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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

...on boats to safe areas. Makes you think huh?

If Australia was where France is now and Australians were heading to Dover to escape. Would we have the same tabloid backlash or would we welcome them with open, caring arms?

Lights taper, walks away...

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By *oxychick35Couple
over a year ago

thornaby

Welcome them woth open arms like we wud any ppl fleeing fire ffs

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By *ara JTV/TS
over a year ago

Bristol East

The widespread xenophobia, fuelled and fanned by the red tops here, is nothing new.

The history of Britain is littered with it.

Go back to the early 1900s and study the resentment against the settlement of Jews here who were fleeing persecution in eastern Europe.

MPs leading marches demanding their expulsion.

Same again in the 1930s, when papers like the Express, Mail and Telegraph were openly anti-semitic in their admiration for Adolf Hitler.

Or the race rows in the 1960s - the Bristol Bus strike, for example.

Climate change is causing migration.

Prince Charles was mocked for it at the time, but he made an important point about the role of climate change in the lead-up to civil war in Syria.

Low-lying countries, such as Bangladesh, are particularly vulnerable.

Parts of England, too.

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By *oxychick35Couple
over a year ago

thornaby

"The widespread xenophobia, fuelled and fanned by the red tops here, is nothing new.

The history of Britain is littered with it.

Go back to the early 1900s and study the resentment against the settlement of Jews here who were fleeing persecution in eastern Europe.

MPs leading marches demanding their expulsion.

Same again in the 1930s, when papers like the Express, Mail and Telegraph were openly anti-semitic in their admiration for Adolf Hitler.

Or the race rows in the 1960s - the Bristol Bus strike, for example.

Climate change is causing migration.

Prince Charles was mocked for it at the time, but he made an important point about the role of climate change in the lead-up to civil war in Syria.

Low-lying countries, such as Bangladesh, are particularly vulnerable.

Parts of England, too."
yes very good post but do you think we would turn ppl away fleeing fire ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"The widespread xenophobia, fuelled and fanned by the red tops here, is nothing new.

The history of Britain is littered with it.

Go back to the early 1900s and study the resentment against the settlement of Jews here who were fleeing persecution in eastern Europe.

MPs leading marches demanding their expulsion.

Same again in the 1930s, when papers like the Express, Mail and Telegraph were openly anti-semitic in their admiration for Adolf Hitler.

Or the race rows in the 1960s - the Bristol Bus strike, for example.

Climate change is causing migration.

Prince Charles was mocked for it at the time, but he made an important point about the role of climate change in the lead-up to civil war in Syria.

Low-lying countries, such as Bangladesh, are particularly vulnerable.

Parts of England, too. yes very good post but do you think we would turn ppl away fleeing fire ?"

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Anything for the über boring and oh-SO-typical rant and rage at Great Britain.

Really annoying.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"...on boats to safe areas. Makes you think huh?

If Australia was where France is now and Australians were heading to Dover to escape. Would we have the same tabloid backlash or would we welcome them with open, caring arms?

Lights taper, walks away...

Your comparison is so full of holes the boat would have sunk less than a mile out to sea.....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"...on boats to safe areas. Makes you think huh?

If Australia was where France is now and Australians were heading to Dover to escape. Would we have the same tabloid backlash or would we welcome them with open, caring arms?

Lights taper, walks away...

I think we would house Australian refugees offshore in detention centres like the Australian government does.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"...on boats to safe areas. Makes you think huh?

If Australia was where France is now and Australians were heading to Dover to escape. Would we have the same tabloid backlash or would we welcome them with open, caring arms?

Lights taper, walks away...

Your comparison is so full of holes the boat would have sunk less than a mile out to sea..... "

You’ve mis interpreted my point completely...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"...on boats to safe areas. Makes you think huh?

If Australia was where France is now and Australians were heading to Dover to escape. Would we have the same tabloid backlash or would we welcome them with open, caring arms?

Lights taper, walks away...

Your comparison is so full of holes the boat would have sunk less than a mile out to sea.....

You’ve mis interpreted my point completely..."

No I haven't, I understood completely but comparing fleeing French from fire to migrants / asylum seekers that have travelled through countless safe countries before then boarding boats to Dover is miles apart.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

That's why we have a press backlash

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By *ara JTV/TS
over a year ago

Bristol East

"yes very good post but do you think we would turn ppl away fleeing fire ?"

White Australians? Probably not.

Brown or black Bangladeshi? Probably yes.

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By *ara JTV/TS
over a year ago

Bristol East

Really annoying.

Yes, especially if you were a foreigner on the receiving end of it.

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By *V-AliceTV/TS
over a year ago

Ayr

They'd be welcomed in. Australians are so anti-immigrant our government is about to copy their policy/system for immigration.

Mind you, if they weren't "the best and brightest", they'd be turned away.

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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago

near ipswich

"...on boats to safe areas. Makes you think huh?

If Australia was where France is now and Australians were heading to Dover to escape. Would we have the same tabloid backlash or would we welcome them with open, caring arms?

Lights taper, walks away...

Your comparison is so full of holes the boat would have sunk less than a mile out to sea.....

You’ve mis interpreted my point completely...

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By *host63Man
over a year ago

Bedfont Feltham

They would be white so welcome Aboriginal people would be barred

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"yes very good post but do you think we would turn ppl away fleeing fire ?

White Australians? Probably not.

Brown or black Bangladeshi? Probably yes."

Yeah you’re probably right,

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"That's why we have a press backlash

Your daily mail mates get outraged over foreign fruit and veg crossing the border...

They are in permanent state of outrage at foreign stuff ...

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By *oxychick35Couple
over a year ago

thornaby

Ffs if ppl think the U.K. is so bad why the fuck live here then we give 14-6 billion in overseas aid in the last yr 156 million to India and China how much does the full eu give compared to nasty U.K.

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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago

near ipswich

"Ffs if ppl think the U.K. is so bad why the fuck live here then we give 14-6 billion in overseas aid in the last yr 156 million to India and China how much does the full eu give compared to nasty U.K. "
Dont tell them that we are supposed to suffer from xenophobia.

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By *lem-H-FandangoMan
over a year ago

salisbury

Im surprised we're not having a whip round for them. If they can't afford a standing fire service they surely need help.

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By *evil_u_knowMan
over a year ago

city

The UK would welcome them, because that is the spirit of the agreements in place.

To support global stability you help out your direct neighbours.

The UK is now surrounded by stable countries, many argue because helping your neighbours is vital. The problem with Dover is not that they are french people trying to escape france, but because they are not french people, passing through france.

These people should be helped by their neighbours or go to a country that accepts anyone from anywhere.

Brazil accepts anyone, how many go there? not many, because its like America was when the Irish went to America, you get nothing when you arrive and have to work your whole life out so that your kids can be working class, and maybe their kids can make it to be middle class if they work very hard, but youre not getting free health or money.

This is what brazil offeres, they offered it to all of Syria, only a few hundred went, and its cheaper to fly to Brazil than it is to get to the UK.

These are economic migrants, nothing more, and their neighbours are not helping and it is a threat to global security, and Germany allows it because their population is collapsing and they are basically idiots.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"That's why we have a press backlash

Your daily mail mates get outraged over foreign fruit and veg crossing the border...

They are in permanent state of outrage at foreign stuff ...

My Daily Mail mates? who the feck are they Bob?

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By *ara JTV/TS
over a year ago

Bristol East

How did you manage to bring the EU into a thread about an catastrophe in Australia?

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By *oxychick35Couple
over a year ago

thornaby

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By *oxychick35Couple
over a year ago

thornaby

I think the U.K. haters turned this thread sara

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By *ara JTV/TS
over a year ago

Bristol East

"I think the U.K. haters turned this thread sara "

What's that got to do with the EU?

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By *ara JTV/TS
over a year ago

Bristol East

Folks need to move on.

If the whole of Australia caught fire, GB, the EU and a lot of others would have emergency plans.

The GB plan will be the GB plan.

The EU plan will be the EU plan.

Nowt to do with you or me.

GB is on its own from now on.

No-one else to blame.

Time to stand on your own two feet.

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By *ara JTV/TS
over a year ago

Bristol East

Who do you think would take in more refugees?

The UK or the EU?

White Australia has a lot of European heritage as well as GB.

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By *ara JTV/TS
over a year ago

Bristol East

Anrdea Pejic for example.

She's fabulous.

She'd be first on the refugee rescue ship.

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By *ara JTV/TS
over a year ago

Bristol East

* Andreja Pejic

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

How did you manage to bring the EU into a thread about an catastrophe in Australia?

Somebody else not getting the message out of No 10

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By *oxychick35Couple
over a year ago

thornaby

"I think the U.K. haters turned this thread sara

What's that got to do with the EU?"
I was pointing out how generous the U.K. was woth over seas aid to the U.K. haters that’s all huni nothing wrong woth sticking up for yr own country lol

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By *oxychick35Couple
over a year ago

thornaby

" * Andreja Pejic

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so you would go on looks not colour I’m sure there’s a ist in that somewhere lol

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By *evil_u_knowMan
over a year ago

city

"Who do you think would take in more refugees?

The UK or the EU?

White Australia has a lot of European heritage as well as GB.

The EU would take in the most, Germany would tell them all to go there, they would filter through them looking for educated and qualified, and then tell the rest they will be spread around europe or sent home.

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By *lem-H-FandangoMan
over a year ago

salisbury

Brexit should be good thing for the Australians. We'll be allowed to trade with them again. It was a hard fort battle to allow us to import new Zealand lamb, unfortunately for the aussies we weren't allowed a similar deal with them.

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By *ara JTV/TS
over a year ago

Bristol East

" * Andreja Pejic

so you would go on looks not colour I’m sure there’s a ist in that somewhere lol"

No, I think her story is amazing.

Refugee of the Bosnian war.

Serb mother and Croat father.

Australia took them in as refugees.

Well, what a life she's evolved into.

A super-model.

Someone I admire.

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By *ara JTV/TS
over a year ago

Bristol East

Well, one of the parents and the kids anyway. The war drove the parents apart, I believe, and they fled as "political refugees".

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Brexit should be good thing for the Australians. We'll be allowed to trade with them again. It was a hard fort battle to allow us to import new Zealand lamb, unfortunately for the aussies we weren't allowed a similar deal with them."

I guess you missed the Australian PM's response when asked about the them being able to "strike trade deals" with the UK then lol

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By *an For YouMan
over a year ago

belfast/holywood

"The widespread xenophobia, fuelled and fanned by the red tops here, is nothing new.

The history of Britain is littered with it.

Go back to the early 1900s and study the resentment against the settlement of Jews here who were fleeing persecution in eastern Europe.

MPs leading marches demanding their expulsion.

Same again in the 1930s, when papers like the Express, Mail and Telegraph were openly anti-semitic in their admiration for Adolf Hitler.

Or the race rows in the 1960s - the Bristol Bus strike, for example.

Climate change is causing migration.

Prince Charles was mocked for it at the time, but he made an important point about the role of climate change in the lead-up to civil war in Syria.

Low-lying countries, such as Bangladesh, are particularly vulnerable.

Parts of England, too."

You left out the Tudors not particularly liking catholics

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Australia is part of the commonwealth and very patriotic. Plus we did send a fair few criminals over there back in the day. In all seriousness I feel for every one who have been affected with the bush fires x

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By *abioMan
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

the answer is that the UN ask all countries rich enough to contribute 0.7% of GDP to international aid.....

the uk gives 0.7% of GDP, all EU countries give 0.7% of GDP....

so thats not an arguement you can throw around.....

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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago

near ipswich

the answer is that the UN ask all countries rich enough to contribute 0.7% of GDP to international aid.....

the uk gives 0.7% of GDP, all EU countries give 0.7% of GDP....

so thats not an arguement you can throw around.....

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Well yes it is there are a lot of countries other than india and china who could do with the aid.If these countries can afford to join the space race im sure they can do without uk taxpayers money.

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By *ara JTV/TS
over a year ago

Bristol East

You left out the Protesants not particularly liking catholics"

There, fixed it for you.

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By *oxychick35Couple
over a year ago

thornaby

the answer is that the UN ask all countries rich enough to contribute 0.7% of GDP to international aid.....

the uk gives 0.7% of GDP, all EU countries give 0.7% of GDP....

so thats not an arguement you can throw around.....

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well it is if the U.K. give 14-6 billion and the rest less how much do France give Germany Spain Italy Portugal I won’t bother asking about the others it will be pennies compared to the U.K. ilots of ppl who live here like to kick the U.K. but they wouldn’t live anywhere else funny that lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

the answer is that the UN ask all countries rich enough to contribute 0.7% of GDP to international aid.....

the uk gives 0.7% of GDP, all EU countries give 0.7% of GDP....

so thats not an arguement you can throw around.....

well it is if the U.K. give 14-6 billion and the rest less how much do France give Germany Spain Italy Portugal I won’t bother asking about the others it will be pennies compared to the U.K. ilots of ppl who live here like to kick the U.K. but they wouldn’t live anywhere else funny that lol"

0.7% of GDP is the answer lol

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By *an For YouMan
over a year ago

belfast/holywood

the answer is that the UN ask all countries rich enough to contribute 0.7% of GDP to international aid.....

the uk gives 0.7% of GDP, all EU countries give 0.7% of GDP....

so thats not an arguement you can throw around.....

The EU website has an international aid section.

From 2007 to 2019 the UK was easily the biggest contributor to international aid. The figures are all there but as an example during the years above the 2 countries below have the following figures recorded as their donations;

Uk £68bn

France £18bn

Says is all really. Same for contributions to the EU. Some countries pay fuck all- zero in and get billions out. Some of the leading countries payments in are embarrassing

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By *oxychick35Couple
over a year ago

thornaby

Only 4 country’s in 2018 met the 0-7% donation U.K. one of them Fabio says they all met that ?

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By *an For YouMan
over a year ago

belfast/holywood

the answer is that the UN ask all countries rich enough to contribute 0.7% of GDP to international aid.....

the uk gives 0.7% of GDP, all EU countries give 0.7% of GDP....

so thats not an arguement you can throw around.....

Not sure where you get your figures but the EU website gives the actual figures and they bare zero resemblance to your stats

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By *uck-RogersMan
over a year ago

Tarka trail

I feel upset and sorry for the wildlife being burnt alive.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Really annoying.

Yes, especially if you were a foreigner on the receiving end of it."

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But I'm not.

Get a grip, grow up.

I feel for folks such as you seem to be.

Consumed with some tyranny of negativity with a streak of selfishness, straight down the centre.

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By *ara JTV/TS
over a year ago

Bristol East

I'm sure your opinion of me is important to some people.

I ain't one of them.

Do you just come on here to vent your spleen, or do you actually have an opinion on the OP?

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By *an For YouMan
over a year ago

belfast/holywood

Nobody in Australia is sailing 22 miles to go to another country to escape a fire. 100 yards maybe, then returning an hour or so later.

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By *andS66Couple
over a year ago

Derby

the answer is that the UN ask all countries rich enough to contribute 0.7% of GDP to international aid.....

the uk gives 0.7% of GDP, all EU countries give 0.7% of GDP....

so thats not an arguement you can throw around.....

The last figures I've seen are 0.43% for France.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Personally I think we should scrap it and spend it at home.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"They'd be welcomed in. Australians are so anti-immigrant our government is about to copy their policy/system for immigration.

Mind you, if they weren't "the best and brightest", they'd be turned away."
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There entire immigration system was actually designed to bring large scale immigration into Australia, this is born out by the fact they went from 12 million at the start of the policy to 26 million today.

Best and brightest obviously, who the fuck would design an immigration system that brings in the worst and the stupid?.

Wait I think we know that answer

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By *oxychick35Couple
over a year ago

thornaby

the answer is that the UN ask all countries rich enough to contribute 0.7% of GDP to international aid.....

the uk gives 0.7% of GDP, all EU countries give 0.7% of GDP....

so thats not an arguement you can throw around.....

The last figures I've seen are 0.43% for France.

Germany does give 0.7%, but a quarter of this is 'internal foreign aid', money spent within Germany itself. They have only recently allowed this spend to be included in their foreign aid budget so that they get to the 0.7%."
I think only 4countrys in the eu in 2018 met the 0.7% the U.K. being one of them so it’s Fabio’s argument that can’t be thrown about

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By *ara JTV/TS
over a year ago

Bristol East

"Personally I think we should scrap it and spend it at home. "

The United Nations set a target in 1970 for the wealthiest countries to commit 0.7% to international aid.

That target is now enshrined in UK law.

It always puzzles me when people bang on about the UK being one of the wealthiest countries in the world, then complain about being asked to help the poorest countries in the world.

I don't subscribe to that selfish view.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

There is no way Boris is going to stop or reduce foreign aid.

He’s going to need this cash to grease palms for his post Brexit trade deals .

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Personally I think we should scrap it and spend it at home.

The United Nations set a target in 1970 for the wealthiest countries to commit 0.7% to international aid.

That target is now enshrined in UK law.

It always puzzles me when people bang on about the UK being one of the wealthiest countries in the world, then complain about being asked to help the poorest countries in the world.

I don't subscribe to that selfish view."
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Enshrined in UK law!

Hmmm we'll see

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By *ara JTV/TS
over a year ago

Bristol East

Enshrined in UK law!

Hmmm we'll see

Yes, which means it isn't simply a policy decision of a department that can be changed on a whim - it requires an affirmative act by Parliament to change the law.

Hardly sends a good message to the rest of the world about "global Britain" if they rescind it.

Parochial, insular Britain, yes.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Enshrined in UK law!

Hmmm we'll see

Yes, which means it isn't simply a policy decision of a department that can be changed on a whim - it requires an affirmative act by Parliament to change the law.

Hardly sends a good message to the rest of the world about "global Britain" if they rescind it.

Parochial, insular Britain, yes.

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Anythings possible with a giant majority.

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By *oxychick35Couple
over a year ago

thornaby

"Personally I think we should scrap it and spend it at home.

The United Nations set a target in 1970 for the wealthiest countries to commit 0.7% to international aid.

That target is now enshrined in UK law.

It always puzzles me when people bang on about the UK being one of the wealthiest countries in the world, then complain about being asked to help the poorest countries in the world. Arnt we the 5th richest yet second biggest donater on overseas aid is of thought we would be the 5th stands to reason for me

I don't subscribe to that selfish view."

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By *lem-H-FandangoMan
over a year ago

salisbury

Surely we're not the 5th richest country in the world!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Surely we're not the 5th richest country in the world!!

Depending on how you measure.

Your right we aren’t.

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By *lem-H-FandangoMan
over a year ago

salisbury

"Surely we're not the 5th richest country in the world!!

Depending on how you measure.

Your right we aren’t.

Exactly! Lol

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By *lem-H-FandangoMan
over a year ago

salisbury

Anyway, back on topic..

As we now know a great number of Australian Bush fires are down to arson and failure to clear the brush, is it possible some were lit deliberately for supposed evidence of 'climate change'?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

2019 was Australia’s hottest and driest year on record.

Without an El Niño event to boot..

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By *lem-H-FandangoMan
over a year ago

salisbury

"2019 was Australia’s hottest and driest year on record.

Without an El Niño event to boot..

Conversely, Greenland has just recorded an all time low!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

In addition we are in a solar minimum.

The period of least solar activity in the 11 year solar cycle of the Sun.

So we cant blame the sun.

Well you can if you like ...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Personally I think we should scrap it and spend it at home.

The United Nations set a target in 1970 for the wealthiest countries to commit 0.7% to international aid.

That target is now enshrined in UK law.

It always puzzles me when people bang on about the UK being one of the wealthiest countries in the world, then complain about being asked to help the poorest countries in the world.

I don't subscribe to that selfish view."

You really see it as selfish trying to help our own poorest of society and homeless first instead of people the other side of the planet.

Each to their own I guess

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Anyway I didn't "bang on" about the UK being one of the wealthiest countries on the planet either, you sure you're not still banging that sherry back?

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By *ara JTV/TS
over a year ago

Bristol East

I used to have a fabulous map of the world that I bought in Australia.

An upside down map.

North was south and south was north.

Australia was at the top.

Europe at the bottom.

The legend said "who the fuck decided Australia is at the bottom?"

Or something like that.

Lol

Loved it.

Seeing the world in a very different way.

I lost it in a house move sometime.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Conservatives will always try to find the moral justification for selfishness .

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

And to say how much the UK still spends more than it brings in and has to borrow so bloody much I personally don't class that as being very wealthy either, I'm sure it's my selfishness shining through or maybe common sense, who knows

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"...on boats to safe areas. Makes you think huh?

If Australia was where France is now and Australians were heading to Dover to escape. Would we have the same tabloid backlash or would we welcome them with open, caring arms?

Lights taper, walks away...

Your comparison is so full of holes the boat would have sunk less than a mile out to sea.....

You’ve mis interpreted my point completely...

No, sorry, it isn’t.

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By *ara JTV/TS
over a year ago

Bristol East

"And to say how much the UK still spends more than it brings in and has to borrow so bloody much I personally don't class that as being very wealthy either, I'm sure it's my selfishness shining through or maybe common sense, who knows "

Surest way to join the list of poorest countries.

Who knows, maybe Nigeria will send us aid in future.

Or Malawi.

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By *oxychick35Couple
over a year ago

thornaby

"Surely we're not the 5th richest country in the world!!

Depending on how you measure.

Your right we aren’t.

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so if we are further down than 5th why the fuck do we spend more than more wealthy country’s and still have Brit’s slagging there own country off lol

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By *ara JTV/TS
over a year ago

Bristol East

If California was a country, it would be fifth on the list.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Surely we're not the 5th richest country in the world!!

Not even top 25 unfortunately

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By *oxychick35Couple
over a year ago

thornaby

"Surely we're not the 5th richest country in the world!!

Not even top 25 unfortunately

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yet still send 14.6 billion last yr more that Germany France out tgether

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"If California was a country, it would be fifth on the list.

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It used to be fifth, it's sixth now and falling fast.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

No it's perfect common sense.

Don't listen to them,Trots are proletariat internationalists

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By *ara JTV/TS
over a year ago

Bristol East

"If California was a country, it would be fifth on the list.

It used to be fifth, it's sixth now and falling fast."

Gosh.

How dreadful.

Who is overtaking it?

UK by any chance?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"...on boats to safe areas. Makes you think huh?

If Australia was where France is now and Australians were heading to Dover to escape. Would we have the same tabloid backlash or would we welcome them with open, caring arms?

Lights taper, walks away...

Your comparison is so full of holes the boat would have sunk less than a mile out to sea.....

You’ve mis interpreted my point completely...

No, sorry, it isn’t. "

Well you'll find facts and common sense disagree with you on that but you're free to think whatever you wish though not many may join you.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"If California was a country, it would be fifth on the list.

It used to be fifth, it's sixth now and falling fast.

Gosh.

How dreadful.

Who is overtaking it?

UK by any chance?

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No they were firth when ran by republicans in the 80s ever since then they've been losing wealth while ran by democrats.

California is a disaster waiting to happen, they have massive future debts in pensions and bonds while relying on 1.5% of the population to bring in 40% of taxes, it truly is the state of the haves and the have nots.

The middle class have packed up and fucked off to Texas long ago.

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By *ara JTV/TS
over a year ago

Bristol East

Still more powerful economically than the UK.

A single state of the USA.

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By *lem-H-FandangoMan
over a year ago

salisbury

"Still more powerful economically than the UK.

A single state of the USA.

If we had a slave labour force as big as there's we could compete. Id rather not.

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over a year ago

"Still more powerful economically than the UK.

A single state of the USA.

If we had a slave labour force as big as there's we could compete. Id rather not. "

Good old colonial nostalgia...

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By *lem-H-FandangoMan
over a year ago

salisbury

"Still more powerful economically than the UK.

A single state of the USA.

Maybe if we didn't have an nhs we'd be more powerful, or maybe if we didn't have to have a defence budget, or send money abroad, or have a welfare system that people walk across the globe risking their lives on the way just to get a piece of it.

Maybe then, but id rather not.

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By *an For YouMan
over a year ago

belfast/holywood

"Still more powerful economically than the UK.

A single state of the USA.

So what ?

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By *ara JTV/TS
over a year ago

Bristol East

No, GDP is a like for like comparison.

The GDP of California alone is greater than the GDP of the UK.

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By *lem-H-FandangoMan
over a year ago

salisbury

"Still more powerful economically than the UK.

A single state of the USA.

If we had a slave labour force as big as there's we could compete. Id rather not.

Good old colonial nostalgia...

They have 115000 in their slave labour force.

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By *lem-H-FandangoMan
over a year ago

salisbury

"No, GDP is a like for like comparison.

The GDP of California alone is greater than the GDP of the UK."

Goes to show how being in the EU didn't help us at all...

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over a year ago

"Still more powerful economically than the UK.

A single state of the USA.

If we had a slave labour force as big as there's we could compete. Id rather not.

Good old colonial nostalgia...

They have 115000 in their slave labour force. "

Who is they??

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By *ara JTV/TS
over a year ago

Bristol East

Goes to show how being in the EU didn't help us at all...

The United States is a union of 50 or so states.

The EU is a union of 28 states (+4).

The two can just about match up to each other.

The UK can just about match up to California.

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By *lem-H-FandangoMan
over a year ago

salisbury

"Still more powerful economically than the UK.

A single state of the USA.

If we had a slave labour force as big as there's we could compete. Id rather not.

Good old colonial nostalgia...

They have 115000 in their slave labour force.

Who is they??"

The state of California.

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By *lem-H-FandangoMan
over a year ago

salisbury

Goes to show how being in the EU didn't help us at all...

The United States is a union of 50 or so states.

The EU is a union of 28 states (+4).

The two can just about match up to each other.

The UK can just about match up to California.

So, you're saying we'd do better in a union with the USA, interesting idea.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Still more powerful economically than the UK.

A single state of the USA.

If we had a slave labour force as big as there's we could compete. Id rather not.

Good old colonial nostalgia...

They have 115000 in their slave labour force.

Who is they??

The state of California. "

Ok...

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By *an For YouMan
over a year ago

belfast/holywood

Goes to show how being in the EU didn't help us at all...

The United States is a union of 50 or so states.

The EU is a union of 28 states (+4).

The two can just about match up to each other.

The UK can just about match up to California.

So what? I’m 6ft 2. My neighbour is 5’10. I’m taller than he is. So what ?

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By *oodmessMan
over a year ago

yumsville

"...on boats to safe areas. Makes you think huh?

If Australia was where France is now and Australians were heading to Dover to escape. Would we have the same tabloid backlash or would we welcome them with open, caring arms?

Lights taper, walks away...

There's a comparison here to the Aussies putting refugees in adapted tankers just off the coast not too long ago, as neither they or their government wanted them docking claiming asylum.

Different when it's white folks with a legitimate reason to flee?

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By *oodmessMan
over a year ago

yumsville

Just read the thread and a 3 day old comment.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"...on boats to safe areas. Makes you think huh?

If Australia was where France is now and Australians were heading to Dover to escape. Would we have the same tabloid backlash or would we welcome them with open, caring arms?

Lights taper, walks away...

There's a comparison here to the Aussies putting refugees in adapted tankers just off the coast not too long ago, as neither they or their government wanted them docking claiming asylum.

Different when it's white folks with a legitimate reason to flee? "

Pretty much my point.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I didn't know Australians were sailing off and claiming asylum somewhere..... must have missed the news that day

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Don’t think anyone said they were.

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By *anejohnkent6263Couple
over a year ago

canterbury

Oh white folks ..let's turn it into skin colour and racism again ...minority again

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By *oxychick35Couple
over a year ago

thornaby

It always turns into a racism thread after a while

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"It always turns into a racism thread after a while "

Too many racists on here I guess

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Still more powerful economically than the UK.

A single state of the USA.

"
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Well it's three times as big and has 40 million people in it, vast mineral wealth, vast tech industry wealth, has the world's leading universities, massive tourist industry, gigantic agriculture industry and has always benefited from federal subsidies.

Oh and of course didn't do anything like as much social policies as European countries.

But again it truly is the state of the haves and the have nots, anybody that's visited San Francisco recently will tell you, it's not the most pleasant place to live unless your very very wealthy.

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