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By *sianManc OP   Man
over a year ago

Manchester

Why do you think?

What has this taught you about the election and politics in the UK if anything?

Does this mean the rich won?

Debate

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Why do you think?

What has this taught you about the election and politics in the UK if anything?

Does this mean the rich won?

Debate"

English Nationalism won, Brexit needed to be sorted and Corbyn could not be trusted.

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By *ust RachelTV/TS
over a year ago

Horsham

This was always about brexit, nothing else mattered.

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By *mmabluTV/TS
over a year ago

upton wirral

It was about how people hate the far left and love of freedom and independence,that includes defence of the nation

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By *ungblackbullMan
over a year ago

scotland


"It was about how people hate the far left and love of freedom and independence,that includes defence of the nation"

You talk the most gibberish. Corbyn iss described as a Marxist. Do you actually know what that means? I'll give you an example. Marx's central concept of socialism was to abolish money. However, Corbyn wanted to establish a national investment bank. Can you see a rather large hole there in that argument?

Of course, continue to read the garbage thrown down your throat whilst this government, supported by the far right, screws you.

"Dominic Cummings, your country salutes you" - Tommy Robinson (13/12/2019).

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By *asyukMan
over a year ago

West London

The win was with a 1.2% increase in vote share.

How much do you learn from that?

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By *heDesiCandiTV/TS
over a year ago

Leicester


"The win was with a 1.2% increase in vote share.

How much do you learn from that?"

Are you sure ? I thought it was a decrease of 1.2%

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By *ike676767Man
over a year ago

Near Taunton

That Labour lost the support of voters for having economic policy's deemed to be too expensive, excessive, uncosted and uncoordinated - money into free broadband for all yet nothing for food banks.

A deeply unsavoury leader who hates, Jews, The West And Britain and not trusted to keep us safe.

A party that ignored the Brexit result and whose leader wouldn't take a stance on it.

8% drop in support saw 1% to Tories, 3% to.Brexit and 4% to Lib Dems., that's why.

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By *lem-H-FandangoMan
over a year ago

salisbury

Normal people don't like the extremes of either the right or left, the left of which is attacking the police at the cenotaph this evening. This kind of thing will galvanise support for the Tories.

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By *ercuryMan
over a year ago

Grantham


"The win was with a 1.2% increase in vote share.

How much do you learn from that?

Are you sure ? I thought it was a decrease of 1.2% "

Voter turnout was down about 1%. That's different to party vote share.

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By *Man1263Man
over a year ago

Stockport

I love these threads.

Blame everyone/everything but the cause.

It's what keeps me smiling during the day

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By *asyukMan
over a year ago

West London


"I love these threads.

Blame everyone/everything but the cause.

It's what keeps me smiling during the day "

What is "the" cause?

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By *lex46TV/TS
over a year ago

Near Wells

I don't think the rich won or the poor lost.

1. More People prefer Boris than Jeremy.

2. A lot of people didn't trust or like Labour's policies

3. Labour's stance on Brexit was weak and lacking of any leadership. The fact that Jeremy Corbyn made his neutral point on Question Time after being pushed by a member of the audience was shocking.

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By *lem-H-FandangoMan
over a year ago

salisbury

Trouble is momentum seem to be the new nazi's. The political arm is anti-semitic, and the military arm has been mobilised, as we saw last night at the cenotaph. (The antifa). Dangerous times.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Trouble is momentum seem to be the new nazi's. The political arm is anti-semitic, and the military arm has been mobilised, as we saw last night at the cenotaph. (The antifa). Dangerous times. "

Not really. Momentum are trying to hang in there as they have managed to increase party membership so feel some justification but the bubble they operate in is just not connected with reality. As for the antifa - they are angry and want to express how they feel by rioting which unfortunately they have done in a stupid way again but they will be back with XR soon enough so we wont be needing martial law anytime soon!

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By *uck-RogersMan
over a year ago

Tarka trail


"It was about how people hate the far left and love of freedom and independence,that includes defence of the nation"

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By *lem-H-FandangoMan
over a year ago

salisbury


"Trouble is momentum seem to be the new nazi's. The political arm is anti-semitic, and the military arm has been mobilised, as we saw last night at the cenotaph. (The antifa). Dangerous times.

Not really. Momentum are trying to hang in there as they have managed to increase party membership so feel some justification but the bubble they operate in is just not connected with reality. As for the antifa - they are angry and want to express how they feel by rioting which unfortunately they have done in a stupid way again but they will be back with XR soon enough so we wont be needing martial law anytime soon!"

It seems that's exactly what they want. Just anarchists jumping on bandwagons.

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By *evil_u_knowMan
over a year ago

city

It was about everyone wanting everything for free, but not to give anything for free, and they all want the chance to be rich one day.

Everyone is closer to being homeless than being rich, but they all dream of being rich, winning the lotto etc, and people like JC saying if one day you make it, he will come in and take it all off you, its just a step too far, just get rich people to pay their fair share and back off.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"It was about everyone wanting everything for free, but not to give anything for free, and they all want the chance to be rich one day.

Everyone is closer to being homeless than being rich, but they all dream of being rich, winning the lotto etc, and people like JC saying if one day you make it, he will come in and take it all off you, its just a step too far, just get rich people to pay their fair share and back off."

I cant fault you on any of that. 9 years of austerity makes hardworking people cautious and they aren’t going to vote for losing what little they have left no matter how its dressed up. Fairness should be something we all aspire to but in the current circumstances its a tall order and the wealthy now have an open field to do as they wish. Dickens would have plenty to say about it.

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By *an For YouMan
over a year ago

belfast/holywood


"It was about how people hate the far left and love of freedom and independence,that includes defence of the nation"

Common sense at last

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By *an For YouMan
over a year ago

belfast/holywood


"I don't think the rich won or the poor lost.

1. More People prefer Boris than Jeremy.

2. A lot of people didn't trust or like Labour's policies

3. Labour's stance on Brexit was weak and lacking of any leadership. The fact that Jeremy Corbyn made his neutral point on Question Time after being pushed by a member of the audience was shocking.

"

Particularly shocking as that was the first time many in labour had heard it !!!!

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By *an For YouMan
over a year ago

belfast/holywood


"That Labour lost the support of voters for having economic policy's deemed to be too expensive, excessive, uncosted and uncoordinated - money into free broadband for all yet nothing for food banks.

A deeply unsavoury leader who hates, Jews, The West And Britain and not trusted to keep us safe.

A party that ignored the Brexit result and whose leader wouldn't take a stance on it.

8% drop in support saw 1% to Tories, 3% to.Brexit and 4% to Lib Dems., that's why."

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By *oxychick35Couple
over a year ago

thornaby

It was a clear msg on leave and the fact ppl don’t trust corbyn the free broadband was final nail in his coffin

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"It was a clear msg on leave and the fact ppl don’t trust corbyn the free broadband was final nail in his coffin "

I have gotta say - the free broadband was just stupid - if he had promised countrywide broadband with a reduced rate for the elderly or poor than maybe that would have made sense - especially when so much stuff is done online these days but, making it free ignored all those people who had bought shares on BT, Virgin, etc which frankly was seen by them as robbery.

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

Central

Many people had a fairly poor grasp of what was being proposed from my experience, although now abroad.

Lies also seemed to be accepted as reasonable.

The result is a poor future for the majority

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By *asyukMan
over a year ago

West London


"It was about how people hate the far left and love of freedom and independence,that includes defence of the nation"

Compared to the last election, people barely changed their opinion of the Conservative party (+1.2%)

It seems that people didn't like Labour much (-7.9%)

We have no idea what part of the Labour offering was not acceptable; policies, Brexit position or Corbyn personally.

What you just wrote is made up isn't it? Do you have any information at all to back it up?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"It was a clear msg on leave and the fact ppl don’t trust corbyn the free broadband was final nail in his coffin

I have gotta say - the free broadband was just stupid - if he had promised countrywide broadband with a reduced rate for the elderly or poor than maybe that would have made sense - especially when so much stuff is done online these days but, making it free ignored all those people who had bought shares on BT, Virgin, etc which frankly was seen by them as robbery. "

That's the stupid thing, they failed to communicate that, by nationalising the network infrastructure, companies could still rent it and sell their own deals, what we the British public would be saving on is getting rid of the line rental costs (AVG. £13 per month) from the bill, but hey ho, we're stuck on copper for another 10 years.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Why do you think?

What has this taught you about the election and politics in the UK if anything?

Does this mean the rich won?

Debate"

Here we go again trying to play the divisive rich/poor them and us tired old card .

They won because the majority want to leave and only the conservatives said they'd do it.

End of.

I don't think people in labour heartlands who voted for the Tories are rich. They just want their referendum vote to leave honoured.

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By *an For YouMan
over a year ago

belfast/holywood

And those labour heartlands, the red wall have hundreds of thousands of people on low/minimum wages or those seeking work in benefits. But they still voted Tory. And you just have to listen to what these people said to media organisations as to why they voted Tory. We can all have an opinion/ theory on why there was such dramatic swings . But all you have to do is listen to what the people said. It’s called democracy. The people spoke with their exes on a ballot paper .

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By *lem-H-FandangoMan
over a year ago

salisbury

When people tell me to "Debate" i always, think "fuck off". Am i alone?

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By *asyukMan
over a year ago

West London


"And those labour heartlands, the red wall have hundreds of thousands of people on low/minimum wages or those seeking work in benefits. But they still voted Tory. And you just have to listen to what these people said to media organisations as to why they voted Tory. We can all have an opinion/ theory on why there was such dramatic swings . But all you have to do is listen to what the people said. It’s called democracy. The people spoke with their exes on a ballot paper . "

The "dramatic" swing to the Conservative party in leave areas was 6.1%

Again, the overall increase in vote share to the Conservatives was 1.2%

44% of the vote won 55% of the seats

It is all ligitimate.

However, if you are listening to the people, then actually listen.

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