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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

So every day we're constantly hearing her voice telling us to stay at home etc

Not exactly leading by example is she

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-52171694

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By *andsCouple
over a year ago

Edin

Nope it’s a disgrace!

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By *antallonMan
over a year ago

glasgow

On Bbc 1 just now I reckon she’ll be squirming when the journalists start asking their questions

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

You probably already know my views on it.

Then again loads on here were defending the rule breakers spouting on about the fact their not breaking the law.

As I said over a week and a half ago, that's the deaths starting to hit close to home for everyone let's hope those who thought it was funny making witty comments about breaking the rules don't need to bury a family member in the coming weeks. Then it won't be so funny I'm guessing.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Its typical of the double standard some folk think they have the right too. She should be removed form all office.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

She should resign or be sacked!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Plain & Simple she should be sacked ...bad enough once but twice..shocking

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Its typical of the double standard some folk think they have the right too. She should be removed form all office. "

Agreed .

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By *earded blossomCouple
over a year ago

Glasgow

She should do the right thing and resign, how are folk expected to follow the rules when she can't! She's only sorry because she got caught

FM kept going on about how she needs her expertise, surely she's not the only person in Scotland who's qualified to do so

K

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By *vbride1963TV/TS
over a year ago

E.K . Glasgow


"She should do the right thing and resign, how are folk expected to follow the rules when she can't! She's only sorry because she got caught

FM kept going on about how she needs her expertise, surely she's not the only person in Scotland who's qualified to do so

K"

I’d expect there is a second person who can step into her place within a short time that would only require a brief crossover of time for the new person to be up to date with all the pertinent details and plans . The only way to follow the rules is through trust and the public have lost trust in her .

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"She should do the right thing and resign, how are folk expected to follow the rules when she can't! She's only sorry because she got caught

FM kept going on about how she needs her expertise, surely she's not the only person in Scotland who's qualified to do so

K"

Exactly right. Resignation is her only option. She knew what she was doing and her actions reflect the privileged 'holier than thou' mindset demonstrated by politicians of all persuasions.

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By *andsCouple
over a year ago

Edin

The fact she went two weekends in a row is beyond belief ....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Epic fuck up.

Shame too I think....she always came across as very calm and reasoned.

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By *atex and KinkCouple
over a year ago

Edinburgh

Devils advocate here...

- so they have a second home.

- thet are a family unit.

- they stay safe and at home generally following government guidelines

- they are within the same family unit at there second home following the same government guidelines.

The only issue is that they travelled in a car together to another house which only they will be in.

Essential travel aside here.

As an example. You have a second home. It floods due to burst water pipe. How would you know unless you went there to check every week. Does that count as essential travel!!?!? Put it another way. What if the house is broken into.

I get the whole essential travel. Stay at home thing.

BUT she is less harmful than the countless idiots going to say a beach or a park or hill on a sunny day like today.

Has she made a mistake. Probably. Lead by example etc. Is she doing any real harm in the bigger picture. probably not.

Calling for Resignation... pah!! For what. You slap the £30 quid fine on her and get on with life.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I can’t believe someone who is In such a responsible position could be so irresponsible not once but twice. It really does beggar belief. Maybe she thinks she’s above the law and practicing what she’s supposed to preach doesn’t apply to her. Incredibly stupid and selfish thing to do.

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By *ussymufferMan
over a year ago

Lanarkshire

Why does it take two adults and two children to check the house out one adult would be sufficient

Wee nicola should sack her now

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By *ifeandhubby400Couple
over a year ago

Arse hole of nowhere ,Scotland

Not once but twice ,one could be a mistake ,twice is just being arrogant

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By *ink-KameraMan
over a year ago

Livingston


"Devils advocate here...

- so they have a second home.

- thet are a family unit.

- they stay safe and at home generally following government guidelines

- they are within the same family unit at there second home following the same government guidelines.

The only issue is that they travelled in a car together to another house which only they will be in.

Essential travel aside here.

As an example. You have a second home. It floods due to burst water pipe. How would you know unless you went there to check every week. Does that count as essential travel!!?!? Put it another way. What if the house is broken into.

I get the whole essential travel. Stay at home thing.

BUT she is less harmful than the countless idiots going to say a beach or a park or hill on a sunny day like today.

Has she made a mistake. Probably. Lead by example etc. Is she doing any real harm in the bigger picture. probably not.

Calling for Resignation... pah!! For what. You slap the £30 quid fine on her and get on with life.

"
Beat me to it. I'm sure some on here may have a holiday flat/home or caravan and will probably take a wee drive to check its OK and not been ransacked or robbed. We are mostly all stuck at home and the thieves know this so are probably targeting holiday homes and caravans right now. I agree given her position she could have made a better judgement, sent her partner for example, but has she done more harm than those people walking in the park for a sunbath or a kickabout?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Like no one ever made a mistake?

Did she do wrong yes

Shes paying the price now for being stupid with the whole country knowing what she did.will she do it again no as every tom dick and newspaper reporter will be following her now.

Give the woman a break ffs.

I myself are looking at her expert advice shes giving to the country.dosnt mean we need to love her.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Like no one ever made a mistake?

Did she do wrong yes

Shes paying the price now for being stupid with the whole country knowing what she did.will she do it again no as every tom dick and newspaper reporter will be following her now.

Give the woman a break ffs.

I myself are looking at her expert advice shes giving to the country.dosnt mean we need to love her."

Since you already openly admitted ignoring the advice your comments don't surprise me.

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By *anarkshirelassCouple
over a year ago

lanarkshire


"She should do the right thing and resign, how are folk expected to follow the rules when she can't! She's only sorry because she got caught

FM kept going on about how she needs her expertise, surely she's not the only person in Scotland who's qualified to do so

K"

Good point..we were saying the same.

Contingency planning should be already in place to ensure she has a deputy should something amiss like her CMO catching the virus of worse. That argument of her being the only person qualified is utter mince.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"

I myself are looking at her expert advice shes giving to the country.dosnt mean we need to love her or listen to it."

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Like no one ever made a mistake?

Did she do wrong yes

Shes paying the price now for being stupid with the whole country knowing what she did.will she do it again no as every tom dick and newspaper reporter will be following her now.

Give the woman a break ffs.

I myself are looking at her expert advice shes giving to the country.dosnt mean we need to love her.

Since you already openly admitted ignoring the advice your comments don't surprise me. "
and your opinion dosnt interest me

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By *ensual temptressWoman
over a year ago

Southampton

Certainly shows NO ONE is above the rules . Plus shows people a

ARE being stopped and police taking action .

Shes taken full responsibility for her actions ,unlike quite afew on here . I think those on here still going out unnecessarily ,traveling unnecessarily and actually meeting are a far bigger concern !

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Like no one ever made a mistake?

Did she do wrong yes

Shes paying the price now for being stupid with the whole country knowing what she did.will she do it again no as every tom dick and newspaper reporter will be following her now.

Give the woman a break ffs.

I myself are looking at her expert advice shes giving to the country.dosnt mean we need to love her.

Since you already openly admitted ignoring the advice your comments don't surprise me. and your opinion dosnt interest me "

Clearly neither does the chief medical officers advice either.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Certainly shows NO ONE is above the rules . Plus shows people a

ARE being stopped and police taking action .

Shes taken full responsibility for her actions ,unlike quite afew on here . I think those on here still going out unnecessarily ,traveling unnecessarily and actually meeting are a far bigger concern !

"

I’m not sure how it shows people are being stopped?

She’s just giving people that want to justify going out ammunition. Anyone out and about getting questioned only needs to reply “but the cmo took a 40 mile trip and the first minister defended her”

Her position is untenable now

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The police never stopped her.the sun newspaper photographed her walking along a golf course near her house.

As iv said previously the police are using common sense.

Group gatherings social distancing yes.

Someone out walking their dog in a secluded area.

No.

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By *ensual temptressWoman
over a year ago

Southampton


"Certainly shows NO ONE is above the rules . Plus shows people a

ARE being stopped and police taking action .

Shes taken full responsibility for her actions ,unlike quite afew on here . I think those on here still going out unnecessarily ,traveling unnecessarily and actually meeting are a far bigger concern !

I’m not sure how it shows people are being stopped?

She’s just giving people that want to justify going out ammunition. Anyone out and about getting questioned only needs to reply “but the cmo took a 40 mile trip and the first minister defended her”

Her position is untenable now "

The police spoke to her and are out already stopping and questioning folks .

She at no point defended her actions and made crystal clear it was totally wrong .

Anyone using her as an excuse to just do as they please just displaying how truly clueless they are .

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Certainly shows NO ONE is above the rules . Plus shows people a

ARE being stopped and police taking action .

Shes taken full responsibility for her actions ,unlike quite afew on here . I think those on here still going out unnecessarily ,traveling unnecessarily and actually meeting are a far bigger concern !

I’m not sure how it shows people are being stopped?

She’s just giving people that want to justify going out ammunition. Anyone out and about getting questioned only needs to reply “but the cmo took a 40 mile trip and the first minister defended her”

Her position is untenable now

The police spoke to her and are out already stopping and questioning folks .

She at no point defended her actions and made crystal clear it was totally wrong .

Anyone using her as an excuse to just do as they please just displaying how truly clueless they are ."

So you admit she’s truly clueless also or is it the ones just doing the same as her? I never said she defended her actions I said the first minister did by allowing her to continue in a job.

She wasn’t stopped she got a warning after she was pictured walking across a golf course. I was actually in a police officers house yesterday working and I asked him and also asked a mate who is a police officer whether they are stopping people and asking them questions about their journeys and they both replied the same. No. They are down in numbers and unnecessary contact with the public could be a risk.

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By *lirtyhighlanderMan
over a year ago

inverness

I work in retail and some people that congregate in aisles to chat and pass the time of day as if nothing going on is a joke, the staff have to come into work every day to potentially mix with people that possibly are infected yeh get dogs abuse when you say you can’t have more than 3 of any item

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By *alcon43Woman
over a year ago

Paisley

I get the feeling that if this had been a man he’d have been sacked and replaced. Nicola wants to keep the women around her.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The police never stopped her.the sun newspaper photographed her walking along a golf course near her house.

As iv said previously the police are using common sense.

Group gatherings social distancing yes.

Someone out walking their dog in a secluded area.

No. "

Walking their dog can be part of peoples daily excerise and us fully acceptable and within the rules we are all following. You repeating that multiple times a day or in someone else's case repeatedly going out in her car to a spot 5 minutes away is against the rules, you as a dog owner can't pick and choose what rules you should listen to and which you can say fuck it , I'm doing what I normally do. That's why I say your being irresponsible, selfish fucks.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

She can't tell us to do one thing and then do exactly the opposite. It's just not on.

I've found myself getting really more incredulous about it as the day goes on.

She needs to go.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The police never stopped her.the sun newspaper photographed her walking along a golf course near her house.

As iv said previously the police are using common sense.

Group gatherings social distancing yes.

Someone out walking their dog in a secluded area.

No.

Walking their dog can be part of peoples daily excerise and us fully acceptable and within the rules we are all following. You repeating that multiple times a day or in someone else's case repeatedly going out in her car to a spot 5 minutes away is against the rules, you as a dog owner can't pick and choose what rules you should listen to and which you can say fuck it , I'm doing what I normally do. That's why I say your being irresponsible, selfish fucks. "

No this again. We know what you think by now surely you can talk about something else.

For someone with the username Zest for life you aren’t half boring us to death

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The police never stopped her.the sun newspaper photographed her walking along a golf course near her house.

As iv said previously the police are using common sense.

Group gatherings social distancing yes.

Someone out walking their dog in a secluded area.

No.

Walking their dog can be part of peoples daily excerise and us fully acceptable and within the rules we are all following. You repeating that multiple times a day or in someone else's case repeatedly going out in her car to a spot 5 minutes away is against the rules, you as a dog owner can't pick and choose what rules you should listen to and which you can say fuck it , I'm doing what I normally do. That's why I say your being irresponsible, selfish fucks.

No this again. We know what you think by now surely you can talk about something else.

For someone with the username Zest for life you aren’t half boring us to death "

I told you , I will call out the hypocrisy when I see it. People can't comment on there breaking rules when they do it themselves. Only commenting on the hypocritical posts.

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By *iercedyvonneTV/TS
over a year ago

Glasgow

She has no option but to resign.

Lost all credibility and this is going to lead to others deciding to ignore the rules which will lead to deaths and longer lockdown/slower return to normal.

No need to travel to her holiday home far less with her family. Would have been a number of times they could have infected someone/become infected themselves.

What if they had a car accident? There's a whole family needing hospital treatment needlessly never mind taking Police, Fire Brigade, vehicle recovery time and more risk of infection.

There literally couldn't have been anyone worse to ignore the rules.

Meanwhile we're rationing milk because we're only going out once a week to get food so that we do not do anything to infect some very vulnerable family members.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The police never stopped her.the sun newspaper photographed her walking along a golf course near her house.

As iv said previously the police are using common sense.

Group gatherings social distancing yes.

Someone out walking their dog in a secluded area.

No.

Walking their dog can be part of peoples daily excerise and us fully acceptable and within the rules we are all following. You repeating that multiple times a day or in someone else's case repeatedly going out in her car to a spot 5 minutes away is against the rules, you as a dog owner can't pick and choose what rules you should listen to and which you can say fuck it , I'm doing what I normally do. That's why I say your being irresponsible, selfish fucks.

No this again. We know what you think by now surely you can talk about something else.

For someone with the username Zest for life you aren’t half boring us to death

I told you , I will call out the hypocrisy when I see it. People can't comment on there breaking rules when they do it themselves. Only commenting on the hypocritical posts. "

Where have I been hypocritical?

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By *ensual temptressWoman
over a year ago

Southampton


"Certainly shows NO ONE is above the rules . Plus shows people a

ARE being stopped and police taking action .

Shes taken full responsibility for her actions ,unlike quite afew on here . I think those on here still going out unnecessarily ,traveling unnecessarily and actually meeting are a far bigger concern !

I’m not sure how it shows people are being stopped?

She’s just giving people that want to justify going out ammunition. Anyone out and about getting questioned only needs to reply “but the cmo took a 40 mile trip and the first minister defended her”

Her position is untenable now

The police spoke to her and are out already stopping and questioning folks .

She at no point defended her actions and made crystal clear it was totally wrong .

Anyone using her as an excuse to just do as they please just displaying how truly clueless they are .

So you admit she’s truly clueless also or is it the ones just doing the same as her? I never said she defended her actions I said the first minister did by allowing her to continue in a job.

She wasn’t stopped she got a warning after she was pictured walking across a golf course. I was actually in a police officers house yesterday working and I asked him and also asked a mate who is a police officer whether they are stopping people and asking them questions about their journeys and they both replied the same. No. They are down in numbers and unnecessary contact with the public could be a risk. "

Of course she was clueless making the decision to check on her 2nd home lol!! Confirmed all along she was 100 % in the wrong and the CHO said herself she was totally in the wrong and no defense for her actions lol! No one has said once she was justified doing what she did . But as I said there are far too many on here been flouting all the lock down advice way before this anyway . Only need to look at those still looking to meet !! That to me is a FAR bigger concern .

As for the police action .... I can absolutely tell you in my area they ARE out and they are questioning if you are out for essential reasons . Even got my letter from work stating my work cant be done from home and my traveling to and from work essential. But if you're out legitimately wont matter if you get stopped or not.

Unfortunately as even shown on here ,some people will just do what suits them and because of that I can see further tighter restrictions being put in place .

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The police never stopped her.the sun newspaper photographed her walking along a golf course near her house.

As iv said previously the police are using common sense.

Group gatherings social distancing yes.

Someone out walking their dog in a secluded area.

No.

Walking their dog can be part of peoples daily excerise and us fully acceptable and within the rules we are all following. You repeating that multiple times a day or in someone else's case repeatedly going out in her car to a spot 5 minutes away is against the rules, you as a dog owner can't pick and choose what rules you should listen to and which you can say fuck it , I'm doing what I normally do. That's why I say your being irresponsible, selfish fucks. "

Yawn....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Its about risk. What she (presumably) did carried no more risk than going shopoing at her local. However, if someone else does it and goes into a more populated area or doesnt observe the directions to avoid the virus, theyd continue the infection.

There is nobody to replace her. Much as her actions were wrong and reprehensible, she should stay- in the background- since the worst is yet to come.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Certainly shows NO ONE is above the rules . Plus shows people a

ARE being stopped and police taking action .

Shes taken full responsibility for her actions ,unlike quite afew on here . I think those on here still going out unnecessarily ,traveling unnecessarily and actually meeting are a far bigger concern !

I’m not sure how it shows people are being stopped?

She’s just giving people that want to justify going out ammunition. Anyone out and about getting questioned only needs to reply “but the cmo took a 40 mile trip and the first minister defended her”

Her position is untenable now

The police spoke to her and are out already stopping and questioning folks .

She at no point defended her actions and made crystal clear it was totally wrong .

Anyone using her as an excuse to just do as they please just displaying how truly clueless they are .

So you admit she’s truly clueless also or is it the ones just doing the same as her? I never said she defended her actions I said the first minister did by allowing her to continue in a job.

She wasn’t stopped she got a warning after she was pictured walking across a golf course. I was actually in a police officers house yesterday working and I asked him and also asked a mate who is a police officer whether they are stopping people and asking them questions about their journeys and they both replied the same. No. They are down in numbers and unnecessary contact with the public could be a risk.

Of course she was clueless making the decision to check on her 2nd home lol!! Confirmed all along she was 100 % in the wrong and the CHO said herself she was totally in the wrong and no defense for her actions lol! No one has said once she was justified doing what she did . But as I said there are far too many on here been flouting all the lock down advice way before this anyway . Only need to look at those still looking to meet !! That to me is a FAR bigger concern .

As for the police action .... I can absolutely tell you in my area they ARE out and they are questioning if you are out for essential reasons . Even got my letter from work stating my work cant be done from home and my traveling to and from work essential. But if you're out legitimately wont matter if you get stopped or not.

Unfortunately as even shown on here ,some people will just do what suits them and because of that I can see further tighter restrictions being put in place .

"

I can only go with what I’ve been told from the horses mouth so to speak and in the past week I’ve travelled around 1000 miles all over Scotland central Scotland and seen far fewer police cars than normal. I don’t know what’s happening where you stay though so I have no reason to disbelieve you. She is setting a terrible example though

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By *ayS2Man
over a year ago

glasgow

Yes she’s done wrong and she has apologised.

Asking for her to lose her job is pathetic and classless, look around you at what unemployment is doing to some and the chaos of no access to work or an income is doing to many up and down the country.

This enforced lockdown and segregation has taught some of you no more empathy or humanity than you possessed when you were free a few weeks ago.

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By *ensual temptressWoman
over a year ago

Southampton

Absolutely bad influence 69 .. I agree totally horrific example shes set . No excuse for it and no excuse for anyone thinking current lockdown measures dont apply to them just because it inconveniences them . That's why i

can see further stricter regulations being applied sadly.

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By *anarkshirelassCouple
over a year ago

lanarkshire

'There is nobody to replace her.

Really....I think we can dispute that statement!!!!!

Surely you cant tell me Scotland doesn't have any doctors or Professors who's specialist training relates to infectious disease and more importantly virus's'?

This lady's speciality is in the field of obstetrics and on that basis, what would the country then do if she was infected....?????

I watched the BBC news to observe that the Deputy Medical Officer for England

and Wales was in front of the cameras.

Note word...Deputy.

Purely a political decision by Nicola Sturgeon to retain her and a bad one in my humble opinion.

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By *ering SeaMan
over a year ago

Penicuik


"Purely a political decision by Nicola Sturgeon to retain her and a bad one in my humble opinion."

The CMO is neither a politician nor affiliated to a political party as far I’m aware.

If the CMO continues in her role then I’m confident that’s because she’s the best person for the job.

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By *hav02Man
over a year ago

Glasgow/London

Our CMO is actually very talented from a leadership and changes for NHS Scotland. While what she did was agreeably stupid, there are far worse offenders out there!

She has a job currently, not as an ObGyn doc, but as an NHS leader. You can't replace people like that over night.

Give her a break, let her guide the NHS through the crisis, and then once we're at the other side, maybe she can reconsider her termination. In the meantime, authorities should focus on the families sunbathing in the park or having day trips crowding in supermarkets

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"

Yes she’s done wrong and she has apologised.

Asking for her to lose her job is pathetic and classless, look around you at what unemployment is doing to some and the chaos of no access to work or an income is doing to many up and down the country.

This enforced lockdown and segregation has taught some of you no more empathy or humanity than you possessed when you were free a few weeks ago.

"
its not classless or pathatic she was the 1 giving out the advice to the country to say stay at home only go out for work if a keyworker..once a day for exercise or essential shopping not travel 40 miles to check her holiday home 2 wkends in a row ...

she has basically meant

"Do as i say but not as i do "

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By *ink-KameraMan
over a year ago

Livingston

Hands up everyone on here who has never Fucked up in the work or personal life?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Our CMO is actually very talented from a leadership and changes for NHS Scotland. While what she did was agreeably stupid, there are far worse offenders out there!

She has a job currently, not as an ObGyn doc, but as an NHS leader. You can't replace people like that over night.

Give her a break, let her guide the NHS through the crisis, and then once we're at the other side, maybe she can reconsider her termination. In the meantime, authorities should focus on the families sunbathing in the park or having day trips crowding in supermarkets "

Please explain to me why you say she was just being stupid and we should give her a break however families sunbathing and keeping 2 meters away from other sunbathers you say should have the authories focus on them. Your statement is another example of hypocrisy on Fab.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Hands up everyone on here who has never Fucked up in the work or personal life? "

It wasn't a fuck up though , it was simply a disregard to a very simple instruction. Even worse was it was herself issueing the instructions. She should resign as an example to others that we all must follow the rules and save lives.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"'There is nobody to replace her.

Really....I think we can dispute that statement!!!!!

Surely you cant tell me Scotland doesn't have any doctors or Professors who's specialist training relates to infectious disease and more importantly virus's'?

This lady's speciality is in the field of obstetrics and on that basis, what would the country then do if she was infected....?????

I watched the BBC news to observe that the Deputy Medical Officer for England

and Wales was in front of the cameras.

Note word...Deputy.

Purely a political decision by Nicola Sturgeon to retain her and a bad one in my humble opinion."

Anybody could replace her but she brings particular skills that are best used where they are. There’s nothing ‘political’ about it. Changing tack at this stage would be catastrophic.

Nothing about Covid-19 should be political, and that was the sense I had in Scotland. England, on the otherhand, is and to the probable detrement of its inhabitants. The CMO shoukd stay and at the very least, be an example of stupidity

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By *ering SeaMan
over a year ago

Penicuik


"Hands up everyone on here who has never Fucked up in the work or personal life?

It wasn't a fuck up though , it was simply a disregard to a very simple instruction. Even worse was it was herself issueing the instructions. She should resign as an example to others that we all must follow the rules and save lives."

Will Charlie step down ?

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By *ink-KameraMan
over a year ago

Livingston


"Hands up everyone on here who has never Fucked up in the work or personal life?

It wasn't a fuck up though , it was simply a disregard to a very simple instruction. Even worse was it was herself issueing the instructions. She should resign as an example to others that we all must follow the rules and save lives.

Will Charlie step down ? "
will the chief of Fuck ups BOJO resign?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Hands up everyone on here who has never Fucked up in the work or personal life?

It wasn't a fuck up though , it was simply a disregard to a very simple instruction. Even worse was it was herself issueing the instructions. She should resign as an example to others that we all must follow the rules and save lives.

Will Charlie step down ? will the chief of Fuck ups BOJO resign?

"

Yes definitely, both of them should, if the police spoke to them twice about visiting thier holiday homes in the countryside then yes . Or is it now a sackable offence to catch covid now.?

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By *ering SeaMan
over a year ago

Penicuik


"Hands up everyone on here who has never Fucked up in the work or personal life?

It wasn't a fuck up though , it was simply a disregard to a very simple instruction. Even worse was it was herself issueing the instructions. She should resign as an example to others that we all must follow the rules and save lives.

Will Charlie step down ? will the chief of Fuck ups BOJO resign?

Yes definitely, both of them should, if the police spoke to them twice about visiting thier holiday homes in the countryside then yes . Or is it now a sackable offence to catch covid now.? "

You saying Charlie boy travelled whilst not showing any symptoms ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Hands up everyone on here who has never Fucked up in the work or personal life?

It wasn't a fuck up though , it was simply a disregard to a very simple instruction. Even worse was it was herself issueing the instructions. She should resign as an example to others that we all must follow the rules and save lives.

Will Charlie step down ? will the chief of Fuck ups BOJO resign?

Yes definitely, both of them should, if the police spoke to them twice about visiting thier holiday homes in the countryside then yes . Or is it now a sackable offence to catch covid now.?

You saying Charlie boy travelled whilst not showing any symptoms ? "

You asked if Charlie should step down, I'm only saying , show me where police TWICE asked him not to take his family a weekend away to the country retreat.

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By *ering SeaMan
over a year ago

Penicuik


"Hands up everyone on here who has never Fucked up in the work or personal life?

It wasn't a fuck up though , it was simply a disregard to a very simple instruction. Even worse was it was herself issueing the instructions. She should resign as an example to others that we all must follow the rules and save lives.

Will Charlie step down ? will the chief of Fuck ups BOJO resign?

Yes definitely, both of them should, if the police spoke to them twice about visiting thier holiday homes in the countryside then yes . Or is it now a sackable offence to catch covid now.?

You saying Charlie boy travelled whilst not showing any symptoms ?

You asked if Charlie should step down, I'm only saying , show me where police TWICE asked him not to take his family a weekend away to the country retreat.

"

He showed symptoms. Travelled to deeside travelled back to englandshire for a meeting. Travelled back to deeside. You really trying to defend him ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Hands up everyone on here who has never Fucked up in the work or personal life?

It wasn't a fuck up though , it was simply a disregard to a very simple instruction. Even worse was it was herself issueing the instructions. She should resign as an example to others that we all must follow the rules and save lives.

Will Charlie step down ? will the chief of Fuck ups BOJO resign?

Yes definitely, both of them should, if the police spoke to them twice about visiting thier holiday homes in the countryside then yes . Or is it now a sackable offence to catch covid now.?

You saying Charlie boy travelled whilst not showing any symptoms ?

You asked if Charlie should step down, I'm only saying , show me where police TWICE asked him not to take his family a weekend away to the country retreat.

He showed symptoms. Travelled to deeside travelled back to englandshire for a meeting. Travelled back to deeside. You really trying to defend him ? "

I imagine he'd have had his security/entourage with him too...

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By *ohn pcoolMan
over a year ago

Inverness

Yes but Charlie and members of his entourage were already displaying symptoms when they decided to travel, Matt Hancock out and about after 6 days of self isolation opening a emergency hospital whilst coughing and sneezing all over the place.

If she goes then so should they.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Hands up everyone on here who has never Fucked up in the work or personal life?

It wasn't a fuck up though , it was simply a disregard to a very simple instruction. Even worse was it was herself issueing the instructions. She should resign as an example to others that we all must follow the rules and save lives.

Will Charlie step down ? will the chief of Fuck ups BOJO resign?

Yes definitely, both of them should, if the police spoke to them twice about visiting thier holiday homes in the countryside then yes . Or is it now a sackable offence to catch covid now.?

You saying Charlie boy travelled whilst not showing any symptoms ?

You asked if Charlie should step down, I'm only saying , show me where police TWICE asked him not to take his family a weekend away to the country retreat.

He showed symptoms. Travelled to deeside travelled back to englandshire for a meeting. Travelled back to deeside. You really trying to defend him ? "

Haha, I'm not tring to defend him at all. I'm trying to call out your hypocrisy and you just confirmed it. Rules are rules so why do you defend some rule breakers and condemn others. You even start threads making jokes about breaking rules.

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By *ering SeaMan
over a year ago

Penicuik


"Yes but Charlie and members of his entourage were already displaying symptoms when they decided to travel, Matt Hancock out and about after 6 days of self isolation opening a emergency hospital whilst coughing and sneezing all over the place.

If she goes then so should they. "

Exactly, what she done was stupid. But wolves always circle the weak.

She’s personally saved hundred of children’s lives as a doctor. Far more worthy than the elite.

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By *ering SeaMan
over a year ago

Penicuik


"Hands up everyone on here who has never Fucked up in the work or personal life?

It wasn't a fuck up though , it was simply a disregard to a very simple instruction. Even worse was it was herself issueing the instructions. She should resign as an example to others that we all must follow the rules and save lives.

Will Charlie step down ? will the chief of Fuck ups BOJO resign?

Yes definitely, both of them should, if the police spoke to them twice about visiting thier holiday homes in the countryside then yes . Or is it now a sackable offence to catch covid now.?

You saying Charlie boy travelled whilst not showing any symptoms ?

You asked if Charlie should step down, I'm only saying , show me where police TWICE asked him not to take his family a weekend away to the country retreat.

He showed symptoms. Travelled to deeside travelled back to englandshire for a meeting. Travelled back to deeside. You really trying to defend him ?

Haha, I'm not tring to defend him at all. I'm trying to call out your hypocrisy and you just confirmed it. Rules are rules so why do you defend some rule breakers and condemn others. You even start threads making jokes about breaking rules. "

Hypocrisy

Dugs

Repeat

Hypocrisy

Dugs

Repeat

I’m upholding the rules. Charlie, bojo, et al should stand down and resign

Good for the goose...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"

I’m upholding the rules."

In my pocket.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Word of the day kids.

#hypocrisy

Yawn....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I work in retail and some people that congregate in aisles to chat and pass the time of day as if nothing going on is a joke, the staff have to come into work every day to potentially mix with people that possibly are infected yeh get dogs abuse when you say you can’t have more than 3 of any item "

What he said is quite true it's a disgraceful way to act with people that are ensuring folk get food

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By *nferno sausageMan
over a year ago

Aberdeenshire


"

I’m upholding the rules.

In my pocket. "

That's no social distancing, unless you've got pockets like Charlie's lugs.

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By *ering SeaMan
over a year ago

Penicuik


"

I’m upholding the rules.

In my pocket. "

It’s only funny when I say it

You’ve not said whether Charlie and bojo should step down/resign ?

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By *uietbloke67Man
over a year ago

outside your bedroom window ;-)

Epic fuck up I agree, but is now really the time for dispensing with her knowledge and experience, there is s bigger picture here.

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By *ering SeaMan
over a year ago

Penicuik


"

I’m upholding the rules.

In my pocket.

That's no social distancing, unless you've got pockets like Charlie's lugs. "

He’s spent that long in my pocket I’m sure he’s rimming me

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"

He’s spent that long in my pocket I’m sure he’s rimming me "

Are you one of these Fab " straight" guys we hear about. ?

Bit of a worrying picture to me but hey, if it floats yer boat don't let me stand in the way of your fantasies. Is this part of your post covid 19 bucket list items.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

As long as you both are only out 1 time for your hook up and both adere to the 2 metre rule.

Otherwise someones gonna call the polis

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By *ering SeaMan
over a year ago

Penicuik


"

He’s spent that long in my pocket I’m sure he’s rimming me

Are you one of these Fab " straight" guys we hear about. ?

Bit of a worrying picture to me but hey, if it floats yer boat don't let me stand in the way of your fantasies. Is this part of your post covid 19 bucket list items. "

Mind get yer tongue deep in there. Like last time

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By *nferno sausageMan
over a year ago

Aberdeenshire

'Allo 'allo 'allo.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"

He’s spent that long in my pocket I’m sure he’s rimming me

Are you one of these Fab " straight" guys we hear about. ?

Bit of a worrying picture to me but hey, if it floats yer boat don't let me stand in the way of your fantasies. Is this part of your post covid 19 bucket list items.

Mind get yer tongue deep in there. Like last time "

Hope you two are stocking up on the vaseline for when this is all over...the sexual tension here is off the scale!

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By *ering SeaMan
over a year ago

Penicuik


"

He’s spent that long in my pocket I’m sure he’s rimming me

Are you one of these Fab " straight" guys we hear about. ?

Bit of a worrying picture to me but hey, if it floats yer boat don't let me stand in the way of your fantasies. Is this part of your post covid 19 bucket list items.

Mind get yer tongue deep in there. Like last time

Hope you two are stocking up on the vaseline for when this is all over...the sexual tension here is off the scale!"

Just imagine what it’ll be like with another few weeks of rules

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By *hav02Man
over a year ago

Glasgow/London

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By *hav02Man
over a year ago

Glasgow/London


"Our CMO is actually very talented from a leadership and changes for NHS Scotland. While what she did was agreeably stupid, there are far worse offenders out there!

She has a job currently, not as an ObGyn doc, but as an NHS leader. You can't replace people like that over night.

Give her a break, let her guide the NHS through the crisis, and then once we're at the other side, maybe she can reconsider her termination. In the meantime, authorities should focus on the families sunbathing in the park or having day trips crowding in supermarkets

Please explain to me why you say she was just being stupid and we should give her a break however families sunbathing and keeping 2 meters away from other sunbathers you say should have the authories focus on them. Your statement is another example of hypocrisy on Fab. "

Not hypocrisy. It's relative.

She's still working on a high stress role, yet is still fallible. Her professional skills are unique and required in a pandemic, and not comparable to politicians who are demonstrably disposable.

The sunbathers and many hoardes of shoppers are mostly not working, and just bored.

Besides, did she come within 2m of anyone on her travels.

Plus, I did say she should step down once this virus heat is over to set example.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"

He’s spent that long in my pocket I’m sure he’s rimming me

Are you one of these Fab " straight" guys we hear about. ?

Bit of a worrying picture to me but hey, if it floats yer boat don't let me stand in the way of your fantasies. Is this part of your post covid 19 bucket list items.

Mind get yer tongue deep in there. Like last time "

No thanks, my profile says straight for a reason, not Fab straight like to may have hoped. You keep those fantasies of yours right where they should be . In your wee wishful thinking world.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"

He’s spent that long in my pocket I’m sure he’s rimming me

Are you one of these Fab " straight" guys we hear about. ?

Bit of a worrying picture to me but hey, if it floats yer boat don't let me stand in the way of your fantasies. Is this part of your post covid 19 bucket list items.

Mind get yer tongue deep in there. Like last time

Hope you two are stocking up on the vaseline for when this is all over...the sexual tension here is off the scale!"

With a name like doggy you stay out it. !!!!

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By *ering SeaMan
over a year ago

Penicuik


"

He’s spent that long in my pocket I’m sure he’s rimming me

Are you one of these Fab " straight" guys we hear about. ?

Bit of a worrying picture to me but hey, if it floats yer boat don't let me stand in the way of your fantasies. Is this part of your post covid 19 bucket list items.

Mind get yer tongue deep in there. Like last time

No thanks, my profile says straight for a reason, not Fab straight like to may have hoped. You keep those fantasies of yours right where they should be . In your wee wishful thinking world. "

You’ve still not answered whether Charlie and bojo should depart ?

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over a year ago

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over a year ago

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By *ering SeaMan
over a year ago

Penicuik

Panicking

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"

He’s spent that long in my pocket I’m sure he’s rimming me

Are you one of these Fab " straight" guys we hear about. ?

Bit of a worrying picture to me but hey, if it floats yer boat don't let me stand in the way of your fantasies. Is this part of your post covid 19 bucket list items.

Mind get yer tongue deep in there. Like last time

No thanks, my profile says straight for a reason, not Fab straight like to may have hoped. You keep those fantasies of yours right where they should be . In your wee wishful thinking world.

You’ve still not answered whether Charlie and bojo should depart ? "

I can't say as I have no idea what they have done. If they stand up in front of the nation and say they totally diregarded the advice laid down by the government by breaking the rules then of course they should resign but I don't think they have made any statement like that . Or am I wrong ??

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By *ering SeaMan
over a year ago

Penicuik

CMO resigned

Bojo in hospital

Never a dull moment

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

She HAD to resign. Once was bad enough but twice while all us plebs are meant to act on their official guidelines.

They would have been busy working out her package over the last few hours.

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By *ockothenorthMan
over a year ago

Falkirk

Did I miss something

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

But it's ok for the prince of wales to do it?

What's that word again..??? Ahhh hypocrites

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'd agree there. He set a very bad example too. Absolutely

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By *anarkshirelassCouple
over a year ago

lanarkshire

Well she's resigned..so I assume we're doomed as she was the expert and there's no one else to do the job.

Aye right....

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By *ilf n filfCouple
over a year ago

edinburgh

She just resigned now!!

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By *ering SeaMan
over a year ago

Penicuik


"She just resigned now!!"

Try catch up lol

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By *ighland gentlemanMan
over a year ago

Ardgay

So why was a Sun photographer hanging around East Fife anyway?

Been tapping phones again?

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By *ilf n filfCouple
over a year ago

edinburgh

I was a close second home!!

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By *ctoboyMan
over a year ago

Glasgow

Yes she has resigned for making her big mistake...

What about Prince Charles he just waltzed right up here to Scotland when He Had THE VIRUS!!!! Why hasn't he resigned???? One rule for some!!!!

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By *ilf n filfCouple
over a year ago

edinburgh

It won’t be just Prince Charles it will be a whole entourage of security guards and bum wipers

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By *un44Man
over a year ago

GLASGOW


"The police never stopped her.the sun newspaper photographed her walking along a golf course near her house.

As iv said previously the police are using common sense.

Group gatherings social distancing yes.

Someone out walking their dog in a secluded area.

No.

Walking their dog can be part of peoples daily excerise and us fully acceptable and within the rules we are all following. You repeating that multiple times a day or in someone else's case repeatedly going out in her car to a spot 5 minutes away is against the rules, you as a dog owner can't pick and choose what rules you should listen to and which you can say fuck it , I'm doing what I normally do. That's why I say your being irresponsible, selfish fucks.

No this again. We know what you think by now surely you can talk about something else.

For someone with the username Zest for life you aren’t half boring us to death

I told you , I will call out the hypocrisy when I see it. People can't comment on there breaking rules when they do it themselves. Only commenting on the hypocritical posts. "

I'm not a dog owner but even I know that you cant walk a dog just once a day, fuck me it's back teeth would be floating. The hour exercise doesn't need to be taken as one hole hour so those walking their dog responsibly for 10/15 mins af a time with no contact with others then they are not breaking the rules, neither are they when travelling a short distance to walk them. As for out heath leader, she needs to go. She is in a position at this moment in time where she cant be seen to be making such a stupid mistake and needs to be held accountable, as does the photographer and journalist as following her isn't an essential journey so they should be fined for it. We need to start taking this seriously. Out illustrious leaders are wandering around bumping into each other and not looking at what other countries are doing. Germany, Korea and China have it under control by testing....testing....testing. some NHS workers aren't being tested even when they have been exposed to it for rear they will take time off sick. Were going about it the wrong way.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Had to resign, how could anyone take her seriously now? At the top of her profession too. Just goes to show, this stupidity and selfishness can be evident in all walks of society.

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By *eep.Man
over a year ago

Just a background character


"CMO resigned

Bojo in hospital

Never a dull moment "

It's the tosspots revelling in their own misplaced smugness though it all that piss me off.

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By *ering SeaMan
over a year ago

Penicuik


"CMO resigned

Bojo in hospital

Never a dull moment

It's the tosspots revelling in their own misplaced smugness though it all that piss me off."

It’s a crying shame she’ll not be remembered for the numerous newborns she saved, nor the family’s she comforted.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Its about risk. What she (presumably) did carried no more risk than going shopoing at her local. However, if someone else does it and goes into a more populated area or doesnt observe the directions to avoid the virus, theyd continue the infection.

There is nobody to replace her. Much as her actions were wrong and reprehensible, she should stay- in the background- since the worst is yet to come. "

Hugh Pennington from Aberdeen university is actually far more qualified on these thing than her so there is someone who can replace her no problem

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By *ering SeaMan
over a year ago

Penicuik


"Its about risk. What she (presumably) did carried no more risk than going shopoing at her local. However, if someone else does it and goes into a more populated area or doesnt observe the directions to avoid the virus, theyd continue the infection.

There is nobody to replace her. Much as her actions were wrong and reprehensible, she should stay- in the background- since the worst is yet to come.

Hugh Pennington from Aberdeen university is actually far more qualified on these thing than her so there is someone who can replace her no problem "

Pennington is way to involved in politics.

The CMO was appointed in 2015, not in response to Covid19.

Pennington retired nearly 20 years ago.

Pennington worked predominantly in research.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Its about risk. What she (presumably) did carried no more risk than going shopoing at her local. However, if someone else does it and goes into a more populated area or doesnt observe the directions to avoid the virus, theyd continue the infection.

There is nobody to replace her. Much as her actions were wrong and reprehensible, she should stay- in the background- since the worst is yet to come.

Hugh Pennington from Aberdeen university is actually far more qualified on these thing than her so there is someone who can replace her no problem

Pennington is way to involved in politics.

The CMO was appointed in 2015, not in response to Covid19.

Pennington retired nearly 20 years ago.

Pennington worked predominantly in research. "

When you say way to involved in politics you mean the wrong type of politics for our government?

He already has experience with his e.coli work

The response wasn’t to who can come in and be the new cmo it was meant as in there is someone who can replace her in the short term during this crisis, someone who has way more experience

He’s far more qualified than the gynaecologist

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By *ering SeaMan
over a year ago

Penicuik


"Its about risk. What she (presumably) did carried no more risk than going shopoing at her local. However, if someone else does it and goes into a more populated area or doesnt observe the directions to avoid the virus, theyd continue the infection.

There is nobody to replace her. Much as her actions were wrong and reprehensible, she should stay- in the background- since the worst is yet to come.

Hugh Pennington from Aberdeen university is actually far more qualified on these thing than her so there is someone who can replace her no problem

Pennington is way to involved in politics.

The CMO was appointed in 2015, not in response to Covid19.

Pennington retired nearly 20 years ago.

Pennington worked predominantly in research.

When you say way to involved in politics you mean the wrong type of politics for our government?

He already has experience with his e.coli work

The response wasn’t to who can come in and be the new cmo it was meant as in there is someone who can replace her in the short term during this crisis, someone who has way more experience

He’s far more qualified than the gynaecologist "

Pennington’s background is bacteriology NOT virology.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Its about risk. What she (presumably) did carried no more risk than going shopoing at her local. However, if someone else does it and goes into a more populated area or doesnt observe the directions to avoid the virus, theyd continue the infection.

There is nobody to replace her. Much as her actions were wrong and reprehensible, she should stay- in the background- since the worst is yet to come.

Hugh Pennington from Aberdeen university is actually far more qualified on these thing than her so there is someone who can replace her no problem

Pennington is way to involved in politics.

The CMO was appointed in 2015, not in response to Covid19.

Pennington retired nearly 20 years ago.

Pennington worked predominantly in research.

When you say way to involved in politics you mean the wrong type of politics for our government?

He already has experience with his e.coli work

The response wasn’t to who can come in and be the new cmo it was meant as in there is someone who can replace her in the short term during this crisis, someone who has way more experience

He’s far more qualified than the gynaecologist

Pennington’s background is bacteriology NOT virology. "

What was Catherine Calderwoods background?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"

Pennington’s background is bacteriology NOT virology. "

Also he has experience in pandemics

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By *ering SeaMan
over a year ago

Penicuik


"Its about risk. What she (presumably) did carried no more risk than going shopoing at her local. However, if someone else does it and goes into a more populated area or doesnt observe the directions to avoid the virus, theyd continue the infection.

There is nobody to replace her. Much as her actions were wrong and reprehensible, she should stay- in the background- since the worst is yet to come.

Hugh Pennington from Aberdeen university is actually far more qualified on these thing than her so there is someone who can replace her no problem

Pennington is way to involved in politics.

The CMO was appointed in 2015, not in response to Covid19.

Pennington retired nearly 20 years ago.

Pennington worked predominantly in research.

When you say way to involved in politics you mean the wrong type of politics for our government?

He already has experience with his e.coli work

The response wasn’t to who can come in and be the new cmo it was meant as in there is someone who can replace her in the short term during this crisis, someone who has way more experience

He’s far more qualified than the gynaecologist

Pennington’s background is bacteriology NOT virology.

What was Catherine Calderwoods background?"

Again I’ll emphasise...

She was appointed in 2015, not in response to C19

Pennington is NOT a virologist

He tells people to wash their hands after dressing meat with a paper towel not a kitchen towel.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Its about risk. What she (presumably) did carried no more risk than going shopoing at her local. However, if someone else does it and goes into a more populated area or doesnt observe the directions to avoid the virus, theyd continue the infection.

There is nobody to replace her. Much as her actions were wrong and reprehensible, she should stay- in the background- since the worst is yet to come.

Hugh Pennington from Aberdeen university is actually far more qualified on these thing than her so there is someone who can replace her no problem

Pennington is way to involved in politics.

The CMO was appointed in 2015, not in response to Covid19.

Pennington retired nearly 20 years ago.

Pennington worked predominantly in research.

When you say way to involved in politics you mean the wrong type of politics for our government?

He already has experience with his e.coli work

The response wasn’t to who can come in and be the new cmo it was meant as in there is someone who can replace her in the short term during this crisis, someone who has way more experience

He’s far more qualified than the gynaecologist

Pennington’s background is bacteriology NOT virology.

What was Catherine Calderwoods background?

Again I’ll emphasise...

She was appointed in 2015, not in response to C19

Pennington is NOT a virologist

He tells people to wash their hands after dressing meat with a paper towel not a kitchen towel. "

He has experience in pandemics.

You already hit the nail on the head in your first comment about politics. Unfortunately this comes first in scotland

No one is suggesting calderwood was put in this position due to coronavirus, someone said there is no one to replace her. That’s not the case. I’m not saying Pennington replaces her as CMO but he’s far more qualified to advise the government on pandemics

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over a year ago

As an employer here’s what I look for

Do they have the skills to do the job

Do they have experience

Timekeeping/Sickness blah blah

lastly

Will their political or religious views have an effect on how people view my company.

That question is NOT “is their political or religious views different to mine” as I couldn’t care less what school they went to or party they vote for its whether they are intolerant or bigoted to others that matter

However your very first reason was penningtons political views which highlights how backward we really are when that takes precedent over national health

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By *an from UncleMan
over a year ago

ml1

Who is it we are talking about here, is it the Queen for travelling out to Windsor or Prince Charles for travelling to Balmoral oh no that Doctor tut tut Nicola must be shocked to discover that she has fibers as well as sex pests past and present on her team Politicians as well who would have thought it

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By *ering SeaMan
over a year ago

Penicuik


"As an employer here’s what I look for

Do they have the skills to do the job

Do they have experience

Timekeeping/Sickness blah blah

lastly

Will their political or religious views have an effect on how people view my company.

That question is NOT “is their political or religious views different to mine” as I couldn’t care less what school they went to or party they vote for its whether they are intolerant or bigoted to others that matter

However your very first reason was penningtons political views which highlights how backward we really are when that takes precedent over national health

"

He's 81 years old. He should be in 12 week isolation due to increased risk. If he was appointed as Calderwood's replacement would you be calling for his resignation when he broke isolation to be at the briefings ?

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over a year ago


"As an employer here’s what I look for

Do they have the skills to do the job

Do they have experience

Timekeeping/Sickness blah blah

lastly

Will their political or religious views have an effect on how people view my company.

That question is NOT “is their political or religious views different to mine” as I couldn’t care less what school they went to or party they vote for its whether they are intolerant or bigoted to others that matter

However your very first reason was penningtons political views which highlights how backward we really are when that takes precedent over national health

He's 81 years old. He should be in 12 week isolation due to increased risk. If he was appointed as Calderwood's replacement would you be calling for his resignation when he broke isolation to be at the briefings ? "

Could he not work/advise from home?

To quote another fabber are you being hypocritical? His work would be classed as essential

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By *ilverminxWoman
over a year ago

edinburgh

We’ve not heard much about Charlie. Is he even still alive? Bojo looks like crap and I have few choice words for him. I’d leave him in a hospital corridor if it wouldn’t cost me my registration.

I feel for the former CMO. We don’t know her reasons and she must be under a lot of stress. She didn’t go hang out on the streets or go shopping - she went to her other home. I don’t see the big deal. Don’t think it warranted resignation, especially at this time but hey ho, it’s done now.

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By *ering SeaMan
over a year ago

Penicuik


"As an employer here’s what I look for

Do they have the skills to do the job

Do they have experience

Timekeeping/Sickness blah blah

lastly

Will their political or religious views have an effect on how people view my company.

That question is NOT “is their political or religious views different to mine” as I couldn’t care less what school they went to or party they vote for its whether they are intolerant or bigoted to others that matter

However your very first reason was penningtons political views which highlights how backward we really are when that takes precedent over national health

He's 81 years old. He should be in 12 week isolation due to increased risk. If he was appointed as Calderwood's replacement would you be calling for his resignation when he broke isolation to be at the briefings ?

Could he not work/advise from home?

To quote another fabber are you being hypocritical? His work would be classed as essential "

Them the rules

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By *ering SeaMan
over a year ago

Penicuik


"Wee nicola should sack her now "

The FM could not sack the CMO, She’s a permanent civil servant employed by the Scottish Govt.

Her boss is Director-General Health Social Care/Chief Executive of the NHS, Malcolm Wright. Where was he? He should have acted swiftly - to suspend and carry out disciplinary process.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

A CMO’s job will be to pull together all experts in the field of pandemics. It’ll be a vast base of medical, pharmaceutical, research, numbers, statistics and projections, with input from policing, town planning, NHS, medical suppliers and goodness knows what else. then to work out a feasible strategy THEN to present it to the public in an understandable way. Add in presentable and good looking ( in this fascile society).

People like that are hard to find and that knowledge takes time to aquire. That I think was the reason for not firing her, especially at this time, two weeks in. I hope the deputy is that person.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Bering- I didn’t know that. Thanks for the info

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By *ering SeaMan
over a year ago

Penicuik


"Bering- I didn’t know that. Thanks for the info"

Dr Gregor Smith, Deputy CMO now in top spot.

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By *ink-KameraMan
over a year ago

Livingston


"A CMO’s job ………………………... Add in presentable and good looking ( in this fascile society)…..………..."

Have you seen Chris Whitty CMO for England??

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

She travelled to a second home with 3 others no doubt stopping for fuel, perhaps nipping to another shop for supplies, perhaps out walking touching gates and fences, stopping and talking to neighbours or friends who knows we don't have a complete rundown of her movements, so that's 4 people potentially out moving around, that's the bigger issue! The papers can't take pics of her kids and what they were doing but clearly someone made the phone call and reported her because they were concerned or enraged by her actions and flippant disregard for the protocols she was setting down

My younger two kids haven't left the house for 4 weeks, my daughter is asthmatic and had a throat infection so she was off school even before they knocked off, she's been to camhs has a social worker and a support worker because she's been struggling for the last two years, she's not coping well with this, I'd love to take her a wee afternoon drive with the dogs to the beach to get her out the house and I feel like the worst mum in the world because I can't let her

The CMO actions most definitely called for her resignation, as for Charles he owes the public an apology and explanation for his actions, regardless of whether it was before or after the lockdown he travelled. She at least did that and rightly so, and now she's paying the consequences for her actions so might very well be a wake up call to others to show solidarity that no one is above the law

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By *acreadCouple
over a year ago

central scotland

What the woman did was wrong and she should not say don't travel then do so herself but there are posts on here defending Charlie but condemning Calderwood? Did the op herself not say a few weeks ago in defence of Charlie that if she had a second home she too would go to get away from it? if you condemn one then condemn them all.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It’s an evolving situation- what was on then is not ok now

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Everybody is replaceable

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Its about risk. What she (presumably) did carried no more risk than going shopoing at her local. However, if someone else does it and goes into a more populated area or doesnt observe the directions to avoid the virus, theyd continue the infection.

There is nobody to replace her. Much as her actions were wrong and reprehensible, she should stay- in the background- since the worst is yet to come.

Hugh Pennington from Aberdeen university is actually far more qualified on these thing than her so there is someone who can replace her no problem "

Good shout. I'd trust him 100%

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Well she’s stepped down now. Her apology was cringe to watch she must have felt like such a moron. And rightly so! Practice what you preach lady!

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over a year ago


"What the woman did was wrong and she should not say don't travel then do so herself but there are posts on here defending Charlie but condemning Calderwood? Did the op herself not say a few weeks ago in defence of Charlie that if she had a second home she too would go to get away from it? if you condemn one then condemn them all.

"

Yep I'd go and stay there out the way not jump Back and forth between the two

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"CMO resigned

Bojo in hospital

Never a dull moment

It's the tosspots revelling in their own misplaced smugness though it all that piss me off.

It’s a crying shame she’ll not be remembered for the numerous newborns she saved, nor the family’s she comforted.

"

What was her name again ?

I feel a tiny bit sorry for her, she saw fit to do the right thing and resign so credit to her for that. However, perhaps if she had spared a thought for the hundreds of weddings and birthday party plans that are now ruined because the people must follow the rules. Or had she spared any thoughts for people like myself that could not attend funerals due to lock down. Did she spare a thought for the millions of kids she told every day to stay home away from their friends. Had she given all those things a thought maybe she would have realised her 2 weekends away were not really such a necessity after all and her resignation would not have been required .

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By *acreadCouple
over a year ago

central scotland


"What the woman did was wrong and she should not say don't travel then do so herself but there are posts on here defending Charlie but condemning Calderwood? Did the op herself not say a few weeks ago in defence of Charlie that if she had a second home she too would go to get away from it? if you condemn one then condemn them all.

Yep I'd go and stay there out the way not jump Back and forth between the two"
I guess that's fair enough

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By *ink-KameraMan
over a year ago

Livingston


"She travelled to a second home with 3 others no doubt stopping for fuel, perhaps nipping to another shop for supplies, perhaps out walking touching gates and fences, stopping and talking to neighbours or friends who knows we don't have a complete rundown of her movements, so that's 4 people potentially out moving around, that's the bigger issue! The papers can't take pics of her kids and what they were doing but clearly someone made the phone call and reported her because they were concerned or enraged by her actions and flippant disregard for the protocols she was setting down

My younger two kids haven't left the house for 4 weeks, my daughter is asthmatic and had a throat infection so she was off school even before they knocked off, she's been to camhs has a social worker and a support worker because she's been struggling for the last two years, she's not coping well with this, I'd love to take her a wee afternoon drive with the dogs to the beach to get her out the house and I feel like the worst mum in the world because I can't let her

The CMO actions most definitely called for her resignation, as for Charles he owes the public an apology and explanation for his actions, regardless of whether it was before or after the lockdown he travelled. She at least did that and rightly so, and now she's paying the consequences for her actions so might very well be a wake up call to others to show solidarity that no one is above the law "
It was an 80 mile round trip, I can't think of any modern car that won't do a lot more than 80 miles on a tank of fuel. The rest of your post is just supposition to suggest a family of 4 cannot drive an hour or less without the need to stop off to go shopping ETC.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"So every day we're constantly hearing her voice telling us to stay at home etc

Not exactly leading by example is she

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-52171694"

Yip absolute disgrace. She would have known she was being watched. Iys her own fault. Just does to show not all health officials stick by their Supposed Examples ehh.

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