsman. I could only hope was for the nation over the pond. Some of the personal acts. Are really not called for. Am not here to tell you what to do. You have your own family and friends and concentration to think of. Health comes first. If you don't know the facts. Go look them up. It's not BS. It's real. I have friends one just out of hospital another on a ventilator as I text. I lost friends to aids. I am now seeing others go for just standing next to someone. It's that simple. If you can't understand that. Then I feel sorry for you. Yes information is there. The story is true. I work long hours and can tell you. It makes me angry that you think it's some kind of game. I don't know how I feel just now. Angry is easy as I want to bang heads. But really just stop think. Stop again and think. Two minutes is all it takes. We are Scottish we are better than this. Am proud of my nation and its hard working foke.

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By *assy LassieWoman
over a year ago

Lanarkshire


"Clown grow up. Am not taking your hand to a story. You should be old enough to go look for yourself. God some guys give up a bad name ladies. I see now what you mean.

Your original post-

Driving to any place even to walk is a no no. Ask the drivers last weekend in a car park near a wood. All thirty cars in the area got a fined. Two had there card even taken if them. Having to use public transport to get home. Cars are for work if you can't work at home plus Shopping. If you breakdown. Your reported to police by AA, RAC, green flag, another's. If your in an accident courts are saying you could end up no car (crushed) and no licence. Big risk for a walk ?

So a car par park near a wood, all 30 cars were fined. For what?

2 of them had there car taken from them. Seized by the police?

If you breakdown the AA, RAC and Green Flag will report you to the police. No announcements on any of the there websites.

If you are in an accident courts are saying you could end up with no car and no licence. What courts , sheriff Court, High Court, Tennis Court.

I was going to say you couldn't make this up, but clearly you did.

I will let you proceed with profanities and insults

Its the insurance companies you have to contact. He actually never made that up as it was also on my news notifications on my browser last night. However I don't believe the media news so I looked into this myself and it is actually happening. So best people check thier own insurance company.

Just checked with Admiral.

They have quite an extensive few pages detailing what to during the pandemic.

Nothing says my insurance will be null and void if i use my vehicle, unless it is out of road worthy condition and does not have a valid MOT or Road fund licence.

If I have an accident I will be subject to the standard policy procedures.

So it would be the police that make decision on how to prosecute.

Which is correct.

https://www.directline.com/covid

As of 17th April 2020.

The Foreign and Commonwealth office (FCO) has now extended the advice against all but essential travel for the foreseeable future. A claim under your travel insurance can only be considered if you are due to travel in the next 28 days. We can’t provide any advice on trips that are due to start more than 28 days in the future - this is because the FCO advice can change at any time.

That's TRAVEL INSURANCE not car insurance .

This is not aimed at a tone in particular.

Wish folk would stop claiming to be the know it all on every subject. We are in a pandemic. None of us have been in this situation before. We have guidelines. We are adults a d nine of us are stupid but doing our best to navigate through tough times. Bitching on here about walking a dog and driving your car doesnt help. Spouting headlines from newspapers doesnt help. What happened to be kind.

Some folk need to get off their high horse.

https://www.admiral.com/coronavirus#

There are things in place re coronavirus with most car insurance companies. Questions are being asked and answered by the insurance companies, my info wasn't from news it was from an actual insurance company after checking what was stated on all the news papers, double checking.

You've accused someone of making things up, no one made this up we are seeing and hearing and looking at things that are being said, printed and advised.

Why would you think for a minute insurances companies wouldn't have something in place when everything else has changed, how else will they reduce drivers driving about uneccessarily .

If someone is just driving about for no reason other than pleasure and has an accident, then they are entitled to be covered?? , i think not not when it states otherwise.

No one was on high horse. Its frustrating when some think Stay home and Stay safe doesn't mean just that, if we are asked to do this to prevent further deaths then isn't this what everyone should be doing not just some who think rules don't apply to them. "

My post wasnt aimed at you in particular. There were numerous posts where people have put their own twist on the rules to suit themselves on both sides of the debate. Stop being so defensive. I am not stupid enough to no realise that every industry has had to make adjustments to their service or provision. I think you will find it's an opinion that the insurances wont pay out. This has not been advised or confirmed across the board so it is unhelpful to sensationalise this information. Exactly the same as taking the rules to a literal black and white. Everyone has their own way of coping. We shouldn't judge people who are using common sense ffs. I'm absolutely correct in saying I and everyone else are still allowed to think for ourselves and protect ourselves from unnecessary risk.

And just to be clear I am not bending any rules am staying home and keeping safe. We were in lockdown before the government advice so have basically been in for 5 weeks. Maybe this has made me a little cranky with all the pish and misinformation spouted all over social media but heyho we all have opinions, but that is exactly what they are, opinions. Ramming them down folks throats is more likely to polarise those opinions than gain consensus, again an opinion.

I'm saying no more on this as I know you like to get the last word so you are welcome to it. Stay safe

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By *vcarol OP   TV/TS
over a year ago

kilmarnockish

If it wasn’t for social distancing, I’d say let’s have a group hug.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The army are preparing to come onto the streets and cars are being crushed if you believe what you read on fab

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By *entralscotscpl7Couple
over a year ago

Falkirk


"Clown grow up. Am not taking your hand to a story. You should be old enough to go look for yourself. God some guys give up a bad name ladies. I see now what you mean.

Your original post-

Driving to any place even to walk is a no no. Ask the drivers last weekend in a car park near a wood. All thirty cars in the area got a fined. Two had there card even taken if them. Having to use public transport to get home. Cars are for work if you can't work at home plus Shopping. If you breakdown. Your reported to police by AA, RAC, green flag, another's. If your in an accident courts are saying you could end up no car (crushed) and no licence. Big risk for a walk ?

So a car par park near a wood, all 30 cars were fined. For what?

2 of them had there car taken from them. Seized by the police?

If you breakdown the AA, RAC and Green Flag will report you to the police. No announcements on any of the there websites.

If you are in an accident courts are saying you could end up with no car and no licence. What courts , sheriff Court, High Court, Tennis Court.

I was going to say you couldn't make this up, but clearly you did.

I will let you proceed with profanities and insults

Its the insurance companies you have to contact. He actually never made that up as it was also on my news notifications on my browser last night. However I don't believe the media news so I looked into this myself and it is actually happening. So best people check thier own insurance company.

Just checked with Admiral.

They have quite an extensive few pages detailing what to during the pandemic.

Nothing says my insurance will be null and void if i use my vehicle, unless it is out of road worthy condition and does not have a valid MOT or Road fund licence.

If I have an accident I will be subject to the standard policy procedures.

So it would be the police that make decision on how to prosecute.

Which is correct.

https://www.directline.com/covid

As of 17th April 2020.

The Foreign and Commonwealth office (FCO) has now extended the advice against all but essential travel for the foreseeable future. A claim under your travel insurance can only be considered if you are due to travel in the next 28 days. We can’t provide any advice on trips that are due to start more than 28 days in the future - this is because the FCO advice can change at any time.

That's TRAVEL INSURANCE not car insurance .

This is not aimed at a tone in particular.

Wish folk would stop claiming to be the know it all on every subject. We are in a pandemic. None of us have been in this situation before. We have guidelines. We are adults a d nine of us are stupid but doing our best to navigate through tough times. Bitching on here about walking a dog and driving your car doesnt help. Spouting headlines from newspapers doesnt help. What happened to be kind.

Some folk need to get off their high horse.

https://www.admiral.com/coronavirus#

There are things in place re coronavirus with most car insurance companies. Questions are being asked and answered by the insurance companies, my info wasn't from news it was from an actual insurance company after checking what was stated on all the news papers, double checking.

You've accused someone of making things up, no one made this up we are seeing and hearing and looking at things that are being said, printed and advised.

Why would you think for a minute insurances companies wouldn't have something in place when everything else has changed, how else will they reduce drivers driving about uneccessarily .

If someone is just driving about for no reason other than pleasure and has an accident, then they are entitled to be covered?? , i think not not when it states otherwise.

No one was on high horse. Its frustrating when some think Stay home and Stay safe doesn't mean just that, if we are asked to do this to prevent further deaths then isn't this what everyone should be doing not just some who think rules don't apply to them.

You really need to read up. You can not drive to even exercise your dog. Yes read. I have seen some of the comments. It shows a lack of understanding that as a Scotsman. I could only hope was for the nation over the pond. Some of the personal acts. Are really not called for. Am not here to tell you what to do. You have your own family and friends and concentration to think of. Health comes first. If you don't know the facts. Go look them up. It's not BS. It's real. I have friends one just out of hospital another on a ventilator as I text. I lost friends to aids. I am now seeing others go for just standing next to someone. It's that simple. If you can't understand that. Then I feel sorry for you. Yes information is there. The story is true. I work long hours and can tell you. It makes me angry that you think it's some kind of game. I don't know how I feel just now. Angry is easy as I want to bang heads. But really just stop think. Stop again and think. Two minutes is all it takes. We are Scottish we are better than this. Am proud of my nation and its hard working foke. "

You really need to stop going on the offensive.

You are coming across as very condescending with your comment that everyone needs to read up as us Scots folks have a lack of understanding.

Most people are well aware of the situation and have read up on the facts hence why you got picked out for your earlier posts.

People will break the rules its going to happen unfortunately.

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By *entralscotscpl7Couple
over a year ago

Falkirk


"The army are preparing to come onto the streets and cars are being crushed if you believe what you read on fab "

My son was moved down to Redford three weeks ago in preparation for public order duties.

They have been stood down since their arrival.

The last briefing he got was yesterday afternoon and they told him they might be returning to their units.

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By *esparate danMan
over a year ago

glasgow

Does anyone actually want a shag after this

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The army are preparing to come onto the streets and cars are being crushed if you believe what you read on fab

My son was moved down to Redford three weeks ago in preparation for public order duties.

They have been stood down since their arrival.

The last briefing he got was yesterday afternoon and they told him they might be returning to their units.

"

It’s defo happening someone gave us the exclusive on here last week

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By *entralscotscpl7Couple
over a year ago

Falkirk

In the voice of Fraser from Dads Army-

Were all doooooomed

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"In the voice of Fraser from Dads Army-

Were all doooooomed "

Showing your age now that was before my time

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By *entralscotscpl7Couple
over a year ago

Falkirk


"In the voice of Fraser from Dads Army-

Were all doooooomed

Showing your age now that was before my time "

Aye. Shit being 42

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The uk government has just opened stanstead airport so fruit pickers can be flown in ,given the incubation period for covad is roughly 2 weeks before symptoms show ,I would say a drive to the beach is bloody right, lockdown my arse

Yes that was shocking to hear.

Not really, fruit pickers have always come from Europe. It’s too filthy for us Brits to pick fruit. If it isn’t picked, it’s going to go to waste and we won’t have any fruit especially important after brexit. I don’t understand why we don’t have all the able bodies collecting govt payouts doing it. It’s actually as much pay as I make per hour as a nurse! "

I have done fruit picking when I was younger ect to be honest it's hard work but hayho. No need to go to the gym you are as fit as a fiddle and I agree no unemployment after brexit fill the jobs good or bad

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By *onkeymagic50Man
over a year ago

Near the harbour

So you can drive for a takeaway,you can drive to b&q which are reopening some stores ,you can drive to the range ,you can now drive a removals van because house sales are allowed to go through ,but you cant drive 20 mins to adhere to social distancing and walk dog ......get a grip of course you can

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I’m looking for opinions.

With the police in England being advised that driving to a deserted place to take valid exercise is allowed, I have this question...

I have a beach which is deserted even on busy warm days. It is 20 mins by car from where I stay. The surrounding streets beside me are filled with joggers/ cyclists/ walkers and although social distancing is possible, it’s a total PIA as it’s busy.

The beach is 4 miles long, there might be 3/4 other people on it with there doggies.

Would the drive to the beach be viewed as unacceptable? At what point would it be acceptable? Is the beach a safer option?"

_vcarol…. yes this is acceptable

Matt Hancock said on Friday 17/04/2020 that going out rules have changed

He stated on news and tv that you can drive to the countryside for a walk as long as the walk takes longer than the drive to get there

so

if your drive is 40 minutes, as long as you walk an hour, its acceptable

you will find this report online as well

so get your ass down to your deserted beach and enjoy your walk

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I can't keep up with all the bloody rule changes!

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By *luebell888Woman
over a year ago

Glasgowish


"I’m looking for opinions.

With the police in England being advised that driving to a deserted place to take valid exercise is allowed, I have this question...

I have a beach which is deserted even on busy warm days. It is 20 mins by car from where I stay. The surrounding streets beside me are filled with joggers/ cyclists/ walkers and although social distancing is possible, it’s a total PIA as it’s busy.

The beach is 4 miles long, there might be 3/4 other people on it with there doggies.

Would the drive to the beach be viewed as unacceptable? At what point would it be acceptable? Is the beach a safer option?

_vcarol…. yes this is acceptable

Matt Hancock said on Friday 17/04/2020 that going out rules have changed

He stated on news and tv that you can drive to the countryside for a walk as long as the walk takes longer than the drive to get there

so

if your drive is 40 minutes, as long as you walk an hour, its acceptable

you will find this report online as well

so get your ass down to your deserted beach and enjoy your walk"

So does someone follow each person to check the walk is longer than the drive?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

...slightly off topic...but can someone come you round and take my neighbour's dog for a walk before I lose my slipper up her hoop.

She's had the poor thing out the back since 8am and it's been barking non fucking stop.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"...slightly off topic...but can someone come you round and take my neighbour's dog for a walk before I lose my slipper up her hoop.

She's had the poor thing out the back since 8am and it's been barking non fucking stop."

That depends how far away from us you are and if we will walk it for longer than it takes to drive to yours

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"...slightly off topic...but can someone come you round and take my neighbour's dog for a walk before I lose my slipper up her hoop.

She's had the poor thing out the back since 8am and it's been barking non fucking stop.

That depends how far away from us you are and if we will walk it for longer than it takes to drive to yours "

I'd be quicker just booting her up the crack of her arse and taking Mutley for his Sunday morning jobbie myself then!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"...slightly off topic...but can someone come you round and take my neighbour's dog for a walk before I lose my slipper up her hoop.

She's had the poor thing out the back since 8am and it's been barking non fucking stop.

That depends how far away from us you are and if we will walk it for longer than it takes to drive to yours

I'd be quicker just booting her up the crack of her arse and taking Mutley for his Sunday morning jobbie myself then!"

Poor dog

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"...slightly off topic...but can someone come you round and take my neighbour's dog for a walk before I lose my slipper up her hoop.

She's had the poor thing out the back since 8am and it's been barking non fucking stop.

That depends how far away from us you are and if we will walk it for longer than it takes to drive to yours

I'd be quicker just booting her up the crack of her arse and taking Mutley for his Sunday morning jobbie myself then!

Poor dog "

Lucky mutt ya mean....he gets to spend Sunday morning with this bitch

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By *oldswarriorMan
over a year ago

Falkirk


"I’m looking for opinions.

With the police in England being advised that driving to a deserted place to take valid exercise is allowed, I have this question...

I have a beach which is deserted even on busy warm days. It is 20 mins by car from where I stay. The surrounding streets beside me are filled with joggers/ cyclists/ walkers and although social distancing is possible, it’s a total PIA as it’s busy.

The beach is 4 miles long, there might be 3/4 other people on it with there doggies.

Would the drive to the beach be viewed as unacceptable? At what point would it be acceptable? Is the beach a safer option?

_vcarol…. yes this is acceptable

Matt Hancock said on Friday 17/04/2020 that going out rules have changed

He stated on news and tv that you can drive to the countryside for a walk as long as the walk takes longer than the drive to get there

so

if your drive is 40 minutes, as long as you walk an hour, its acceptable

you will find this report online as well

so get your ass down to your deserted beach and enjoy your walk"

Do you have a link for this please mate?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Ask zest for life if he will go walk it

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The uk government has just opened stanstead airport so fruit pickers can be flown in ,given the incubation period for covad is roughly 2 weeks before symptoms show ,I would say a drive to the beach is bloody right, lockdown my arse

Yes that was shocking to hear.

Not really, fruit pickers have always come from Europe. It’s too filthy for us Brits to pick fruit. If it isn’t picked, it’s going to go to waste and we won’t have any fruit especially important after brexit. I don’t understand why we don’t have all the able bodies collecting govt payouts doing it. It’s actually as much pay as I make per hour as a nurse!

At this time i am sure many would have been grareful to do this job to earn extra money."

The jobs were posted no one applied the ones who did apply 90%disnt go as far as interview

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If you drive 30 minutes each way to exercise for an hour it's not in line with the new restrictions

If you drive 5 minutes each way to exercise for an hour it's acceptable providing you have just cause for not being bake to exercise within your local area

Ie issues with crowded spaces and you live in a highly populated and busy area, have disabilities and the terrain isn't suitable, have a dog with behavioural issues, are going to beach to do open water swimming, are taking young children cycling and need to avoid dangerous roads etc

If its completely legit and its not just a case of I fancy a nice quiet secluded walk for no other reason than its nicer and the exercise time outweighs the travel its acceptable

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By *eiaorganaWoman
over a year ago

Dundee


"There is a country park and woods a 5 min drive from us, or the river is the same distance. We either go there or to woods a little further away, about 20 mins.

We live in the middle of a housing estate, there are more people walking the streets than at these places, with the exception of the river which can have pockets of people at points, so we try to minimise that as much as possible.

The health secretary has been on tv saying this is ok as long as common sense is used, so until that direction is rescinded we will do this for our daily exercise.

The police and the government need to clarify their message and work as one. The majority of us are social distancing as much as possible, unlike the police and crowds on london bridge last night doing their clap

The advice and guidelines are clear. Essential travel only. Driving 20 miles for a walk in the woods isn't essential.

Yes they are, having a walk in the woods is fine if you're staying away from other people, as repeatedly stated by the health secretary.

And I'm not travelling 20 miles

Apologies,I meant 20 mins, not miles. Still the same though, non essential travel which is advised against. Lots bending the guidelines to suit themselves which is selfish and irresponsible."

https://www.scotsman.com/health/coronavirus/can-i-drive-somewhere-exercise-or-walk-my-dog-uk-lockdown-rules-explained-2519615

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By *ibobbiMan
over a year ago

north lanarkshire

40 mins walking 2hrs playing (at beach) 40 mins home whats your problem we are 70 miles to beach then stopped by the police if we even try to get that far what is your problem there is always someone worse rhan you please just enjoy the beach

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Took the dogs their run in the car for their walk..didnt crash..result!!

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over a year ago

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"Yes I actually know the person who typed it . Ive obviously copy and pasted it from them since I said it was a friend who typed it.

Trust me I know the original poster very well . it's more that few weeks it's been going about.

If your friend typed this more than a few weeks ago can you ask them to consult the crystal ball one more time and tell us all when lockdown will end please. The point 11 about tigers catching covid only broke on the 6th of April only 2 weeks ago, could it be she told you a wee porky ? or do they really have a crystal ball ?. 

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Who said it was a she??? The cat was before april and the tiger was on media before it went to papers 6th April actually, you clearly just go off what's on the news and in papers, top feeds . If you actually check, the questions where being asked about tigers getting infected on the 30th march, 2nd and 5th of April few weeks ago, The bronx zoo tiger was infected before 6th April, they only publisized between the 2nd and 6th april.

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over a year ago

Folk would actually argue about anything on here

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By *exmadcouple42Couple
over a year ago

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"Someone pasted a similar list in the virus thread a few days ago "

Yes it's on twitter, insta, Facebook, its hit on 3k shares so it's reached alot of people worldwide.

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By *exmadcouple42Couple
over a year ago

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I gee up. It was meant to lighten things up better not share the other posts either, people might take offence.

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over a year ago


"Yes I actually know the person who typed it . Ive obviously copy and pasted it from them since I said it was a friend who typed it.

Trust me I know the original poster very well . it's more that few weeks it's been going about.

If your friend typed this more than a few weeks ago can you ask them to consult the crystal ball one more time and tell us all when lockdown will end please. The point 11 about tigers catching covid only broke on the 6th of April only 2 weeks ago, could it be she told you a wee porky ? or do they really have a crystal ball ?. 

Who said it was a she??? The cat was before april and the tiger was on media before it went to papers 6th April actually, you clearly just go off what's on the news and in papers, top feeds . If you actually check, the questions where being asked about tigers getting infected on the 30th march, 2nd and 5th of April few weeks ago, The bronx zoo tiger was infected before 6th April, they only publisized between the 2nd and 6th april.

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My apologies for saying "she" just most clairvoyants are female but point taken.

As for your second part of your post, none of the dates you quoted are over a few weeks so I'm still puzzled.

Or does your friend have a direct contact with the bronx zoo during testing of tigers and even knowledge of a positive test in tigers prior to the dates it was made public. If she knew tigers had tested positive before it was revealed on the media then I'm amazed she typed her list especially point 11 as her way of breaking this very important worldwide news.

I'm afraid it doesn't really ring true.

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By *uboCouple
over a year ago

East kilbride

FFS, Some folk need to get out more.................................................Oh wait !!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Someone needs a dog to walk

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By *exmadcouple42Couple
over a year ago

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"Yes I actually know the person who typed it . Ive obviously copy and pasted it from them since I said it was a friend who typed it.

Trust me I know the original poster very well . it's more that few weeks it's been going about.

If your friend typed this more than a few weeks ago can you ask them to consult the crystal ball one more time and tell us all when lockdown will end please. The point 11 about tigers catching covid only broke on the 6th of April only 2 weeks ago, could it be she told you a wee porky ? or do they really have a crystal ball ?. 

Who said it was a she??? The cat was before april and the tiger was on media before it went to papers 6th April actually, you clearly just go off what's on the news and in papers, top feeds . If you actually check, the questions where being asked about tigers getting infected on the 30th march, 2nd and 5th of April few weeks ago, The bronx zoo tiger was infected before 6th April, they only publisized between the 2nd and 6th april.

My apologies for saying "she" just most clairvoyants are female but point taken.

As for your second part of your post, none of the dates you quoted are over a few weeks so I'm still puzzled.

Or does your friend have a direct contact with the bronx zoo during testing of tigers and even knowledge of a positive test in tigers prior to the dates it was made public. If she knew tigers had tested positive before it was revealed on the media then I'm amazed she typed her list especially point 11 as her way of breaking this very important worldwide news.

I'm afraid it doesn't really ring true. "

Thats fine if it doesn't ring true to you but if it was breaking news on the 6th April, I can assure you the tiger didn't get tested on the 6th april And how long does it take for tests to come back??

We all know that things get leaked and some things get removed. UK always get the news last. It was in new York, how long before we find out in UK?

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By *nferno sausageMan
over a year ago

Aberdeenshire

The tiger is actually my pal, Tony, and he says he actually caught covid 19 in November last year. Had all the symptoms after taking his dog out for a 2 hour walk a few days previously.

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By *exmadcouple42Couple
over a year ago

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over a year ago

Tony..hes greeeaaatttt

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By *exmadcouple42Couple
over a year ago

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"The tiger is actually my pal, Tony, and he says he actually caught covid 19 in November last year. Had all the symptoms after taking his dog out for a 2 hour walk a few days previously. "

Can always rely on you to lighten things up haha. but Tony is a she called nadia, Tony might be one of the lions right enough

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By *un44Man
over a year ago

GLASGOW

I think you will be safe from getting it from a tiger. Personally I'll ALWAYS stay way more than 2 metres away from it and if it decided to break 2 meters rule 1. Who is going to argue with it and 2. The virus would be the last thing on my mind

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Took the dogs their run in the car for their walk..didnt crash..result!! "

I've got a new plan, not going to call out your stupidly any longer. I'm going to order on line a big box of fireworks and see if I can scare you away by setting them off . Seen this idea on another thread. I reckon it's a winning plan.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Nah..wouldnt work.

I like fireworks

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By *nferno sausageMan
over a year ago

Aberdeenshire

From what I've read there's plenty rockets, repeaters and screamers congregating on Fab already.

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By *entralscotscpl7Couple
over a year ago

Falkirk


"From what I've read there's plenty rockets, repeaters and screamers congregating on Fab already. "

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over a year ago


"From what I've read there's plenty rockets, repeaters and screamers congregating on Fab already. "

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

What difference does it make if its beach or park or countryside. Have higher risk of catching the virus standing in a queue in shops than out in open.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I’m looking for opinions.

With the police in England being advised that driving to a deserted place to take valid exercise is allowed, I have this question...

I have a beach which is deserted even on busy warm days. It is 20 mins by car from where I stay. The surrounding streets beside me are filled with joggers/ cyclists/ walkers and although social distancing is possible, it’s a total PIA as it’s busy.

The beach is 4 miles long, there might be 3/4 other people on it with there doggies.

Would the drive to the beach be viewed as unacceptable? At what point would it be acceptable? Is the beach a safer option?

_vcarol…. yes this is acceptable

Matt Hancock said on Friday 17/04/2020 that going out rules have changed

He stated on news and tv that you can drive to the countryside for a walk as long as the walk takes longer than the drive to get there

so

if your drive is 40 minutes, as long as you walk an hour, its acceptable

you will find this report online as well

so get your ass down to your deserted beach and enjoy your walk

Do you have a link for this please mate?"

sorry just seen this now as well as your PM

I have sent you various links;

hare is an ITV news link too

https://www.itv.com/thismorning/hot-topics/alice-beer-investigates-lockdown-dos-and-donts

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By *iercedyvonneTV/TS
over a year ago

Glasgow


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sorry just seen this now as well as your PM

I have sent you various links;

hare is an ITV news link too

https://www.itv.com/thismorning/hot-topics/alice-beer-investigates-lockdown-dos-and-donts"

This is England - it's different in Scotland where it is not acceptable to drive any distance to go for a walk.

Police near me are moving folk on, leafleting parked cars and fining anyone who doesn't comply.

This is just one of many things that people are doing that don't comply with the lockdown and every time someone doesn't comply the length of lockdown and the amount of time before each stage of relaxation gets longer.

FFS just stay at home!

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By *izzabelle and well hungCouple
over a year ago

Edinburgh.

Ha ha. How attitudes have changed. B&Q has opened and there’s an awfully large amount of people who are making “necessary journeys” there. Frankly the social distancing has become a joke.

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By *oldswarriorMan
over a year ago

Falkirk


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sorry just seen this now as well as your PM

I have sent you various links;

hare is an ITV news link too

https://www.itv.com/thismorning/hot-topics/alice-beer-investigates-lockdown-dos-and-donts

This is England - it's different in Scotland where it is not acceptable to drive any distance to go for a walk.

Police near me are moving folk on, leafleting parked cars and fining anyone who doesn't comply.

This is just one of many things that people are doing that don't comply with the lockdown and every time someone doesn't comply the length of lockdown and the amount of time before each stage of relaxation gets longer.

FFS just stay at home!"

I thought this was a UK wide rule?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


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sorry just seen this now as well as your PM

I have sent you various links;

hare is an ITV news link too

https://www.itv.com/thismorning/hot-topics/alice-beer-investigates-lockdown-dos-and-donts

This is England - it's different in Scotland where it is not acceptable to drive any distance to go for a walk.

Police near me are moving folk on, leafleting parked cars and fining anyone who doesn't comply.

This is just one of many things that people are doing that don't comply with the lockdown and every time someone doesn't comply the length of lockdown and the amount of time before each stage of relaxation gets longer.

FFS just stay at home!"

I suggest you phone 101 direct like I done

I explained I was driving 35 minutes to an isolated location to walk my large dogs who do not get on with other dogs, I explained I fully understood lambing season requirements and that where I walk, I can walk for 2 + hours in one direction without coming into contact with anyone

I said I take gloves and hand gel with me for opening closing gates, and my phone number is displayed in car window, should police check parked car

I asked if this was okay, they replied that I was taking a sensible approach and that they have no problem with this and to go ahead

sometimes common sense is needed

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By *oldswarriorMan
over a year ago

Falkirk

This is where its getting confusing.

I thought there was one verified source and that was the direct government website.

From what I'm reading here Scotland has different rules from the rest of the UK.

Somebody jump in and correct me if I'm wrong

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By *teve_it_aloneMan
over a year ago

Dunfermline


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sorry just seen this now as well as your PM

I have sent you various links;

hare is an ITV news link too

https://www.itv.com/thismorning/hot-topics/alice-beer-investigates-lockdown-dos-and-donts

This is England - it's different in Scotland where it is not acceptable to drive any distance to go for a walk.

Police near me are moving folk on, leafleting parked cars and fining anyone who doesn't comply.

This is just one of many things that people are doing that don't comply with the lockdown and every time someone doesn't comply the length of lockdown and the amount of time before each stage of relaxation gets longer.

FFS just stay at home!"

You’re right, the college of policing guidance is for England only, however barring some small details, the statutory instruments (the law which sets out what is and isn’t a reason to leave your home) are pretty much identical.

The law in Scotland is silent on how long you can leave your house to exercise, and how you get there. The college of policing guidance would seem to be quite sensible interpretation.

Ultimately it would need to be tested in court, but those cases will be months away, so in the meantime we have common sense and guidance.

If police are ticketing punters on matters on which the law is silent, then those cops are over-reaching. The Chief Constable has been quite clear (on record) on the policing style he expects from his troops.

I’ve seen a few folk commenting about how they’ve phoned 101 to ask for advice on this law. There are 5 million folk here - if everyone phoned to ask, we’d quickly have jammed up emergency services phone lines. There is plenty advice and guidance on government websites without needing to “just check if I’m ok to...”.

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By *teve_it_aloneMan
over a year ago

Dunfermline


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sorry just seen this now as well as your PM

I have sent you various links;

hare is an ITV news link too

https://www.itv.com/thismorning/hot-topics/alice-beer-investigates-lockdown-dos-and-donts

This is England - it's different in Scotland where it is not acceptable to drive any distance to go for a walk.

Police near me are moving folk on, leafleting parked cars and fining anyone who doesn't comply.

This is just one of many things that people are doing that don't comply with the lockdown and every time someone doesn't comply the length of lockdown and the amount of time before each stage of relaxation gets longer.

FFS just stay at home!

I suggest you phone 101 direct like I done

I explained I was driving 35 minutes to an isolated location to walk my large dogs who do not get on with other dogs, I explained I fully understood lambing season requirements and that where I walk, I can walk for 2 + hours in one direction without coming into contact with anyone

I said I take gloves and hand gel with me for opening closing gates, and my phone number is displayed in car window, should police check parked car

I asked if this was okay, they replied that I was taking a sensible approach and that they have no problem with this and to go ahead

sometimes common sense is needed "

I would urge the opposite. Phoning 101 to have this conversation or similar is taking up valuable time which should be spent taking calls from people who need the police to help them.

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By *ast RolloMan
over a year ago

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what is being said now is that any travel for exercise should be appropriate so if you are an athlete that normally would train for hours at a time about an hour is not going to do you any good so you can go longer. traveling for 20 mins - ie 20 miles or so and doing a dog walk of 30 mins is not on and you could find that if you were in an accident or stoped by the police that you will not be covered by any insurance due to it being non essential and the insurance company will disown you .

in wales cyclists have been told to stay local so that if they have a failure they can walk home .so they cant go for a 100km ride and think it is fine .

as you are only going for a walk live with the inconvenience of others doing the same as you and stop being selfish the beach is not local so hard luck

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By *teve_it_aloneMan
over a year ago

Dunfermline


"what is being said now is that any travel for exercise should be appropriate so if you are an athlete that normally would train for hours at a time about an hour is not going to do you any good so you can go longer. traveling for 20 mins - ie 20 miles or so and doing a dog walk of 30 mins is not on and you could find that if you were in an accident or stoped by the police that you will not be covered by any insurance due to it being non essential and the insurance company will disown you .

in wales cyclists have been told to stay local so that if they have a failure they can walk home .so they cant go for a 100km ride and think it is fine .

as you are only going for a walk live with the inconvenience of others doing the same as you and stop being selfish the beach is not local so hard luck

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It’s interesting you mention Wales. They’re the only nation to introduce a limit on the number of times you can leave for exercise- only one. The others are silent on that point (so Scottish dogs can be walked three times a day...!)

http://www.legislation.gov.uk/wsi/2020/353/regulation/8/made

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over a year ago

Will say this again for the folk scrambling for an argument..I also spoke to the police ..I didnt call them I saw them out so stopped and asked I drive my 2 dogs 5 or 10 mins from my house to walk them in a wooded area no one around so no contact with anyone walking them there I would come into co tact with folk so easier to take the car..they said that was perfectly reasonable and that they are urging folk to "use common sense" which is not driving 20 miles away for a 10 min walk.

Christ everyone is an expert on a sex site if in doubt ask the proper authorities.

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over a year ago


"Will say this again for the folk scrambling for an argument..I also spoke to the police ..I didnt call them I saw them out so stopped and asked I drive my 2 dogs 5 or 10 mins from my house to walk them in a wooded area no one around so no contact with anyone walking them there I would come into co tact with folk so easier to take the car..they said that was perfectly reasonable and that they are urging folk to "use common sense" which is not driving 20 miles away for a 10 min walk.

Christ everyone is an expert on a sex site if in doubt ask the proper authorities."

yip agree with you

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By *iercedyvonneTV/TS
over a year ago

Glasgow

Ok, so here is a recent press release from Stirling Council. I saw something similar from East Dunbartonshire

https://stirling.gov.uk/news/2020/april-2020/more-rural-car-parks-closed-across-stirling/

The point is - it's all not essential and is the tip of the iceberg as regards conforming to lockdown - whether legally or in spirit.

It will all result in lockdown lasting longer.

Driving unnecessarily can result in accidents, breakdowns, need for fuel etc all of which results in contact and spread of the disease and means that they can't relax lockdown on say, small shops opening or dentists/opticians doing non emergency work.

Nobody NEEDS to drive anywhere to go for a walk.

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