FabSwingers.com forum: what went wrong? (lib dem edition)

By *abio OP Man
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

not a good night... what happened? whats the solution?

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By *rSinCityMan
over a year ago

London

"not a good night... what happened? whats the solution?"

I remember the day Vince Cable announced Swinson will be the leader of Lib Dems, I facepalmed and from that moment I knew lib dems are fucked

by the way, I'm supporting Lib dems, but not the Swindler

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"not a good night... what happened? whats the solution?

I remember the day Vince Cable announced Swinson will be the leader of Lib Dems, I facepalmed and from that moment I knew lib dems are fucked

by the way, I'm supporting Lib dems, but not the Swindler

She was a very poor leader

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By *anejohnkent6263Couple
over a year ago

canterbury

Backed wrong horse in jo ...someone ...wrong manifesto...still in the job for 5 months and now gets leader of party ....pension for rest of her life ...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It would take a swing of monumental proportions for the Lib Dems to ever get into power under the electrol system we have.

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By *abio OP Man
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

i think the way forward now is that whoever the leader is CANNOT be someone who was involved with the 2010 coalition as that will keep being beaten over them!

I thought she would be a fantastic leader...i have to hold my hands up and say not so!

the Lib dems can be a centrist pro european party and they would get a lot of support, they can also be radical in what they advocate for

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By *eastAndTheHarlotCouple
over a year ago

Hartlepool

I voted Lib Dem once.. and they formed a coalition with the Tories and became puppets.

Lost any faith I had in them.

Wasn't convinced by Swinson or their lack of.. well.. anything of real substance.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

She thought dismissing brexit would secure ALL the remain vote, she thought wrong because dismissing democracy turned alot of people who voted remain off (moi).

She should have stuck to centre left policies no woke shit and policied a second referendum.

Even then she still had a face you wanted to slap

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"She thought dismissing brexit would secure ALL the remain vote, she thought wrong because dismissing democracy turned alot of people who voted remain off (moi).

She should have stuck to centre left policies no woke shit and policied a second referendum.

Even then she still had a face you wanted to slap

Yes I think she thought there would be enough remainers that only had Brexit mania on their mind and would only vote along the lines of Brexit.

Leavers on the other hand by the large will have probably voted along Brexit lines which is understandable I guess.

Swinson guessed wrong.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Swinson was a lousy leader. She was hopelessly compromised by the things she'd previously voted for when in coalition with the Tories. Many people found her unlikable too.

The Lib Dems should never have taken a revoke position either. That automatically ignored about half the country. I think they'd have had a much better shot pushing a 2nd referendum position, on the grounds so much had changed in the 3 years since the original referendum.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The same thing they always do, back the losing horse.

Being so undemocratic and taking the position that they would ignore the result of the biggest exercise in democracy this country has ever known and revoke article 50 if they secured a majority doomed them from the outset.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The country shot it's foot off with Brexit and then the Lib dems decided to blow their other one off with their unilateral revoke article 50 pledge.

That about put's it in a nutshell.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Swinson was a lousy leader. She was hopelessly compromised by the things she'd previously voted for when in coalition with the Tories. Many people found her unlikable too.

I agree but she went all in on the revoke and found not enough people who voted to remain were willing to vote only on Brexit lines in a general election.

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By *hetalkingstoveMan
over a year ago

London

They actually increased their vote share, I believe.

It's always going to be hard for LD to make much progress under FPTP. They had about 1/4 the number of votes as the Tories and got about 1/30 of the number of seats.

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By *mmabluTV/TS
over a year ago

upton wirral

Having a silly little school girl running party does not help,also being non democratic looks bad

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'm listening to her fair well speech now.

That woman will never learn, it's everybody's fault except hers and she's not going to apologise for it

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'll give her a clue, when you keep referring to nationalism like it's Nazism your gonna get your liberal arse kicked.

So long you dipshit

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By *oodmessMan
over a year ago

yumsville

Leader wasn't strong enough. Vince did a lot to garner remain sentiment then in flat-lined with leadership change.

She changed her policy very early on from revoke to referendum which was unclear or too like Labours deal/remain referendum.

She didn't give clarity on her coalition plans. At first no coalition, then small press briefs that they vote down all legislation they didn't like. Their record with the Torys was an obv comparison. Then the Treasury bill - Labour win, treasury bill would be needed, but they wouldn't vote for it didn't make sense.

But they did get 12% of the the vote share??

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By *lex46TV/TS
over a year ago

Near Wells

"Having a silly little school girl running party does not help,also being non democratic looks bad"

I completely agree with this. When she first became leader I thought she might be OK. The more I saw of her, the more I went of her, so much so that I turned the TV over when she spoke.

Her shrieky angry annoying voice comes across as a spoilt shouty girl.

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