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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

So in the papers this morning a prominent anti Brexit lawyer is being lambasted for putting a fox trapped in chicken netting out of its misery with a baseball bat. On the same front page is a picture of a six year old dressed in hunting pink calling the hounds with a bugle. How does that sit with you all?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"So in the papers this morning a prominent anti Brexit lawyer is being lambasted for putting a fox trapped in chicken netting out of its misery with a baseball bat. On the same front page is a picture of a six year old dressed in hunting pink calling the hounds with a bugle. How does that sit with you all?"

The story about the lawyer was weird. It's a matter for the RSPCA, who have been involved. That he was against brexit seems unrelated.

The campaign's to legalise fox hunting again are underway. So it's no surprise that this stuff is in the news again.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

The story about the lawyer was weird. It's a matter for the RSPCA, who have been involved. That he was against brexit seems unrelated.

The campaign's to legalise fox hunting again are underway. So it's no surprise that this stuff is in the news again."

I guess it was the hypocrisy of the “cute” fox hunting child being on the same front page as the “evil” anti brexit QC - I was wondering where some of the posters on here would place themselves with regards to this

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

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By *ara JTV/TS
over a year ago

Bristol East

What does his view of Brexit have to do with the welfare of chickens and foxes?

Did the article mention if he had a big cock or anything?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I care not for his Brexit views as they are his views and I will respect them as just that his own views but if he doesn’t support the worlds greatest football team (SOUTHEND UNITED FOOTBALL CLUB) then he can fuck right off, just my view of course.

Tony

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By *V-AliceTV/TS
over a year ago

Ayr

Well, a quick death by baseball bat might be preferable to being torn apart by hounds; but did he really have to do it? I'm not so sure.

As for the other part; any six year old can be raised to be an evil little shite, given the appropriate input - or lack of it - from their parents.

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By *mmabluTV/TS
over a year ago

upton wirral

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The fox was after his chickens and got caught up and he must have belted it with said bat.

If it was a quick any on the head killing it outright then what’s the problem ?

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

Now the problem here is that the QC in question was referred to as being anti-brexit and in my opinion he made the front pages because of that association rather than the killing of an ensnared animal. So the link isn’t about what he did but his political affiliations that make him a target and I am sure if he had been riding to hunt and watched a fox being ripped apart by hounds it would hardly have raised a murmur. So stop being so complacent and lazy and try to imagine why its not a weird thing to think?

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

Central

I'm against animal cruelty and both options appear to be this.

He seemed to have taken a dreadful decision, instead of letting the animal go free or humane care and improving his chicken security.

Fox hunting should disappear into history, as something that has been learned from.

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By *abioMan
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

should he have done what he did.... no!

would it be a story if it wasn't who he was.... no!

this story is being used to settle scores from other area's... and i think that is dangerous

but since this pandora's box has now been well and truely opened.... some people are now going to have to live the most virtuous life ever!

people in glass houses and all that.....

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By *ara JTV/TS
over a year ago

Bristol East

I thought Boris said it was time to move on from Brexit and unite the nation? Sounds like some people are not getting the message from No. 10

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By *ifty grades of shadyCouple
over a year ago

Carisbrooke, Isle of Wight

"I care not for his Brexit views as they are his views and I will respect them as just that his own views but if he doesn’t support the worlds greatest football team (SOUTHEND UNITED FOOTBALL CLUB) then he can fuck right off, just my view of course.

Tony"
Southend are great, can you give the wombles 3 more points please, glad the mongs only managed to get just the 1 though.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It's one of the most ridiculous ill thought out online "admissions" I've ever heard of.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Certain questions come to mind

1) how was he to get near a wild animal with very sharp teeth and free it? Ok, call the RSPCA.

2) what is in the mind of an ordinary person whose way to deal with this is to kill? Surely not the first thought you’d have without previous.

3) whoever buys these papers?

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Certain questions come to mind

1) how was he to get near a wild animal with very sharp teeth and free it? Ok, call the RSPCA.

2) what is in the mind of an ordinary person whose way to deal with this is to kill? Surely not the first thought you’d have without previous.

3) whoever buys these papers?

1) he keeps chickens and the fox was caught in the chicken netting and frantic

2) he wanted to end its suffering/put it down for good or bad intentions

3) too many people buy these stupid rags

The big question is why he posted a tweet about it?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

You miss my points

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"You miss my points"

No I think you missed my point but hey, no worries, at least you were civil

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Hmm there was more to it than the obvious however, it’s not worth going over.

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Hmm there was more to it than the obvious however, it’s not worth going over."

It wasn’t meant to be deep....just a reflection on the twisted morals of newspapers.

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By *uietbloke67Man
over a year ago

outside your bedroom window ;-)

The right wing press are on a witch hunt that suits them.

C of E comes out and talks about the poor and the welfare system ...they SCREAM...GOD PEOPLE SHOULD STAY OUT OF POLITICS.

The Synagogue mentions anti semitism in the Labour party they SCREAM....THIS IS SHOCKING THE SOCIALISTS NEED TO ACT.

Pawns of the billinnares who read their shite xx

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

news papers don't have morals LOL

They just want a head line so you buy the paper lets be honest they all a pile of shite and gossip

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By *risky_MareWoman
over a year ago

...Up on the Downs

"Certain questions come to mind

1) how was he to get near a wild animal with very sharp teeth and free it? Ok, call the RSPCA.

2) what is in the mind of an ordinary person whose way to deal with this is to kill? Surely not the first thought you’d have without previous.

3) whoever buys these papers?

1) he keeps chickens and the fox was caught in the chicken netting and frantic

2) he wanted to end its suffering/put it down for good or bad intentions

3) too many people buy these stupid rags

The big question is why he posted a tweet about it?"

I don't believe that for a second - he had posted before about running out into the garden with a baseball bat after the fox, there was NO netting for him to get caught up in (I suspect a snare myself) and there's no way battering a fox to death is quick or painless, quite apart from being illegal. It is barbaric, I hope he is prosecuted and made an example of.

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By *UGGYBEAR2015Man
over a year ago

BRIDPORT

So, you kill a fox with a baseball bat on your own property, that nobody else is aware of, until-:

You call the RSPCA and tell them what you have done,

Then post on social media telling the world what you have done, hmmm.

Your actions are now on the front page of national newspaper.

The cynical part of me is asking, does he have a book or some other such enterprise about to be launched.

As for the picture of the child, if you want people to look at something, whether it’s to promote or protest just use a photo of a cute kid, works every time.

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By *an For YouMan
over a year ago

belfast/holywood

Don’t F**k with Foxes

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Apparently being torn to pieces by hounds is humane and also a sport.

Swinging a baseball bat at a fox is cruel and mean

Who knew....

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Certain questions come to mind

1) how was he to get near a wild animal with very sharp teeth and free it? Ok, call the RSPCA.

2) what is in the mind of an ordinary person whose way to deal with this is to kill? Surely not the first thought you’d have without previous.

3) whoever buys these papers?

1) he keeps chickens and the fox was caught in the chicken netting and frantic

2) he wanted to end its suffering/put it down for good or bad intentions

3) too many people buy these stupid rags

The big question is why he posted a tweet about it?

Well that wasn’t the predictable response from you was it? Ever kept chickens yourself? In an urban environment too? What nonsense lol lol lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Maybe the next question should be:

Exactly how does a fox get caught in chicken netting?

Oh, and

Does he have a baseball ball to go with that baseball bat, and if not......

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By *obka3Couple
over a year ago

bournemouth

"Maybe the next question should be:

Exactly how does a fox get caught in chicken netting?

Oh, and

Does he have a baseball ball to go with that baseball bat, and if not......"

If its electrified netting very easily

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By *risky_MareWoman
over a year ago

...Up on the Downs

"Maybe the next question should be:

Exactly how does a fox get caught in chicken netting?

Facts - He has posted pics of his chicken coop, it is made of a rigid steel mesh of a kind that a fox cannot get entangled in. He just battered an animal to death for no good reason, and he had expressed the intention to do so beforehand.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Maybe the next question should be:

Exactly how does a fox get caught in chicken netting?

Oh, and

Does he have a baseball ball to go with that baseball bat, and if not......

If its electrified netting very easily "

Most people with common sense would simply have turned off the electrical supply work disconnected the battery......

While I would not wish to meddle with a scared fox, the chances of it being caught in well-fixed chicken mesh is zero. If it had not been put deeply enough, it would have been a simple matter to release it. However, if you are a fox-hater, perfect opportunity.

My initial questions asked about who would do this. It’s not normally the first option of choice to murder anything: it takes either previous or a certain personality. And animal cruelty comes before or with, human abuse. Maybe that should be investigated...

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By *anejohnkent6263Couple
over a year ago

canterbury

A fox killed 22 of my chickens in one go and took none to eat ....horrid creatures ...well done fella ....townies don't understand the menace of foxes

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Don’t presume I’m a ‘townie’.

And for the record, mink also kill and leave chickens. It’s a stupid, ignorant fallacy that foxes go on killing sprees for the fun of it btw.

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By *anejohnkent6263Couple
over a year ago

canterbury

Oh then why kill 22 in one go ..I left them in paddock and waited for next evening and shot it ...job done

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Weasels, pinemartins, mink, rats and birds of prey will all kill chickens too. The fox will kill all the chickens with the intention of either returning or burying them.

If you keep chickens, either in town or rurally, a fox is only sourcing food. It may piss you off that it’s your chickens that provide your food but for a fox, it’s natural. It’s you who are redefining nature. Get better fencing. It’s what I did when it happened to mine. I didn’t feel the need to kill something instead. I accepted it, regretted it happening and made sure it would not happen again. The culprit moved on........

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By *obka3Couple
over a year ago

bournemouth

"Maybe the next question should be:

Exactly how does a fox get caught in chicken netting?

Oh, and

Does he have a baseball ball to go with that baseball bat, and if not......

If its electrified netting very easily

Most people with common sense would simply have turned off the electrical supply work disconnected the battery......

As you say it is hard for a fox to get caught in chicken mesh but far from impossible and if it wasnt trapped in something he wouldn't have been able to hit it, as for releasing a fox from any sort of fencing, good luck with that you would be severely bitten

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By *dam and slutCouple
over a year ago

Manchester

Not so long ago, a whale I believe got lost, ended up in the Thames where upon a few hundred people, crying save the whale, save the whale, carrying candles, praying etc. A boat with a winch at a cost of £75000 hoisted the whale onto the boat in an attempt to save it....it died.

in the 1800's a whale did the same thing, where upon the people in that part of London, raced to the scene with knives etc, proceeded to catch it, cut it up for its skin to make coats and its blubber for their oil lamps.

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By *anejohnkent6263Couple
over a year ago

canterbury

Just goes to show tooooo many do gooders on this earth

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Not so long ago, a whale I believe got lost, ended up in the Thames where upon a few hundred people, crying save the whale, save the whale, carrying candles, praying etc. A boat with a winch at a cost of £75000 hoisted the whale onto the boat in an attempt to save it....it died.

Must have been a while ago. Whales suffocate when lifted out of water. That much has been known for quite a while.

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By *mmabluTV/TS
over a year ago

upton wirral

"I thought Boris said it was time to move on from Brexit and unite the nation? Sounds like some people are not getting the message from No. 10"
Most are,it is just you lot and Tony Blair,he still wants a referendum very sad

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By (user no longer on site) OP
over a year ago

"Maybe the next question should be:

Exactly how does a fox get caught in chicken netting?

Oh, and

Does he have a baseball ball to go with that baseball bat, and if not......

If its electrified netting very easily

Most people with common sense would simply have turned off the electrical supply work disconnected the battery......

That’s exactly how I see it too and the only reason I can think that he tweeted what he had done is to be open and honest and not be accused of concealing what he had done.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If I’d battered to death next door’s dog who was a social nuisance and became trapped in my fence, the last thing I’d do was tweet about it.

I think there was a bit of bravado about it, of looking for affirmation, praise or testosterone-boosting intention in the tweet. As I said, it’s not the first option of most to batter a wild animal to death then seek social-media affirmation, nor should it be accepted as ‘normal’. The link between animal abuse and human abuse is proven, and very strong. We should think of that.

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By *dam and slutCouple
over a year ago

Manchester

Must have been a while ago. Whales suffocate when lifted out of water. That much has been known for quite a while.

The River Thames whale was a juvenile female northern bottlenose whale which was discovered swimming in the River Thames in central London on Friday 20 January 2006.

According to the BBC, she was five metres long and weighed about seven tonnes. The whale appeared to have been lost, as her normal habitat would have been around the coasts of the far north of Scotland and Northern Ireland, and in the seas around the Arctic Ocean.

It was the first time the species had been seen in the Thames since records began in 1913. She died from convulsions as she was being rescued shortly after 19:00 GMT on 21 January 2006.

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By *andlingswingersCouple
over a year ago

Woodbridge

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" I am sure if he had been riding to hunt and watched a fox being ripped apart by hounds ..."it would hardly have raised a murmur. So stop being so complacent and lazy

Um....It's riding WITH the (preferably named) hunt or riding to hounds (pron. "Hinds"....)

And more seriously,as hounds killing foxes is illegal then yes, it ought to have raised a murmur, especially if it was a QC doing it. He was idiotic Tweeting about it.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Maybe the next question should be:

Exactly how does a fox get caught in chicken netting?

Lefties only talk a good utopia, in reality there quite willing to take dissenting voices out and machine gun them as history as proved time and time again, why people think there such caring empathic people is beyond me.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Poor Bazil

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Poor Bazil

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That's what happens when you've watched to much movies and TV.

Man had chickens, fox wanted chickens to eat, man killed fox because he wants the chickens.

The end.

It's David Attenborough every fucking show get over it

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Good jobs humans don't get clubbed to death queuing outside Nandos

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Not a fan of Nandos personally

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Me neither, can't figure out the fuss over it tbh

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By *ara JTV/TS
over a year ago

Bristol East

"I thought Boris said it was time to move on from Brexit and unite the nation? Sounds like some people are not getting the message from No. 10Most are,it is just you lot and Tony Blair,he still wants a referendum very sad"

Get over it.

You own it now.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I thought Boris said it was time to move on from Brexit and unite the nation? Sounds like some people are not getting the message from No. 10

Most are,it is just you lot and Tony Blair,he still wants a referendum very sad"

I think you'll find it's the media and obviously yourself that isn't getting the message from Boris, very sad

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By *an For YouMan
over a year ago

belfast/holywood

I doubt anyone could chase after a fox and club it to death with anything unless the fox was trapped in something

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By *ara JTV/TS
over a year ago

Bristol East

Can you befriend a fox?

I live in a 2-up, 2-down in the Bristol suburbs.

Next to the remains of an old orchard with lovely big trees.

The neighbourhood squirrel sometimes pops in and so does the neighbourhood fox.

If I leave some food out for them, might they become my friends?

Nuts for the squirrel.

What about the fox?

My fella said dog-food.

What does a fox eat?

(And don't say chickens

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By *an For YouMan
over a year ago

belfast/holywood

Squirrels yes ... foxes no

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Can you befriend a fox?)"

Absolutely.

There’s a lovely clip on u tube of a fox getting its tummy tickled and wagging its tail. My friend had two as a child who were completely tame.

However, as would be the case with dogs to get them as tame,, they were hand- reared from 2-3 weeks old. They are wild animals and deserve to live a wild life. Older ones will act exactly as an unhandled dog would but with much less urge to attack.

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