FabSwingers.com forum: Will brexit happen on 31st jan?

By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Here I will do the countdown just like the other one I did in october last year, so what do you think will happen with just 3 weeks left? My prediction is that they wont leave. I will have the haribos ready

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By *estivalMan
over a year ago

borehamwood

hqsnt it been put into law that there aint gona be another extension?

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By *oxychick35Couple
over a year ago

thornaby

Poor shag pmsl

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"hqsnt it been put into law that there aint gona be another extension?"
Didnt boris ask for a 11 month extension? It could be more like 10 years to get a deal.

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By *estivalMan
over a year ago

borehamwood

"hqsnt it been put into law that there aint gona be another extension?Didnt boris ask for a 11 month extension? It could be more like 10 years to get a deal."

when did he ask for 11 months? last i heard he had put into law no more extensions.but then again i dont follow brexit religiosly like some on here.we could of already left for all i know

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By *anejohnkent6263Couple
over a year ago

canterbury

Have a party ...leave the eu to fester...and implode

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"hqsnt it been put into law that there aint gona be another extension?Didnt boris ask for a 11 month extension? It could be more like 10 years to get a deal.

when did he ask for 11 months? last i heard he had put into law no more extensions.but then again i dont follow brexit religiosly like some on here.we could of already left for all i know"
Yes he made it so that it will only take 11 months to get a deal but that wont happen not sure why he keeps doing these extensions. I wonder the same why they havent left yet they like the benefits of being in the eu no doubt.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Unfortunately I think we will be out on the 31st as in not a member it it’s going to take a long time to sort everything else out

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Have a party ...leave the eu to fester...and implode"

Strange remark from someone who spends 50% of their time in France? So what do you think think about the 90/180 day rule?

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By *ara JTV/TS
over a year ago

Bristol East

What happens on Jan 31 is UK enters the transition phase, during which the "future relationship" is converted into a series of legally-binding bilateral agreements.

The expiry date for this was agreed by Mrs May and EU in version 1 of the Withdrawal Agreement to be Dec 31, 2020.

This is because the next 7-year financial cycle of the EU begins on Jan 1, 21.

The Withdrawal Agreement being put forward by Johnson also adheres to the Dec 31 date as the expiry of the transition phase.

Some people think the timescale is too short for all the negotiations and ratifications that will be needed.

Which would mean either an extension on Jan 1 or No Deal.

Farage says he pulled his candidates out of Conservative seats because Johnson promised there would be no extension.

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By *rench letterCouple
over a year ago

Chorley,

"Have a party ...leave the eu to fester...and implode

Strange remark from someone who spends 50% of their time in France? So what do you think think about the 90/180 day rule?

Well said.

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By *teveuk77Man
over a year ago

"Have a party ...leave the eu to fester...and implode"

Tangible benefit please...Thanks in advance.

P.S. only those that haven't had a hole blown in them count.

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By *anejohnkent6263Couple
over a year ago

canterbury

Don't mind rules...live to what you are given ...no one knows what the rules will be yet anyway

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By *ungblackbullMan
over a year ago

scotland

"Don't mind rules...live to what you are given ...no one knows what the rules will be yet anyway"

In other words, shut up and do as you are told...

No wonder people voted how they were told to vote by the right wing press in the referendum.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Don't mind rules...live to what you are given ...no one knows what the rules will be yet anyway"

Of course we just voted to put more rules onto ourselves for no good reason.

Aside from that. Your post is just silly.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Don't mind rules...live to what you are given ...no one knows what the rules will be yet anyway

In other words, shut up and do as you are told...

No wonder people voted how they were told to vote by the right wing press in the referendum."

Not only that, but those who voted as they're told are whipped up into a storm of anger against anyone who dares to speak out against it.

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By *obletonMan
over a year ago

A Home Among The Woodland Creatures

"Don't mind rules...live to what you are given ...no one knows what the rules will be yet anyway

In other words, shut up and do as you are told...

No wonder people voted how they were told to vote by the right wing press in the referendum.

Not only that, but those who voted as they're told are whipped up into a storm of anger against anyone who dares to speak out against it."

of course, It was supposed to be like a Hollywood movie.

Winning the referrendum was supposed to be like the moment when the Rebel Alliance blew up the Death Star.

Everyone was supposed to cheer, the other side would miraculously realise that they were wrong and we'd all sit around a campfire and sing Kum Ba Ah.

No One was supposed to question it or ask what we do next.

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By *anejohnkent6263Couple
over a year ago

canterbury

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By *anejohnkent6263Couple
over a year ago

canterbury

Oh just silly ...play nice children and do as your told x

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Here I will do the countdown just like the other one I did in october last year, so what do you think will happen with just 3 weeks left? My prediction is that they wont leave. I will have the haribos ready

I'm so bored of Brexit now I really couldn't care less what happens

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By *oxychick35Couple
over a year ago

thornaby

"Don't mind rules...live to what you are given ...no one knows what the rules will be yet anyway

In other words, shut up and do as you are told...

No wonder people voted how they were told to vote by the right wing press in the referendum.

Not only that, but those who voted as they're told are whipped up into a storm of anger against anyone who dares to speak out against it."
the storm of anger has been from remainers for the last 3 yrs against leave voters just look at the posts to see for yaself 3yrs worth of evidence on a swingers site lol

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By *hMyGawdCouple
over a year ago

Midlands

Yes it will happen. Without a shadow of a doubt.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Don't mind rules...live to what you are given ...no one knows what the rules will be yet anyway

In other words, shut up and do as you are told...

No wonder people voted how they were told to vote by the right wing press in the referendum.

Not only that, but those who voted as they're told are whipped up into a storm of anger against anyone who dares to speak out against it.the storm of anger has been from remainers for the last 3 yrs against leave voters just look at the posts to see for yaself 3yrs worth of evidence on a swingers site lol"

I'd call it frustration from remainers at leavers as they still haven't been able to say how it's all a good idea

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By *oxychick35Couple
over a year ago

thornaby

When I get frustrated I have a fuck or a wank has any of you remainers tried that trust me it’s great should join a swingers site lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"When I get frustrated I have a fuck or a wank has any of you remainers tried that trust me it’s great should join a swingers site lol"

Why are you frustrated?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"When I get frustrated I have a fuck or a wank has any of you remainers tried that trust me it’s great should join a swingers site lol

Why are you frustrated?

Who knows

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

We will technically be ‘leaving’ nobody is sure how though ? Can any leave voters tell me what is the first thing they will do on Feb 1st?

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By *oxychick35Couple
over a year ago

thornaby

"When I get frustrated I have a fuck or a wank has any of you remainers tried that trust me it’s great should join a swingers site lol

Why are you frustrated?

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it’s sexual frustration iv just got a high sex drive that’s all waiting for the wife to finish work I’m a leaver so brexit doesn’t frustrate me guess I’m lucky lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"When I get frustrated I have a fuck or a wank has any of you remainers tried that trust me it’s great should join a swingers site lol

Why are you frustrated?

it’s sexual frustration iv just got a high sex drive that’s all waiting for the wife to finish work I’m a leaver so brexit doesn’t frustrate me guess I’m lucky lol"

Maybe you should get a job? Give yourself a purpose in life,

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By *oxychick35Couple
over a year ago

thornaby

I don’t spend all my time on here sweatheart our profile is split between the three of us so it’s not always me logged on is that ok with you darling ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Don't mind rules...live to what you are given ...no one knows what the rules will be yet anyway"

Oh yes we do! The said 90/180 day rule has been around since the Freedom of movement rules introduced in 2004! But nobody enforced them. Just like you will need an IDP, and as a TCN you will also have to have to show travel insurance for resonsibilitè civil and after the transaction period a visa ! The dividend of Brexit!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Don't mind rules...live to what you are given ...no one knows what the rules will be yet anyway

Useful link:

https://www.gov.uk/foreign-travel-advice/france/entry-requirements

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By *ungblackbullMan
over a year ago

scotland

"Don't mind rules...live to what you are given ...no one knows what the rules will be yet anyway

In other words, shut up and do as you are told...

No wonder people voted how they were told to vote by the right wing press in the referendum.

I'd call it frustration from remainers at leavers as they still haven't been able to say how it's all a good idea

Exactly, and reading through the most recent post, looks like leavers don't care that Brexit is a load of wank. They just jack off.

There is a difference between Brexit and a wank though. A wank has tangible benefits.

Can the next Brexiter give me one please? (A benefit, not a wank!).

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

Central

"Don't mind rules...live to what you are given ...no one knows what the rules will be yet anyway

In other words, shut up and do as you are told...

No wonder people voted how they were told to vote by the right wing press in the referendum.

We're biased in our perceptions, so that we never get a clear reality. It's been a useful period, including whilst Johnson extended the delay, by sabotaging and voting down May's deal, as it allowed for closer scrutiny of the implications and impact of brexit to be better planned for. Most people on each side want the best for the majority, though they have come to their viewpoints and conclusions via different paths, potentially including having their opinion being manipulated by anonymous parties, who would no doubt stand to gain more than a simple, solitary leave voter.

Everyone is in a position to learn now, from the actual experience of how this affects most of the population.

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By *amesnMarieCouple
over a year ago

london

Bring on Brexit.... and if knickerless Sturgeon wants Scotland to stay.. fuck em off, bring back british ship building to England, bring back the navy base to England and most importantly ..... Make her Country build the wall

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Don't mind rules...live to what you are given ...no one knows what the rules will be yet anyway

In other words, shut up and do as you are told...

No wonder people voted how they were told to vote by the right wing press in the referendum.

Everyone is in a position to learn now, from the actual experience of how this affects most of the population. "

Experimental - The definition of Brexit - the experience will drive any sane person mental

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Bring on Brexit.... and if knickerless Sturgeon wants Scotland to stay.. fuck em off, bring back british ship building to England, bring back the navy base to England and most importantly ..... Make her Country build the wall

You're joking, but there are people out there who think shit like this.

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By *hMyGawdCouple
over a year ago

Midlands

"Can the next Brexiter give me one please?"

1) No longer paying the membership fee

2) Free to set our own laws

3) Free from the ECJ

4) Free to trade globally without restriction

5) A massive snub to the sorts of people who voted Remain*

* This reason alone, is the only reason we ever needed

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By *ammskiMan
over a year ago

lytham st.annes

"Can the next Brexiter give me one please?

1) No longer paying the membership fee

2) Free to set our own laws

3) Free from the ECJ

4) Free to trade globally without restriction

5) A massive snub to the sorts of people who voted Remain*

* This reason alone, is the only reason we ever needed

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Can the next Brexiter give me one please?

1) No longer paying the membership fee

2) Free to set our own laws

3) Free from the ECJ

4) Free to trade globally without restriction

5) A massive snub to the sorts of people who voted Remain*

* This reason alone, is the only reason we ever needed

Sorts of people who voted remain, what "sort" are we then?

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By *hMyGawdCouple
over a year ago

Midlands

"Sorts of people who voted remain, what "sort" are we then? "

Cultural marxists

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

You're joking, but there are people out there who think shit like this."

I hope it's a joke too..... Or I feel sorry for you...

If not then please take the "british" nuclear weapons back to England's South coast with your "ship building industry"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Sorts of people who voted remain, what "sort" are we then?

Cultural marxists"

Wow, that's the biggest load of bullshit written with 2 words I've ever seen

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By *ara JTV/TS
over a year ago

Bristol East

"Cl

4) Free to trade globally without restriction

One thing trading on WTO rules is not is "without restriction".

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By *an For YouMan
over a year ago

belfast/holywood

"I don’t spend all my time on here sweatheart our profile is split between the three of us so it’s not always me logged on is that ok with you darling ?"

Why aren’t their couples like u in Belfast lol mmmmm ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

You're joking, but there are people out there who think shit like this.

I hope it's a joke too..... Or I feel sorry for you...

If not then please take the "british" nuclear weapons back to England's South coast with your "ship building industry"

I think we've entered joke-inception.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Can the next Brexiter give me one please?

1) No longer paying the membership fee

2) Free to set our own laws

3) Free from the ECJ

4) Free to trade globally without restriction

5) A massive snub to the sorts of people who voted Remain*

* This reason alone, is the only reason we ever needed

For sure. People believe this rhubarb and are unable to put any of this into context. But no leavers seem to be able to provide any reasons to leave.

I'll give you that last one, I genuinely believe that you want to "snub" people to don't tow the line and who think for themselves.

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By *an For YouMan
over a year ago

belfast/holywood

There are no such things as leavers or remainers . We are leaving. Move on. Chill out. Or forever be a bitter loser .

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"There are no such things as leavers or remainers . We are leaving. Move on. Chill out. Or forever be a bitter loser ."

For sure. There are two categories.

The winners - a small group of select elite ultra rich.

The losers - everyone else.

This is there the divide lies.

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By *ungblackbullMan
over a year ago

scotland

"There are no such things as leavers or remainers . We are leaving. Move on. Chill out. Or forever be a bitter loser ."

Tangible benefit please....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"There are no such things as leavers or remainers . We are leaving. Move on. Chill out. Or forever be a bitter loser ."

Yes we are leaving, but if it goes badly then we will rejoin . So you are completely wrong, there will always be leavers and remainers unless leaving the EU becomes a success

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Can the next Brexiter give me one please?

1) No longer paying the membership fee

2) Free to set our own laws

3) Free from the ECJ

4) Free to trade globally without restriction

5) A massive snub to the sorts of people who voted Remain*

* This reason alone, is the only reason we ever needed

Sorts of people who voted remain, what "sort" are we then? "

1 True, we won’t have to pay and at least the NHS will be getting £350 million extra a week as promised ???

2 what laws do you think we should make that we couldn’t before ?

3 what has the ECJ done that you are most opposed to?

4 Which countries are our most important trading allies? And when will we be getting a better deal with them?

5 why do you get pleasure from this? What ‘type’ of people are you referring to?

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By *hMyGawdCouple
over a year ago

Midlands

1 True, we won’t have to pay and at least the NHS will be getting £350 million extra a week as promised ???

2 what laws do you think we should make that we couldn’t before ?

3 what has the ECJ done that you are most opposed to?

4 Which countries are our most important trading allies? And when will we be getting a better deal with them?

5 why do you get pleasure from this? What ‘type’ of people are you referring to? "

1) NHS needs to be abolished

2) Death penalty. Which is directly prohibited in EU law

3) Overruling many decisions by our courts. Therefore undermining our justice system

4) US, China and the EU. If a trade deal takes a while to negotiate, so be it.

5) The cultural marxists who have ruined this country almost all voted Remain

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

1 True, we won’t have to pay and at least the NHS will be getting £350 million extra a week as promised ???

2 what laws do you think we should make that we couldn’t before ?

3 what has the ECJ done that you are most opposed to?

4 Which countries are our most important trading allies? And when will we be getting a better deal with them?

5 why do you get pleasure from this? What ‘type’ of people are you referring to?

1) NHS needs to be abolished

2) Death penalty. Which is directly prohibited in EU law

3) Overruling many decisions by our courts. Therefore undermining our justice system

4) US, China and the EU. If a trade deal takes a while to negotiate, so be it.

5) The cultural marxists who have ruined this country almost all voted Remain"

This is the most pro EU post on the forums thus far.

Well done.

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By *an For YouMan
over a year ago

belfast/holywood

"There are no such things as leavers or remainers . We are leaving. Move on. Chill out. Or forever be a bitter loser .

Yes we are leaving, but if it goes badly then we will rejoin . So you are completely wrong, there will always be leavers and remainers unless leaving the EU becomes a success "

We will re join??????..... ha ha ha .... where is that written down as a condition ????????

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"There are no such things as leavers or remainers . We are leaving. Move on. Chill out. Or forever be a bitter loser .

Yes we are leaving, but if it goes badly then we will rejoin . So you are completely wrong, there will always be leavers and remainers unless leaving the EU becomes a success

We will re join??????..... ha ha ha .... where is that written down as a condition ????????"

When we joined in 1973 where was it written down that we would leave ????????????????

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By *an For YouMan
over a year ago

belfast/holywood

"There are no such things as leavers or remainers . We are leaving. Move on. Chill out. Or forever be a bitter loser .

Yes we are leaving, but if it goes badly then we will rejoin . So you are completely wrong, there will always be leavers and remainers unless leaving the EU becomes a success

We will re join??????..... ha ha ha .... where is that written down as a condition ????????

When we joined in 1973 where was it written down that we would leave ????????????????"

Ha ha .... rejoining.... nice one .... keep taking the tablets

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"There are no such things as leavers or remainers . We are leaving. Move on. Chill out. Or forever be a bitter loser .

Yes we are leaving, but if it goes badly then we will rejoin . So you are completely wrong, there will always be leavers and remainers unless leaving the EU becomes a success

We will re join??????..... ha ha ha .... where is that written down as a condition ????????

When we joined in 1973 where was it written down that we would leave ????????????????"

I can't see the point in rejoining. The purpose of brexit is for a handful of rich arseholes to get richer, and more powerful.

There's no fucking way they would allow the UK to rejoin. Look how easy it was for them to persuade people to vote themselves poorer and to lose their rights, specifically for their personal gain.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

1 True, we won’t have to pay and at least the NHS will be getting £350 million extra a week as promised ???

2 what laws do you think we should make that we couldn’t before ?

3 what has the ECJ done that you are most opposed to?

4 Which countries are our most important trading allies? And when will we be getting a better deal with them?

5 why do you get pleasure from this? What ‘type’ of people are you referring to?

1) NHS needs to be abolished

2) Death penalty. Which is directly prohibited in EU law

3) Overruling many decisions by our courts. Therefore undermining our justice system

4) US, China and the EU. If a trade deal takes a while to negotiate, so be it.

5) The cultural marxists who have ruined this country almost all voted Remain"

1 why does it need to be abolished ?

2 why do you want the death penalty and what crimes would it be used for ?

3 any examples of these ‘many’ decisions .

4 it is the EU , US and China in that order ? Why can’t the deals be in place within 12 months, surely the negotiations will be ‘easy’’.

5 Any proof? Or are you just making it up?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"There are no such things as leavers or remainers . We are leaving. Move on. Chill out. Or forever be a bitter loser .

Yes we are leaving, but if it goes badly then we will rejoin . So you are completely wrong, there will always be leavers and remainers unless leaving the EU becomes a success

We will re join??????..... ha ha ha .... where is that written down as a condition ????????

When we joined in 1973 where was it written down that we would leave ????????????????

Ha ha .... rejoining.... nice one .... keep taking the tablets"

I only said we would rejoin if Brexit isn’t a success? But it will be a huge success? Correct ?

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By *estivalMan
over a year ago

borehamwood

i dont think we will rejoin watever happens.a lot of the politicians who wanted to remain wanted to stay with all the special privlages we had.not so many will want to rejoin when we are treated just the same as all the other countrys who have joined

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By *hMyGawdCouple
over a year ago

Midlands

"1 why does it need to be abolished ?

2 why do you want the death penalty and what crimes would it be used for ?

3 any examples of these ‘many’ decisions .

4 it is the EU , US and China in that order ? Why can’t the deals be in place within 12 months, surely the negotiations will be ‘easy’’.

5 Any proof? Or are you just making it up?

1) Because it's widely abused. If we all paid for ourselves, that would be the definition of fairness.

2) Serious crimes against children. Terrorism. Treason. Sadistic murders involving torture. Heinous crimes against animals.

Because these people lack humanity and people don't want to pay to lock them up, or ever see them released.

3) Any ruling they've ever made which overrules the UK's courts. Doesn't matter the context. It's about sovereignty.

4) Yes trade deals take time. Nobody is denying that. Even a few years of WTO is worth it for the medium and long term gain.

5) I'm sure you can see the pervasiveness of feminism, multiculturalism, gender politics, "equality" etc in society. The people that advocate these destructive ideas are almost all Remainers. This reason alone is enough for many to vote Brexit. At literally any price.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"1 why does it need to be abolished ?

2 why do you want the death penalty and what crimes would it be used for ?

3 any examples of these ‘many’ decisions .

4 it is the EU , US and China in that order ? Why can’t the deals be in place within 12 months, surely the negotiations will be ‘easy’’.

5 Any proof? Or are you just making it up?

1) Because it's widely abused. If we all paid for ourselves, that would be the definition of fairness.

2) Serious crimes against children. Terrorism. Treason. Sadistic murders involving torture. Heinous crimes against animals.

Because these people lack humanity and people don't want to pay to lock them up, or ever see them released.

3) Any ruling they've ever made which overrules the UK's courts. Doesn't matter the context. It's about sovereignty.

4) Yes trade deals take time. Nobody is denying that. Even a few years of WTO is worth it for the medium and long term gain.

Fair play, you are the only person I have spoken to who voted to leave that has been able to give their reasons for doing so. I completely disagree with everything you have said and your reasoning for number 5 confirms what type of person you are and why you and others really voted for Brexit .

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"i dont think we will rejoin watever happens.a lot of the politicians who wanted to remain wanted to stay with all the special privlages we had.not so many will want to rejoin when we are treated just the same as all the other countrys who have joined"

It depends on what happens when we leave. if the EU thrives and the promises that have been made by the Brexit leaders haven’t been kept combined with the older generation (the majority of which voted to leave ) dying then I can see a reason why we would want to rejoin

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"1 why does it need to be abolished ?

2 why do you want the death penalty and what crimes would it be used for ?

3 any examples of these ‘many’ decisions .

4 it is the EU , US and China in that order ? Why can’t the deals be in place within 12 months, surely the negotiations will be ‘easy’’.

5 Any proof? Or are you just making it up?

1) Because it's widely abused. If we all paid for ourselves, that would be the definition of fairness.

2) Serious crimes against children. Terrorism. Treason. Sadistic murders involving torture. Heinous crimes against animals.

Because these people lack humanity and people don't want to pay to lock them up, or ever see them released.

3) Any ruling they've ever made which overrules the UK's courts. Doesn't matter the context. It's about sovereignty.

4) Yes trade deals take time. Nobody is denying that. Even a few years of WTO is worth it for the medium and long term gain.

Absolutely shocking that human beings like you still exist in the world.

Utterly abhorrent opinions every time you post up on here.

If I was a leaver I'd be ashamed of these caveman like attitudes you associate with brexit.

Plenty of people who voted leave are good people, I believe misguided. But to suggest they're all as hateful and ignorant as you is patronising to the extreme.

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By *pitfiremk10Man
over a year ago

Gloucester

"There are no such things as leavers or remainers . We are leaving. Move on. Chill out. Or forever be a bitter loser ."

Oh ABSOLUTELY HEAR HEAR

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"1 why does it need to be abolished ?

2 why do you want the death penalty and what crimes would it be used for ?

3 any examples of these ‘many’ decisions .

4 it is the EU , US and China in that order ? Why can’t the deals be in place within 12 months, surely the negotiations will be ‘easy’’.

5 Any proof? Or are you just making it up?

1) Because it's widely abused. If we all paid for ourselves, that would be the definition of fairness.

2) Serious crimes against children. Terrorism. Treason. Sadistic murders involving torture. Heinous crimes against animals.

Because these people lack humanity and people don't want to pay to lock them up, or ever see them released.

3) Any ruling they've ever made which overrules the UK's courts. Doesn't matter the context. It's about sovereignty.

4) Yes trade deals take time. Nobody is denying that. Even a few years of WTO is worth it for the medium and long term gain.

Absolutely shocking that human beings like you still exist in the world.

Utterly abhorrent opinions every time you post up on here.

If I was a leaver I'd be ashamed of these caveman like attitudes you associate with brexit.

Plenty of people who voted leave are good people, I believe misguided. But to suggest they're all as hateful and ignorant as you is patronising to the extreme.

It is important not to get angry with him , instead pity him. He is obviously a misinformed, frightened and deluded troll making controversial statements to get attention and fill the empty void in his life . Are there any other leave voters who agree with the points he has made ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"There are no such things as leavers or remainers . We are leaving. Move on. Chill out. Or forever be a bitter loser .

Oh ABSOLUTELY HEAR HEAR

You voted to leave the EU?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

3 what has the ECJ done that you are most opposed to?

3) Overruling many decisions by our courts. Therefore undermining our justice system

I'd love to know a few examples of this and what the ramifications have been due to such overrulings.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"1 why does it need to be abolished ?

2 why do you want the death penalty and what crimes would it be used for ?

3 any examples of these ‘many’ decisions .

4 it is the EU , US and China in that order ? Why can’t the deals be in place within 12 months, surely the negotiations will be ‘easy’’.

5 Any proof? Or are you just making it up?

1) Because it's widely abused. If we all paid for ourselves, that would be the definition of fairness.

2) Serious crimes against children. Terrorism. Treason. Sadistic murders involving torture. Heinous crimes against animals.

Because these people lack humanity and people don't want to pay to lock them up, or ever see them released.

3) Any ruling they've ever made which overrules the UK's courts. Doesn't matter the context. It's about sovereignty.

4) Yes trade deals take time. Nobody is denying that. Even a few years of WTO is worth it for the medium and long term gain.

Absolutely shocking that human beings like you still exist in the world.

Utterly abhorrent opinions every time you post up on here.

If I was a leaver I'd be ashamed of these caveman like attitudes you associate with brexit.

Plenty of people who voted leave are good people, I believe misguided. But to suggest they're all as hateful and ignorant as you is patronising to the extreme.

True true. Not really angry. Just shocked that any human could be like him.

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By *pitfiremk10Man
over a year ago

Gloucester

"There are no such things as leavers or remainers . We are leaving. Move on. Chill out. Or forever be a bitter loser .

Oh ABSOLUTELY HEAR HEAR

You voted to leave the EU? "

Is it relevant how I voted?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"1 why does it need to be abolished ?

2 why do you want the death penalty and what crimes would it be used for ?

3 any examples of these ‘many’ decisions .

4 it is the EU , US and China in that order ? Why can’t the deals be in place within 12 months, surely the negotiations will be ‘easy’’.

5 Any proof? Or are you just making it up?

1) Because it's widely abused. If we all paid for ourselves, that would be the definition of fairness.

2) Serious crimes against children. Terrorism. Treason. Sadistic murders involving torture. Heinous crimes against animals.

Because these people lack humanity and people don't want to pay to lock them up, or ever see them released.

3) Any ruling they've ever made which overrules the UK's courts. Doesn't matter the context. It's about sovereignty.

4) Yes trade deals take time. Nobody is denying that. Even a few years of WTO is worth it for the medium and long term gain.

Absolutely shocking that human beings like you still exist in the world.

Utterly abhorrent opinions every time you post up on here.

If I was a leaver I'd be ashamed of these caveman like attitudes you associate with brexit.

Plenty of people who voted leave are good people, I believe misguided. But to suggest they're all as hateful and ignorant as you is patronising to the extreme.

True true. Not really angry. Just shocked that any human could be like him."

I would like to think he doesn’t really have these views and he is just attention seeking .

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"There are no such things as leavers or remainers . We are leaving. Move on. Chill out. Or forever be a bitter loser .

Oh ABSOLUTELY HEAR HEAR

You voted to leave the EU?

Is it relevant how I voted?"

Not at all, it was merely a question? You can answer or not answer it ?

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By *pitfiremk10Man
over a year ago

Gloucester

"There are no such things as leavers or remainers . We are leaving. Move on. Chill out. Or forever be a bitter loser .

Oh ABSOLUTELY HEAR HEAR

You voted to leave the EU?

Is it relevant how I voted?

Not at all, it was merely a question? You can answer or not answer it ? "

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By *pitfiremk10Man
over a year ago

Gloucester

"There are no such things as leavers or remainers . We are leaving. Move on. Chill out. Or forever be a bitter loser .

Oh ABSOLUTELY HEAR HEAR

You voted to leave the EU?

Is it relevant how I voted?

Not at all, it was merely a question? You can answer or not answer it ? "

I voted leave.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"There are no such things as leavers or remainers . We are leaving. Move on. Chill out. Or forever be a bitter loser .

Oh ABSOLUTELY HEAR HEAR

You voted to leave the EU?

Is it relevant how I voted?

Not at all, it was merely a question? You can answer or not answer it ?

I voted leave. "

Can I ask why? you don’t have to answer if you don’t want to or don’t know the reasons?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

2) Death penalty. Which is directly prohibited in EU law"

I'd happily see the death penalty brought back for terrorism, murder and sexual assault cases on children etc that are 100% proven.

I'd have no qualms about it at all.

It'll never happen though unfortunately

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By *estivalMan
over a year ago

borehamwood

i personaly didnt vote but this idea its mainly the old who voted leave i dont buy.the ones i know who botherd to vote are pretty evenly split.know plenty of young and old who voted to stay and prob same amount of both groups who voted out. i know u would like to rejoin but really dont think re joining would win unless it was with the same deal we had before.just cant see enough wanting to rejoin lock stock and barrel

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By *pitfiremk10Man
over a year ago

Gloucester

"There are no such things as leavers or remainers . We are leaving. Move on. Chill out. Or forever be a bitter loser .

Oh ABSOLUTELY HEAR HEAR

You voted to leave the EU?

Is it relevant how I voted?

Not at all, it was merely a question? You can answer or not answer it ?

I voted leave.

Can I ask why? you don’t have to answer if you don’t want to or don’t know the reasons? "

I choose not to give my reasons. Not relevant now in any case to be fair, we had the referendum and got the result. So let's just move on.

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By *hMyGawdCouple
over a year ago

Midlands

"Absolutely shocking that human beings like you still exist in the world.

Utterly abhorrent opinions every time you post up on here.

If I was a leaver I'd be ashamed of these caveman like attitudes you associate with brexit.

Plenty of people who voted leave are good people, I believe misguided. But to suggest they're all as hateful and ignorant as you is patronising to the extreme.

Look at the "ashcroft polls". Peer reviewed research that shows strong links between these views and voting to Leave.

You are utterly oblivious to the direction this country (and the US) is heading. We are marching to the hard right.

Open your eyes.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Who voted out because they wanted the death penalty brought back for “Heinous crimes against animals.”

Fuck me ! I’ve read it all now.!

Best example of a dribbling mind yet in the forum.

Give ya head a wobble...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Absolutely shocking that human beings like you still exist in the world.

Utterly abhorrent opinions every time you post up on here.

If I was a leaver I'd be ashamed of these caveman like attitudes you associate with brexit.

Plenty of people who voted leave are good people, I believe misguided. But to suggest they're all as hateful and ignorant as you is patronising to the extreme.

Look at the "ashcroft polls". Peer reviewed research that shows strong links between these views and voting to Leave.

You are utterly oblivious to the direction this country (and the US) is heading. We are marching to the hard right.

Open your eyes."

The majority of the older generation voted to leave, they will be dead in 30 years, you are backing the wrong horse my frightened friend, open your eyes

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"There are no such things as leavers or remainers . We are leaving. Move on. Chill out. Or forever be a bitter loser .

Oh ABSOLUTELY HEAR HEAR

You voted to leave the EU?

Is it relevant how I voted?

Not at all, it was merely a question? You can answer or not answer it ?

I voted leave.

Can I ask why? you don’t have to answer if you don’t want to or don’t know the reasons?

I choose not to give my reasons. Not relevant now in any case to be fair, we had the referendum and got the result. So let's just move on."

Fair enough, I wasn’t expecting you to give any reasons and you are correct , we need to move on. What benefits are you hoping for from Brexit

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

You are probably right , but if Brexit is a cluster fuck and people start to realise that they were lied to then I can see us rejoining ? I am hoping that Brexit is going to be the success we were all promised though

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Who voted out because they wanted the death penalty brought back for “Heinous crimes against animals.”

Fuck me ! I’ve read it all now.!

Best example of a dribbling mind yet in the forum.

Give ya head a wobble...

I know, forget about human rights, let’s hang the fuckers for killing dogs

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By *estivalMan
over a year ago

borehamwood

brexit will never trickle down to the public same way the e.u was never for the public.its all about buisness we swqpping one load of trade for another load of trade.as for free movement that was to make it easier to move slave labour about easier holidays was just a side effect.all the counteys in the e.u give a fuck about there people about as much as our own country gives a fuck about us.just most peeps cant see that that public are something they have to put up with

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Absolutely shocking that human beings like you still exist in the world.

Utterly abhorrent opinions every time you post up on here.

If I was a leaver I'd be ashamed of these caveman like attitudes you associate with brexit.

Plenty of people who voted leave are good people, I believe misguided. But to suggest they're all as hateful and ignorant as you is patronising to the extreme.

Look at the "ashcroft polls". Peer reviewed research that shows strong links between these views and voting to Leave.

You are utterly oblivious to the direction this country (and the US) is heading. We are marching to the hard right.

Open your eyes."

For sure there is a surge in the far right.

Let's hope it doesn't go as far as it did in the 1940s.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Am I right in thinking that your analyses of the situation is we won’t be any better off out of the EU as we were in because big business will fuck the working man regardless..

We just won’t get the same rights to holidays??? And any benefits of Brexit won’t trickle down to the masses??

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By *estivalMan
over a year ago

borehamwood

it will benefit us as much as being in the e.u benifeted the masses.we may get something from it but its for trade same way the e.u is for trade rather than the people.like i said any benefits we get are a side effect.same way any benefits of being in the eu are a side effect.but im sure the great oracle bob will put me in my place. thats one thing u remainers and leavers have in common if it dont match in with what either side think everyone else dont know what there talking about.one thing ive learnt from these forums is all the so called experts on both sides make all these predictions most of wich are way off the mark

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By *oxychick35Couple
over a year ago

thornaby

Am I right in thinking that your analyses of the situation is we won’t be any better off out of the EU as we were in because big business will fuck the working man regardless..

We just won’t get the same rights to holidays??? And any benefits of Brexit won’t trickle down to the masses??

"
bob what do you think will happen to our rights to holidays ??

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Am I right in thinking that your analyses of the situation is we won’t be any better off out of the EU as we were in because big business will fuck the working man regardless..

We just won’t get the same rights to holidays??? And any benefits of Brexit won’t trickle down to the masses??

bob what do you think will happen to our rights to holidays ??"

I have no idea . but I think _estival was saying there will be no tangible benefits to Brexit and there were no benefits to staying in.

Dammed if you do and dammed if you don’t...

If that’s what he believes then I can only assume he thinks brexit has been a waste of time as there will be no benefit because business always gets what it wants..

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By *hMyGawdCouple
over a year ago

Midlands

Who voted out because they wanted the death penalty brought back for “Heinous crimes against animals.”

Fuck me ! I’ve read it all now.!

Best example of a dribbling mind yet in the forum.

Give ya head a wobble...

You really don't have any intellectual capacity.

Voting out means we are soon free to enact the death penalty.

PLENTY of people want the death penalty for serious crimes.

Is that hard to understand?

It's just one of the many, many fringe benefits of Brexit.

Get over it, you lost

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Who voted out because they wanted the death penalty brought back for “Heinous crimes against animals.”

Fuck me ! I’ve read it all now.!

Best example of a dribbling mind yet in the forum.

Give ya head a wobble...

You really don't have any intellectual capacity.

Voting out means we are soon free to enact the death penalty.

PLENTY of people want the death penalty for serious crimes.

Is that hard to understand?

It's just one of the many, many fringe benefits of Brexit.

Get over it, you lost

Hands up who voted to leave to bring back the death penalty for animal cruelty...

I’m going to guess you’re on your own fella..

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By *estivalMan
over a year ago

borehamwood

bob i couldnt care less if brexit was a waste of time i just giving my view thats all.the e.u is about trade nothing else any benefits for the public of being in are a side effect of wats good for buisness same as what will prob happen outside the e.u.wats up mate dont ya want to que at the airport nxt time u go on holiday? spread ya wings mate there a whole world out there and hey if its made that difficult to travel to the e.u in future think about giving ya money to a more deserving country.just a idea

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By *hMyGawdCouple
over a year ago

Midlands

"Hands up who voted to leave to bring back the death penalty for animal cruelty...

I’m going to guess you’re on your own fella..

How would you deal with people torturing animals?

Couple of years inside? A slap on the wrist?

Please, enlighten us.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Christ almighty....when you read some of the donkey sh*t some people post on here it beggars belief! From the rebel at any cost who knocks everything pro and anti society to the openly fascistic who want to kill anybody who doesnt play the white man its really astonishing that some people can even type let alone string a sensible narrative together. God help us all if this is the future of society!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Hands up who voted to leave to bring back the death penalty for animal cruelty...

I’m going to guess you’re on your own fella..

How would you deal with people torturing animals?

Couple of years inside? A slap on the wrist?

Please, enlighten us."

I’m happy with law as it is .

Do think the guys in red coats chasing a fox and letting hounds tear a fox it to little pieces should swing from the gallows’s.

Or maybe a kid who tortured cats should get the electric chair..

When you say fringe benefits of Brexit.

Is that the lunatic fringe. ?

Have word with yourself..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Hands up who voted to leave to bring back the death penalty for animal cruelty...

I’m going to guess you’re on your own fella..

How would you deal with people torturing animals?

Couple of years inside? A slap on the wrist?

Please, enlighten us.

I’m happy with law as it is .

Do think the guys in red coats chasing a fox and letting hounds tear a fox it to little pieces should swing from the gallows’s.

Or maybe a kid who tortured cats should get the electric chair..

When you say fringe benefits of Brexit.

Is that the lunatic fringe. ?

Have word with yourself..

I am guessing he likes dogs more than people?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Hands up who voted to leave to bring back the death penalty for animal cruelty...

I’m going to guess you’re on your own fella..

How would you deal with people torturing animals?

Couple of years inside? A slap on the wrist?

Please, enlighten us.

I’m happy with law as it is .

Do think the guys in red coats chasing a fox and letting hounds tear a fox it to little pieces should swing from the gallows’s.

Or maybe a kid who tortured cats should get the electric chair..

When you say fringe benefits of Brexit.

Is that the lunatic fringe. ?

Have word with yourself..

I am guessing he likes dogs more than people?

Im guessing he’s a pork pie short of a picnic..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Hands up who voted to leave to bring back the death penalty for animal cruelty...

I’m going to guess you’re on your own fella..

How would you deal with people torturing animals?

Couple of years inside? A slap on the wrist?

Please, enlighten us."

Are you suggesting that animals should have the same ‘rights’ as people?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Who voted out because they wanted the death penalty brought back for “Heinous crimes against animals.”

Fuck me ! I’ve read it all now.!

Best example of a dribbling mind yet in the forum.

Give ya head a wobble...

You really don't have any intellectual capacity.

Voting out means we are soon free to enact the death penalty.

PLENTY of people want the death penalty for serious crimes.

Is that hard to understand?

It's just one of the many, many fringe benefits of Brexit.

Get over it, you lost

But Brexit is going to be amazing? Nobody has ‘lost’ we are all going to win ??

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By *hMyGawdCouple
over a year ago

Midlands

"Are you suggesting that animals should have the same ‘rights’ as people?

I'm suggesting those who seriously hurt them should get more than a slap on the wrist.

I'm not talking about kicking someone's dog that bit you. I'm talking about sadistic acts like mutilation and torture.

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By *hMyGawdCouple
over a year ago

Midlands

"I am guessing he likes dogs more than people?

I actually can't stand dogs.

But would never wish harm upon them or any animal.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Are you suggesting that animals should have the same ‘rights’ as people?

I'm suggesting those who seriously hurt them should get more than a slap on the wrist.

I'm not talking about kicking someone's dog that bit you. I'm talking about sadistic acts like mutilation and torture."

Try reading your previous post. The death penalty for sadism on animals ? Woof woof

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By *estivalMan
over a year ago

borehamwood

"Christ almighty....when you read some of the donkey sh*t some people post on here it beggars belief! From the rebel at any cost who knocks everything pro and anti society to the openly fascistic who want to kill anybody who doesnt play the white man its really astonishing that some people can even type let alone string a sensible narrative together. God help us all if this is the future of society!

yea some of the so called experts on here are wrong again and again yet they still expect people to belive they know what there talking about.shocking i tell thee

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Are you suggesting that animals should have the same ‘rights’ as people?

I'm suggesting those who seriously hurt them should get more than a slap on the wrist.

I'm not talking about kicking someone's dog that bit you. I'm talking about sadistic acts like mutilation and torture.

Try reading your previous post. The death penalty for sadism on animals ? Woof woof "

Sorry , I ment heinous ? Woof woof

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

yea some of the so called experts on here are wrong again and again yet they still expect people to belive they know what there talking about.shocking i tell thee

Which experts ? Has anybody been proved right or wrong regarding Brexit ? We haven’t left yet

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By *hMyGawdCouple
over a year ago

Midlands

"Try reading your previous post. The death penalty for sadism on animals ? Woof woof "

How would you punish somebody who uses a blade to cut open and mutilate the innards of animals. Let's say several horses.

What would you do? Is that a human being you want in your town? In your street? Around your family?

Get a grip

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"bob i couldnt care less if brexit was a waste of time i just giving my view thats all.the e.u is about trade nothing else any benefits for the public of being in are a side effect of wats good for buisness same as what will prob happen outside the e.u.wats up mate dont ya want to que at the airport nxt time u go on holiday? spread ya wings mate there a whole world out there and hey if its made that difficult to travel to the e.u in future think about giving ya money to a more deserving country.just a idea"

I normally don’t holiday in the EU.

Mostly South east Asia and the Caribbean.

Where do you holiday??

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Try reading your previous post. The death penalty for sadism on animals ? Woof woof

How would you punish somebody who uses a blade to cut open and mutilate the innards of animals. Let's say several horses.

What would you do? Is that a human being you want in your town? In your street? Around your family?

Get a grip

Are chickens , cows and pigs animals ? Those evil butchers need hanging ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Try reading your previous post. The death penalty for sadism on animals ? Woof woof

How would you punish somebody who uses a blade to cut open and mutilate the innards of animals. Let's say several horses.

What would you do? Is that a human being you want in your town? In your street? Around your family?

Get a grip

Are chickens , cows and pigs animals ? Those evil butchers need hanging ?

I think he might be a far right militant vegan ..Not something you see everyday

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Try reading your previous post. The death penalty for sadism on animals ? Woof woof

How would you punish somebody who uses a blade to cut open and mutilate the innards of animals. Let's say several horses.

What would you do? Is that a human being you want in your town? In your street? Around your family?

Get a grip

Are chickens , cows and pigs animals ? Those evil butchers need hanging ?

I think he might be a far right militant vegan ..Not something you see everyday

Haha, he obviously endorses speciesism , a kind hearted animal lover who doest like to see them get hurt , bless him . I knew he was kind man and his normal posts are a cry for help

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Try reading your previous post. The death penalty for sadism on animals ? Woof woof

How would you punish somebody who uses a blade to cut open and mutilate the innards of animals. Let's say several horses.

What would you do? Is that a human being you want in your town? In your street? Around your family?

Get a grip

Punishment for the vast majority of crimes is too lenient in my view but I wouldn't go as far as the death penalty for cruilty to animals, maybe a good 5 year stretch.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Try reading your previous post. The death penalty for sadism on animals ? Woof woof

How would you punish somebody who uses a blade to cut open and mutilate the innards of animals. Let's say several horses.

What would you do? Is that a human being you want in your town? In your street? Around your family?

Get a grip

Punishment for the vast majority of crimes is too lenient in my view but I wouldn't go as far as the death penalty for cruilty to animals, maybe a good 5 year stretch. "

Are the EU to blame for lenient sentences for cruelty to animals?

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By *estivalMan
over a year ago

borehamwood

I normally don’t holiday in the EU.

Mostly South east Asia and the Caribbean.

Where do you holiday??"

not been to eu in over a decade now.prefer thailand vietnam aus and malaysia was pretty cool aswell.thinking south america for my nxt jaunt just deciding peru or quiet fancy belize bit dangerous but loads of fun i reakon

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Try reading your previous post. The death penalty for sadism on animals ? Woof woof

How would you punish somebody who uses a blade to cut open and mutilate the innards of animals. Let's say several horses.

What would you do? Is that a human being you want in your town? In your street? Around your family?

Get a grip

Are chickens , cows and pigs animals ? Those evil butchers need hanging ?

I think he might be a far right militant vegan ..Not something you see everyday

Are you suggesting his name might be adolf?

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By *hMyGawdCouple
over a year ago

Midlands

Not a vegan. Can't abide their politics.

Not far right. More of an anarcho-capitalist fighting for a nightwatchman system of government.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Not a vegan. Can't abide their politics.

Not far right. More of an anarcho-capitalist fighting for a nightwatchman system of government."

Haha haha, comedy gold

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I normally don’t holiday in the EU.

Mostly South east Asia and the Caribbean.

Where do you holiday??

Belize is ok .

Belize is very Afro Caribean rather than Hispanics/ Latino.

Belize city is a bit of joke and can be dodgy.Lots of drugs and whores .I meet some nice Rastas there who gave me a tour of some of the dodgy neighbourhoods.I was there in the 1990s so much has probably changed .

I would go to Guatemala if your in the area.Or even Honduras.Stunning Mayan ruins .Great people .

Cheap as chips also.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Not a vegan. Can't abide their politics.

Not far right. More of an anarcho-capitalist fighting for a nightwatchman system of government."

WTF

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Not a vegan. Can't abide their politics.

Not far right. More of an anarcho-capitalist fighting for a nightwatchman system of government.

WTF

Indeed..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Try reading your previous post. The death penalty for sadism on animals ? Woof woof

How would you punish somebody who uses a blade to cut open and mutilate the innards of animals. Let's say several horses.

What would you do? Is that a human being you want in your town? In your street? Around your family?

Get a grip

Punishment for the vast majority of crimes is too lenient in my view but I wouldn't go as far as the death penalty for cruilty to animals, maybe a good 5 year stretch.

Are the EU to blame for lenient sentences for cruelty to animals? "

How the hell should I know? do you?

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By *hMyGawdCouple
over a year ago

Midlands

Back to the original question on "benefits of Brexit", we will no longer be bound by protocol 6 in the ECHR legislation.

So we will be free to reinstate the death penalty.

It's something I've personally raised with Dominic Cummings.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Back to the original question on "benefits of Brexit", we will no longer be bound by protocol 6 in the ECHR legislation.

So we will be free to reinstate the death penalty.

It's something I've personally raised with Dominic Cummings."

Jesus H Christ...,you really think thats a positive thing? That Macchavellian cunt is overdue a short sharp shock

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Back to the original question on "benefits of Brexit", we will no longer be bound by protocol 6 in the ECHR legislation.

So we will be free to reinstate the death penalty.

It's something I've personally raised with Dominic Cummings."

Personally raised? Hahaha, like he will take any notice

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Try reading your previous post. The death penalty for sadism on animals ? Woof woof

How would you punish somebody who uses a blade to cut open and mutilate the innards of animals. Let's say several horses.

What would you do? Is that a human being you want in your town? In your street? Around your family?

Get a grip

Punishment for the vast majority of crimes is too lenient in my view but I wouldn't go as far as the death penalty for cruilty to animals, maybe a good 5 year stretch.

Are the EU to blame for lenient sentences for cruelty to animals?

How the hell should I know? do you? "

I have no idea, hence why I asked the question, this thread is about leaving the EU ??

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Try reading your previous post. The death penalty for sadism on animals ? Woof woof

How would you punish somebody who uses a blade to cut open and mutilate the innards of animals. Let's say several horses.

What would you do? Is that a human being you want in your town? In your street? Around your family?

Get a grip

You're a human being (I assume) and I do t want you in my town, my street, or around my family.

But I certainly wouldn't advocate executing you.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Back to the original question on "benefits of Brexit", we will no longer be bound by protocol 6 in the ECHR legislation.

So we will be free to reinstate the death penalty.

It's something I've personally raised with Dominic Cummings."

So, just to be clear. The main benefit of Brexit for you, is that you feel it justifies some of your bizzare ideas. Such as the death penalty for someone who works at an abattoir.

"It's life Jim, but not as we know it".

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By *estivalMan
over a year ago

borehamwood

I normally don’t holiday in the EU.

Mostly South east Asia and the Caribbean.

Where do you holiday??

Belize is ok .

Belize is very Afro Caribean rather than Hispanics/ Latino.

I would go to Guatemala if your in the area.Or even Honduras.Stunning Mayan ruins .Great people .

Cheap as chips also.

got a mate who was there a cpl years ago and said the place is a bit crazy and for him to say its crazy it must be nuts so i doubt much has changed since u was last there.i will remember not to carry anything on the plane for anyone lol

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By *an For YouMan
over a year ago

belfast/holywood

I normally don’t holiday in the EU.

Mostly South east Asia and the Caribbean.

Where do you holiday??

Belize is ok .

Belize is very Afro Caribean rather than Hispanics/ Latino.

I would go to Guatemala if your in the area.Or even Honduras.Stunning Mayan ruins .Great people .

Cheap as chips also.

Yeah Belize can be a bit dodgy. One of the highest murder rates, gangs, r@pes, tourist mugging. Just be careful and stick to very public areas as in any 3rd world area

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Sounds like the fu**ing ideology of the Third Reich. This can not be true. They just want to be famous.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I normally don’t holiday in the EU.

Mostly South east Asia and the Caribbean.

Where do you holiday??

Belize is ok .

Belize is very Afro Caribean rather than Hispanics/ Latino.

I would go to Guatemala if your in the area.Or even Honduras.Stunning Mayan ruins .Great people .

Cheap as chips also.

Yeah Belize can be a bit dodgy. One of the highest murder rates, gangs, r@pes, tourist mugging. Just be careful and stick to very public areas as in any 3rd world area"

Sounds like post Brexit Britain. Lol.

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By *pitfiremk10Man
over a year ago

Gloucester

I normally don’t holiday in the EU.

Mostly South east Asia and the Caribbean.

Where do you holiday??

Belize is ok .

Belize is very Afro Caribean rather than Hispanics/ Latino.

I would go to Guatemala if your in the area.Or even Honduras.Stunning Mayan ruins .Great people .

Cheap as chips also.

Yeah Belize can be a bit dodgy. One of the highest murder rates, gangs, r@pes, tourist mugging. Just be careful and stick to very public areas as in any 3rd world area

Sounds like post Brexit Britain. Lol."

Actually sounds like pre brexit Britain. Have you seen the crime figures.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I normally don’t holiday in the EU.

Mostly South east Asia and the Caribbean.

Where do you holiday??

Belize is ok .

Belize is very Afro Caribean rather than Hispanics/ Latino.

I would go to Guatemala if your in the area.Or even Honduras.Stunning Mayan ruins .Great people .

Cheap as chips also.

Yeah Belize can be a bit dodgy. One of the highest murder rates, gangs, r@pes, tourist mugging. Just be careful and stick to very public areas as in any 3rd world area

Sounds like post Brexit Britain. Lol.

Actually sounds like pre brexit Britain. Have you seen the crime figures."

I didn’t read on the side of the big red bus that Brexit would reduce crime..

Who knew..

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By *oxychick35Couple
over a year ago

thornaby

I normally don’t holiday in the EU.

Mostly South east Asia and the Caribbean.

Where do you holiday??

Belize is ok .

Belize is very Afro Caribean rather than Hispanics/ Latino.

I would go to Guatemala if your in the area.Or even Honduras.Stunning Mayan ruins .Great people .

Cheap as chips also.

Yeah Belize can be a bit dodgy. One of the highest murder rates, gangs, r@pes, tourist mugging. Just be careful and stick to very public areas as in any 3rd world area

Sounds like post Brexit Britain. Lol.

Actually sounds like pre brexit Britain. Have you seen the crime figures.

I didn’t read on the side of the big red bus that Brexit would reduce crime.. according to fabio we were going to have troops on the streets to stop the wide spread rioting due to food and medicine shortages that asnt happened either

Who knew..

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By *oi_LucyCouple
over a year ago

Barbados

"Back to the original question on "benefits of Brexit", we will no longer be bound by protocol 6 in the ECHR legislation.

So we will be free to reinstate the death penalty.

It's something I've personally raised with Dominic Cummings."

Not bound in what way? We are not leaving the ECHR.

-Matt

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By *ara JTV/TS
over a year ago

Bristol East

"Back to the original question on "benefits of Brexit", we will no longer be bound by protocol 6 in the ECHR legislation.

So we will be free to reinstate the death penalty.

False.

The European Convention of Human Rights is completely separate from the European Union.

The Conservative manifesto of December 2019 promised only to "update" the Human Rights Act, the legislation that enacts the ECHR in UK law.

There was no mention of leaving the ECHR.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

So far so good. Just think what Boris Johnson has achieved in his short time in office. Power sharing in Northern Ireland they are now talking. Smashed the general election and now have a majority in parliament.

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By *orksCouple25Couple
over a year ago

Leeds

The idea we will rejoin because the older people will have died off is not only insulting to our older generation but is silly because young people who voted to remain become older themselves and therefore replace the ones who have died off. It’s the same with Students voting Labour when they aren’t paying any taxes changing to the Tories as they get older and getting more experience of life .As leaver I would be happy with a referendum every generation though (say 25 years) and if we vote to rejoin i would accept it.

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By *lair101TV/TS
over a year ago

Aberdeen, westhill

"Don't mind rules...live to what you are given ...no one knows what the rules will be yet anyway

In other words, shut up and do as you are told...

No wonder people voted how they were told to vote by the right wing press in the referendum.

It's funny cos it's true

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By *oi_LucyCouple
over a year ago

Barbados

"Back to the original question on "benefits of Brexit", we will no longer be bound by protocol 6 in the ECHR legislation.

So we will be free to reinstate the death penalty.

It's something I've personally raised with Dominic Cummings.

Not bound in what way? We are not leaving the ECHR.

-Matt"

Tumble.

So.... any other "benefits" you were conned into mistakenly thinking we'd get leaving the EU?

-Matt

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By *hMyGawdCouple
over a year ago

Midlands

"So.... any other "benefits" you were conned into mistakenly thinking we'd get leaving the EU?

-Matt"

Turn the question around, what are the benefits of staying? All we really see as cruical is some of the excellent environmental laws the EU has enforced. We hope they are enshrined in UK law.

As we've always said, even if there's zero benefits to leaving (which is doubtful) and all we get is the saving of the membership fee, it's worth leaving purely to spite the sorts of people that voted Remain. It's what they deserve from the damage they've done to every aspect of society.

There's also the factor of politicians respecting the 2016 vote. Even if it was a mistake, we feel honouring a mistake is more important than undermining it and doing a U-turn.

In a nutshell, Democracy and fighting back against Remainers is far, far more important than any actual tangible benefits.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"So.... any other "benefits" you were conned into mistakenly thinking we'd get leaving the EU?

-Matt

Turn the question around, what are the benefits of staying? All we really see as cruical is some of the excellent environmental laws the EU has enforced. We hope they are enshrined in UK law.

There's also the factor of politicians respecting the 2016 vote. Even if it was a mistake, we feel honouring a mistake is more important than undermining it and doing a U-turn.

In a nutshell, Democracy and fighting back against Remainers is far, far more important than any actual tangible benefits. "

In a nutshell that sums up a large number of leave voters. A juvenile and petty attitude from the ‘we won, you lost brigade’ . I hope Brexit is a success but some leave voters need to start acting like adults. How are you going to celebrate on the 31st? Do some donuts in your second hand car

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over a year ago

"So far so good. Just think what Boris Johnson has achieved in his short time in office. Power sharing in Northern Ireland they are now talking. Smashed the general election and now have a majority in parliament. "

Wow, amazing , I bet that hasn’t happened before

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Why not, we voted to join in 1975, that generation has died, now we have voted to leave? The next generation will want to rejoin , nothing lasts forever

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By *oi_LucyCouple
over a year ago

Barbados

"So.... any other "benefits" you were conned into mistakenly thinking we'd get leaving the EU?

-Matt

Turn the question around, what are the benefits of staying? All we really see as cruical is some of the excellent environmental laws the EU has enforced. We hope they are enshrined in UK law.

There's also the factor of politicians respecting the 2016 vote. Even if it was a mistake, we feel honouring a mistake is more important than undermining it and doing a U-turn.

In a nutshell, Democracy and fighting back against Remainers is far, far more important than any actual tangible benefits. "

A few benefits just off the top of my head:

- freedom of movement

- common standards and regulatory alignment

- financial passporting

- being within the largest single market on the planet

And your argument is that we won't get any savings in membership fee, but it will "spite" half the country? Really?

A pretty cuntish outlook.

-Matt

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over a year ago

In a nutshell that sums up a large number of leave voters. A juvenile and petty attitude from the ‘we won The Daily Star, You know she's from Sweden you lost brigade’ . I hope Brexit is a success

but some leave voters need to start acting like adults. "

No fucking chance

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"So.... any other "benefits" you were conned into mistakenly thinking we'd get leaving the EU?

-Matt

Turn the question around, what are the benefits of staying? All we really see as cruical is some of the excellent environmental laws the EU has enforced. We hope they are enshrined in UK law.

There's also the factor of politicians respecting the 2016 vote. Even if it was a mistake, we feel honouring a mistake is more important than undermining it and doing a U-turn.

In a nutshell, Democracy and fighting back against Remainers is far, far more important than any actual tangible benefits.

A few benefits just off the top of my head:

- freedom of movement

- common standards and regulatory alignment

- financial passporting

- being within the largest single market on the planet

And your argument is that we won't get any savings in membership fee, but it will "spite" half the country? Really?

A pretty cuntish outlook.

-Matt"

At least it's an honest opinion and reason from a leaver why they want Brexit and admitting there may not be any tangible benefits to leaving.

I think their honesty should be applauded

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By *hMyGawdCouple
over a year ago

Midlands

"A few benefits just off the top of my head:

- freedom of movement

- common standards and regulatory alignment

- financial passporting

- being within the largest single market on the planet"

Freedom of movement - Something the vast majority of people are against.

Common standards and regulatory alignment - Yeah, the reason we can't buy hairdryers or vacuum cleaners above a certain wattage. Or mis-shapen fruit. Brilliant

Financial passporting - Important only to Londoners. We hold them in contempt anyway so that doesn't matter.

Being within the largest single market on the planet - Or being unable to trade freely outside of it. Depends which way you look at it.

So, any reasons really worth staying for?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"A few benefits just off the top of my head:

- freedom of movement

- common standards and regulatory alignment

- financial passporting

- being within the largest single market on the planet

Freedom of movement - Something the vast majority of people are against.

Common standards and regulatory alignment - Yeah, the reason we can't buy hairdryers or vacuum cleaners above a certain wattage. Or mis-shapen fruit. Brilliant

Financial passporting - Important only to Londoners. We hold them in contempt anyway so that doesn't matter.

Being within the largest single market on the planet - Or being unable to trade freely outside of it. Depends which way you look at it.

So, any reasons really worth staying for?

Freedom of movement? The ‘vast’ majority are against it? Really? How many millions of people do you think that applies to?

Misshapen fruit? Hahaha, I can’t wait to buy some deformed fruit, another Brexit bonus.

Would it be fair to say that the majority of our trade is with EU countries? Can you explain why it will be better for us to trade with these countries when we leave ? Even the most hardline Brexit supporters realise this will be impossible .

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"A few benefits just off the top of my head:

- freedom of movement

- common standards and regulatory alignment

- financial passporting

- being within the largest single market on the planet

Freedom of movement - Something the vast majority of people are against.

Common standards and regulatory alignment - Yeah, the reason we can't buy hairdryers or vacuum cleaners above a certain wattage. Or mis-shapen fruit. Brilliant

Financial passporting - Important only to Londoners. We hold them in contempt anyway so that doesn't matter.

Being within the largest single market on the planet - Or being unable to trade freely outside of it. Depends which way you look at it.

So, any reasons really worth staying for?

You’ve really drink the daily mail kool-aid, haven’t ya!

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By *hMyGawdCouple
over a year ago

Midlands

"Freedom of movement? The ‘vast’ majority are against it? Really?"

Yes.

If you don't realise the appetite for closing our borders - you're massively out of touch with the majority of people in this country.

"Misshapen fruit? Hahaha, I can’t wait to buy some deformed fruit, another Brexit bonus. "

Just seems a waste to throw away perfectly good food. On an economic and environmental level.

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By *hMyGawdCouple
over a year ago

Midlands

"You’ve really drink the daily mail kool-aid, haven’t ya!"

Beats Guardian Gin!

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over a year ago

"Freedom of movement? The ‘vast’ majority are against it? Really?

Yes.

If you don't realise the appetite for closing our borders - you're massively out of touch with the majority of people in this country.

Then the majority of people in this country would do well to realise that we didn’t have ‘open borders’ even as an EU member.

We even chose not to enforce EU laws on immigration that could have reduced the number of EU migrants here.

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By *oi_LucyCouple
over a year ago

Barbados

"Freedom of movement? The ‘vast’ majority are against it? Really?

Yes.

If you don't realise the appetite for closing our borders - you're massively out of touch with the majority of people in this country.

Misshapen fruit? Hahaha, I can’t wait to buy some deformed fruit, another Brexit bonus.

Just seems a waste to throw away perfectly good food. On an economic and environmental level."

We already control our borders.

Answer me this then... if "control our borders" was such an issue, why did our own government not use the various powers it *already* had under EU law to restrict number of EU nationals coming into the country, or to better control those that are already here?

-Matt

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By *oi_LucyCouple
over a year ago

Barbados

"A few benefits just off the top of my head:

- freedom of movement

- common standards and regulatory alignment

- financial passporting

- being within the largest single market on the planet

Freedom of movement - Something the vast majority of people are against.

Common standards and regulatory alignment - Yeah, the reason we can't buy hairdryers or vacuum cleaners above a certain wattage. Or mis-shapen fruit. Brilliant

Financial passporting - Important only to Londoners. We hold them in contempt anyway so that doesn't matter.

Being within the largest single market on the planet - Or being unable to trade freely outside of it. Depends which way you look at it.

So, any reasons really worth staying for?

So you think it is worth all this time and money such that you can blast hotter air at your head?

That about sums it all up.

No financial passporting does not just apply to Londoners. It applies to our entire services sector.

As for trade, the numbers just don't support your view. The leave argument on trade is that by increasing friction with 70 countries, including those closest to us, and those we do most business with.... we can go in pursuit of some other smaller deals further away... that we have hardly even begun to negotiate and most likely would involve concession that compromise your hardline stance on immigration.

-Matt

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over a year ago

"Freedom of movement? The ‘vast’ majority are against it? Really?

Yes.

If you don't realise the appetite for closing our borders - you're massively out of touch with the majority of people in this country.

Misshapen fruit? Hahaha, I can’t wait to buy some deformed fruit, another Brexit bonus.

Just seems a waste to throw away perfectly good food. On an economic and environmental level."

Does it, do you think these bananas get thrown away? Or do you think they get used for other banana based products? I have traveled throughout the world I have yet to see a straight banana . Maybe you should try leaving stoke sometime

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Freedom of movement? The ‘vast’ majority are against it? Really?

Yes.

If you don't realise the appetite for closing our borders - you're massively out of touch with the majority of people in this country.

Misshapen fruit? Hahaha, I can’t wait to buy some deformed fruit, another Brexit bonus.

Just seems a waste to throw away perfectly good food. On an economic and environmental level."

You have used the same term again ‘vast majority’ how many people are we talking about here? 25-30 million ??

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Freedom of movement - Something the vast majority of people are against.

Common standards and regulatory alignment - Yeah, the reason we can't buy hairdryers or vacuum cleaners above a certain wattage. Or mis-shapen fruit. Brilliant

Financial passporting - Important only to Londoners. We hold them in contempt anyway so that doesn't matter.

Being within the largest single market on the planet - Or being unable to trade freely outside of it. Depends which way you look at it.

So, any reasons really worth staying for?

Vast majority against FOM?, sure it figures with a lot of people but I don't know about the vast majority.

Your regulatory alignment argument is just daft really if you actually looked into the why's and what's of it.

Financial passporting, you obviously know nothing about it going by your reply.

Single market, benefits on being in or out is very difficult to quantify.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Freedom of movement? The ‘vast’ majority are against it? Really?

Yes.

If you don't realise the appetite for closing our borders - you're massively out of touch with the majority of people in this country.

Misshapen fruit? Hahaha, I can’t wait to buy some deformed fruit, another Brexit bonus.

Just seems a waste to throw away perfectly good food. On an economic and environmental level.

Straight bananas. Only one man could come up with such a thing. I bet he is their hero.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"You’ve really drink the daily mail kool-aid, haven’t ya!

Beats Guardian Gin!"

Good advice. Stop drinking

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By *hMyGawdCouple
over a year ago

Midlands

Freedom of movement is irrevocably linked with immigration. Something which is of a concern to a majority of Brits. It's generally percieved to be a negative thing, rightly or wrongly. I suspect things like the sorts of people universally making up grooming gangs, or people blowing themselves up at concerts might have something to do with that. Outside of the metropolitan left, virtually everyone wants a reduction in immigration. So FOM will be stopped.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Freedom of movement is irrevocably linked with immigration. Something which is of a concern to a majority of Brits. It's generally percieved to be a negative thing, rightly or wrongly. I suspect things like the sorts of people universally making up grooming gangs, or people blowing themselves up at concerts might have something to do with that. Outside of the metropolitan left, virtually everyone wants a reduction in immigration. So FOM will be stopped."

Freedom of movement is also a right enjoyed by brits. A right that is being stripped of them.

What was it that they promised before the referendum? Oh, that’s it. The same rights will be enjoyed after Brexit as before.

Another obvious leaver lie.

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By *hMyGawdCouple
over a year ago

Midlands

Financial and services sector - again, massively a London-centric thing. Again, irrelevant or of little consequence to the majority of people.

These are all minor considerations compared to the big issues of democracy, immigration and freedom.

The bottom line is people who voted Leave knew all of these arguments before they went to the ballot box. On balance, people want to Leave. Some people won't understand that, as their biases are different.

It's all water under the bridge now anyway. Time to get on with more pressing business like destroying the BBC, ending political bias in education and ensuring the Tories stay in power for a generation

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By *hMyGawdCouple
over a year ago

Midlands

"Freedom of movement is also a right enjoyed by brits. A right that is being stripped of them."

So we might have to go online, pay a tenner and get a ticket to go on a driving holiday to France.

Again, irrelevant.

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By *hMyGawdCouple
over a year ago

Midlands

"Maybe you should try leaving stoke sometime

Made me chuckle

Wrong end of the Midlands. We're in Rushcliffe, which is lovely.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Maybe you should try leaving stoke sometime

Made me chuckle

Wrong end of the Midlands. We're in Rushcliffe, which is lovely."

Ah, do you play a banjo

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Financial and services sector - again, massively a London-centric thing. Again, irrelevant or of little consequence to the majority of people.

These are all minor considerations compared to the big issues of democracy, immigration and freedom.

Stick to doing donuts in car parks

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Freedom of movement is also a right enjoyed by brits. A right that is being stripped of them.

So we might have to go online, pay a tenner and get a ticket to go on a driving holiday to France.

Again, irrelevant."

Not irrelevant at all. You support removing rights from citizens after it was explicitly stated that rights wouldn’t be lost.

I suspect had the tories offered a Norway style Brexit in 2016, the past 3 years would have been far easier. Remainers on the whole would have accepted that (prominent leavers told everyone that’s why we’d be getting, also).

But no. The ERG headbangers said it wasn’t Brexity enough.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Financial and services sector - again, massively a London-centric thing. Again, irrelevant or of little consequence to the majority of people.

Irrelevant to the majority of people, the actual jobs yes, the loss in revenue to the UK treasury will affect the nation as a whole especially when there's no tangible benefits to point towards that will increase the UK treasury's position to make up for the losses.

That's how it will affect the majority of people, the bigger picture n all that

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Freedom of movement is also a right enjoyed by brits. A right that is being stripped of them.

So we might have to go online, pay a tenner and get a ticket to go on a driving holiday to France.

Again, irrelevant."

I do think once we get our immigration policy set up things won't be that much different to now.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Freedom of movement is also a right enjoyed by brits. A right that is being stripped of them.

So we might have to go online, pay a tenner and get a ticket to go on a driving holiday to France.

Again, irrelevant.

I do think once we get our immigration policy set up things won't be that much different to now. "

For travel and holidays, I agree. For living, working and retirement abroad it will be very different - particularly with healthcare abroad.

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By *hMyGawdCouple
over a year ago

Midlands

"Stick to doing donuts in car parks

I don't have anything RWD at the moment. In any case I prefer the Nurburgring to car parks.

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By *hMyGawdCouple
over a year ago

Midlands

"For travel and holidays, I agree. For living, working and retirement abroad it will be very different - particularly with healthcare abroad."

Looks like your retirement is going to be Southend rather than South of France

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

For travel and holidays, I agree. For living, working and retirement abroad it will be very different - particularly with healthcare abroad."

As less than 3% of the UK population use those rights for the majority of folk FOM is an irrelevance......

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