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By *heBirminghamWeekend OP   Man
over a year ago

here

A new £52m line has been unveiled at the Nissan plant in Sunderland as the firm gears up to build the new Qashqai.

The £52m XL press line is part of a £400m investment in the Sunderland plant. The £400m invested for Qashqai comes on top of the £100m invested for the launch of new Juke, and is part of an overall £1bn planned investment into the plant by Nissan over five years.

The new machinery was unveiled in an official ceremony, led by Nissan Chief Operating Officer Ashwani Gupta, who said the company's UK staff "continues to set the standard for productivity and quality."

Good news for Sunderland and the North East

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By *ammskiMan
over a year ago

lytham st.annes


"A new £52m line has been unveiled at the Nissan plant in Sunderland as the firm gears up to build the new Qashqai.

The £52m XL press line is part of a £400m investment in the Sunderland plant. The £400m invested for Qashqai comes on top of the £100m invested for the launch of new Juke, and is part of an overall £1bn planned investment into the plant by Nissan over five years.

The new machinery was unveiled in an official ceremony, led by Nissan Chief Operating Officer Ashwani Gupta, who said the company's UK staff "continues to set the standard for productivity and quality."

Good news for Sunderland and the North East

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Thats very good news - about time we had some

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By *mmabluTV/TS
over a year ago

upton wirral


"Thats very good news - about time we had some"
That's why the voted Tory to get things done

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By *c223Man
over a year ago

MANCHESTER

Some good news to offset the bad, here's hoping the actual workers see a benefit to this.

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By *andS66Couple
over a year ago

Derby

Where's Shag and Easy when you need them to put everyone right on what Nissan's real plans are?

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By *an For YouMan
over a year ago

belfast/holywood

Great news for our car industry, the economy and the north east

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By *ercuryMan
over a year ago

Grantham

I've been involved in engineering projects for Nissan sub-contractors for years.

There is no slowdown in investment in capital projects at all.

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By *anejohnkent6263Couple
over a year ago

canterbury

Just goes to show what a great country we live in ...best of luck to the workers and families....Boris and the northern power house starting to move forward

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"A new £52m line has been unveiled at the Nissan plant in Sunderland as the firm gears up to build the new Qashqai.

The £52m XL press line is part of a £400m investment in the Sunderland plant. The £400m invested for Qashqai comes on top of the £100m invested for the launch of new Juke, and is part of an overall £1bn planned investment into the plant by Nissan over five years.

The new machinery was unveiled in an official ceremony, led by Nissan Chief Operating Officer Ashwani Gupta, who said the company's UK staff "continues to set the standard for productivity and quality."

Good news for Sunderland and the North East

"

Very good news, especially if you like driving a Nissan

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Good to see a thread everyone is in agreement with, really good news for all the workers and the area generally.

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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago

near ipswich


"Good to see a thread everyone is in agreement with, really good news for all the workers and the area generally."
Thats because the doom and gloom mungers cant find anything to moan about it which for once has surprised me.

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By *estivalMan
over a year ago

borehamwood


"Where's Shag and Easy when you need them to put everyone right on what Nissan's real plans are? "

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By *asyukMan
over a year ago

West London


"A new £52m line has been unveiled at the Nissan plant in Sunderland as the firm gears up to build the new Qashqai.

The £52m XL press line is part of a £400m investment in the Sunderland plant. The £400m invested for Qashqai comes on top of the £100m invested for the launch of new Juke, and is part of an overall £1bn planned investment into the plant by Nissan over five years.

The new machinery was unveiled in an official ceremony, led by Nissan Chief Operating Officer Ashwani Gupta, who said the company's UK staff "continues to set the standard for productivity and quality."

Good news for Sunderland and the North East

"

Nissan had already committed to the next Juke and Quashqai being produced in Sunderland. You do not change huge capital expenditure plans such as this. They were years in the making.

This is the money being spent. It's not new.

It's good, but it's not new.

They, like Peugeot/Vauxhall/Opel, are expecting the government to compensate them for any cost increases that they experience as a result of Brexit.

They did it before and denied it. Don't doubt that the UK taxpayer is doing the same again.

https://uk.mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUKKCN1PT0U3

https://uk.mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUKKBN20Q1UQ

They do not need to make this investment in the UK again. If the next Juke is not built here then the money will be spent in Japan or France or Germany.

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By *asyukMan
over a year ago

West London


"Where's Shag and Easy when you need them to put everyone right on what Nissan's real plans are? "

Understanding why something is happening is nothing to do with "doom and gloom".

It means that you understand what is needed to continue success.

If you think that any of this is to do with inherent British "greatness" then the outcome will be unfortunate.

Why do you think JLR built a new plant in Slovakia rather than here?

Ineos and Aston Martin built new UK factories as a consequence of massive government grants (putting another lie to the claims that the EU prevent us from doing such things).

There is, happily, a lot of research investment in the UK currently with government funding. This is great for top end jobs and highly skilled immigrants.

These do not provide large numbers of skilled manual jobs for which many people are suited.

You can pretend that this indicates that everything is perfect and nothing needs to be done or you can look at the reasons behind what's going on and modify strategy accordingly.

You do the former if you like. I choose the latter.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Where's Shag and Easy when you need them to put everyone right on what Nissan's real plans are?

"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Nissan had already committed to the next Juke and Quashqai being produced in Sunderland. You do not change huge capital expenditure plans such as this. They were years in the making.

This is the money being spent. It's not new.

It's good, but it's not new.

They, like Peugeot/Vauxhall/Opel, are expecting the government to compensate them for any cost increases that they experience as a result of Brexit.

They did it before and denied it. Don't doubt that the UK taxpayer is doing the same again.

https://uk.mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUKKCN1PT0U3

https://uk.mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUKKBN20Q1UQ

They do not need to make this investment in the UK again. If the next Juke is not built here then the money will be spent in Japan or France or Germany."

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Talk about 'glass half empty'

Some folk haven't even got a glass.

My opinion.

More is the pity I see fit to voice it.

Eva.

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By *asyukMan
over a year ago

West London


"Nissan had already committed to the next Juke and Quashqai being produced in Sunderland. You do not change huge capital expenditure plans such as this. They were years in the making.

This is the money being spent. It's not new.

It's good, but it's not new.

They, like Peugeot/Vauxhall/Opel, are expecting the government to compensate them for any cost increases that they experience as a result of Brexit.

They did it before and denied it. Don't doubt that the UK taxpayer is doing the same again.

https://uk.mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUKKCN1PT0U3

https://uk.mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUKKBN20Q1UQ

They do not need to make this investment in the UK again. If the next Juke is not built here then the money will be spent in Japan or France or Germany.

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Talk about 'glass half empty'

Some folk haven't even got a glass.

My opinion.

More is the pity I see fit to voice it.

Eva."

Unsurprising response.

Not actually responding to any of the points made. Just trying to dismiss it with a catchphrase.

You a free with your opinions but extremely light on data to back them.

More is the pity I see fit to voice it.

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By *abioMan
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

actually from someone who lives up here and lives a few miles away.... it always made sense to build the jukes and qashqai's here because the UK is the biggest selling markets for them....

the issue is going to be if other none uk majority selling cars will still end up being made here... and thats what you will likely find out nearer the end of the year if the UK govt press on with basically the "no deal" narrative!

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By *oi_LucyCouple
over a year ago

Barbados


"Good to see a thread everyone is in agreement with, really good news for all the workers and the area generally.Thats because the doom and gloom mungers cant find anything to moan about it which for once has surprised me. "

It is very strange that you seem to want people to find bad news. Very odd.

This is great news for Sunderland.

-Matt

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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago

near ipswich


"Good to see a thread everyone is in agreement with, really good news for all the workers and the area generally.Thats because the doom and gloom mungers cant find anything to moan about it which for once has surprised me.

It is very strange that you seem to want people to find bad news. Very odd.

This is great news for Sunderland.

-Matt"
I never said i want people to find bad news i said im surprised the doom and gloom remainers havnt found anything to moan about.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Nissan had already committed to the next Juke and Quashqai being produced in Sunderland. You do not change huge capital expenditure plans such as this. They were years in the making.

This is the money being spent. It's not new.

It's good, but it's not new.

They, like Peugeot/Vauxhall/Opel, are expecting the government to compensate them for any cost increases that they experience as a result of Brexit.

They did it before and denied it. Don't doubt that the UK taxpayer is doing the same again.

https://uk.mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUKKCN1PT0U3

https://uk.mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUKKBN20Q1UQ

They do not need to make this investment in the UK again. If the next Juke is not built here then the money will be spent in Japan or France or Germany.

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Talk about 'glass half empty'

Some folk haven't even got a glass.

My opinion.

More is the pity I see fit to voice it.

Eva.

Unsurprising response.

Not actually responding to any of the points made. Just trying to dismiss it with a catchphrase.

You a free with your opinions but extremely light on data to back them.

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Maybe I've far better things to do than post cut & copy on here, unlike some who seem to know everything.

You have no idea, have you....??!

Poor are the unenlightened.

End of.

Goodbye.

Eva

More is the pity I see fit to voice it."

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Good to see a thread everyone is in agreement with, really good news for all the workers and the area generally.Thats because the doom and gloom mungers cant find anything to moan about it which for once has surprised me.

It is very strange that you seem to want people to find bad news. Very odd.

This is great news for Sunderland.

-MattI never said i want people to find bad news i said im surprised the doom and gloom remainers havnt found anything to moan about. "

What has the Nissan investment got to do with Brexit? Have they indicated that they decided to make this decision based on the UK leaving the EU?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Errm... Yes Nissan may be popular in Britain. But worldwide profits have dropped by something like 58%. Production is having to be halved due to lack of sales.

The company is officially in danger of folding within the next 5 years if things don't improve.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

This post is a waste of time.

Brexit is going to put everyone on the dole, how dare you give out good news and upset all the remainers. Everyone knows the remainers was god like and never wrong so stop killing their dream.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"This post is a waste of time.

Brexit is going to put everyone on the dole, how dare you give out good news and upset all the remainers. Everyone knows the remainers was god like and never wrong so stop killing their dream. "

What has the Nissan deal got to do with Brexit??

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By *an For YouMan
over a year ago

belfast/holywood

The same negative doom and gloom merchant appears on every thread- even the good news ones. What a bloke

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The same negative doom and gloom merchant appears on every thread- even the good news ones. What a bloke"

Try reading. I have already said this is great news for Sunderland and people who like to drive nissans.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Errm... Yes Nissan may be popular in Britain. But worldwide profits have dropped by something like 58%. Production is having to be halved due to lack of sales.

The company is officially in danger of folding within the next 5 years if things don't improve. "

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By *an For YouMan
over a year ago

belfast/holywood

Try reading . So you aren’t the doom and gloom Merchant. Well done. So that leaves......

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Try reading . So you aren’t the doom and gloom Merchant. Well done. So that leaves......"

Me. The facts re: Nissan are out there. The company is in trouble.

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By *an For YouMan
over a year ago

belfast/holywood

( makes that noise in a panel show when someone gives the wrong answer ; ighhh errrrrr)

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"( makes that noise in a panel show when someone gives the wrong answer ; ighhh errrrrr)"

Enlighten me.

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By *an For YouMan
over a year ago

belfast/holywood

Read up

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Try reading . So you aren’t the doom and gloom Merchant. Well done. So that leaves......"

Try learning how to use the quote option

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Read up"

I've literally no idea what you're talking about.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Try reading . So you aren’t the doom and gloom Merchant. Well done. So that leaves......

Try learning how to use the quote option "

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By *an For YouMan
over a year ago

belfast/holywood

And go on a 48 hour holiday ?. No thanks . Been there done that

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Pardon

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"And go on a 48 hour holiday ?. No thanks . Been there done that "

What could you possibly say to get a forum ban?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The same negative doom and gloom merchant appears on every thread- even the good news ones. What a bloke

Try reading. I have already said this is great news for Sunderland and people who like to drive nissans."

He wasn't talking about you. He was refering to the only person who thinks it is negative. Some bollocks about data

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"And go on a 48 hour holiday ?. No thanks . Been there done that

What could you possibly say to get a forum ban? "

Some on here will report you for getting the weather wrong. Probably some bollocks to do with data

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Who is talking to who about what? The lack of quotes is confusing

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"And go on a 48 hour holiday ?. No thanks . Been there done that

What could you possibly say to get a forum ban?

Some on here will report you for getting the weather wrong. Probably some bollocks to do with data "

You're right on that. I got a forum ban a month ago. No idea why.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Who is talking to who about what? The lack of quotes is confusing "

I dunno.. I given up. Lol

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By *an For YouMan
over a year ago

belfast/holywood


"And go on a 48 hour holiday ?. No thanks . Been there done that

What could you possibly say to get a forum ban?

Some on here will report you for getting the weather wrong. Probably some bollocks to do with data "

Something to do with allegedly trying to contact a member on your block list by allegedly using the forum. By allegedly using the reply/quote button. 8 times bitten, 9 times shy

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

That makes no sense

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By *an For YouMan
over a year ago

belfast/holywood

That’s what my message said at the beginning of my weekend break. If you don’t know what I’m talking about.... well..... jeez. It’s pretty simple

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Are we talking about Nissan

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Are we talking about Nissan "

We seem to have moved off that subject.

Im outa here.

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By *asyukMan
over a year ago

West London


"A new £52m line has been unveiled at the Nissan plant in Sunderland as the firm gears up to build the new Qashqai.

The £52m XL press line is part of a £400m investment in the Sunderland plant. The £400m invested for Qashqai comes on top of the £100m invested for the launch of new Juke, and is part of an overall £1bn planned investment into the plant by Nissan over five years.

The new machinery was unveiled in an official ceremony, led by Nissan Chief Operating Officer Ashwani Gupta, who said the company's UK staff "continues to set the standard for productivity and quality."

Good news for Sunderland and the North East

Nissan had already committed to the next Juke and Quashqai being produced in Sunderland. You do not change huge capital expenditure plans such as this. They were years in the making.

This is the money being spent. It's not new.

It's good, but it's not new.

They, like Peugeot/Vauxhall/Opel, are expecting the government to compensate them for any cost increases that they experience as a result of Brexit.

They did it before and denied it. Don't doubt that the UK taxpayer is doing the same again.

https://uk.mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUKKCN1PT0U3

https://uk.mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUKKBN20Q1UQ

They do not need to make this investment in the UK again. If the next Juke is not built here then the money will be spent in Japan or France or Germany."

As you can't bulky me, how about some of you point out what part of what I wrote you disagree with?

If you cannot then stop bitching and whining

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

suffer from Insomnia

read this thread, you will be fixed

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By *andS66Couple
over a year ago

Derby


"A new £52m line has been unveiled at the Nissan plant in Sunderland as the firm gears up to build the new Qashqai.

The £52m XL press line is part of a £400m investment in the Sunderland plant. The £400m invested for Qashqai comes on top of the £100m invested for the launch of new Juke, and is part of an overall £1bn planned investment into the plant by Nissan over five years.

The new machinery was unveiled in an official ceremony, led by Nissan Chief Operating Officer Ashwani Gupta, who said the company's UK staff "continues to set the standard for productivity and quality."

Good news for Sunderland and the North East

Nissan had already committed to the next Juke and Quashqai being produced in Sunderland. You do not change huge capital expenditure plans such as this. They were years in the making.

This is the money being spent. It's not new.

It's good, but it's not new.

They, like Peugeot/Vauxhall/Opel, are expecting the government to compensate them for any cost increases that they experience as a result of Brexit.

They did it before and denied it. Don't doubt that the UK taxpayer is doing the same again.

https://uk.mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUKKCN1PT0U3

https://uk.mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUKKBN20Q1UQ

They do not need to make this investment in the UK again. If the next Juke is not built here then the money will be spent in Japan or France or Germany.

As you can't bulky me, how about some of you point out what part of what I wrote you disagree with?

If you cannot then stop bitching and whining "

The bit about companies not changing investment plans.... Companies do it all the time. If a capital investment no longer made good business sense at any of the capital investment stage-gates the investment would be shelved.

For example, in 2016 Nissan announced that they would be making the X-Trail in Sunderland.

3 years later Nissan said they had a change of plan and would be making it in Japan.

Same company, same initial decision, similar timescale, different investment outcome.

It's naive to think that companies don't constantly review or would not change their investment plans.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If we end up with basically no deal and tarrifs apply the UK will most probably only end up having car plants here to supply UK demand.

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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago

near ipswich


"If we end up with basically no deal and tarrifs apply the UK will most probably only end up having car plants here to supply UK demand. "
That depends on what deal we get with the usa i could see a few german companies coming to the uk if we dont have tariffs with the usa and the eu does.

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By *ercuryMan
over a year ago

Grantham


"If we end up with basically no deal and tarrifs apply the UK will most probably only end up having car plants here to supply UK demand. That depends on what deal we get with the usa i could see a few german companies coming to the uk if we dont have tariffs with the usa and the eu does. "

The Germans have their own plants in North America and Mexico.

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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago

near ipswich


"If we end up with basically no deal and tarrifs apply the UK will most probably only end up having car plants here to supply UK demand. That depends on what deal we get with the usa i could see a few german companies coming to the uk if we dont have tariffs with the usa and the eu does.

The Germans have their own plants in North America and Mexico. "
I know they do look at last years figures,trump is threatening a 25% import tax on the eu.

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By *c223Man
over a year ago

MANCHESTER

A little sad to see this thread of good news become a shit flinging match and the usuals complaining about "remainers" ruining things.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"If we end up with basically no deal and tarrifs apply the UK will most probably only end up having car plants here to supply UK demand.

That depends on what deal we get with the usa i could see a few german companies coming to the uk if we dont have tariffs with the usa and the eu does. "

Yes, that may have an impact too.

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By *asyukMan
over a year ago

West London


"A new £52m line has been unveiled at the Nissan plant in Sunderland as the firm gears up to build the new Qashqai.

The £52m XL press line is part of a £400m investment in the Sunderland plant. The £400m invested for Qashqai comes on top of the £100m invested for the launch of new Juke, and is part of an overall £1bn planned investment into the plant by Nissan over five years.

The new machinery was unveiled in an official ceremony, led by Nissan Chief Operating Officer Ashwani Gupta, who said the company's UK staff "continues to set the standard for productivity and quality."

Good news for Sunderland and the North East

Nissan had already committed to the next Juke and Quashqai being produced in Sunderland. You do not change huge capital expenditure plans such as this. They were years in the making.

This is the money being spent. It's not new.

It's good, but it's not new.

They, like Peugeot/Vauxhall/Opel, are expecting the government to compensate them for any cost increases that they experience as a result of Brexit.

They did it before and denied it. Don't doubt that the UK taxpayer is doing the same again.

https://uk.mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUKKCN1PT0U3

https://uk.mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUKKBN20Q1UQ

They do not need to make this investment in the UK again. If the next Juke is not built here then the money will be spent in Japan or France or Germany.

As you can't bulky me, how about some of you point out what part of what I wrote you disagree with?

If you cannot then stop bitching and whining

The bit about companies not changing investment plans.... Companies do it all the time. If a capital investment no longer made good business sense at any of the capital investment stage-gates the investment would be shelved.

For example, in 2016 Nissan announced that they would be making the X-Trail in Sunderland.

3 years later Nissan said they had a change of plan and would be making it in Japan.

Same company, same initial decision, similar timescale, different investment outcome.

It's naive to think that companies don't constantly review or would not change their investment plans.

"

This isn't renting an office and getting some temp staff in.

As I explained. There is a certain existing capacity. Factory, trained staff, logistics network.

Nissan was going to increase capacity in the UK with the X-trail, adding jobs and expanding the factory.

Three years later with a Japanese trade deal with the EU and excess capacity in Japan they expansion in the UK was binned despite massive UK government subsidy. Much cheaper and easier to transfer production due to a particular set of circumstances.

There is no excess capacity now. As I said, short to medium term there is no choice as the carline will be built.

Long-term it will depend on government subsidy, a sensible trade deal or a gamble on getting a big chunk of the UK market in its isolation.

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over a year ago

Someone has the direct number for the CEO at Nissan, bloody useful eh

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By *obka3Couple
over a year ago

bournemouth


"A new £52m line has been unveiled at the Nissan plant in Sunderland as the firm gears up to build the new Qashqai.

The £52m XL press line is part of a £400m investment in the Sunderland plant. The £400m invested for Qashqai comes on top of the £100m invested for the launch of new Juke, and is part of an overall £1bn planned investment into the plant by Nissan over five years.

The new machinery was unveiled in an official ceremony, led by Nissan Chief Operating Officer Ashwani Gupta, who said the company's UK staff "continues to set the standard for productivity and quality."

Good news for Sunderland and the North East

Nissan had already committed to the next Juke and Quashqai being produced in Sunderland. You do not change huge capital expenditure plans such as this. They were years in the making.

This is the money being spent. It's not new.

It's good, but it's not new.

They, like Peugeot/Vauxhall/Opel, are expecting the government to compensate them for any cost increases that they experience as a result of Brexit.

They did it before and denied it. Don't doubt that the UK taxpayer is doing the same again.

https://uk.mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUKKCN1PT0U3

https://uk.mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUKKBN20Q1UQ

They do not need to make this investment in the UK again. If the next Juke is not built here then the money will be spent in Japan or France or Germany.

As you can't bulky me, how about some of you point out what part of what I wrote you disagree with?

If you cannot then stop bitching and whining

The bit about companies not changing investment plans.... Companies do it all the time. If a capital investment no longer made good business sense at any of the capital investment stage-gates the investment would be shelved.

For example, in 2016 Nissan announced that they would be making the X-Trail in Sunderland.

3 years later Nissan said they had a change of plan and would be making it in Japan.

Same company, same initial decision, similar timescale, different investment outcome.

It's naive to think that companies don't constantly review or would not change their investment plans.

This isn't renting an office and getting some temp staff in.

As I explained. There is a certain existing capacity. Factory, trained staff, logistics network.

Nissan was going to increase capacity in the UK with the X-trail, adding jobs and expanding the factory.

Three years later with a Japanese trade deal with the EU and excess capacity in Japan they expansion in the UK was binned despite massive UK government subsidy. Much cheaper and easier to transfer production due to a particular set of circumstances.

There is no excess capacity now. As I said, short to medium term there is no choice as the carline will be built.

Long-term it will depend on government subsidy, a sensible trade deal or a gamble on getting a big chunk of the UK market in its isolation."

Nissan like all automotive companies are restructuring due to a huge drop in sales, rumours in industry papers say they are more likely to shut EU factories than the Sunderland one. GM pulled out of europe and ford may do the same if they cant see profits coming,ALL of europe is high cost compared to other parts of the world.

Very little of this has anything to do with brexit

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"A new £52m line has been unveiled at the Nissan plant in Sunderland as the firm gears up to build the new Qashqai.

The £52m XL press line is part of a £400m investment in the Sunderland plant. The £400m invested for Qashqai comes on top of the £100m invested for the launch of new Juke, and is part of an overall £1bn planned investment into the plant by Nissan over five years.

The new machinery was unveiled in an official ceremony, led by Nissan Chief Operating Officer Ashwani Gupta, who said the company's UK staff "continues to set the standard for productivity and quality."

Good news for Sunderland and the North East

Nissan had already committed to the next Juke and Quashqai being produced in Sunderland. You do not change huge capital expenditure plans such as this. They were years in the making.

This is the money being spent. It's not new.

It's good, but it's not new.

They, like Peugeot/Vauxhall/Opel, are expecting the government to compensate them for any cost increases that they experience as a result of Brexit.

They did it before and denied it. Don't doubt that the UK taxpayer is doing the same again.

https://uk.mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUKKCN1PT0U3

https://uk.mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUKKBN20Q1UQ

They do not need to make this investment in the UK again. If the next Juke is not built here then the money will be spent in Japan or France or Germany.

As you can't bulky me, how about some of you point out what part of what I wrote you disagree with?

If you cannot then stop bitching and whining

The bit about companies not changing investment plans.... Companies do it all the time. If a capital investment no longer made good business sense at any of the capital investment stage-gates the investment would be shelved.

For example, in 2016 Nissan announced that they would be making the X-Trail in Sunderland.

3 years later Nissan said they had a change of plan and would be making it in Japan.

Same company, same initial decision, similar timescale, different investment outcome.

It's naive to think that companies don't constantly review or would not change their investment plans.

This isn't renting an office and getting some temp staff in.

As I explained. There is a certain existing capacity. Factory, trained staff, logistics network.

Nissan was going to increase capacity in the UK with the X-trail, adding jobs and expanding the factory.

Three years later with a Japanese trade deal with the EU and excess capacity in Japan they expansion in the UK was binned despite massive UK government subsidy. Much cheaper and easier to transfer production due to a particular set of circumstances.

There is no excess capacity now. As I said, short to medium term there is no choice as the carline will be built.

Long-term it will depend on government subsidy, a sensible trade deal or a gamble on getting a big chunk of the UK market in its isolation.

Nissan like all automotive companies are restructuring due to a huge drop in sales, rumours in industry papers say they are more likely to shut EU factories than the Sunderland one. GM pulled out of europe and ford may do the same if they cant see profits coming,ALL of europe is high cost compared to other parts of the world.

Very little of this has anything to do with brexit"

Hard to say where Nissan is heading or where Carlos Ghosn is, but maybe the fall in the value of the pound along with the perception that our government might be more open to underwriting companies now that they are no longer part of the EU could be influencing them although the argument will be that the EU would place tariffs to counteract this support?

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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago

near ipswich


"A new £52m line has been unveiled at the Nissan plant in Sunderland as the firm gears up to build the new Qashqai.

The £52m XL press line is part of a £400m investment in the Sunderland plant. The £400m invested for Qashqai comes on top of the £100m invested for the launch of new Juke, and is part of an overall £1bn planned investment into the plant by Nissan over five years.

The new machinery was unveiled in an official ceremony, led by Nissan Chief Operating Officer Ashwani Gupta, who said the company's UK staff "continues to set the standard for productivity and quality."

Good news for Sunderland and the North East

Nissan had already committed to the next Juke and Quashqai being produced in Sunderland. You do not change huge capital expenditure plans such as this. They were years in the making.

This is the money being spent. It's not new.

It's good, but it's not new.

They, like Peugeot/Vauxhall/Opel, are expecting the government to compensate them for any cost increases that they experience as a result of Brexit.

They did it before and denied it. Don't doubt that the UK taxpayer is doing the same again.

https://uk.mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUKKCN1PT0U3

https://uk.mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUKKBN20Q1UQ

They do not need to make this investment in the UK again. If the next Juke is not built here then the money will be spent in Japan or France or Germany.

As you can't bulky me, how about some of you point out what part of what I wrote you disagree with?

If you cannot then stop bitching and whining

The bit about companies not changing investment plans.... Companies do it all the time. If a capital investment no longer made good business sense at any of the capital investment stage-gates the investment would be shelved.

For example, in 2016 Nissan announced that they would be making the X-Trail in Sunderland.

3 years later Nissan said they had a change of plan and would be making it in Japan.

Same company, same initial decision, similar timescale, different investment outcome.

It's naive to think that companies don't constantly review or would not change their investment plans.

This isn't renting an office and getting some temp staff in.

As I explained. There is a certain existing capacity. Factory, trained staff, logistics network.

Nissan was going to increase capacity in the UK with the X-trail, adding jobs and expanding the factory.

Three years later with a Japanese trade deal with the EU and excess capacity in Japan they expansion in the UK was binned despite massive UK government subsidy. Much cheaper and easier to transfer production due to a particular set of circumstances.

There is no excess capacity now. As I said, short to medium term there is no choice as the carline will be built.

Long-term it will depend on government subsidy, a sensible trade deal or a gamble on getting a big chunk of the UK market in its isolation.

Nissan like all automotive companies are restructuring due to a huge drop in sales, rumours in industry papers say they are more likely to shut EU factories than the Sunderland one. GM pulled out of europe and ford may do the same if they cant see profits coming,ALL of europe is high cost compared to other parts of the world.

Very little of this has anything to do with brexit

Hard to say where Nissan is heading or where Carlos Ghosn is, but maybe the fall in the value of the pound along with the perception that our government might be more open to underwriting companies now that they are no longer part of the EU could be influencing them although the argument will be that the EU would place tariffs to counteract this support? "
Yeah that would work well for the eu considering how many more cars they sell to us.

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By *asyukMan
over a year ago

West London


"A new £52m line has been unveiled at the Nissan plant in Sunderland as the firm gears up to build the new Qashqai.

The £52m XL press line is part of a £400m investment in the Sunderland plant. The £400m invested for Qashqai comes on top of the £100m invested for the launch of new Juke, and is part of an overall £1bn planned investment into the plant by Nissan over five years.

The new machinery was unveiled in an official ceremony, led by Nissan Chief Operating Officer Ashwani Gupta, who said the company's UK staff "continues to set the standard for productivity and quality."

Good news for Sunderland and the North East

Nissan had already committed to the next Juke and Quashqai being produced in Sunderland. You do not change huge capital expenditure plans such as this. They were years in the making.

This is the money being spent. It's not new.

It's good, but it's not new.

They, like Peugeot/Vauxhall/Opel, are expecting the government to compensate them for any cost increases that they experience as a result of Brexit.

They did it before and denied it. Don't doubt that the UK taxpayer is doing the same again.

https://uk.mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUKKCN1PT0U3

https://uk.mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUKKBN20Q1UQ

They do not need to make this investment in the UK again. If the next Juke is not built here then the money will be spent in Japan or France or Germany.

As you can't bulky me, how about some of you point out what part of what I wrote you disagree with?

If you cannot then stop bitching and whining

The bit about companies not changing investment plans.... Companies do it all the time. If a capital investment no longer made good business sense at any of the capital investment stage-gates the investment would be shelved.

For example, in 2016 Nissan announced that they would be making the X-Trail in Sunderland.

3 years later Nissan said they had a change of plan and would be making it in Japan.

Same company, same initial decision, similar timescale, different investment outcome.

It's naive to think that companies don't constantly review or would not change their investment plans.

This isn't renting an office and getting some temp staff in.

As I explained. There is a certain existing capacity. Factory, trained staff, logistics network.

Nissan was going to increase capacity in the UK with the X-trail, adding jobs and expanding the factory.

Three years later with a Japanese trade deal with the EU and excess capacity in Japan they expansion in the UK was binned despite massive UK government subsidy. Much cheaper and easier to transfer production due to a particular set of circumstances.

There is no excess capacity now. As I said, short to medium term there is no choice as the carline will be built.

Long-term it will depend on government subsidy, a sensible trade deal or a gamble on getting a big chunk of the UK market in its isolation.

Nissan like all automotive companies are restructuring due to a huge drop in sales, rumours in industry papers say they are more likely to shut EU factories than the Sunderland one. GM pulled out of europe and ford may do the same if they cant see profits coming,ALL of europe is high cost compared to other parts of the world.

Very little of this has anything to do with brexit

Hard to say where Nissan is heading or where Carlos Ghosn is, but maybe the fall in the value of the pound along with the perception that our government might be more open to underwriting companies now that they are no longer part of the EU could be influencing them although the argument will be that the EU would place tariffs to counteract this support? Yeah that would work well for the eu considering how many more cars they sell to us. "

So we can screw China in any trade deal considering how much they sell to us?

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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago

near ipswich


"A new £52m line has been unveiled at the Nissan plant in Sunderland as the firm gears up to build the new Qashqai.

The £52m XL press line is part of a £400m investment in the Sunderland plant. The £400m invested for Qashqai comes on top of the £100m invested for the launch of new Juke, and is part of an overall £1bn planned investment into the plant by Nissan over five years.

The new machinery was unveiled in an official ceremony, led by Nissan Chief Operating Officer Ashwani Gupta, who said the company's UK staff "continues to set the standard for productivity and quality."

Good news for Sunderland and the North East

Nissan had already committed to the next Juke and Quashqai being produced in Sunderland. You do not change huge capital expenditure plans such as this. They were years in the making.

This is the money being spent. It's not new.

It's good, but it's not new.

They, like Peugeot/Vauxhall/Opel, are expecting the government to compensate them for any cost increases that they experience as a result of Brexit.

They did it before and denied it. Don't doubt that the UK taxpayer is doing the same again.

https://uk.mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUKKCN1PT0U3

https://uk.mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUKKBN20Q1UQ

They do not need to make this investment in the UK again. If the next Juke is not built here then the money will be spent in Japan or France or Germany.

As you can't bulky me, how about some of you point out what part of what I wrote you disagree with?

If you cannot then stop bitching and whining

The bit about companies not changing investment plans.... Companies do it all the time. If a capital investment no longer made good business sense at any of the capital investment stage-gates the investment would be shelved.

For example, in 2016 Nissan announced that they would be making the X-Trail in Sunderland.

3 years later Nissan said they had a change of plan and would be making it in Japan.

Same company, same initial decision, similar timescale, different investment outcome.

It's naive to think that companies don't constantly review or would not change their investment plans.

This isn't renting an office and getting some temp staff in.

As I explained. There is a certain existing capacity. Factory, trained staff, logistics network.

Nissan was going to increase capacity in the UK with the X-trail, adding jobs and expanding the factory.

Three years later with a Japanese trade deal with the EU and excess capacity in Japan they expansion in the UK was binned despite massive UK government subsidy. Much cheaper and easier to transfer production due to a particular set of circumstances.

There is no excess capacity now. As I said, short to medium term there is no choice as the carline will be built.

Long-term it will depend on government subsidy, a sensible trade deal or a gamble on getting a big chunk of the UK market in its isolation.

Nissan like all automotive companies are restructuring due to a huge drop in sales, rumours in industry papers say they are more likely to shut EU factories than the Sunderland one. GM pulled out of europe and ford may do the same if they cant see profits coming,ALL of europe is high cost compared to other parts of the world.

Very little of this has anything to do with brexit

Hard to say where Nissan is heading or where Carlos Ghosn is, but maybe the fall in the value of the pound along with the perception that our government might be more open to underwriting companies now that they are no longer part of the EU could be influencing them although the argument will be that the EU would place tariffs to counteract this support? Yeah that would work well for the eu considering how many more cars they sell to us.

So we can screw China in any trade deal considering how much they sell to us?"
What part of if they put tariffs on cars and we apply the same tariffs they sell us a lot more dont you understand ?

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By *asyukMan
over a year ago

West London


"A new £52m line has been unveiled at the Nissan plant in Sunderland as the firm gears up to build the new Qashqai.

The £52m XL press line is part of a £400m investment in the Sunderland plant. The £400m invested for Qashqai comes on top of the £100m invested for the launch of new Juke, and is part of an overall £1bn planned investment into the plant by Nissan over five years.

The new machinery was unveiled in an official ceremony, led by Nissan Chief Operating Officer Ashwani Gupta, who said the company's UK staff "continues to set the standard for productivity and quality."

Good news for Sunderland and the North East

Nissan had already committed to the next Juke and Quashqai being produced in Sunderland. You do not change huge capital expenditure plans such as this. They were years in the making.

This is the money being spent. It's not new.

It's good, but it's not new.

They, like Peugeot/Vauxhall/Opel, are expecting the government to compensate them for any cost increases that they experience as a result of Brexit.

They did it before and denied it. Don't doubt that the UK taxpayer is doing the same again.

https://uk.mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUKKCN1PT0U3

https://uk.mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUKKBN20Q1UQ

They do not need to make this investment in the UK again. If the next Juke is not built here then the money will be spent in Japan or France or Germany.

As you can't bulky me, how about some of you point out what part of what I wrote you disagree with?

If you cannot then stop bitching and whining

The bit about companies not changing investment plans.... Companies do it all the time. If a capital investment no longer made good business sense at any of the capital investment stage-gates the investment would be shelved.

For example, in 2016 Nissan announced that they would be making the X-Trail in Sunderland.

3 years later Nissan said they had a change of plan and would be making it in Japan.

Same company, same initial decision, similar timescale, different investment outcome.

It's naive to think that companies don't constantly review or would not change their investment plans.

This isn't renting an office and getting some temp staff in.

As I explained. There is a certain existing capacity. Factory, trained staff, logistics network.

Nissan was going to increase capacity in the UK with the X-trail, adding jobs and expanding the factory.

Three years later with a Japanese trade deal with the EU and excess capacity in Japan they expansion in the UK was binned despite massive UK government subsidy. Much cheaper and easier to transfer production due to a particular set of circumstances.

There is no excess capacity now. As I said, short to medium term there is no choice as the carline will be built.

Long-term it will depend on government subsidy, a sensible trade deal or a gamble on getting a big chunk of the UK market in its isolation.

Nissan like all automotive companies are restructuring due to a huge drop in sales, rumours in industry papers say they are more likely to shut EU factories than the Sunderland one. GM pulled out of europe and ford may do the same if they cant see profits coming,ALL of europe is high cost compared to other parts of the world.

Very little of this has anything to do with brexit

Hard to say where Nissan is heading or where Carlos Ghosn is, but maybe the fall in the value of the pound along with the perception that our government might be more open to underwriting companies now that they are no longer part of the EU could be influencing them although the argument will be that the EU would place tariffs to counteract this support? Yeah that would work well for the eu considering how many more cars they sell to us.

So we can screw China in any trade deal considering how much they sell to us?What part of if they put tariffs on cars and we apply the same tariffs they sell us a lot more dont you understand ?"

I understand. We pay more for cars

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By *asyukMan
over a year ago

West London


"Someone has the direct number for the CEO at Nissan, bloody useful eh "

Nobody needs a direct number to work through the logic.

You haven't argued with the logic though have you

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Someone has the direct number for the CEO at Nissan, bloody useful eh

Nobody needs a direct number to work through the logic.

You haven't argued with the logic though have you "

I understand you haven't a clue what Nissan's long term business strategies are. So all you are doing is making assumptions to try and piss on what is good news for the North East. Fortunately most people see it for what it is.

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By *andS66Couple
over a year ago

Derby


"A new £52m line has been unveiled at the Nissan plant in Sunderland as the firm gears up to build the new Qashqai.

The £52m XL press line is part of a £400m investment in the Sunderland plant. The £400m invested for Qashqai comes on top of the £100m invested for the launch of new Juke, and is part of an overall £1bn planned investment into the plant by Nissan over five years.

The new machinery was unveiled in an official ceremony, led by Nissan Chief Operating Officer Ashwani Gupta, who said the company's UK staff "continues to set the standard for productivity and quality."

Good news for Sunderland and the North East

Nissan had already committed to the next Juke and Quashqai being produced in Sunderland. You do not change huge capital expenditure plans such as this. They were years in the making.

This is the money being spent. It's not new.

It's good, but it's not new.

They, like Peugeot/Vauxhall/Opel, are expecting the government to compensate them for any cost increases that they experience as a result of Brexit.

They did it before and denied it. Don't doubt that the UK taxpayer is doing the same again.

https://uk.mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUKKCN1PT0U3

https://uk.mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUKKBN20Q1UQ

They do not need to make this investment in the UK again. If the next Juke is not built here then the money will be spent in Japan or France or Germany.

As you can't bulky me, how about some of you point out what part of what I wrote you disagree with?

If you cannot then stop bitching and whining

The bit about companies not changing investment plans.... Companies do it all the time. If a capital investment no longer made good business sense at any of the capital investment stage-gates the investment would be shelved.

For example, in 2016 Nissan announced that they would be making the X-Trail in Sunderland.

3 years later Nissan said they had a change of plan and would be making it in Japan.

Same company, same initial decision, similar timescale, different investment outcome.

It's naive to think that companies don't constantly review or would not change their investment plans.

This isn't renting an office and getting some temp staff in.

As I explained. There is a certain existing capacity. Factory, trained staff, logistics network.

Nissan was going to increase capacity in the UK with the X-trail, adding jobs and expanding the factory.

Three years later with a Japanese trade deal with the EU and excess capacity in Japan they expansion in the UK was binned despite massive UK government subsidy. Much cheaper and easier to transfer production due to a particular set of circumstances.

There is no excess capacity now. As I said, short to medium term there is no choice as the carline will be built.

Long-term it will depend on government subsidy, a sensible trade deal or a gamble on getting a big chunk of the UK market in its isolation."

But, but, Nissan had already committed to it in the UK, and had been working on it for several years....and you said

"You do not change huge capital expenditure plans such as this. They were years in the making."

But now what you're saying is that companies do change their major spending decisions, even if they've spent millions in the planning over several years, if those plans no longer make business sense.

So I guess that making the Qashqai here still makes business sense, rather than your assertion that they're only doing it because they've already planned it.

Btw Nissan do have excess capacity.

If they didn't they wouldn't be considering closing plants in the EU.

But why aren't they making the XTrail in the EU, preffering Japan? Anything to do with the FTA between Japan and the EU by any chance?

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By *asyukMan
over a year ago

West London


"A new £52m line has been unveiled at the Nissan plant in Sunderland as the firm gears up to build the new Qashqai.

The £52m XL press line is part of a £400m investment in the Sunderland plant. The £400m invested for Qashqai comes on top of the £100m invested for the launch of new Juke, and is part of an overall £1bn planned investment into the plant by Nissan over five years.

The new machinery was unveiled in an official ceremony, led by Nissan Chief Operating Officer Ashwani Gupta, who said the company's UK staff "continues to set the standard for productivity and quality."

Good news for Sunderland and the North East

Nissan had already committed to the next Juke and Quashqai being produced in Sunderland. You do not change huge capital expenditure plans such as this. They were years in the making.

This is the money being spent. It's not new.

It's good, but it's not new.

They, like Peugeot/Vauxhall/Opel, are expecting the government to compensate them for any cost increases that they experience as a result of Brexit.

They did it before and denied it. Don't doubt that the UK taxpayer is doing the same again.

https://uk.mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUKKCN1PT0U3

https://uk.mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUKKBN20Q1UQ

They do not need to make this investment in the UK again. If the next Juke is not built here then the money will be spent in Japan or France or Germany.

As you can't bulky me, how about some of you point out what part of what I wrote you disagree with?

If you cannot then stop bitching and whining

The bit about companies not changing investment plans.... Companies do it all the time. If a capital investment no longer made good business sense at any of the capital investment stage-gates the investment would be shelved.

For example, in 2016 Nissan announced that they would be making the X-Trail in Sunderland.

3 years later Nissan said they had a change of plan and would be making it in Japan.

Same company, same initial decision, similar timescale, different investment outcome.

It's naive to think that companies don't constantly review or would not change their investment plans.

This isn't renting an office and getting some temp staff in.

As I explained. There is a certain existing capacity. Factory, trained staff, logistics network.

Nissan was going to increase capacity in the UK with the X-trail, adding jobs and expanding the factory.

Three years later with a Japanese trade deal with the EU and excess capacity in Japan they expansion in the UK was binned despite massive UK government subsidy. Much cheaper and easier to transfer production due to a particular set of circumstances.

There is no excess capacity now. As I said, short to medium term there is no choice as the carline will be built.

Long-term it will depend on government subsidy, a sensible trade deal or a gamble on getting a big chunk of the UK market in its isolation.

But, but, Nissan had already committed to it in the UK, and had been working on it for several years....and you said

"You do not change huge capital expenditure plans such as this. They were years in the making."

But now what you're saying is that companies do change their major spending decisions, even if they've spent millions in the planning over several years, if those plans no longer make business sense.

So I guess that making the Qashqai here still makes business sense, rather than your assertion that they're only doing it because they've already planned it.

Btw Nissan do have excess capacity.

If they didn't they wouldn't be considering closing plants in the EU.

But why aren't they making the XTrail in the EU, preffering Japan? Anything to do with the FTA between Japan and the EU by any chance?

"

You know what, you're right.

Companies do make changes to capital expenditure and burn millions in exceptional circumstances.

Of all of the the major companies Nissan is seeing the biggest problems so they are having to make the hardest decisions.

The Quashqai and the Juke happen to be two of the products that are selling well and happen to have their biggest markets in the UK. The UK government also happen to be desperate to subsidise the automotive industry.

There is no logic to moving production of these vehicles somewhere else as they happen to be in the right place.

The FTA with the EU made Japan more attractive than the UK despite generous UK subsidies.

That should tell you all that you need to know. The UK is only attractive for domestic UK sales.

You can pretend that Honda's closure had nothing to do with it and you can pretend that the boss of Peugeot/Opel/Vauxhall hasn't demanded financial compensation to stay in the UK.

Alternatively you can pretend that everything's OK

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By *asyukMan
over a year ago

West London


"Someone has the direct number for the CEO at Nissan, bloody useful eh

Nobody needs a direct number to work through the logic.

You haven't argued with the logic though have you

I understand you haven't a clue what Nissan's long term business strategies are. So all you are doing is making assumptions to try and piss on what is good news for the North East. Fortunately most people see it for what it is."

You do not know CEOs of major companies, judges, government ministers yet you post on all manner of threads.

Do feel free to debate the points but if you are unable to try and control your urge to try and assert your sense of importance with such weak efforts to shut down a discussion due to your personal vendetta against me.

Have fun with your ego and now write your signature childish "come back"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Someone has the direct number for the CEO at Nissan, bloody useful eh

Nobody needs a direct number to work through the logic.

You haven't argued with the logic though have you

I understand you haven't a clue what Nissan's long term business strategies are. So all you are doing is making assumptions to try and piss on what is good news for the North East. Fortunately most people see it for what it is.

You do not know CEOs of major companies, judges, government ministers yet you post on all manner of threads.

Do feel free to debate the points but if you are unable to try and control your urge to try and assert your sense of importance with such weak efforts to shut down a discussion due to your personal vendetta against me.

Have fun with your ego and now write your signature childish "come back" "

I don't claim to know Nissan's strategic plan, you do. For the record I know one CEO of a FTSE 100 company and a few in the FTSE 250 so if I ever need to comment on them I can get the inside information.

I see you resort to your normal when you have been made to look an idiot, surprised you don't do it on every post. For the record, again, I don't want sex with you do please stop trying.

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By *asyukMan
over a year ago

West London


"Someone has the direct number for the CEO at Nissan, bloody useful eh

Nobody needs a direct number to work through the logic.

You haven't argued with the logic though have you

I understand you haven't a clue what Nissan's long term business strategies are. So all you are doing is making assumptions to try and piss on what is good news for the North East. Fortunately most people see it for what it is.

You do not know CEOs of major companies, judges, government ministers yet you post on all manner of threads.

Do feel free to debate the points but if you are unable to try and control your urge to try and assert your sense of importance with such weak efforts to shut down a discussion due to your personal vendetta against me.

Have fun with your ego and now write your signature childish "come back"

I don't claim to know Nissan's strategic plan, you do. For the record I know one CEO of a FTSE 100 company and a few in the FTSE 250 so if I ever need to comment on them I can get the inside information.

I see you resort to your normal when you have been made to look an idiot, surprised you don't do it on every post. For the record, again, I don't want sex with you do please stop trying."

I haven't actually mentioned how many CEOs, judges or government ministers that I may or may not know.

My ego doesn't require it.

You still made no reference to the actual logic of the position that I stated.

Why not try actually discussing the topic in the thread?

Well done on finally not acting like a child in reaction to an emoji though

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Someone has the direct number for the CEO at Nissan, bloody useful eh

Nobody needs a direct number to work through the logic.

You haven't argued with the logic though have you

I understand you haven't a clue what Nissan's long term business strategies are. So all you are doing is making assumptions to try and piss on what is good news for the North East. Fortunately most people see it for what it is.

You do not know CEOs of major companies, judges, government ministers yet you post on all manner of threads.

Do feel free to debate the points but if you are unable to try and control your urge to try and assert your sense of importance with such weak efforts to shut down a discussion due to your personal vendetta against me.

Have fun with your ego and now write your signature childish "come back"

I don't claim to know Nissan's strategic plan, you do. For the record I know one CEO of a FTSE 100 company and a few in the FTSE 250 so if I ever need to comment on them I can get the inside information.

I see you resort to your normal when you have been made to look an idiot, surprised you don't do it on every post. For the record, again, I don't want sex with you do please stop trying.

I haven't actually mentioned how many CEOs, judges or government ministers that I may or may not know.

My ego doesn't require it.

You still made no reference to the actual logic of the position that I stated.

Why not try actually discussing the topic in the thread?

Well done on finally not acting like a child in reaction to an emoji though "

My knowing a few CEOs was correcting a falsehood you made. Nothing to do with ego, they are just normal people.

I have made reference to you 'logic', there isn't any. Its your opinion.

Now back on topic. This is great news for the region, end of story

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By *asyukMan
over a year ago

West London


"Someone has the direct number for the CEO at Nissan, bloody useful eh

Nobody needs a direct number to work through the logic.

You haven't argued with the logic though have you

I understand you haven't a clue what Nissan's long term business strategies are. So all you are doing is making assumptions to try and piss on what is good news for the North East. Fortunately most people see it for what it is.

You do not know CEOs of major companies, judges, government ministers yet you post on all manner of threads.

Do feel free to debate the points but if you are unable to try and control your urge to try and assert your sense of importance with such weak efforts to shut down a discussion due to your personal vendetta against me.

Have fun with your ego and now write your signature childish "come back"

I don't claim to know Nissan's strategic plan, you do. For the record I know one CEO of a FTSE 100 company and a few in the FTSE 250 so if I ever need to comment on them I can get the inside information.

I see you resort to your normal when you have been made to look an idiot, surprised you don't do it on every post. For the record, again, I don't want sex with you do please stop trying.

I haven't actually mentioned how many CEOs, judges or government ministers that I may or may not know.

My ego doesn't require it.

You still made no reference to the actual logic of the position that I stated.

Why not try actually discussing the topic in the thread?

Well done on finally not acting like a child in reaction to an emoji though

My knowing a few CEOs was correcting a falsehood you made. Nothing to do with ego, they are just normal people.

I have made reference to you 'logic', there isn't any. Its your opinion.

Now back on topic. This is great news for the region, end of story "

Zero contribution again other than trying to look important.

Well done

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By *heBirminghamWeekend OP   Man
over a year ago

here

Now confirmed - Nissan will be building the new e-power Qashqui in the UK at the Sunderland plant.

No new jobs, however, the continued commitment to the British plant is good news for Wearside and the North East.

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By *oxychick35Couple
over a year ago

thornaby

Great news

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By *ouple in LancashireCouple
over a year ago

in Lancashire


"Now confirmed - Nissan will be building the new e-power Qashqui in the UK at the Sunderland plant.

No new jobs, however, the continued commitment to the British plant is good news for Wearside and the North East."

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Now confirmed - Nissan will be building the new e-power Qashqui in the UK at the Sunderland plant.

No new jobs, however, the continued commitment to the British plant is good news for Wearside and the North East."

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By *mmabluTV/TS
over a year ago

upton wirral


"A new £52m line has been unveiled at the Nissan plant in Sunderland as the firm gears up to build the new Qashqai.

The £52m XL press line is part of a £400m investment in the Sunderland plant. The £400m invested for Qashqai comes on top of the £100m invested for the launch of new Juke, and is part of an overall £1bn planned investment into the plant by Nissan over five years.

The new machinery was unveiled in an official ceremony, led by Nissan Chief Operating Officer Ashwani Gupta, who said the company's UK staff "continues to set the standard for productivity and quality."

Good news for Sunderland and the North East

"
Great leaving the EU,this is why tories won so many seats up there

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

How can this possibly be true?

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By *ionelhutzMan
over a year ago

liverpool


"A new £52m line has been unveiled at the Nissan plant in Sunderland as the firm gears up to build the new Qashqai.

The £52m XL press line is part of a £400m investment in the Sunderland plant. The £400m invested for Qashqai comes on top of the £100m invested for the launch of new Juke, and is part of an overall £1bn planned investment into the plant by Nissan over five years.

The new machinery was unveiled in an official ceremony, led by Nissan Chief Operating Officer Ashwani Gupta, who said the company's UK staff "continues to set the standard for productivity and quality."

Good news for Sunderland and the North East

Great leaving the EU,this is why tories won so many seats up there"

Yep the Tories have always had high esteem for the north east

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By *atEvolutionCouple
over a year ago

atlantisEVOLUTION Swingers Club. Stoke


"A new £52m line has been unveiled at the Nissan plant in Sunderland as the firm gears up to build the new Qashqai.

The £52m XL press line is part of a £400m investment in the Sunderland plant. The £400m invested for Qashqai comes on top of the £100m invested for the launch of new Juke, and is part of an overall £1bn planned investment into the plant by Nissan over five years.

The new machinery was unveiled in an official ceremony, led by Nissan Chief Operating Officer Ashwani Gupta, who said the company's UK staff "continues to set the standard for productivity and quality."

Good news for Sunderland and the North East

"

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By *oxychick35Couple
over a year ago

thornaby


"A new £52m line has been unveiled at the Nissan plant in Sunderland as the firm gears up to build the new Qashqai.

The £52m XL press line is part of a £400m investment in the Sunderland plant. The £400m invested for Qashqai comes on top of the £100m invested for the launch of new Juke, and is part of an overall £1bn planned investment into the plant by Nissan over five years.

The new machinery was unveiled in an official ceremony, led by Nissan Chief Operating Officer Ashwani Gupta, who said the company's UK staff "continues to set the standard for productivity and quality."

Good news for Sunderland and the North East

Great leaving the EU,this is why tories won so many seats up there

Yep the Tories have always had high esteem for the north east "
like labour when they let our steelworks close none of the party’s have done much for the north east mate

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By *ionelhutzMan
over a year ago

liverpool


"A new £52m line has been unveiled at the Nissan plant in Sunderland as the firm gears up to build the new Qashqai.

The £52m XL press line is part of a £400m investment in the Sunderland plant. The £400m invested for Qashqai comes on top of the £100m invested for the launch of new Juke, and is part of an overall £1bn planned investment into the plant by Nissan over five years.

The new machinery was unveiled in an official ceremony, led by Nissan Chief Operating Officer Ashwani Gupta, who said the company's UK staff "continues to set the standard for productivity and quality."

Good news for Sunderland and the North East

Great leaving the EU,this is why tories won so many seats up there

Yep the Tories have always had high esteem for the north east like labour when they let our steelworks close none of the party’s have done much for the north east mate "

What happened with the mining industry again?

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By *ebbie69Couple
over a year ago

milton keynes


"Now confirmed - Nissan will be building the new e-power Qashqui in the UK at the Sunderland plant.

No new jobs, however, the continued commitment to the British plant is good news for Wearside and the North East."

great news - thanks for sharing

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"A new £52m line has been unveiled at the Nissan plant in Sunderland as the firm gears up to build the new Qashqai.

The £52m XL press line is part of a £400m investment in the Sunderland plant. The £400m invested for Qashqai comes on top of the £100m invested for the launch of new Juke, and is part of an overall £1bn planned investment into the plant by Nissan over five years.

The new machinery was unveiled in an official ceremony, led by Nissan Chief Operating Officer Ashwani Gupta, who said the company's UK staff "continues to set the standard for productivity and quality."

Good news for Sunderland and the North East

Great leaving the EU,this is why tories won so many seats up there

Yep the Tories have always had high esteem for the north east like labour when they let our steelworks close none of the party’s have done much for the north east mate

What happened with the mining industry again?"

Do you think they should have kept that going?

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By *atEvolutionCouple
over a year ago

atlantisEVOLUTION Swingers Club. Stoke


"

What happened with the mining industry again?"

We bought French coal instead because it was half the price.

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By *ionelhutzMan
over a year ago

liverpool


"

What happened with the mining industry again?

We bought French coal instead because it was half the price. "

Sound

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By *ionelhutzMan
over a year ago

liverpool


"A new £52m line has been unveiled at the Nissan plant in Sunderland as the firm gears up to build the new Qashqai.

The £52m XL press line is part of a £400m investment in the Sunderland plant. The £400m invested for Qashqai comes on top of the £100m invested for the launch of new Juke, and is part of an overall £1bn planned investment into the plant by Nissan over five years.

The new machinery was unveiled in an official ceremony, led by Nissan Chief Operating Officer Ashwani Gupta, who said the company's UK staff "continues to set the standard for productivity and quality."

Good news for Sunderland and the North East

Great leaving the EU,this is why tories won so many seats up there

Yep the Tories have always had high esteem for the north east like labour when they let our steelworks close none of the party’s have done much for the north east mate

What happened with the mining industry again?

Do you think they should have kept that going? "

She destroyed an industry so she could crush a union

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By *ssexbloke72Man
over a year ago

Poplar


"A new £52m line has been unveiled at the Nissan plant in Sunderland as the firm gears up to build the new Qashqai.

The £52m XL press line is part of a £400m investment in the Sunderland plant. The £400m invested for Qashqai comes on top of the £100m invested for the launch of new Juke, and is part of an overall £1bn planned investment into the plant by Nissan over five years.

The new machinery was unveiled in an official ceremony, led by Nissan Chief Operating Officer Ashwani Gupta, who said the company's UK staff "continues to set the standard for productivity and quality."

Good news for Sunderland and the North East

Great leaving the EU,this is why tories won so many seats up there

Yep the Tories have always had high esteem for the north east like labour when they let our steelworks close none of the party’s have done much for the north east mate

What happened with the mining industry again?"

On the other hand you could argue the Government at the time were ahead in forward thinking.

EU Directive 2001/77/EC The promotion of electricity produced from renewable energy sources would have made the UK look into closing the coal mining anyway.

Oh and that would have been under a Labour government.!

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By *ionelhutzMan
over a year ago

liverpool


"

What happened with the mining industry again?

We bought French coal instead because it was half the price. "

And wasmt it south African?

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By *atEvolutionCouple
over a year ago

atlantisEVOLUTION Swingers Club. Stoke


"A new £52m line has been unveiled at the Nissan plant in Sunderland as the firm gears up to build the new Qashqai.

The £52m XL press line is part of a £400m investment in the Sunderland plant. The £400m invested for Qashqai comes on top of the £100m invested for the launch of new Juke, and is part of an overall £1bn planned investment into the plant by Nissan over five years.

The new machinery was unveiled in an official ceremony, led by Nissan Chief Operating Officer Ashwani Gupta, who said the company's UK staff "continues to set the standard for productivity and quality."

Good news for Sunderland and the North East

Great leaving the EU,this is why tories won so many seats up there

Yep the Tories have always had high esteem for the north east like labour when they let our steelworks close none of the party’s have done much for the north east mate

What happened with the mining industry again?

Do you think they should have kept that going?

She destroyed an industry so she could crush a union "

True (All Union Law was re-written under Thatcher) - but we still bought French coal because it was half the price.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"A new £52m line has been unveiled at the Nissan plant in Sunderland as the firm gears up to build the new Qashqai.

The £52m XL press line is part of a £400m investment in the Sunderland plant. The £400m invested for Qashqai comes on top of the £100m invested for the launch of new Juke, and is part of an overall £1bn planned investment into the plant by Nissan over five years.

The new machinery was unveiled in an official ceremony, led by Nissan Chief Operating Officer Ashwani Gupta, who said the company's UK staff "continues to set the standard for productivity and quality."

Good news for Sunderland and the North East

Great leaving the EU,this is why tories won so many seats up there

Yep the Tories have always had high esteem for the north east like labour when they let our steelworks close none of the party’s have done much for the north east mate

What happened with the mining industry again?

Do you think they should have kept that going?

She destroyed an industry so she could crush a union "

They both needed destroying

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By *exy7Man
over a year ago

Bristol


"A new £52m line has been unveiled at the Nissan plant in Sunderland as the firm gears up to build the new Qashqai.

The £52m XL press line is part of a £400m investment in the Sunderland plant. The £400m invested for Qashqai comes on top of the £100m invested for the launch of new Juke, and is part of an overall £1bn planned investment into the plant by Nissan over five years.

The new machinery was unveiled in an official ceremony, led by Nissan Chief Operating Officer Ashwani Gupta, who said the company's UK staff "continues to set the standard for productivity and quality."

Good news for Sunderland and the North East

Great leaving the EU,this is why tories won so many seats up there

Yep the Tories have always had high esteem for the north east like labour when they let our steelworks close none of the party’s have done much for the north east mate

What happened with the mining industry again?

Do you think they should have kept that going?

She destroyed an industry so she could crush a union

They both needed destroying"

So did she.

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By *ionelhutzMan
over a year ago

liverpool


"A new £52m line has been unveiled at the Nissan plant in Sunderland as the firm gears up to build the new Qashqai.

The £52m XL press line is part of a £400m investment in the Sunderland plant. The £400m invested for Qashqai comes on top of the £100m invested for the launch of new Juke, and is part of an overall £1bn planned investment into the plant by Nissan over five years.

The new machinery was unveiled in an official ceremony, led by Nissan Chief Operating Officer Ashwani Gupta, who said the company's UK staff "continues to set the standard for productivity and quality."

Good news for Sunderland and the North East

Great leaving the EU,this is why tories won so many seats up there

Yep the Tories have always had high esteem for the north east like labour when they let our steelworks close none of the party’s have done much for the north east mate

What happened with the mining industry again?

Do you think they should have kept that going?

She destroyed an industry so she could crush a union

They both needed destroying"

And some people think tories lack compassion

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By *ionelhutzMan
over a year ago

liverpool


"A new £52m line has been unveiled at the Nissan plant in Sunderland as the firm gears up to build the new Qashqai.

The £52m XL press line is part of a £400m investment in the Sunderland plant. The £400m invested for Qashqai comes on top of the £100m invested for the launch of new Juke, and is part of an overall £1bn planned investment into the plant by Nissan over five years.

The new machinery was unveiled in an official ceremony, led by Nissan Chief Operating Officer Ashwani Gupta, who said the company's UK staff "continues to set the standard for productivity and quality."

Good news for Sunderland and the North East

Great leaving the EU,this is why tories won so many seats up there

Yep the Tories have always had high esteem for the north east like labour when they let our steelworks close none of the party’s have done much for the north east mate

What happened with the mining industry again?

Do you think they should have kept that going?

She destroyed an industry so she could crush a union

True (All Union Law was re-written under Thatcher) - but we still bought French coal because it was half the price.

"

Putting British jobs 1st again eh?

God bless em

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By *ionelhutzMan
over a year ago

liverpool


"A new £52m line has been unveiled at the Nissan plant in Sunderland as the firm gears up to build the new Qashqai.

The £52m XL press line is part of a £400m investment in the Sunderland plant. The £400m invested for Qashqai comes on top of the £100m invested for the launch of new Juke, and is part of an overall £1bn planned investment into the plant by Nissan over five years.

The new machinery was unveiled in an official ceremony, led by Nissan Chief Operating Officer Ashwani Gupta, who said the company's UK staff "continues to set the standard for productivity and quality."

Good news for Sunderland and the North East

Great leaving the EU,this is why tories won so many seats up there

Yep the Tories have always had high esteem for the north east like labour when they let our steelworks close none of the party’s have done much for the north east mate

What happened with the mining industry again?

Do you think they should have kept that going?

She destroyed an industry so she could crush a union

They both needed destroying

So did she."

She is somewhere nice and warm now.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"A new £52m line has been unveiled at the Nissan plant in Sunderland as the firm gears up to build the new Qashqai.

The £52m XL press line is part of a £400m investment in the Sunderland plant. The £400m invested for Qashqai comes on top of the £100m invested for the launch of new Juke, and is part of an overall £1bn planned investment into the plant by Nissan over five years.

The new machinery was unveiled in an official ceremony, led by Nissan Chief Operating Officer Ashwani Gupta, who said the company's UK staff "continues to set the standard for productivity and quality."

Good news for Sunderland and the North East

Great leaving the EU,this is why tories won so many seats up there

Yep the Tories have always had high esteem for the north east like labour when they let our steelworks close none of the party’s have done much for the north east mate

What happened with the mining industry again?

Do you think they should have kept that going?

She destroyed an industry so she could crush a union

They both needed destroying

And some people think tories lack compassion "

The compassionate thing to do was to close them down. I went down for a week and and I would never send a son of mine down one

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By *ionelhutzMan
over a year ago

liverpool


"A new £52m line has been unveiled at the Nissan plant in Sunderland as the firm gears up to build the new Qashqai.

The £52m XL press line is part of a £400m investment in the Sunderland plant. The £400m invested for Qashqai comes on top of the £100m invested for the launch of new Juke, and is part of an overall £1bn planned investment into the plant by Nissan over five years.

The new machinery was unveiled in an official ceremony, led by Nissan Chief Operating Officer Ashwani Gupta, who said the company's UK staff "continues to set the standard for productivity and quality."

Good news for Sunderland and the North East

Great leaving the EU,this is why tories won so many seats up there

Yep the Tories have always had high esteem for the north east like labour when they let our steelworks close none of the party’s have done much for the north east mate

What happened with the mining industry again?

Do you think they should have kept that going?

She destroyed an industry so she could crush a union

They both needed destroying

And some people think tories lack compassion

The compassionate thing to do was to close them down. I went down for a week and and I would never send a son of mine down one "

Thatcher wouldn't know the meaning of the word compassion if it slapped her in the face

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By *heBirminghamWeekend OP   Man
over a year ago

here


"Now confirmed - Nissan will be building the new e-power Qashqui in the UK at the Sunderland plant.

No new jobs, however, the continued commitment to the British plant is good news for Wearside and the North East.

great news - thanks for sharing"

Welcome

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By *heBirminghamWeekend OP   Man
over a year ago

here


"A new £52m line has been unveiled at the Nissan plant in Sunderland as the firm gears up to build the new Qashqai.

The £52m XL press line is part of a £400m investment in the Sunderland plant. The £400m invested for Qashqai comes on top of the £100m invested for the launch of new Juke, and is part of an overall £1bn planned investment into the plant by Nissan over five years.

The new machinery was unveiled in an official ceremony, led by Nissan Chief Operating Officer Ashwani Gupta, who said the company's UK staff "continues to set the standard for productivity and quality."

Good news for Sunderland and the North East

Great leaving the EU,this is why tories won so many seats up there

Yep the Tories have always had high esteem for the north east like labour when they let our steelworks close none of the party’s have done much for the north east mate "

Tees Valley mayor Ben Houchen appears to be on a mission to redress this. Lots going on from investment in Teesside airport, hydrogen transport hub and Teesport, to the news another huge Amazon distribution centre coming to Wynyard, creating thousands of jobs.

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By *oxychick35Couple
over a year ago

thornaby


"A new £52m line has been unveiled at the Nissan plant in Sunderland as the firm gears up to build the new Qashqai.

The £52m XL press line is part of a £400m investment in the Sunderland plant. The £400m invested for Qashqai comes on top of the £100m invested for the launch of new Juke, and is part of an overall £1bn planned investment into the plant by Nissan over five years.

The new machinery was unveiled in an official ceremony, led by Nissan Chief Operating Officer Ashwani Gupta, who said the company's UK staff "continues to set the standard for productivity and quality."

Good news for Sunderland and the North East

Great leaving the EU,this is why tories won so many seats up there

Yep the Tories have always had high esteem for the north east like labour when they let our steelworks close none of the party’s have done much for the north east mate

Tees Valley mayor Ben Houchen appears to be on a mission to redress this. Lots going on from investment in Teesside airport, hydrogen transport hub and Teesport, to the news another huge Amazon distribution centre coming to Wynyard, creating thousands of jobs."
exactly teesside as never seen so much investment comeing it’s way great news

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By *obka3Couple
over a year ago

bournemouth

Certainly more investment needs making north of brum,

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By *ackal1Couple
over a year ago

Manchester


"A new £52m line has been unveiled at the Nissan plant in Sunderland as the firm gears up to build the new Qashqai.

The £52m XL press line is part of a £400m investment in the Sunderland plant. The £400m invested for Qashqai comes on top of the £100m invested for the launch of new Juke, and is part of an overall £1bn planned investment into the plant by Nissan over five years.

The new machinery was unveiled in an official ceremony, led by Nissan Chief Operating Officer Ashwani Gupta, who said the company's UK staff "continues to set the standard for productivity and quality."

Good news for Sunderland and the North East

Great leaving the EU,this is why tories won so many seats up there

Yep the Tories have always had high esteem for the north east like labour when they let our steelworks close none of the party’s have done much for the north east mate

Tees Valley mayor Ben Houchen appears to be on a mission to redress this. Lots going on from investment in Teesside airport, hydrogen transport hub and Teesport, to the news another huge Amazon distribution centre coming to Wynyard, creating thousands of jobs."

I’m all for Teeside getting more employment as they deserve it after being crapped on for years. The mention of Amazon is good for them but I so wish it was better paid skilled jobs, Amazon is low skill and the more we buy off Amazon the more shop keepers are out of work and communities die.

In the US Walmart was responsible for killing off the main streets but now it’s Amazon killing of the out of town shops on top of the high street.

It’s like when Tesco move into a market town. They kill the town centre and announce how many jobs they’ve brought but no mention of the shop worker jobs in the community lost. The profits go back to London and are not spent locally. Spiral is always down.

Good luck to Teeside and I genuinely mean it. I hope the car jobs stay at Nissan. Those guy’s hard work is what’s kept Nissan there so far.

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By *oxychick35Couple
over a year ago

thornaby


"A new £52m line has been unveiled at the Nissan plant in Sunderland as the firm gears up to build the new Qashqai.

The £52m XL press line is part of a £400m investment in the Sunderland plant. The £400m invested for Qashqai comes on top of the £100m invested for the launch of new Juke, and is part of an overall £1bn planned investment into the plant by Nissan over five years.

The new machinery was unveiled in an official ceremony, led by Nissan Chief Operating Officer Ashwani Gupta, who said the company's UK staff "continues to set the standard for productivity and quality."

Good news for Sunderland and the North East

Great leaving the EU,this is why tories won so many seats up there

Yep the Tories have always had high esteem for the north east like labour when they let our steelworks close none of the party’s have done much for the north east mate

Tees Valley mayor Ben Houchen appears to be on a mission to redress this. Lots going on from investment in Teesside airport, hydrogen transport hub and Teesport, to the news another huge Amazon distribution centre coming to Wynyard, creating thousands of jobs.

I’m all for Teeside getting more employment as they deserve it after being crapped on for years. The mention of Amazon is good for them but I so wish it was better paid skilled jobs, Amazon is low skill and the more we buy off Amazon the more shop keepers are out of work and communities die.

In the US Walmart was responsible for killing off the main streets but now it’s Amazon killing of the out of town shops on top of the high street.

It’s like when Tesco move into a market town. They kill the town centre and announce how many jobs they’ve brought but no mention of the shop worker jobs in the community lost. The profits go back to London and are not spent locally. Spiral is always down.

Good luck to Teeside and I genuinely mean it. I hope the car jobs stay at Nissan. Those guy’s hard work is what’s kept Nissan there so far. "
thank you bud looks like Nissan are safe and I think most the jobs at Amazon are well above minimum wage judging by the amount trying to get in there

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over a year ago


"A new £52m line has been unveiled at the Nissan plant in Sunderland as the firm gears up to build the new Qashqai.

The £52m XL press line is part of a £400m investment in the Sunderland plant. The £400m invested for Qashqai comes on top of the £100m invested for the launch of new Juke, and is part of an overall £1bn planned investment into the plant by Nissan over five years.

The new machinery was unveiled in an official ceremony, led by Nissan Chief Operating Officer Ashwani Gupta, who said the company's UK staff "continues to set the standard for productivity and quality."

Good news for Sunderland and the North East

Great leaving the EU,this is why tories won so many seats up there

Yep the Tories have always had high esteem for the north east like labour when they let our steelworks close none of the party’s have done much for the north east mate

Tees Valley mayor Ben Houchen appears to be on a mission to redress this. Lots going on from investment in Teesside airport, hydrogen transport hub and Teesport, to the news another huge Amazon distribution centre coming to Wynyard, creating thousands of jobs.

I’m all for Teeside getting more employment as they deserve it after being crapped on for years. The mention of Amazon is good for them but I so wish it was better paid skilled jobs, Amazon is low skill and the more we buy off Amazon the more shop keepers are out of work and communities die.

In the US Walmart was responsible for killing off the main streets but now it’s Amazon killing of the out of town shops on top of the high street.

It’s like when Tesco move into a market town. They kill the town centre and announce how many jobs they’ve brought but no mention of the shop worker jobs in the community lost. The profits go back to London and are not spent locally. Spiral is always down.

Good luck to Teeside and I genuinely mean it. I hope the car jobs stay at Nissan. Those guy’s hard work is what’s kept Nissan there so far. "

Those guys hard work? Blimey. Are they Polish?

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By *ackal1Couple
over a year ago

Manchester


"A new £52m line has been unveiled at the Nissan plant in Sunderland as the firm gears up to build the new Qashqai.

The £52m XL press line is part of a £400m investment in the Sunderland plant. The £400m invested for Qashqai comes on top of the £100m invested for the launch of new Juke, and is part of an overall £1bn planned investment into the plant by Nissan over five years.

The new machinery was unveiled in an official ceremony, led by Nissan Chief Operating Officer Ashwani Gupta, who said the company's UK staff "continues to set the standard for productivity and quality."

Good news for Sunderland and the North East

Great leaving the EU,this is why tories won so many seats up there

Yep the Tories have always had high esteem for the north east like labour when they let our steelworks close none of the party’s have done much for the north east mate

Tees Valley mayor Ben Houchen appears to be on a mission to redress this. Lots going on from investment in Teesside airport, hydrogen transport hub and Teesport, to the news another huge Amazon distribution centre coming to Wynyard, creating thousands of jobs.

I’m all for Teeside getting more employment as they deserve it after being crapped on for years. The mention of Amazon is good for them but I so wish it was better paid skilled jobs, Amazon is low skill and the more we buy off Amazon the more shop keepers are out of work and communities die.

In the US Walmart was responsible for killing off the main streets but now it’s Amazon killing of the out of town shops on top of the high street.

It’s like when Tesco move into a market town. They kill the town centre and announce how many jobs they’ve brought but no mention of the shop worker jobs in the community lost. The profits go back to London and are not spent locally. Spiral is always down.

Good luck to Teeside and I genuinely mean it. I hope the car jobs stay at Nissan. Those guy’s hard work is what’s kept Nissan there so far. thank you bud looks like Nissan are safe and I think most the jobs at Amazon are well above minimum wage judging by the amount trying to get in there "

They are and at the moment it’s around £12 per hour on a 12 hour shift. Two half hour breaks and if you go to the toilet it’s classed as an unauthorised break resulting in loss of income.

I’m not knocking it as it’s a job which is good and certainly better than minimum wage or being unemployed. So if you need a job then go for it and all power to them. I just wish the opportunities were better for such a hard working area.

I remember going to an engineering works in felling on a regular basis and the guys there always made me a cuppa and feel very welcome over the years. They were on an industrial estate with about eight other engineering firms.

I didn’t go for a couple of years and was passing so decided to say hello,

The factory was empty and the last of the machines was being removed. On that whole industrial estate there was only one small factory left. The only other occupant was a bargain store.

All those skilled workers turned out on their ear. I was actually shocked and so sad for the guys I’d known.

So yes rose coloured spectacles I know but the skills we keep losing will never come back.

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By *oxychick35Couple
over a year ago

thornaby


"A new £52m line has been unveiled at the Nissan plant in Sunderland as the firm gears up to build the new Qashqai.

The £52m XL press line is part of a £400m investment in the Sunderland plant. The £400m invested for Qashqai comes on top of the £100m invested for the launch of new Juke, and is part of an overall £1bn planned investment into the plant by Nissan over five years.

The new machinery was unveiled in an official ceremony, led by Nissan Chief Operating Officer Ashwani Gupta, who said the company's UK staff "continues to set the standard for productivity and quality."

Good news for Sunderland and the North East

Great leaving the EU,this is why tories won so many seats up there

Yep the Tories have always had high esteem for the north east like labour when they let our steelworks close none of the party’s have done much for the north east mate

Tees Valley mayor Ben Houchen appears to be on a mission to redress this. Lots going on from investment in Teesside airport, hydrogen transport hub and Teesport, to the news another huge Amazon distribution centre coming to Wynyard, creating thousands of jobs.

I’m all for Teeside getting more employment as they deserve it after being crapped on for years. The mention of Amazon is good for them but I so wish it was better paid skilled jobs, Amazon is low skill and the more we buy off Amazon the more shop keepers are out of work and communities die.

In the US Walmart was responsible for killing off the main streets but now it’s Amazon killing of the out of town shops on top of the high street.

It’s like when Tesco move into a market town. They kill the town centre and announce how many jobs they’ve brought but no mention of the shop worker jobs in the community lost. The profits go back to London and are not spent locally. Spiral is always down.

Good luck to Teeside and I genuinely mean it. I hope the car jobs stay at Nissan. Those guy’s hard work is what’s kept Nissan there so far. thank you bud looks like Nissan are safe and I think most the jobs at Amazon are well above minimum wage judging by the amount trying to get in there

They are and at the moment it’s around £12 per hour on a 12 hour shift. Two half hour breaks and if you go to the toilet it’s classed as an unauthorised break resulting in loss of income.

I’m not knocking it as it’s a job which is good and certainly better than minimum wage or being unemployed. So if you need a job then go for it and all power to them. I just wish the opportunities were better for such a hard working area.

I remember going to an engineering works in felling on a regular basis and the guys there always made me a cuppa and feel very welcome over the years. They were on an industrial estate with about eight other engineering firms.

I didn’t go for a couple of years and was passing so decided to say hello,

The factory was empty and the last of the machines was being removed. On that whole industrial estate there was only one small factory left. The only other occupant was a bargain store.

All those skilled workers turned out on their ear. I was actually shocked and so sad for the guys I’d known.

So yes rose coloured spectacles I know but the skills we keep losing will never come back. "
we have been shit on for decades of labour and the torys it’s a disgrace we have the shortest life expectancy in England highest death rate highest suicide rate and the least spent per capita but still the warmest most welcoming funniest ppl you will come across fuck knows how tho lol

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By *ackal1Couple
over a year ago

Manchester


"A new £52m line has been unveiled at the Nissan plant in Sunderland as the firm gears up to build the new Qashqai.

The £52m XL press line is part of a £400m investment in the Sunderland plant. The £400m invested for Qashqai comes on top of the £100m invested for the launch of new Juke, and is part of an overall £1bn planned investment into the plant by Nissan over five years.

The new machinery was unveiled in an official ceremony, led by Nissan Chief Operating Officer Ashwani Gupta, who said the company's UK staff "continues to set the standard for productivity and quality."

Good news for Sunderland and the North East

Great leaving the EU,this is why tories won so many seats up there

Yep the Tories have always had high esteem for the north east like labour when they let our steelworks close none of the party’s have done much for the north east mate

Tees Valley mayor Ben Houchen appears to be on a mission to redress this. Lots going on from investment in Teesside airport, hydrogen transport hub and Teesport, to the news another huge Amazon distribution centre coming to Wynyard, creating thousands of jobs.

I’m all for Teeside getting more employment as they deserve it after being crapped on for years. The mention of Amazon is good for them but I so wish it was better paid skilled jobs, Amazon is low skill and the more we buy off Amazon the more shop keepers are out of work and communities die.

In the US Walmart was responsible for killing off the main streets but now it’s Amazon killing of the out of town shops on top of the high street.

It’s like when Tesco move into a market town. They kill the town centre and announce how many jobs they’ve brought but no mention of the shop worker jobs in the community lost. The profits go back to London and are not spent locally. Spiral is always down.

Good luck to Teeside and I genuinely mean it. I hope the car jobs stay at Nissan. Those guy’s hard work is what’s kept Nissan there so far. thank you bud looks like Nissan are safe and I think most the jobs at Amazon are well above minimum wage judging by the amount trying to get in there

They are and at the moment it’s around £12 per hour on a 12 hour shift. Two half hour breaks and if you go to the toilet it’s classed as an unauthorised break resulting in loss of income.

I’m not knocking it as it’s a job which is good and certainly better than minimum wage or being unemployed. So if you need a job then go for it and all power to them. I just wish the opportunities were better for such a hard working area.

I remember going to an engineering works in felling on a regular basis and the guys there always made me a cuppa and feel very welcome over the years. They were on an industrial estate with about eight other engineering firms.

I didn’t go for a couple of years and was passing so decided to say hello,

The factory was empty and the last of the machines was being removed. On that whole industrial estate there was only one small factory left. The only other occupant was a bargain store.

All those skilled workers turned out on their ear. I was actually shocked and so sad for the guys I’d known.

So yes rose coloured spectacles I know but the skills we keep losing will never come back. we have been shit on for decades of labour and the torys it’s a disgrace we have the shortest life expectancy in England highest death rate highest suicide rate and the least spent per capita but still the warmest most welcoming funniest ppl you will come across fuck knows how tho lol"

Always look on the bright/side of life!!

I’ve always loved the North east people.well the ones I’ve met. Many a night partying in the big market or my personal favourite the Tuxedo Royale with the slanted turntable dance floor. Just awesome.

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By *oxychick35Couple
over a year ago

thornaby


"A new £52m line has been unveiled at the Nissan plant in Sunderland as the firm gears up to build the new Qashqai.

The £52m XL press line is part of a £400m investment in the Sunderland plant. The £400m invested for Qashqai comes on top of the £100m invested for the launch of new Juke, and is part of an overall £1bn planned investment into the plant by Nissan over five years.

The new machinery was unveiled in an official ceremony, led by Nissan Chief Operating Officer Ashwani Gupta, who said the company's UK staff "continues to set the standard for productivity and quality."

Good news for Sunderland and the North East

Great leaving the EU,this is why tories won so many seats up there

Yep the Tories have always had high esteem for the north east like labour when they let our steelworks close none of the party’s have done much for the north east mate

Tees Valley mayor Ben Houchen appears to be on a mission to redress this. Lots going on from investment in Teesside airport, hydrogen transport hub and Teesport, to the news another huge Amazon distribution centre coming to Wynyard, creating thousands of jobs.

I’m all for Teeside getting more employment as they deserve it after being crapped on for years. The mention of Amazon is good for them but I so wish it was better paid skilled jobs, Amazon is low skill and the more we buy off Amazon the more shop keepers are out of work and communities die.

In the US Walmart was responsible for killing off the main streets but now it’s Amazon killing of the out of town shops on top of the high street.

It’s like when Tesco move into a market town. They kill the town centre and announce how many jobs they’ve brought but no mention of the shop worker jobs in the community lost. The profits go back to London and are not spent locally. Spiral is always down.

Good luck to Teeside and I genuinely mean it. I hope the car jobs stay at Nissan. Those guy’s hard work is what’s kept Nissan there so far. thank you bud looks like Nissan are safe and I think most the jobs at Amazon are well above minimum wage judging by the amount trying to get in there

They are and at the moment it’s around £12 per hour on a 12 hour shift. Two half hour breaks and if you go to the toilet it’s classed as an unauthorised break resulting in loss of income.

I’m not knocking it as it’s a job which is good and certainly better than minimum wage or being unemployed. So if you need a job then go for it and all power to them. I just wish the opportunities were better for such a hard working area.

I remember going to an engineering works in felling on a regular basis and the guys there always made me a cuppa and feel very welcome over the years. They were on an industrial estate with about eight other engineering firms.

I didn’t go for a couple of years and was passing so decided to say hello,

The factory was empty and the last of the machines was being removed. On that whole industrial estate there was only one small factory left. The only other occupant was a bargain store.

All those skilled workers turned out on their ear. I was actually shocked and so sad for the guys I’d known.

So yes rose coloured spectacles I know but the skills we keep losing will never come back. we have been shit on for decades of labour and the torys it’s a disgrace we have the shortest life expectancy in England highest death rate highest suicide rate and the least spent per capita but still the warmest most welcoming funniest ppl you will come across fuck knows how tho lol

Always look on the bright/side of life!!

I’ve always loved the North east people.well the ones I’ve met. Many a night partying in the big market or my personal favourite the Tuxedo Royale with the slanted turntable dance floor. Just awesome.

"
haha it came down here to boro for a few yrs moored near riverside stadium was class what a boat fell of that dance floor few times couldn’t get used to it turning rnd kept walking of sitting wrong tables other side of room lol it’s scrap now lol

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By *ackal1Couple
over a year ago

Manchester


"A new £52m line has been unveiled at the Nissan plant in Sunderland as the firm gears up to build the new Qashqai.

The £52m XL press line is part of a £400m investment in the Sunderland plant. The £400m invested for Qashqai comes on top of the £100m invested for the launch of new Juke, and is part of an overall £1bn planned investment into the plant by Nissan over five years.

The new machinery was unveiled in an official ceremony, led by Nissan Chief Operating Officer Ashwani Gupta, who said the company's UK staff "continues to set the standard for productivity and quality."

Good news for Sunderland and the North East

Great leaving the EU,this is why tories won so many seats up there

Yep the Tories have always had high esteem for the north east like labour when they let our steelworks close none of the party’s have done much for the north east mate

Tees Valley mayor Ben Houchen appears to be on a mission to redress this. Lots going on from investment in Teesside airport, hydrogen transport hub and Teesport, to the news another huge Amazon distribution centre coming to Wynyard, creating thousands of jobs.

I’m all for Teeside getting more employment as they deserve it after being crapped on for years. The mention of Amazon is good for them but I so wish it was better paid skilled jobs, Amazon is low skill and the more we buy off Amazon the more shop keepers are out of work and communities die.

In the US Walmart was responsible for killing off the main streets but now it’s Amazon killing of the out of town shops on top of the high street.

It’s like when Tesco move into a market town. They kill the town centre and announce how many jobs they’ve brought but no mention of the shop worker jobs in the community lost. The profits go back to London and are not spent locally. Spiral is always down.

Good luck to Teeside and I genuinely mean it. I hope the car jobs stay at Nissan. Those guy’s hard work is what’s kept Nissan there so far. thank you bud looks like Nissan are safe and I think most the jobs at Amazon are well above minimum wage judging by the amount trying to get in there

They are and at the moment it’s around £12 per hour on a 12 hour shift. Two half hour breaks and if you go to the toilet it’s classed as an unauthorised break resulting in loss of income.

I’m not knocking it as it’s a job which is good and certainly better than minimum wage or being unemployed. So if you need a job then go for it and all power to them. I just wish the opportunities were better for such a hard working area.

I remember going to an engineering works in felling on a regular basis and the guys there always made me a cuppa and feel very welcome over the years. They were on an industrial estate with about eight other engineering firms.

I didn’t go for a couple of years and was passing so decided to say hello,

The factory was empty and the last of the machines was being removed. On that whole industrial estate there was only one small factory left. The only other occupant was a bargain store.

All those skilled workers turned out on their ear. I was actually shocked and so sad for the guys I’d known.

So yes rose coloured spectacles I know but the skills we keep losing will never come back. we have been shit on for decades of labour and the torys it’s a disgrace we have the shortest life expectancy in England highest death rate highest suicide rate and the least spent per capita but still the warmest most welcoming funniest ppl you will come across fuck knows how tho lol

Always look on the bright/side of life!!

I’ve always loved the North east people.well the ones I’ve met. Many a night partying in the big market or my personal favourite the Tuxedo Royale with the slanted turntable dance floor. Just awesome.

haha it came down here to boro for a few yrs moored near riverside stadium was class what a boat fell of that dance floor few times couldn’t get used to it turning rnd kept walking of sitting wrong tables other side of room lol it’s scrap now lol"

Cracking memories of great times. I know it wasn’t but life seemed a lot simpler. Maybe I was just a bit simpler.

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By *kstallionMan
over a year ago

milton keynes


"Now confirmed - Nissan will be building the new e-power Qashqui in the UK at the Sunderland plant.

No new jobs, however, the continued commitment to the British plant is good news for Wearside and the North East."

They are to build both E-power and ICE Qashqui along with the models already being produced there. A big difference to the stories going around including on here about the future of the plant

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By *oxychick35Couple
over a year ago

thornaby


"A new £52m line has been unveiled at the Nissan plant in Sunderland as the firm gears up to build the new Qashqai.

The £52m XL press line is part of a £400m investment in the Sunderland plant. The £400m invested for Qashqai comes on top of the £100m invested for the launch of new Juke, and is part of an overall £1bn planned investment into the plant by Nissan over five years.

The new machinery was unveiled in an official ceremony, led by Nissan Chief Operating Officer Ashwani Gupta, who said the company's UK staff "continues to set the standard for productivity and quality."

Good news for Sunderland and the North East

Great leaving the EU,this is why tories won so many seats up there

Yep the Tories have always had high esteem for the north east like labour when they let our steelworks close none of the party’s have done much for the north east mate

Tees Valley mayor Ben Houchen appears to be on a mission to redress this. Lots going on from investment in Teesside airport, hydrogen transport hub and Teesport, to the news another huge Amazon distribution centre coming to Wynyard, creating thousands of jobs.

I’m all for Teeside getting more employment as they deserve it after being crapped on for years. The mention of Amazon is good for them but I so wish it was better paid skilled jobs, Amazon is low skill and the more we buy off Amazon the more shop keepers are out of work and communities die.

In the US Walmart was responsible for killing off the main streets but now it’s Amazon killing of the out of town shops on top of the high street.

It’s like when Tesco move into a market town. They kill the town centre and announce how many jobs they’ve brought but no mention of the shop worker jobs in the community lost. The profits go back to London and are not spent locally. Spiral is always down.

Good luck to Teeside and I genuinely mean it. I hope the car jobs stay at Nissan. Those guy’s hard work is what’s kept Nissan there so far. thank you bud looks like Nissan are safe and I think most the jobs at Amazon are well above minimum wage judging by the amount trying to get in there

They are and at the moment it’s around £12 per hour on a 12 hour shift. Two half hour breaks and if you go to the toilet it’s classed as an unauthorised break resulting in loss of income.

I’m not knocking it as it’s a job which is good and certainly better than minimum wage or being unemployed. So if you need a job then go for it and all power to them. I just wish the opportunities were better for such a hard working area.

I remember going to an engineering works in felling on a regular basis and the guys there always made me a cuppa and feel very welcome over the years. They were on an industrial estate with about eight other engineering firms.

I didn’t go for a couple of years and was passing so decided to say hello,

The factory was empty and the last of the machines was being removed. On that whole industrial estate there was only one small factory left. The only other occupant was a bargain store.

All those skilled workers turned out on their ear. I was actually shocked and so sad for the guys I’d known.

So yes rose coloured spectacles I know but the skills we keep losing will never come back. we have been shit on for decades of labour and the torys it’s a disgrace we have the shortest life expectancy in England highest death rate highest suicide rate and the least spent per capita but still the warmest most welcoming funniest ppl you will come across fuck knows how tho lol

Always look on the bright/side of life!!

I’ve always loved the North east people.well the ones I’ve met. Many a night partying in the big market or my personal favourite the Tuxedo Royale with the slanted turntable dance floor. Just awesome.

haha it came down here to boro for a few yrs moored near riverside stadium was class what a boat fell of that dance floor few times couldn’t get used to it turning rnd kept walking of sitting wrong tables other side of room lol it’s scrap now lol

Cracking memories of great times. I know it wasn’t but life seemed a lot simpler. Maybe I was just a bit simpler. "
100% simpler times bud kill to live it all again if only eh lol

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By *oxychick35Couple
over a year ago

thornaby


"Now confirmed - Nissan will be building the new e-power Qashqui in the UK at the Sunderland plant.

No new jobs, however, the continued commitment to the British plant is good news for Wearside and the North East.

They are to build both E-power and ICE Qashqui along with the models already being produced there. A big difference to the stories going around including on here about the future of the plant"
great news for the full north east

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By *abioMan
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

i'll say exactly the same thing as i said in this thread 8 months ago.......

actually from someone who lives up here and lives a few miles away, it always made sense to build the jukes and qashqai's here because the UK is the biggest selling markets for them.... (its like every 3 or 4 car up here is a juke or qashqai because it feels like everyone knows "someone" who works there and can get the staff discount)

the issue is going to be if other none uk majority selling cars will still end up being made here...

and thats what you will likely find out nearer the end of the year if the UK govt press on with basically the "no deal" narrative!

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By *kstallionMan
over a year ago

milton keynes


"i'll say exactly the same thing as i said in this thread 8 months ago.......

actually from someone who lives up here and lives a few miles away, it always made sense to build the jukes and qashqai's here because the UK is the biggest selling markets for them.... (its like every 3 or 4 car up here is a juke or qashqai because it feels like everyone knows "someone" who works there and can get the staff discount)

the issue is going to be if other none uk majority selling cars will still end up being made here...

and thats what you will likely find out nearer the end of the year if the UK govt press on with basically the "no deal" narrative!"

The qashqai and Juke are indeed popular in fact without them Nissan would have gone under long ago. However the amount produced at Sunderland far exceeds the UK demand. They produce for all of Europe and a bit beyond. Earlier in the year Nissan had a choice to make between closing Sunderland or a European plant. The European plant at Barcelona was chosen to close despite the previous comments from the Nissan directors just before every brexit deadline. These cars are only made at Sunderland for all of Europe, if they was to move production it would have been long before the end of this year as it takes a fortune to do and they simply cannot afford not to build these particular models

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By *mmmMaybeCouple
over a year ago

West Wales

Great for the North ?? & congrats you the workers.

With regard to the Amazon toilet breaks comment. I’ve been on both sides of the argument. Employ ten people & one will almost always take the piss with fag & toilet breaks.

It’s not always tight fisted businesses that start this sort of ball rolling, I’ve known people sit on toilets watching football on their phones during a shift. In the end the company I worked for you had to swipe in & out of the rest rooms.

They didn’t dock pay or ask if you had any problems until after a certain time limit for a shift was gone through.

As another aside my worry with electric cars is long term. No one will buy them after they are five or more years old due to worries on battery failure.

If this is to be resolved manufacturers need to give them 15-20yr guarantees or the prices need to be brought more in line with swapping out an engine.

One of my customers has a near new Volvo XC90 T8, a £70k car which in five years will be worth £20-25k maybe?

it had a recall for a new battery under warranty, the battery has a £17k rrp

No one with half a brain will buy a 5-10yr old electric vehicle & If no one buys them used then just how is an electric vehicle overall better for the environment?

S

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By *kstallionMan
over a year ago

milton keynes


"Great for the North ?? & congrats you the workers.

With regard to the Amazon toilet breaks comment. I’ve been on both sides of the argument. Employ ten people & one will almost always take the piss with fag & toilet breaks.

It’s not always tight fisted businesses that start this sort of ball rolling, I’ve known people sit on toilets watching football on their phones during a shift. In the end the company I worked for you had to swipe in & out of the rest rooms.

They didn’t dock pay or ask if you had any problems until after a certain time limit for a shift was gone through.

As another aside my worry with electric cars is long term. No one will buy them after they are five or more years old due to worries on battery failure.

If this is to be resolved manufacturers need to give them 15-20yr guarantees or the prices need to be brought more in line with swapping out an engine.

One of my customers has a near new Volvo XC90 T8, a £70k car which in five years will be worth £20-25k maybe?

it had a recall for a new battery under warranty, the battery has a £17k rrp

No one with half a brain will buy a 5-10yr old electric vehicle & If no one buys them used then just how is an electric vehicle overall better for the environment?

S"

The battery life has always been my concern and as you say is extremely expensive to replace. I'm glad to say the new e-power qashqai is not a full EV but more a hybrid but with the wheels being powered by the electric motor only meaning not such a large battery seen on normal EV's

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"Good to see a thread everyone is in agreement with, really good news for all the workers and the area generally."

It is about time, as that area has been decimated by companies closed down.

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over a year ago

With a Brexit deadline just days away, Britain's biggest car plant "will not be sustainable" if there is no deal, Nissan has warned.

The company employs 7,000 workers at its Sunderland factory but said that increased tariffs would raise costs.

It cautioned that any delay in overseas supplies of parts because of new customs checks could slow production.

The EU has warned the UK it has less than 10 days left to secure a deal that will govern trade from next year.

Nissan said there must be agreement on a free-trade deal by next week if it is to be ratified in time for the end of the Brexit transition period.

"If it happens without any sustainable business case obviously it is not a question of Sunderland or not Sunderland, obviously our UK business will not be sustainable, that's it," Nissan's chief operating officer Ashwani Gupta told Reuters.

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By *kstallionMan
over a year ago

milton keynes


"With a Brexit deadline just days away, Britain's biggest car plant "will not be sustainable" if there is no deal, Nissan has warned.

The company employs 7,000 workers at its Sunderland factory but said that increased tariffs would raise costs.

It cautioned that any delay in overseas supplies of parts because of new customs checks could slow production.

The EU has warned the UK it has less than 10 days left to secure a deal that will govern trade from next year.

Nissan said there must be agreement on a free-trade deal by next week if it is to be ratified in time for the end of the Brexit transition period.

"If it happens without any sustainable business case obviously it is not a question of Sunderland or not Sunderland, obviously our UK business will not be sustainable, that's it," Nissan's chief operating officer Ashwani Gupta told Reuters."

Indeed and the same said before every deadline approached. Leave if the referendum vote was to leave. Leave if article 50 was implemented. Leave if the withdrawal agreement went through ect ect

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over a year ago


"With a Brexit deadline just days away, Britain's biggest car plant "will not be sustainable" if there is no deal, Nissan has warned.

The company employs 7,000 workers at its Sunderland factory but said that increased tariffs would raise costs.

It cautioned that any delay in overseas supplies of parts because of new customs checks could slow production.

The EU has warned the UK it has less than 10 days left to secure a deal that will govern trade from next year.

Nissan said there must be agreement on a free-trade deal by next week if it is to be ratified in time for the end of the Brexit transition period.

"If it happens without any sustainable business case obviously it is not a question of Sunderland or not Sunderland, obviously our UK business will not be sustainable, that's it," Nissan's chief operating officer Ashwani Gupta told Reuters.

Indeed and the same said before every deadline approached. Leave if the referendum vote was to leave. Leave if article 50 was implemented. Leave if the withdrawal agreement went through ect ect"

I dunno, seems pretty equivocal to me.

The difference is that on 1st of January 2021 things will change if there’s no deal. Nissan will start losing money and if there’s one thing that large Japanese companies with a lean philosophy are known for it’s cutting their losses.

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By *oxychick35Couple
over a year ago

thornaby


"With a Brexit deadline just days away, Britain's biggest car plant "will not be sustainable" if there is no deal, Nissan has warned.

The company employs 7,000 workers at its Sunderland factory but said that increased tariffs would raise costs.

It cautioned that any delay in overseas supplies of parts because of new customs checks could slow production.

The EU has warned the UK it has less than 10 days left to secure a deal that will govern trade from next year.

Nissan said there must be agreement on a free-trade deal by next week if it is to be ratified in time for the end of the Brexit transition period.

"If it happens without any sustainable business case obviously it is not a question of Sunderland or not Sunderland, obviously our UK business will not be sustainable, that's it," Nissan's chief operating officer Ashwani Gupta told Reuters.

Indeed and the same said before every deadline approached. Leave if the referendum vote was to leave. Leave if article 50 was implemented. Leave if the withdrawal agreement went through ect ect

I dunno, seems pretty equivocal to me.

The difference is that on 1st of January 2021 things will change if there’s no deal. Nissan will start losing money and if there’s one thing that large Japanese companies with a lean philosophy are known for it’s cutting their losses."
mate read the post above it’s spot on

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over a year ago


"With a Brexit deadline just days away, Britain's biggest car plant "will not be sustainable" if there is no deal, Nissan has warned.

The company employs 7,000 workers at its Sunderland factory but said that increased tariffs would raise costs.

It cautioned that any delay in overseas supplies of parts because of new customs checks could slow production.

The EU has warned the UK it has less than 10 days left to secure a deal that will govern trade from next year.

Nissan said there must be agreement on a free-trade deal by next week if it is to be ratified in time for the end of the Brexit transition period.

"If it happens without any sustainable business case obviously it is not a question of Sunderland or not Sunderland, obviously our UK business will not be sustainable, that's it," Nissan's chief operating officer Ashwani Gupta told Reuters.

Indeed and the same said before every deadline approached. Leave if the referendum vote was to leave. Leave if article 50 was implemented. Leave if the withdrawal agreement went through ect ect

I dunno, seems pretty equivocal to me.

The difference is that on 1st of January 2021 things will change if there’s no deal. Nissan will start losing money and if there’s one thing that large Japanese companies with a lean philosophy are known for it’s cutting their losses. mate read the post above it’s spot on "

There are none so blind as those who will not see.

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By *oxychick35Couple
over a year ago

thornaby


"With a Brexit deadline just days away, Britain's biggest car plant "will not be sustainable" if there is no deal, Nissan has warned.

The company employs 7,000 workers at its Sunderland factory but said that increased tariffs would raise costs.

It cautioned that any delay in overseas supplies of parts because of new customs checks could slow production.

The EU has warned the UK it has less than 10 days left to secure a deal that will govern trade from next year.

Nissan said there must be agreement on a free-trade deal by next week if it is to be ratified in time for the end of the Brexit transition period.

"If it happens without any sustainable business case obviously it is not a question of Sunderland or not Sunderland, obviously our UK business will not be sustainable, that's it," Nissan's chief operating officer Ashwani Gupta told Reuters.

Indeed and the same said before every deadline approached. Leave if the referendum vote was to leave. Leave if article 50 was implemented. Leave if the withdrawal agreement went through ect ect

I dunno, seems pretty equivocal to me.

The difference is that on 1st of January 2021 things will change if there’s no deal. Nissan will start losing money and if there’s one thing that large Japanese companies with a lean philosophy are known for it’s cutting their losses. mate read the post above it’s spot on

There are none so blind as those who will not see."
is this the first time you have seen this with Nissan ?

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over a year ago


"With a Brexit deadline just days away, Britain's biggest car plant "will not be sustainable" if there is no deal, Nissan has warned.

The company employs 7,000 workers at its Sunderland factory but said that increased tariffs would raise costs.

It cautioned that any delay in overseas supplies of parts because of new customs checks could slow production.

The EU has warned the UK it has less than 10 days left to secure a deal that will govern trade from next year.

Nissan said there must be agreement on a free-trade deal by next week if it is to be ratified in time for the end of the Brexit transition period.

"If it happens without any sustainable business case obviously it is not a question of Sunderland or not Sunderland, obviously our UK business will not be sustainable, that's it," Nissan's chief operating officer Ashwani Gupta told Reuters.

Indeed and the same said before every deadline approached. Leave if the referendum vote was to leave. Leave if article 50 was implemented. Leave if the withdrawal agreement went through ect ect

I dunno, seems pretty equivocal to me.

The difference is that on 1st of January 2021 things will change if there’s no deal. Nissan will start losing money and if there’s one thing that large Japanese companies with a lean philosophy are known for it’s cutting their losses. mate read the post above it’s spot on

There are none so blind as those who will not see. is this the first time you have seen this with Nissan ?"

I’ve worked with Nissan, specifically some of the management team at Sunderland, I know how terrified they’ve been since the Brexit vote.

As I said, the difference is that as of 1/1/2021 Sunderland will start losing money.

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By *kstallionMan
over a year ago

milton keynes


"With a Brexit deadline just days away, Britain's biggest car plant "will not be sustainable" if there is no deal, Nissan has warned.

The company employs 7,000 workers at its Sunderland factory but said that increased tariffs would raise costs.

It cautioned that any delay in overseas supplies of parts because of new customs checks could slow production.

The EU has warned the UK it has less than 10 days left to secure a deal that will govern trade from next year.

Nissan said there must be agreement on a free-trade deal by next week if it is to be ratified in time for the end of the Brexit transition period.

"If it happens without any sustainable business case obviously it is not a question of Sunderland or not Sunderland, obviously our UK business will not be sustainable, that's it," Nissan's chief operating officer Ashwani Gupta told Reuters.

Indeed and the same said before every deadline approached. Leave if the referendum vote was to leave. Leave if article 50 was implemented. Leave if the withdrawal agreement went through ect ect

I dunno, seems pretty equivocal to me.

The difference is that on 1st of January 2021 things will change if there’s no deal. Nissan will start losing money and if there’s one thing that large Japanese companies with a lean philosophy are known for it’s cutting their losses. mate read the post above it’s spot on

There are none so blind as those who will not see. is this the first time you have seen this with Nissan ?

I’ve worked with Nissan, specifically some of the management team at Sunderland, I know how terrified they’ve been since the Brexit vote.

As I said, the difference is that as of 1/1/2021 Sunderland will start losing money."

The problem is they have repeated the same thing time and time again. Your correct that January is a new game but if they wanted to move the production elsewhere it would have to have started ages ago. Instead as you will know they are closing the Barcelona plant.

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By *heBirminghamWeekend OP   Man
over a year ago

here


"With a Brexit deadline just days away, Britain's biggest car plant "will not be sustainable" if there is no deal, Nissan has warned.

The company employs 7,000 workers at its Sunderland factory but said that increased tariffs would raise costs.

It cautioned that any delay in overseas supplies of parts because of new customs checks could slow production.

The EU has warned the UK it has less than 10 days left to secure a deal that will govern trade from next year.

Nissan said there must be agreement on a free-trade deal by next week if it is to be ratified in time for the end of the Brexit transition period.

"If it happens without any sustainable business case obviously it is not a question of Sunderland or not Sunderland, obviously our UK business will not be sustainable, that's it," Nissan's chief operating officer Ashwani Gupta told Reuters.

Indeed and the same said before every deadline approached. Leave if the referendum vote was to leave. Leave if article 50 was implemented. Leave if the withdrawal agreement went through ect ect"

Is this warning from the Nissan COO similar in nature to the warning put out by the German car manufacturers association to the EU, a few backs ago? i.e make sure you get a deal

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over a year ago


"With a Brexit deadline just days away, Britain's biggest car plant "will not be sustainable" if there is no deal, Nissan has warned.

The company employs 7,000 workers at its Sunderland factory but said that increased tariffs would raise costs.

It cautioned that any delay in overseas supplies of parts because of new customs checks could slow production.

The EU has warned the UK it has less than 10 days left to secure a deal that will govern trade from next year.

Nissan said there must be agreement on a free-trade deal by next week if it is to be ratified in time for the end of the Brexit transition period.

"If it happens without any sustainable business case obviously it is not a question of Sunderland or not Sunderland, obviously our UK business will not be sustainable, that's it," Nissan's chief operating officer Ashwani Gupta told Reuters.

Indeed and the same said before every deadline approached. Leave if the referendum vote was to leave. Leave if article 50 was implemented. Leave if the withdrawal agreement went through ect ect

I dunno, seems pretty equivocal to me.

The difference is that on 1st of January 2021 things will change if there’s no deal. Nissan will start losing money and if there’s one thing that large Japanese companies with a lean philosophy are known for it’s cutting their losses. mate read the post above it’s spot on

There are none so blind as those who will not see. is this the first time you have seen this with Nissan ?

I’ve worked with Nissan, specifically some of the management team at Sunderland, I know how terrified they’ve been since the Brexit vote.

As I said, the difference is that as of 1/1/2021 Sunderland will start losing money.

The problem is they have repeated the same thing time and time again. Your correct that January is a new game but if they wanted to move the production elsewhere it would have to have started ages ago. Instead as you will know they are closing the Barcelona plant."

They are, Barcelona was not financially viable so it’s gone, when Sunderland ceases to be financially viable it will go too.

Nissan has three more plants in Spain and as part of the alliance with Renault is already sharing manufacturing arrangements with them. Interestingly Renault has cancelled plans to close plants in France that had been scheduled to cease production.

Also, due to the trade deal Japan signed with the EU, Nissan will no longer have to pay tariffs on cars and parts it produces in Japan and exports to Europe.

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By *kstallionMan
over a year ago

milton keynes


"With a Brexit deadline just days away, Britain's biggest car plant "will not be sustainable" if there is no deal, Nissan has warned.

The company employs 7,000 workers at its Sunderland factory but said that increased tariffs would raise costs.

It cautioned that any delay in overseas supplies of parts because of new customs checks could slow production.

The EU has warned the UK it has less than 10 days left to secure a deal that will govern trade from next year.

Nissan said there must be agreement on a free-trade deal by next week if it is to be ratified in time for the end of the Brexit transition period.

"If it happens without any sustainable business case obviously it is not a question of Sunderland or not Sunderland, obviously our UK business will not be sustainable, that's it," Nissan's chief operating officer Ashwani Gupta told Reuters.

Indeed and the same said before every deadline approached. Leave if the referendum vote was to leave. Leave if article 50 was implemented. Leave if the withdrawal agreement went through ect ect

I dunno, seems pretty equivocal to me.

The difference is that on 1st of January 2021 things will change if there’s no deal. Nissan will start losing money and if there’s one thing that large Japanese companies with a lean philosophy are known for it’s cutting their losses. mate read the post above it’s spot on

There are none so blind as those who will not see. is this the first time you have seen this with Nissan ?

I’ve worked with Nissan, specifically some of the management team at Sunderland, I know how terrified they’ve been since the Brexit vote.

As I said, the difference is that as of 1/1/2021 Sunderland will start losing money.

The problem is they have repeated the same thing time and time again. Your correct that January is a new game but if they wanted to move the production elsewhere it would have to have started ages ago. Instead as you will know they are closing the Barcelona plant.

They are, Barcelona was not financially viable so it’s gone, when Sunderland ceases to be financially viable it will go too.

Nissan has three more plants in Spain and as part of the alliance with Renault is already sharing manufacturing arrangements with them. Interestingly Renault has cancelled plans to close plants in France that had been scheduled to cease production.

Also, due to the trade deal Japan signed with the EU, Nissan will no longer have to pay tariffs on cars and parts it produces in Japan and exports to Europe."

Couple of problems there. Barcelona was viable if it had the work. The problem was the demand for the vehicles they made was very low. The option of moving the Sunderland vehicles to Spain was valid and turns out cheaper than closing it but still they choose Sunderland to make the most important vehicles in their range. This was in the full knowledge that there may not be a deal. The EU deal with Japan does not come into effect with regards to the auto industry for a few years and of course the UK also has the same deal. As you will know Nissan localised its parts suppliers so it does not supply parts from Japan

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over a year ago


"With a Brexit deadline just days away, Britain's biggest car plant "will not be sustainable" if there is no deal, Nissan has warned.

The company employs 7,000 workers at its Sunderland factory but said that increased tariffs would raise costs.

It cautioned that any delay in overseas supplies of parts because of new customs checks could slow production.

The EU has warned the UK it has less than 10 days left to secure a deal that will govern trade from next year.

Nissan said there must be agreement on a free-trade deal by next week if it is to be ratified in time for the end of the Brexit transition period.

"If it happens without any sustainable business case obviously it is not a question of Sunderland or not Sunderland, obviously our UK business will not be sustainable, that's it," Nissan's chief operating officer Ashwani Gupta told Reuters.

Indeed and the same said before every deadline approached. Leave if the referendum vote was to leave. Leave if article 50 was implemented. Leave if the withdrawal agreement went through ect ect

I dunno, seems pretty equivocal to me.

The difference is that on 1st of January 2021 things will change if there’s no deal. Nissan will start losing money and if there’s one thing that large Japanese companies with a lean philosophy are known for it’s cutting their losses. mate read the post above it’s spot on

There are none so blind as those who will not see. is this the first time you have seen this with Nissan ?

I’ve worked with Nissan, specifically some of the management team at Sunderland, I know how terrified they’ve been since the Brexit vote.

As I said, the difference is that as of 1/1/2021 Sunderland will start losing money.

The problem is they have repeated the same thing time and time again. Your correct that January is a new game but if they wanted to move the production elsewhere it would have to have started ages ago. Instead as you will know they are closing the Barcelona plant.

They are, Barcelona was not financially viable so it’s gone, when Sunderland ceases to be financially viable it will go too.

Nissan has three more plants in Spain and as part of the alliance with Renault is already sharing manufacturing arrangements with them. Interestingly Renault has cancelled plans to close plants in France that had been scheduled to cease production.

Also, due to the trade deal Japan signed with the EU, Nissan will no longer have to pay tariffs on cars and parts it produces in Japan and exports to Europe."

But we hold all the cards, don't we?

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over a year ago


"With a Brexit deadline just days away, Britain's biggest car plant "will not be sustainable" if there is no deal, Nissan has warned.

The company employs 7,000 workers at its Sunderland factory but said that increased tariffs would raise costs.

It cautioned that any delay in overseas supplies of parts because of new customs checks could slow production.

The EU has warned the UK it has less than 10 days left to secure a deal that will govern trade from next year.

Nissan said there must be agreement on a free-trade deal by next week if it is to be ratified in time for the end of the Brexit transition period.

"If it happens without any sustainable business case obviously it is not a question of Sunderland or not Sunderland, obviously our UK business will not be sustainable, that's it," Nissan's chief operating officer Ashwani Gupta told Reuters.

Indeed and the same said before every deadline approached. Leave if the referendum vote was to leave. Leave if article 50 was implemented. Leave if the withdrawal agreement went through ect ect

I dunno, seems pretty equivocal to me.

The difference is that on 1st of January 2021 things will change if there’s no deal. Nissan will start losing money and if there’s one thing that large Japanese companies with a lean philosophy are known for it’s cutting their losses. mate read the post above it’s spot on

There are none so blind as those who will not see. is this the first time you have seen this with Nissan ?

I’ve worked with Nissan, specifically some of the management team at Sunderland, I know how terrified they’ve been since the Brexit vote.

As I said, the difference is that as of 1/1/2021 Sunderland will start losing money.

The problem is they have repeated the same thing time and time again. Your correct that January is a new game but if they wanted to move the production elsewhere it would have to have started ages ago. Instead as you will know they are closing the Barcelona plant.

They are, Barcelona was not financially viable so it’s gone, when Sunderland ceases to be financially viable it will go too.

Nissan has three more plants in Spain and as part of the alliance with Renault is already sharing manufacturing arrangements with them. Interestingly Renault has cancelled plans to close plants in France that had been scheduled to cease production.

Also, due to the trade deal Japan signed with the EU, Nissan will no longer have to pay tariffs on cars and parts it produces in Japan and exports to Europe.

Couple of problems there. Barcelona was viable if it had the work. The problem was the demand for the vehicles they made was very low. The option of moving the Sunderland vehicles to Spain was valid and turns out cheaper than closing it but still they choose Sunderland to make the most important vehicles in their range. This was in the full knowledge that there may not be a deal. The EU deal with Japan does not come into effect with regards to the auto industry for a few years and of course the UK also has the same deal. As you will know Nissan localised its parts suppliers so it does not supply parts from Japan"

The fact the vehicles it made were in low demand made it unviable, it was losing them money. Sunderland is Nissan’s most efficient European manufacturing plant and will remain so, the issue is that the tariffs placed on what comes out of Sunderland and goes to Europe (about 80% of production currently) will make it a loss making operation.

Nissan will not close the plant overnight, it will take time for the decisions to be made about where the cars will be made but it will be stripped of its work over time. Nissan’s factories compete against each other for work and if there’s a no deal then the European plants will have a huge advantage.

As their COO said, the UK business will not be sustainable. It will be run down and closed when it’s possible to do so.

That the Japanese-EU trade deal doesn’t come into place immediately won’t matter, Nissan will push more work to its Egyptian plant and take advantage of the free trade agreement it has with the EU, and it won’t be too long before Renault’s Indian operation comes into play as talks are ongoing about an EU-India free trade agreement.

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By *kstallionMan
over a year ago

milton keynes


"With a Brexit deadline just days away, Britain's biggest car plant "will not be sustainable" if there is no deal, Nissan has warned.

The company employs 7,000 workers at its Sunderland factory but said that increased tariffs would raise costs.

It cautioned that any delay in overseas supplies of parts because of new customs checks could slow production.

The EU has warned the UK it has less than 10 days left to secure a deal that will govern trade from next year.

Nissan said there must be agreement on a free-trade deal by next week if it is to be ratified in time for the end of the Brexit transition period.

"If it happens without any sustainable business case obviously it is not a question of Sunderland or not Sunderland, obviously our UK business will not be sustainable, that's it," Nissan's chief operating officer Ashwani Gupta told Reuters.

Indeed and the same said before every deadline approached. Leave if the referendum vote was to leave. Leave if article 50 was implemented. Leave if the withdrawal agreement went through ect ect

I dunno, seems pretty equivocal to me.

The difference is that on 1st of January 2021 things will change if there’s no deal. Nissan will start losing money and if there’s one thing that large Japanese companies with a lean philosophy are known for it’s cutting their losses. mate read the post above it’s spot on

There are none so blind as those who will not see. is this the first time you have seen this with Nissan ?

I’ve worked with Nissan, specifically some of the management team at Sunderland, I know how terrified they’ve been since the Brexit vote.

As I said, the difference is that as of 1/1/2021 Sunderland will start losing money.

The problem is they have repeated the same thing time and time again. Your correct that January is a new game but if they wanted to move the production elsewhere it would have to have started ages ago. Instead as you will know they are closing the Barcelona plant.

They are, Barcelona was not financially viable so it’s gone, when Sunderland ceases to be financially viable it will go too.

Nissan has three more plants in Spain and as part of the alliance with Renault is already sharing manufacturing arrangements with them. Interestingly Renault has cancelled plans to close plants in France that had been scheduled to cease production.

Also, due to the trade deal Japan signed with the EU, Nissan will no longer have to pay tariffs on cars and parts it produces in Japan and exports to Europe.

Couple of problems there. Barcelona was viable if it had the work. The problem was the demand for the vehicles they made was very low. The option of moving the Sunderland vehicles to Spain was valid and turns out cheaper than closing it but still they choose Sunderland to make the most important vehicles in their range. This was in the full knowledge that there may not be a deal. The EU deal with Japan does not come into effect with regards to the auto industry for a few years and of course the UK also has the same deal. As you will know Nissan localised its parts suppliers so it does not supply parts from Japan

The fact the vehicles it made were in low demand made it unviable, it was losing them money. Sunderland is Nissan’s most efficient European manufacturing plant and will remain so, the issue is that the tariffs placed on what comes out of Sunderland and goes to Europe (about 80% of production currently) will make it a loss making operation.

Nissan will not close the plant overnight, it will take time for the decisions to be made about where the cars will be made but it will be stripped of its work over time. Nissan’s factories compete against each other for work and if there’s a no deal then the European plants will have a huge advantage.

As their COO said, the UK business will not be sustainable. It will be run down and closed when it’s possible to do so.

That the Japanese-EU trade deal doesn’t come into place immediately won’t matter, Nissan will push more work to its Egyptian plant and take advantage of the free trade agreement it has with the EU, and it won’t be too long before Renault’s Indian operation comes into play as talks are ongoing about an EU-India free trade agreement."

I think you are missing the point or more likely I'm not explaining it well. The Sunderland production could have been moved to Barcelona which was cheaper than closing it. This would have made Barcelona viable again. They choose not to do that and instead increased the investment in Sunderland. The vehicles made at Sunderland are what keeps Nissan going. Basically all of Nissan is at risk if those cars don't sell. Even with the most important cars Nissan backed Sunderland as you say it's highly successful. They simply cannot wait and then act to move production as it takes time and they simply cannot afford to stop production. Nissan have also had their fingers burnt badly using other sites and keen not to have a repeat of the quality problems encountered with the micra. Personally I think they are pushing for money from the government hence the quotes which always happen just before a deadline over and over again

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By *eddy and legsCouple
over a year ago

the wetlands

Meanwhile Nissan warned this morning that failure to agree a deal would raise questions over its future in the UK.

Ashwani Gupta, Nissan's chief operating officer (COO), told Reuters on Wednesday that any final exit by Britain from the European Union that worsens business conditions through increased tariffs would threaten the sustainability of its British operations.

Nissan, which employs 7,000 people at Britain's biggest auto plant in Sunderland, called in June for an 'orderly balanced Brexit'.

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By *ackal1Couple
over a year ago

Manchester


"Meanwhile Nissan warned this morning that failure to agree a deal would raise questions over its future in the UK.

Ashwani Gupta, Nissan's chief operating officer (COO), told Reuters on Wednesday that any final exit by Britain from the European Union that worsens business conditions through increased tariffs would threaten the sustainability of its British operations.

Nissan, which employs 7,000 people at Britain's biggest auto plant in Sunderland, called in June for an 'orderly balanced Brexit'."

Let’s hope they get that subsidy agreed sharpish. To lose a Nissan will be devastating to the North East. I am amazed with such a massive international business on their doorstep they voted to leave.

I think because they’ve been crapped on by the U.K. governments for so long they though fuck it let’s try something new!

Good luck guys.

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over a year ago


"I think you are missing the point or more likely I'm not explaining it well. The Sunderland production could have been moved to Barcelona which was cheaper than closing it. This would have made Barcelona viable again. They choose not to do that and instead increased the investment in Sunderland. The vehicles made at Sunderland are what keeps Nissan going. Basically all of Nissan is at risk if those cars don't sell. Even with the most important cars Nissan backed Sunderland as you say it's highly successful. They simply cannot wait and then act to move production as it takes time and they simply cannot afford to stop production. Nissan have also had their fingers burnt badly using other sites and keen not to have a repeat of the quality problems encountered with the micra. Personally I think they are pushing for money from the government hence the quotes which always happen just before a deadline over and over again"

I understand what you are trying to say but I don't agree with it. Nissan love Sunderland, they think it's fantastic because of how it has embraced Japanese methodologies around lean etc. but they never for one second thought the UK would be foolish enough to vote for Brexit. Having been dismayed by the Brexit vote they pinned their hopes on the UK government not being stupid enough to think no deal was in any way viable, they have now realised just how far away from reality the government has travelled, and it deeply concerns them.

Nissan see Brexit as a massive act of self harm, economic suicide and will no allow themselves to be dragged down with it. IF the government is prepared to make it worth their while to stay in the UK they will but if not they will look to move their production out of the UK as soon as it is viable.

Given the parlous state of Nissan-Renault-Mitsubishi's finances they simply cannot afford to run a loss making operation that has no potential for turnaround through efficiciencies.

I'll state it again, Nissan would prefer to keep Sunderland operating but to think it will do so if it is not financially viable is to completely misunderstand the Japanese business mindset.

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By *ionelhutzMan
over a year ago

liverpool


"Meanwhile Nissan warned this morning that failure to agree a deal would raise questions over its future in the UK.

Ashwani Gupta, Nissan's chief operating officer (COO), told Reuters on Wednesday that any final exit by Britain from the European Union that worsens business conditions through increased tariffs would threaten the sustainability of its British operations.

Nissan, which employs 7,000 people at Britain's biggest auto plant in Sunderland, called in June for an 'orderly balanced Brexit'.

Let’s hope they get that subsidy agreed sharpish. To lose a Nissan will be devastating to the North East. I am amazed with such a massive international business on their doorstep they voted to leave.

I think because they’ve been crapped on by the U.K. governments for so long they though fuck it let’s try something new!

Good luck guys. "

Dunno if it's True but I heard something that when the Brexit vote came through,they all cheered on the work floor.

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By *ionelhutzMan
over a year ago

liverpool


"Meanwhile Nissan warned this morning that failure to agree a deal would raise questions over its future in the UK.

Ashwani Gupta, Nissan's chief operating officer (COO), told Reuters on Wednesday that any final exit by Britain from the European Union that worsens business conditions through increased tariffs would threaten the sustainability of its British operations.

Nissan, which employs 7,000 people at Britain's biggest auto plant in Sunderland, called in June for an 'orderly balanced Brexit'.

Let’s hope they get that subsidy agreed sharpish. To lose a Nissan will be devastating to the North East. I am amazed with such a massive international business on their doorstep they voted to leave.

I think because they’ve been crapped on by the U.K. governments for so long they though fuck it let’s try something new!

Good luck guys. "

I was watching that Thatcher documentary on I player The other day.

It shows how she utterly decimated the north.

Letting industry after industry die while the south prospered. Policies which are still felt 40 years later.

At a protest to this ,parts of the north decided en masse to vote for brexit and the tory party.

I have not got an ounce of sympathy for them.

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By *ackal1Couple
over a year ago

Manchester


"Meanwhile Nissan warned this morning that failure to agree a deal would raise questions over its future in the UK.

Ashwani Gupta, Nissan's chief operating officer (COO), told Reuters on Wednesday that any final exit by Britain from the European Union that worsens business conditions through increased tariffs would threaten the sustainability of its British operations.

Nissan, which employs 7,000 people at Britain's biggest auto plant in Sunderland, called in June for an 'orderly balanced Brexit'.

Let’s hope they get that subsidy agreed sharpish. To lose a Nissan will be devastating to the North East. I am amazed with such a massive international business on their doorstep they voted to leave.

I think because they’ve been crapped on by the U.K. governments for so long they though fuck it let’s try something new!

Good luck guys.

Dunno if it's True but I heard something that when the Brexit vote came through,they all cheered on the work floor."

People lead by a biased media sometimes make mistakes.

I suspect they will be watching the top man closely .

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Meanwhile Nissan warned this morning that failure to agree a deal would raise questions over its future in the UK.

Ashwani Gupta, Nissan's chief operating officer (COO), told Reuters on Wednesday that any final exit by Britain from the European Union that worsens business conditions through increased tariffs would threaten the sustainability of its British operations.

Nissan, which employs 7,000 people at Britain's biggest auto plant in Sunderland, called in June for an 'orderly balanced Brexit'.

Let’s hope they get that subsidy agreed sharpish. To lose a Nissan will be devastating to the North East. I am amazed with such a massive international business on their doorstep they voted to leave.

I think because they’ve been crapped on by the U.K. governments for so long they though fuck it let’s try something new!

Good luck guys.

I was watching that Thatcher documentary on I player The other day.

It shows how she utterly decimated the north.

Letting industry after industry die while the south prospered. Policies which are still felt 40 years later.

At a protest to this ,parts of the north decided en masse to vote for brexit and the tory party.

I have not got an ounce of sympathy for them.

"

And yet you'd be standing alongside Thatcher on EU membership eh

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By *ionelhutzMan
over a year ago

liverpool


"Meanwhile Nissan warned this morning that failure to agree a deal would raise questions over its future in the UK.

Ashwani Gupta, Nissan's chief operating officer (COO), told Reuters on Wednesday that any final exit by Britain from the European Union that worsens business conditions through increased tariffs would threaten the sustainability of its British operations.

Nissan, which employs 7,000 people at Britain's biggest auto plant in Sunderland, called in June for an 'orderly balanced Brexit'.

Let’s hope they get that subsidy agreed sharpish. To lose a Nissan will be devastating to the North East. I am amazed with such a massive international business on their doorstep they voted to leave.

I think because they’ve been crapped on by the U.K. governments for so long they though fuck it let’s try something new!

Good luck guys.

I was watching that Thatcher documentary on I player The other day.

It shows how she utterly decimated the north.

Letting industry after industry die while the south prospered. Policies which are still felt 40 years later.

At a protest to this ,parts of the north decided en masse to vote for brexit and the tory party.

I have not got an ounce of sympathy for them.

And yet you'd be standing alongside Thatcher on EU membership eh"

I'm not even sure what that means

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Meanwhile Nissan warned this morning that failure to agree a deal would raise questions over its future in the UK.

Ashwani Gupta, Nissan's chief operating officer (COO), told Reuters on Wednesday that any final exit by Britain from the European Union that worsens business conditions through increased tariffs would threaten the sustainability of its British operations.

Nissan, which employs 7,000 people at Britain's biggest auto plant in Sunderland, called in June for an 'orderly balanced Brexit'.

Let’s hope they get that subsidy agreed sharpish. To lose a Nissan will be devastating to the North East. I am amazed with such a massive international business on their doorstep they voted to leave.

I think because they’ve been crapped on by the U.K. governments for so long they though fuck it let’s try something new!

Good luck guys.

I was watching that Thatcher documentary on I player The other day.

It shows how she utterly decimated the north.

Letting industry after industry die while the south prospered. Policies which are still felt 40 years later.

At a protest to this ,parts of the north decided en masse to vote for brexit and the tory party.

I have not got an ounce of sympathy for them.

And yet you'd be standing alongside Thatcher on EU membership eh

I'm not even sure what that means "

It means she would have voted to remain just like you

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

One thing Thatcher was good at was realising that the EU was both beneficial for the country and also her party.

The country benefits massively from being part of the EU and the Tories benefitted massively from having a foreign bogeyman to blame everything on. Problem is they became too reliant on the bogeyman to win votes and too many people started to believe the stories they made up about it.

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By *ionelhutzMan
over a year ago

liverpool


"Meanwhile Nissan warned this morning that failure to agree a deal would raise questions over its future in the UK.

Ashwani Gupta, Nissan's chief operating officer (COO), told Reuters on Wednesday that any final exit by Britain from the European Union that worsens business conditions through increased tariffs would threaten the sustainability of its British operations.

Nissan, which employs 7,000 people at Britain's biggest auto plant in Sunderland, called in June for an 'orderly balanced Brexit'.

Let’s hope they get that subsidy agreed sharpish. To lose a Nissan will be devastating to the North East. I am amazed with such a massive international business on their doorstep they voted to leave.

I think because they’ve been crapped on by the U.K. governments for so long they though fuck it let’s try something new!

Good luck guys.

I was watching that Thatcher documentary on I player The other day.

It shows how she utterly decimated the north.

Letting industry after industry die while the south prospered. Policies which are still felt 40 years later.

At a protest to this ,parts of the north decided en masse to vote for brexit and the tory party.

I have not got an ounce of sympathy for them.

And yet you'd be standing alongside Thatcher on EU membership eh

I'm not even sure what that means

It means she would have voted to remain just like you "

I couldn't give a toss what way she voted.

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By *eddy and legsCouple
over a year ago

the wetlands


"Meanwhile Nissan warned this morning that failure to agree a deal would raise questions over its future in the UK.

Ashwani Gupta, Nissan's chief operating officer (COO), told Reuters on Wednesday that any final exit by Britain from the European Union that worsens business conditions through increased tariffs would threaten the sustainability of its British operations.

Nissan, which employs 7,000 people at Britain's biggest auto plant in Sunderland, called in June for an 'orderly balanced Brexit'.

Let’s hope they get that subsidy agreed sharpish. To lose a Nissan will be devastating to the North East. I am amazed with such a massive international business on their doorstep they voted to leave.

I think because they’ve been crapped on by the U.K. governments for so long they though fuck it let’s try something new!

Good luck guys. "

7000 jobs is a mere drop in the ocean of what's probably coming

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Meanwhile Nissan warned this morning that failure to agree a deal would raise questions over its future in the UK.

Ashwani Gupta, Nissan's chief operating officer (COO), told Reuters on Wednesday that any final exit by Britain from the European Union that worsens business conditions through increased tariffs would threaten the sustainability of its British operations.

Nissan, which employs 7,000 people at Britain's biggest auto plant in Sunderland, called in June for an 'orderly balanced Brexit'.

Let’s hope they get that subsidy agreed sharpish. To lose a Nissan will be devastating to the North East. I am amazed with such a massive international business on their doorstep they voted to leave.

I think because they’ve been crapped on by the U.K. governments for so long they though fuck it let’s try something new!

Good luck guys.

7000 jobs is a mere drop in the ocean of what's probably coming"

It will be at least five times that in the North East if Nissan goes.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Meanwhile Nissan warned this morning that failure to agree a deal would raise questions over its future in the UK.

Ashwani Gupta, Nissan's chief operating officer (COO), told Reuters on Wednesday that any final exit by Britain from the European Union that worsens business conditions through increased tariffs would threaten the sustainability of its British operations.

Nissan, which employs 7,000 people at Britain's biggest auto plant in Sunderland, called in June for an 'orderly balanced Brexit'.

Let’s hope they get that subsidy agreed sharpish. To lose a Nissan will be devastating to the North East. I am amazed with such a massive international business on their doorstep they voted to leave.

I think because they’ve been crapped on by the U.K. governments for so long they though fuck it let’s try something new!

Good luck guys.

I was watching that Thatcher documentary on I player The other day.

It shows how she utterly decimated the north.

Letting industry after industry die while the south prospered. Policies which are still felt 40 years later.

At a protest to this ,parts of the north decided en masse to vote for brexit and the tory party.

I have not got an ounce of sympathy for them.

And yet you'd be standing alongside Thatcher on EU membership eh

I'm not even sure what that means

It means she would have voted to remain just like you

I couldn't give a toss what way she voted."

Maybe so. Just pointing out that unlike workers in the North East you and Thatcher think alike

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By *mmmMaybeCouple
over a year ago

West Wales

Hate to say it but 7000 will be a drop in the ocean, even if another 150,000 rely on supply jobs to the factory it’ll still be insignificant in the whole scheme of things.

CV19 is making Brexit & any gains/loses not insignificant but irrelevant. What was before will not be coming back & what comes in the future will not be due to Brexit, but it will be a small part of the world economic downturn.

For all we know if Brexit didn’t exist Sunderland might close due to no one buying cars due to Covid etc.

It’s pretty much like saying “What if Hitler won the war?” Or what if the Royalists won at Worcester?

We can have an idea but we don’t actually know.

CV19 has likely changed any outcome that is coming regardless of Brexit or no Brexit.

S

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By *kstallionMan
over a year ago

milton keynes


"I think you are missing the point or more likely I'm not explaining it well. The Sunderland production could have been moved to Barcelona which was cheaper than closing it. This would have made Barcelona viable again. They choose not to do that and instead increased the investment in Sunderland. The vehicles made at Sunderland are what keeps Nissan going. Basically all of Nissan is at risk if those cars don't sell. Even with the most important cars Nissan backed Sunderland as you say it's highly successful. They simply cannot wait and then act to move production as it takes time and they simply cannot afford to stop production. Nissan have also had their fingers burnt badly using other sites and keen not to have a repeat of the quality problems encountered with the micra. Personally I think they are pushing for money from the government hence the quotes which always happen just before a deadline over and over again

I understand what you are trying to say but I don't agree with it. Nissan love Sunderland, they think it's fantastic because of how it has embraced Japanese methodologies around lean etc. but they never for one second thought the UK would be foolish enough to vote for Brexit. Having been dismayed by the Brexit vote they pinned their hopes on the UK government not being stupid enough to think no deal was in any way viable, they have now realised just how far away from reality the government has travelled, and it deeply concerns them.

Nissan see Brexit as a massive act of self harm, economic suicide and will no allow themselves to be dragged down with it. IF the government is prepared to make it worth their while to stay in the UK they will but if not they will look to move their production out of the UK as soon as it is viable.

Given the parlous state of Nissan-Renault-Mitsubishi's finances they simply cannot afford to run a loss making operation that has no potential for turnaround through efficiciencies.

I'll state it again, Nissan would prefer to keep Sunderland operating but to think it will do so if it is not financially viable is to completely misunderstand the Japanese business mindset."

Thank you for confirming you understand what I'm saying. The fact you do not agree is fine. I do not agree with your take of it either but that's life. I speak to some of my colleagues in Barcelona every week and its not a happy place. They was told after the UK referendum they would get the qashqai and Juke if brexit went ahead but instead are being closed instead. Anyway looks like we have to agree to disagree but sure we can agree Sunderland is a great plant as you rightly said

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By *ackal1Couple
over a year ago

Manchester


"Hate to say it but 7000 will be a drop in the ocean, even if another 150,000 rely on supply jobs to the factory it’ll still be insignificant in the whole scheme of things.

CV19 is making Brexit & any gains/loses not insignificant but irrelevant. What was before will not be coming back & what comes in the future will not be due to Brexit, but it will be a small part of the world economic downturn.

For all we know if Brexit didn’t exist Sunderland might close due to no one buying cars due to Covid etc.

It’s pretty much like saying “What if Hitler won the war?” Or what if the Royalists won at Worcester?

We can have an idea but we don’t actually know.

CV19 has likely changed any outcome that is coming regardless of Brexit or no Brexit.

S"

No you can’t blame Covid for everything. Yes it will be devastating for the country when the furlough ends. But we are adding to it by restricting ease of trade to almost 50% of our economy.

I think you can know the new customs costs are real and affect costs of exporting. If we don’t get a deal the tariffs are astronomical on certain things like lamb and fish. If the cars in Sunderland get tariffs added the only market they will compete in is the U.K.. for a company that’s not doing great globally that’s not good news. Fuck they need a deal.

The banks funds that have moved out of the U.K. have in tax revenue alone exceeded the cost of membership payments to the EU.

So I suspect that it’s going to be negative is pretty much a given.that’s not taking into account the costs so far of this mess.

Has anyone noticed the financial outlook report in relation to Brexit hasn’t been released lately by the government? That’s because without a deal it’s probably a pretty horrific read.

If all goes well and Brexit is a success then in 20 years we may be back to economic success levels of 2016 so that’s good eh.. so again in 20:years our kids will be looking at what we’ve done and say WTF!

Rant away with your petty arguments I don’t care as it’s too late now. If we don’t get a deal you will, reap the wind. If we do and I do think it’s close it will be a fudge and just add to why this has all been such a pointless waste of time.

We can’t survive without trade into Europe whatever your dreams of America first.

The truth hurts but we don’t hold all the cards despite what you’ve been told or will be told over the deal.

We will survive but I’m sure will be poorer. I hope I’m wrong in all honesty.

COVID has just shown how incompetent we are lead. Cummins may have been right when he said how shit this country in a managed. I don’t agree with his low regulation low wage solution though. Covid’s shadow will last for a few years but be gone soon enough.

The rest is down to us. All of us.

Even though I believe Brexit is nuts I will still work hard to make money and pay tax and do my bit. And we will all have to work even harder. I’m British and proud but just lately I’m embarrassed by the decisions and direction we have taken. I still won’t turn my back on this fucked up little island. Good luck everyone .

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By *kstallionMan
over a year ago

milton keynes


"Hate to say it but 7000 will be a drop in the ocean, even if another 150,000 rely on supply jobs to the factory it’ll still be insignificant in the whole scheme of things.

CV19 is making Brexit & any gains/loses not insignificant but irrelevant. What was before will not be coming back & what comes in the future will not be due to Brexit, but it will be a small part of the world economic downturn.

For all we know if Brexit didn’t exist Sunderland might close due to no one buying cars due to Covid etc.

It’s pretty much like saying “What if Hitler won the war?” Or what if the Royalists won at Worcester?

We can have an idea but we don’t actually know.

CV19 has likely changed any outcome that is coming regardless of Brexit or no Brexit.

S

No you can’t blame Covid for everything. Yes it will be devastating for the country when the furlough ends. But we are adding to it by restricting ease of trade to almost 50% of our economy.

I think you can know the new customs costs are real and affect costs of exporting. If we don’t get a deal the tariffs are astronomical on certain things like lamb and fish. If the cars in Sunderland get tariffs added the only market they will compete in is the U.K.. for a company that’s not doing great globally that’s not good news. Fuck they need a deal.

The banks funds that have moved out of the U.K. have in tax revenue alone exceeded the cost of membership payments to the EU.

So I suspect that it’s going to be negative is pretty much a given.that’s not taking into account the costs so far of this mess.

Has anyone noticed the financial outlook report in relation to Brexit hasn’t been released lately by the government? That’s because without a deal it’s probably a pretty horrific read.

If all goes well and Brexit is a success then in 20 years we may be back to economic success levels of 2016 so that’s good eh.. so again in 20:years our kids will be looking at what we’ve done and say WTF!

Rant away with your petty arguments I don’t care as it’s too late now. If we don’t get a deal you will, reap the wind. If we do and I do think it’s close it will be a fudge and just add to why this has all been such a pointless waste of time.

We can’t survive without trade into Europe whatever your dreams of America first.

The truth hurts but we don’t hold all the cards despite what you’ve been told or will be told over the deal.

We will survive but I’m sure will be poorer. I hope I’m wrong in all honesty.

COVID has just shown how incompetent we are lead. Cummins may have been right when he said how shit this country in a managed. I don’t agree with his low regulation low wage solution though. Covid’s shadow will last for a few years but be gone soon enough.

The rest is down to us. All of us.

Even though I believe Brexit is nuts I will still work hard to make money and pay tax and do my bit. And we will all have to work even harder. I’m British and proud but just lately I’m embarrassed by the decisions and direction we have taken. I still won’t turn my back on this fucked up little island. Good luck everyone . "

I assume you are directing that at another poster as I have not mentioned covid. I just mentioned the facts as they are on the ground presently as I have a window into the area. Covid will certainly make it harder to see the effects of brexit especially a no deal but covid won't last forever (hopefully) it does muddy the waters. Even before covid struck Nissan knew the options were down to either a hard brexit or even harder no deal brexit (soft brexit was of the cards with the withdrawal agreement) and choose to shut Barcelona and invest in Sunderland. Like everyone we can't predict the future and just do our best. Good to hear your pressing on and doing what you can

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over a year ago

From electrive.com "As the no-deal Brexit is looming large, Nissan decided against assigning the Sunderland plant to make the new Ariya model. All hopes to increase if not secure production in Britain with the new electric car are dashed as the company appears to have changed plans.

When Nissan presented the Ariya this summer, they had still wanted to manufacture the European allocation in the UK. Now it looks like Nissan has decided against strengthening its foothold on the Isles.

Nikkei states the hard Brexit, meaning the UK leaving the European Union with no trade agreement at the end of the month as the reason for the withdrawal.

The company has not confirmed this line of thought. Nissan will, however, produce the Ariya in Japan for export to Europe when the vehicle goes on sale next year and executives said, this had always been an option, according to Autonews.

The same could be said of persisting pressures on UK car manufacturing due to the Brexit situation. A no-deal Brexit will see British car exports face a ten-percent tariff in the EU. It would increase the cost of UK-made electric cars exported to the EU by an average of £2,000 per vehicle, according to a study conducted by SMMT. By comparison, vehicles made in Japan face a lower 7.5 per cent tariff which, in 2026, will be abolished entirely. Japan’s EPA with Britain takes effect next month and will similarly cancel the auto-tariff as the Japan-EU trade deal.

Handling production of Ariya models heading to Europe and the United States will be Nissan’s plant in Japan’s Tochigi Prefecture just north of Tokyo. Meanwhile, Nissan will manufacture those sold in China locally.

The decision is a blow for Sunderland. The plant has been making the Nissan Leaf EV since 2013 and continues to produce the new model-year of the Leaf. The Ariya, however, is the first electric car Nissan designed from the ground-up since introducing the Leaf almost ten years ago. It sits on a new platform that the company considers as laying grounds for the entire group and future EVs.

Carmakers with a large UK presence such as Nissan or BMW have repeatedly made it clear that continued frictionless trade with the EU would be a vital consideration in determining if they stay in the country when Brexit happens. Rumours had it more than once that Nissan was to close Sunderland entirely with the company yet having to make an official statement confirming a direction.

While the Ariya won’t be made there, Nissan did confirm the Qashqai for production in Sunderland. The compact SUV will be the first Nissan model in Europe to be equipped with the e-Power hybrid drive but a plug-in hybrid is not planned for the time being as reported. The model will also be the first European Nissan sitting on the CMF-C platform from the Renault-Nissan-Mitsubishi alliance.

Nissan Sunderland’s plant profitability is heavily based on exports to the EU. More than 50% of the cars made there are sold in the rest of Europe, DW writes, underlining why the company is so keen for tariff-free trade to continue.

Nissan’s Chief Operating Officer Ashwani Gupta has said that Brexit-induced tariffs could render the company’s UK business and Sunderland plant unsustainable. The factory is the largest car plant in the UK and produces around 350,000 cars a year."

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By *kstallionMan
over a year ago

milton keynes


"From electrive.com "As the no-deal Brexit is looming large, Nissan decided against assigning the Sunderland plant to make the new Ariya model. All hopes to increase if not secure production in Britain with the new electric car are dashed as the company appears to have changed plans.

When Nissan presented the Ariya this summer, they had still wanted to manufacture the European allocation in the UK. Now it looks like Nissan has decided against strengthening its foothold on the Isles.

Nikkei states the hard Brexit, meaning the UK leaving the European Union with no trade agreement at the end of the month as the reason for the withdrawal.

The company has not confirmed this line of thought. Nissan will, however, produce the Ariya in Japan for export to Europe when the vehicle goes on sale next year and executives said, this had always been an option, according to Autonews.

The same could be said of persisting pressures on UK car manufacturing due to the Brexit situation. A no-deal Brexit will see British car exports face a ten-percent tariff in the EU. It would increase the cost of UK-made electric cars exported to the EU by an average of £2,000 per vehicle, according to a study conducted by SMMT. By comparison, vehicles made in Japan face a lower 7.5 per cent tariff which, in 2026, will be abolished entirely. Japan’s EPA with Britain takes effect next month and will similarly cancel the auto-tariff as the Japan-EU trade deal.

Handling production of Ariya models heading to Europe and the United States will be Nissan’s plant in Japan’s Tochigi Prefecture just north of Tokyo. Meanwhile, Nissan will manufacture those sold in China locally.

The decision is a blow for Sunderland. The plant has been making the Nissan Leaf EV since 2013 and continues to produce the new model-year of the Leaf. The Ariya, however, is the first electric car Nissan designed from the ground-up since introducing the Leaf almost ten years ago. It sits on a new platform that the company considers as laying grounds for the entire group and future EVs.

Carmakers with a large UK presence such as Nissan or BMW have repeatedly made it clear that continued frictionless trade with the EU would be a vital consideration in determining if they stay in the country when Brexit happens. Rumours had it more than once that Nissan was to close Sunderland entirely with the company yet having to make an official statement confirming a direction.

While the Ariya won’t be made there, Nissan did confirm the Qashqai for production in Sunderland. The compact SUV will be the first Nissan model in Europe to be equipped with the e-Power hybrid drive but a plug-in hybrid is not planned for the time being as reported. The model will also be the first European Nissan sitting on the CMF-C platform from the Renault-Nissan-Mitsubishi alliance.

Nissan Sunderland’s plant profitability is heavily based on exports to the EU. More than 50% of the cars made there are sold in the rest of Europe, DW writes, underlining why the company is so keen for tariff-free trade to continue.

Nissan’s Chief Operating Officer Ashwani Gupta has said that Brexit-induced tariffs could render the company’s UK business and Sunderland plant unsustainable. The factory is the largest car plant in the UK and produces around 350,000 cars a year.""

The Ariya was not planned to be built at Sunderland so its not a change. The EU deal with japan now enables Nissan to build it in Japan and export to europe. Barcelona plant could have built this new vehicle but is being closed instead

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By *mmmMaybeCouple
over a year ago

West Wales


"From electrive.com "As the no-deal Brexit is looming large, Nissan decided against assigning the Sunderland plant to make the new Ariya model. All hopes to increase if not secure production in Britain with the new electric car are dashed as the company appears to have changed plans.

When Nissan presented the Ariya this summer, they had still wanted to manufacture the European allocation in the UK. Now it looks like Nissan has decided against strengthening its foothold on the Isles.

Nikkei states the hard Brexit, meaning the UK leaving the European Union with no trade agreement at the end of the month as the reason for the withdrawal.

The company has not confirmed this line of thought. Nissan will, however, produce the Ariya in Japan for export to Europe when the vehicle goes on sale next year and executives said, this had always been an option, according to Autonews.

The same could be said of persisting pressures on UK car manufacturing due to the Brexit situation. A no-deal Brexit will see British car exports face a ten-percent tariff in the EU. It would increase the cost of UK-made electric cars exported to the EU by an average of £2,000 per vehicle, according to a study conducted by SMMT. By comparison, vehicles made in Japan face a lower 7.5 per cent tariff which, in 2026, will be abolished entirely. Japan’s EPA with Britain takes effect next month and will similarly cancel the auto-tariff as the Japan-EU trade deal.

Handling production of Ariya models heading to Europe and the United States will be Nissan’s plant in Japan’s Tochigi Prefecture just north of Tokyo. Meanwhile, Nissan will manufacture those sold in China locally.

The decision is a blow for Sunderland. The plant has been making the Nissan Leaf EV since 2013 and continues to produce the new model-year of the Leaf. The Ariya, however, is the first electric car Nissan designed from the ground-up since introducing the Leaf almost ten years ago. It sits on a new platform that the company considers as laying grounds for the entire group and future EVs.

Carmakers with a large UK presence such as Nissan or BMW have repeatedly made it clear that continued frictionless trade with the EU would be a vital consideration in determining if they stay in the country when Brexit happens. Rumours had it more than once that Nissan was to close Sunderland entirely with the company yet having to make an official statement confirming a direction.

While the Ariya won’t be made there, Nissan did confirm the Qashqai for production in Sunderland. The compact SUV will be the first Nissan model in Europe to be equipped with the e-Power hybrid drive but a plug-in hybrid is not planned for the time being as reported. The model will also be the first European Nissan sitting on the CMF-C platform from the Renault-Nissan-Mitsubishi alliance.

Nissan Sunderland’s plant profitability is heavily based on exports to the EU. More than 50% of the cars made there are sold in the rest of Europe, DW writes, underlining why the company is so keen for tariff-free trade to continue.

Nissan’s Chief Operating Officer Ashwani Gupta has said that Brexit-induced tariffs could render the company’s UK business and Sunderland plant unsustainable. The factory is the largest car plant in the UK and produces around 350,000 cars a year."

The Ariya was not planned to be built at Sunderland so its not a change. The EU deal with japan now enables Nissan to build it in Japan and export to europe. Barcelona plant could have built this new vehicle but is being closed instead"

Boom, So in reality probably less to do with Brexit (or it’d go to Barcelona) & more to do with a collapsing market share & looking after their home workers as they should.

S

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"From electrive.com "As the no-deal Brexit is looming large, Nissan decided against assigning the Sunderland plant to make the new Ariya model. All hopes to increase if not secure production in Britain with the new electric car are dashed as the company appears to have changed plans.

When Nissan presented the Ariya this summer, they had still wanted to manufacture the European allocation in the UK. Now it looks like Nissan has decided against strengthening its foothold on the Isles.

Nikkei states the hard Brexit, meaning the UK leaving the European Union with no trade agreement at the end of the month as the reason for the withdrawal.

The company has not confirmed this line of thought. Nissan will, however, produce the Ariya in Japan for export to Europe when the vehicle goes on sale next year and executives said, this had always been an option, according to Autonews.

The same could be said of persisting pressures on UK car manufacturing due to the Brexit situation. A no-deal Brexit will see British car exports face a ten-percent tariff in the EU. It would increase the cost of UK-made electric cars exported to the EU by an average of £2,000 per vehicle, according to a study conducted by SMMT. By comparison, vehicles made in Japan face a lower 7.5 per cent tariff which, in 2026, will be abolished entirely. Japan’s EPA with Britain takes effect next month and will similarly cancel the auto-tariff as the Japan-EU trade deal.

Handling production of Ariya models heading to Europe and the United States will be Nissan’s plant in Japan’s Tochigi Prefecture just north of Tokyo. Meanwhile, Nissan will manufacture those sold in China locally.

The decision is a blow for Sunderland. The plant has been making the Nissan Leaf EV since 2013 and continues to produce the new model-year of the Leaf. The Ariya, however, is the first electric car Nissan designed from the ground-up since introducing the Leaf almost ten years ago. It sits on a new platform that the company considers as laying grounds for the entire group and future EVs.

Carmakers with a large UK presence such as Nissan or BMW have repeatedly made it clear that continued frictionless trade with the EU would be a vital consideration in determining if they stay in the country when Brexit happens. Rumours had it more than once that Nissan was to close Sunderland entirely with the company yet having to make an official statement confirming a direction.

While the Ariya won’t be made there, Nissan did confirm the Qashqai for production in Sunderland. The compact SUV will be the first Nissan model in Europe to be equipped with the e-Power hybrid drive but a plug-in hybrid is not planned for the time being as reported. The model will also be the first European Nissan sitting on the CMF-C platform from the Renault-Nissan-Mitsubishi alliance.

Nissan Sunderland’s plant profitability is heavily based on exports to the EU. More than 50% of the cars made there are sold in the rest of Europe, DW writes, underlining why the company is so keen for tariff-free trade to continue.

Nissan’s Chief Operating Officer Ashwani Gupta has said that Brexit-induced tariffs could render the company’s UK business and Sunderland plant unsustainable. The factory is the largest car plant in the UK and produces around 350,000 cars a year."

The Ariya was not planned to be built at Sunderland so its not a change. The EU deal with japan now enables Nissan to build it in Japan and export to europe. Barcelona plant could have built this new vehicle but is being closed instead

Boom, So in reality probably less to do with Brexit (or it’d go to Barcelona) & more to do with a collapsing market share & looking after their home workers as they should.

S"

You both seem to have left this part out of your answer: "Nissan’s Chief Operating Officer Ashwani Gupta has said that Brexit-induced tariffs could render the company’s UK business and Sunderland plant unsustainable. The factory is the largest car plant in the UK and produces around 350,000 cars a year.""

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By *oxychick35Couple
over a year ago

thornaby


"From electrive.com "As the no-deal Brexit is looming large, Nissan decided against assigning the Sunderland plant to make the new Ariya model. All hopes to increase if not secure production in Britain with the new electric car are dashed as the company appears to have changed plans.

When Nissan presented the Ariya this summer, they had still wanted to manufacture the European allocation in the UK. Now it looks like Nissan has decided against strengthening its foothold on the Isles.

Nikkei states the hard Brexit, meaning the UK leaving the European Union with no trade agreement at the end of the month as the reason for the withdrawal.

The company has not confirmed this line of thought. Nissan will, however, produce the Ariya in Japan for export to Europe when the vehicle goes on sale next year and executives said, this had always been an option, according to Autonews.

The same could be said of persisting pressures on UK car manufacturing due to the Brexit situation. A no-deal Brexit will see British car exports face a ten-percent tariff in the EU. It would increase the cost of UK-made electric cars exported to the EU by an average of £2,000 per vehicle, according to a study conducted by SMMT. By comparison, vehicles made in Japan face a lower 7.5 per cent tariff which, in 2026, will be abolished entirely. Japan’s EPA with Britain takes effect next month and will similarly cancel the auto-tariff as the Japan-EU trade deal.

Handling production of Ariya models heading to Europe and the United States will be Nissan’s plant in Japan’s Tochigi Prefecture just north of Tokyo. Meanwhile, Nissan will manufacture those sold in China locally.

The decision is a blow for Sunderland. The plant has been making the Nissan Leaf EV since 2013 and continues to produce the new model-year of the Leaf. The Ariya, however, is the first electric car Nissan designed from the ground-up since introducing the Leaf almost ten years ago. It sits on a new platform that the company considers as laying grounds for the entire group and future EVs.

Carmakers with a large UK presence such as Nissan or BMW have repeatedly made it clear that continued frictionless trade with the EU would be a vital consideration in determining if they stay in the country when Brexit happens. Rumours had it more than once that Nissan was to close Sunderland entirely with the company yet having to make an official statement confirming a direction.

While the Ariya won’t be made there, Nissan did confirm the Qashqai for production in Sunderland. The compact SUV will be the first Nissan model in Europe to be equipped with the e-Power hybrid drive but a plug-in hybrid is not planned for the time being as reported. The model will also be the first European Nissan sitting on the CMF-C platform from the Renault-Nissan-Mitsubishi alliance.

Nissan Sunderland’s plant profitability is heavily based on exports to the EU. More than 50% of the cars made there are sold in the rest of Europe, DW writes, underlining why the company is so keen for tariff-free trade to continue.

Nissan’s Chief Operating Officer Ashwani Gupta has said that Brexit-induced tariffs could render the company’s UK business and Sunderland plant unsustainable. The factory is the largest car plant in the UK and produces around 350,000 cars a year."

The Ariya was not planned to be built at Sunderland so its not a change. The EU deal with japan now enables Nissan to build it in Japan and export to europe. Barcelona plant could have built this new vehicle but is being closed instead

Boom, So in reality probably less to do with Brexit (or it’d go to Barcelona) & more to do with a collapsing market share & looking after their home workers as they should.

S

You both seem to have left this part out of your answer: "Nissan’s Chief Operating Officer Ashwani Gupta has said that Brexit-induced tariffs could render the company’s UK business and Sunderland plant unsustainable. The factory is the largest car plant in the UK and produces around 350,000 cars a year."""
the important part was COULD but he’s been saying that for a few yrs now nothing new to see here old news mate

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"From electrive.com "As the no-deal Brexit is looming large, Nissan decided against assigning the Sunderland plant to make the new Ariya model. All hopes to increase if not secure production in Britain with the new electric car are dashed as the company appears to have changed plans.

When Nissan presented the Ariya this summer, they had still wanted to manufacture the European allocation in the UK. Now it looks like Nissan has decided against strengthening its foothold on the Isles.

Nikkei states the hard Brexit, meaning the UK leaving the European Union with no trade agreement at the end of the month as the reason for the withdrawal.

The company has not confirmed this line of thought. Nissan will, however, produce the Ariya in Japan for export to Europe when the vehicle goes on sale next year and executives said, this had always been an option, according to Autonews.

The same could be said of persisting pressures on UK car manufacturing due to the Brexit situation. A no-deal Brexit will see British car exports face a ten-percent tariff in the EU. It would increase the cost of UK-made electric cars exported to the EU by an average of £2,000 per vehicle, according to a study conducted by SMMT. By comparison, vehicles made in Japan face a lower 7.5 per cent tariff which, in 2026, will be abolished entirely. Japan’s EPA with Britain takes effect next month and will similarly cancel the auto-tariff as the Japan-EU trade deal.

Handling production of Ariya models heading to Europe and the United States will be Nissan’s plant in Japan’s Tochigi Prefecture just north of Tokyo. Meanwhile, Nissan will manufacture those sold in China locally.

The decision is a blow for Sunderland. The plant has been making the Nissan Leaf EV since 2013 and continues to produce the new model-year of the Leaf. The Ariya, however, is the first electric car Nissan designed from the ground-up since introducing the Leaf almost ten years ago. It sits on a new platform that the company considers as laying grounds for the entire group and future EVs.

Carmakers with a large UK presence such as Nissan or BMW have repeatedly made it clear that continued frictionless trade with the EU would be a vital consideration in determining if they stay in the country when Brexit happens. Rumours had it more than once that Nissan was to close Sunderland entirely with the company yet having to make an official statement confirming a direction.

While the Ariya won’t be made there, Nissan did confirm the Qashqai for production in Sunderland. The compact SUV will be the first Nissan model in Europe to be equipped with the e-Power hybrid drive but a plug-in hybrid is not planned for the time being as reported. The model will also be the first European Nissan sitting on the CMF-C platform from the Renault-Nissan-Mitsubishi alliance.

Nissan Sunderland’s plant profitability is heavily based on exports to the EU. More than 50% of the cars made there are sold in the rest of Europe, DW writes, underlining why the company is so keen for tariff-free trade to continue.

Nissan’s Chief Operating Officer Ashwani Gupta has said that Brexit-induced tariffs could render the company’s UK business and Sunderland plant unsustainable. The factory is the largest car plant in the UK and produces around 350,000 cars a year."

The Ariya was not planned to be built at Sunderland so its not a change. The EU deal with japan now enables Nissan to build it in Japan and export to europe. Barcelona plant could have built this new vehicle but is being closed instead

Boom, So in reality probably less to do with Brexit (or it’d go to Barcelona) & more to do with a collapsing market share & looking after their home workers as they should.

S

You both seem to have left this part out of your answer: "Nissan’s Chief Operating Officer Ashwani Gupta has said that Brexit-induced tariffs could render the company’s UK business and Sunderland plant unsustainable. The factory is the largest car plant in the UK and produces around 350,000 cars a year.""the important part was COULD but he’s been saying that for a few yrs now nothing new to see here old news mate "

Jesus Christ he we go again and if it happens you'll say, "it would have happened anyway"

Do you accept Brexit is going to make things harder for Nissan in Sunderland or is the article above a lie?

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By *oxychick35Couple
over a year ago

thornaby


"From electrive.com "As the no-deal Brexit is looming large, Nissan decided against assigning the Sunderland plant to make the new Ariya model. All hopes to increase if not secure production in Britain with the new electric car are dashed as the company appears to have changed plans.

When Nissan presented the Ariya this summer, they had still wanted to manufacture the European allocation in the UK. Now it looks like Nissan has decided against strengthening its foothold on the Isles.

Nikkei states the hard Brexit, meaning the UK leaving the European Union with no trade agreement at the end of the month as the reason for the withdrawal.

The company has not confirmed this line of thought. Nissan will, however, produce the Ariya in Japan for export to Europe when the vehicle goes on sale next year and executives said, this had always been an option, according to Autonews.

The same could be said of persisting pressures on UK car manufacturing due to the Brexit situation. A no-deal Brexit will see British car exports face a ten-percent tariff in the EU. It would increase the cost of UK-made electric cars exported to the EU by an average of £2,000 per vehicle, according to a study conducted by SMMT. By comparison, vehicles made in Japan face a lower 7.5 per cent tariff which, in 2026, will be abolished entirely. Japan’s EPA with Britain takes effect next month and will similarly cancel the auto-tariff as the Japan-EU trade deal.

Handling production of Ariya models heading to Europe and the United States will be Nissan’s plant in Japan’s Tochigi Prefecture just north of Tokyo. Meanwhile, Nissan will manufacture those sold in China locally.

The decision is a blow for Sunderland. The plant has been making the Nissan Leaf EV since 2013 and continues to produce the new model-year of the Leaf. The Ariya, however, is the first electric car Nissan designed from the ground-up since introducing the Leaf almost ten years ago. It sits on a new platform that the company considers as laying grounds for the entire group and future EVs.

Carmakers with a large UK presence such as Nissan or BMW have repeatedly made it clear that continued frictionless trade with the EU would be a vital consideration in determining if they stay in the country when Brexit happens. Rumours had it more than once that Nissan was to close Sunderland entirely with the company yet having to make an official statement confirming a direction.

While the Ariya won’t be made there, Nissan did confirm the Qashqai for production in Sunderland. The compact SUV will be the first Nissan model in Europe to be equipped with the e-Power hybrid drive but a plug-in hybrid is not planned for the time being as reported. The model will also be the first European Nissan sitting on the CMF-C platform from the Renault-Nissan-Mitsubishi alliance.

Nissan Sunderland’s plant profitability is heavily based on exports to the EU. More than 50% of the cars made there are sold in the rest of Europe, DW writes, underlining why the company is so keen for tariff-free trade to continue.

Nissan’s Chief Operating Officer Ashwani Gupta has said that Brexit-induced tariffs could render the company’s UK business and Sunderland plant unsustainable. The factory is the largest car plant in the UK and produces around 350,000 cars a year."

The Ariya was not planned to be built at Sunderland so its not a change. The EU deal with japan now enables Nissan to build it in Japan and export to europe. Barcelona plant could have built this new vehicle but is being closed instead

Boom, So in reality probably less to do with Brexit (or it’d go to Barcelona) & more to do with a collapsing market share & looking after their home workers as they should.

S

You both seem to have left this part out of your answer: "Nissan’s Chief Operating Officer Ashwani Gupta has said that Brexit-induced tariffs could render the company’s UK business and Sunderland plant unsustainable. The factory is the largest car plant in the UK and produces around 350,000 cars a year.""the important part was COULD but he’s been saying that for a few yrs now nothing new to see here old news mate

Jesus Christ he we go again and if it happens you'll say, "it would have happened anyway"

Do you accept Brexit is going to make things harder for Nissan in Sunderland or is the article above a lie?"
why did they close there barcelona plant then ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"From electrive.com "As the no-deal Brexit is looming large, Nissan decided against assigning the Sunderland plant to make the new Ariya model. All hopes to increase if not secure production in Britain with the new electric car are dashed as the company appears to have changed plans.

When Nissan presented the Ariya this summer, they had still wanted to manufacture the European allocation in the UK. Now it looks like Nissan has decided against strengthening its foothold on the Isles.

Nikkei states the hard Brexit, meaning the UK leaving the European Union with no trade agreement at the end of the month as the reason for the withdrawal.

The company has not confirmed this line of thought. Nissan will, however, produce the Ariya in Japan for export to Europe when the vehicle goes on sale next year and executives said, this had always been an option, according to Autonews.

The same could be said of persisting pressures on UK car manufacturing due to the Brexit situation. A no-deal Brexit will see British car exports face a ten-percent tariff in the EU. It would increase the cost of UK-made electric cars exported to the EU by an average of £2,000 per vehicle, according to a study conducted by SMMT. By comparison, vehicles made in Japan face a lower 7.5 per cent tariff which, in 2026, will be abolished entirely. Japan’s EPA with Britain takes effect next month and will similarly cancel the auto-tariff as the Japan-EU trade deal.

Handling production of Ariya models heading to Europe and the United States will be Nissan’s plant in Japan’s Tochigi Prefecture just north of Tokyo. Meanwhile, Nissan will manufacture those sold in China locally.

The decision is a blow for Sunderland. The plant has been making the Nissan Leaf EV since 2013 and continues to produce the new model-year of the Leaf. The Ariya, however, is the first electric car Nissan designed from the ground-up since introducing the Leaf almost ten years ago. It sits on a new platform that the company considers as laying grounds for the entire group and future EVs.

Carmakers with a large UK presence such as Nissan or BMW have repeatedly made it clear that continued frictionless trade with the EU would be a vital consideration in determining if they stay in the country when Brexit happens. Rumours had it more than once that Nissan was to close Sunderland entirely with the company yet having to make an official statement confirming a direction.

While the Ariya won’t be made there, Nissan did confirm the Qashqai for production in Sunderland. The compact SUV will be the first Nissan model in Europe to be equipped with the e-Power hybrid drive but a plug-in hybrid is not planned for the time being as reported. The model will also be the first European Nissan sitting on the CMF-C platform from the Renault-Nissan-Mitsubishi alliance.

Nissan Sunderland’s plant profitability is heavily based on exports to the EU. More than 50% of the cars made there are sold in the rest of Europe, DW writes, underlining why the company is so keen for tariff-free trade to continue.

Nissan’s Chief Operating Officer Ashwani Gupta has said that Brexit-induced tariffs could render the company’s UK business and Sunderland plant unsustainable. The factory is the largest car plant in the UK and produces around 350,000 cars a year."

The Ariya was not planned to be built at Sunderland so its not a change. The EU deal with japan now enables Nissan to build it in Japan and export to europe. Barcelona plant could have built this new vehicle but is being closed instead

Boom, So in reality probably less to do with Brexit (or it’d go to Barcelona) & more to do with a collapsing market share & looking after their home workers as they should.

S

You both seem to have left this part out of your answer: "Nissan’s Chief Operating Officer Ashwani Gupta has said that Brexit-induced tariffs could render the company’s UK business and Sunderland plant unsustainable. The factory is the largest car plant in the UK and produces around 350,000 cars a year.""the important part was COULD but he’s been saying that for a few yrs now nothing new to see here old news mate

Jesus Christ he we go again and if it happens you'll say, "it would have happened anyway"

Do you accept Brexit is going to make things harder for Nissan in Sunderland or is the article above a lie? why did they close there barcelona plant then ?"

It was less efficient, Answer the question about the Sunderland plan.

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By *oxychick35Couple
over a year ago

thornaby


"From electrive.com "As the no-deal Brexit is looming large, Nissan decided against assigning the Sunderland plant to make the new Ariya model. All hopes to increase if not secure production in Britain with the new electric car are dashed as the company appears to have changed plans.

When Nissan presented the Ariya this summer, they had still wanted to manufacture the European allocation in the UK. Now it looks like Nissan has decided against strengthening its foothold on the Isles.

Nikkei states the hard Brexit, meaning the UK leaving the European Union with no trade agreement at the end of the month as the reason for the withdrawal.

The company has not confirmed this line of thought. Nissan will, however, produce the Ariya in Japan for export to Europe when the vehicle goes on sale next year and executives said, this had always been an option, according to Autonews.

The same could be said of persisting pressures on UK car manufacturing due to the Brexit situation. A no-deal Brexit will see British car exports face a ten-percent tariff in the EU. It would increase the cost of UK-made electric cars exported to the EU by an average of £2,000 per vehicle, according to a study conducted by SMMT. By comparison, vehicles made in Japan face a lower 7.5 per cent tariff which, in 2026, will be abolished entirely. Japan’s EPA with Britain takes effect next month and will similarly cancel the auto-tariff as the Japan-EU trade deal.

Handling production of Ariya models heading to Europe and the United States will be Nissan’s plant in Japan’s Tochigi Prefecture just north of Tokyo. Meanwhile, Nissan will manufacture those sold in China locally.

The decision is a blow for Sunderland. The plant has been making the Nissan Leaf EV since 2013 and continues to produce the new model-year of the Leaf. The Ariya, however, is the first electric car Nissan designed from the ground-up since introducing the Leaf almost ten years ago. It sits on a new platform that the company considers as laying grounds for the entire group and future EVs.

Carmakers with a large UK presence such as Nissan or BMW have repeatedly made it clear that continued frictionless trade with the EU would be a vital consideration in determining if they stay in the country when Brexit happens. Rumours had it more than once that Nissan was to close Sunderland entirely with the company yet having to make an official statement confirming a direction.

While the Ariya won’t be made there, Nissan did confirm the Qashqai for production in Sunderland. The compact SUV will be the first Nissan model in Europe to be equipped with the e-Power hybrid drive but a plug-in hybrid is not planned for the time being as reported. The model will also be the first European Nissan sitting on the CMF-C platform from the Renault-Nissan-Mitsubishi alliance.

Nissan Sunderland’s plant profitability is heavily based on exports to the EU. More than 50% of the cars made there are sold in the rest of Europe, DW writes, underlining why the company is so keen for tariff-free trade to continue.

Nissan’s Chief Operating Officer Ashwani Gupta has said that Brexit-induced tariffs could render the company’s UK business and Sunderland plant unsustainable. The factory is the largest car plant in the UK and produces around 350,000 cars a year."

The Ariya was not planned to be built at Sunderland so its not a change. The EU deal with japan now enables Nissan to build it in Japan and export to europe. Barcelona plant could have built this new vehicle but is being closed instead

Boom, So in reality probably less to do with Brexit (or it’d go to Barcelona) & more to do with a collapsing market share & looking after their home workers as they should.

S

You both seem to have left this part out of your answer: "Nissan’s Chief Operating Officer Ashwani Gupta has said that Brexit-induced tariffs could render the company’s UK business and Sunderland plant unsustainable. The factory is the largest car plant in the UK and produces around 350,000 cars a year.""the important part was COULD but he’s been saying that for a few yrs now nothing new to see here old news mate

Jesus Christ he we go again and if it happens you'll say, "it would have happened anyway"

Do you accept Brexit is going to make things harder for Nissan in Sunderland or is the article above a lie? why did they close there barcelona plant then ?

It was less efficient, Answer the question about the Sunderland plan.

"
lmfao ok boss if you say so I’ll answer I think it will depend on the deal they must have some faith or they would of kept there plant open in Spain don’t ya think

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By *kstallionMan
over a year ago

milton keynes


"From electrive.com "As the no-deal Brexit is looming large, Nissan decided against assigning the Sunderland plant to make the new Ariya model. All hopes to increase if not secure production in Britain with the new electric car are dashed as the company appears to have changed plans.

When Nissan presented the Ariya this summer, they had still wanted to manufacture the European allocation in the UK. Now it looks like Nissan has decided against strengthening its foothold on the Isles.

Nikkei states the hard Brexit, meaning the UK leaving the European Union with no trade agreement at the end of the month as the reason for the withdrawal.

The company has not confirmed this line of thought. Nissan will, however, produce the Ariya in Japan for export to Europe when the vehicle goes on sale next year and executives said, this had always been an option, according to Autonews.

The same could be said of persisting pressures on UK car manufacturing due to the Brexit situation. A no-deal Brexit will see British car exports face a ten-percent tariff in the EU. It would increase the cost of UK-made electric cars exported to the EU by an average of £2,000 per vehicle, according to a study conducted by SMMT. By comparison, vehicles made in Japan face a lower 7.5 per cent tariff which, in 2026, will be abolished entirely. Japan’s EPA with Britain takes effect next month and will similarly cancel the auto-tariff as the Japan-EU trade deal.

Handling production of Ariya models heading to Europe and the United States will be Nissan’s plant in Japan’s Tochigi Prefecture just north of Tokyo. Meanwhile, Nissan will manufacture those sold in China locally.

The decision is a blow for Sunderland. The plant has been making the Nissan Leaf EV since 2013 and continues to produce the new model-year of the Leaf. The Ariya, however, is the first electric car Nissan designed from the ground-up since introducing the Leaf almost ten years ago. It sits on a new platform that the company considers as laying grounds for the entire group and future EVs.

Carmakers with a large UK presence such as Nissan or BMW have repeatedly made it clear that continued frictionless trade with the EU would be a vital consideration in determining if they stay in the country when Brexit happens. Rumours had it more than once that Nissan was to close Sunderland entirely with the company yet having to make an official statement confirming a direction.

While the Ariya won’t be made there, Nissan did confirm the Qashqai for production in Sunderland. The compact SUV will be the first Nissan model in Europe to be equipped with the e-Power hybrid drive but a plug-in hybrid is not planned for the time being as reported. The model will also be the first European Nissan sitting on the CMF-C platform from the Renault-Nissan-Mitsubishi alliance.

Nissan Sunderland’s plant profitability is heavily based on exports to the EU. More than 50% of the cars made there are sold in the rest of Europe, DW writes, underlining why the company is so keen for tariff-free trade to continue.

Nissan’s Chief Operating Officer Ashwani Gupta has said that Brexit-induced tariffs could render the company’s UK business and Sunderland plant unsustainable. The factory is the largest car plant in the UK and produces around 350,000 cars a year."

The Ariya was not planned to be built at Sunderland so its not a change. The EU deal with japan now enables Nissan to build it in Japan and export to europe. Barcelona plant could have built this new vehicle but is being closed instead

Boom, So in reality probably less to do with Brexit (or it’d go to Barcelona) & more to do with a collapsing market share & looking after their home workers as they should.

S

You both seem to have left this part out of your answer: "Nissan’s Chief Operating Officer Ashwani Gupta has said that Brexit-induced tariffs could render the company’s UK business and Sunderland plant unsustainable. The factory is the largest car plant in the UK and produces around 350,000 cars a year.""the important part was COULD but he’s been saying that for a few yrs now nothing new to see here old news mate

Jesus Christ he we go again and if it happens you'll say, "it would have happened anyway"

Do you accept Brexit is going to make things harder for Nissan in Sunderland or is the article above a lie? why did they close there barcelona plant then ?"

Barcelona was closed because they were running at a fraction of their actual capacity due to poor sales of the vehicles they built. They are a highly skilled workforce and great fun. The obvious option would have been to move the Qashqai and Juke to barcelona at least. These are Nissans top selling cars and they rely on them to survive. They choose to keep these at sunderland and close barca instead

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By *mmmMaybeCouple
over a year ago

West Wales


"From electrive.com "As the no-deal Brexit is looming large, Nissan decided against assigning the Sunderland plant to make the new Ariya model. All hopes to increase if not secure production in Britain with the new electric car are dashed as the company appears to have changed plans.

When Nissan presented the Ariya this summer, they had still wanted to manufacture the European allocation in the UK. Now it looks like Nissan has decided against strengthening its foothold on the Isles.

Nikkei states the hard Brexit, meaning the UK leaving the European Union with no trade agreement at the end of the month as the reason for the withdrawal.

THE COMPANY HAS NOT CONFIRMED THIS LINE OF THOUGHT. Nissan will, however, produce the Ariya in Japan for export to Europe when the vehicle goes on sale next year and executives said, this had always been an option, according to Autonews.

The same could be said of persisting pressures on UK car manufacturing due to the Brexit situation. A no-deal Brexit will see British car exports face a ten-percent tariff in the EU. It would increase the cost of UK-made electric cars exported to the EU by an average of £2,000 per vehicle, according to a study conducted by SMMT. By comparison, vehicles made in Japan face a lower 7.5 per cent tariff which, in 2026, will be abolished entirely. Japan’s EPA with Britain takes effect next month and will similarly cancel the auto-tariff as the Japan-EU trade deal.

Handling production of Ariya models heading to Europe and the United States will be Nissan’s plant in Japan’s Tochigi Prefecture just north of Tokyo. Meanwhile, Nissan will manufacture those sold in China locally.

The decision is a blow for Sunderland. The plant has been making the Nissan Leaf EV since 2013 and continues to produce the new model-year of the Leaf. The Ariya, however, is the first electric car Nissan designed from the ground-up since introducing the Leaf almost ten years ago. It sits on a new platform that the company considers as laying grounds for the entire group and future EVs.

Carmakers with a large UK presence such as Nissan or BMW have repeatedly made it clear that continued frictionless trade with the EU would be a vital consideration in determining if they stay in the country when Brexit happens. Rumours had it more than once that Nissan was to close Sunderland entirely with the company yet having to make an official statement confirming a direction.

While the Ariya won’t be made there, Nissan did confirm the Qashqai for production in Sunderland. The compact SUV will be the first Nissan model in Europe to be equipped with the e-Power hybrid drive but a plug-in hybrid is not planned for the time being as reported. The model will also be the first European Nissan sitting on the CMF-C platform from the Renault-Nissan-Mitsubishi alliance.

Nissan Sunderland’s plant profitability is heavily based on exports to the EU. More than 50% of the cars made there are sold in the rest of Europe, DW writes, underlining why the company is so keen for tariff-free trade to continue.

Nissan’s Chief Operating Officer Ashwani Gupta has said that Brexit-induced tariffs could render the company’s UK business and Sunderland plant unsustainable. The factory is the largest car plant in the UK and produces around 350,000 cars a year."

The Ariya was not planned to be built at Sunderland so its not a change. The EU deal with japan now enables Nissan to build it in Japan and export to europe. Barcelona plant could have built this new vehicle but is being closed instead

Boom, So in reality probably less to do with Brexit (or it’d go to Barcelona) & more to do with a collapsing market share & looking after their home workers as they should.

S

You both seem to have left this part out of your answer: "Nissan’s Chief Operating Officer Ashwani Gupta has said that Brexit-induced tariffs could render the company’s UK business and Sunderland plant unsustainable. The factory is the largest car plant in the UK and produces around 350,000 cars a year.""the important part was COULD but he’s been saying that for a few yrs now nothing new to see here old news mate

Jesus Christ he we go again and if it happens you'll say, "it would have happened anyway"

Do you accept Brexit COULD make things harder for Nissan in Sunderland or is the article above a lie?"

I changed your wording to fit in with the narrative above & based on the narrative above I accept that it COULD which is what the man from Nissan said, You changed it to WILL why???

I also accept that this is all coulda woulda shoulda. Nothing is set in stone, nothing in life is guaranteed.

Also if you believe every word from a politicians mouth or for that matter take every word from a businesses corporate narrative as gospel & honest then you're an idiot.

What I do believe though is that in a decimated car market in which Nissan is struggling to hold market share they will & as can be seen here already have with pulling the rug from Barcelona & moved production to Japan Ensured home jobs, which as I said is what they & any other company should do.

What I also expect though is that for the foreseeable future ANY multinational pulling the plug for ANY reason will cite Brexit as a major reason even if it's not.

It's given every multinational with operations in the UK in effect a get out of jail free card, add CV19 loses & boom the shits due to hit the fan.

BUT, What are you going to do IF BJ gets a last minute deal, & all his bluster & Mexican standoff was correct the EU were trying to play hardball.

What will you say then when these multinationals STILL shut up shop blaming Brexit, despite maybe very little changing in their business?

Will you call them out as fcking liars or will you just stick with your same narrative as now?

"It's all Brexit's fault innit".

S

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By *oxychick35Couple
over a year ago

thornaby


"From electrive.com "As the no-deal Brexit is looming large, Nissan decided against assigning the Sunderland plant to make the new Ariya model. All hopes to increase if not secure production in Britain with the new electric car are dashed as the company appears to have changed plans.

When Nissan presented the Ariya this summer, they had still wanted to manufacture the European allocation in the UK. Now it looks like Nissan has decided against strengthening its foothold on the Isles.

Nikkei states the hard Brexit, meaning the UK leaving the European Union with no trade agreement at the end of the month as the reason for the withdrawal.

THE COMPANY HAS NOT CONFIRMED THIS LINE OF THOUGHT. Nissan will, however, produce the Ariya in Japan for export to Europe when the vehicle goes on sale next year and executives said, this had always been an option, according to Autonews.

The same could be said of persisting pressures on UK car manufacturing due to the Brexit situation. A no-deal Brexit will see British car exports face a ten-percent tariff in the EU. It would increase the cost of UK-made electric cars exported to the EU by an average of £2,000 per vehicle, according to a study conducted by SMMT. By comparison, vehicles made in Japan face a lower 7.5 per cent tariff which, in 2026, will be abolished entirely. Japan’s EPA with Britain takes effect next month and will similarly cancel the auto-tariff as the Japan-EU trade deal.

Handling production of Ariya models heading to Europe and the United States will be Nissan’s plant in Japan’s Tochigi Prefecture just north of Tokyo. Meanwhile, Nissan will manufacture those sold in China locally.

The decision is a blow for Sunderland. The plant has been making the Nissan Leaf EV since 2013 and continues to produce the new model-year of the Leaf. The Ariya, however, is the first electric car Nissan designed from the ground-up since introducing the Leaf almost ten years ago. It sits on a new platform that the company considers as laying grounds for the entire group and future EVs.

Carmakers with a large UK presence such as Nissan or BMW have repeatedly made it clear that continued frictionless trade with the EU would be a vital consideration in determining if they stay in the country when Brexit happens. Rumours had it more than once that Nissan was to close Sunderland entirely with the company yet having to make an official statement confirming a direction.

While the Ariya won’t be made there, Nissan did confirm the Qashqai for production in Sunderland. The compact SUV will be the first Nissan model in Europe to be equipped with the e-Power hybrid drive but a plug-in hybrid is not planned for the time being as reported. The model will also be the first European Nissan sitting on the CMF-C platform from the Renault-Nissan-Mitsubishi alliance.

Nissan Sunderland’s plant profitability is heavily based on exports to the EU. More than 50% of the cars made there are sold in the rest of Europe, DW writes, underlining why the company is so keen for tariff-free trade to continue.

Nissan’s Chief Operating Officer Ashwani Gupta has said that Brexit-induced tariffs could render the company’s UK business and Sunderland plant unsustainable. The factory is the largest car plant in the UK and produces around 350,000 cars a year."

The Ariya was not planned to be built at Sunderland so its not a change. The EU deal with japan now enables Nissan to build it in Japan and export to europe. Barcelona plant could have built this new vehicle but is being closed instead

Boom, So in reality probably less to do with Brexit (or it’d go to Barcelona) & more to do with a collapsing market share & looking after their home workers as they should.

S

You both seem to have left this part out of your answer: "Nissan’s Chief Operating Officer Ashwani Gupta has said that Brexit-induced tariffs could render the company’s UK business and Sunderland plant unsustainable. The factory is the largest car plant in the UK and produces around 350,000 cars a year.""the important part was COULD but he’s been saying that for a few yrs now nothing new to see here old news mate

Jesus Christ he we go again and if it happens you'll say, "it would have happened anyway"

Do you accept Brexit COULD make things harder for Nissan in Sunderland or is the article above a lie?

I changed your wording to fit in with the narrative above & based on the narrative above I accept that it COULD which is what the man from Nissan said, You changed it to WILL why???

I also accept that this is all coulda woulda shoulda. Nothing is set in stone, nothing in life is guaranteed.

Also if you believe every word from a politicians mouth or for that matter take every word from a businesses corporate narrative as gospel & honest then you're an idiot.

What I do believe though is that in a decimated car market in which Nissan is struggling to hold market share they will & as can be seen here already have with pulling the rug from Barcelona & moved production to Japan Ensured home jobs, which as I said is what they & any other company should do.

What I also expect though is that for the foreseeable future ANY multinational pulling the plug for ANY reason will cite Brexit as a major reason even if it's not.

It's given every multinational with operations in the UK in effect a get out of jail free card, add CV19 loses & boom the shits due to hit the fan.

BUT, What are you going to do IF BJ gets a last minute deal, & all his bluster & Mexican standoff was correct the EU were trying to play hardball.

What will you say then when these multinationals STILL shut up shop blaming Brexit, despite maybe very little changing in their business?

Will you call them out as fcking liars or will you just stick with your same narrative as now?

"It's all Brexit's fault innit".

S"
I’ll go first I’ll bet my house they say it’s brexits fault lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"From electrive.com "As the no-deal Brexit is looming large, Nissan decided against assigning the Sunderland plant to make the new Ariya model. All hopes to increase if not secure production in Britain with the new electric car are dashed as the company appears to have changed plans.

When Nissan presented the Ariya this summer, they had still wanted to manufacture the European allocation in the UK. Now it looks like Nissan has decided against strengthening its foothold on the Isles.

Nikkei states the hard Brexit, meaning the UK leaving the European Union with no trade agreement at the end of the month as the reason for the withdrawal.

THE COMPANY HAS NOT CONFIRMED THIS LINE OF THOUGHT. Nissan will, however, produce the Ariya in Japan for export to Europe when the vehicle goes on sale next year and executives said, this had always been an option, according to Autonews.

The same could be said of persisting pressures on UK car manufacturing due to the Brexit situation. A no-deal Brexit will see British car exports face a ten-percent tariff in the EU. It would increase the cost of UK-made electric cars exported to the EU by an average of £2,000 per vehicle, according to a study conducted by SMMT. By comparison, vehicles made in Japan face a lower 7.5 per cent tariff which, in 2026, will be abolished entirely. Japan’s EPA with Britain takes effect next month and will similarly cancel the auto-tariff as the Japan-EU trade deal.

Handling production of Ariya models heading to Europe and the United States will be Nissan’s plant in Japan’s Tochigi Prefecture just north of Tokyo. Meanwhile, Nissan will manufacture those sold in China locally.

The decision is a blow for Sunderland. The plant has been making the Nissan Leaf EV since 2013 and continues to produce the new model-year of the Leaf. The Ariya, however, is the first electric car Nissan designed from the ground-up since introducing the Leaf almost ten years ago. It sits on a new platform that the company considers as laying grounds for the entire group and future EVs.

Carmakers with a large UK presence such as Nissan or BMW have repeatedly made it clear that continued frictionless trade with the EU would be a vital consideration in determining if they stay in the country when Brexit happens. Rumours had it more than once that Nissan was to close Sunderland entirely with the company yet having to make an official statement confirming a direction.

While the Ariya won’t be made there, Nissan did confirm the Qashqai for production in Sunderland. The compact SUV will be the first Nissan model in Europe to be equipped with the e-Power hybrid drive but a plug-in hybrid is not planned for the time being as reported. The model will also be the first European Nissan sitting on the CMF-C platform from the Renault-Nissan-Mitsubishi alliance.

Nissan Sunderland’s plant profitability is heavily based on exports to the EU. More than 50% of the cars made there are sold in the rest of Europe, DW writes, underlining why the company is so keen for tariff-free trade to continue.

Nissan’s Chief Operating Officer Ashwani Gupta has said that Brexit-induced tariffs could render the company’s UK business and Sunderland plant unsustainable. The factory is the largest car plant in the UK and produces around 350,000 cars a year."

The Ariya was not planned to be built at Sunderland so its not a change. The EU deal with japan now enables Nissan to build it in Japan and export to europe. Barcelona plant could have built this new vehicle but is being closed instead

Boom, So in reality probably less to do with Brexit (or it’d go to Barcelona) & more to do with a collapsing market share & looking after their home workers as they should.

S

You both seem to have left this part out of your answer: "Nissan’s Chief Operating Officer Ashwani Gupta has said that Brexit-induced tariffs could render the company’s UK business and Sunderland plant unsustainable. The factory is the largest car plant in the UK and produces around 350,000 cars a year.""the important part was COULD but he’s been saying that for a few yrs now nothing new to see here old news mate

Jesus Christ he we go again and if it happens you'll say, "it would have happened anyway"

Do you accept Brexit COULD make things harder for Nissan in Sunderland or is the article above a lie?

I changed your wording to fit in with the narrative above & based on the narrative above I accept that it COULD which is what the man from Nissan said, You changed it to WILL why???

I also accept that this is all coulda woulda shoulda. Nothing is set in stone, nothing in life is guaranteed.

Also if you believe every word from a politicians mouth or for that matter take every word from a businesses corporate narrative as gospel & honest then you're an idiot.

What I do believe though is that in a decimated car market in which Nissan is struggling to hold market share they will & as can be seen here already have with pulling the rug from Barcelona & moved production to Japan Ensured home jobs, which as I said is what they & any other company should do.

What I also expect though is that for the foreseeable future ANY multinational pulling the plug for ANY reason will cite Brexit as a major reason even if it's not.

It's given every multinational with operations in the UK in effect a get out of jail free card, add CV19 loses & boom the shits due to hit the fan.

BUT, What are you going to do IF BJ gets a last minute deal, & all his bluster & Mexican standoff was correct the EU were trying to play hardball.

What will you say then when these multinationals STILL shut up shop blaming Brexit, despite maybe very little changing in their business?

Will you call them out as fcking liars or will you just stick with your same narrative as now?

"It's all Brexit's fault innit".

SI’ll go first I’ll bet my house they say it’s brexits fault lol"

I bet he wishes he'd never reopened this thread though

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By *obka3Couple
over a year ago

bournemouth

The car industry is in meltdown, capacity is far too high for demand, brexit has nothing to do with it.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Out of curiosity, what happened to Carlos Ghosn, that anti Brexit Nissan bloke?

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By *ercuryMan
over a year ago

Grantham


"Out of curiosity, what happened to Carlos Ghosn, that anti Brexit Nissan bloke? "

Hiding in Lebanon, keeping one eye open.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Out of curiosity, what happened to Carlos Ghosn, that anti Brexit Nissan bloke?

Hiding in Lebanon, keeping one eye open. "

Surprised he's not an EU president by now

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By *heBirminghamWeekend OP   Man
over a year ago

here

Update - Nissan's chief operating officer Ashwani Gupta:

"The Brexit deal is positive for Nissan. Being the largest automaker in the UK we are taking this opportunity to redefine auto-making in the UK. It has created a competitive environment for Sunderland, not just inside the UK but outside as well.”

"We've decided to localise the manufacture of the 62KW battery in Sunderland so that all our products qualify [for tariff-free export to the EU]. We are committed to Sunderland for the long term under the business conditions that have been agreed."

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By *obka3Couple
over a year ago

bournemouth

Good news indeed.

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By *ercuryMan
over a year ago

Grantham

I'm starting on another automation project for a Nissan sub-contractor next month.

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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago

near ipswich

Dont say that you can only post bad news on here.

Another good news story is that Bombardier has finally agreed the $ 4.5 billion contract to build and run 2 monorail lines in Egypt as they have now secured the money but don't spread it about as some might have a melt down.

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By *ethnmelvCouple
over a year ago

Cardiff


"Dont say that you can only post bad news on here.

Another good news story is that Bombardier has finally agreed the $ 4.5 billion contract to build and run 2 monorail lines in Egypt as they have now secured the money but don't spread it about as some might have a melt down. "

That deal was agreed in August 2019, why mention it now? Any new news? & how much is going to NI?

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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago

near ipswich


"Dont say that you can only post bad news on here.

Another good news story is that Bombardier has finally agreed the $ 4.5 billion contract to build and run 2 monorail lines in Egypt as they have now secured the money but don't spread it about as some might have a melt down.

That deal was agreed in August 2019, why mention it now? Any new news? & how much is going to NI?"
Because Eygypt didnt have the finance it was announced yesterday they now do.

Nothings done until the money is there.

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