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"They arrested our ambassador also they have let him go now They have no respect for international law !!!" That is right they dont have that. | |||
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"They arrested our ambassador also they have let him go now They have no respect for international law !!!" What was he doing at a demo by students against the regime? | |||
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"They arrested our ambassador also they have let him go now They have no respect for international law !!! What was he doing at a demo by students against the regime? " It started as a vigil for the dead when it turned into a demo he left and was arrested getting his hair cut. | |||
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"They arrested our ambassador also they have let him go now They have no respect for international law !!! What was he doing at a demo by students against the regime? " As he said in a statement he was at vigil for the British people who were killed he was not at the demo in fact he was arrested at the barbershop | |||
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"Their statement is easily checked about the plane flying into sensitive airspace so coming as a possible threat and the system engaged on the plane. Iran did well to admit it albeit in the face of the evidence but they said it happened in the first place because of the US’s aggression which had resulted in the need for the system to be on in the first place" So not really an admission, more trying to shift the blame. Is Blair advising them does one think? | |||
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"Their statement is easily checked about the plane flying into sensitive airspace so coming as a possible threat and the system engaged on the plane. Iran did well to admit it albeit in the face of the evidence but they said it happened in the first place because of the US’s aggression which had resulted in the need for the system to be on in the first place" The plane took off from Tehran airport . Same as thousands and thousands of other flights. It headed in an almost ruler straight line, slowly gaining altitude, heading NW, out of Iranian airspace towards its destination . Same as tens of thousands of other flights. It’s called a flight path on a pre determined and internationally agreed flight corridor . Geddit?. Yes is can be checked . Have you not seen the flight trace ?, nothing suspicious. Yet here you are, wanting to be believe the Iranian liars who lied and lied until the evidence became overwhelming. A possible threat ?. Have you ever been involved in air defence systems ?. A plane gaining height, flying out of the country is a threat ?. What planet are you on?. You choose to believe all this terrorist propoganda ? | |||
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" A possible threat ?. Have you ever been involved in air defence systems ?. A plane gaining height, flying out of the country is a threat ?. What planet are you on?. You choose to believe all this terrorist propoganda ?" So why did the US destroy IR655 when it was ascending on its scheduled flightpath? | |||
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" A possible threat ?. Have you ever been involved in air defence systems ?. A plane gaining height, flying out of the country is a threat ?. What planet are you on?. You choose to believe all this terrorist propoganda ? So why did the US destroy IR655 when it was ascending on its scheduled flightpath? " Check the Wikipedia entry. It details what the mitigating circumstances are. The circumstances of both incidents are totally different incidentally. However the US has form for fucking up and particularly blue on blue incidents . Trigger happy at the best of times p | |||
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"The plane was from Ukraine Ukraine will rightly kick off Iran will go cap in hand to Russia for some back up Russia will gladly help out because of their issues with Ukraine Hence it was done on purpose to drag Russia into things " You should see the russian trolls on some forums, very funny as long as you understand what and who they are. It wasn't done on purpose to drag anyone into anything, thats pure tin foil hat. Whilst accidents happen, they could of just shut the air space down. As they didn't, it is all Iran's fault.  | |||
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"They only admitted it because they had been caught out with evidence " That is right would they admit it if they didnt get caught out? I dont think they would do that. | |||
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"They only admitted it because they had been caught out with evidence That is right would they admit it if they didnt get caught out? I dont think they would do that." Hence the refusal to let anyone at the flight recorders, digging up the plane etc etc Trying to hide what they did. Problem is of course, the UK, USA, France, Germany, probably the whole of NATO will have known which launcher did it. Be doing all the above, they have actually made it worse, if they had just said within minutes it was an accident caused by an over eager officer on the button and a mistake to not close the airspace, the protests etc may not be happening. | |||
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"Their statement is easily checked about the plane flying into sensitive airspace so coming as a possible threat and the system engaged on the plane. Iran did well to admit it albeit in the face of the evidence but they said it happened in the first place because of the US’s aggression which had resulted in the need for the system to be on in the first place The plane took off from Tehran airport . Same as thousands and thousands of other flights. It headed in an almost ruler straight line, slowly gaining altitude, heading NW, out of Iranian airspace towards its destination . Same as tens of thousands of other flights. It’s called a flight path on a pre determined and internationally agreed flight corridor . Geddit?. Yes is can be checked . Have you not seen the flight trace ?, nothing suspicious. Yet here you are, wanting to be believe the Iranian liars who lied and lied until the evidence became overwhelming. A possible threat ?. Have you ever been involved in air defence systems ?. A plane gaining height, flying out of the country is a threat ?. What planet are you on?. You choose to believe all this terrorist propoganda ?" Actually, the source was Western, not Eastern. | |||
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" Hence the refusal to let anyone at the flight recorders, digging up the plane etc etc Trying to hide what they did. |" Your allegation is contradicted by the interview given yesterday on behalf of the Ukraine state commission currently in Iran. | |||
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" A possible threat ?. Have you ever been involved in air defence systems ?. A plane gaining height, flying out of the country is a threat ?. What planet are you on?. You choose to believe all this terrorist propoganda ? So why did the US destroy IR655 when it was ascending on its scheduled flightpath? Check the Wikipedia entry. It details what the mitigating circumstances are. The circumstances of both incidents are totally different incidentally. However the US has form for fucking up and particularly blue on blue incidents . Trigger happy at the best of times p" There are no mitigating circumstances. A calamitous mistake. A scheduled flight, ascending on its scheduled flight path, in normal communication with air traffic control and . . . boom! Destroyed. Both almighty fuck-ups, both nurtured by a bout of willy-waving. There is a key difference. Iran killed some of its own citizens. The Americans did not. | |||
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"Just on news crazy Iranian’ s chanting death to the UK outside the British embassy in Iran About time they were introduced to the RAF and Royal Navy!!!" Government probably told them they'd kill their families if they didn't. | |||
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"Just on news crazy Iranian’ s chanting death to the UK outside the British embassy in Iran About time they were introduced to the RAF and Royal Navy!!! Government probably told them they'd kill their families if they didn't. " You are probably right the mad mullahs would do that | |||
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"I was expecting you to wonder if it was cos of Brexshit. "No, not this time | |||
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"They only admitted it because they had been caught out with evidence That is right would they admit it if they didnt get caught out? I dont think they would do that. Hence the refusal to let anyone at the flight recorders, digging up the plane etc etc Trying to hide what they did. Problem is of course, the UK, USA, France, Germany, probably the whole of NATO will have known which launcher did it. Be doing all the above, they have actually made it worse, if they had just said within minutes it was an accident caused by an over eager officer on the button and a mistake to not close the airspace, the protests etc may not be happening. "That is right as they didnt want to give the flight recorder as it records everything that happens. | |||
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"Just on the news, crazy Iranian’s chanting death to the UK outside the British embassy in Iran " " Government probably told them they'd kill their families if they didn't. " Possibly true. | |||
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"Just on news crazy Iranian’ s chanting death to the UK outside the British embassy in Iran About time they were introduced to the RAF and Royal Navy!!!" Yes, Trump has stirred a hornet's nest. Every previous US president resisted the temptation. Because the consequences were "incalculable". Care to calculate them? | |||
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"Just on news crazy Iranian’ s chanting death to the UK outside the British embassy in Iran About time they were introduced to the RAF and Royal Navy!!! Yes, Trump has stirred a hornet's nest. Every previous US president resisted the temptation. Because the consequences were "incalculable". Care to calculate them?" Really? You think this has been the largest action from a US president against Iran? He didn't even use any explosives! Im guessing you're still on side with how Obama brought freedom to Libya though, right?! | |||
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"Just on news crazy Iranian’ s chanting death to the UK outside the British embassy in Iran About time they were introduced to the RAF and Royal Navy!!! Yes, Trump has stirred a hornet's nest. Every previous US president resisted the temptation. Because the consequences were "incalculable". Care to calculate them? Really? You think this has been the largest action from a US president against Iran? He didn't even use any explosives! Im guessing you're still on side with how Obama brought freedom to Libya though, right?!" So what's your calculation of the "incalculable" then? | |||
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"Just on news crazy Iranian’ s chanting death to the UK outside the British embassy in Iran About time they were introduced to the RAF and Royal Navy!!! Yes, Trump has stirred a hornet's nest. Every previous US president resisted the temptation. Because the consequences were "incalculable". Care to calculate them? Really? You think this has been the largest action from a US president against Iran? He didn't even use any explosives! Im guessing you're still on side with how Obama brought freedom to Libya though, right?! So what's your calculation of the "incalculable" then? " It's incalculable... | |||
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" A possible threat ?. Have you ever been involved in air defence systems ?. A plane gaining height, flying out of the country is a threat ?. What planet are you on?. You choose to believe all this terrorist propoganda ? So why did the US destroy IR655 when it was ascending on its scheduled flightpath? Check the Wikipedia entry. It details what the mitigating circumstances are. The circumstances of both incidents are totally different incidentally. However the US has form for fucking up and particularly blue on blue incidents . Trigger happy at the best of times p There are no mitigating circumstances. A calamitous mistake. A scheduled flight, ascending on its scheduled flight path, in normal communication with air traffic control and . . . boom! Destroyed. Both almighty fuck-ups, both nurtured by a bout of willy-waving. There is a key difference. Iran killed some of its own citizens. The Americans did not." Pity..... funeral anyone? | |||
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"Just on news crazy Iranian’ s chanting death to the UK outside the British embassy in Iran About time they were introduced to the RAF and Royal Navy!!! Yes, Trump has stirred a hornet's nest. Every previous US president resisted the temptation. Because the consequences were "incalculable". Care to calculate them?" Many many more deaths in the Middle East - yay | |||
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"Just on news crazy Iranian’ s chanting death to the UK outside the British embassy in Iran About time they were introduced to the RAF and Royal Navy!!!" what royal navy ? the one tied up at Portsmouth having there engines changed because they don't work in warm climates a bit of a prerequisite in the Persian gulf or the two shiney new aircraft carriers with no planes that we haven't enough sailors to man yeah quaking in there boots | |||
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"Just on news crazy Iranian’ s chanting death to the UK outside the British embassy in Iran About time they were introduced to the RAF and Royal Navy!!!what royal navy ? the one tied up at Portsmouth having there engines changed because they don't work in warm climates a bit of a prerequisite in the Persian gulf or the two shiney new aircraft carriers with no planes that we haven't enough sailors to man yeah quaking in there boots " I was thinking the submarines with the nukes onboard.  | |||
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"Just on news crazy Iranian’ s chanting death to the UK outside the British embassy in Iran About time they were introduced to the RAF and Royal Navy!!!what royal navy ? the one tied up at Portsmouth having there engines changed because they don't work in warm climates a bit of a prerequisite in the Persian gulf or the two shiney new aircraft carriers with no planes that we haven't enough sailors to man yeah quaking in there boots I was thinking the submarines with the nukes onboard. "You are probably not the only one thinking that | |||
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"More genocidal maniacs." For some of the forum inmates raising the temperature of millions of humans to three times hotter than the core of the sun is a rational course of action and not genocidal at all.. Just think of all the free glass and Ignore the radioactive cloud. I’m sure it’ll will blow over some other people we don’t like and not us..  | |||
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"We are so used to seeing sanitizer news, and carefully scripted spin from politicians. So, the Iranians fucked up. A soldier launches a missile, probably without orders, and a cop arrests the ambassador, again without thinking too much about it. Big mistakes, and they'll suffer for their mistakes, maybe be executed. Cast your mind back to the second gulf War, when a boat with Royal marines/navy on board wandered into Iranian waters, by mistake. The crew(male and female) were taken captive, but treated with great respect by their Iranian captors, and released shortly after(into the waiting warm embrace of their CO and RSM!!) Shit happens, soldiers on the ground make mistakes, its not a cause for going to war. " "wandered into Iranian waters"....now who's spin are you listening to | |||
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"It wasn't a retaliation for this, by any chance? Iran Air Flight 655 was a scheduled passenger flight from Tehran to Dubai via Bandar Abbas that was shot down on 3 July 1988 by an SM-2MR surface-to-air missilefired from USS Vincennes, a guided-missile cruiser of the United States Navy. The aircraft, an Airbus A300, was destroyed and all 290 people on board were killed.[1] The jet was hit while flying over Iran's territorial waters in the Persian Gulf, along the flight's usual route, shortly after departing Bandar Abbas International Airport, the flight's stopover location" No | |||
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"It wasn't a retaliation for this, by any chance? Iran Air Flight 655 was a scheduled passenger flight from Tehran to Dubai via Bandar Abbas that was shot down on 3 July 1988 by an SM-2MR surface-to-air missilefired from USS Vincennes, a guided-missile cruiser of the United States Navy. The aircraft, an Airbus A300, was destroyed and all 290 people on board were killed.[1] The jet was hit while flying over Iran's territorial waters in the Persian Gulf, along the flight's usual route, shortly after departing Bandar Abbas International Airport, the flight's stopover location" no was more likely Republican guard commanders put a shot across the bows of the moderates in parliament disguised as an accident . lots going on internally politics wise between the two factions | |||
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"No they're just poorly trained, poorly disciplined, and governed by fear. " . Besides the supreme leader is in charge, not the moderates in parliament. | |||
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"No they're just poorly trained, poorly disciplined, and governed by fear. " the general Iranian army maybe the Republican guard definitely not these are the hard core fundamentalist nutters who are indoctrinated from a very young age to serve the supreme leader who are trained and equipped accordingly they operate as an entirely separate autonomous outfit under the behest of the supreme leader they are self financed through a multitude of legitimate and non legitimate businesses across the region | |||
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"No they're just poorly trained, poorly disciplined, and governed by fear. the general Iranian army maybe the Republican guard definitely not these are the hard core fundamentalist nutters who are indoctrinated from a very young age to serve the supreme leader who are trained and equipped accordingly they operate as an entirely separate autonomous outfit under the behest of the supreme leader they are self financed through a multitude of legitimate and non legitimate businesses across the region " . They said the exact same thing about the elite republican guard in Iraq. Or do you think there that good they couldn't tell the difference between a domestic plane taking off from they're own international airport and a US drone?? | |||
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