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By *uysx2 OP   Couple (MM)
over a year ago

Birmingham

If the Election on Thursday doesn't go the way I want it to, can we have a people's vote until it does?

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By *rwhowhatwherewhyMan
over a year ago

Aylesbury

Sure, why ever not

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By *VineMan
over a year ago

The right place

Yes, you get another chance to have your say in five years time. Or less.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"If the Election on Thursday doesn't go the way I want it to, can we have a people's vote until it does?"

You get that opportunity every 4-5 years. That’s how it works. Things change. You vote accordingly.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Meh not voting there all liers so fuck em

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Meh not voting there all liers so fuck em"

Don’t ever complain then.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Meh not voting there all liers so fuck em

Don’t ever complain then. "

er yeah i complain at the quality of people available to pick from

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By *corpio67Man
over a year ago

hillingdon

Whoever you vote for the government always wins!!!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Meh not voting there all liers so fuck em

Don’t ever complain then. "

Why? Does his lack of voting effect his freedom of speech? Unless the Nazi party are in the running, I don't think this will happen

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Nobody will give me everything i want tory seems a choice but universal credits a joke

Corbin cant still decide what he wants to do on brexit keeps throwing grenades but never follows thru with publishing proof so cant be him

Lib dem bird will reverse brexit removing democrasy madness

Brexit party would leave us in chaos no manifesto

Im not Scottish or welsh so there teams are out so why should i bother

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Nobody will give me everything i want tory seems a choice but universal credits a joke

Corbin cant still decide what he wants to do on brexit keeps throwing grenades but never follows thru with publishing proof so cant be him

Lib dem bird will reverse brexit removing democrasy madness

Brexit party would leave us in chaos no manifesto

Im not Scottish or welsh so there teams are out so why should i bother "

I'm exactly the same, I won't be voting either

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Nobody will give me everything i want tory seems a choice but universal credits a joke

Corbin cant still decide what he wants to do on brexit keeps throwing grenades but never follows thru with publishing proof so cant be him

Lib dem bird will reverse brexit removing democrasy madness

Brexit party would leave us in chaos no manifesto

Im not Scottish or welsh so there teams are out so why should i bother

I'm exactly the same, I won't be voting either"

what about we for our own what to call it hmmm

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Nobody will give me everything i want tory seems a choice but universal credits a joke

Corbin cant still decide what he wants to do on brexit keeps throwing grenades but never follows thru with publishing proof so cant be him

Lib dem bird will reverse brexit removing democrasy madness

Brexit party would leave us in chaos no manifesto

Im not Scottish or welsh so there teams are out so why should i bother

I'm exactly the same, I won't be voting eitherwhat about we for our own what to call it hmmm"

eh?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Nobody will give me everything i want tory seems a choice but universal credits a joke

Corbin cant still decide what he wants to do on brexit keeps throwing grenades but never follows thru with publishing proof so cant be him

Lib dem bird will reverse brexit removing democrasy madness

Brexit party would leave us in chaos no manifesto

Im not Scottish or welsh so there teams are out so why should i bother

I'm exactly the same, I won't be voting eitherwhat about we for our own what to call it hmmm

eh?"

form our own god damn lazy fingers

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)

If the election tomorrow is merely advisory, with terms not defined (so no one knew what they were voting for), and there was electoral fraud involved... Another vote with these things rectified would probably be a good idea, along with prosecution of those who'd dare try to grossly mislead the public.

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By *aitonelMan
over a year ago

Travelling


"Meh not voting there all liers so fuck em

Don’t ever complain then.

Why? Does his lack of voting effect his freedom of speech? Unless the Nazi party are in the running, I don't think this will happen"

Indeed! Nobody every truely knows the best party, its either too late, or you never know if the other option would have been better. The only ones who can't complain are those that voted us in the mess we ended up in.

In the words of a very wise man

"I don’t vote. Fuck ’em. FUCK THEM. I don’t vote. Two reasons. Two reasons I don’t vote: first of all, it’s meaningless. This country was bought and sold and paid for a long time ago. The shit they shuffle around every four years doesn’t mean a fuckin’ thing. And secondly, I don’t vote ’cause I believe if you vote, you have no right to complain. People like to twist that around. I know, they say, they say: “well if you don’t vote you have no right to complain”. But where’s the logic in that? If you vote, and you elect dishonest, incompetent people, and they get into office and screw everything up, well you are responsible for what they have done, YOU caused the problem, you voted them in, you have no right to complain. I on the other hand, who did not vote, WHO DID NOT VOTE. Who in fact did not even leave the house on election-day, am in no way responsible for what these people have done, and have every RIGHT to complain as loud as I want, about the mess YOU created, that I had nothing to do with."

I do vote, if I feel I can settle on a party and their policies, and opinions. But I fully stand behind the above quote in circumstances of no trust.

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By *rwhowhatwherewhyMan
over a year ago

Aylesbury


"If the election tomorrow is merely advisory, with terms not defined (so no one knew what they were voting for), and there was electoral fraud involved... Another vote with these things rectified would probably be a good idea, along with prosecution of those who'd dare try to grossly mislead the public. "

And advisory vote, hmmmm. Didnt we have one of those in 2016?

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By *rwhowhatwherewhyMan
over a year ago

Aylesbury


"Nobody will give me everything i want tory seems a choice but universal credits a joke

Corbin cant still decide what he wants to do on brexit keeps throwing grenades but never follows thru with publishing proof so cant be him

Lib dem bird will reverse brexit removing democrasy madness

Brexit party would leave us in chaos no manifesto

Im not Scottish or welsh so there teams are out so why should i bother "

You know that you can spoil your paper as a protest right? It all gets counted

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By *naswingdressWoman
over a year ago

Manchester (she/her)


"If the election tomorrow is merely advisory, with terms not defined (so no one knew what they were voting for), and there was electoral fraud involved... Another vote with these things rectified would probably be a good idea, along with prosecution of those who'd dare try to grossly mislead the public.

And advisory vote, hmmmm. Didnt we have one of those in 2016? "

Maybe

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I think everyone and I mean everyone should refuse to vote. Send a clear message that the whole country isn't happy with this mess they have created

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Corbin cant still decide what he wants to do on brexit keeps throwing grenades but never follows thru with publishing proof so cant be him

"

Corbyn has explained several times what Labour's plan is on Brexit. I cannot comprehend why so many people are still pretending not to understand it. It's staggeringly simple and by far the least divisive option available.

1. Negotiate a new deal. One that isn't just Theresa May's deal with a few bits left out.

2. Ask the people if they want to a) leave with the new deal or b) stay in the EU.

If it really is still "ThE wIlL oF tHe PeOpLe", then the majority will vote to leave and those that think the first referendum was sold on false pretences will at least feel like they had a fair hearing.

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By *uysx2 OP   Couple (MM)
over a year ago

Birmingham


"Corbin cant still decide what he wants to do on brexit keeps throwing grenades but never follows thru with publishing proof so cant be him

Corbyn has explained several times what Labour's plan is on Brexit. I cannot comprehend why so many people are still pretending not to understand it. It's staggeringly simple and by far the least divisive option available.

1. Negotiate a new deal. One that isn't just Theresa May's deal with a few bits left out.

2. Ask the people if they want to a) leave with the new deal or b) stay in the EU.

If it really is still "ThE wIlL oF tHe PeOpLe", then the majority will vote to leave and those that think the first referendum was sold on false pretences will at least feel like they had a fair hearing."

We've voted once. We voted to leave. I cannot comprehend why so many people are still pretending not to understand it. It's staggeringly simple.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Yeah, there seems to be a lot of staggeringly simple going about.

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By *lex46TV/TS
over a year ago

Near Wells


"Corbin cant still decide what he wants to do on brexit keeps throwing grenades but never follows thru with publishing proof so cant be him

Corbyn has explained several times what Labour's plan is on Brexit. I cannot comprehend why so many people are still pretending not to understand it. It's staggeringly simple and by far the least divisive option available.

1. Negotiate a new deal. One that isn't just Theresa May's deal with a few bits left out.

2. Ask the people if they want to a) leave with the new deal or b) stay in the EU.

If it really is still "ThE wIlL oF tHe PeOpLe", then the majority will vote to leave and those that think the first referendum was sold on false pretences will at least feel like they had a fair hearing.

We've voted once. We voted to leave. I cannot comprehend why so many people are still pretending not to understand it. It's staggeringly simple."

To make that properly democratic, there should be a third choice :

C) leave with no deal.

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By *iverpool LoverMan
over a year ago

liverpool


"Corbin cant still decide what he wants to do on brexit keeps throwing grenades but never follows thru with publishing proof so cant be him

Corbyn has explained several times what Labour's plan is on Brexit. I cannot comprehend why so many people are still pretending not to understand it. It's staggeringly simple and by far the least divisive option available.

1. Negotiate a new deal. One that isn't just Theresa May's deal with a few bits left out.

2. Ask the people if they want to a) leave with the new deal or b) stay in the EU.

If it really is still "ThE wIlL oF tHe PeOpLe", then the majority will vote to leave and those that think the first referendum was sold on false pretences will at least feel like they had a fair hearing.

We've voted once. We voted to leave. I cannot comprehend why so many people are still pretending not to understand it. It's staggeringly simple."

But the leave campaign was full of lies so why should peoples votes be counted?

Including my vote.

The 2nd referendum that labour offers will allow me and the other millions to vote accordingly when we know exactly what brexit will be.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Corbin cant still decide what he wants to do on brexit keeps throwing grenades but never follows thru with publishing proof so cant be him

Corbyn has explained several times what Labour's plan is on Brexit. I cannot comprehend why so many people are still pretending not to understand it. It's staggeringly simple and by far the least divisive option available.

1. Negotiate a new deal. One that isn't just Theresa May's deal with a few bits left out.

2. Ask the people if they want to a) leave with the new deal or b) stay in the EU.

If it really is still "ThE wIlL oF tHe PeOpLe", then the majority will vote to leave and those that think the first referendum was sold on false pretences will at least feel like they had a fair hearing.

We've voted once. We voted to leave. I cannot comprehend why so many people are still pretending not to understand it. It's staggeringly simple.

But the leave campaign was full of lies so why should peoples votes be counted?

Including my vote.

The 2nd referendum that labour offers will allow me and the other millions to vote accordingly when we know exactly what brexit will be.

"

Exactly this. Same as before, but informed.

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By *rightonsteveMan
over a year ago

Brighton - even Hove!

At the first referendum, there was little information on the effects a ‘Brexit’ would have so people voted without knowing. Now people are aware of the governments own data that says there will be a negative impact, then why not vote again? Loads of young people will be affected and they didn’t get a voice last time. If people are so confident that Brexit is good, then obviously the second referendum will support that view. And if they’re not, it won’t. What are people afraid of when a second referendum is suggested?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Well, that escalated quickly.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"At the first referendum, there was little information on the effects a ‘Brexit’ would have so people voted without knowing. Now people are aware of the governments own data that says there will be a negative impact, then why not vote again? Loads of young people will be affected and they didn’t get a voice last time. If people are so confident that Brexit is good, then obviously the second referendum will support that view. And if they’re not, it won’t. What are people afraid of when a second referendum is suggested?"

They are afraid that they will lose and that would happen. And democracy. They repeat this word and have no idea what it really means. For them, a democracy based on lies is also a democracy. Sad but true.

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By *obka3Couple
over a year ago

bournemouth


"At the first referendum, there was little information on the effects a ‘Brexit’ would have so people voted without knowing. Now people are aware of the governments own data that says there will be a negative impact, then why not vote again? Loads of young people will be affected and they didn’t get a voice last time. If people are so confident that Brexit is good, then obviously the second referendum will support that view. And if they’re not, it won’t. What are people afraid of when a second referendum is suggested?"

Hysterical, left supporting voters say anything put out by the government is a lie, yet every remainer believes every word of a remain supporting civil service/government opinion on brexit

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By *obka3Couple
over a year ago

bournemouth


"At the first referendum, there was little information on the effects a ‘Brexit’ would have so people voted without knowing. Now people are aware of the governments own data that says there will be a negative impact, then why not vote again? Loads of young people will be affected and they didn’t get a voice last time. If people are so confident that Brexit is good, then obviously the second referendum will support that view. And if they’re not, it won’t. What are people afraid of when a second referendum is suggested?

They are afraid that they will lose and that would happen. And democracy. They repeat this word and have no idea what it really means. For them, a democracy based on lies is also a democracy. Sad but true. "

Except for the fact that many remain voters now say that they would vote leave to support democracy, its just as likely to be a bigger leave victory than last time, of course you bad losers will want another vote then just incase it goes your way

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By *rightonsteveMan
over a year ago

Brighton - even Hove!


"At the first referendum, there was little information on the effects a ‘Brexit’ would have so people voted without knowing. Now people are aware of the governments own data that says there will be a negative impact, then why not vote again? Loads of young people will be affected and they didn’t get a voice last time. If people are so confident that Brexit is good, then obviously the second referendum will support that view. And if they’re not, it won’t. What are people afraid of when a second referendum is suggested?

Hysterical, left supporting voters say anything put out by the government is a lie, yet every remainer believes every word of a remain supporting civil service/government opinion on brexit "

I don’t see any hysteria. I didn’t say ‘anything put out by the government is a lie’, not ‘every’ remainder believes....etc., and the civil service is not political. So that leaves your comment looking rather facile as a comeback. Try to think of something against the argument of having a second referendum instead of attacking me.

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By *obka3Couple
over a year ago

bournemouth


"At the first referendum, there was little information on the effects a ‘Brexit’ would have so people voted without knowing. Now people are aware of the governments own data that says there will be a negative impact, then why not vote again? Loads of young people will be affected and they didn’t get a voice last time. If people are so confident that Brexit is good, then obviously the second referendum will support that view. And if they’re not, it won’t. What are people afraid of when a second referendum is suggested?

Hysterical, left supporting voters say anything put out by the government is a lie, yet every remainer believes every word of a remain supporting civil service/government opinion on brexit

I don’t see any hysteria. I didn’t say ‘anything put out by the government is a lie’, not ‘every’ remainder believes....etc., and the civil service is not political. So that leaves your comment looking rather facile as a comeback. Try to think of something against the argument of having a second referendum instead of attacking me. "

I havent attacked you at all,hysterical as in laughter at the hypocrisy of the two points of view, I didnt say you had those views but as a general response to your post.

AS to why not a second vote, it would be the death of democracy, leave would win again, did you not notice the euro vote in the summer ? Decent honest folk by the thousands who voted remain would now vote leave in the belief that the UK abides by it votes.

Of course the remain side never made one exaggeration

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"At the first referendum, there was little information on the effects a ‘Brexit’ would have so people voted without knowing. Now people are aware of the governments own data that says there will be a negative impact, then why not vote again? Loads of young people will be affected and they didn’t get a voice last time. If people are so confident that Brexit is good, then obviously the second referendum will support that view. And if they’re not, it won’t. What are people afraid of when a second referendum is suggested?

They are afraid that they will lose and that would happen. And democracy. They repeat this word and have no idea what it really means. For them, a democracy based on lies is also a democracy. Sad but true.

Except for the fact that many remain voters now say that they would vote leave to support democracy, its just as likely to be a bigger leave victory than last time, of course you bad losers will want another vote then just incase it goes your way"

Are you sure? How many of them would do it? Do you have any evidence for this? Real evidence and not from the world of fantasy? Or maybe you know how many leavers have changed their minds and will voted to stay.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Corbin cant still decide what he wants to do on brexit keeps throwing grenades but never follows thru with publishing proof so cant be him

Corbyn has explained several times what Labour's plan is on Brexit. I cannot comprehend why so many people are still pretending not to understand it. It's staggeringly simple and by far the least divisive option available.

1. Negotiate a new deal. One that isn't just Theresa May's deal with a few bits left out.

2. Ask the people if they want to a) leave with the new deal or b) stay in the EU.

If it really is still "ThE wIlL oF tHe PeOpLe", then the majority will vote to leave and those that think the first referendum was sold on false pretences will at least feel like they had a fair hearing.

We've voted once. We voted to leave. I cannot comprehend why so many people are still pretending not to understand it. It's staggeringly simple."

It was advisory . I cannot comprehend why so many people are still pretending not to understand it. It is staggeringly simple .

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By *rightonsteveMan
over a year ago

Brighton - even Hove!

If being in the EU is such a lousy idea and a country would be better off out than in, then why haven’t more countries left already? That’s a rhetorical question btw.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"If being in the EU is such a lousy idea and a country would be better off out than in, then why haven’t more countries left already? That’s a rhetorical question btw. "

And why wasn’t there any protests and marches around Britain demanding a referendum before Cameron agreed to have one?

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By *rightonsteveMan
over a year ago

Brighton - even Hove!


"If being in the EU is such a lousy idea and a country would be better off out than in, then why haven’t more countries left already? That’s a rhetorical question btw.

And why wasn’t there any protests and marches around Britain demanding a referendum before Cameron agreed to have one? "

erm.....people thought it was good?

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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago

near ipswich


"If being in the EU is such a lousy idea and a country would be better off out than in, then why haven’t more countries left already? That’s a rhetorical question btw.

And why wasn’t there any protests and marches around Britain demanding a referendum before Cameron agreed to have one? "

Maybe the leavers were happy to respect the last referendum until they got a chance to change it unlike the remoaners of today who just cannot accept a result and are out on the streets ecause they didnt get their own way.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"If being in the EU is such a lousy idea and a country would be better off out than in, then why haven’t more countries left already? That’s a rhetorical question btw.

And why wasn’t there any protests and marches around Britain demanding a referendum before Cameron agreed to have one? Maybe the leavers were happy to respect the last referendum until they got a chance to change it unlike the remoaners of today who just cannot accept a result and are out on the streets ecause they didnt get their own way. "

That really doesn’t answer the question. You do realise Cameron called the referendum to appease and hopefully get rid of the anti EU element in his party, it had nothing to do with what you or the rest of the leave voters wanted? What will happen in 40 years time if we have another referendum to re join? You won’t be alive but you must be happy with that happening?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"If being in the EU is such a lousy idea and a country would be better off out than in, then why haven’t more countries left already? That’s a rhetorical question btw.

And why wasn’t there any protests and marches around Britain demanding a referendum before Cameron agreed to have one? Maybe the leavers were happy to respect the last referendum until they got a chance to change it unlike the remoaners of today who just cannot accept a result and are out on the streets ecause they didnt get their own way. "

People don't need to accept something that was advisory. Why is this so hard to understand?

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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago

near ipswich


"If being in the EU is such a lousy idea and a country would be better off out than in, then why haven’t more countries left already? That’s a rhetorical question btw.

And why wasn’t there any protests and marches around Britain demanding a referendum before Cameron agreed to have one? Maybe the leavers were happy to respect the last referendum until they got a chance to change it unlike the remoaners of today who just cannot accept a result and are out on the streets ecause they didnt get their own way.

People don't need to accept something that was advisory. Why is this so hard to understand?"

why is it so hard to understand that both labour and the tories said they would accept the result so all this advisory crap doesnt hold water.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"If being in the EU is such a lousy idea and a country would be better off out than in, then why haven’t more countries left already? That’s a rhetorical question btw.

And why wasn’t there any protests and marches around Britain demanding a referendum before Cameron agreed to have one? Maybe the leavers were happy to respect the last referendum until they got a chance to change it unlike the remoaners of today who just cannot accept a result and are out on the streets ecause they didnt get their own way.

People don't need to accept something that was advisory. Why is this so hard to understand?why is it so hard to understand that both labour and the tories said they would accept the result so all this advisory crap doesnt hold water."

But both parties tell lies? Wouldn’t you agree?

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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago

near ipswich


"If being in the EU is such a lousy idea and a country would be better off out than in, then why haven’t more countries left already? That’s a rhetorical question btw.

And why wasn’t there any protests and marches around Britain demanding a referendum before Cameron agreed to have one? Maybe the leavers were happy to respect the last referendum until they got a chance to change it unlike the remoaners of today who just cannot accept a result and are out on the streets ecause they didnt get their own way.

People don't need to accept something that was advisory. Why is this so hard to understand?why is it so hard to understand that both labour and the tories said they would accept the result so all this advisory crap doesnt hold water.

But both parties tell lies? Wouldn’t you agree? "

well labour certainly did on this occasion.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"If being in the EU is such a lousy idea and a country would be better off out than in, then why haven’t more countries left already? That’s a rhetorical question btw.

And why wasn’t there any protests and marches around Britain demanding a referendum before Cameron agreed to have one? Maybe the leavers were happy to respect the last referendum until they got a chance to change it unlike the remoaners of today who just cannot accept a result and are out on the streets ecause they didnt get their own way.

People don't need to accept something that was advisory. Why is this so hard to understand?why is it so hard to understand that both labour and the tories said they would accept the result so all this advisory crap doesnt hold water."

So looks like you trust the labors that they wanted good for country

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"If being in the EU is such a lousy idea and a country would be better off out than in, then why haven’t more countries left already? That’s a rhetorical question btw.

And why wasn’t there any protests and marches around Britain demanding a referendum before Cameron agreed to have one? Maybe the leavers were happy to respect the last referendum until they got a chance to change it unlike the remoaners of today who just cannot accept a result and are out on the streets ecause they didnt get their own way.

People don't need to accept something that was advisory. Why is this so hard to understand?why is it so hard to understand that both labour and the tories said they would accept the result so all this advisory crap doesnt hold water.

But both parties tell lies? Wouldn’t you agree? well labour certainly did on this occasion. "

Why? It is the conservatives who are in government? Labour don’t control how or when we leave the EU? Maybe Boris and the Tories are making such a mess of Brexit that they are hoping it won’t happen? How else can you explain what is happening ?

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By *rightonsteveMan
over a year ago

Brighton - even Hove!

It was the conservatives that pulled the withdrawal agreement - not Labour, so its a lie for Bojo to say that it was Parliament that stopped Brexit. It was, in fact, himself.

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By *oi_LucyCouple
over a year ago

Barbados


"If the Election on Thursday doesn't go the way I want it to, can we have a people's vote until it does?"

Yes. Every 4-5 years.

Or 4-5 months if you are the Tories.

-Matt

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By *ethnmelvCouple
over a year ago

Cardiff


"It was the conservatives that pulled the withdrawal agreement - not Labour, so its a lie for Bojo to say that it was Parliament that stopped Brexit. It was, in fact, himself. "

Hi Steve, will you stop talking sense on this forum. It gets ignored by the usual suspects!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"If the Election on Thursday doesn't go the way I want it to, can we have a people's vote until it does?

Yes. Every 4-5 years.

Or 4-5 months if you are the Tories.

-Matt"

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By *oi_LucyCouple
over a year ago

Barbados


"Nobody will give me everything i want tory seems a choice but universal credits a joke

Corbin cant still decide what he wants to do on brexit keeps throwing grenades but never follows thru with publishing proof so cant be him

Lib dem bird will reverse brexit removing democrasy madness

Brexit party would leave us in chaos no manifesto

Im not Scottish or welsh so there teams are out so why should i bother "

Why do you think LibDems reversing Brexit would be "removing democracy"? Or do you just not understand what the word "democracy" means?

Why do you think that if the majority of people vote for a political party to do something. And they do that thing they promised to do, that that is not democracy? I mean people are voting for the Tories to "get Brexit done" despite them knowing that is a lie. You don't seem to be complaining that would be a "removal of democracy".

-Matt

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By *oi_LucyCouple
over a year ago

Barbados


"If being in the EU is such a lousy idea and a country would be better off out than in, then why haven’t more countries left already? That’s a rhetorical question btw.

And why wasn’t there any protests and marches around Britain demanding a referendum before Cameron agreed to have one? Maybe the leavers were happy to respect the last referendum until they got a chance to change it unlike the remoaners of today who just cannot accept a result and are out on the streets ecause they didnt get their own way.

People don't need to accept something that was advisory. Why is this so hard to understand?why is it so hard to understand that both labour and the tories said they would accept the result so all this advisory crap doesnt hold water."

Umm... because it doesn't matter what they say, it matter what the law is.

I mean, you could say that all the leave campaigners were saying we'd get a deal and this would be easy and done and dusted by teatime. But that doesn't make it true.

-Matt

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By *ara JTV/TS
over a year ago

Bristol East


"why is it so hard to understand that both labour and the tories said they would accept the result so all this advisory crap doesnt hold water."

Both did - both voted to trigger Article 50.

That allowed the Conservative administration to enter talks with the EU about the terms of exit.

Basically, the terms are crap, so Parliament has said it cannot support terms that leave the country worse off.

The Leave campaign was based on the premise the country would be better off, not worse off.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"But both parties tell lies? Wouldn’t you agree? "

Well, not really, no:

https://www.metro.co.uk/2019/12/10/investigation-finds-88-tory-ads-misleading-compared-0-labour-11651802/amp/

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"why is it so hard to understand that both labour and the tories said they would accept the result so all this advisory crap doesnt hold water.

Both did - both voted to trigger Article 50.

That allowed the Conservative administration to enter talks with the EU about the terms of exit.

Basically, the terms are crap, so Parliament has said it cannot support terms that leave the country worse off.

The Leave campaign was based on the premise the country would be better off, not worse off.

"

Very true

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By *oxychick35Couple
over a year ago

thornaby


"Nobody will give me everything i want tory seems a choice but universal credits a joke

Corbin cant still decide what he wants to do on brexit keeps throwing grenades but never follows thru with publishing proof so cant be him

Lib dem bird will reverse brexit removing democrasy madness

Brexit party would leave us in chaos no manifesto

Im not Scottish or welsh so there teams are out so why should i bother

Why do you think LibDems reversing Brexit would be "removing democracy"? Or do you just not understand what the word "democracy" means?

Why do you think that if the majority of people vote for a political party to do something. And they do that thing they promised to do, that that is not democracy? I mean people are voting for the Tories to "get Brexit done" despite them knowing that is a lie. You don't seem to be complaining that would be a "removal of democracy".

-Matt"

isnt that what happened the last GE tho the two party’s that got most votes had promised to leave that’s democracy for ya lol

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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago

near ipswich


"Nobody will give me everything i want tory seems a choice but universal credits a joke

Corbin cant still decide what he wants to do on brexit keeps throwing grenades but never follows thru with publishing proof so cant be him

Lib dem bird will reverse brexit removing democrasy madness

Brexit party would leave us in chaos no manifesto

Im not Scottish or welsh so there teams are out so why should i bother

Why do you think LibDems reversing Brexit would be "removing democracy"? Or do you just not understand what the word "democracy" means?

Why do you think that if the majority of people vote for a political party to do something. And they do that thing they promised to do, that that is not democracy? I mean people are voting for the Tories to "get Brexit done" despite them knowing that is a lie. You don't seem to be complaining that would be a "removal of democracy".

-Mattisnt that what happened the last GE tho the two party’s that got most votes had promised to leave that’s democracy for ya lol"

seems its only democracy to some when they get what they want.

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By *uysx2 OP   Couple (MM)
over a year ago

Birmingham

Only remain voters think that leave voters didn't know what they were voting for.

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By *rightonsteveMan
over a year ago

Brighton - even Hove!


"It was the conservatives that pulled the withdrawal agreement - not Labour, so its a lie for Bojo to say that it was Parliament that stopped Brexit. It was, in fact, himself.

Hi Steve, will you stop talking sense on this forum. It gets ignored by the usual suspects! "

I just don’t understand why people are being so stupid and ill informed. Perhaps it’s a lack of education.

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By *rightonsteveMan
over a year ago

Brighton - even Hove!


"Only remain voters think that leave voters didn't know what they were voting for."

Blimey! Leave Prescience!

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By *uysx2 OP   Couple (MM)
over a year ago

Birmingham


"Only remain voters think that leave voters didn't know what they were voting for.

Blimey! Leave Prescience! "

I'm a leave voter so I'm too dumb to understand big words like prescience.

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By *oxychick35Couple
over a year ago

thornaby


"Only remain voters think that leave voters didn't know what they were voting for.

Blimey! Leave Prescience!

I'm a leave voter so I'm too dumb to understand big words like prescience."

winder how many ppl on here who call leavers dumb have family and friends who voted leave wonder if there as vocal about there true feelings to them

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By *rightonsteveMan
over a year ago

Brighton - even Hove!


"Only remain voters think that leave voters didn't know what they were voting for.

Blimey! Leave Prescience!

I'm a leave voter so I'm too dumb to understand big words like prescience."

I don’t know but I like your pics

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By *rightonsteveMan
over a year ago

Brighton - even Hove!


"Only remain voters think that leave voters didn't know what they were voting for.

Blimey! Leave Prescience!

I'm a leave voter so I'm too dumb to understand big words like prescience.winder how many ppl on here who call leavers dumb have family and friends who voted leave wonder if there as vocal about there true feelings to them "

If I’ve translated correctly, I can assure you that I haven’t called any individual ‘dumb’. If you mean the Americanism where ‘dumb’ means ‘stupid’ then my comment above was referencing people in general who appear to have an inability to link facts with reality.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Only remain voters think that leave voters didn't know what they were voting for."

You didn’t and you still don’t

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By *rightonsteveMan
over a year ago

Brighton - even Hove!


"Only remain voters think that leave voters didn't know what they were voting for.

You didn’t and you still don’t "

That sums up what I said earlier - no-one knew how the EU were going to be in the withdrawal agreement negotiation because it had never been done before, so to suggest that anyone did know is ludicrous in my opinion. If I’m wrong, then can those leavers who know what will be happening please tell me next weeks lottery numbers.

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By *uysx2 OP   Couple (MM)
over a year ago

Birmingham


"Only remain voters think that leave voters didn't know what they were voting for.

You didn’t and you still don’t "

Whether we did or we didn't, we won

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Only remain voters think that leave voters didn't know what they were voting for.

You didn’t and you still don’t

Whether we did or we didn't, we won "

What did you ‘win’? Have we left the EU yet?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Only remain voters think that leave voters didn't know what they were voting for.

Blimey! Leave Prescience!

I'm a leave voter so I'm too dumb to understand big words like prescience.winder how many ppl on here who call leavers dumb have family and friends who voted leave wonder if there as vocal about there true feelings to them "

Voting to leave wasn't dumb at all

The reasons for voting to leave many give are factually incorrect and can easily be proven wrong but the refusal to admit they are wrong "is" dumb.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Only remain voters think that leave voters didn't know what they were voting for.

You didn’t and you still don’t

Whether we did or we didn't, we won

What did you ‘win’? Have we left the EU yet? "

I think we will do, I hope we do so the economic arguments can be laid to rest

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By *uysx2 OP   Couple (MM)
over a year ago

Birmingham


"Only remain voters think that leave voters didn't know what they were voting for.

You didn’t and you still don’t

Whether we did or we didn't, we won

What did you ‘win’? Have we left the EU yet? "

Ask me that again on the 1st of February when Boris has taken us out of the EU

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By *rightonsteveMan
over a year ago

Brighton - even Hove!

Here’s a question: what, if we leave the EU, we realise it was an economic disaster? Then what?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Only remain voters think that leave voters didn't know what they were voting for.

Blimey! Leave Prescience!

I'm a leave voter so I'm too dumb to understand big words like prescience.winder how many ppl on here who call leavers dumb have family and friends who voted leave wonder if there as vocal about there true feelings to them

Voting to leave wasn't dumb at all

The reasons for voting to leave many give are factually incorrect and can easily be proven wrong but the refusal to admit they are wrong "is" dumb.

"

Many people get angry at those pointing out the lies rather than at the original liars. It's bizarre.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Only remain voters think that leave voters didn't know what they were voting for.

You didn’t and you still don’t

Whether we did or we didn't, we won

What did you ‘win’? Have we left the EU yet?

Ask me that again on the 1st of February when Boris has taken us out of the EU "

Come on, you know what you voted for ? What did we ‘win ‘?

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By *oxychick35Couple
over a year ago

thornaby


"Here’s a question: what, if we leave the EU, we realise it was an economic disaster? Then what? "
then we join back up lmao

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By *rightonsteveMan
over a year ago

Brighton - even Hove!


"Here’s a question: what, if we leave the EU, we realise it was an economic disaster? Then what? then we join back up lmao"

it’s roundsbouts

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Here’s a question: what, if we leave the EU, we realise it was an economic disaster? Then what? then we join back up lmao"

I agree, once the generation that voted to leave has become extinct there will be pressure from the country to rejoin and this sorry mess will be consigned to history

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By *rightonsteveMan
over a year ago

Brighton - even Hove!


"Here’s a question: what, if we leave the EU, we realise it was an economic disaster? Then what? then we join back up lmao

I agree, once the generation that voted to leave has become extinct there will be pressure from the country to rejoin and this sorry mess will be consigned to history "

We are living History!

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By *uysx2 OP   Couple (MM)
over a year ago

Birmingham


"Only remain voters think that leave voters didn't know what they were voting for.

You didn’t and you still don’t

Whether we did or we didn't, we won

What did you ‘win’? Have we left the EU yet?

Ask me that again on the 1st of February when Boris has taken us out of the EU

Come on, you know what you voted for ? What did we ‘win ‘? "

I voted for free chocolate and unicorns, sunshine every day and Santa Claus and the toothfairy and Disney films all day long....oh wait...no that's the Labour party manifesto.

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By *oxychick35Couple
over a year ago

thornaby


"Here’s a question: what, if we leave the EU, we realise it was an economic disaster? Then what? then we join back up lmao

I agree, once the generation that voted to leave has become extinct there will be pressure from the country to rejoin and this sorry mess will be consigned to history "

that’s if there’s anything worth joining then

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I'm a leave voter so I'm too dumb to understand big words like prescience.winder how many ppl on here who call leavers dumb have family and friends who voted leave wonder if there as vocal about there true feelings to them "

Absolutely. My dad voted leave and I told him I think he's a dick. He couldn't then and can't now produce one solid reason why it will benefit us.

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By *uysx2 OP   Couple (MM)
over a year ago

Birmingham


"I'm a leave voter so I'm too dumb to understand big words like prescience.winder how many ppl on here who call leavers dumb have family and friends who voted leave wonder if there as vocal about there true feelings to them

Absolutely. My dad voted leave and I told him I think he's a dick. He couldn't then and can't now produce one solid reason why it will benefit us."

We get to have our blue passports again. I rest my case

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By *rightonsteveMan
over a year ago

Brighton - even Hove!


"I'm a leave voter so I'm too dumb to understand big words like prescience.winder how many ppl on here who call leavers dumb have family and friends who voted leave wonder if there as vocal about there true feelings to them

Absolutely. My dad voted leave and I told him I think he's a dick. He couldn't then and can't now produce one solid reason why it will benefit us."

If there were better or more benefits to not being in the EU then why did we join in the first place? I can’t see any benefit to leaving the EU. Shortages of some foods for starters....long delays at ports......expensive wine......having to buy a EU driving permit.....hugely minor issues but issues that we don’t currently have.

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By *rightonsteveMan
over a year ago

Brighton - even Hove!


"I'm a leave voter so I'm too dumb to understand big words like prescience.winder how many ppl on here who call leavers dumb have family and friends who voted leave wonder if there as vocal about there true feelings to them

Absolutely. My dad voted leave and I told him I think he's a dick. He couldn't then and can't now produce one solid reason why it will benefit us.

We get to have our blue passports again. I rest my case "

printed by a foreign company

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Here’s a question: what, if we leave the EU, we realise it was an economic disaster? Then what? then we join back up lmao"

If we did, there's no way on earth they'd give us a deal anything like as good as the one we've got now. We're in such a strong position and we're throwing it away on a whim.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Only remain voters think that leave voters didn't know what they were voting for.

You didn’t and you still don’t

Whether we did or we didn't, we won

What did you ‘win’? Have we left the EU yet?

Ask me that again on the 1st of February when Boris has taken us out of the EU

Come on, you know what you voted for ? What did we ‘win ‘?

I voted for free chocolate and unicorns, sunshine every day and Santa Claus and the toothfairy and Disney films all day long....oh wait...no that's the Labour party manifesto."

You seem to be struggling , what did we win ? Come on, you know the answer

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Here’s a question: what, if we leave the EU, we realise it was an economic disaster? Then what? then we join back up lmao

I agree, once the generation that voted to leave has become extinct there will be pressure from the country to rejoin and this sorry mess will be consigned to history that’s if there’s anything worth joining then "

The EU won’t fail because we leave and the shambles we have created will probably prevent anyone else from leaving . We will be back within 20 years

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By *uysx2 OP   Couple (MM)
over a year ago

Birmingham


"I'm a leave voter so I'm too dumb to understand big words like prescience.winder how many ppl on here who call leavers dumb have family and friends who voted leave wonder if there as vocal about there true feelings to them

Absolutely. My dad voted leave and I told him I think he's a dick. He couldn't then and can't now produce one solid reason why it will benefit us.

We get to have our blue passports again. I rest my case printed by a foreign company "

Fantastic! Another benefit right there. A little firm in China can now employ more people. Brexit finding work for people all over the world

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By *rightonsteveMan
over a year ago

Brighton - even Hove!


"I'm a leave voter so I'm too dumb to understand big words like prescience.winder how many ppl on here who call leavers dumb have family and friends who voted leave wonder if there as vocal about there true feelings to them

Absolutely. My dad voted leave and I told him I think he's a dick. He couldn't then and can't now produce one solid reason why it will benefit us.

We get to have our blue passports again. I rest my case printed by a foreign company

Fantastic! Another benefit right there. A little firm in China can now employ more people. Brexit finding work for people all over the world "

but not in England....eh?

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By *uysx2 OP   Couple (MM)
over a year ago

Birmingham


"I'm a leave voter so I'm too dumb to understand big words like prescience.winder how many ppl on here who call leavers dumb have family and friends who voted leave wonder if there as vocal about there true feelings to them

Absolutely. My dad voted leave and I told him I think he's a dick. He couldn't then and can't now produce one solid reason why it will benefit us.

We get to have our blue passports again. I rest my case printed by a foreign company

Fantastic! Another benefit right there. A little firm in China can now employ more people. Brexit finding work for people all over the world but not in England....eh? "

That's a bit racist! What's wrong with a foreign company producing them?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I'm a leave voter so I'm too dumb to understand big words like prescience.winder how many ppl on here who call leavers dumb have family and friends who voted leave wonder if there as vocal about there true feelings to them

Absolutely. My dad voted leave and I told him I think he's a dick. He couldn't then and can't now produce one solid reason why it will benefit us.

We get to have our blue passports again. I rest my case printed by a foreign company

Fantastic! Another benefit right there. A little firm in China can now employ more people. Brexit finding work for people all over the world "

Brilliant, I don’t remember reading about this great news on the side of the leave campaigns red bus

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