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"I have a theory - feedback appreciated... Boris is basically appealing to the public to avoid public places and thereby starving pubs and restaurants of customers by suggestion. This means the businesses has to close down temporarily (or permanently) as a result of a loss of turnover and simply “going out of business.” So what if the Govt passed emergency legislation and demanded that these businesses closed for say 90 days. My theory is that in this instance, the small businesses may have a valid insurance claim because they were forced to close down. I don’t know if Force Majeur would apply but collectively - all affected businesses could collectively act together to get a result. I think that Johnson has just given the insurance companies a defacto bailout at the cost of hundreds of thousands of small businesses. Would appreciate some feedback from small business owners who rely on footfall and who are insured." Dither and delay | |||
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"I have a theory - feedback appreciated... Boris is basically appealing to the public to avoid public places and thereby starving pubs and restaurants of customers by suggestion. This means the businesses has to close down temporarily (or permanently) as a result of a loss of turnover and simply “going out of business.” So what if the Govt passed emergency legislation and demanded that these businesses closed for say 90 days. My theory is that in this instance, the small businesses may have a valid insurance claim because they were forced to close down. I don’t know if Force Majeur would apply but collectively - all affected businesses could collectively act together to get a result. I think that Johnson has just given the insurance companies a defacto bailout at the cost of hundreds of thousands of small businesses. Would appreciate some feedback from small business owners who rely on footfall and who are insured." Maybe some truth in what you say but he is doing it a very British way. | |||
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"It’s about time people took responsibility for their own health instead of blaming everything on the government. You wanna go to a bear/ restaurant ? - go right ahead. You wanna stay home ?. No probs. By now , even the stupid ppl know the problem / the risks. So make your own fucking choices . Snowflakes" ******************** Totally spot-on. Eva | |||
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"I have a theory - feedback appreciated... Boris is basically appealing to the public to avoid public places and thereby starving pubs and restaurants of customers by suggestion. This means the businesses has to close down temporarily (or permanently) as a result of a loss of turnover and simply “going out of business.” So what if the Govt passed emergency legislation and demanded that these businesses closed for say 90 days. My theory is that in this instance, the small businesses may have a valid insurance claim because they were forced to close down. I don’t know if Force Majeur would apply but collectively - all affected businesses could collectively act together to get a result. I think that Johnson has just given the insurance companies a defacto bailout at the cost of hundreds of thousands of small businesses. Would appreciate some feedback from small business owners who rely on footfall and who are insured." This is 100% accurate. About the insurance companies that the Conservative party represent. I know several small venue owners. And they are fucked unless he tells them to shut. | |||
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"I have a theory - feedback appreciated... Boris is basically appealing to the public to avoid public places and thereby starving pubs and restaurants of customers by suggestion. This means the businesses has to close down temporarily (or permanently) as a result of a loss of turnover and simply “going out of business.” So what if the Govt passed emergency legislation and demanded that these businesses closed for say 90 days. My theory is that in this instance, the small businesses may have a valid insurance claim because they were forced to close down. I don’t know if Force Majeur would apply but collectively - all affected businesses could collectively act together to get a result. I think that Johnson has just given the insurance companies a defacto bailout at the cost of hundreds of thousands of small businesses. Would appreciate some feedback from small business owners who rely on footfall and who are insured." I believe you are absolutely hitting it on the nail. Always follow the money.....There will be ever more decisions made with exactly that in mind. | |||
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"It’s about time people took responsibility for their own health instead of blaming everything on the government. You wanna go to a bear/ restaurant ? - go right ahead. You wanna stay home ?. No probs. By now , even the stupid ppl know the problem / the risks. So make your own fucking choices . Snowflakes" There is no way on earth I am going to a bear restaurant, sounds very dangerous | |||
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"It’s about time people took responsibility for their own health instead of blaming everything on the government. You wanna go to a bear/ restaurant ? - go right ahead. You wanna stay home ?. No probs. By now , even the stupid ppl know the problem / the risks. So make your own fucking choices . Snowflakes There is no way on earth I am going to a bear restaurant, sounds very dangerous " Snowflake | |||
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"It’s about time people took responsibility for their own health instead of blaming everything on the government. You wanna go to a bear/ restaurant ? - go right ahead. You wanna stay home ?. No probs. By now , even the stupid ppl know the problem / the risks. So make your own fucking choices . Snowflakes There is no way on earth I am going to a bear restaurant, sounds very dangerous Snowflake" I know, I am not as tough as the the gammon folk on here | |||
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"It’s about time people took responsibility for their own health instead of blaming everything on the government. You wanna go to a bear/ restaurant ? - go right ahead. You wanna stay home ?. No probs. By now , even the stupid ppl know the problem / the risks. So make your own fucking choices . Snowflakes There is no way on earth I am going to a bear restaurant, sounds very dangerous Snowflake I know, I am not as tough as the the gammon folk on here "Tough gammon. That's a restaurant I'd go to during a lockdown. | |||
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"It’s about time people took responsibility for their own health instead of blaming everything on the government. You wanna go to a bear/ restaurant ? - go right ahead. You wanna stay home ?. No probs. By now , even the stupid ppl know the problem / the risks. So make your own fucking choices . Snowflakes There is no way on earth I am going to a bear restaurant, sounds very dangerous Snowflake I know, I am not as tough as the the gammon folk on here
Tough gammon. That's a restaurant I'd go to during a lockdown."Not sure if we are allowed to go, you have to show proof of voting for Brexit and wear a ‘I luv Tommeh’ t shirt to get in  | |||
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"It’s about time people took responsibility for their own health instead of blaming everything on the government. You wanna go to a bear/ restaurant ? - go right ahead. You wanna stay home ?. No probs. By now , even the stupid ppl know the problem / the risks. So make your own fucking choices . Snowflakes" How does that answer the question raised in the post? Is this Boris giving the insurance companies a defacto bailout? Remember that Gordon Brown bailed out the banks in 2008 to protect big business. There is an argument that the economy and the balance sheet of UK PLC would be in better shape today had he given every man, woman and child £100,000. So what so we expect from a Conservative Govt? Helping out small businesses and ordinary people - or helping the insurance companies? | |||
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"I have a theory - feedback appreciated... Boris is basically appealing to the public to avoid public places and thereby starving pubs and restaurants of customers by suggestion. This means the businesses has to close down temporarily (or permanently) as a result of a loss of turnover and simply “going out of business.” So what if the Govt passed emergency legislation and demanded that these businesses closed for say 90 days. My theory is that in this instance, the small businesses may have a valid insurance claim because they were forced to close down. I don’t know if Force Majeur would apply but collectively - all affected businesses could collectively act together to get a result. I think that Johnson has just given the insurance companies a defacto bailout at the cost of hundreds of thousands of small businesses. Would appreciate some feedback from small business owners who rely on footfall and who are insured.Maybe some truth in what you say but he is doing it a very British way." What does that mean? Does doing things a very British way translate into fucking your voters once you have their vote? | |||
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"I have a theory - feedback appreciated... Boris is basically appealing to the public to avoid public places and thereby starving pubs and restaurants of customers by suggestion. This means the businesses has to close down temporarily (or permanently) as a result of a loss of turnover and simply “going out of business.” So what if the Govt passed emergency legislation and demanded that these businesses closed for say 90 days. My theory is that in this instance, the small businesses may have a valid insurance claim because they were forced to close down. I don’t know if Force Majeur would apply but collectively - all affected businesses could collectively act together to get a result. I think that Johnson has just given the insurance companies a defacto bailout at the cost of hundreds of thousands of small businesses. Would appreciate some feedback from small business owners who rely on footfall and who are insured.Maybe some truth in what you say but he is doing it a very British way. What does that mean? Does doing things a very British way translate into fucking your voters once you have their vote?" doing it the British way caused me to spit my coffee out due to howling lol , it's a very berxiteer response don't you think ?? | |||
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"I don’t know if this is correct but apparently if the government orders pubs clubs etc to close then they are liable to cover the cost of loss of warnings Boris is obviously such a greedy stupid cunt that he doesn’t want to do that - so nobody goes out, places go out of business which means more unemployed more benefits being paid out and taxes go up to cover the increase Well done Boris good chap " Oops meant to be earnings | |||
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"If Boris officially shuts bars and restaurants imagine all the irresponsible wankers emptying supermarket shelves and leaving others to go hungry." already done that mate, whisky, wine, Champaign, gin and beers, enough to last a year or two | |||
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"I think that Johnson has just given the insurance companies a defacto bailout at the cost of hundreds of thousands of small businesses." Pretty much. He knows who his real friends are. | |||
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"Personally can't see the point in shuting bars and restaurants if he's not gonna stop public transport or other places of work as its just as easy if not easier to catch it from those too Everyone has a choice about visiting a bar or restaurant but if he's allowing places of work to remain open then most people need money to pay bills and mortgages these won't halt during the crisis so many will continue to work " There is no right or wrong answer here. The government will be damned if they don't act to help small business's and damned if they do. This virus has burrowed it's way into the big flaw in capitalism. The chinese have shown that an authoritarian state with a sort of pseudo capitalism, with communism flavours can succeed in delaying or defeating this virus. I doubt very much if we can have the same discipline to do the same. We have led too cushy a life. | |||
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"It’s about time people took responsibility for their own health instead of blaming everything on the government. You wanna go to a bear/ restaurant ? - go right ahead. You wanna stay home ?. No probs. By now , even the stupid ppl know the problem / the risks. So make your own fucking choices . Snowflakes ******************** Totally spot-on. Eva" I agree | |||
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"Personally can't see the point in shuting bars and restaurants if he's not gonna stop public transport or other places of work as its just as easy if not easier to catch it from those too Everyone has a choice about visiting a bar or restaurant but if he's allowing places of work to remain open then most people need money to pay bills and mortgages these won't halt during the crisis so many will continue to work There is no right or wrong answer here. The government will be damned if they don't act to help small business's and damned if they do. This virus has burrowed it's way into the big flaw in capitalism. The chinese have shown that an authoritarian state with a sort of pseudo capitalism, with communism flavours can succeed in delaying or defeating this virus. I doubt very much if we can have the same discipline to do the same. We have led too cushy a life." There is a right answer for big corporations. Which is the wrong answer for normal people. Welcome to the Tory party. They get voted in again and again, no matter how many ordinary people suffer or die. The literally could not give a fuck about anybody or anything apart from the corporate interests they represent. | |||
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"Personally can't see the point in shuting bars and restaurants if he's not gonna stop public transport or other places of work as its just as easy if not easier to catch it from those too Everyone has a choice about visiting a bar or restaurant but if he's allowing places of work to remain open then most people need money to pay bills and mortgages these won't halt during the crisis so many will continue to work There is no right or wrong answer here. The government will be damned if they don't act to help small business's and damned if they do. This virus has burrowed it's way into the big flaw in capitalism. The chinese have shown that an authoritarian state with a sort of pseudo capitalism, with communism flavours can succeed in delaying or defeating this virus. I doubt very much if we can have the same discipline to do the same. We have led too cushy a life. There is a right answer for big corporations. Which is the wrong answer for normal people. Welcome to the Tory party. They get voted in again and again, no matter how many ordinary people suffer or die. The literally could not give a fuck about anybody or anything apart from the corporate interests they represent." So what is the labour parties great plan for this then? love the different ways you can find to bash the tories well done comrade. | |||
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"Personally can't see the point in shuting bars and restaurants if he's not gonna stop public transport or other places of work as its just as easy if not easier to catch it from those too Everyone has a choice about visiting a bar or restaurant but if he's allowing places of work to remain open then most people need money to pay bills and mortgages these won't halt during the crisis so many will continue to work There is no right or wrong answer here. The government will be damned if they don't act to help small business's and damned if they do. This virus has burrowed it's way into the big flaw in capitalism. The chinese have shown that an authoritarian state with a sort of pseudo capitalism, with communism flavours can succeed in delaying or defeating this virus. I doubt very much if we can have the same discipline to do the same. We have led too cushy a life. There is a right answer for big corporations. Which is the wrong answer for normal people. Welcome to the Tory party. They get voted in again and again, no matter how many ordinary people suffer or die. The literally could not give a fuck about anybody or anything apart from the corporate interests they represent.So what is the labour parties great plan for this then? love the different ways you can find to bash the tories well done comrade. "No clue. Not a labour party supporter. Labour are not in power. You can attempt to deflect attention to another political party all you like. But that doesn't somehow magically make the Tories any better. | |||
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"Personally can't see the point in shuting bars and restaurants if he's not gonna stop public transport or other places of work as its just as easy if not easier to catch it from those too Everyone has a choice about visiting a bar or restaurant but if he's allowing places of work to remain open then most people need money to pay bills and mortgages these won't halt during the crisis so many will continue to work There is no right or wrong answer here. The government will be damned if they don't act to help small business's and damned if they do. This virus has burrowed it's way into the big flaw in capitalism. The chinese have shown that an authoritarian state with a sort of pseudo capitalism, with communism flavours can succeed in delaying or defeating this virus. I doubt very much if we can have the same discipline to do the same. We have led too cushy a life. There is a right answer for big corporations. Which is the wrong answer for normal people. Welcome to the Tory party. They get voted in again and again, no matter how many ordinary people suffer or die. The literally could not give a fuck about anybody or anything apart from the corporate interests they represent.So what is the labour parties great plan for this then? love the different ways you can find to bash the tories well done comrade.
No clue. Not a labour party supporter. Labour are not in power.
You can attempt to deflect attention to another political party all you like. But that doesn't somehow magically make the Tories any better.
"im not attempting to deflect from anything all i see you do on here is bash the tories which you are in your right to do but not coming up with an alternative solution suggests to me you are either obsessed with boris or just anti establishment. | |||
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"Personally can't see the point in shuting bars and restaurants if he's not gonna stop public transport or other places of work as its just as easy if not easier to catch it from those too Everyone has a choice about visiting a bar or restaurant but if he's allowing places of work to remain open then most people need money to pay bills and mortgages these won't halt during the crisis so many will continue to work There is no right or wrong answer here. The government will be damned if they don't act to help small business's and damned if they do. This virus has burrowed it's way into the big flaw in capitalism. The chinese have shown that an authoritarian state with a sort of pseudo capitalism, with communism flavours can succeed in delaying or defeating this virus. I doubt very much if we can have the same discipline to do the same. We have led too cushy a life. There is a right answer for big corporations. Which is the wrong answer for normal people. Welcome to the Tory party. They get voted in again and again, no matter how many ordinary people suffer or die. The literally could not give a fuck about anybody or anything apart from the corporate interests they represent." I thought the "ordinary people" voted them in. Time after time. Some of the "leftist" comments on here recently have been rather cringeworthy. Unless the left sort themselves out, then they aren't even going to be close to having a turn... For a very long while. | |||
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"Personally can't see the point in shuting bars and restaurants if he's not gonna stop public transport or other places of work as its just as easy if not easier to catch it from those too Everyone has a choice about visiting a bar or restaurant but if he's allowing places of work to remain open then most people need money to pay bills and mortgages these won't halt during the crisis so many will continue to work There is no right or wrong answer here. The government will be damned if they don't act to help small business's and damned if they do. This virus has burrowed it's way into the big flaw in capitalism. The chinese have shown that an authoritarian state with a sort of pseudo capitalism, with communism flavours can succeed in delaying or defeating this virus. I doubt very much if we can have the same discipline to do the same. We have led too cushy a life. There is a right answer for big corporations. Which is the wrong answer for normal people. Welcome to the Tory party. They get voted in again and again, no matter how many ordinary people suffer or die. The literally could not give a fuck about anybody or anything apart from the corporate interests they represent.So what is the labour parties great plan for this then? love the different ways you can find to bash the tories well done comrade.
No clue. Not a labour party supporter. Labour are not in power.
You can attempt to deflect attention to another political party all you like. But that doesn't somehow magically make the Tories any better.
im not attempting to deflect from anything all i see you do on here is bash the tories which you are in your right to do but not coming up with an alternative solution suggests to me you are either obsessed with boris or just anti establishment. "You're right. We should all comply. Do as we're told, accept our place as serfs to the Tory overlords. | |||
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"Personally can't see the point in shuting bars and restaurants if he's not gonna stop public transport or other places of work as its just as easy if not easier to catch it from those too Everyone has a choice about visiting a bar or restaurant but if he's allowing places of work to remain open then most people need money to pay bills and mortgages these won't halt during the crisis so many will continue to work There is no right or wrong answer here. The government will be damned if they don't act to help small business's and damned if they do. This virus has burrowed it's way into the big flaw in capitalism. The chinese have shown that an authoritarian state with a sort of pseudo capitalism, with communism flavours can succeed in delaying or defeating this virus. I doubt very much if we can have the same discipline to do the same. We have led too cushy a life. There is a right answer for big corporations. Which is the wrong answer for normal people. Welcome to the Tory party. They get voted in again and again, no matter how many ordinary people suffer or die. The literally could not give a fuck about anybody or anything apart from the corporate interests they represent. I thought the "ordinary people" voted them in. Time after time. Some of the "leftist" comments on here recently have been rather cringeworthy. Unless the left sort themselves out, then they aren't even going to be close to having a turn... For a very long while. " You're almost asking the right questions... Why did "ordinary" people vote them in. That's the point. | |||
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"No clue. Not a labour party supporter. Labour are not in power. You can attempt to deflect attention to another political party all you like. But that doesn't somehow magically make the Tories any better. im not attempting to deflect from anything all i see you do on here is bash the tories which you are in your right to do but not coming up with an alternative solution suggests to me you are either obsessed with boris or just anti establishment. " ********************* Or maybe just simpleton, jobless trolls like many others........ Ho hum. Eva  | |||
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"It doesn't matter which party is leading the country non of them would of done the right thing for the lower working class they would do what's right for them FACT" ******************* Get a bl**dy grip man and just act your age. Eva | |||
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"No clue. Not a labour party supporter. Labour are not in power. You can attempt to deflect attention to another political party all you like. But that doesn't somehow magically make the Tories any better. im not attempting to deflect from anything all i see you do on here is bash the tories which you are in your right to do but not coming up with an alternative solution suggests to me you are either obsessed with boris or just anti establishment. ********************* Or maybe just simpleton, jobless trolls like many others........ Ho hum. Eva "So people who don't comply with and support the oppressive ruling party are "jobless trolls". It amazes me how many people shoot down anyone who speaks out against the government. | |||
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"No clue. Not a labour party supporter. Labour are not in power. You can attempt to deflect attention to another political party all you like. But that doesn't somehow magically make the Tories any better. im not attempting to deflect from anything all i see you do on here is bash the tories which you are in your right to do but not coming up with an alternative solution suggests to me you are either obsessed with boris or just anti establishment. ********************* Or maybe just simpleton, jobless trolls like many others........ Ho hum. Eva
So people who don't comply with and support the oppressive ruling party are "jobless trolls".
It amazes me how many people shoot down anyone who speaks out against the government."what about us retired pensioners, you missed us | |||
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"Coronavirus is a man made virus developed by the Chinese to combat their over population that gone tits up world wide. Hows that for a conspiracy." I'll panic buy some tin foil to make more hats.  | |||
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"It’s about time people took responsibility for their own health instead of blaming everything on the government. You wanna go to a bear/ restaurant ? - go right ahead. You wanna stay home ?. No probs. By now , even the stupid ppl know the problem / the risks. So make your own fucking choices . Snowflakes" I find that it's mostly the people who throw around the snowflake jibe, who are the ones who can't take the slightest criticism without having a hissy fit. Tossers the lot of them.  | |||
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"It’s about time people took responsibility for their own health instead of blaming everything on the government. You wanna go to a bear/ restaurant ? - go right ahead. You wanna stay home ?. No probs. By now , even the stupid ppl know the problem / the risks. So make your own fucking choices . Snowflakes I find that it's mostly the people who throw around the snowflake jibe, who are the ones who can't take the slightest criticism without having a hissy fit. Tossers the lot of them. " | |||
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"I have a theory - feedback appreciated... Boris is basically appealing to the public to avoid public places and thereby starving pubs and restaurants of customers by suggestion. This means the businesses has to close down temporarily (or permanently) as a result of a loss of turnover and simply “going out of business.” So what if the Govt passed emergency legislation and demanded that these businesses closed for say 90 days. My theory is that in this instance, the small businesses may have a valid insurance claim because they were forced to close down. I don’t know if Force Majeur would apply but collectively - all affected businesses could collectively act together to get a result. I think that Johnson has just given the insurance companies a defacto bailout at the cost of hundreds of thousands of small businesses. Would appreciate some feedback from small business owners who rely on footfall and who are insured." I think that once he and Dom realised that the 'herd immunity' approach was going to leave the NHS crippled and too many people dead, they've had to revise their plans and are now making up policy on the hoof. They are not thinking things through properly before making decisions, and making mistakes like this along the way. Or he could be in the pockets of the insurance companies. Who knows with Johnson? | |||
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"No clue. Not a labour party supporter. Labour are not in power. You can attempt to deflect attention to another political party all you like. But that doesn't somehow magically make the Tories any better. im not attempting to deflect from anything all i see you do on here is bash the tories which you are in your right to do but not coming up with an alternative solution suggests to me you are either obsessed with boris or just anti establishment. ********************* Or maybe just simpleton, jobless trolls like many others........ Ho hum. Eva
So people who don't comply with and support the oppressive ruling party are "jobless trolls".
It amazes me how many people shoot down anyone who speaks out against the government."******************** Look, I'm not in the habit of engaging in 'debate' with fools but, 1)....... No-one as yet has to mandatory comply with the governments' reccommendations, 2)......."Oppressive ruling party....??!" and finally, 3)....... I said "maybe", not 'are' I don't hurl rude insults at anyone in particular, if you care to read any comments I post on here. Eva | |||
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"So we now need to be told whether we can go to a pub or not, why cant people use their brains to consider their options and make a decision for ourselves, and if you think businesses can claim on insurance to cover their losses think again, most policies will have clauses to exclude loss of earnings from this sort of cause and even if they dont where the hell do you think they will get the money from ? It's like all the idiots that think they will get their holiday money back, everyone paying £50 to cover a 2 grand holiday and then thinking they will all get 2 grand back, even diane abbott can work out they the insures will all go bust they just dont have the funds to cover it ( ok perhaps diane couldnt work it out)" Are you following all the recent advice given by the government? | |||
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"So we now need to be told whether we can go to a pub or not, why cant people use their brains to consider their options and make a decision for ourselves, and if you think businesses can claim on insurance to cover their losses think again, most policies will have clauses to exclude loss of earnings from this sort of cause and even if they dont where the hell do you think they will get the money from ? It's like all the idiots that think they will get their holiday money back, everyone paying £50 to cover a 2 grand holiday and then thinking they will all get 2 grand back, even diane abbott can work out they the insures will all go bust they just dont have the funds to cover it ( ok perhaps diane couldnt work it out) Are you following all the recent advice given by the government? " You keep claiming the government isnt giving out advice, I've told you several times what my view is and what I'm doing perhaps that is your problem, very short attention span | |||
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"You're all over thinking it Boris Johnson is a useless, clueless, self centered, rude cunt Always was always will be." Does that go for the chief medical advisor too? | |||
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"You're all over thinking it Boris Johnson is a useless, clueless, self centered, rude cunt Always was always will be.Does that go for the chief medical advisor too?" Nope | |||
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"You're all over thinking it Boris Johnson is a useless, clueless, self centered, rude cunt Always was always will be.Does that go for the chief medical advisor too? Nope" by the way your theory has just been shot out of the water by the chancellor insurance companies are obliged to pay out on the advice given by the government it doesn't need to shut everything down for this to happen,maybe he reads your posts. | |||
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"He just has...plus leisure centres" This is taking the piss now, we're sleepwalking towards living in a police state. | |||
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"Italy locked down for 3 weeks now and deaths still happening ...is this a waste of time ..only the fit survive animal instincts " "Only the fit survive animal instincts". Just think about that for a moment. | |||
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"Italy locked down for 3 weeks now and deaths still happening ...is this a waste of time ..only the fit survive animal instincts " Fucking hell... give Cummings a call, he'd welcome someone like you on his team. -Matt | |||
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"He just has...plus leisure centres This is taking the piss now, we're sleepwalking towards living in a police state." Get a grip ffs. Living in a police state. Really? | |||
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"He just has...plus leisure centres This is taking the piss now, we're sleepwalking towards living in a police state." you should watch Sky News just now, the amount of twats in the "full" bars drinking, you cant get moved in the bars, no wonder this has had to come into force then listen to the young men being interviewed, its laughable, guys like that need to be kept off the streets | |||
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"Italy locked down for 3 weeks now and deaths still happening ...is this a waste of time ..only the fit survive animal instincts " Figures can be misleading and they could go into reverse but the lockdown hasn't worked yet and it's been nearly two weeks, the Italian government must be getting very worried that it hasn't | |||
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"Italy locked down for 3 weeks now and deaths still happening ...is this a waste of time ..only the fit survive animal instincts " You still don't understand what coronavirus is and how it spreads, etc. But it doesn't surprise me that you can't understand it. | |||
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"He just has...plus leisure centres This is taking the piss now, we're sleepwalking towards living in a police state. Get a grip ffs. Living in a police state. Really? " Not yet, but I don't wanna get to the point where the police start kicking people in the street | |||
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"He just has...plus leisure centres This is taking the piss now, we're sleepwalking towards living in a police state. you should watch Sky News just now, the amount of twats in the "full" bars drinking, you cant get moved in the bars, no wonder this has had to come into force then listen to the young men being interviewed, its laughable, guys like that need to be kept off the streets" He did warn people what would happen if they ignored the advice. Some ignored it, but I suspect it was going to happen anyway. | |||
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"He just has...plus leisure centres This is taking the piss now, we're sleepwalking towards living in a police state. Get a grip ffs. Living in a police state. Really? Not yet, but I don't wanna get to the point where the police start kicking people in the street" Why on earth would the police start kicking people in the streets? Are you living in some sort of parallel universe to the rest of us? | |||
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"He just has...plus leisure centres This is taking the piss now, we're sleepwalking towards living in a police state. Get a grip ffs. Living in a police state. Really? Not yet, but I don't wanna get to the point where the police start kicking people in the street Why on earth would the police start kicking people in the streets? Are you living in some sort of parallel universe to the rest of us?" No, just watching the news from France. | |||
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"Personally can't see the point in shuting bars and restaurants if he's not gonna stop public transport or other places of work as its just as easy if not easier to catch it from those too Everyone has a choice about visiting a bar or restaurant but if he's allowing places of work to remain open then most people need money to pay bills and mortgages these won't halt during the crisis so many will continue to work There is no right or wrong answer here. The government will be damned if they don't act to help small business's and damned if they do. This virus has burrowed it's way into the big flaw in capitalism. The chinese have shown that an authoritarian state with a sort of pseudo capitalism, with communism flavours can succeed in delaying or defeating this virus. I doubt very much if we can have the same discipline to do the same. We have led too cushy a life. There is a right answer for big corporations. Which is the wrong answer for normal people. Welcome to the Tory party. They get voted in again and again, no matter how many ordinary people suffer or die. The literally could not give a fuck about anybody or anything apart from the corporate interests they represent. I thought the "ordinary people" voted them in. Time after time. Some of the "leftist" comments on here recently have been rather cringeworthy. Unless the left sort themselves out, then they aren't even going to be close to having a turn... For a very long while. " I agree. Trying to score party political points while we face a national crisis is not going to win many votes for the left. Whilst I often agree with a lot of what thet say now is not the time for party politics. Where we think the government has got it wrong, whether it's school closers, area lockdowns, salary subsidies, border controls or anything else we should say so, but all this Tory bashing just looks partisan to me. Now is not the time. | |||
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"Personally can't see the point in shuting bars and restaurants if he's not gonna stop public transport or other places of work as its just as easy if not easier to catch it from those too Everyone has a choice about visiting a bar or restaurant but if he's allowing places of work to remain open then most people need money to pay bills and mortgages these won't halt during the crisis so many will continue to work There is no right or wrong answer here. The government will be damned if they don't act to help small business's and damned if they do. This virus has burrowed it's way into the big flaw in capitalism. The chinese have shown that an authoritarian state with a sort of pseudo capitalism, with communism flavours can succeed in delaying or defeating this virus. I doubt very much if we can have the same discipline to do the same. We have led too cushy a life. There is a right answer for big corporations. Which is the wrong answer for normal people. Welcome to the Tory party. They get voted in again and again, no matter how many ordinary people suffer or die. The literally could not give a fuck about anybody or anything apart from the corporate interests they represent. I thought the "ordinary people" voted them in. Time after time. Some of the "leftist" comments on here recently have been rather cringeworthy. Unless the left sort themselves out, then they aren't even going to be close to having a turn... For a very long while. You're almost asking the right questions... Why did "ordinary" people vote them in. That's the point." Because, rightly or wrongly, they believed the alternative offered by Jeremy and his friends would have been even worse. Of the people I canvases back in December last year, of those that didn't want a Tory BREXIT most wanted even less a Corbyn Government. That's why the Tories won. They had most of the BREXIT and most of the ABC vote too (Anyone But Corbyn). | |||
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"Italy had its first confirmed case a day before the UK. Looking at the statistics of both the UK and Italy then I think we can count ourselves lucky " It's hard to compare the outbreak country to country as different cultures behave and interact in different ways. Also the mortality statistics are interesting too, it seems to be more deadly to Italians whereas Romania has yet to claim a single fatality from the virus? | |||
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"Italy had its first confirmed case a day before the UK. Looking at the statistics of both the UK and Italy then I think we can count ourselves lucky " as, an Italian citizen has stated "living in Italy today is like living in hell the UK needs to heed the warning of what may soon come our way | |||
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"Well I'm sure one couple on here are giving the government advice ....as they seem to be experts in everything ....wow you are brill ...twats" Yeah and one guy too with all the new announcements on paying peoples wages seems to have blown "the tories are only looking after their mates" theory right out the water.Seem to be giving this thread a wide berth now. | |||
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"Well I'm sure one couple on here are giving the government advice ....as they seem to be experts in everything ....wow you are brill ...twatsYeah and one guy too with all the new announcements on paying peoples wages seems to have blown "the tories are only looking after their mates" theory right out the water.Seem to be giving this thread a wide berth now. " | |||
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"Well I'm sure one couple on here are giving the government advice ....as they seem to be experts in everything ....wow you are brill ...twatsYeah and one guy too with all the new announcements on paying peoples wages seems to have blown "the tories are only looking after their mates" theory right out the water.Seem to be giving this thread a wide berth now. "So now that the Tories have done something to help some people. Are you losing faith in them? | |||
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"Well I'm sure one couple on here are giving the government advice ....as they seem to be experts in everything ....wow you are brill ...twats" Well, No one has to be an expert to be able to think logically. However, not everyone has this skill | |||
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"It’s about time people took responsibility for their own health instead of blaming everything on the government. You wanna go to a bear/ restaurant ? - go right ahead. You wanna stay home ?. No probs. By now , even the stupid ppl know the problem / the risks. So make your own fucking choices . Snowflakes" Stupid people, behaving wrecklessly and consequently catching Corona Virus will help to overwhelm the NHS. There are times when people need to be constrained and the freedoms curtailed. Now is the time | |||
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"Well I'm sure one couple on here are giving the government advice ....as they seem to be experts in everything ....wow you are brill ...twatsYeah and one guy too with all the new announcements on paying peoples wages seems to have blown "the tories are only looking after their mates" theory right out the water.Seem to be giving this thread a wide berth now.
So now that the Tories have done something to help some people. Are you losing faith in them?"Not at all im not one of these blinkered people who think that being a tory means you dont give a toss about people less fortunate unlike some i could mention on here.I do notice the lack of posts on here saying i got it wrong again though. | |||
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"Well I'm sure one couple on here are giving the government advice ....as they seem to be experts in everything ....wow you are brill ...twatsYeah and one guy too with all the new announcements on paying peoples wages seems to have blown "the tories are only looking after their mates" theory right out the water.Seem to be giving this thread a wide berth now.
So now that the Tories have done something to help some people. Are you losing faith in them?Not at all im not one of these blinkered people who think that being a tory means you dont give a toss about people less fortunate unlike some i could mention on here.I do notice the lack of posts on here saying i got it wrong again though. "Fair enough. So after however many years in power the Tories finally make one decision to benefit the citizens of this country. So you personally aren't put off, but is this shift in direction likely to backfire with the electorate? | |||
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"Well I'm sure one couple on here are giving the government advice ....as they seem to be experts in everything ....wow you are brill ...twatsYeah and one guy too with all the new announcements on paying peoples wages seems to have blown "the tories are only looking after their mates" theory right out the water.Seem to be giving this thread a wide berth now.
So now that the Tories have done something to help some people. Are you losing faith in them?Not at all im not one of these blinkered people who think that being a tory means you dont give a toss about people less fortunate unlike some i could mention on here.I do notice the lack of posts on here saying i got it wrong again though.
Fair enough. So after however many years in power the Tories finally make one decision to benefit the citizens of this country.
So you personally aren't put off, but is this shift in direction likely to backfire with the electorate? "The trouble with your point of view is that the electorate disagree with it, so does that make them all old thick and racist or you wrong ? Sometimes, just sometimes when your a lone voice or in a minority that means you are wrong, doesn't mean you cant hold those views but doesn't make you right | |||
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"Well I'm sure one couple on here are giving the government advice ....as they seem to be experts in everything ....wow you are brill ...twatsYeah and one guy too with all the new announcements on paying peoples wages seems to have blown "the tories are only looking after their mates" theory right out the water.Seem to be giving this thread a wide berth now.
So now that the Tories have done something to help some people. Are you losing faith in them?Not at all im not one of these blinkered people who think that being a tory means you dont give a toss about people less fortunate unlike some i could mention on here.I do notice the lack of posts on here saying i got it wrong again though.
Fair enough. So after however many years in power the Tories finally make one decision to benefit the citizens of this country.
So you personally aren't put off, but is this shift in direction likely to backfire with the electorate?
The trouble with your point of view is that the electorate disagree with it, so does that make them all old thick and racist or you wrong ? Sometimes, just sometimes when your a lone voice or in a minority that means you are wrong, doesn't mean you cant hold those views but doesn't make you right"Wrong about what? I was just asking if the radical change in direction of the Tory party will alienate their core support? To clarify. I am not part of the Tory parties core support. | |||
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"Well I'm sure one couple on here are giving the government advice ....as they seem to be experts in everything ....wow you are brill ...twatsYeah and one guy too with all the new announcements on paying peoples wages seems to have blown "the tories are only looking after their mates" theory right out the water.Seem to be giving this thread a wide berth now.
So now that the Tories have done something to help some people. Are you losing faith in them?Not at all im not one of these blinkered people who think that being a tory means you dont give a toss about people less fortunate unlike some i could mention on here.I do notice the lack of posts on here saying i got it wrong again though.
Fair enough. So after however many years in power the Tories finally make one decision to benefit the citizens of this country.
So you personally aren't put off, but is this shift in direction likely to backfire with the electorate? "That is your point of view,yes this crisis will undo the 10 years of austerity but has put the government in a lot better position to help the uk in its hour of need.No of course it wont backfire with the electorate as the majority are just normal sensible people who understand the situation. | |||
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"Well I'm sure one couple on here are giving the government advice ....as they seem to be experts in everything ....wow you are brill ...twatsYeah and one guy too with all the new announcements on paying peoples wages seems to have blown "the tories are only looking after their mates" theory right out the water.Seem to be giving this thread a wide berth now.
So now that the Tories have done something to help some people. Are you losing faith in them?Not at all im not one of these blinkered people who think that being a tory means you dont give a toss about people less fortunate unlike some i could mention on here.I do notice the lack of posts on here saying i got it wrong again though.
Fair enough. So after however many years in power the Tories finally make one decision to benefit the citizens of this country.
So you personally aren't put off, but is this shift in direction likely to backfire with the electorate? That is your point of view,yes this crisis will undo the 10 years of austerity but has put the government in a lot better position to help the uk in its hour of need.No of course it wont backfire with the electorate as the majority are just normal sensible people who understand the situation. "So "normal sensible" people will be hankering for the end of this temporary period of the government helping them. And looking forward to getting back to the good old days of austerity? Also. None of this is my point of view. I am asking a question. To double clarify - I am not a Tory supporter. | |||
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"Well I'm sure one couple on here are giving the government advice ....as they seem to be experts in everything ....wow you are brill ...twatsYeah and one guy too with all the new announcements on paying peoples wages seems to have blown "the tories are only looking after their mates" theory right out the water.Seem to be giving this thread a wide berth now.
So now that the Tories have done something to help some people. Are you losing faith in them?Not at all im not one of these blinkered people who think that being a tory means you dont give a toss about people less fortunate unlike some i could mention on here.I do notice the lack of posts on here saying i got it wrong again though.
Fair enough. So after however many years in power the Tories finally make one decision to benefit the citizens of this country.
So you personally aren't put off, but is this shift in direction likely to backfire with the electorate? That is your point of view,yes this crisis will undo the 10 years of austerity but has put the government in a lot better position to help the uk in its hour of need.No of course it wont backfire with the electorate as the majority are just normal sensible people who understand the situation.
So "normal sensible" people will be hankering for the end of this temporary period of the government helping them. And looking forward to getting back to the good old days of austerity?
Also. None of this is my point of view. I am asking a question. To double clarify - I am not a Tory supporter. "There is unfortunately going to be more austerity when this is all over or a large tax hike that is inevitable what ever government was in power.You dont need to clarify that i think i worked that out by myself .If you dont think we will all be paying for this for years to come you are deluded. | |||
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"Well I'm sure one couple on here are giving the government advice ....as they seem to be experts in everything ....wow you are brill ...twatsYeah and one guy too with all the new announcements on paying peoples wages seems to have blown "the tories are only looking after their mates" theory right out the water.Seem to be giving this thread a wide berth now.
So now that the Tories have done something to help some people. Are you losing faith in them?Not at all im not one of these blinkered people who think that being a tory means you dont give a toss about people less fortunate unlike some i could mention on here.I do notice the lack of posts on here saying i got it wrong again though.
Fair enough. So after however many years in power the Tories finally make one decision to benefit the citizens of this country.
So you personally aren't put off, but is this shift in direction likely to backfire with the electorate? That is your point of view,yes this crisis will undo the 10 years of austerity but has put the government in a lot better position to help the uk in its hour of need.No of course it wont backfire with the electorate as the majority are just normal sensible people who understand the situation.
So "normal sensible" people will be hankering for the end of this temporary period of the government helping them. And looking forward to getting back to the good old days of austerity?
Also. None of this is my point of view. I am asking a question. To double clarify - I am not a Tory supporter. There is unfortunately going to be more austerity when this is all over or a large tax hike that is inevitable what ever government was in power.You dont need to clarify that i think i worked that out by myself .If you dont think we will all be paying for this for years to come you are deluded."I'm not suggesting anything. Just curious what Tory supporting types think. And you told me what you think. Which was good. Ta. | |||
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"Wonder what the great jezza would of done if he was in power ...lol" Maybe more than a clown | |||
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"Wonder what the great jezza would of done if he was in power ...lol Maybe more than a clown "what clown? | |||
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"Wonder what the great jezza would of done if he was in power ...lol Maybe more than a clown what clown?"A bumbling one with silly hair and lots of cash resting in offshore accounts. | |||
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"Wonder what the great jezza would of done if he was in power ...lol Maybe more than a clown "What do you think he would have done differently? | |||
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"Wonder what the great jezza would of done if he was in power ...lol Maybe more than a clown
What do you think he would have done differently?"Dont go asking questions that require a bit of thinking to answer. | |||
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"Wonder what the great jezza would of done if he was in power ...lol Maybe more than a clown
What do you think he would have done differently?"You mean apart from follow all the medical and scientific advice? Or be prepared to amend strategy based on changing advice and improving knowledge? Or any of the emergency measures bought in over the last weeks? I'm sure the self confessed fab experts will have lots
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"Wonder what the great jezza would of done if he was in power ...lol Maybe more than a clown
What do you think he would have done differently?"You could just look at what Labour are saying. If you genuinely wanted to know. | |||
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"Wonder what the great jezza would of done if he was in power ...lol Maybe more than a clown
What do you think he would have done differently?
You could just look at what Labour are saying. If you genuinely wanted to know."Just had a quick google, Corbyn is refusing to self isolate, also heard David Blunket on radio earlier this week also saying he won’t be taking himself out of the firing line and it was his right to become a burden on the NHS. McDonald says he would have underwritten 90% of wages, really just political posturing. Would be genuinely interested to know any other measures that the government could do. Though of course it’s easy to say what you would have done when you have hindsight and no responsibility Phil.. | |||
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"Wonder what the great jezza would of done if he was in power ...lol Maybe more than a clown
What do you think he would have done differently?
You could just look at what Labour are saying. If you genuinely wanted to know.
Just had a quick google, Corbyn is refusing to self isolate, also heard David Blunket on radio earlier this week also saying he won’t be taking himself out of the firing line and it was his right to become a burden on the NHS.
McDonald says he would have underwritten 90% of wages, really just political posturing.
Would be genuinely interested to know any other measures that the government could do.
Though of course it’s easy to say what you would have done when you have hindsight and no responsibility
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"Well there you go. You didn't seem to find most of the stuff that they said. Would appear that you looked for stuff to bash them with. Personally I think the government was a little slow to react. Ireland for example, acted quicker. And it would be good to see some more help for self employed people. Other than that they've made the right calls (except the herd immunity thing). They could probably stop trying to make life hard for non-uk nationals who work in the NHS. But that's not specific to the reaction to the pandemic. | |||
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"Wonder what the great jezza would of done if he was in power ...lol Maybe more than a clown
What do you think he would have done differently?
You could just look at what Labour are saying. If you genuinely wanted to know.
Just had a quick google, Corbyn is refusing to self isolate, also heard David Blunket on radio earlier this week also saying he won’t be taking himself out of the firing line and it was his right to become a burden on the NHS.
McDonald says he would have underwritten 90% of wages, really just political posturing.
Would be genuinely interested to know any other measures that the government could do.
Though of course it’s easy to say what you would have done when you have hindsight and no responsibility
Phil..
Well there you go. You didn't seem to find most of the stuff that they said.
Would appear that you looked for stuff to bash them with.
Personally I think the government was a little slow to react. Ireland for example, acted quicker. And it would be good to see some more help for self employed people.
Other than that they've made the right calls (except the herd immunity thing).
They could probably stop trying to make life hard for non-uk nationals who work in the NHS. But that's not specific to the reaction to the pandemic. "So enlighten me | |||
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"Wonder what the great jezza would of done if he was in power ...lol Maybe more than a clown
What do you think he would have done differently?
You could just look at what Labour are saying. If you genuinely wanted to know.
Just had a quick google, Corbyn is refusing to self isolate, also heard David Blunket on radio earlier this week also saying he won’t be taking himself out of the firing line and it was his right to become a burden on the NHS.
McDonald says he would have underwritten 90% of wages, really just political posturing.
Would be genuinely interested to know any other measures that the government could do.
Though of course it’s easy to say what you would have done when you have hindsight and no responsibility
Phil..
Well there you go. You didn't seem to find most of the stuff that they said.
Would appear that you looked for stuff to bash them with.
Personally I think the government was a little slow to react. Ireland for example, acted quicker. And it would be good to see some more help for self employed people.
Other than that they've made the right calls (except the herd immunity thing).
They could probably stop trying to make life hard for non-uk nationals who work in the NHS. But that's not specific to the reaction to the pandemic. "So basically you agree with the government then. | |||
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"Wonder what the great jezza would of done if he was in power ...lol Maybe more than a clown
What do you think he would have done differently?
You could just look at what Labour are saying. If you genuinely wanted to know.
Just had a quick google, Corbyn is refusing to self isolate, also heard David Blunket on radio earlier this week also saying he won’t be taking himself out of the firing line and it was his right to become a burden on the NHS.
McDonald says he would have underwritten 90% of wages, really just political posturing.
Would be genuinely interested to know any other measures that the government could do.
Though of course it’s easy to say what you would have done when you have hindsight and no responsibility
Phil..
Well there you go. You didn't seem to find most of the stuff that they said.
Would appear that you looked for stuff to bash them with.
Personally I think the government was a little slow to react. Ireland for example, acted quicker. And it would be good to see some more help for self employed people.
Other than that they've made the right calls (except the herd immunity thing).
They could probably stop trying to make life hard for non-uk nationals who work in the NHS. But that's not specific to the reaction to the pandemic.
So enlighten me"With what? I don't especially care what Labour say, or if you read what they said or not. They spoke live on the news a few times that I saw in the last few days. I was more interested in talking about the governments reaction. And I am interested how conservative party supporters feel about what they're doing. It's a huge swing towards socialism. Not my words Lynn. The words of the Telegraph news paper. | |||
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"Wonder what the great jezza would of done if he was in power ...lol Maybe more than a clown
What do you think he would have done differently?
You could just look at what Labour are saying. If you genuinely wanted to know.
Just had a quick google, Corbyn is refusing to self isolate, also heard David Blunket on radio earlier this week also saying he won’t be taking himself out of the firing line and it was his right to become a burden on the NHS.
McDonald says he would have underwritten 90% of wages, really just political posturing.
Would be genuinely interested to know any other measures that the government could do.
Though of course it’s easy to say what you would have done when you have hindsight and no responsibility
Phil..
Well there you go. You didn't seem to find most of the stuff that they said.
Would appear that you looked for stuff to bash them with.
Personally I think the government was a little slow to react. Ireland for example, acted quicker. And it would be good to see some more help for self employed people.
Other than that they've made the right calls (except the herd immunity thing).
They could probably stop trying to make life hard for non-uk nationals who work in the NHS. But that's not specific to the reaction to the pandemic.
So enlighten me
With what? I don't especially care what Labour say, or if you read what they said or not.
They spoke live on the news a few times that I saw in the last few days.
I was more interested in talking about the governments reaction.
And I am interested how conservative party supporters feel about what they're doing. It's a huge swing towards socialism. Not my words Lynn. The words of the Telegraph news paper. "Ah right got it now, you you think because the telegraph says its a huge swing to socialism that tory supports might feel the same.Personally i dont think it is,the government is doing under extremely exceptional circumstances what is needed for the country to recover quickly and business to thrive. | |||
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"Wonder what the great jezza would of done if he was in power ...lol Maybe more than a clown
What do you think he would have done differently?
You could just look at what Labour are saying. If you genuinely wanted to know.
Just had a quick google, Corbyn is refusing to self isolate, also heard David Blunket on radio earlier this week also saying he won’t be taking himself out of the firing line and it was his right to become a burden on the NHS.
McDonald says he would have underwritten 90% of wages, really just political posturing.
Would be genuinely interested to know any other measures that the government could do.
Though of course it’s easy to say what you would have done when you have hindsight and no responsibility
Phil..
Well there you go. You didn't seem to find most of the stuff that they said.
Would appear that you looked for stuff to bash them with.
Personally I think the government was a little slow to react. Ireland for example, acted quicker. And it would be good to see some more help for self employed people.
Other than that they've made the right calls (except the herd immunity thing).
They could probably stop trying to make life hard for non-uk nationals who work in the NHS. But that's not specific to the reaction to the pandemic.
So enlighten me
With what? I don't especially care what Labour say, or if you read what they said or not.
They spoke live on the news a few times that I saw in the last few days.
I was more interested in talking about the governments reaction.
And I am interested how conservative party supporters feel about what they're doing. It's a huge swing towards socialism. Not my words Lynn. The words of the Telegraph news paper. Ah right got it now, you you think because the telegraph says its a huge swing to socialism that tory supports might feel the same.Personally i dont think it is,the government is doing under extremely exceptional circumstances what is needed for the country to recover quickly and business to thrive. "So you're saying that helping people is just a way to indirectly support big business? | |||
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"Wonder what the great jezza would of done if he was in power ...lol Maybe more than a clown
What do you think he would have done differently?
You could just look at what Labour are saying. If you genuinely wanted to know.
Just had a quick google, Corbyn is refusing to self isolate, also heard David Blunket on radio earlier this week also saying he won’t be taking himself out of the firing line and it was his right to become a burden on the NHS.
McDonald says he would have underwritten 90% of wages, really just political posturing.
Would be genuinely interested to know any other measures that the government could do.
Though of course it’s easy to say what you would have done when you have hindsight and no responsibility
Phil..
Well there you go. You didn't seem to find most of the stuff that they said.
Would appear that you looked for stuff to bash them with.
Personally I think the government was a little slow to react. Ireland for example, acted quicker. And it would be good to see some more help for self employed people.
Other than that they've made the right calls (except the herd immunity thing).
They could probably stop trying to make life hard for non-uk nationals who work in the NHS. But that's not specific to the reaction to the pandemic.
So enlighten me
With what? I don't especially care what Labour say, or if you read what they said or not.
They spoke live on the news a few times that I saw in the last few days.
I was more interested in talking about the governments reaction.
And I am interested how conservative party supporters feel about what they're doing. It's a huge swing towards socialism. Not my words Lynn. The words of the Telegraph news paper. Ah right got it now, you you think because the telegraph says its a huge swing to socialism that tory supports might feel the same.Personally i dont think it is,the government is doing under extremely exceptional circumstances what is needed for the country to recover quickly and business to thrive.
So you're saying that helping people is just a way to indirectly support big business?"It helps everyone, people keep their jobs business keep their employees and as ready to go when they get the all clear.What cant you understand about that? its a win win situation for everyone. | |||
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