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"So I tried this once before - but we now have a bunch of new Fabsters, so let's try it again. Being a swinger and pursuing sex with married couples and/or other singles outside of marriage must, by default either make you a tolerant, open-minded liberal or it must make you a hypocrite. We are all liberals." I have noticed the less liberal and tolerant a person seems on the forums the less success (defined by actually meeting people) they have on the site in general .  | |||
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"I hope in this and most respects I’m a liberal. I lack tolerance of certain characteristics in people though. What about those who cheat where do they fit into the liberal/hypocritical spectrum? " You can be both liberal and a hypocrite. I am.  | |||
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"So I tried this once before - but we now have a bunch of new Fabsters, so let's try it again. Being a swinger and pursuing sex with married couples and/or other singles outside of marriage must, by default either make you a tolerant, open-minded liberal or it must make you a hypocrite. We are all liberals. I have noticed the less liberal and tolerant a person seems on the forums the less success (defined by actually meeting people) they have on the site in general . "So what am I doing wrong? It can't be that I'm not liberal enough, I'm a LibDem FFS.  | |||
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"So I tried this once before - but we now have a bunch of new Fabsters, so let's try it again. Being a swinger and pursuing sex with married couples and/or other singles outside of marriage must, by default either make you a tolerant, open-minded liberal or it must make you a hypocrite. We are all liberals. I have noticed the less liberal and tolerant a person seems on the forums the less success (defined by actually meeting people) they have on the site in general .
So what am I doing wrong? It can't be that I'm not liberal enough, I'm a LibDem FFS. "You have numerous verifications, you aren’t doing anything wrong. It is those who seem less tolerant and right wing that are ‘struggling ‘ | |||
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" The Daily Mails types on here don't seem to have the transphobic, homophobic attitude that usually goes with the xenophobia." Where on earth do you get that idea from? Scratch the surface of some of these Tommy Robinson fanboys and Knights Templar Disciples on here and the stench is nauseating. | |||
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"By liberal, do you mean the dictionary definition “willing to accept behaviour or opinions different from ones own; open to new ides” As we can read already in this thread, many people don’t accept alternative views and are therefore anti-liberal. Classifying “Daily Mail readers” as hateful people is in its self not liberal minded. We should respect all views. Although we need not agree with the,." Do you respect ‘all’ views??  | |||
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"Ah the intolerance of the tolerant or more commonly the I'm right and you're wrong and because I'm right you must be a bigot because you dont accept my view is right" I'm comfortable being intolerant of bigots. | |||
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" The Daily Mails types on here don't seem to have the transphobic, homophobic attitude that usually goes with the xenophobia. Where on earth do you get that idea from? Scratch the surface of some of these Tommy Robinson fanboys and Knights Templar Disciples on here and the stench is nauseating." For sure. But it's not at the forefront. | |||
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"Ah the intolerance of the tolerant or more commonly the I'm right and you're wrong and because I'm right you must be a bigot because you dont accept my view is right I'm comfortable being intolerant of bigots."  | |||
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"Ah the intolerance of the tolerant or more commonly the I'm right and you're wrong and because I'm right you must be a bigot because you dont accept my view is right I'm comfortable being intolerant of bigots." Which makes you a bigot and certainly not liberal | |||
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"Ah the intolerance of the tolerant or more commonly the I'm right and you're wrong and because I'm right you must be a bigot because you dont accept my view is right I'm comfortable being intolerant of bigots. Which makes you a bigot and certainly not liberal" No it doesn't. Get a grip. Being 'liberal' does not mean accepting of anything and everything. | |||
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"Ah the intolerance of the tolerant or more commonly the I'm right and you're wrong and because I'm right you must be a bigot because you dont accept my view is right I'm comfortable being intolerant of bigots. Which makes you a bigot and certainly not liberal No it doesn't. Get a grip. Being 'liberal' does not mean accepting of anything and everything. " Exactly, I can’t believe anyone would think otherwise | |||
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"Ah the intolerance of the tolerant or more commonly the I'm right and you're wrong and because I'm right you must be a bigot because you dont accept my view is right I'm comfortable being intolerant of bigots. Which makes you a bigot and certainly not liberal No it doesn't. Get a grip. Being 'liberal' does not mean accepting of anything and everything. " Yet again your reply shows you dont accept others opinion, so the proves you're a bigot who is to say who is right? It doesn't matter who is right but what's does matter is that you accept others have a different opinion to you and have a right to have it. You may be right I may be right the difference is only one of us thinks that, you dont accept that opinion therefore you are a bigot | |||
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"Ah the intolerance of the tolerant or more commonly the I'm right and you're wrong and because I'm right you must be a bigot because you dont accept my view is right I'm comfortable being intolerant of bigots. Which makes you a bigot and certainly not liberal No it doesn't. Get a grip. Being 'liberal' does not mean accepting of anything and everything. Yet again your reply shows you dont accept others opinion, so the proves you're a bigot who is to say who is right? It doesn't matter who is right but what's does matter is that you accept others have a different opinion to you and have a right to have it. You may be right I may be right the difference is only one of us thinks that, you dont accept that opinion therefore you are a bigot" Can you accept that certain opinions are inherently wrong? If I cannot accept the opinions of a racist or a peadophile does that make me a bigot | |||
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"Ah the intolerance of the tolerant or more commonly the I'm right and you're wrong and because I'm right you must be a bigot because you dont accept my view is right I'm comfortable being intolerant of bigots. Which makes you a bigot and certainly not liberal No it doesn't. Get a grip. Being 'liberal' does not mean accepting of anything and everything. Yet again your reply shows you dont accept others opinion, so the proves you're a bigot who is to say who is right? It doesn't matter who is right but what's does matter is that you accept others have a different opinion to you and have a right to have it. You may be right I may be right the difference is only one of us thinks that, you dont accept that opinion therefore you are a bigot Can you accept that certain opinions are inherently wrong? If I cannot accept the opinions of a racist or a peadophile does that make me a bigot " Of course "most" people agree that certain things are wrong, but that isnt really the point, many who claim they are liberal and tolerant are the exact opposite. The "get a grip" response from one post in this thread just shows the dismissive attitude to different opinions. We all at things from different perspectives and it can be hard to see it from someone else's, but accepting they have a right to it is very important | |||
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"Ah the intolerance of the tolerant or more commonly the I'm right and you're wrong and because I'm right you must be a bigot because you dont accept my view is right I'm comfortable being intolerant of bigots. Which makes you a bigot and certainly not liberal" I don't care about the label "liberal". So feel free to, or not to label me one. But suggesting that I am a bigot for not tolerating bigotry is just silly and nonsensical. | |||
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"So I tried this once before - but we now have a bunch of new Fabsters, so let's try it again. Being a swinger and pursuing sex with married couples and/or other singles outside of marriage must, by default either make you a tolerant, open-minded liberal or it must make you a hypocrite. We are all liberals." This political thread proves many are not liberals on here and are full of ignorant prejudice.Many on here are very intollerent sadly | |||
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"Depends on what your idea of liberal is. I think the traditional categories of liberal/conservatives don't work anymore. I have seen people with all permutations and combinations in the following subjects LGBT - Pro and Anti Immigration - Totally against/Only skilled immigration/Open door policy Death penalty - Pro and Anti Economic policy - Free market vs Regulated Deportation - Pro and Anti Social welfare, Universal health car and education - Pro and Anti Taxation - Should we tax the rich more? Religion - Atheist/Agnostic/Theistic religion Take any combination of answers for the above and I can think of someone who supports that set of principles. And then there is conflict of interest. What if you support free immigration and a group of people in the immigrants are against your other principles? People in fab also will have a diverse range of opinions in all these matters. The only common opinion we all have is sex is great." perfect. | |||
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"Well traditional right wing ideology revolves around family values, the need for religion as a guiding hand, a society that exists in order, rules and discipline, a lack of tolerance for homosexuality and women’s rights and of course the sanctity of marriage is absolute. No-one with right wing views can possibly exist on this site unless they are blatant hypocrites and if they are hypocrites about this - what other parts of their ideology do they simply pay lip service to??? " do you consider yaself tolerant and liberal given yr posts on here in the past about leavers or are you only tolerant about ppl woth the same political thinking as yrself ? | |||
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"Well traditional right wing ideology revolves around family values, the need for religion as a guiding hand, a society that exists in order, rules and discipline, a lack of tolerance for homosexuality and women’s rights and of course the sanctity of marriage is absolute. No-one with right wing views can possibly exist on this site unless they are blatant hypocrites and if they are hypocrites about this - what other parts of their ideology do they simply pay lip service to??? do you consider yaself tolerant and liberal given yr posts on here in the past about leavers or are you only tolerant about ppl woth the same political thinking as yrself ?" Well hold on. You can't compare intolerance of leave voters to intolerance of foreigners, Asian, black, LGBT+ people. Voting leave was a choice. And can therefore be criticised. | |||
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"Well traditional right wing ideology revolves around family values, the need for religion as a guiding hand, a society that exists in order, rules and discipline, a lack of tolerance for homosexuality and women’s rights and of course the sanctity of marriage is absolute. No-one with right wing views can possibly exist on this site unless they are blatant hypocrites and if they are hypocrites about this - what other parts of their ideology do they simply pay lip service to??? do you consider yaself tolerant and liberal given yr posts on here in the past about leavers or are you only tolerant about ppl woth the same political thinking as yrself ? Well hold on. You can't compare intolerance of leave voters to intolerance of foreigners, Asian, black, LGBT+ people. Voting leave was a choice. And can therefore be criticised. " nothing wrong with been criticised mate nothing at all but to be called a racist traitor thick northerner chav oik pleb is a bit much don’t ya think lol | |||
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"Well traditional right wing ideology revolves around family values, the need for religion as a guiding hand, a society that exists in order, rules and discipline, a lack of tolerance for homosexuality and women’s rights and of course the sanctity of marriage is absolute. No-one with right wing views can possibly exist on this site unless they are blatant hypocrites and if they are hypocrites about this - what other parts of their ideology do they simply pay lip service to??? do you consider yaself tolerant and liberal given yr posts on here in the past about leavers or are you only tolerant about ppl woth the same political thinking as yrself ? Well hold on. You can't compare intolerance of leave voters to intolerance of foreigners, Asian, black, LGBT+ people. Voting leave was a choice. And can therefore be criticised. " so can voting remain. It's a two edged sword which you seem to forget | |||
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"Well traditional right wing ideology revolves around family values, the need for religion as a guiding hand, a society that exists in order, rules and discipline, a lack of tolerance for homosexuality and women’s rights and of course the sanctity of marriage is absolute. No-one with right wing views can possibly exist on this site unless they are blatant hypocrites and if they are hypocrites about this - what other parts of their ideology do they simply pay lip service to??? do you consider yaself tolerant and liberal given yr posts on here in the past about leavers or are you only tolerant about ppl woth the same political thinking as yrself ? Well hold on. You can't compare intolerance of leave voters to intolerance of foreigners, Asian, black, LGBT+ people. Voting leave was a choice. And can therefore be criticised. nothing wrong with been criticised mate nothing at all but to be called a racist traitor thick northerner chav oik pleb is a bit much don’t ya think lol" Yes, it is completely unacceptable, who called you that ? | |||
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"Well traditional right wing ideology revolves around family values, the need for religion as a guiding hand, a society that exists in order, rules and discipline, a lack of tolerance for homosexuality and women’s rights and of course the sanctity of marriage is absolute. No-one with right wing views can possibly exist on this site unless they are blatant hypocrites and if they are hypocrites about this - what other parts of their ideology do they simply pay lip service to??? do you consider yaself tolerant and liberal given yr posts on here in the past about leavers or are you only tolerant about ppl woth the same political thinking as yrself ? Well hold on. You can't compare intolerance of leave voters to intolerance of foreigners, Asian, black, LGBT+ people. Voting leave was a choice. And can therefore be criticised. nothing wrong with been criticised mate nothing at all but to be called a racist traitor thick northerner chav oik pleb is a bit much don’t ya think lol" You missed out the riff raff | |||
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"Well traditional right wing ideology revolves around family values, the need for religion as a guiding hand, a society that exists in order, rules and discipline, a lack of tolerance for homosexuality and women’s rights and of course the sanctity of marriage is absolute. No-one with right wing views can possibly exist on this site unless they are blatant hypocrites and if they are hypocrites about this - what other parts of their ideology do they simply pay lip service to??? do you consider yaself tolerant and liberal given yr posts on here in the past about leavers or are you only tolerant about ppl woth the same political thinking as yrself ? Well hold on. You can't compare intolerance of leave voters to intolerance of foreigners, Asian, black, LGBT+ people. Voting leave was a choice. And can therefore be criticised. so can voting remain. It's a two edged sword which you seem to forget " Yeah exactly. So if someone wants to criticise my choice for voting remain that's completely valid. Work away. | |||
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"Well traditional right wing ideology revolves around family values, the need for religion as a guiding hand, a society that exists in order, rules and discipline, a lack of tolerance for homosexuality and women’s rights and of course the sanctity of marriage is absolute. No-one with right wing views can possibly exist on this site unless they are blatant hypocrites and if they are hypocrites about this - what other parts of their ideology do they simply pay lip service to??? do you consider yaself tolerant and liberal given yr posts on here in the past about leavers or are you only tolerant about ppl woth the same political thinking as yrself ? Well hold on. You can't compare intolerance of leave voters to intolerance of foreigners, Asian, black, LGBT+ people. Voting leave was a choice. And can therefore be criticised. nothing wrong with been criticised mate nothing at all but to be called a racist traitor thick northerner chav oik pleb is a bit much don’t ya think lol" Yeah so that's just insults. Which wasn't what we were talking about. | |||
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"Well traditional right wing ideology revolves around family values, the need for religion as a guiding hand, a society that exists in order, rules and discipline, a lack of tolerance for homosexuality and women’s rights and of course the sanctity of marriage is absolute. No-one with right wing views can possibly exist on this site unless they are blatant hypocrites and if they are hypocrites about this - what other parts of their ideology do they simply pay lip service to??? do you consider yaself tolerant and liberal given yr posts on here in the past about leavers or are you only tolerant about ppl woth the same political thinking as yrself ? Well hold on. You can't compare intolerance of leave voters to intolerance of foreigners, Asian, black, LGBT+ people. Voting leave was a choice. And can therefore be criticised. nothing wrong with been criticised mate nothing at all but to be called a racist traitor thick northerner chav oik pleb is a bit much don’t ya think lol Yes, it is completely unacceptable, who called you that ? " the guy who started this thread it’s funny really because I’d bet every person who voted remain as some family or friends workmates who voted leave so it doesn’t make sense | |||
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"Well traditional right wing ideology revolves around family values, the need for religion as a guiding hand, a society that exists in order, rules and discipline, a lack of tolerance for homosexuality and women’s rights and of course the sanctity of marriage is absolute. No-one with right wing views can possibly exist on this site unless they are blatant hypocrites and if they are hypocrites about this - what other parts of their ideology do they simply pay lip service to??? do you consider yaself tolerant and liberal given yr posts on here in the past about leavers or are you only tolerant about ppl woth the same political thinking as yrself ? Well hold on. You can't compare intolerance of leave voters to intolerance of foreigners, Asian, black, LGBT+ people. Voting leave was a choice. And can therefore be criticised. nothing wrong with been criticised mate nothing at all but to be called a racist traitor thick northerner chav oik pleb is a bit much don’t ya think lol Yes, it is completely unacceptable, who called you that ? the guy who started this thread it’s funny really because I’d bet every person who voted remain as some family or friends workmates who voted leave so it doesn’t make sense " Pull up the thread where I “called you those words.” Any person with an inkling of a sense of humour would know that referring to my own kind here in the north west as oiks, riff-raff and mere Plebs was more than a bit tongue in cheek and self-depreciating. You have hung on to it for the countless months or years since it was posted and try to use it - as you have here as some kind of reverse insult. As I said at the time, and I repeat now - if the cap fits... But - for the record... Were all Leave voters racist? No. Were all racists Leave voters - probably yes. Were all Leave voters in the north Oiks, Chavs and riff-raff? No. Did all of the oiks, Chavs and riff-raff here in the north vote Leave? Probably yes. | |||
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"Well traditional right wing ideology revolves around family values, the need for religion as a guiding hand, a society that exists in order, rules and discipline, a lack of tolerance for homosexuality and women’s rights and of course the sanctity of marriage is absolute. No-one with right wing views can possibly exist on this site unless they are blatant hypocrites and if they are hypocrites about this - what other parts of their ideology do they simply pay lip service to??? do you consider yaself tolerant and liberal given yr posts on here in the past about leavers or are you only tolerant about ppl woth the same political thinking as yrself ? Well hold on. You can't compare intolerance of leave voters to intolerance of foreigners, Asian, black, LGBT+ people. Voting leave was a choice. And can therefore be criticised. nothing wrong with been criticised mate nothing at all but to be called a racist traitor thick northerner chav oik pleb is a bit much don’t ya think lol Yes, it is completely unacceptable, who called you that ? the guy who started this thread it’s funny really because I’d bet every person who voted remain as some family or friends workmates who voted leave so it doesn’t make sense " I definitely have family who voted leave. But they have other problems. No one at my work would admit to it if they did. And I have two friends who voted leave. One because they hated how the EU treats immigrants from war torn places and one because he thought it would destroy the Tories. I know them both well enough to discuss it and be in disagreement. | |||
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"Well traditional right wing ideology revolves around family values, the need for religion as a guiding hand, a society that exists in order, rules and discipline, a lack of tolerance for homosexuality and women’s rights and of course the sanctity of marriage is absolute. No-one with right wing views can possibly exist on this site unless they are blatant hypocrites and if they are hypocrites about this - what other parts of their ideology do they simply pay lip service to??? do you consider yaself tolerant and liberal given yr posts on here in the past about leavers or are you only tolerant about ppl woth the same political thinking as yrself ? Well hold on. You can't compare intolerance of leave voters to intolerance of foreigners, Asian, black, LGBT+ people. Voting leave was a choice. And can therefore be criticised. nothing wrong with been criticised mate nothing at all but to be called a racist traitor thick northerner chav oik pleb is a bit much don’t ya think lol Yes, it is completely unacceptable, who called you that ? the guy who started this thread it’s funny really because I’d bet every person who voted remain as some family or friends workmates who voted leave so it doesn’t make sense Pull up the thread where I “called you those words.” Any person with an inkling of a sense of humour would know that referring to my own kind here in the north west as oiks, riff-raff and mere Plebs was more than a bit tongue in cheek and self-depreciating. You have hung on to it for the countless months or years since it was posted and try to use it - as you have here as some kind of reverse insult. As I said at the time, and I repeat now - if the cap fits... But - for the record... Were all Leave voters racist? No. Were all racists Leave voters - probably yes. Were all Leave voters in the north Oiks, Chavs and riff-raff? No. Did all of the oiks, Chavs and riff-raff here in the north vote Leave? Probably yes. " you know for a fact I can’t oull up the thread it was over a yr ago I’m not arsed about the chav shit and all that you don’t know me but to be called racist boiled my piss like I say you don’t know me if you did you would see how stupid that was | |||
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"Well traditional right wing ideology revolves around family values, the need for religion as a guiding hand, a society that exists in order, rules and discipline, a lack of tolerance for homosexuality and women’s rights and of course the sanctity of marriage is absolute. No-one with right wing views can possibly exist on this site unless they are blatant hypocrites and if they are hypocrites about this - what other parts of their ideology do they simply pay lip service to??? do you consider yaself tolerant and liberal given yr posts on here in the past about leavers or are you only tolerant about ppl woth the same political thinking as yrself ? Well hold on. You can't compare intolerance of leave voters to intolerance of foreigners, Asian, black, LGBT+ people. Voting leave was a choice. And can therefore be criticised. nothing wrong with been criticised mate nothing at all but to be called a racist traitor thick northerner chav oik pleb is a bit much don’t ya think lol Yes, it is completely unacceptable, who called you that ? the guy who started this thread it’s funny really because I’d bet every person who voted remain as some family or friends workmates who voted leave so it doesn’t make sense Pull up the thread where I “called you those words.” Any person with an inkling of a sense of humour would know that referring to my own kind here in the north west as oiks, riff-raff and mere Plebs was more than a bit tongue in cheek and self-depreciating. You have hung on to it for the countless months or years since it was posted and try to use it - as you have here as some kind of reverse insult. As I said at the time, and I repeat now - if the cap fits... But - for the record... Were all Leave voters racist? No. Were all racists Leave voters - probably yes. Were all Leave voters in the north Oiks, Chavs and riff-raff? No. Did all of the oiks, Chavs and riff-raff here in the north vote Leave? Probably yes. you know for a fact I can’t oull up the thread it was over a yr ago I’m not arsed about the chav shit and all that you don’t know me but to be called racist boiled my piss like I say you don’t know me if you did you would see how stupid that was " So honestly then. Can you not tell the difference between: Were all Leave voters racist? No. Were all racists Leave voters - probably yes This is pretty much an accepted state of affairs and it baffles me why you would think that this suggests that you are a racist. I will call racism out if I see it and unfortunately around these parts racism is on the rise as is being witnessed right now by a relative of mine who is married to a woman of Chinese origin (but who was born in Chorlton). I have NEVER directly accused anyone of racism because of their Brexit vote alone. | |||
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"Does a realist hand a fish to a puppeteer. Does a fish hand a puppeteer to a realist? "That is proper deep | |||
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"Well traditional right wing ideology revolves around family values, the need for religion as a guiding hand, a society that exists in order, rules and discipline, a lack of tolerance for homosexuality and women’s rights and of course the sanctity of marriage is absolute. No-one with right wing views can possibly exist on this site unless they are blatant hypocrites and if they are hypocrites about this - what other parts of their ideology do they simply pay lip service to??? do you consider yaself tolerant and liberal given yr posts on here in the past about leavers or are you only tolerant about ppl woth the same political thinking as yrself ? Well hold on. You can't compare intolerance of leave voters to intolerance of foreigners, Asian, black, LGBT+ people. Voting leave was a choice. And can therefore be criticised. nothing wrong with been criticised mate nothing at all but to be called a racist traitor thick northerner chav oik pleb is a bit much don’t ya think lol Yes, it is completely unacceptable, who called you that ? the guy who started this thread it’s funny really because I’d bet every person who voted remain as some family or friends workmates who voted leave so it doesn’t make sense Pull up the thread where I “called you those words.” Any person with an inkling of a sense of humour would know that referring to my own kind here in the north west as oiks, riff-raff and mere Plebs was more than a bit tongue in cheek and self-depreciating. You have hung on to it for the countless months or years since it was posted and try to use it - as you have here as some kind of reverse insult. As I said at the time, and I repeat now - if the cap fits... But - for the record... Were all Leave voters racist? No. Were all racists Leave voters - probably yes. Were all Leave voters in the north Oiks, Chavs and riff-raff? No. Did all of the oiks, Chavs and riff-raff here in the north vote Leave? Probably yes. you know for a fact I can’t oull up the thread it was over a yr ago I’m not arsed about the chav shit and all that you don’t know me but to be called racist boiled my piss like I say you don’t know me if you did you would see how stupid that was So honestly then. Can you not tell the difference between: Were all Leave voters racist? No. Were all racists Leave voters - probably yes This is pretty much an accepted state of affairs and it baffles me why you would think that this suggests that you are a racist. I will call racism out if I see it and unfortunately around these parts racism is on the rise as is being witnessed right now by a relative of mine who is married to a woman of Chinese origin (but who was born in Chorlton). I have NEVER directly accused anyone of racism because of their Brexit vote alone. " I understand your position entirely and the only thing I would add is that leavers in general portray themselves as victims of all sorts of nebulous authorities such as the EU, London, liberals etc and even though they appear to have won their fight they still moan like fuck about everything being someone else’s fault. Whatever happens the future belongs to them so the sooner they stop bitching about it and own their choices the better as far as I am concerned....oh, and I do reserve the right to keep prodding the lazy thinkers on here to try and get them to think a bit about the catchphrases they are trotting out repeatedly. Good post btw....well said  | |||
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