FabSwingers.com forum: Brexit...finally....

By *torm OP Man
over a year ago

ipswich

....so is anyone out tomorrow eve raising a glass to the Farage and his successful campaign to open new doors to a bright new future for the United Kingdom away from the E.U....dont all shout at once lol.....

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By *acey_RedWoman
over a year ago

Liverpool

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Nope.

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By *ervent_fervourMan
over a year ago

Halifax

Ghost town in more ways than one.

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By *hell and jWoman
over a year ago

Worksop

We,are xx

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

Can't say I will be

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By *arlomaleMan
over a year ago

darlington

Best thing to happen in decades

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Don't

Caaaaaare

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

No, a vote for brexit was for a misguided nostalgia.

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By *urning the kinkMan
over a year ago

bristol

"....so is anyone out tomorrow eve raising a glass to the Farage and his successful campaign to open new doors to a bright new future for the United Kingdom away from the E.U....dont all shout at once lol....."

FARAGE RACIST C#€T

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Nooo i cant be arsed

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

FARAGE RACIST C#€T"
no thats very harsh and offside

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By *lem-H-FandangoMan
over a year ago

salisbury

"No, a vote for brexit was for a misguided nostalgia."

I think people were worried we'd end up as fucked as Sweden is..!

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By *ssex_tomMan
over a year ago

Chelmsford

It's a journey.. let's see how it unfolds ..

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By *urning the kinkMan
over a year ago

bristol

FARAGE RACIST C#€Tno thats very harsh and offside"

Go to telly ref

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By *eannaTV/TS
over a year ago

Cwmfelifach, nr Newport

Apart from one of you that's replied here, you haven't a clue on what it was like prior, I can only just remember and I'm 60 end of next month.

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By *r_Jake70Man
over a year ago

London

I’m not at all happy about Brexit, but at least the NHS will be receiving £350 million a week from now on.

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By *lem-H-FandangoMan
over a year ago

salisbury

"I’m not at all happy about Brexit, but at least the NHS will be receiving £350 million a week from now on. "

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I’m not at all happy about Brexit, but at least the NHS will be receiving £350 million a week from now on. "

Always a silver lining eh?

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By *hekaiserMan
over a year ago

Glasgow

"I’m not at all happy about Brexit, but at least the NHS will be receiving £350 million a week from now on. "

Oh atleast all the foreign folk will be out of the country....just hope noone clicks on that I am a foreigner too.....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Having seen Jim Davidson unveiling a portrait of Farage today off the back of the flag waving bollocks yesterday I'm even more contemptuous of the whole debacle.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Brexit won the end nothings gonna stop it now just learn to live with it fuck if it all goes tits up they would have us back in a heartbeat but thats a decition for the kids and grandkids were not gonna know if its a good thing or bad for many many years

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By *ssex_tomMan
over a year ago

Chelmsford

Whats not to like ,?

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By *bi HaiveMan
Forum Mod
over a year ago

Cheeseville, Somerset

Nope.

Can't see the point either for anyone pro Brexit.

Still bound by EU law till the end of the transition period.

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By *ssex_tomMan
over a year ago

Chelmsford

Life will go on.. why the worry ?

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By *urning the kinkMan
over a year ago

bristol

Sad fair well to all our European cousins

The worlds gone fucking mad

Peace love xx

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By *ssex_tomMan
over a year ago

Chelmsford

"Sad fair well to all our European cousins

The worlds gone fucking mad

Peace love xx"

Nobody has been asked to leave surely

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By *acey_RedWoman
over a year ago

Liverpool

"Sad fair well to all our European cousins

The worlds gone fucking mad

Peace love xx

Nobody has been asked to leave surely"

No but we've suddenly had to apply for my 93 year old nan to be able to stay or she potentially could have been or denied her pension and NHS care despite having been here since the 1940s and the last time she lived in her country of birth it was under Nazi occupation.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'll be there, m8. Topped off with a drink at Tim Martin's Spoons.

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By *orbidden eastMan
over a year ago

london dodging electric scooters

I did not know it was even happening.

So make love not war please

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Boris supporters thinks it will be a paradise lol.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Fuck the EU

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Sad fair well to all our European cousins

The worlds gone fucking mad"

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By *eannaTV/TS
over a year ago

Cwmfelifach, nr Newport

"Sad fair well to all our European cousins

The worlds gone fucking mad

Peace love xx

Nobody has been asked to leave surely

Now it starts, my father came from Hungry and is in the same position he came here in 1956 he was 20 years old.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Sad fair well to all our European cousins

The worlds gone fucking mad

Peace love xx"

I'm with you mate. They sang us auld lang syne in the EU parliament meanwhile we're singing them "17 million fuck offs" I kind of hope they do get that song to number one. Spiteful as it is.

I'm resigned to it. Acceptance will come in time...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Sad fair well to all our European cousins

The worlds gone fucking mad

Peace love xx"

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By *oxy_minxWoman
over a year ago

Scotland - Aberdeen

I wont be celebrating, but neither will I be holding up a glass, it will just be a wait and see for me. Though I wont be shedding any tears either.

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By *vgloryholebs16TV/TS
over a year ago

Bristol.

I really doubt if many of us will notice any difference....and who knows what the trip would be like had we remained....It is what it is and I have totally accepted it...What will be will be.

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By *arracksCouple
over a year ago

Deal

"I’m not at all happy about Brexit, but at least the NHS will be receiving £350 million a week from now on. "

Those of us in the NHS wish this wasn't complete and utter bollocks,possibly as much as we wish Jeremy *unt didnt get his new position,ugh!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

FARAGE RACIST C#€Tno thats very harsh and offside"

Apart from mis-spelling the C word. It's pretty accurate.

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By *urning the kinkMan
over a year ago

bristol

FARAGE RACIST C#€Tno thats very harsh and offside

Apart from mis-spelling the C word. It's pretty accurate. "

My mistake

FARAGE CUNT WANKER

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By *torm OP Man
over a year ago

ipswich

I like him,he's about as racist as you aren't rude and offensive....lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

FARAGE RACIST C#€Tno thats very harsh and offside

Apart from mis-spelling the C word. It's pretty accurate.

My mistake

FARAGE CUNT WANKER

That's better.

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By *torm OP Man
over a year ago

ipswich

Maybe he should bring out a perfume...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I like him,he's about as racist as you aren't rude and offensive....lol"

All this tells us is that you likely share the same values as Farage. Which reflects badly on your character.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'll be out celebrating confirmation of recieving my Norwegian nationality and hopefully, the nice Italian girl I've asked on a date will come along and make it a overall good night, as opposed to something good, cancelling out the bad

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By *torm OP Man
over a year ago

ipswich

That's what it may tell you from the Sourh West,you don't know where you are let alone who lol

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By *oxy_minxWoman
over a year ago

Scotland - Aberdeen

What pisses me off is the word 'Democracy'

The Lid Dems choose to ignore it yet use it in their campaign, Labour said in 2017 that they wouldn't go against it, yet chose to hedge their bets by doing exactly that! And now the SNP are doing exactly the same with their 'once in a lifetime' vote for independence! It's not right, the people have spoken and it should be respected regardless of your stance!

Not just if you don't get your own way, we'll just keep doing it until we do, it's all fucking bollocks, and I for one am glad that the second indyref2 has been blocked for now!

How the fuck can these politicians stand there with a straight face and call it a democracy??

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Just another day, the world wont stop turning.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"That's what it may tell you from the Sourh West,you don't know where you are let alone who lol

Current geographical location is unrelated whatever it is you're trying to accuse me of.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Just another day, the world wont stop turning."

Well worth the billions lost to the british economy then?

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By *oolguy1989Man
over a year ago

Middlesx

Please keep it for yourself!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I love posts like this. You do know that Farages kids have applied for German passports??

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By *rench letterCouple
over a year ago

Chorley,

I love posts like this. You do know that Farages kids have applied for German passports??

What a tosser farage is a two face moron as with Johnson.

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By *ssex_tomMan
over a year ago

Chelmsford

I love posts like this. You do know that Farages kids have applied for German passports??

I think their mother is German do would they not ?

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By *ssex_tomMan
over a year ago

Chelmsford

"Just another day, the world wont stop turning.

Well worth the billions lost to the british economy then?"

Lost to the elite even..

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By *mmabluTV/TS
over a year ago

upton wirral

Glad we are leaving but not planning any celebrations not my way

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I love posts like this. You do know that Farages kids have applied for German passports??

I think their mother is German do would they not ?"

Yes their mum is German, they were born in the U.K. and have British passports. They have applied for German ones

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By *ssex_tomMan
over a year ago

Chelmsford

I love posts like this. You do know that Farages kids have applied for German passports??

I think their mother is German do would they not ?

Yes their mum is German, they were born in the U.K. and have British passports. They have applied for German ones "

As is their right...

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By *an For YouMan
over a year ago

belfast/holywood

I will mark the departure at 11 pm

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By *ony 2016Man
over a year ago

Huddersfield /derby cinemas

"I will mark the departure at 11 pm"
. But you are in Ireland , you are not really leaving , you are just pretending to leave ,, or do you mean you are marking the departure of Ireland from the rest of the UK with the Boris Border down the Irish Sea ????

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By *an For YouMan
over a year ago

belfast/holywood

"I will mark the departure at 11 pm. But you are in Ireland , you are not really leaving , you are just pretending to leave ,, or do you mean you are marking the departure of Ireland from the rest of the UK with the Boris Border down the Irish Sea ????

Get it right.... at the moment I live in NORTHERN IRELAND ( part of the United Kingdom). Which is leaving the EU. Hadn’t you heard ?

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By *ony 2016Man
over a year ago

Huddersfield /derby cinemas

Get it right.... at the moment I live in NORTHERN IRELAND ( part of the United Kingdom). Which is leaving the EU. Hadn’t you heard ?"
. Not leaving in the same way as the rest of the United Kingdom, The begining of the end of a divided Ireland , Be careful of what you wish ( or vote ) for

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Just another day, the world wont stop turning.

Well worth the billions lost to the british economy then?"

Hasn't affected me, doubt it has affected anyone on this forum although I am expecting someone will find some spurious way it has.

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By *talianduoCouple
over a year ago

Swansea

We will most certainly be raising a glass in celebration tomorrow. The UK being the first off the sinking ship, no doubt others will follow. Nigel Farage did a wonderful job over 25 years and should get the knighthood he deserves. The UK never voted to be part of a federal european state.

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By *tace 309TV/TS
over a year ago

durham

"No, a vote for brexit was for a misguided nostalgia."
give it a rest

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

You will find that the older generation that voted brexit wont be as much affected then the younger ones.

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By *lem-H-FandangoMan
over a year ago

salisbury

Going forward, who will pay for France's pension black hole?

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By *bi HaiveMan
Forum Mod
over a year ago

Cheeseville, Somerset

"Going forward, who will pay for France's pension black hole?"

France. State pensions are just that. Nothing to do with the EU.

I'm more worried about the UK's.

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By *lem-H-FandangoMan
over a year ago

salisbury

"Going forward, who will pay for France's pension black hole?

France. State pensions are just that. Nothing to do with the EU.

I'm more worried about the UK's.

I expect they'll push our retirement age up to 80 ish!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

UK students will also lose their rights like grants and free education in europe.

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By *oxychick35Couple
over a year ago

thornaby

"Boris supporters thinks it will be a paradise lol."
according to you we arnt leaving lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Going forward, who will pay for France's pension black hole?

France. State pensions are just that. Nothing to do with the EU.

I'm more worried about the UK's.

I expect they'll push our retirement age up to 80 ish!"

A brexit benefit?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"UK students will also lose their rights like grants and free education in europe."

We could have stayed in Erasmus, it’s nothing to do with the EU. The tories know it plays well to their crowd to get rid of it though.

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By *ssex_tomMan
over a year ago

Chelmsford

"Having seen Jim Davidson unveiling a portrait of Farage today off the back of the flag waving bollocks yesterday I'm even more contemptuous of the whole debacle. "

I like Jim Davidson..

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By *ercuryMan
over a year ago

Grantham

"UK students will also lose their rights like grants and free education in europe."

That's still to be negotiated. Non EU countries are free to partake in EU education schemes but have to pay to do so.

The UK educated EU students on a scale of 2 of theirs to 1 of ours on the Erasmus scheme.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"UK students will also lose their rights like grants and free education in europe.

That's still to be negotiated. Non EU countries are free to partake in EU education schemes but have to pay to do so.

The UK educated EU students on a scale of 2 of theirs to 1 of ours on the Erasmus scheme. "

My bad - I’ve just read a contradictory report that says the tories are actually committed to retaining Erasmus beyond 2020 - though they voted against making it a priority in the commons.

I hope we retain the scheme - it’s a great idea which has benefitted hundreds of thousands of students.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"UK students will also lose their rights like grants and free education in europe.

That's still to be negotiated. Non EU countries are free to partake in EU education schemes but have to pay to do so.

The UK educated EU students on a scale of 2 of theirs to 1 of ours on the Erasmus scheme.

My bad - I’ve just read a contradictory report that says the tories are actually committed to retaining Erasmus beyond 2020 - though they voted against making it a priority in the commons.

I hope we retain the scheme - it’s a great idea which has benefitted hundreds of thousands of students.

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I have heard differently thst they will lose it snd as well people from britain will lose thier right to their eu health card for emergency treatment.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"UK students will also lose their rights like grants and free education in europe.

That's still to be negotiated. Non EU countries are free to partake in EU education schemes but have to pay to do so.

The UK educated EU students on a scale of 2 of theirs to 1 of ours on the Erasmus scheme.

My bad - I’ve just read a contradictory report that says the tories are actually committed to retaining Erasmus beyond 2020 - though they voted against making it a priority in the commons.

I hope we retain the scheme - it’s a great idea which has benefitted hundreds of thousands of students.

I have heard differently thst they will lose it snd as well people from britain will lose thier right to their eu health card for emergency treatment."

Yeah I believe EHIC is definitely finished. As is the British citizens right to use any EU nation’s embassy if there’s no UK embassy available

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By *oxychick35Couple
over a year ago

thornaby

"UK students will also lose their rights like grants and free education in europe.

That's still to be negotiated. Non EU countries are free to partake in EU education schemes but have to pay to do so.

The UK educated EU students on a scale of 2 of theirs to 1 of ours on the Erasmus scheme.

My bad - I’ve just read a contradictory report that says the tories are actually committed to retaining Erasmus beyond 2020 - though they voted against making it a priority in the commons.

I hope we retain the scheme - it’s a great idea which has benefitted hundreds of thousands of students.

I have heard differently thst they will lose it snd as well people from britain will lose thier right to their eu health card for emergency treatment."
thats why we have travel insurance

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"UK students will also lose their rights like grants and free education in europe.

That's still to be negotiated. Non EU countries are free to partake in EU education schemes but have to pay to do so.

The UK educated EU students on a scale of 2 of theirs to 1 of ours on the Erasmus scheme.

My bad - I’ve just read a contradictory report that says the tories are actually committed to retaining Erasmus beyond 2020 - though they voted against making it a priority in the commons.

I hope we retain the scheme - it’s a great idea which has benefitted hundreds of thousands of students.

I have heard differently thst they will lose it snd as well people from britain will lose thier right to their eu health card for emergency treatment.thats why we have travel insurance "

Which is a poor replacement, especially to those who have existing conditions.

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By *obyn GravesTV/TS
over a year ago

1127 walnut avenue

I won't be celebrating until they've bricked up the tunnel..and placed mines in the English Channel

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By *an For YouMan
over a year ago

belfast/holywood

Perversely will be popppng the cork of some French champagne at 11 tonight lol

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By *uriousTwosomeCouple
over a year ago

Manchester

We all should remember that the only reason we get R18 porn in the UK was because of EU trading laws so I believe... we all still got our old VHS?!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

" I won't be celebrating until they've bricked up the tunnel..and placed mines in the English Channel

I have a feeling you won’t get the fortress Britain you desire.

I predict years of dissatisfaction with the Boris Brexit Britain.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"UK students will also lose their rights like grants and free education in europe.

That's still to be negotiated. Non EU countries are free to partake in EU education schemes but have to pay to do so.

The UK educated EU students on a scale of 2 of theirs to 1 of ours on the Erasmus scheme.

My bad - I’ve just read a contradictory report that says the tories are actually committed to retaining Erasmus beyond 2020 - though they voted against making it a priority in the commons.

I hope we retain the scheme - it’s a great idea which has benefitted hundreds of thousands of students.

I have heard differently thst they will lose it snd as well people from britain will lose thier right to their eu health card for emergency treatment.thats why we have travel insurance

Which is a poor replacement, especially to those who have existing conditions."
That is right it is and not just that all the eu funding to the uk and especially wales that gets the most will end as well.

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By *an For YouMan
over a year ago

belfast/holywood

At the last 2 PMQs, the PM confirmed our continuance in the scheme after Brexit

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By *an For YouMan
over a year ago

belfast/holywood

(Erasmus )

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"At the last 2 PMQs, the PM confirmed our continuance in the scheme after Brexit "

And he has a track record of sticking to his promises...

Oh wait....

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By *ssex_tomMan
over a year ago

Chelmsford

The sun will rise after Brexit..

Little will change

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Fuck the EU

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Applied for my Schengen visa already because the queue will get longer once the British people too apply.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Sad. Now we'll be tied to the US.

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By *hybloke67Man
over a year ago

ROMFORD

Finally, we are out..!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Finally, we are out..! "

What did we win?

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By *uck-RogersMan
over a year ago

Oakhill

Freedom

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Freedom

What will you be free to do tomorrow that you can’t today?

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By *hybloke67Man
over a year ago

ROMFORD

"Freedom

What will you be free to do tomorrow that you can’t today? "

If what you say is correct why have the remainers spent the last three and a half years trying to stop the UK from leaving?

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By *hybloke67Man
over a year ago

ROMFORD

"Freedom

What will you be free to do tomorrow that you can’t today? "

The UK with now be able to make its own trade deals.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Freedom

What will you be free to do tomorrow that you can’t today?

The UK with now be able to make its own trade deals."

And if you’re trying to negotiate a trade deal, is it better to do so with a potential customer base of half a billion people, or 60million?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Freedom

What will you be free to do tomorrow that you can’t today?

If what you say is correct why have the remainers spent the last three and a half years trying to stop the UK from leaving? "

Because there’s plenty of evidence that Brexit will harm the economy, and it will unarguably remove citizens rights like Freedom of movement.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

As always there are some bizarre and wonderful "facts" floating around .....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Freedom

What will you be free to do tomorrow that you can’t today?

The UK with now be able to make its own trade deals."

Incidentally any trade deals negotiated now can’t take effect until the end of transition.

We are as of 23:00 hours officially an EU law taker, not a law maker.

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By *an For YouMan
over a year ago

belfast/holywood

Harm the economy ?. How So ?

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By *hybloke67Man
over a year ago

ROMFORD

"Freedom

What will you be free to do tomorrow that you can’t today?

If what you say is correct why have the remainers spent the last three and a half years trying to stop the UK from leaving?

Because there’s plenty of evidence that Brexit will harm the economy, and it will unarguably remove citizens rights like Freedom of movement."

Fantastic, never did like freedom of movement.

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over a year ago

"Harm the economy ?. How So ?"

Ask an MP who’s seen the impact assessments that they didn’t allow the public to view.

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over a year ago

Fantastic, never did like freedom of movement. "

So you’re a fan of removing citizens rights?

That’s quite some slippery slope you’re on there, fella.

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By *hybloke67Man
over a year ago

ROMFORD

"Freedom

What will you be free to do tomorrow that you can’t today?

The UK with now be able to make its own trade deals.

And if you’re trying to negotiate a trade deal, is it better to do so with a potential customer base of half a billion people, or 60million? "

It's better to negotiate a trade deal which suits the people in the UK.

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over a year ago

"Freedom

What will you be free to do tomorrow that you can’t today?

The UK with now be able to make its own trade deals.

And if you’re trying to negotiate a trade deal, is it better to do so with a potential customer base of half a billion people, or 60million?

It's better to negotiate a trade deal which suits the people in the UK."

Like one with really good tariff free trade with the world’s largest trade bloc?

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By *hybloke67Man
over a year ago

ROMFORD

Fantastic, never did like freedom of movement.

So you’re a fan of removing citizens rights?

That’s quite some slippery slope you’re on there, fella. "

The EU took the right away of the British people of having a United Kingdom passport. So don't start that bollox.

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over a year ago

Fantastic, never did like freedom of movement.

So you’re a fan of removing citizens rights?

That’s quite some slippery slope you’re on there, fella.

The EU took the right away of the British people of having a United Kingdom passport. So don't start that bollox. "

That’s just abject nonsense.

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By *hybloke67Man
over a year ago

ROMFORD

"Freedom

What will you be free to do tomorrow that you can’t today?

The UK with now be able to make its own trade deals.

And if you’re trying to negotiate a trade deal, is it better to do so with a potential customer base of half a billion people, or 60million?

It's better to negotiate a trade deal which suits the people in the UK.

Like one with really good tariff free trade with the world’s largest trade bloc?"

Well if the EU (formally the EEC) had just remained someone we had free trade with I doubt we would have voted to leave.

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By *hybloke67Man
over a year ago

ROMFORD

Fantastic, never did like freedom of movement.

So you’re a fan of removing citizens rights?

That’s quite some slippery slope you’re on there, fella.

The EU took the right away of the British people of having a United Kingdom passport. So don't start that bollox.

That’s just abject nonsense. "

It true though isn't it.

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over a year ago

Fantastic, never did like freedom of movement.

So you’re a fan of removing citizens rights?

That’s quite some slippery slope you’re on there, fella.

The EU took the right away of the British people of having a United Kingdom passport. So don't start that bollox.

That’s just abject nonsense.

It true though isn't it."

Not at all. That’s why I called it nonsense.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Freedom

What will you be free to do tomorrow that you can’t today?

The UK with now be able to make its own trade deals.

And if you’re trying to negotiate a trade deal, is it better to do so with a potential customer base of half a billion people, or 60million?

It's better to negotiate a trade deal which suits the people in the UK.

Like one with really good tariff free trade with the world’s largest trade bloc?

Well if the EU (formally the EEC) had just remained someone we had free trade with I doubt we would have voted to leave.

The EEC was always formed with greater unity in mind. That was made clear in 1973 and again in the 1975 referendum by various speeches.

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By *hybloke67Man
over a year ago

ROMFORD

"Freedom

What will you be free to do tomorrow that you can’t today?

The UK with now be able to make its own trade deals.

And if you’re trying to negotiate a trade deal, is it better to do so with a potential customer base of half a billion people, or 60million?

It's better to negotiate a trade deal which suits the people in the UK.

Like one with really good tariff free trade with the world’s largest trade bloc?

Well if the EU (formally the EEC) had just remained someone we had free trade with I doubt we would have voted to leave.

The EEC was always formed with greater unity in mind. That was made clear in 1973 and again in the 1975 referendum by various speeches."

Well the British public decided they didn't want it. So we have now left.!

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By *hybloke67Man
over a year ago

ROMFORD

Fantastic, never did like freedom of movement.

So you’re a fan of removing citizens rights?

That’s quite some slippery slope you’re on there, fella.

The EU took the right away of the British people of having a United Kingdom passport. So don't start that bollox.

That’s just abject nonsense.

It true though isn't it.

Not at all. That’s why I called it nonsense. "

Oh really! So what does your passport currently have on it?

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over a year ago

Fantastic, never did like freedom of movement.

So you’re a fan of removing citizens rights?

That’s quite some slippery slope you’re on there, fella.

The EU took the right away of the British people of having a United Kingdom passport. So don't start that bollox.

That’s just abject nonsense.

It true though isn't it.

Not at all. That’s why I called it nonsense.

Oh really! So what does your passport currently have on it?"

The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland. What about yours?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Freedom

What will you be free to do tomorrow that you can’t today?

The UK with now be able to make its own trade deals.

And if you’re trying to negotiate a trade deal, is it better to do so with a potential customer base of half a billion people, or 60million?

It's better to negotiate a trade deal which suits the people in the UK.

Like one with really good tariff free trade with the world’s largest trade bloc?

Well if the EU (formally the EEC) had just remained someone we had free trade with I doubt we would have voted to leave.

The EEC was always formed with greater unity in mind. That was made clear in 1973 and again in the 1975 referendum by various speeches.

Well the British public decided they didn't want it. So we have now left.!"

Still have to abide by their rules though, don’t we?

Still in the single market aren’t we?

Keep your powder dry for December.

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over a year ago

Fantastic, never did like freedom of movement.

So you’re a fan of removing citizens rights?

That’s quite some slippery slope you’re on there, fella.

The EU took the right away of the British people of having a United Kingdom passport. So don't start that bollox.

That’s just abject nonsense.

It true though isn't it.

Not at all. That’s why I called it nonsense.

Oh really! So what does your passport currently have on it?

The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland. What about yours?"

I for one am just glad this didn't get personal and people got blocked over a difference of opinions

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If Farage had done his job when he was an MEP, there would be no need for Brexit.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Fantastic, never did like freedom of movement.

So you’re a fan of removing citizens rights?

That’s quite some slippery slope you’re on there, fella.

The EU took the right away of the British people of having a United Kingdom passport. So don't start that bollox.

That’s just abject nonsense.

It true though isn't it.

Not at all. That’s why I called it nonsense.

Oh really! So what does your passport currently have on it?

The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland. What about yours?

I for one am just glad this didn't get personal and people got blocked over a difference of opinions

Some people deserve to be blocked. Especially when they go snooping at other people’s profile after commenting in the forum.

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over a year ago

Fantastic, never did like freedom of movement.

So you’re a fan of removing citizens rights?

That’s quite some slippery slope you’re on there, fella.

The EU took the right away of the British people of having a United Kingdom passport. So don't start that bollox.

That’s just abject nonsense.

It true though isn't it.

Not at all. That’s why I called it nonsense.

Oh really! So what does your passport currently have on it?

The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland. What about yours?

I for one am just glad this didn't get personal and people got blocked over a difference of opinions

Some people deserve to be blocked. Especially when they go snooping at other people’s profile after commenting in the forum."

Snooping on a public forum to see who one might be conversing with?

Yeah lad you make all the sense

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By *hybloke67Man
over a year ago

ROMFORD

Fantastic, never did like freedom of movement.

So you’re a fan of removing citizens rights?

That’s quite some slippery slope you’re on there, fella.

The EU took the right away of the British people of having a United Kingdom passport. So don't start that bollox.

That’s just abject nonsense.

It true though isn't it.

Not at all. That’s why I called it nonsense.

Oh really! So what does your passport currently have on it?

The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland. What about yours?"

Mine has European Union at the top. I suspect yours does as well but you have decided omit that piece of information. !

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over a year ago

Fantastic, never did like freedom of movement.

So you’re a fan of removing citizens rights?

That’s quite some slippery slope you’re on there, fella.

The EU took the right away of the British people of having a United Kingdom passport. So don't start that bollox.

That’s just abject nonsense.

It true though isn't it.

Not at all. That’s why I called it nonsense.

Oh really! So what does your passport currently have on it?

The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland. What about yours?

Mine has European Union at the top. I suspect yours does as well but you have decided omit that piece of information. !"

Does that negate the bit that follows it then? You’ll have to explain it.

Because as I’m sure you know, leaving the EU makes the British passport more restrictive, it actually limits the freedom that brexiters like to harp on about it.

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By *hybloke67Man
over a year ago

ROMFORD

Fantastic, never did like freedom of movement.

So you’re a fan of removing citizens rights?

That’s quite some slippery slope you’re on there, fella.

The EU took the right away of the British people of having a United Kingdom passport. So don't start that bollox.

That’s just abject nonsense.

It true though isn't it.

Not at all. That’s why I called it nonsense.

Oh really! So what does your passport currently have on it?

The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland. What about yours?

Mine has European Union at the top. I suspect yours does as well but you have decided omit that piece of information. !

Does that negate the bit that follows it then? You’ll have to explain it.

Because as I’m sure you know, leaving the EU makes the British passport more restrictive, it actually limits the freedom that brexiters like to harp on about it. "

I find it strange that someone who is probably a remainer and is not to happy about the UK leaving the EU, would fail to mention that they have European Union printed at the top of their passport.!

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over a year ago

Fantastic, never did like freedom of movement.

So you’re a fan of removing citizens rights?

That’s quite some slippery slope you’re on there, fella.

The EU took the right away of the British people of having a United Kingdom passport. So don't start that bollox.

That’s just abject nonsense.

It true though isn't it.

Not at all. That’s why I called it nonsense.

Oh really! So what does your passport currently have on it?

The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland. What about yours?

Mine has European Union at the top. I suspect yours does as well but you have decided omit that piece of information. !

Does that negate the bit that follows it then? You’ll have to explain it.

Because as I’m sure you know, leaving the EU makes the British passport more restrictive, it actually limits the freedom that brexiters like to harp on about it.

I find it strange that someone who is probably a remainer and is not to happy about the UK leaving the EU, would fail to mention that they have European Union printed at the top of their passport.!"

I’m absolutely a remainer, I’m interested in knowing how the EU somehow stopped our passport being British?

It literally makes no sense.

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By *hybloke67Man
over a year ago

ROMFORD

Fantastic, never did like freedom of movement.

So you’re a fan of removing citizens rights?

That’s quite some slippery slope you’re on there, fella.

The EU took the right away of the British people of having a United Kingdom passport. So don't start that bollox.

That’s just abject nonsense.

It true though isn't it.

Not at all. That’s why I called it nonsense.

Oh really! So what does your passport currently have on it?

The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland. What about yours?

Mine has European Union at the top. I suspect yours does as well but you have decided omit that piece of information. !

Does that negate the bit that follows it then? You’ll have to explain it.

Because as I’m sure you know, leaving the EU makes the British passport more restrictive, it actually limits the freedom that brexiters like to harp on about it.

I find it strange that someone who is probably a remainer and is not to happy about the UK leaving the EU, would fail to mention that they have European Union printed at the top of their passport.!

I’m absolutely a remainer, I’m interested in knowing how the EU somehow stopped our passport being British?

It literally makes no sense."

For a start you will have to class yourself as a rejoiner from now on.! Lol

Secondly because it has European Union printed on it.

A United Kingdom passport never had that printed on it and at some point new passports will not either.

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By *orraine999Woman
over a year ago

Somewhere

"Sad. Now we'll be tied to the US. "

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over a year ago

Fantastic, never did like freedom of movement.

So you’re a fan of removing citizens rights?

That’s quite some slippery slope you’re on there, fella.

The EU took the right away of the British people of having a United Kingdom passport. So don't start that bollox.

That’s just abject nonsense.

It true though isn't it.

Not at all. That’s why I called it nonsense.

Oh really! So what does your passport currently have on it?

The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland. What about yours?

Mine has European Union at the top. I suspect yours does as well but you have decided omit that piece of information. !

Does that negate the bit that follows it then? You’ll have to explain it.

Because as I’m sure you know, leaving the EU makes the British passport more restrictive, it actually limits the freedom that brexiters like to harp on about it.

I find it strange that someone who is probably a remainer and is not to happy about the UK leaving the EU, would fail to mention that they have European Union printed at the top of their passport.!

I’m absolutely a remainer, I’m interested in knowing how the EU somehow stopped our passport being British?

It literally makes no sense.

For a start you will have to class yourself as a rejoiner from now on.! Lol

Secondly because it has European Union printed on it.

A United Kingdom passport never had that printed on it and at some point new passports will not either."

But it’s just words. And those words actually increased the freedom of that passport holder.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Fantastic, never did like freedom of movement.

So you’re a fan of removing citizens rights?

That’s quite some slippery slope you’re on there, fella.

The EU took the right away of the British people of having a United Kingdom passport. So don't start that bollox.

That’s just abject nonsense.

It true though isn't it.

Not at all. That’s why I called it nonsense.

Oh really! So what does your passport currently have on it?

The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland. What about yours?

Mine has European Union at the top. I suspect yours does as well but you have decided omit that piece of information. !

Does that negate the bit that follows it then? You’ll have to explain it.

Because as I’m sure you know, leaving the EU makes the British passport more restrictive, it actually limits the freedom that brexiters like to harp on about it.

I find it strange that someone who is probably a remainer and is not to happy about the UK leaving the EU, would fail to mention that they have European Union printed at the top of their passport.!

I’m absolutely a remainer, I’m interested in knowing how the EU somehow stopped our passport being British?

It literally makes no sense."

Is it possible for you to make an augment with descending into condescension?

I'm out there's no point arguing with children who spout conjecture as fact and try to give the impression they've had personal access to top secret documentation

Glad you blocked us, highlights your inability to remain adult about discourse.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Fantastic, never did like freedom of movement.

So you’re a fan of removing citizens rights?

That’s quite some slippery slope you’re on there, fella.

The EU took the right away of the British people of having a United Kingdom passport. So don't start that bollox.

That’s just abject nonsense.

It true though isn't it.

Not at all. That’s why I called it nonsense.

Oh really! So what does your passport currently have on it?

The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland. What about yours?

Mine has European Union at the top. I suspect yours does as well but you have decided omit that piece of information. !

Does that negate the bit that follows it then? You’ll have to explain it.

Because as I’m sure you know, leaving the EU makes the British passport more restrictive, it actually limits the freedom that brexiters like to harp on about it.

I find it strange that someone who is probably a remainer and is not to happy about the UK leaving the EU, would fail to mention that they have European Union printed at the top of their passport.!

I’m absolutely a remainer, I’m interested in knowing how the EU somehow stopped our passport being British?

It literally makes no sense.

Is it possible for you to make an augment with descending into condescension?

I'm out there's no point arguing with children who spout conjecture as fact and try to give the impression they've had personal access to top secret documentation

Glad you blocked us, highlights your inability to remain adult about discourse. "

I’ve had access to nothing. I’ve spoken to a few MP’s though - I’m a politics geek, it’s what I do.

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By *rotic-TouchTV/TS
over a year ago

doncaster

Fantastic, never did like freedom of movement.

So you’re a fan of removing citizens rights?

That’s quite some slippery slope you’re on there, fella.

The EU took the right away of the British people of having a United Kingdom passport. So don't start that bollox. "
but isn't the all new British blue passport going to be made in France ?? Seems a nonsense to me if it is

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By *ony 2016Man
over a year ago

Huddersfield /derby cinemas

Fantastic, never did like freedom of movement.

So you’re a fan of removing citizens rights?

That’s quite some slippery slope you’re on there, fella.

The EU took the right away of the British people of having a United Kingdom passport. So don't start that bollox. but isn't the all new British blue passport going to be made in France ?? Seems a nonsense to me if it is "
. Yes ,we could chose the colour of our passport while a member of the EU , we chose red , then the brexitiers decided having blue passport would be important ,what followed was the company producing the red passports in the north east of England lost the contract with the conservative government awarding the contact for the new blue passports to a firm in France ,,,,,,,on a lighter note , ironically, the winner of the 5'0'clock race at Dundalk today was a horse called ,,,, MAY REMAIN

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By *asyukMan
over a year ago

West London

"Freedom

What will you be free to do tomorrow that you can’t today?

The UK with now be able to make its own trade deals.

And if you’re trying to negotiate a trade deal, is it better to do so with a potential customer base of half a billion people, or 60million?

It's better to negotiate a trade deal which suits the people in the UK.

Like one with really good tariff free trade with the world’s largest trade bloc?

Well if the EU (formally the EEC) had just remained someone we had free trade with I doubt we would have voted to leave.

Once again, this is what we signed up for when we joined the EEC agreeing to the Treaty of Rome. Articles 2 and 3 below. What's your argument?

ARTICLE 2

The Community shall have as its task, by establishing a common market and

progressively approximating the economic policies of Member States, to promote

throughout the Community a harmonious development of economic activities, a

continuous and balanced expansion, an increase in stability, an accelerated raising of the

standard of living and closer relations between the States belonging to it.

ARTICLE 3

For the purposes set out in Article 2, the activities of the Community shall include, as

provided in this Treaty and in accordance with the timetable set out therein

(a) the elimination, as between Member States, of customs duties and of quantitative

restrictions on the import and export of goods, and of all other measures having

equivalent effect;

(b) the establishment of a common customs tariff and of a common commercial

policy towards third countries;

persons, services and capital;

(d) the adoption of a common policy in the sphere of agriculture;

(e) the adoption of a common policy in the sphere of transport;

(f) the institution of a system ensuring that competition in the common market is not

distorted;

(g) the application of procedures by which the economic policies of Member States

can he co-ordinated and disequilibria in their balances of payments remedied;

(h) the approximation of the laws of Member States to the extent required for the

proper functioning of the common market;

(i) the creation of a European Social Fund in order to improve employment

opportunities for workers and to contribute to the raising of their standard of

living;

(j) the establishment of a European Investment Bank to facilitate the economic

expansion of the Community by opening up fresh resources;

(k) the association of the overseas countries and territories in order to increase trade

and to promote jointly economic and social development.

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By *asyukMan
over a year ago

West London

"Going forward, who will pay for France's pension black hole?"

France. As it does now...or does not

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By *orksCouple25Couple
over a year ago

Leeds

"You will find that the older generation that voted brexit wont be as much affected then the younger ones."

That is the thickest comment on here by far and that is some achievement.Old people like us have children and we also have several grandchildren. Do you think we voted to Leave so we would be personally better off ? How thick is that as we will be dead in a few years.

We voted because we believe (rightly or wrongly,time will tell) that it is better for our country and therefore for our children and our grandchildren to be a sovereign and independent country in control of of our own destiny.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"You will find that the older generation that voted brexit wont be as much affected then the younger ones.

Amen ??

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By *an For YouMan
over a year ago

belfast/holywood

"You will find that the older generation that voted brexit wont be as much affected then the younger ones.

Please don’t die ... I love you xx

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By *asyukMan
over a year ago

West London

"You will find that the older generation that voted brexit wont be as much affected then the younger ones.

Whatever your logic may be, and I do not doubt that you are sincere in your beliefs, significantly more older people wanted Brexit than younger people.

65+ 64% Leave

60-64 60% Leave

25-49 46% Leave

18-24 29% Leave

However, older people will not see as much of the effect of Brexit as younger ones as they simply will not be here. That is not controversial surely?

How you define "control" relative to the demands of the USA, China and the EU is very much up for debate.

Look up Huawei for details

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By *asyukMan
over a year ago

West London

I was out and saw nobody celebrating. Quite quiet for a Friday night in London.

A few Europeans feeling pretty sad and rejected though, so that's something to celebrate, right?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"You will find that the older generation that voted brexit wont be as much affected then the younger ones.

Whatever your logic may be, and I do not doubt that you are sincere in your beliefs, significantly more older people wanted Brexit than younger people.

65+ 64% Leave

60-64 60% Leave

25-49 46% Leave

18-24 29% Leave

However, older people will not see as much of the effect of Brexit as younger ones as they simply will not be here. That is not controversial surely?

How you define "control" relative to the demands of the USA, China and the EU is very much up for debate.

Look up Huawei for details

We have total control now and are in demand from the 2 biggest economy's on the planet, we don't need no huawei 5g

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By *asyukMan
over a year ago

West London

"You will find that the older generation that voted brexit wont be as much affected then the younger ones.

Whatever your logic may be, and I do not doubt that you are sincere in your beliefs, significantly more older people wanted Brexit than younger people.

65+ 64% Leave

60-64 60% Leave

25-49 46% Leave

18-24 29% Leave

However, older people will not see as much of the effect of Brexit as younger ones as they simply will not be here. That is not controversial surely?

How you define "control" relative to the demands of the USA, China and the EU is very much up for debate.

Look up Huawei for details

We have total control now and are in demand from the 2 biggest economy's on the planet, we don't need no huawei 5g"

That was as coherent a response as I expected

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By *hocolateRodMan
over a year ago

London and over UK

I was out and saw nobody celebrating. Quite quiet for a Friday night in London.

A few Europeans feeling pretty sad and rejected though, so that's something to celebrate, right?"

No one in London celebrated or cared. In other news the mayor of Berlin said the new Tesla factory was like winnng the lottery ! The factory could have been built in the UK - but wasnt because of Brexit.

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By *hocolateRodMan
over a year ago

London and over UK

"You will find that the older generation that voted brexit wont be as much affected then the younger ones.

Whatever your logic may be, and I do not doubt that you are sincere in your beliefs, significantly more older people wanted Brexit than younger people.

65+ 64% Leave

60-64 60% Leave

25-49 46% Leave

18-24 29% Leave

However, older people will not see as much of the effect of Brexit as younger ones as they simply will not be here. That is not controversial surely?

How you define "control" relative to the demands of the USA, China and the EU is very much up for debate.

Look up Huawei for details

Well said -

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By *hocolateRodMan
over a year ago

London and over UK

"You will find that the older generation that voted brexit wont be as much affected then the younger ones.

We will never be sovereign - we just let the Chinese govt own our telco infrastructure Its just question of who you get in bet with

I am looking forward to the trade deal with India - to do a trade deal with India - we will have to give them about 100 to 300k visas. I wonder how Nasty little Farage will like that.

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over a year ago

"You will find that the older generation that voted brexit wont be as much affected then the younger ones.

Whatever your logic may be, and I do not doubt that you are sincere in your beliefs, significantly more older people wanted Brexit than younger people.

65+ 64% Leave

60-64 60% Leave

25-49 46% Leave

18-24 29% Leave

However, older people will not see as much of the effect of Brexit as younger ones as they simply will not be here. That is not controversial surely?

How you define "control" relative to the demands of the USA, China and the EU is very much up for debate.

Look up Huawei for details

This age demography thing is such a silly argument. If that's the case, any election should be held only for the millennials because what a political party does in a five year period will have a long term effect. And why not let the kids in the school also to vote? They are also the ones who will be affected long term.

Every age demography is important. People who are over 65 had children and grandchildren and they have seen more in their lives than the one in twenties. So they will have more knowledge about certain things. The votes of people in twenties also matter because they think about modern ideologies and future. Both votes are important for to take any decision. It's appalling that liberals have to stoop so low to deny voting rights for the old people to get what they want. And then they are the defenders of democracy apparently.

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By *asyukMan
over a year ago

West London

"You will find that the older generation that voted brexit wont be as much affected then the younger ones.

Whatever your logic may be, and I do not doubt that you are sincere in your beliefs, significantly more older people wanted Brexit than younger people.

65+ 64% Leave

60-64 60% Leave

25-49 46% Leave

18-24 29% Leave

However, older people will not see as much of the effect of Brexit as younger ones as they simply will not be here. That is not controversial surely?

How you define "control" relative to the demands of the USA, China and the EU is very much up for debate.

Look up Huawei for details

Nobody said that any the votes shouldn't count.

Nobody is denying anybody voting rights.

You are making a non-argument.

The point is that the old are imposing an opinion on the young which they will not have to live with for very long but the young will.

Please feel free to address that point and deny it in some way

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over a year ago

I was out and saw nobody celebrating. Quite quiet for a Friday night in London.

A few Europeans feeling pretty sad and rejected though, so that's something to celebrate, right?

But we're going to get a new 50p! So the huge loss to the economy, social rights, environmental protection, food safety standards, workers rights etc. Will be worth it.

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By *ssex_tomMan
over a year ago

Chelmsford

"You will find that the older generation that voted brexit wont be as much affected then the younger ones.

Whatever your logic may be, and I do not doubt that you are sincere in your beliefs, significantly more older people wanted Brexit than younger people.

65+ 64% Leave

60-64 60% Leave

25-49 46% Leave

18-24 29% Leave

However, older people will not see as much of the effect of Brexit as younger ones as they simply will not be here. That is not controversial surely?

How you define "control" relative to the demands of the USA, China and the EU is very much up for debate.

Look up Huawei for details

Nobody said that any the votes shouldn't count.

Nobody is denying anybody voting rights.

You are making a non-argument.

The point is that the old are imposing an opinion on the young which they will not have to live with for very long but the young will.

Please feel free to address that point and deny it in some way

Sounds like you are making a case for Euthanasia..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Freedom

What will you be free to do tomorrow that you can’t today?

The UK with now be able to make its own trade deals.

And if you’re trying to negotiate a trade deal, is it better to do so with a potential customer base of half a billion people, or 60million?

It's better to negotiate a trade deal which suits the people in the UK.

Like one with really good tariff free trade with the world’s largest trade bloc?

Well if the EU (formally the EEC) had just remained someone we had free trade with I doubt we would have voted to leave.

Once again, this is what we signed up for when we joined the EEC agreeing to the Treaty of Rome. Articles 2 and 3 below. What's your argument?

ARTICLE 2

The Community shall have as its task, by establishing a common market and

progressively approximating the economic policies of Member States, to promote

throughout the Community a harmonious development of economic activities, a

continuous and balanced expansion, an increase in stability, an accelerated raising of the

standard of living and closer relations between the States belonging to it.

ARTICLE 3

For the purposes set out in Article 2, the activities of the Community shall include, as

provided in this Treaty and in accordance with the timetable set out therein

(a) the elimination, as between Member States, of customs duties and of quantitative

restrictions on the import and export of goods, and of all other measures having

equivalent effect;

(b) the establishment of a common customs tariff and of a common commercial

policy towards third countries;

persons, services and capital;

(d) the adoption of a common policy in the sphere of agriculture;

(e) the adoption of a common policy in the sphere of transport;

(f) the institution of a system ensuring that competition in the common market is not

distorted;

(g) the application of procedures by which the economic policies of Member States

can he co-ordinated and disequilibria in their balances of payments remedied;

(h) the approximation of the laws of Member States to the extent required for the

proper functioning of the common market;

(i) the creation of a European Social Fund in order to improve employment

opportunities for workers and to contribute to the raising of their standard of

living;

(j) the establishment of a European Investment Bank to facilitate the economic

expansion of the Community by opening up fresh resources;

(k) the association of the overseas countries and territories in order to increase trade

and to promote jointly economic and social development."

Sounds like the people who voted to join didn't know what they were voting for

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"You will find that the older generation that voted brexit wont be as much affected then the younger ones.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"You will find that the older generation that voted brexit wont be as much affected then the younger ones.

Whatever your logic may be, and I do not doubt that you are sincere in your beliefs, significantly more older people wanted Brexit than younger people.

65+ 64% Leave

60-64 60% Leave

25-49 46% Leave

18-24 29% Leave

However, older people will not see as much of the effect of Brexit as younger ones as they simply will not be here. That is not controversial surely?

How you define "control" relative to the demands of the USA, China and the EU is very much up for debate.

Look up Huawei for details

Nobody said that any the votes shouldn't count.

Nobody is denying anybody voting rights.

You are making a non-argument.

The point is that the old are imposing an opinion on the young which they will not have to live with for very long but the young will.

Please feel free to address that point and deny it in some way

My point still stands. The old have lot more wisdom and experience in the world than the young. They have the right to contribute in these matters. Still someone who is 65 years old could live for 15 years more which is a reasonable lifetime in the country and they have the right to choose. Even if you are 25 years old, there is no guarantee that you are going to live in the country forever. Should we also deny voting rights for people living abroad because they are not living in this country to face the effects of their decision?

Maybe the remainers should look at the mirror and figure out what they really did wrong. Instead, all I see is everyone trying to find laughable excuses. "Age demography", "people are racists", "people are stupid", "right wing media", "second referendum". With this kind of attitude, I am pretty sure that the conservatives are going to have an easy win for decades.

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By *bi HaiveMan
Forum Mod
over a year ago

Cheeseville, Somerset

"You will find that the older generation that voted brexit wont be as much affected then the younger ones.

Whatever your logic may be, and I do not doubt that you are sincere in your beliefs, significantly more older people wanted Brexit than younger people.

65+ 64% Leave

60-64 60% Leave

25-49 46% Leave

18-24 29% Leave

However, older people will not see as much of the effect of Brexit as younger ones as they simply will not be here. That is not controversial surely?

How you define "control" relative to the demands of the USA, China and the EU is very much up for debate.

Look up Huawei for details

Nobody said that any the votes shouldn't count.

Nobody is denying anybody voting rights.

You are making a non-argument.

The point is that the old are imposing an opinion on the young which they will not have to live with for very long but the young will.

Please feel free to address that point and deny it in some way

Easy win?

Against a labour party massively disjointed with an unelectable leader - yep.

But don't forget that now Boris has 'got brexit done' (even if not in reality til the end of 2020 and way beyond) that the buck now stops firmly with the Tories. There'll be no means to blame remainers or Labour if things don't turn out as leavers wanted. There'll be no accountability for any job losses, economic damage or unkept leave promises bar with the government. If all goes to shit then a lot of people will be very unhappy and looking to blame someone.

And that won't be the EU, the Labour party or anyone that voted remain. With the majority he has and carte blanche to do as he pleases it'll all land firmly on Johnson's doorstep.

And rightly so.

So lets see what happens over the next 12 months.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"You will find that the older generation that voted brexit wont be as much affected then the younger ones.

Whatever your logic may be, and I do not doubt that you are sincere in your beliefs, significantly more older people wanted Brexit than younger people.

65+ 64% Leave

60-64 60% Leave

25-49 46% Leave

18-24 29% Leave

However, older people will not see as much of the effect of Brexit as younger ones as they simply will not be here. That is not controversial surely?

How you define "control" relative to the demands of the USA, China and the EU is very much up for debate.

Look up Huawei for details

Nobody said that any the votes shouldn't count.

Nobody is denying anybody voting rights.

You are making a non-argument.

The point is that the old are imposing an opinion on the young which they will not have to live with for very long but the young will.

Please feel free to address that point and deny it in some way

The majority of older people voted for Brexit, the majority of younger people voted to remain, these are facts . Of course the older generation has a right to vote and I am sure they can justify their reasons for voting to leave . Personally I hope Brexit is a success even though I voted to remain, either way the comedy value from the likes of Farage and their ‘celebration ‘ last night is priceless , some of the interviews with the people there are comedy gold

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By *lem-H-FandangoMan
over a year ago

salisbury

Im expecting a no deal exit in a year's time.

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By *bi HaiveMan
Forum Mod
over a year ago

Cheeseville, Somerset

"Im expecting a no deal exit in a year's time."

I was expecting that the second Johnson got into power.

As were many. The clues have been there all along.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"You will find that the older generation that voted brexit wont be as much affected then the younger ones.

Whatever your logic may be, and I do not doubt that you are sincere in your beliefs, significantly more older people wanted Brexit than younger people.

65+ 64% Leave

60-64 60% Leave

25-49 46% Leave

18-24 29% Leave

However, older people will not see as much of the effect of Brexit as younger ones as they simply will not be here. That is not controversial surely?

How you define "control" relative to the demands of the USA, China and the EU is very much up for debate.

Look up Huawei for details

Nobody said that any the votes shouldn't count.

Nobody is denying anybody voting rights.

You are making a non-argument.

The point is that the old are imposing an opinion on the young which they will not have to live with for very long but the young will.

Please feel free to address that point and deny it in some way

"
Should the older generation be able to vote lets say the over 67 cos the future is with the younger ones. I would even say lower the voting age.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"You will find that the older generation that voted brexit wont be as much affected then the younger ones.

Whatever your logic may be, and I do not doubt that you are sincere in your beliefs, significantly more older people wanted Brexit than younger people.

65+ 64% Leave

60-64 60% Leave

25-49 46% Leave

18-24 29% Leave

However, older people will not see as much of the effect of Brexit as younger ones as they simply will not be here. That is not controversial surely?

How you define "control" relative to the demands of the USA, China and the EU is very much up for debate.

Look up Huawei for details

Nobody said that any the votes shouldn't count.

Nobody is denying anybody voting rights.

You are making a non-argument.

The point is that the old are imposing an opinion on the young which they will not have to live with for very long but the young will.

Please feel free to address that point and deny it in some way

Should the older generation be able to vote lets say the over 67 cos the future is with the younger ones. I would even say lower the voting age."

I would lower the voting age to 16 but you can’t stop older people from voting unless they are incapable.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"You will find that the older generation that voted brexit wont be as much affected then the younger ones.

Whatever your logic may be, and I do not doubt that you are sincere in your beliefs, significantly more older people wanted Brexit than younger people.

65+ 64% Leave

60-64 60% Leave

25-49 46% Leave

18-24 29% Leave

However, older people will not see as much of the effect of Brexit as younger ones as they simply will not be here. That is not controversial surely?

How you define "control" relative to the demands of the USA, China and the EU is very much up for debate.

Look up Huawei for details

Nobody said that any the votes shouldn't count.

Nobody is denying anybody voting rights.

You are making a non-argument.

The point is that the old are imposing an opinion on the young which they will not have to live with for very long but the young will.

Please feel free to address that point and deny it in some way

Should the older generation be able to vote lets say the over 67 cos the future is with the younger ones. I would even say lower the voting age.

I would lower the voting age to 16 but you can’t stop older people from voting unless they are incapable. "
I meant *should the older generation not be able to vote from the age of 67 and yes lower it to 16 sounds good too.

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By *lem-H-FandangoMan
over a year ago

salisbury

Children voting? No. If they change the law so that 16 is the new 18 then sure, let them vote.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Children voting? No. If they change the law so that 16 is the new 18 then sure, let them vote. "

Yeah, let’s hope that happens .

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"You will find that the older generation that voted brexit wont be as much affected then the younger ones.

Whatever your logic may be, and I do not doubt that you are sincere in your beliefs, significantly more older people wanted Brexit than younger people.

65+ 64% Leave

60-64 60% Leave

25-49 46% Leave

18-24 29% Leave

However, older people will not see as much of the effect of Brexit as younger ones as they simply will not be here. That is not controversial surely?

How you define "control" relative to the demands of the USA, China and the EU is very much up for debate.

Look up Huawei for details

Nobody said that any the votes shouldn't count.

Nobody is denying anybody voting rights.

You are making a non-argument.

The point is that the old are imposing an opinion on the young which they will not have to live with for very long but the young will.

Please feel free to address that point and deny it in some way

Should the older generation be able to vote lets say the over 67 cos the future is with the younger ones. I would even say lower the voting age.

I would lower the voting age to 16 but you can’t stop older people from voting unless they are incapable. I meant *should the older generation not be able to vote from the age of 67 and yes lower it to 16 sounds good too."

You can’t stop people over 67 from voting I know if I reach that age I will want vote

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Why o why do those who wanted to leave or remain have to keep belittling the those who voted the other way?

We all know that the polls show a pretty even split of opinion. There's no right or wrong and it's daft to say the British people decided emphatically either way.

A poll on one day decided 'in or out' on a simple majority. It's how the poll was designed ... and that's how democracy works. So we're now out.

At a later date we may decide to seek a return to the EU. But that's not now. Now we have to negotiate trade deals as best we can with at least three major trading blocks/countries that dwarf our economy. We'll just have to see how that works out.

In the meantime, let's respect different views and move on from the playground politics of the last few years.

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By *an For YouMan
over a year ago

belfast/holywood

"You will find that the older generation that voted brexit wont be as much affected then the younger ones.

Whatever your logic may be, and I do not doubt that you are sincere in your beliefs, significantly more older people wanted Brexit than younger people.

65+ 64% Leave

60-64 60% Leave

25-49 46% Leave

18-24 29% Leave

However, older people will not see as much of the effect of Brexit as younger ones as they simply will not be here. That is not controversial surely?

How you define "control" relative to the demands of the USA, China and the EU is very much up for debate.

Look up Huawei for details

Nobody said that any the votes shouldn't count.

Nobody is denying anybody voting rights.

You are making a non-argument.

The point is that the old are imposing an opinion on the young which they will not have to live with for very long but the young will.

Please feel free to address that point and deny it in some way

Brilliant

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

That's a good way to look at it. I personally think Brexit could be bad for UK and if given a chance, I would have voted remain. But the truth is no one has enough data or skill to predict the future. People on either side of the line can only make guesses. No one knows for sure. Right now, all we can hope for is that it turns out good for the UK.

Whenever a party loses the elections, both the party and supporters take the blame, gather some feedback on how they can do better and act on it. The conservative parties all around the world, even with their questionable ideologies have done this for many years and have started winning elections. For left wing parties to win elections, they need to learn from it.

But what do I see?

Blame game within leaders.

Calling people stupid and racist because they voted for the other party.

Keeping themselves at a high pedestal of morality and intelligence while acting condescendingly to others.

They should stop doing all this nonsense and start listening to problems of people who voted against them.

It's funny when I see lines like "if you are a brexiter or a tory or trump supporter, don't talk to me" in social media. This is the kind of behaviour you expect from conservative people historically. But the opposite is happening these days. If this is going to continue, I don't see the political tide changing soon.

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By *acey_RedWoman
over a year ago

Liverpool

"You will find that the older generation that voted brexit wont be as much affected then the younger ones.

Whatever your logic may be, and I do not doubt that you are sincere in your beliefs, significantly more older people wanted Brexit than younger people.

65+ 64% Leave

60-64 60% Leave

25-49 46% Leave

18-24 29% Leave

However, older people will not see as much of the effect of Brexit as younger ones as they simply will not be here. That is not controversial surely?

How you define "control" relative to the demands of the USA, China and the EU is very much up for debate.

Look up Huawei for details

Nobody said that any the votes shouldn't count.

Nobody is denying anybody voting rights.

You are making a non-argument.

The point is that the old are imposing an opinion on the young which they will not have to live with for very long but the young will.

Please feel free to address that point and deny it in some way

Did wrong? How is having a different opinion to you doing something wrong? Yeah slightly more people agreed with you than disagreed but that doesn't make those who disagreed wrong. They just want something different to you.

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By *teveuk77Man
over a year ago

"Why o why do those who wanted to leave or remain have to keep belittling the those who voted the other way?

We all know that the polls show a pretty even split of opinion. There's no right or wrong and it's daft to say the British people decided emphatically either way.

A poll on one day decided 'in or out' on a simple majority. It's how the poll was designed ... and that's how democracy works. So we're now out.

In the meantime, let's respect different views and move on from the playground politics of the last few years. "

you've made a very important point. In out referendum with simple majority. The month before or the month after it may have swung the other way. Whilst the referendum may have been a democratic process, it really isn't suitable for something so complex with potentially a devastating impact for our economy.

Farage made a point before the referendum when he said that in a 52:48 remain victory there would be unfinished business. He was right. 48% of people voting Leave would have been a significant number. Over time that figure may have shifted either way. Revisiting the referendum 5 years later may have been wise idea especially if the polls were indicating a shift in opinion. What's happening now is that the decision on June 2016 is final and the 48% are told to shut up and, going by last night celebrations, some Brexiters feel we should be jailed!

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By *stellaWoman
over a year ago

London

Can we go back yet please thankyou?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

When I said wrong, I didn't mean it in a moral sense. I meant the campaigning methods and how they tried to convince people. Maybe the remainers could have done something different to sway more votes in their favour.

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By *teveuk77Man
over a year ago

"Can we go back yet please thankyou?"

No, apparently not. If you love the EU so much you are a traitor and should move there. Brexiters eh?!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I agree, they should have told lies, big massive lies. It might have worked

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I agree, they should have told lies, big massive lies. It might have worked "

Exactly this. Keep deluding that it was the lies which turned the votes.

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By *acey_RedWoman
over a year ago

Liverpool

Meh. People want what they want. It's pretty clear from the result and that of the many elections we have had in recent years that at present our country has moved further to the right and become more nationlist. There's still a lot of us on the left/internationalist side, especially in my age group but for now we're in the minority and I don't think there's a great deal we can do about that until something causes a dramatic shift in political tides. No idea what could cause that personally.

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