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"Yesterday - as Italy was on Corona lockdown - the EU decided to fine Italy €7.5million for subsiding it’s tourism industry.
That should help. "Typical of the bloody Eu glad we are leaving more than ever | |||
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"Yesterday - as Italy was on Corona lockdown - the EU decided to fine Italy €7.5million for subsiding it’s tourism industry.
That should help. Typical of the bloody Eu glad we are leaving more than ever"We aren't leaving, we have left | |||
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"Yesterday - as Italy was on Corona lockdown - the EU decided to fine Italy €7.5million for subsiding it’s tourism industry.
That should help. Typical of the bloody Eu glad we are leaving more than ever
We aren't leaving, we have left "Sort off, apart from the fees we are still paying etc etc. I have a feeling the EU members will pull together and deal with this crisis better than the UK government. Time will tell , | |||
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"Yesterday - as Italy was on Corona lockdown - the EU decided to fine Italy €7.5million for subsiding it’s tourism industry.
That should help. Typical of the bloody Eu glad we are leaving more than ever
We aren't leaving, we have left
Sort off, apart from the fees we are still paying etc etc. I have a feeling the EU members will pull together and deal with this crisis better than the UK government. Time will tell , "What do you base your "feeling" on? | |||
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"Yesterday - as Italy was on Corona lockdown - the EU decided to fine Italy €7.5million for subsiding it’s tourism industry.
That should help. Typical of the bloody Eu glad we are leaving more than ever
We aren't leaving, we have left
Sort off, apart from the fees we are still paying etc etc. I have a feeling the EU members will pull together and deal with this crisis better than the UK government. Time will tell ,
What do you base your "feeling" on? "Same as you . | |||
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"Yesterday - as Italy was on Corona lockdown - the EU decided to fine Italy €7.5million for subsiding it’s tourism industry.
That should help. Typical of the bloody Eu glad we are leaving more than ever
We aren't leaving, we have left
Sort off, apart from the fees we are still paying etc etc. I have a feeling the EU members will pull together and deal with this crisis better than the UK government. Time will tell ,
What do you base your "feeling" on?
Same as you . "Says the man who thinks it can be stopped | |||
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"Yesterday - as Italy was on Corona lockdown - the EU decided to fine Italy €7.5million for subsiding it’s tourism industry.
That should help. Typical of the bloody Eu glad we are leaving more than ever
We aren't leaving, we have left
Sort off, apart from the fees we are still paying etc etc. I have a feeling the EU members will pull together and deal with this crisis better than the UK government. Time will tell ,
What do you base your "feeling" on?
Same as you . " | |||
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"Yesterday - as Italy was on Corona lockdown - the EU decided to fine Italy €7.5million for subsiding it’s tourism industry.
That should help. Typical of the bloody Eu glad we are leaving more than ever"Imagine if leaving the EU only cost us 7.5 mil! | |||
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"Yesterday - as Italy was on Corona lockdown - the EU decided to fine Italy €7.5million for subsiding it’s tourism industry.
That should help. Typical of the bloody Eu glad we are leaving more than ever
Imagine if leaving the EU only cost us 7.5 mil! "Would have cost us a lot more staying in can you imagine how much they would have wanted to bail out italy,spain etc after this has calmed down? | |||
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"Yesterday - as Italy was on Corona lockdown - the EU decided to fine Italy €7.5million for subsiding it’s tourism industry.
That should help. Typical of the bloody Eu glad we are leaving more than ever
We aren't leaving, we have left
Sort off, apart from the fees we are still paying etc etc. I have a feeling the EU members will pull together and deal with this crisis better than the UK government. Time will tell , "looks like Europe has been classed as the new epicentre of the virus by the WHO, looks like they need to pull together a bit more. | |||
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"Yesterday - as Italy was on Corona lockdown - the EU decided to fine Italy €7.5million for subsiding it’s tourism industry.
That should help. Typical of the bloody Eu glad we are leaving more than ever
We aren't leaving, we have left
Sort off, apart from the fees we are still paying etc etc. I have a feeling the EU members will pull together and deal with this crisis better than the UK government. Time will tell , looks like Europe has been classed as the new epicentre of the virus by the WHO, looks like they need to pull together a bit more."That's the last thing they should do!! | |||
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"Yesterday - as Italy was on Corona lockdown - the EU decided to fine Italy €7.5million for subsiding it’s tourism industry.
That should help. Typical of the bloody Eu glad we are leaving more than ever
We aren't leaving, we have left
Sort off, apart from the fees we are still paying etc etc. I have a feeling the EU members will pull together and deal with this crisis better than the UK government. Time will tell , looks like Europe has been classed as the new epicentre of the virus by the WHO, looks like they need to pull together a bit more.
That's the last thing they should do!!"True, I didn't mean it in such a literal sense thou, just a more joined up response. | |||
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"Yesterday - as Italy was on Corona lockdown - the EU decided to fine Italy €7.5million for subsiding it’s tourism industry.
That should help. Typical of the bloody Eu glad we are leaving more than ever
We aren't leaving, we have left
Sort off, apart from the fees we are still paying etc etc. I have a feeling the EU members will pull together and deal with this crisis better than the UK government. Time will tell , looks like Europe has been classed as the new epicentre of the virus by the WHO, looks like they need to pull together a bit more.
That's the last thing they should do!!True, I didn't mean it in such a literal sense thou, just a more joined up response." | |||
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"Yesterday - as Italy was on Corona lockdown - the EU decided to fine Italy €7.5million for subsiding it’s tourism industry.
That should help. Typical of the bloody Eu glad we are leaving more than ever
We aren't leaving, we have left
Sort off, apart from the fees we are still paying etc etc. I have a feeling the EU members will pull together and deal with this crisis better than the UK government. Time will tell ,
What do you base your "feeling" on?
Same as you .
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"Yesterday - as Italy was on Corona lockdown - the EU decided to fine Italy €7.5million for subsiding it’s tourism industry.
That should help. Typical of the bloody Eu glad we are leaving more than ever
We aren't leaving, we have left
Sort off, apart from the fees we are still paying etc etc. I have a feeling the EU members will pull together and deal with this crisis better than the UK government. Time will tell ,
What do you base your "feeling" on?
Same as you .
Says the man who thinks it can be stopped"I hope for your sake it can be stopped | |||
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"Yesterday - as Italy was on Corona lockdown - the EU decided to fine Italy €7.5million for subsiding it’s tourism industry.
That should help. "A court decision is made based on the evidence. That's how the law works. How do you think that the law should function? Should a decision change due to a completely unrelated matter? Are you less guilty of a crime if you catch the flu after you committed it? Dance for us. | |||
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"Italy were trying to unfairly give competition advantage to sardinia's tourism industry by giving them tax payers money/tax breaks (state aid). That's like our government giving money to London hotels to encourage tourism there but not hotels anywhere else in the country. Good on the EU courts for trying to make things fair." You didnt expect the Gammons to post up the full story did you.? | |||
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"Yesterday - as Italy was on Corona lockdown - the EU decided to fine Italy €7.5million for subsiding it’s tourism industry.
That should help. "So what if Italy gets EU funding: Coronavirus Response Investment Initiative -€853 million of liquidity -to be topped up by €1.6 billion from the EU budget -Moreover, be able to spend €9 billion of unallocated cohesion money, half of witch from EU budget. I'm sure it will help Italians. | |||
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"Yesterday - as Italy was on Corona lockdown - the EU decided to fine Italy €7.5million for subsiding it’s tourism industry.
That should help. Typical of the bloody Eu glad we are leaving more than ever
We aren't leaving, we have left
Sort off, apart from the fees we are still paying etc etc. I have a feeling the EU members will pull together and deal with this crisis better than the UK government. Time will tell , "EU pull together, pull the other one. You will get the usual pontificating from Brussels, backed up by Germany and France. The rest will be every man (in this case country) for himself. Just watch it unfold over the next few weeks. | |||
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"The rat man from france will tell us all what to do ....but he can't even run his own country....total twat " Don’t worry. Big fat orange Don has pulled his finger out and banned the UK from travelling to the USA. What do you think ? | |||
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"Make him right ...again ...well done the don ...America first ..." Yeah, the big fat orange don, one day the virus is ‘fake news’ and they will have zero cases , the next banning all flights from Europe and putting the country into a state of emergency. The orange man is comedy gold | |||
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"why didnt every country ban travel when this first started surely that would of helped slow the spread" And why does Boris make the same mistake? | |||
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"why didnt every country ban travel when this first started surely that would of helped slow the spread And why does Boris make the same mistake?" Dither and delay | |||
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"Yesterday - as Italy was on Corona lockdown - the EU decided to fine Italy €7.5million for subsiding it’s tourism industry.
That should help. Typical of the bloody Eu glad we are leaving more than ever
We aren't leaving, we have left "We are still in till the end of the year in real terms it | |||
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"Yesterday - as Italy was on Corona lockdown - the EU decided to fine Italy €7.5million for subsiding it’s tourism industry.
That should help. Typical of the bloody Eu glad we are leaving more than ever
We aren't leaving, we have left We are still in till the end of the year in real terms it"So what's it like? Not long ago you shouted that we left. Make up your mind finally. | |||
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"Typical EU. However, the nation who inflicted this on the world, the increasingly unaccoubrable China, are the ones who people should direct their anger toward, everything that surrounds Corona is a consequence of their fucking around with nature, in a nutshell. Still, if Corona did come from one if their Wuhan Chemical/Biological Warfare facilities at least they know it works now, don't they, eh? " If you want to get angry, you could focus on the UK leaders and what they are now doing. China has managed to get a decline in the virus infections, whereas the UK is going for a different strategy, not seeking to gain a global approach, whilst supporting greater levels of infection and deaths. A global crisis should have global strategies and countries working together as mature adults do. | |||
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"why didnt every country ban travel when this first started surely that would of helped slow the spread" Because you would bankrupt the planet. It also will only delay things by a few weeks. Not long enough to make any difference. | |||
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"Typical EU. However, the nation who inflicted this on the world, the increasingly unaccoubrable China, are the ones who people should direct their anger toward, everything that surrounds Corona is a consequence of their fucking around with nature, in a nutshell. Still, if Corona did come from one if their Wuhan Chemical/Biological Warfare facilities at least they know it works now, don't they, eh? " This is based on what information? Please post your source and explain why you think it's credible rather than conspiratorial, racist ranting  | |||
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"Typical EU. However, the nation who inflicted this on the world, the increasingly unaccoubrable China, are the ones who people should direct their anger toward, everything that surrounds Corona is a consequence of their fucking around with nature, in a nutshell. Still, if Corona did come from one if their Wuhan Chemical/Biological Warfare facilities at least they know it works now, don't they, eh? If you want to get angry, you could focus on the UK leaders and what they are now doing. China has managed to get a decline in the virus infections, whereas the UK is going for a different strategy, not seeking to gain a global approach, whilst supporting greater levels of infection and deaths. A global crisis should have global strategies and countries working together as mature adults do. " I disagree with your opinion on this. The logic of the UK approach seems perfectly credible. Just because it is different to that of other countries, that doesn't make it wrong. The historical precedent is that following quarantine there will then be reinfection. What will have changed? The illness has not been eliminated. One person will restart the epidemic. If there is enough low level infection and recovery then it cannot spread as easily as through an unprotected population. | |||
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"Typical EU. However, the nation who inflicted this on the world, the increasingly unaccoubrable China, are the ones who people should direct their anger toward, everything that surrounds Corona is a consequence of their fucking around with nature, in a nutshell. Still, if Corona did come from one if their Wuhan Chemical/Biological Warfare facilities at least they know it works now, don't they, eh? If you want to get angry, you could focus on the UK leaders and what they are now doing. China has managed to get a decline in the virus infections, whereas the UK is going for a different strategy, not seeking to gain a global approach, whilst supporting greater levels of infection and deaths. A global crisis should have global strategies and countries working together as mature adults do. I disagree with your opinion on this. The logic of the UK approach seems perfectly credible. Just because it is different to that of other countries, that doesn't make it wrong. The historical precedent is that following quarantine there will then be reinfection. What will have changed? The illness has not been eliminated. One person will restart the epidemic. If there is enough low level infection and recovery then it cannot spread as easily as through an unprotected population." There is a good video on youtube explaining with buckets of water how it is important to shut things down at the right time,to early or to late does not work. | |||
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"Typical EU. However, the nation who inflicted this on the world, the increasingly unaccoubrable China, are the ones who people should direct their anger toward, everything that surrounds Corona is a consequence of their fucking around with nature, in a nutshell. Still, if Corona did come from one if their Wuhan Chemical/Biological Warfare facilities at least they know it works now, don't they, eh? This is based on what information? Please post your source and explain why you think it's credible rather than conspiratorial, racist ranting "Where's the racism? | |||
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"why didnt every country ban travel when this first started surely that would of helped slow the spread" Italy was the first to ban flights from China. Worked out well ? | |||
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"why didnt every country ban travel when this first started surely that would of helped slow the spread Italy was the first to ban flights from China. Worked out well ?" Why is there soo much movement from China to Italy? | |||
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"why didnt every country ban travel when this first started surely that would of helped slow the spread And why does Boris make the same mistake? Dither and delay " Watch the you tube link i posted it explains everything in simple terms its not dither and delay as you seem to think. | |||
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"Typical EU. However, the nation who inflicted this on the world, the increasingly unaccoubrable China, are the ones who people should direct their anger toward, everything that surrounds Corona is a consequence of their fucking around with nature, in a nutshell. Still, if Corona did come from one if their Wuhan Chemical/Biological Warfare facilities at least they know it works now, don't they, eh? This is based on what information? Please post your source and explain why you think it's credible rather than conspiratorial, racist ranting
Where's the racism? "I am certainly generalising here in my characterisation. It's simply that many people are willing to think of China, or other ethnic or religious or political groups as being capable of doing things that they would dismiss out of hand for their "own". This is not unique. Demonising the "other" is hardly new. Pretending racism is not involved in the thinking is a fantasy. ...and yes, I also have prejudices which I am aware of that I actively have to address when I'm forming a judgement. | |||
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"why didnt every country ban travel when this first started surely that would of helped slow the spread Italy was the first to ban flights from China. Worked out well ? Why is there soo much movement from China to Italy?" Who says that there is? Define "so much". Dance for us. | |||
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" It's simply that many people are willing to think of China, or other ethnic or religious or political groups as being capable of doing things that they would dismiss out of hand for their "own". " In many of them cases people would be right so does that still make them racist? | |||
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"Typical EU. However, the nation who inflicted this on the world, the increasingly unaccoubrable China, are the ones who people should direct their anger toward, everything that surrounds Corona is a consequence of their fucking around with nature, in a nutshell. Still, if Corona did come from one if their Wuhan Chemical/Biological Warfare facilities at least they know it works now, don't they, eh? This is based on what information? Please post your source and explain why you think it's credible rather than conspiratorial, racist ranting
Where's the racism?
I am certainly generalising here in my characterisation.
It's simply that many people are willing to think of China, or other ethnic or religious or political groups as being capable of doing things that they would dismiss out of hand for their "own".
This is not unique. Demonising the "other" is hardly new.
Pretending racism is not involved in the thinking is a fantasy.
...and yes, I also have prejudices which I am aware of that I actively have to address when I'm forming a judgement."In my opinion, thinking that this is a plan of conspiracy from China is stupid. No way they could have done such a thing intentionally. Having said that, I hope China learns from it. This is not the first time the country has been a source of a viral disease. We still are not hundred percent sure about the exact source of it. Still, they should do something about their food hygiene. Not a big fan of telling what to eat and what not to eat. But the government should impose hygiene regulations on food and also the markets in which they are sold. Then they should make sure that the regulations are followed. | |||
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"Yesterday - as Italy was on Corona lockdown - the EU decided to fine Italy €7.5million for subsiding it’s tourism industry.
That should help. Typical of the bloody Eu glad we are leaving more than ever
We aren't leaving, we have left
Sort off, apart from the fees we are still paying etc etc. I have a feeling the EU members will pull together and deal with this crisis better than the UK government. Time will tell ,
EU pull together, pull the other one.
You will get the usual pontificating from Brussels, backed up by Germany and France.
The rest will be every man (in this case country) for himself.
Just watch it unfold over the next few weeks."The European Union has announced a series of measures to pool resources among its 27 members in order to help to fight coronavirus and protect national health services across the Continent. You were saying ?? | |||
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"Yesterday - as Italy was on Corona lockdown - the EU decided to fine Italy €7.5million for subsiding it’s tourism industry.
That should help. Typical of the bloody Eu glad we are leaving more than ever
We aren't leaving, we have left
Sort off, apart from the fees we are still paying etc etc. I have a feeling the EU members will pull together and deal with this crisis better than the UK government. Time will tell ,
EU pull together, pull the other one.
You will get the usual pontificating from Brussels, backed up by Germany and France.
The rest will be every man (in this case country) for himself.
Just watch it unfold over the next few weeks.
The European Union has announced a series of measures to pool resources among its 27 members in order to help to fight coronavirus and protect national health services across the Continent.
You were saying ??"Pool resources, hows that going to work? | |||
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"Yesterday - as Italy was on Corona lockdown - the EU decided to fine Italy €7.5million for subsiding it’s tourism industry.
That should help. Typical of the bloody Eu glad we are leaving more than ever
We aren't leaving, we have left
Sort off, apart from the fees we are still paying etc etc. I have a feeling the EU members will pull together and deal with this crisis better than the UK government. Time will tell ,
EU pull together, pull the other one.
You will get the usual pontificating from Brussels, backed up by Germany and France.
The rest will be every man (in this case country) for himself.
Just watch it unfold over the next few weeks.
The European Union has announced a series of measures to pool resources among its 27 members in order to help to fight coronavirus and protect national health services across the Continent.
You were saying ??Pool resources, hows that going to work?"do you want me to show you a YouTube video to help you understand | |||
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"I guess now we have left they need the money and...any excuse or opportunity, Italy is already in trouble financially so why pile on pressure, doesn't make sense when countries are now looking at the EU and asking is it a viable union, its acts like this that will bring it down completely " Pardon, you do realise all the 27 nations have to agree to this | |||
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"Yesterday - as Italy was on Corona lockdown - the EU decided to fine Italy €7.5million for subsiding it’s tourism industry.
That should help. Typical of the bloody Eu glad we are leaving more than ever
We aren't leaving, we have left
Sort off, apart from the fees we are still paying etc etc. I have a feeling the EU members will pull together and deal with this crisis better than the UK government. Time will tell ,
EU pull together, pull the other one.
You will get the usual pontificating from Brussels, backed up by Germany and France.
The rest will be every man (in this case country) for himself.
Just watch it unfold over the next few weeks.
The European Union has announced a series of measures to pool resources among its 27 members in order to help to fight coronavirus and protect national health services across the Continent.
You were saying ??Pool resources, hows that going to work?
do you want me to show you a YouTube video to help you understand "yes please as far as i can see they are all shutting their boarders so it would be very helpful. | |||
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"Yesterday - as Italy was on Corona lockdown - the EU decided to fine Italy €7.5million for subsiding it’s tourism industry.
That should help. Typical of the bloody Eu glad we are leaving more than ever
We aren't leaving, we have left
Sort off, apart from the fees we are still paying etc etc. I have a feeling the EU members will pull together and deal with this crisis better than the UK government. Time will tell ,
EU pull together, pull the other one.
You will get the usual pontificating from Brussels, backed up by Germany and France.
The rest will be every man (in this case country) for himself.
Just watch it unfold over the next few weeks.
The European Union has announced a series of measures to pool resources among its 27 members in order to help to fight coronavirus and protect national health services across the Continent.
You were saying ??Pool resources, hows that going to work?
do you want me to show you a YouTube video to help you understand
yes please as far as i can see they are all shutting their boarders so it would be very helpful."I didn't think EU states had the power to control their own borders..... Well I never.....  | |||
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"Yesterday - as Italy was on Corona lockdown - the EU decided to fine Italy €7.5million for subsiding it’s tourism industry.
That should help. Typical of the bloody Eu glad we are leaving more than ever
We aren't leaving, we have left
Sort off, apart from the fees we are still paying etc etc. I have a feeling the EU members will pull together and deal with this crisis better than the UK government. Time will tell ,
EU pull together, pull the other one.
You will get the usual pontificating from Brussels, backed up by Germany and France.
The rest will be every man (in this case country) for himself.
Just watch it unfold over the next few weeks.
The European Union has announced a series of measures to pool resources among its 27 members in order to help to fight coronavirus and protect national health services across the Continent.
You were saying ??Pool resources, hows that going to work?
do you want me to show you a YouTube video to help you understand
yes please as far as i can see they are all shutting their boarders so it would be very helpful.
I didn't think EU states had the power to control their own borders.....
Well I never..... "Yeah seems like the 1st sign of trouble and its fuck the rules. | |||
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" It's simply that many people are willing to think of China, or other ethnic or religious or political groups as being capable of doing things that they would dismiss out of hand for their "own". In many of them cases people would be right so does that still make them racist? " Obviously when I asked primarily about what the source of the conspiracy theory was and why it was credible, the most important thing to focus on was the throwaway comment at the end
In what cases would they be right? What cases are pertinent to a conspiracy theory about a China losing control of a "bioweapon" which kills indiscriminately? | |||
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"Yesterday - as Italy was on Corona lockdown - the EU decided to fine Italy €7.5million for subsiding it’s tourism industry.
That should help. Typical of the bloody Eu glad we are leaving more than ever
We aren't leaving, we have left
Sort off, apart from the fees we are still paying etc etc. I have a feeling the EU members will pull together and deal with this crisis better than the UK government. Time will tell ,
EU pull together, pull the other one.
You will get the usual pontificating from Brussels, backed up by Germany and France.
The rest will be every man (in this case country) for himself.
Just watch it unfold over the next few weeks.
The European Union has announced a series of measures to pool resources among its 27 members in order to help to fight coronavirus and protect national health services across the Continent.
You were saying ??Pool resources, hows that going to work?"Pooling resources is 27 countries distributing research and development resources and information so that they are not repeating the same work. More can get done than every country doing the same thing. Not that difficult a concept to grasp. | |||
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"Yesterday - as Italy was on Corona lockdown - the EU decided to fine Italy €7.5million for subsiding it’s tourism industry.
That should help. Typical of the bloody Eu glad we are leaving more than ever
We aren't leaving, we have left
Sort off, apart from the fees we are still paying etc etc. I have a feeling the EU members will pull together and deal with this crisis better than the UK government. Time will tell ,
EU pull together, pull the other one.
You will get the usual pontificating from Brussels, backed up by Germany and France.
The rest will be every man (in this case country) for himself.
Just watch it unfold over the next few weeks.
The European Union has announced a series of measures to pool resources among its 27 members in order to help to fight coronavirus and protect national health services across the Continent.
You were saying ??Pool resources, hows that going to work?
do you want me to show you a YouTube video to help you understand
yes please as far as i can see they are all shutting their boarders so it would be very helpful.
I didn't think EU states had the power to control their own borders.....
Well I never..... Yeah seems like the 1st sign of trouble and its fuck the rules. "This is from the European Commission. Guess what, we had the right to do all sorts of things in the EU. Who'd have guessed? "The Schengen Borders Code provides Member States with the capability of temporarily reintroducing border control at the internal borders in the event that a serious threat to public policy or internal security has been established. The reintroduction of border control at the internal borders must remain an exception and must respect the principle of proportionality. The scope and duration of such a temporary reintroduction of border control at the internal borders is limited in time and should be restricted to the bare minimum needed to respond to the threat in question. Reintroducing border control at the internal border should only ever be used as a measure of last resort. The reintroduction of border control is a prerogative of the Member States. The Commission may issue an opinion with regard to the necessity of the measure and its proportionality but cannot veto such a decision if it is taken by a Member State." | |||
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