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"Bernie is the hope for the DNC and they shit on him for some reason. " bernie only cares about bernie... he doesn't care about any of the downballot stuff of which he will need the senate and house to even try ad getthru medicare for all..... bernie will win california.... hopefully now this leads biden to win texas the best thing that can happen tues is for warren wins MA, Klobuchar wins MN (their home states) and then they both drop out the race.... the it basically because i 3 person race between sanders, biden and mayor pete... then pete drops out... us dems overseas have basically 10 days to make up our minds for our primary.... i still have not decided what i am doing | |||
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"Whoever wins they will lose to Trump in the big one" I agree. I see very little hope for any positive change in the States right now. | |||
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"Whoever wins they will lose to Trump in the big one I agree. I see very little hope for any positive change in the States right now. " A bit like the UK no decent opposition and that makes for bad government | |||
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"Whoever wins they will lose to Trump in the big one I agree. I see very little hope for any positive change in the States right now. A bit like the UK no decent opposition and that makes for bad government" No decent anyone in my opinion. I don't know US politics well enough to know who in the democratic party is any good. | |||
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"Whoever wins they will lose to Trump in the big one I agree. I see very little hope for any positive change in the States right now. A bit like the UK no decent opposition and that makes for bad government" Indeed it does. As we are now witnessing - and will for the best part of five years and, probably, even longer. | |||
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"mayor pete pulls out yesterday.... amy klobuchar pulls out today... endorses biden.... so basically we are down to 4.... bernie, biden, warren and bloomberg... i'm betting warren probably bows out tomorrow night... and if bloomberg doesn't win any states he will go as well... then it will be bernie vs biden..... if it comes down to those two by thursday, i will vote for biden in the democrats abroad primary" What did he mean by lying dog faced pony soldier? Not his finest hour but still trying to work it out. | |||
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"Doesn’t sound much of a field. Creepy dog faced pony soldier Biden. Fakeahontas Poor old Bernie and his unrealistic ideas. I liked the Yang gang. I hope he comes back strong for the next election. " Why the name calling? This is just doing Trump's biding. Bullies do this to undermine people. | |||
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"Doesn’t sound much of a field. Creepy dog faced pony soldier Biden. Fakeahontas Poor old Bernie and his unrealistic ideas. I liked the Yang gang. I hope he comes back strong for the next election. Why the name calling? This is just doing Trump's biding. Bullies do this to undermine people." Ha ha don’t see you stepping in when people call Trump names? Fakeahontas Trod on other people to get in a position of privilege. And Creepy Joe directed those exact words at a supporter. Give me Bernie any day. | |||
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"Doesn’t sound much of a field. Creepy dog faced pony soldier Biden. Fakeahontas Poor old Bernie and his unrealistic ideas. I liked the Yang gang. I hope he comes back strong for the next election. Why the name calling? This is just doing Trump's biding. Bullies do this to undermine people. Ha ha don’t see you stepping in when people call Trump names? Fakeahontas Trod on other people to get in a position of privilege. And Creepy Joe directed those exact words at a supporter. Give me Bernie any day. " People just insult Trump in various ways. I am asking specifically why you are repeating his insulting nicknames. His labels for people. Again, that is what bullies do to undermine people without actually confronting any substantive matters. If what you say is true you can see how pervasive this empty mudslinging is. I also think Sanders is by far the most genuine candidate. I'm not arguing that point. | |||
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"Doesn’t sound much of a field. Creepy dog faced pony soldier Biden. Fakeahontas Poor old Bernie and his unrealistic ideas. I liked the Yang gang. I hope he comes back strong for the next election. Why the name calling? This is just doing Trump's biding. Bullies do this to undermine people. Ha ha don’t see you stepping in when people call Trump names? Fakeahontas Trod on other people to get in a position of privilege. And Creepy Joe directed those exact words at a supporter. Give me Bernie any day. People just insult Trump in various ways. I am asking specifically why you are repeating his insulting nicknames. His labels for people. Again, that is what bullies do to undermine people without actually confronting any substantive matters. If what you say is true you can see how pervasive this empty mudslinging is. I also think Sanders is by far the most genuine candidate. I'm not arguing that point." Because I can it’s relevant very much to Biden and the way he conducts himself. He’s a flawed creep in the Metoo era. | |||
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"Doesn’t sound much of a field. Creepy dog faced pony soldier Biden. Fakeahontas Poor old Bernie and his unrealistic ideas. I liked the Yang gang. I hope he comes back strong for the next election. Why the name calling? This is just doing Trump's biding. Bullies do this to undermine people. Ha ha don’t see you stepping in when people call Trump names? Fakeahontas Trod on other people to get in a position of privilege. And Creepy Joe directed those exact words at a supporter. Give me Bernie any day. People just insult Trump in various ways. I am asking specifically why you are repeating his insulting nicknames. His labels for people. Again, that is what bullies do to undermine people without actually confronting any substantive matters. If what you say is true you can see how pervasive this empty mudslinging is. I also think Sanders is by far the most genuine candidate. I'm not arguing that point. Because I can it’s relevant very much to Biden and the way he conducts himself. He’s a flawed creep in the Metoo era. " "Because I can" is never a nice sentiment. Why not actually explain what you mean? I realise that appears not to be effective in the world as it seems to exist, but it is more informative in a discussion. It is still doing Trump's work for him at his behest. | |||
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"Doesn’t sound much of a field. Creepy dog faced pony soldier Biden. Fakeahontas Poor old Bernie and his unrealistic ideas. I liked the Yang gang. I hope he comes back strong for the next election. Why the name calling? This is just doing Trump's biding. Bullies do this to undermine people. Ha ha don’t see you stepping in when people call Trump names? Fakeahontas Trod on other people to get in a position of privilege. And Creepy Joe directed those exact words at a supporter. Give me Bernie any day. People just insult Trump in various ways. I am asking specifically why you are repeating his insulting nicknames. His labels for people. Again, that is what bullies do to undermine people without actually confronting any substantive matters. If what you say is true you can see how pervasive this empty mudslinging is. I also think Sanders is by far the most genuine candidate. I'm not arguing that point. Because I can it’s relevant very much to Biden and the way he conducts himself. He’s a flawed creep in the Metoo era. "Because I can" is never a nice sentiment. Why not actually explain what you mean? I realise that appears not to be effective in the world as it seems to exist, but it is more informative in a discussion. It is still doing Trump's work for him at his behest." I actually got it from a Vox article that referred to him by that moniker and described his dreadful behaviour. I wonder if they know they are doing Trumps bidding  | |||
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"Biden is running a very Obama type campaign. It seems that even the Democrat establishment doesn't like Sanders. " Shame really as I don’t think Uncle Bernie has it in him to run again after this. But that paves the way for the Yang Gang! | |||
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"Doesn’t sound much of a field. Creepy dog faced pony soldier Biden. Fakeahontas Poor old Bernie and his unrealistic ideas. I liked the Yang gang. I hope he comes back strong for the next election. Why the name calling? This is just doing Trump's biding. Bullies do this to undermine people. Ha ha don’t see you stepping in when people call Trump names? Fakeahontas Trod on other people to get in a position of privilege. And Creepy Joe directed those exact words at a supporter. Give me Bernie any day. People just insult Trump in various ways. I am asking specifically why you are repeating his insulting nicknames. His labels for people. Again, that is what bullies do to undermine people without actually confronting any substantive matters. If what you say is true you can see how pervasive this empty mudslinging is. I also think Sanders is by far the most genuine candidate. I'm not arguing that point. Because I can it’s relevant very much to Biden and the way he conducts himself. He’s a flawed creep in the Metoo era. "Because I can" is never a nice sentiment. Why not actually explain what you mean? I realise that appears not to be effective in the world as it seems to exist, but it is more informative in a discussion. It is still doing Trump's work for him at his behest. I actually got it from a Vox article that referred to him by that moniker and described his dreadful behaviour. I wonder if they know they are doing Trumps bidding "That's rather the point. Trying to normalise derogatory language about your opponents. How is Trump addressed normally? There simply is not the same cynical l, nasty methodology aimed at him. | |||
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"Biden is running a very Obama type campaign. It seems that even the Democrat establishment doesn't like Sanders. Shame really as I don’t think Uncle Bernie has it in him to run again after this. But that paves the way for the Yang Gang! " I agree. However, perhaps there is enough to demonstrate that there is support behind "socialism". Particularly from the young and there will be a slow shift. Perhaps this would be more likely to achieve those aims than radicalism which tends to lead to reactionary pushback? | |||
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"Doesn’t sound much of a field. Creepy dog faced pony soldier Biden. Fakeahontas Poor old Bernie and his unrealistic ideas. I liked the Yang gang. I hope he comes back strong for the next election. Why the name calling? This is just doing Trump's biding. Bullies do this to undermine people. Ha ha don’t see you stepping in when people call Trump names? Fakeahontas Trod on other people to get in a position of privilege. And Creepy Joe directed those exact words at a supporter. Give me Bernie any day. People just insult Trump in various ways. I am asking specifically why you are repeating his insulting nicknames. His labels for people. Again, that is what bullies do to undermine people without actually confronting any substantive matters. If what you say is true you can see how pervasive this empty mudslinging is. I also think Sanders is by far the most genuine candidate. I'm not arguing that point. Because I can it’s relevant very much to Biden and the way he conducts himself. He’s a flawed creep in the Metoo era. "Because I can" is never a nice sentiment. Why not actually explain what you mean? I realise that appears not to be effective in the world as it seems to exist, but it is more informative in a discussion. It is still doing Trump's work for him at his behest. I actually got it from a Vox article that referred to him by that moniker and described his dreadful behaviour. I wonder if they know they are doing Trumps bidding
That's rather the point. Trying to normalise derogatory language about your opponents.
How is Trump addressed normally? There simply is not the same cynical l, nasty methodology aimed at him."On here he is called lots of nasty names. My favourite was when someone compare him to a wotsit. Which I believe is like a Uk Cheeto having never partaken in one. That was a fairly nice one.  | |||
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"Doesn’t sound much of a field. Creepy dog faced pony soldier Biden. Fakeahontas Poor old Bernie and his unrealistic ideas. I liked the Yang gang. I hope he comes back strong for the next election. Why the name calling? This is just doing Trump's biding. Bullies do this to undermine people. Ha ha don’t see you stepping in when people call Trump names? Fakeahontas Trod on other people to get in a position of privilege. And Creepy Joe directed those exact words at a supporter. Give me Bernie any day. People just insult Trump in various ways. I am asking specifically why you are repeating his insulting nicknames. His labels for people. Again, that is what bullies do to undermine people without actually confronting any substantive matters. If what you say is true you can see how pervasive this empty mudslinging is. I also think Sanders is by far the most genuine candidate. I'm not arguing that point. Because I can it’s relevant very much to Biden and the way he conducts himself. He’s a flawed creep in the Metoo era. "Because I can" is never a nice sentiment. Why not actually explain what you mean? I realise that appears not to be effective in the world as it seems to exist, but it is more informative in a discussion. It is still doing Trump's work for him at his behest. I actually got it from a Vox article that referred to him by that moniker and described his dreadful behaviour. I wonder if they know they are doing Trumps bidding
That's rather the point. Trying to normalise derogatory language about your opponents.
How is Trump addressed normally? There simply is not the same cynical l, nasty methodology aimed at him.
On here he is called lots of nasty names. My favourite was when someone compare him to a wotsit. Which I believe is like a Uk Cheeto having never partaken in one.
That was a fairly nice one. "That's creative comic ranting. The British seem to be particularly accomplished at this 
That's not what I meant though. It's the repeated offensive nickname which is specifically intended to undermine.
You do get my intention I think. | |||
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"Doesn’t sound much of a field. Creepy dog faced pony soldier Biden. Fakeahontas Poor old Bernie and his unrealistic ideas. I liked the Yang gang. I hope he comes back strong for the next election. Why the name calling? This is just doing Trump's biding. Bullies do this to undermine people. Ha ha don’t see you stepping in when people call Trump names? Fakeahontas Trod on other people to get in a position of privilege. And Creepy Joe directed those exact words at a supporter. Give me Bernie any day. People just insult Trump in various ways. I am asking specifically why you are repeating his insulting nicknames. His labels for people. Again, that is what bullies do to undermine people without actually confronting any substantive matters. If what you say is true you can see how pervasive this empty mudslinging is. I also think Sanders is by far the most genuine candidate. I'm not arguing that point. Because I can it’s relevant very much to Biden and the way he conducts himself. He’s a flawed creep in the Metoo era. "Because I can" is never a nice sentiment. Why not actually explain what you mean? I realise that appears not to be effective in the world as it seems to exist, but it is more informative in a discussion. It is still doing Trump's work for him at his behest. I actually got it from a Vox article that referred to him by that moniker and described his dreadful behaviour. I wonder if they know they are doing Trumps bidding
That's rather the point. Trying to normalise derogatory language about your opponents.
How is Trump addressed normally? There simply is not the same cynical l, nasty methodology aimed at him.
On here he is called lots of nasty names. My favourite was when someone compare him to a wotsit. Which I believe is like a Uk Cheeto having never partaken in one.
That was a fairly nice one.
That's creative comic ranting. The British seem to be particularly accomplished at this
That's not what I meant though. It's the repeated offensive nickname which is specifically intended to undermine.
You do get my intention I think."Yup I do. But as Fakeahontas (thanks again Vox) has dropped out I will continue to mention Biden as a creepy man who is out of touch. His classic faux pas on the mic the other night when he seemingly woke up and made a non sensical interruption. Had me in stitches. I meant what the fuck is going on | |||
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"Doesn’t sound much of a field. Creepy dog faced pony soldier Biden. Fakeahontas Poor old Bernie and his unrealistic ideas. I liked the Yang gang. I hope he comes back strong for the next election. Why the name calling? This is just doing Trump's biding. Bullies do this to undermine people. Ha ha don’t see you stepping in when people call Trump names? Fakeahontas Trod on other people to get in a position of privilege. And Creepy Joe directed those exact words at a supporter. Give me Bernie any day. People just insult Trump in various ways. I am asking specifically why you are repeating his insulting nicknames. His labels for people. Again, that is what bullies do to undermine people without actually confronting any substantive matters. If what you say is true you can see how pervasive this empty mudslinging is. I also think Sanders is by far the most genuine candidate. I'm not arguing that point. Because I can it’s relevant very much to Biden and the way he conducts himself. He’s a flawed creep in the Metoo era. "Because I can" is never a nice sentiment. Why not actually explain what you mean? I realise that appears not to be effective in the world as it seems to exist, but it is more informative in a discussion. It is still doing Trump's work for him at his behest. I actually got it from a Vox article that referred to him by that moniker and described his dreadful behaviour. I wonder if they know they are doing Trumps bidding
That's rather the point. Trying to normalise derogatory language about your opponents.
How is Trump addressed normally? There simply is not the same cynical l, nasty methodology aimed at him.
On here he is called lots of nasty names. My favourite was when someone compare him to a wotsit. Which I believe is like a Uk Cheeto having never partaken in one.
That was a fairly nice one.
That's creative comic ranting. The British seem to be particularly accomplished at this
That's not what I meant though. It's the repeated offensive nickname which is specifically intended to undermine.
You do get my intention I think.
Yup I do. But as Fakeahontas (thanks again Vox) has dropped out I will continue to mention Biden as a creepy man who is out of touch.
His classic faux pas on the mic the other night when he seemingly woke up and made a non sensical interruption. Had me in stitches. I meant what the fuck is going on
"Again though, what do you have against Warren to label her this way? It's just not a very nice thing to normalise. I'm just suggesting that it's worth thinking about a bit more seriously. | |||
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"Doesn’t sound much of a field. Creepy dog faced pony soldier Biden. Fakeahontas Poor old Bernie and his unrealistic ideas. I liked the Yang gang. I hope he comes back strong for the next election. Why the name calling? This is just doing Trump's biding. Bullies do this to undermine people. Ha ha don’t see you stepping in when people call Trump names? Fakeahontas Trod on other people to get in a position of privilege. And Creepy Joe directed those exact words at a supporter. Give me Bernie any day. People just insult Trump in various ways. I am asking specifically why you are repeating his insulting nicknames. His labels for people. Again, that is what bullies do to undermine people without actually confronting any substantive matters. If what you say is true you can see how pervasive this empty mudslinging is. I also think Sanders is by far the most genuine candidate. I'm not arguing that point. Because I can it’s relevant very much to Biden and the way he conducts himself. He’s a flawed creep in the Metoo era. "Because I can" is never a nice sentiment. Why not actually explain what you mean? I realise that appears not to be effective in the world as it seems to exist, but it is more informative in a discussion. It is still doing Trump's work for him at his behest. I actually got it from a Vox article that referred to him by that moniker and described his dreadful behaviour. I wonder if they know they are doing Trumps bidding
That's rather the point. Trying to normalise derogatory language about your opponents.
How is Trump addressed normally? There simply is not the same cynical l, nasty methodology aimed at him.
On here he is called lots of nasty names. My favourite was when someone compare him to a wotsit. Which I believe is like a Uk Cheeto having never partaken in one.
That was a fairly nice one.
That's creative comic ranting. The British seem to be particularly accomplished at this
That's not what I meant though. It's the repeated offensive nickname which is specifically intended to undermine.
You do get my intention I think.
Yup I do. But as Fakeahontas (thanks again Vox) has dropped out I will continue to mention Biden as a creepy man who is out of touch.
His classic faux pas on the mic the other night when he seemingly woke up and made a non sensical interruption. Had me in stitches. I meant what the fuck is going on
Again though, what do you have against Warren to label her this way?
It's just not a very nice thing to normalise.
I'm just suggesting that it's worth thinking about a bit more seriously."Nope. Save me the lectures on morality. But thanks for the input. We are going to have disagree here and move the thread forward rather than go over the same old ground. | |||
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"i think the audacity of trump supporters to call biden "creepy" is huge.... so lets tell people what actually happened.... a few ladies complained they felt uncomfortable with him being overly-tactile at times... not one of them said there was anything sexual in it at all..... see thats a smear!!! so to compare biden to trumps history of alledged sexual assaults (remember if you are famous you can touch them in the pussy!!!!) you really want to go there?" Where are these trump supporters calling him creepy here dude? I’m only going by the Vox article.
Trump is a reprehensible character as well.
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"Doesn’t sound much of a field. Creepy dog faced pony soldier Biden. Fakeahontas Poor old Bernie and his unrealistic ideas. I liked the Yang gang. I hope he comes back strong for the next election. " The world has gone just a little bit crazy when a national health insurance program, a living wage, free public higher education, and a serious green energy investment plan are considered unrealistic. But Michazel Yang's proposal for universal basic income isn't apparently | |||
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"Doesn’t sound much of a field. Creepy dog faced pony soldier Biden. Fakeahontas Poor old Bernie and his unrealistic ideas. I liked the Yang gang. I hope he comes back strong for the next election. The world has gone just a little bit crazy when a national health insurance program, a living wage, free public higher education, and a serious green energy investment plan are considered unrealistic. But Michazel Yang's proposal for universal basic income isn't apparently" I thought Bernies idea were fundamentally attainable. I think Andrew Yang will be back stronger and will shed some of his more unrealistic ideas. | |||
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" I thought Bernies idea were fundamentally attainable. I think Andrew Yang will be back stronger and will shed some of his more unrealistic ideas. " i think you'll find yang and some of the other candidates in some part of the next "biden" administration.... the next interesting question may be who is asked to be biden's vp running partner...... stacy abhrams is a name you are going to hear a lot...(i wish she would have decided to run for 1 of the 22 georgia senate seats up... but she keeps saying no!) safer bet may be Kamala Harris... but i think she would make an even more kickass AG.... I could also see a pete buttigeg being secretary of state, that would i think be a role absolutely suited to him! | |||
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"Sanders should learn the lesson of Corbyn at our GE" What is the lesson? That you loooooove him? We all know you love Corbyn so much you can't stop mentioning him on every thread. | |||
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"The established order of the Democratic party has put its own survival ahead of the needs of the people of the US. They have decided that the US needs a repeat of 2016. Trump did not win on a ticket of 'back to normal'. Boldness, ambition and a genuine change of course won over the status quo. Buttigieg, a late frontrunner that dropped out, hasn't covered himself in glory, his campaign was based on a new era of politics but he's ended up endorsing a man that epitomises the old guard. The fact is, the candidates deeply rooted in the centre are simply trying to prevent Sanders winning the nomination, if not winning the presidency. Biden's track record on federal spending is poor, he's a dreadful public speaker and Trump will make mincemeat out of him, just like he did Clinton in 2016. The polls may show Biden beating Trump but now he can't hide as much, he will really struggle in debates, against Sanders next month and Trump if he is to win. Half the states will have voted by the time of the next debate but I think it might be too late for Sanders. Biden will have a poor debate against Sanders, even if he wins the nomination it'll take a toll on his chances of being president. Having said this, the Democratic party is not a centre-left party and it is unsurprising the established order aren't particularly keen on giving someone who is really just a mid-left independent the nomination." The election depends more on external factors than anything the Democrats do. Coronavirus, the economy or some other external event. | |||
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"Sanders should learn the lesson of Corbyn at our GE What is the lesson? That you loooooove him? We all know you love Corbyn so much you can't stop mentioning him on every thread. "There are certainly some Corbyn posters hanging in his living room. I bet there is also a small altar for Corbyn's glory | |||
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"Sanders should learn the lesson of Corbyn at our GE What is the lesson? That you loooooove him? We all know you love Corbyn so much you can't stop mentioning him on every thread.
There are certainly some Corbyn posters hanging in his living room. I bet there is also a small altar for Corbyn's glory "I just hope those posters are wipe clean. He sometimes gets very excited when talking about Corbyn. I think we all know what he's doing.  | |||
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"The election depends more on external factors than anything the Democrats do. Coronavirus, the economy or some other external event." Which 'external factors' decided the 2016 election? Russia invaded and successfully annexed Crimea in 2014 after Ukraine chose a path to the West. Normally, such a course of actions undertaken by a hostile country wouldn't see the US elect a president who was on good terms with Mr Putin. In June 2016, the US suffered its worst mass shooting when a terrorist opened fire in a gay nightclub with two legally purchased firearms. Although it has suffered one even worse than that since, it was the largest at the time. In 2013, Russia granted asylum to Edward Snowden after he disclosed the nature of surveillance programmes ran by the federal government. Again, it would be an unusal response to elect a president whose links to Mr Putin were clear at the next election. You can point to other external factors like the Syrian civil war, islamic terrorism (that mass shooting in 2016 was a part of) but world events leading up to 2016 would indicate the Democratic candidate, and their actions, does matter. | |||
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"It seems like Warren is thinking about dropping out too. She must know by now she has no chance. It's Sanders or Biden at this point." She’s dead in the water it’s only a matter of time. I have just had a look at some of the campaign costs and it’s eye watering! | |||
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"It seems like Warren is thinking about dropping out too. She must know by now she has no chance. It's Sanders or Biden at this point. She’s dead in the water it’s only a matter of time. I have just had a look at some of the campaign costs and it’s eye watering! " Oh the USA election costs are insane. Actually, that's probably what decides when candidates drop out. When the writing is on the wall, the money men likely just stop funding candidates. At that point, candidates have no choice but to quit. | |||
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"The election depends more on external factors than anything the Democrats do. Coronavirus, the economy or some other external event. Which 'external factors' decided the 2016 election? Russia invaded and successfully annexed Crimea in 2014 after Ukraine chose a path to the West. Normally, such a course of actions undertaken by a hostile country wouldn't see the US elect a president who was on good terms with Mr Putin. In June 2016, the US suffered its worst mass shooting when a terrorist opened fire in a gay nightclub with two legally purchased firearms. Although it has suffered one even worse than that since, it was the largest at the time. In 2013, Russia granted asylum to Edward Snowden after he disclosed the nature of surveillance programmes ran by the federal government. Again, it would be an unusal response to elect a president whose links to Mr Putin were clear at the next election. You can point to other external factors like the Syrian civil war, islamic terrorism (that mass shooting in 2016 was a part of) but world events leading up to 2016 would indicate the Democratic candidate, and their actions, does matter. " Considering how close the vote was (he lost the popular vote but won in critical marginals), the original FBI investigation into Hilary CLinton's e-mails and the re-opening just before the election. | |||
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"As in the UK - comrade bernie and his far left socialism has been totally rejected (for now). Instead Biden (who probably dont even remember he won this morning) cleans up the votes. However, demographics are key when it comes to elections and Sanders got the huge Hispanic vote (funnily enough, people who left their far left countries because of socialist policies leave to another country and vote far left) The Democrats opened the door to mass immigration for votes and the Republicans said "oh yes please" because of cheap labour. In the end none of these 2 will ever seize power again. The dems will keep flooding the country with the 3rd world whilst the Republicans rub their hands together for wealth. And all the whilst in the background they are and will lose power. The dems dodged a bullet (literally) this time but in the end socialists will reign supreme , another country will be utterly destroyed. The globalists will have their etopita " I guess you meant utopia? Either way I think your apocalyptic vision is a tad melodramatic don’t you? | |||
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"The election depends more on external factors than anything the Democrats do. Coronavirus, the economy or some other external event. Which 'external factors' decided the 2016 election? Russia invaded and successfully annexed Crimea in 2014 after Ukraine chose a path to the West. Normally, such a course of actions undertaken by a hostile country wouldn't see the US elect a president who was on good terms with Mr Putin. In June 2016, the US suffered its worst mass shooting when a terrorist opened fire in a gay nightclub with two legally purchased firearms. Although it has suffered one even worse than that since, it was the largest at the time. In 2013, Russia granted asylum to Edward Snowden after he disclosed the nature of surveillance programmes ran by the federal government. Again, it would be an unusal response to elect a president whose links to Mr Putin were clear at the next election. You can point to other external factors like the Syrian civil war, islamic terrorism (that mass shooting in 2016 was a part of) but world events leading up to 2016 would indicate the Democratic candidate, and their actions, does matter. Considering how close the vote was (he lost the popular vote but won in critical marginals), the original FBI investigation into Hilary CLinton's e-mails and the re-opening just before the election." So the last election *was* decided by the democratic nominee but this one won't be? | |||
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"The election depends more on external factors than anything the Democrats do. Coronavirus, the economy or some other external event. Which 'external factors' decided the 2016 election? Russia invaded and successfully annexed Crimea in 2014 after Ukraine chose a path to the West. Normally, such a course of actions undertaken by a hostile country wouldn't see the US elect a president who was on good terms with Mr Putin. In June 2016, the US suffered its worst mass shooting when a terrorist opened fire in a gay nightclub with two legally purchased firearms. Although it has suffered one even worse than that since, it was the largest at the time. In 2013, Russia granted asylum to Edward Snowden after he disclosed the nature of surveillance programmes ran by the federal government. Again, it would be an unusal response to elect a president whose links to Mr Putin were clear at the next election. You can point to other external factors like the Syrian civil war, islamic terrorism (that mass shooting in 2016 was a part of) but world events leading up to 2016 would indicate the Democratic candidate, and their actions, does matter. Considering how close the vote was (he lost the popular vote but won in critical marginals), the original FBI investigation into Hilary CLinton's e-mails and the re-opening just before the election. So the last election *was* decided by the democratic nominee but this one won't be?" No. I said that the margin was probably decided by the external event. The FBI investigation. There was also quite a lot about Russian interference of you remember. | |||
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"As in the UK - comrade bernie and his far left socialism has been totally rejected (for now). Instead Biden (who probably dont even remember he won this morning) cleans up the votes. However, demographics are key when it comes to elections and Sanders got the huge Hispanic vote (funnily enough, people who left their far left countries because of socialist policies leave to another country and vote far left) The Democrats opened the door to mass immigration for votes and the Republicans said "oh yes please" because of cheap labour. In the end none of these 2 will ever seize power again. The dems will keep flooding the country with the 3rd world whilst the Republicans rub their hands together for wealth. And all the whilst in the background they are and will lose power. The dems dodged a bullet (literally) this time but in the end socialists will reign supreme , another country will be utterly destroyed. The globalists will have their etopita " A lot o what you have claimed is just not true is it? Sanders is not "far left". By any estimation he is pretty mainstream for Europe. Latin American states have fluctuated between left and right wing governments so I don't think you can assert that those immigrants necessarily left far left countries. There is no evidence to suggest that the Democrats are "flooding" the US with anyone. Legal immigration into the USA rose steadily from 1943 to 1988 at 640,000 per year. There was then a significant spike to 1991 of 1.82 million (Ronald Reagan and George Bush Senior) before falling steadily again to 1999 (Bush Snr and Clinton) before rising under Clinton to 1.1 million. It then rose to a peak of 1.3 million under Bush Jr in 2006 before rising again in 2016. All of the immigration "floods" except for one came under Republican Presidents. Which aspects of socialism do you not like? The free health care? The free education? | |||
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"The election depends more on external factors than anything the Democrats do. Coronavirus, the economy or some other external event. Which 'external factors' decided the 2016 election? Russia invaded and successfully annexed Crimea in 2014 after Ukraine chose a path to the West. Normally, such a course of actions undertaken by a hostile country wouldn't see the US elect a president who was on good terms with Mr Putin. In June 2016, the US suffered its worst mass shooting when a terrorist opened fire in a gay nightclub with two legally purchased firearms. Although it has suffered one even worse than that since, it was the largest at the time. In 2013, Russia granted asylum to Edward Snowden after he disclosed the nature of surveillance programmes ran by the federal government. Again, it would be an unusal response to elect a president whose links to Mr Putin were clear at the next election. You can point to other external factors like the Syrian civil war, islamic terrorism (that mass shooting in 2016 was a part of) but world events leading up to 2016 would indicate the Democratic candidate, and their actions, does matter. Considering how close the vote was (he lost the popular vote but won in critical marginals), the original FBI investigation into Hilary CLinton's e-mails and the re-opening just before the election. So the last election *was* decided by the democratic nominee but this one won't be? No. I said that the margin was probably decided by the external event. The FBI investigation. There was also quite a lot about Russian interference of you remember." One of Trump's most memorable expressions during the debates, and activity on Twitter, was how he referred to Clinton essentially being bent. How can that be classed as external? Clinton being bent was frequently used as an attack line by Republicans. And it was something she simply could not shake off. I honestly cannot see how you can take that as 'external' when it played such a prominent role in the election of 2016. | |||
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"The election depends more on external factors than anything the Democrats do. Coronavirus, the economy or some other external event. Which 'external factors' decided the 2016 election? Russia invaded and successfully annexed Crimea in 2014 after Ukraine chose a path to the West. Normally, such a course of actions undertaken by a hostile country wouldn't see the US elect a president who was on good terms with Mr Putin. In June 2016, the US suffered its worst mass shooting when a terrorist opened fire in a gay nightclub with two legally purchased firearms. Although it has suffered one even worse than that since, it was the largest at the time. In 2013, Russia granted asylum to Edward Snowden after he disclosed the nature of surveillance programmes ran by the federal government. Again, it would be an unusal response to elect a president whose links to Mr Putin were clear at the next election. You can point to other external factors like the Syrian civil war, islamic terrorism (that mass shooting in 2016 was a part of) but world events leading up to 2016 would indicate the Democratic candidate, and their actions, does matter. Considering how close the vote was (he lost the popular vote but won in critical marginals), the original FBI investigation into Hilary CLinton's e-mails and the re-opening just before the election. So the last election *was* decided by the democratic nominee but this one won't be? No. I said that the margin was probably decided by the external event. The FBI investigation. There was also quite a lot about Russian interference of you remember. One of Trump's most memorable expressions during the debates, and activity on Twitter, was how he referred to Clinton essentially being bent. How can that be classed as external? Clinton being bent was frequently used as an attack line by Republicans. And it was something she simply could not shake off. I honestly cannot see how you can take that as 'external' when it played such a prominent role in the election of 2016. " To start, I did not say that all elections are completely defined by external events. We have just been discussing the use of derogatory names as a methodology used by bullies and repeated by everyone. However, once again, it was a very close election result yes? Trump actually lost the popular vote, correct? Is it not very possible that without the external FBI investigation reopening and the Russian interference it could have gone the other way? I do not know if this election is going to be close, but the identity of the Democrat candidate will probably have less effect barring a huge gaff or rally than the state of the economy or the effects of Corona virus come election day. If you disagree that's fine, but I'd be interested to know why. | |||
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"Biden seems to have captured a significant chunk of the black vote and the middle ground" its basically the "obama" coalition... which is black voters...plus college educated white voters... plus suburban women sanders has a "black person" problem... its what killed him in 2016 where clinton crushed him in the south, and he still has that issue now which showed up big time last night.... looking back... sunday kinda showed up why bernie is where he is... the day after south carolina, Biden took the day off campaigning and went to events commemorating what happened in Selma, Alabama... Bernie went off Campaigning to California | |||
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"As in the UK - comrade bernie and his far left socialism has been totally rejected (for now). " yet more evidence that the world has gone a litle bit mad when a moderate social democrat gets called a far left socialist | |||
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"Bloomberg has stood down. Not surprising. Money doesn't always talk then. He said that he would keep spending money to get Trump out so it will be interesting to see if that remains the case." Bloomberg will..... all his staff are paid up till the end of the year, and he probably has the best pure "data operation" out there.... best thing he and the DNC can do it to put that money to use into targeting down-ballot races in the house/senate. let biden deal with the fundraising for his own campaign and his super-pac | |||
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"As in the UK - comrade bernie and his far left socialism has been totally rejected (for now). yet more evidence that the world has gone a litle bit mad when a moderate social democrat gets called a far left socialist" "Moderate" | |||
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"As in the UK - comrade bernie and his far left socialism has been totally rejected (for now). yet more evidence that the world has gone a litle bit mad when a moderate social democrat gets called a far left socialist "Moderate" "You appear a little set in your opinions regardless of the information available to you. If you scroll up you can see how accurate your opinion on immigration is. | |||
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"Seems theres a few in here who fell for Comrade Bernie snake oil. The guy has done nothing in his entire career but slag off millionaires until he became one. A total creep. Some think hes moderate !! Oh boy, how the Overton window has shifted. Thank God for Mr "what planet am I on?" Biden "Did you see him introducing his wife as his sister? | |||
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"As in the UK - comrade bernie and his far left socialism has been totally rejected (for now). yet more evidence that the world has gone a litle bit mad when a moderate social democrat gets called a far left socialist "Moderate" "OK I'll bite - I like a good laugh like anyone Take his top 4 policy priorities ( healthcare, living wage, free higher education in public universities and serious action on climate change) explain why: A. they aren't moderate B. They represent "hard left" socialism and I'll promise to read your answer with a straight face right to the end | |||
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"For America - Sanders is far left" The American media portray him as far left. "Socialism" is a dirty word in the states. He gets similar treatment to Corbyn over here. If you look at the policies. None of them are "hard left". As pointed out above. It's all media spin. | |||
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"For America - Sanders is far left" Agreed - but it's about time they joined the civilised world | |||
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"For America - Sanders is far left Agreed - but it's about time they joined the civilised world " Yes they do. But I’ve spent quite a bit of time in Texas and the rust bucket and that aspiration is a long time in the future | |||
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"https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-election/joe-biden-iraq-war-veterans-george-bush-a9380076.html?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf CreepyJoe Biden is going to get dominated in the debates. The more I see of these clips of Joe calling people names and stumbling over interactions the more you wonder what are people thinking voting for him over Bernie. " probably because he is still more coherant in a debate than trump.... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lNtbjnUrwO4 | |||
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"https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-election/joe-biden-iraq-war-veterans-george-bush-a9380076.html?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf CreepyJoe Biden is going to get dominated in the debates. The more I see of these clips of Joe calling people names and stumbling over interactions the more you wonder what are people thinking voting for him over Bernie. probably because he is still more coherant in a debate than trump.... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lNtbjnUrwO4 " i apologise... this is a much better version!!!
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"https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-election/joe-biden-iraq-war-veterans-george-bush-a9380076.html?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf CreepyJoe Biden is going to get dominated in the debates. The more I see of these clips of Joe calling people names and stumbling over interactions the more you wonder what are people thinking voting for him over Bernie. probably because he is still more coherant in a debate than trump.... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lNtbjnUrwO4 " That’s the counter argument one idiot is better than another at coherence? Biden has concerning issues and you know it.
Did Trevor Noah also contribute to the 12 minute montage of Creepy Joe’s behaviour?
Just seen the clip of Biden offering the Detroit union worker outside and shushing the hell out of his female aid. Real nice guy. | |||
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"https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-election/joe-biden-iraq-war-veterans-george-bush-a9380076.html?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf CreepyJoe Biden is going to get dominated in the debates. The more I see of these clips of Joe calling people names and stumbling over interactions the more you wonder what are people thinking voting for him over Bernie. probably because he is still more coherant in a debate than trump.... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lNtbjnUrwO4 That’s the counter argument one idiot is better than another at coherence? Biden has concerning issues and you know it.
Did Trevor Noah also contribute to the 12 minute montage of Creepy Joe’s behaviour?
Just seen the clip of Biden offering the Detroit union worker outside and shushing the hell out of his female aid. Real nice guy. "The words coming out of Biden's mouth about Coronavirus seem infinitely more coherent than Trump's. So yes, as democracy in the US provides a choice between two idiots you pick the one that will do less harm don't you? | |||
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"https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-election/joe-biden-iraq-war-veterans-george-bush-a9380076.html?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf CreepyJoe Biden is going to get dominated in the debates. The more I see of these clips of Joe calling people names and stumbling over interactions the more you wonder what are people thinking voting for him over Bernie. probably because he is still more coherant in a debate than trump.... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lNtbjnUrwO4 That’s the counter argument one idiot is better than another at coherence? Biden has concerning issues and you know it.
Did Trevor Noah also contribute to the 12 minute montage of Creepy Joe’s behaviour?
Just seen the clip of Biden offering the Detroit union worker outside and shushing the hell out of his female aid. Real nice guy.
The words coming out of Biden's mouth about Coronavirus seem infinitely more coherent than Trump's.
So yes, as democracy in the US provides a choice between two idiots you pick the one that will do less harm don't you?"At least we are on the same page they are both idiots. | |||
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"https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-election/joe-biden-iraq-war-veterans-george-bush-a9380076.html?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf CreepyJoe Biden is going to get dominated in the debates. The more I see of these clips of Joe calling people names and stumbling over interactions the more you wonder what are people thinking voting for him over Bernie. probably because he is still more coherant in a debate than trump.... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lNtbjnUrwO4 That’s the counter argument one idiot is better than another at coherence? Biden has concerning issues and you know it.
Did Trevor Noah also contribute to the 12 minute montage of Creepy Joe’s behaviour?
Just seen the clip of Biden offering the Detroit union worker outside and shushing the hell out of his female aid. Real nice guy.
The words coming out of Biden's mouth about Coronavirus seem infinitely more coherent than Trump's.
So yes, as democracy in the US provides a choice between two idiots you pick the one that will do less harm don't you?
At least we are on the same page they are both idiots. "Yep. The Biden version may at least be more stable though. I also get the sense that he has some overall intention, however bumbling, to do something for someone other than himself. | |||
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"i think the audacity of trump supporters to call biden "creepy" is huge.... so lets tell people what actually happened.... a few ladies complained they felt uncomfortable with him being overly-tactile at times... not one of them said there was anything sexual in it at all..... see thats a smear!!! so to compare biden to trumps history of alledged sexual assaults (remember if you are famous you can touch them in the pussy!!!!) you really want to go there?" Both Trump and Biden are associated with Jeffrey Epstein. | |||
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"I can see him winning the nomination. Super Tuesday will be interesting " Hillary Clinton will be the nominee. | |||
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"Biden is awful. He doesn't stand for anything and he can barely express himself. Wouldn't be surprised at all if Trump beats him easily. Sad times." Great times. Dems need to be destroyed at the next US election. Hopefully by a landslide | |||
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"Biden is awful. He doesn't stand for anything and he can barely express himself. Wouldn't be surprised at all if Trump beats him easily. Sad times. Great times. Dems need to be destroyed at the next US election. Hopefully by a landslide "You want more Trump? | |||
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"Biden is awful. He doesn't stand for anything and he can barely express himself. Wouldn't be surprised at all if Trump beats him easily. Sad times. Great times. Dems need to be destroyed at the next US election. Hopefully by a landslide
You want more Trump?"Yes I do. Dem party (run by the Clinton's) cheated Bernie Sanders in 2016 and have done nothing to change in the last few years. If they lose massively this year, then maybe, just maybe... They will do some self analysis and sort themselves out. If you cannot see this, then check yourself before you wreck yourself lol | |||
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"Seems there is now a very serious allegation now being made against Biden. "Against child sniffing, lady fondling, bum patting Joe Biden? Is it about the hair smelling of females young and old? What's the bizz? | |||
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"Seems there is now a very serious allegation now being made against Biden.
Against child sniffing, lady fondling, bum patting Joe Biden?
Is it about the hair smelling of females young and old?
What's the bizz? "Nope a sexual assault. It’s on Vox if you google it. | |||
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"Seems there is now a very serious allegation now being made against Biden.
Against child sniffing, lady fondling, bum patting Joe Biden?
Is it about the hair smelling of females young and old?
What's the bizz?
Nope a sexual assault. It’s on Vox if you google it. "He needs to employ salmon,s lawyers. | |||
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"Seems there is now a very serious allegation now being made against Biden.
Against child sniffing, lady fondling, bum patting Joe Biden?
Is it about the hair smelling of females young and old?
What's the bizz?
Nope a sexual assault. It’s on Vox if you google it. He needs to employ salmon,s lawyers. "Or pay then off. Worked for Trump. | |||
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"Seems there is now a very serious allegation now being made against Biden.
Against child sniffing, lady fondling, bum patting Joe Biden?
Is it about the hair smelling of females young and old?
What's the bizz?
Nope a sexual assault. It’s on Vox if you google it. He needs to employ salmon,s lawyers.
Or pay then off. Worked for Trump."Sad isn’t it swapping one for another. | |||
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"Bernie Sanders has chucked it in. Biden now going to go against Trump. Another socialist dream that's died. " not really.... because of the situation now he may end up getting a lot of the stuff he wants anyway... such as the 15 dollar minimum wage, the huge infrustructure spending projects ect.... the only thing he wont get is medicare 4 all.... in fact being in the senate he will probably get a better say in that at this point in time... | |||
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"I can see him winning the nomination. Super Tuesday will be interesting " With Bernie dropping out its Biden v trump. But honestly .. biden is not well, he clearly has dementia. Its cruel and very sad watching him destroy himself every single time he talks. | |||
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"trumps going into meltdown mode... probably because he has just figured in one swift move he has probably lost both pennsylvania and michigan and north carolina and virginia.... wisconsin will be a toss up... this now put probably arizona and georgia in play as well.... bernie getting out his early now also means barrack and michelle obama can now get into biden's campaign to get out the vote...." You really talk a lot of rubbish at times fella. Everything you say is from far left spin from CNN , MSNPC or the outrage mob on Twitter. And no one cares about the child drone bomber or his mrs. | |||
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"Is this the guy that's just had to publicly apologise after insulting black people." yeah... the 10 black republicans were mad!!!!! really mad!!!
okay... i jest... but a poling firm did a poll of how black people were "likely" to vote....
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"Is this the guy that's just had to publicly apologise after insulting black people." No he just questioned people’s blackness if they vote for the other idiot. This time on one of the most influential radio show for young black votes. He’s out of his depth he’s too old and makes too many mistakes. We laugh in this country about the last elections choices but the US got a real Sophie’s choice coming up. | |||
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"after charlottesville, i would question any black person voting for Trump... after the colin kaepernick stuff, i would question any black person voting for Trump.... after attacks on people like elijah cummins before his death, i would question any black person voting for trump.... i don't think as such is was a bad thing to say.. the messenger was wrong " The messenger was wrong | |||
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