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"All seems to be very quiet on the reporting of the flooding here in UK. Colossal flood damage and cost, yet the news seems remarkably subdued about it considering the coverage of the floods in early December. At that time Jo Swinson, Jeremy Corbyn and Boris Johnson were in Yorkshire and the Humber and the flooding was honoured with a Government Cobra meeting. Roll on three months later and is it a case of “fuck the floods” nothing to gain from publicising the plight of thousands??" Very cynical | |||
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"All seems to be very quiet on the reporting of the flooding here in UK. Colossal flood damage and cost, yet the news seems remarkably subdued about it considering the coverage of the floods in early December. At that time Jo Swinson, Jeremy Corbyn and Boris Johnson were in Yorkshire and the Humber and the flooding was honoured with a Government Cobra meeting. Roll on three months later and is it a case of “fuck the floods” nothing to gain from publicising the plight of thousands??" Of course. There isn't an election to win. Why would Johnson and co give a damn? most media is too busy fawning over the plight of celebrities and royals that they have spent all their time hounding. -Matt | |||
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"Floods - England - Laughable . come 5 months time in August there will be water shortages and hose bans on South of England . are you guys really switched on? should you not be saving this water that is available right now, no, like your existing water supplies and cracked water supply pipes, you will just let it flow away into the soil . " It's the nimbly's fault if a water company wanted to build a new reservoir to store water there would be huge protests etc etc, they then complain about hose pipe bans | |||
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"Floods - England - Laughable . come 5 months time in August there will be water shortages and hose bans on South of England . are you guys really switched on? should you not be saving this water that is available right now, no, like your existing water supplies and cracked water supply pipes, you will just let it flow away into the soil . It's the nimbly's fault if a water company wanted to build a new reservoir to store water there would be huge protests etc etc, they then complain about hose pipe bans" If you live in England, you are effected and you do nothing about this yourself, then everyone who takes no action is to blame | |||
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"we live in england it rains a lot no matter who is running the country they would be about as much use as boris is. this is the result of the last 20 odd years of rivers not being dredged.they fill up with silt and all other sirts of crap so cant take the volumes of water they used to be able to.dont help that plenty of housing has been built on flood plains.theres a clue in the name" Also, many river keepers or "Waterway management technicians".... were laid off as austerity gripped. With no one to keep seasonal winterbournes etc clear they can't take water away effectively. | |||
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"Management of waterways and rivers used to be looked after by landowners, farmers etc. Legislation from the EU surrounding flora and fauna protection outlawed these works and from 2006 these waterways weren't dredged and the floods of 2012 and 2014 resulted. Since then dredging has resumed and the Somerset Levels have functioned and not flooded. It's not a question of £££ its' common sense water management by people with expert knowledge not computer operatives in the Environment Agency." Winterbournes don't get dredged. But i agree with your point. | |||
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"Management of waterways and rivers used to be looked after by landowners, farmers etc. Legislation from the EU surrounding flora and fauna protection outlawed these works and from 2006 these waterways weren't dredged and the floods of 2012 and 2014 resulted. Since then dredging has resumed and the Somerset Levels have functioned and not flooded. It's not a question of £££ its' common sense water management by people with expert knowledge not computer operatives in the Environment Agency." Dredging was never outlawed by the EU. | |||
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"Management of waterways and rivers used to be looked after by landowners, farmers etc. Legislation from the EU surrounding flora and fauna protection outlawed these works and from 2006 these waterways weren't dredged and the floods of 2012 and 2014 resulted. Since then dredging has resumed and the Somerset Levels have functioned and not flooded. It's not a question of £££ its' common sense water management by people with expert knowledge not computer operatives in the Environment Agency. Dredging was never outlawed by the EU. " Read the Waterwork Framework Directive. Dredging banned all but in name. More stupid stupid EU interfering red tape | |||
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"Management of waterways and rivers used to be looked after by landowners, farmers etc. Legislation from the EU surrounding flora and fauna protection outlawed these works and from 2006 these waterways weren't dredged and the floods of 2012 and 2014 resulted. Since then dredging has resumed and the Somerset Levels have functioned and not flooded. It's not a question of £££ its' common sense water management by people with expert knowledge not computer operatives in the Environment Agency. Dredging was never outlawed by the EU. Read the Waterwork Framework Directive. Dredging banned all but in name. More stupid stupid EU interfering red tape" A dredging is not always effective in reducing flood water levels. It also damages plants and animals living in the river and can cause other problems such as increased erosion and higher flood risk downstream. You can blame yourself for your misinformation and wrong knowledge  | |||
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"Management of waterways and rivers used to be looked after by landowners, farmers etc. Legislation from the EU surrounding flora and fauna protection outlawed these works and from 2006 these waterways weren't dredged and the floods of 2012 and 2014 resulted. Since then dredging has resumed and the Somerset Levels have functioned and not flooded. It's not a question of £££ its' common sense water management by people with expert knowledge not computer operatives in the Environment Agency. Dredging was never outlawed by the EU. Read the Waterwork Framework Directive. Dredging banned all but in name. More stupid stupid EU interfering red tape" I’ve read it. I read it when this story appeared a few years ago during floods. I’ve read it again since then. And dredging was never outlawed by the EU. | |||
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"Management of waterways and rivers used to be looked after by landowners, farmers etc. Legislation from the EU surrounding flora and fauna protection outlawed these works and from 2006 these waterways weren't dredged and the floods of 2012 and 2014 resulted. Since then dredging has resumed and the Somerset Levels have functioned and not flooded. It's not a question of £££ its' common sense water management by people with expert knowledge not computer operatives in the Environment Agency. Dredging was never outlawed by the EU. Read the Waterwork Framework Directive. Dredging banned all but in name. More stupid stupid EU interfering red tape A dredging is not always effective in reducing flood water levels. It also damages plants and animals living in the river and can cause other problems such as increased erosion and higher flood risk downstream. You can blame yourself for your misinformation and wrong knowledge "While dredging doesn't always stop flooding not dredging always makes it worse. If the EA took notice of those who live and work by rivers they would be in a far better position to take action that would reduce problems. | |||
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"Floods - England - Laughable . come 5 months time in August there will be water shortages and hose bans on South of England . are you guys really switched on? should you not be saving this water that is available right now, no, like your existing water supplies and cracked water supply pipes, you will just let it flow away into the soil . It's the nimbly's fault if a water company wanted to build a new reservoir to store water there would be huge protests etc etc, they then complain about hose pipe bans" So true | |||
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"Incidentally the dastardly EU offered flood defence/aid money to the UK last year. The tories refused it. I suppose it didn’t fit in with their ‘evil europe’ narrative. " Exactly | |||
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"Management of waterways and rivers used to be looked after by landowners, farmers etc. Legislation from the EU surrounding flora and fauna protection outlawed these works and from 2006 these waterways weren't dredged and the floods of 2012 and 2014 resulted. Since then dredging has resumed and the Somerset Levels have functioned and not flooded. It's not a question of £££ its' common sense water management by people with expert knowledge not computer operatives in the Environment Agency. Dredging was never outlawed by the EU. Read the Waterwork Framework Directive. Dredging banned all but in name. More stupid stupid EU interfering red tape A dredging is not always effective in reducing flood water levels. It also damages plants and animals living in the river and can cause other problems such as increased erosion and higher flood risk downstream. You can blame yourself for your misinformation and wrong knowledge
While dredging doesn't always stop flooding not dredging always makes it worse. If the EA took notice of those who live and work by rivers they would be in a far better position to take action that would reduce problems."Why you blame EU? If it snows tomorrow will it be the EU's fault? Or are you so blinded by hatred and lies that you can't see where the real problem is? I bet on the second option. | |||
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" Read the Waterwork Framework Directive. Dredging banned all but in name. More stupid stupid EU interfering red tape A dredging is not always effective in reducing flood water levels. It also damages plants and animals living in the river and can cause other problems such as increased erosion and higher flood risk downstream. You can blame yourself for your misinformation and wrong knowledge
While dredging doesn't always stop flooding not dredging always makes it worse. If the EA took notice of those who live and work by rivers they would be in a far better position to take action that would reduce problems.
Why you blame EU? If it snows tomorrow will it be the EU's fault? Or are you so blinded by hatred and lies that you can't see where the real problem is?
I bet on the second option."Who blamed the EU ? I said it was the EA, perhaps it is you who is blinded | |||
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"Management of waterways and rivers used to be looked after by landowners, farmers etc. Legislation from the EU surrounding flora and fauna protection outlawed these works and from 2006 these waterways weren't dredged and the floods of 2012 and 2014 resulted. Since then dredging has resumed and the Somerset Levels have functioned and not flooded. It's not a question of £££ its' common sense water management by people with expert knowledge not computer operatives in the Environment Agency." | |||
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" Read the Waterwork Framework Directive. Dredging banned all but in name. More stupid stupid EU interfering red tape A dredging is not always effective in reducing flood water levels. It also damages plants and animals living in the river and can cause other problems such as increased erosion and higher flood risk downstream. You can blame yourself for your misinformation and wrong knowledge
While dredging doesn't always stop flooding not dredging always makes it worse. If the EA took notice of those who live and work by rivers they would be in a far better position to take action that would reduce problems.
Why you blame EU? If it snows tomorrow will it be the EU's fault? Or are you so blinded by hatred and lies that you can't see where the real problem is?
I bet on the second option.
Who blamed the EU ? I said it was the EA, perhaps it is you who is blinded"My mistake for which I'm sorry. I read too quickly because I am at work. Sorry again. | |||
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" Read the Waterwork Framework Directive. Dredging banned all but in name. More stupid stupid EU interfering red tape A dredging is not always effective in reducing flood water levels. It also damages plants and animals living in the river and can cause other problems such as increased erosion and higher flood risk downstream. You can blame yourself for your misinformation and wrong knowledge
While dredging doesn't always stop flooding not dredging always makes it worse. If the EA took notice of those who live and work by rivers they would be in a far better position to take action that would reduce problems.
Why you blame EU? If it snows tomorrow will it be the EU's fault? Or are you so blinded by hatred and lies that you can't see where the real problem is?
I bet on the second option.
Who blamed the EU ? I said it was the EA, perhaps it is you who is blinded
My mistake for which I'm sorry. I read too quickly because I am at work. Sorry again. "No problem we all do it at times | |||
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"Management of waterways and rivers used to be looked after by landowners, farmers etc. Legislation from the EU surrounding flora and fauna protection outlawed these works and from 2006 these waterways weren't dredged and the floods of 2012 and 2014 resulted. Since then dredging has resumed and the Somerset Levels have functioned and not flooded. It's not a question of £££ its' common sense water management by people with expert knowledge not computer operatives in the Environment Agency. Dredging was never outlawed by the EU. Read the Waterwork Framework Directive. Dredging banned all but in name. More stupid stupid EU interfering red tape A dredging is not always effective in reducing flood water levels. It also damages plants and animals living in the river and can cause other problems such as increased erosion and higher flood risk downstream. You can blame yourself for your misinformation and wrong knowledge
While dredging doesn't always stop flooding not dredging always makes it worse. If the EA took notice of those who live and work by rivers they would be in a far better position to take action that would reduce problems.
Why you blame EU? If it snows tomorrow will it be the EU's fault? Or are you so blinded by hatred and lies that you can't see where the real problem is?
I bet on the second option."Lol turns out it was YOU who was blinded! | |||
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"Incidentally the dastardly EU offered flood defence/aid money to the UK last year. The tories refused it. I suppose it didn’t fit in with their ‘evil europe’ narrative. " Flood defences don't help those down steam, or up steam. See Fishlake for instance. | |||
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"Management of waterways and rivers used to be looked after by landowners, farmers etc. Legislation from the EU surrounding flora and fauna protection outlawed these works and from 2006 these waterways weren't dredged and the floods of 2012 and 2014 resulted. Since then dredging has resumed and the Somerset Levels have functioned and not flooded. It's not a question of £££ its' common sense water management by people with expert knowledge not computer operatives in the Environment Agency. Dredging was never outlawed by the EU. Read the Waterwork Framework Directive. Dredging banned all but in name. More stupid stupid EU interfering red tape A dredging is not always effective in reducing flood water levels. It also damages plants and animals living in the river and can cause other problems such as increased erosion and higher flood risk downstream. You can blame yourself for your misinformation and wrong knowledge
While dredging doesn't always stop flooding not dredging always makes it worse. If the EA took notice of those who live and work by rivers they would be in a far better position to take action that would reduce problems.
Why you blame EU? If it snows tomorrow will it be the EU's fault? Or are you so blinded by hatred and lies that you can't see where the real problem is?
I bet on the second option."oh dear. | |||
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"Management of waterways and rivers used to be looked after by landowners, farmers etc. Legislation from the EU surrounding flora and fauna protection outlawed these works and from 2006 these waterways weren't dredged and the floods of 2012 and 2014 resulted. Since then dredging has resumed and the Somerset Levels have functioned and not flooded. It's not a question of £££ its' common sense water management by people with expert knowledge not computer operatives in the Environment Agency. Dredging was never outlawed by the EU. Read the Waterwork Framework Directive. Dredging banned all but in name. More stupid stupid EU interfering red tape A dredging is not always effective in reducing flood water levels. It also damages plants and animals living in the river and can cause other problems such as increased erosion and higher flood risk downstream. You can blame yourself for your misinformation and wrong knowledge
While dredging doesn't always stop flooding not dredging always makes it worse. If the EA took notice of those who live and work by rivers they would be in a far better position to take action that would reduce problems."It’s common sense. But not to eco loony lefties | |||
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"Incidentally the dastardly EU offered flood defence/aid money to the UK last year. The tories refused it. I suppose it didn’t fit in with their ‘evil europe’ narrative. Flood defences don't help those down steam, or up steam. See Fishlake for instance. " Aid money helps though, no? | |||
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"Management of waterways and rivers used to be looked after by landowners, farmers etc. Legislation from the EU surrounding flora and fauna protection outlawed these works and from 2006 these waterways weren't dredged and the floods of 2012 and 2014 resulted. Since then dredging has resumed and the Somerset Levels have functioned and not flooded. It's not a question of £££ its' common sense water management by people with expert knowledge not computer operatives in the Environment Agency. Dredging was never outlawed by the EU. Read the Waterwork Framework Directive. Dredging banned all but in name. More stupid stupid EU interfering red tape A dredging is not always effective in reducing flood water levels. It also damages plants and animals living in the river and can cause other problems such as increased erosion and higher flood risk downstream. You can blame yourself for your misinformation and wrong knowledge
While dredging doesn't always stop flooding not dredging always makes it worse. If the EA took notice of those who live and work by rivers they would be in a far better position to take action that would reduce problems.
Why you blame EU? If it snows tomorrow will it be the EU's fault? Or are you so blinded by hatred and lies that you can't see where the real problem is?
I bet on the second option.oh dear. "Wrote someone who never made a mistake | |||
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"Management of waterways and rivers used to be looked after by landowners, farmers etc. Legislation from the EU surrounding flora and fauna protection outlawed these works and from 2006 these waterways weren't dredged and the floods of 2012 and 2014 resulted. Since then dredging has resumed and the Somerset Levels have functioned and not flooded. It's not a question of £££ its' common sense water management by people with expert knowledge not computer operatives in the Environment Agency. Dredging was never outlawed by the EU. Read the Waterwork Framework Directive. Dredging banned all but in name. More stupid stupid EU interfering red tape A dredging is not always effective in reducing flood water levels. It also damages plants and animals living in the river and can cause other problems such as increased erosion and higher flood risk downstream. You can blame yourself for your misinformation and wrong knowledge
While dredging doesn't always stop flooding not dredging always makes it worse. If the EA took notice of those who live and work by rivers they would be in a far better position to take action that would reduce problems.
Why you blame EU? If it snows tomorrow will it be the EU's fault? Or are you so blinded by hatred and lies that you can't see where the real problem is?
I bet on the second option.
Lol turns out it was YOU who was blinded! "Wrote someone who never made a mistake | |||
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"Management of waterways and rivers used to be looked after by landowners, farmers etc. Legislation from the EU surrounding flora and fauna protection outlawed these works and from 2006 these waterways weren't dredged and the floods of 2012 and 2014 resulted. Since then dredging has resumed and the Somerset Levels have functioned and not flooded. It's not a question of £££ its' common sense water management by people with expert knowledge not computer operatives in the Environment Agency. Dredging was never outlawed by the EU. " . Whether it was outlawed may be a matter of opinion . The end result of the policy is to make dredging more difficult and the prohibit it in certain circumstances . ile the European Commission has said that dredging is not banned by EU legislation, in effect member states are prohibited from undertaking dredging if it disturbs certain habitats which can then lead to a breach of the EU Water Framework Directive. The directive, which was introduced in 2000, aims to ensure environmental and ecological standards in water. While the directive includes the possibility of exceptions due to unforeseen circumstances such as flooding or drought, this does not apply to water management policies undertaken in advance of flooding events. In a statement, the commission underlined its opposition to dredging as the de facto response to flooding, noting that it can result in the problem being pushed downstream. “Dredging is not always the solution for flooding,” a spokeswoman said. “It may help to sort out a local problem but it may also transport the problem downstream, sometimes from rural to urban areas where the damage on properties and economic activities can be much higher. Therefore the basin-wide approach included in EU policies is essential to find effective and long-term solutions.” Fine Gael MEP for Ireland South Sean Kelly said he believed dredging should be considered as a response to the flooding. “I think all options now need to be considered. There will have to be a reassessment of how we handle floodings. The one size fits all model that is used across all countries in Europe doesn’t work.” | |||
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"Management of waterways and rivers used to be looked after by landowners, farmers etc. Legislation from the EU surrounding flora and fauna protection outlawed these works and from 2006 these waterways weren't dredged and the floods of 2012 and 2014 resulted. Since then dredging has resumed and the Somerset Levels have functioned and not flooded. It's not a question of £££ its' common sense water management by people with expert knowledge not computer operatives in the Environment Agency. Dredging was never outlawed by the EU. . Whether it was outlawed may be a matter of opinion . The end result of the policy is to make dredging more difficult and the prohibit it in certain circumstances . ile the European Commission has said that dredging is not banned by EU legislation, in effect member states are prohibited from undertaking dredging if it disturbs certain habitats which can then lead to a breach of the EU Water Framework Directive. The directive, which was introduced in 2000, aims to ensure environmental and ecological standards in water. While the directive includes the possibility of exceptions due to unforeseen circumstances such as flooding or drought, this does not apply to water management policies undertaken in advance of flooding events. In a statement, the commission underlined its opposition to dredging as the de facto response to flooding, noting that it can result in the problem being pushed downstream. “Dredging is not always the solution for flooding,” a spokeswoman said. “It may help to sort out a local problem but it may also transport the problem downstream, sometimes from rural to urban areas where the damage on properties and economic activities can be much higher. Therefore the basin-wide approach included in EU policies is essential to find effective and long-term solutions.” Fine Gael MEP for Ireland South Sean Kelly said he believed dredging should be considered as a response to the flooding. “I think all options now need to be considered. There will have to be a reassessment of how we handle floodings. The one size fits all model that is used across all countries in Europe doesn’t work.”" But dredging has resumed in this country in recent years, which demonstrably proves that dredging has not been outlawed by the EU. | |||
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"Our masters in Brussels, in thrall to the green lobby, pushed through the European Water Framework Directive which demands that rivers are kept in “undisturbed natural conditions” with “good ecological status”. Heaven forfend that humans intervene to make things safer. It used to be that landowners would dredge their own area. In the last century that duty was given to river boards made up of farmers, landowners and other locals. Then in 2000 the demand of the European Water Framework Directive that rivers are kept in undisturbed natural conditions transferred responsibility again to Landowners. But – and here is the rub – no one is allowed to dredge without permission from the Environment Agency. And because the Environment Agency is signed up to the EU’s green agenda it rarely allows dredging. Worse, on the rare occasions the Environment Agency bureaucrats do allow dredging the silt, sand and gravel dug up must be labelled as “controlled waste” so it can no longer be left on the riverbanks. And that makes it hugely expensive. " So we’re agreed that dredging hasn’t been outlawed, then? Jolly good. | |||
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"Our masters in Brussels, in thrall to the green lobby, pushed through the European Water Framework Directive which demands that rivers are kept in “undisturbed natural conditions” with “good ecological status”. Heaven forfend that humans intervene to make things safer. It used to be that landowners would dredge their own area. In the last century that duty was given to river boards made up of farmers, landowners and other locals. Then in 2000 the demand of the European Water Framework Directive that rivers are kept in undisturbed natural conditions transferred responsibility again to Landowners. But – and here is the rub – no one is allowed to dredge without permission from the Environment Agency. And because the Environment Agency is signed up to the EU’s green agenda it rarely allows dredging. Worse, on the rare occasions the Environment Agency bureaucrats do allow dredging the silt, sand and gravel dug up must be labelled as “controlled waste” so it can no longer be left on the riverbanks. And that makes it hugely expensive. So we’re agreed that dredging hasn’t been outlawed, then? Jolly good. "Dredging itself may not be outlawed but to comply with the legislation it is either impossible to undertake or prohibitely expensive. To all intents and purposes it is banned. | |||
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"Our masters in Brussels, in thrall to the green lobby, pushed through the European Water Framework Directive which demands that rivers are kept in “undisturbed natural conditions” with “good ecological status”. Heaven forfend that humans intervene to make things safer. It used to be that landowners would dredge their own area. In the last century that duty was given to river boards made up of farmers, landowners and other locals. Then in 2000 the demand of the European Water Framework Directive that rivers are kept in undisturbed natural conditions transferred responsibility again to Landowners. But – and here is the rub – no one is allowed to dredge without permission from the Environment Agency. And because the Environment Agency is signed up to the EU’s green agenda it rarely allows dredging. Worse, on the rare occasions the Environment Agency bureaucrats do allow dredging the silt, sand and gravel dug up must be labelled as “controlled waste” so it can no longer be left on the riverbanks. And that makes it hugely expensive. So we’re agreed that dredging hasn’t been outlawed, then? Jolly good. Dredging itself may not be outlawed but to comply with the legislation it is either impossible to undertake or prohibitely expensive. To all intents and purposes it is banned. "Thank you. Someone who knows what they are talking about | |||
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"Our masters in Brussels, in thrall to the green lobby, pushed through the European Water Framework Directive which demands that rivers are kept in “undisturbed natural conditions” with “good ecological status”. Heaven forfend that humans intervene to make things safer. It used to be that landowners would dredge their own area. In the last century that duty was given to river boards made up of farmers, landowners and other locals. Then in 2000 the demand of the European Water Framework Directive that rivers are kept in undisturbed natural conditions transferred responsibility again to Landowners. But – and here is the rub – no one is allowed to dredge without permission from the Environment Agency. And because the Environment Agency is signed up to the EU’s green agenda it rarely allows dredging. Worse, on the rare occasions the Environment Agency bureaucrats do allow dredging the silt, sand and gravel dug up must be labelled as “controlled waste” so it can no longer be left on the riverbanks. And that makes it hugely expensive. So we’re agreed that dredging hasn’t been outlawed, then? Jolly good. Dredging itself may not be outlawed but to comply with the legislation it is either impossible to undertake or prohibitely expensive. To all intents and purposes it is banned. "So the dreading they do in the EU27 must be positively bankrupting those nations, right? Oh no. That’s right, it’s not. Because it’s UK govt. policy to scrimp and save and blame the EU. | |||
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