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"Many of us may have had it without knowing but only a test would prove it." Yup, that test will be the 'game changer' | |||
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"Many of us may have had it without knowing but only a test would prove it. Me my oh have said this many times. Theres a few in her work been really shitty plus I was really shity in November when I was travelling up and down to England never felt. That bad before. So theres a fair chance it's been a bout longer than the CCP are saying " Forensics indicates the mutation occurred at the beginning of November. So it wouldn’t have been before then. That’s if you believe the WHO and don’t have the tinfoil hat on. | |||
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"I don’t believe Boris, chas, or the other govt ministers actually had/have the virus. Just my view and a certain degree of irony in rather their version of it than the real one. Virus. " Charlie old boy looked awful though | |||
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"I don’t believe Boris, chas, or the other govt ministers actually had/have the virus. Just my view and a certain degree of irony in rather their version of it than the real one. Virus. Charlie old boy looked awful though " Think bojo finally got the memo to take the tie off and look more disheveled than normal though. | |||
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"Looking back I most definitely had it round Hogmanay time. Never been so ill In my life. Raging temperature, cough, sore throat, aches and pains and no energy for two weeks and signed off work. Docs pasted it off as laryngitis but I’ve had that before and wasn’t like that. " Same symptoms as when I had the flu a few years ago. Unless you've been tested then you can't say you've definitely had it. | |||
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"I don’t believe Boris, chas, or the other govt ministers actually had/have the virus. Just my view and a certain degree of irony in rather their version of it than the real one. Virus. Charlie old boy looked awful though " He always looks awful. To me he looks like a drinker. Last week we were told he had the virus and today he opened the new hospital. So much for having to be isolated for 14days. | |||
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"I don’t believe Boris, chas, or the other govt ministers actually had/have the virus. Just my view and a certain degree of irony in rather their version of it than the real one. Virus. Charlie old boy looked awful though He always looks awful. To me he looks like a drinker. Last week we were told he had the virus and today he opened the new hospital. So much for having to be isolated for 14days." You will find the infected need to self isolate for 7 days from the sign of symptoms, only longer if the symptoms are still there after the 7 days has lapsed. It's 14 days for other people in the house. Thats the advice given from 111. So like my daughter, after 7 days he could be back up and looking fine. | |||
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"I don’t believe Boris, chas, or the other govt ministers actually had/have the virus. Just my view and a certain degree of irony in rather their version of it than the real one. Virus. Charlie old boy looked awful though He always looks awful. To me he looks like a drinker. Last week we were told he had the virus and today he opened the new hospital. So much for having to be isolated for 14days. You will find the infected need to self isolate for 7 days from the sign of symptoms, only longer if the symptoms are still there after the 7 days has lapsed. It's 14 days for other people in the house. Thats the advice given from 111. So like my daughter, after 7 days he could be back up and looking fine." You could be feeling better and not showing any signs after 7 days but still infect people. The WHO advice is 14 days. I’d be more inclined to listen to them. | |||
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"I don’t believe Boris, chas, or the other govt ministers actually had/have the virus. Just my view and a certain degree of irony in rather their version of it than the real one. Virus. Charlie old boy looked awful though He always looks awful. To me he looks like a drinker. Last week we were told he had the virus and today he opened the new hospital. So much for having to be isolated for 14days." He opened a London hospital while still in Scotland. Work that out | |||
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" You could be feeling better and not showing any signs after 7 days but still infect people. " So your saying the info on the NHS website is wrong. ? The advice given over 111 to my daughter was wrong too. ? Maybe you should publish your own information leaflet for us all so we get the facts berring as our government and nhs clearly don't have a clue what thir talking about eh. | |||
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" You could be feeling better and not showing any signs after 7 days but still infect people. So your saying the info on the NHS website is wrong. ? The advice given over 111 to my daughter was wrong too. ? Maybe you should publish your own information leaflet for us all so we get the facts berring as our government and nhs clearly don't have a clue what thir talking about eh. " What I actually said was I’m more inclined to follow WHO advice. | |||
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" You could be feeling better and not showing any signs after 7 days but still infect people. So your saying the info on the NHS website is wrong. ? The advice given over 111 to my daughter was wrong too. ? Maybe you should publish your own information leaflet for us all so we get the facts berring as our government and nhs clearly don't have a clue what thir talking about eh. What I actually said was I’m more inclined to follow WHO advice. " I'm struggling to find the WHO guidance that states to self isolate for 14 days after showing symptoms. Can you help? They do say to self isolate for 14 days after visiting an infected area and not showing symptoms. They also say to distance yourself by a metre. Which is less than the uk govt recommendations. I look forward being pointed in the right direction as i3 like to keep as well informed as I can. Thanks. Stay healthy. | |||
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"And just to add insult to injury, it seems anyone can get tested for Covid-19, if they can afford it. There's several private labs now offering test kits for sale for upwards of £225. So if you're wealthy you can know for sure if you've got it, the rest of us - including the health workers who'll end up looking after the wealthy - just need to guess. Not often I say it but this is one instance where the government should step in and insist that capacity be given over to the NHS." Hammond finally answered when pushed regarding bojo, himself, being tested and doctors etc not and I quote “people in a position of power” let that sink in Be wary of test kits. Plenty fakes. | |||
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" You could be feeling better and not showing any signs after 7 days but still infect people. So your saying the info on the NHS website is wrong. ? The advice given over 111 to my daughter was wrong too. ? Maybe you should publish your own information leaflet for us all so we get the facts berring as our government and nhs clearly don't have a clue what thir talking about eh. What I actually said was I’m more inclined to follow WHO advice. I'm struggling to find the WHO guidance that states to self isolate for 14 days after showing symptoms. Can you help? They do say to self isolate for 14 days after visiting an infected area and not showing symptoms. They also say to distance yourself by a metre. Which is less than the uk govt recommendations. I look forward being pointed in the right direction as i3 like to keep as well informed as I can. Thanks. Stay healthy. " The govt were saying a metre to start with then 2 metres. The govt allowed Cheltenham and concerts to go ahead. The gov continue to allow flights from Heathrow to land with no checks for passengers. You can interpret the WHO advice how you like just as I’ve interpreted it. You’ll remember bojo interview where he admitted shaking hands and continue to shake hands with corona patients. The WHO currently advises 14 days of quarantine for those likely to have come into contact with other Covid-19 patients. WHO also says national and local governments are “best placed to advise on what people in your area should be doing to protect themselves”. Obviously OUR govt aren’t doing a very good job. | |||
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" You could be feeling better and not showing any signs after 7 days but still infect people. So your saying the info on the NHS website is wrong. ? The advice given over 111 to my daughter was wrong too. ? Maybe you should publish your own information leaflet for us all so we get the facts berring as our government and nhs clearly don't have a clue what thir talking about eh. What I actually said was I’m more inclined to follow WHO advice. I'm struggling to find the WHO guidance that states to self isolate for 14 days after showing symptoms. Can you help? They do say to self isolate for 14 days after visiting an infected area and not showing symptoms. They also say to distance yourself by a metre. Which is less than the uk govt recommendations. I look forward being pointed in the right direction as i3 like to keep as well informed as I can. Thanks. Stay healthy. The govt were saying a metre to start with then 2 metres. The govt allowed Cheltenham and concerts to go ahead. The gov continue to allow flights from Heathrow to land with no checks for passengers. You can interpret the WHO advice how you like just as I’ve interpreted it. You’ll remember bojo interview where he admitted shaking hands and continue to shake hands with corona patients. The WHO currently advises 14 days of quarantine for those likely to have come into contact with other Covid-19 patients. WHO also says national and local governments are “best placed to advise on what people in your area should be doing to protect themselves”. Obviously OUR govt aren’t doing a very good job. " Just do we're clear, it's you're interpretation of the WHO advice that you're following, NOT WHO advice. It's always important to make the distinction. Too much opinion is stated as fact on all forums. Misinformation spreads easily and can almost be as dangerous as the issue it's talking about (ODing on anti malaria drugs for example). What you are willing to do is above and beyond excellent. I hope you don't have to self isolate yourself for 14 days. All the best. | |||
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" You could be feeling better and not showing any signs after 7 days but still infect people. So your saying the info on the NHS website is wrong. ? The advice given over 111 to my daughter was wrong too. ? Maybe you should publish your own information leaflet for us all so we get the facts berring as our government and nhs clearly don't have a clue what thir talking about eh. What I actually said was I’m more inclined to follow WHO advice. I'm struggling to find the WHO guidance that states to self isolate for 14 days after showing symptoms. Can you help? They do say to self isolate for 14 days after visiting an infected area and not showing symptoms. They also say to distance yourself by a metre. Which is less than the uk govt recommendations. I look forward being pointed in the right direction as i3 like to keep as well informed as I can. Thanks. Stay healthy. The govt were saying a metre to start with then 2 metres. The govt allowed Cheltenham and concerts to go ahead. The gov continue to allow flights from Heathrow to land with no checks for passengers. You can interpret the WHO advice how you like just as I’ve interpreted it. You’ll remember bojo interview where he admitted shaking hands and continue to shake hands with corona patients. The WHO currently advises 14 days of quarantine for those likely to have come into contact with other Covid-19 patients. WHO also says national and local governments are “best placed to advise on what people in your area should be doing to protect themselves”. Obviously OUR govt aren’t doing a very good job. Just do we're clear, it's you're interpretation of the WHO advice that you're following, NOT WHO advice. It's always important to make the distinction. Too much opinion is stated as fact on all forums. Misinformation spreads easily and can almost be as dangerous as the issue it's talking about (ODing on anti malaria drugs for example). What you are willing to do is above and beyond excellent. I hope you don't have to self isolate yourself for 14 days. All the best. " On the front line it’s only a matter of time I’d say. Cheers though | |||
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"Looking back I most definitely had it round Hogmanay time. Never been so ill In my life. Raging temperature, cough, sore throat, aches and pains and no energy for two weeks and signed off work. Docs pasted it off as laryngitis but I’ve had that before and wasn’t like that. Same symptoms as when I had the flu a few years ago. Unless you've been tested then you can't say you've definitely had it. Few years back I had the flu, ended up in hospital and tested for it. What I had earlier this year was a hell of a lot worse. " | |||
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"In hospital with it just now" Hope you get better soon mate. | |||
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"In hospital with it just now" Wishing you a speedy recovery xxx | |||
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"I tested positive for covid19. I was ill for 6 days and couldn’t get out of bed. I’m slowly getting better and this is day 12 xx " Good on you | |||
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"Every time I read that people think they had it before February I have to try so hard not to roll my eyes Look at how quickly people are dying, while we know it exists and are actively trying to prevent the spread with mass global lockdown Do you really think we had sporadic cases of it from September to January and people were just surviving and not transmitting by luck? There isn't even proof it had mutated to transfer from human to human until mid January so unless you were all hanging about the market in Wuhan you had some other winter virus and still have to be very careful My own sister had a 3 day bad cold and has now convinced herself she has antibody immunity something else that hasn’t even been proven is possible yet Oh and someone said there is only 1 virus but there are apparently already 2 strains and any vaccine needs to be able to cover both " I think your underestimating just how contagious this virus is while at the same time not grasping how diverse it can be some folk who have tested positive showed mild or no signs theres also cases of asymptomatic carriers who have no ill effects but simply carry and spread most health body's are also In agreement that there are now multiple strains as for timescales who knows exactly when or even how it originated they have guesstimates but nothing concrete. Where i am just now there are cases of folk having mild cold symptoms and muscle pains in Nov who have since tested positive. I agree their are alot of folk convincing themselves wrongly that they have it theres even crazies trying to catch it believing they cant get again so fancy their chances it doesn't help the conflicting advice given by different health organisations right now I'm having to follow protocols that our health organisation says could even be dangerous | |||
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" I think your underestimating just how contagious this virus is while at the same time not grasping how diverse it can be some folk who have tested positive showed mild or no signs theres also cases of asymptomatic carriers who have no ill effects but simply carry and spread most health body's are also In agreement that there are now multiple strains as for timescales who knows exactly when or even how it originated they have guesstimates but nothing concrete. Where i am just now there are cases of folk having mild cold symptoms and muscle pains in Nov who have since tested positive. I agree their are alot of folk convincing themselves wrongly that they have it theres even crazies trying to catch it believing they cant get again so fancy their chances it doesn't help the conflicting advice given by different health organisations right now I'm having to follow protocols that our health organisation says could even be dangerous" No i think my point was it is highly contagious so if it was kicking about mid to late last year undiagnosed and no measures in place to contain, i doubt it would have taken til february to be named a pandemic and be causing such serious symptoms, issues and high rate of spread Mild cold symptoms in November and covid this year are not mutually exclusive, it is possible to have had both and for 2 different reasons, i could test positive for covid now and have had muscle pain, a cough and a fever at any time in the last year (or my life) and it not be remotelt related ... those are the most common symptoms of the majority of viral infections Basically in short the science and math doesn’t stack up to it existing last year, personal belief these people had some other (perhaps still nasty) virus | |||
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" I think your underestimating just how contagious this virus is while at the same time not grasping how diverse it can be some folk who have tested positive showed mild or no signs theres also cases of asymptomatic carriers who have no ill effects but simply carry and spread most health body's are also In agreement that there are now multiple strains as for timescales who knows exactly when or even how it originated they have guesstimates but nothing concrete. Where i am just now there are cases of folk having mild cold symptoms and muscle pains in Nov who have since tested positive. I agree their are alot of folk convincing themselves wrongly that they have it theres even crazies trying to catch it believing they cant get again so fancy their chances it doesn't help the conflicting advice given by different health organisations right now I'm having to follow protocols that our health organisation says could even be dangerous No i think my point was it is highly contagious so if it was kicking about mid to late last year undiagnosed and no measures in place to contain, i doubt it would have taken til february to be named a pandemic and be causing such serious symptoms, issues and high rate of spread Mild cold symptoms in November and covid this year are not mutually exclusive, it is possible to have had both and for 2 different reasons, i could test positive for covid now and have had muscle pain, a cough and a fever at any time in the last year (or my life) and it not be remotelt related ... those are the most common symptoms of the majority of viral infections Basically in short the science and math doesn’t stack up to it existing last year, personal belief these people had some other (perhaps still nasty) virus" I get what your saying though the country I'm in has carried out tests on folk with symptoms last year (Oct nov) who have tested positive for the virus I (personal view that follows this health organisation)believe there was/is different strains. The math and science do say it's been present since last year maybe not recognised as a global pandemic at those times but never the less present the mutations also would take time remember at its heart this pandemic is part of the corona strains which have been around for years (read the back of a dettol bottle it kills corona thats been on the bottle for yrs)the UK's response imo has been to soft I'm under curfew every night police are arresting folk who do not follow govt guidelines anyone caught in a social gathering is arrested with a hefty fine towns and city's sealing themselves off with only food and medical supplies able to cross disinfecting stations and temp stations all around isolation centres the keep any positives away from normal patients my sis has sent many pics of folk swaning about beaches out for a drive in convertibles mad dashing Asda's driving instructors still giving lessons and many other examples that's the bigger problem as I see it | |||
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"Every time I read that people think they had it before February I have to try so hard not to roll my eyes Look at how quickly people are dying, while we know it exists and are actively trying to prevent the spread with mass global lockdown Do you really think we had sporadic cases of it from September to January and people were just surviving and not transmitting by luck? There isn't even proof it had mutated to transfer from human to human until mid January so unless you were all hanging about the market in Wuhan you had some other winter virus and still have to be very careful My own sister had a 3 day bad cold and has now convinced herself she has antibody immunity something else that hasn’t even been proven is possible yet Oh and someone said there is only 1 virus but there are apparently already 2 strains and any vaccine needs to be able to cover both " Kenny Dalglish has tested positive for Covid-19 coronavirus and is in hospital but is showing no symptoms, his family have announced So can even have this disease without even knowing it . He was admitted with an infection | |||
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"Kenny Dalglish has tested positive for Covid-19 coronavirus and is in hospital but is showing no symptoms, his family have announced So can even have this disease without even knowing it . He was admitted with an infection " I’m not debating that people can be asymptomatic ... thats proven I’m just saying that in under 2 months of it hitting britain we have daily death tolls of around 1000 people ... that is how quickly this spread and how deadly it is Unless they have hugely miscalculated the incubation period its not possible that we had it in the uk last year, unchecked, undiagnosed and no measures in place to stop the spread because those deaths would have made it apparently obvious I don’t doubt these people were sick and that it was probably a bad virus, but the science shows it can’t have been what we are fighting now | |||
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"Kenny Dalglish has tested positive for Covid-19 coronavirus and is in hospital but is showing no symptoms, his family have announced So can even have this disease without even knowing it . He was admitted with an infection I’m not debating that people can be asymptomatic ... thats proven I’m just saying that in under 2 months of it hitting britain we have daily death tolls of around 1000 people ... that is how quickly this spread and how deadly it is Unless they have hugely miscalculated the incubation period its not possible that we had it in the uk last year, unchecked, undiagnosed and no measures in place to stop the spread because those deaths would have made it apparently obvious I don’t doubt these people were sick and that it was probably a bad virus, but the science shows it can’t have been what we are fighting now " https://metro.co.uk/2020/04/18/coronavirus-may-started-september-scientists-say-12576961/?ito=social | |||
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"Kenny Dalglish has tested positive for Covid-19 coronavirus and is in hospital but is showing no symptoms, his family have announced So can even have this disease without even knowing it . He was admitted with an infection I’m not debating that people can be asymptomatic ... thats proven I’m just saying that in under 2 months of it hitting britain we have daily death tolls of around 1000 people ... that is how quickly this spread and how deadly it is Unless they have hugely miscalculated the incubation period its not possible that we had it in the uk last year, unchecked, undiagnosed and no measures in place to stop the spread because those deaths would have made it apparently obvious I don’t doubt these people were sick and that it was probably a bad virus, but the science shows it can’t have been what we are fighting now https://metro.co.uk/2020/04/18/coronavirus-may-started-september-scientists-say-12576961/?ito=social" That news article contains so much speculation that even the source openly states “Dr Foster accepts that his estimate could be wrong” | |||
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"Kenny Dalglish has tested positive for Covid-19 coronavirus and is in hospital but is showing no symptoms, his family have announced So can even have this disease without even knowing it . He was admitted with an infection I’m not debating that people can be asymptomatic ... thats proven I’m just saying that in under 2 months of it hitting britain we have daily death tolls of around 1000 people ... that is how quickly this spread and how deadly it is Unless they have hugely miscalculated the incubation period its not possible that we had it in the uk last year, unchecked, undiagnosed and no measures in place to stop the spread because those deaths would have made it apparently obvious I don’t doubt these people were sick and that it was probably a bad virus, but the science shows it can’t have been what we are fighting now https://metro.co.uk/2020/04/18/coronavirus-may-started-september-scientists-say-12576961/?ito=social That news article contains so much speculation that even the source openly states “Dr Foster accepts that his estimate could be wrong” " Could be wrong or could be right for all we know | |||
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"Think I will stick with the message from the majority of experts rather than with the word of one guy who openly admits there is a huge chance he is wrong ... thats how conspiracy theories start " | |||
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