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By *uysx2 OP   Couple (MM)
over a year ago

Birmingham

I'm still a bit undecided about my vote direction this coming Thursday.

I've obviously taken into consideration what I consider to be the following swaying points on the two main parties.

On the one hand the Conservative Boris Johnson is a bit of a rascal with the ladies and can sometimes bend the truth a bit, he’s also a bit posh.

And on the other hand..

Labours Jeremy Corbyn Invited two IRA members to parliament two weeks after the Brighton bombing.

Attended Bloody Sunday commemoration with bomber Brendan McKenna.

Attended meeting with Provisional IRA member Raymond McCartney.

Hosted IRA linked Mitchell McLaughlin in parliament.

Spoke alongside IRA terrorist Martina Anderson.

Attended Sinn Fein dinner with IRA bomber Gerry Kelly.

Chaired Irish republican event with IRA bomber Brendan MacFarlane.

Attended Bobby Sands commemoration honouring IRA terrorists.

Stood in minute’s silence for IRA gunmen shot dead by the SAS.

Refused to condemn the IRA in Sky News interview.

Refused to condemn the IRA on Question Time.

Refused to condemn IRA violence in BBC radio interview.

Signed EDM after IRA Poppy massacre massacre blaming Britain for the deaths.

Arrested while protesting in support of Brighton bomber’s co-defendants.

Lobbied government to improve visiting conditions for IRA killers.

Attended Irish republican event calling for armed conflict against Britain.

Hired suspected IRA man Ronan Bennett as a parliamentary assistant.

Hired another aide closely linked to several convicted IRA terrorists.

Heavily involved with IRA sympathising newspaper London Labour Briefing.

Put up £20,000 bail money for IRA terror suspect Roisin McAliskey.

Didn’t support IRA ceasefire.

Said Hamas and Hezbollah are his “friends“.

Called for Hamas to be removed from terror banned list.

Called Hamas “serious and hard-working“.

Attended wreath-laying at grave of Munich massacre terrorist.

Attended conference with Hamas and PFLP.

Photographed smiling with Hezbollah flag.

Attended rally with Hezbollah and Al-Muhajiroun.

Repeatedly shared platforms with PFLP plane hijacker.

Hired aide who praised Hamas’ “spirit of resistance“.

Accepted £20,000 for state TV channel of terror-sponsoring Iranian regime.

Opposed banning Britons from travelling to Syria to fight for ISIS.

Defended rights of fighters returning from Syria.

Said ISIS supporters should not be prosecuted.

Compared fighters returning from Syria to Nelson Mandela.

Said the death of Osama Bin Laden was a “tragedy“.

Wouldn’t sanction drone strike to kill ISIS leader.

Voted to allow ISIS fighters to return from Syria.

Opposed shoot to kill.

Attended event organised by terrorist sympathising IHRC.

Signed letter defending Lockerbie bombing suspects.

Wrote letter in support of conman accused of fundraising for ISIS.

Spoke of “friendship” with Mo Kozbar, who called for destruction of Israel.

Attended event with Abdullah Djaballah, who called for holy war against UK.

Called drone strikes against terrorists “obscene”.

Boasted about “opposing anti-terror legislation”.

Said laws banning jihadis from returning to Britain are “strange”.

Accepted £5,000 donation from terror supporter Ted Honderich.

Accepted £2,800 trip to Gaza from banned Islamist organisation Interpal.

Called Ibrahim Hewitt, extremist and chair of Interpal, a “very good friend”.

Accepted two more trips from the pro-Hamas group PRC.

Speaker at conference hosted by pro-Hamas group MEMO.

Met Hamas leader Ismail Haniyeh several times.

Hosted meeting with Mousa Abu Maria of banned group Islamic Jihad.

Patron of Palestine Solidarity Campaign – marches attended by Hezbollah.

Compared Israel to ISIS, Hamas, Hezbollah and al-Qaeda.

Said we should not make “value judgements” about Britons who fight for ISIS.

Received endorsement from Hamas.

Attended event with Islamic extremist Suliman Gani.

Chaired Stop the War, who praised “internationalism and solidarity” of ISIS.

Praised Raed Salah, who was jailed for inciting violence in Israel.

Signed letter defending jihadist advocacy group Cage.

Met Dyab Jahjah, who praised the killing of British soldiers.

Shared platform with representative of extremist cleric Muqtada al-Sadr.

Compared ISIS to US military in interview on Russia Today.

Opposed proscription of Hizb ut-Tahrir.

Attended conference which called on Iraqis to kill British soldiers.

Attended Al-Quds Day demonstration in support of destruction of Israel.

Supported Hamas and ISIS-linked Viva Palestina group.

Attended protest with Islamic extremist Moazzam Begg.

Made the “case for Iran” at event hosted by Khomeinist group.

Photographed smiling with Azzam Tamimi, who backed suicide bombings.

Photographed with Abdel Atwan, who sympathised with attacks on US troops.

Said Hamas should “have tea with the Queen”.

Attended ‘Meet the Resistance’ event with Hezbollah MP Hussein El Haj.

Attended event with Haifa Zangana, who praised Palestinian “mujahideen”.

Defended the infamous anti-Semitic Hamas supporter Stephen Sizer.

Attended event with pro-Hamas and Hezbollah group Naturei Karta.

Backed Holocaust denying anti-Zionist extremist Paul Eisen.

Photographed with Abdul Raoof Al Shayeb, later jailed for terror offences.

Mocked “anti-terror hysteria” while opposing powers for security services.

Named on speakers list for conference with Hamas sympathiser Ismail Patel.

Criticised drone strike that killed Jihadi John.

Said the 7/7 bombers had been denied “hope and opportunity”.

Said 9/11 was “manipulated” to make it look like bin Laden was responsible.

Failed to unequivocally condemn the 9/11 attacks.

Called Columbian terror group M-19 “comrades”.

Blamed beheading of Alan Henning on Britain.

Gave speech in support of Gaddafi regime.

Signed EDM spinning for Slobodan Milosevic.

Blamed Tunisia terror attack on “austerity”.

Voted against banning support for the IRA.

Voted against the Prevention of Terrorism Act three times during the Troubles.

Voted against emergency counter-terror laws after 9/11.

Voted against stricter punishments for being a member of a terror group.

Voted against criminalising the encouragement of terrorism.

Voted against banning al-Qaeda.

Voted against outlawing the glorification of terror.

Voted against control orders.

Voted against increased funding for the security services to combat terrorism.

So it’s a tricky one really.

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By *manaWoman
over a year ago

Basingstoke

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I'm still a bit undecided about my vote direction this coming Thursday.

I've obviously taken into consideration what I consider to be the following swaying points on the two main parties.

On the one hand the Conservative Boris Johnson is a bit of a rascal with the ladies and can sometimes bend the truth a bit, he’s also a bit posh.

And on the other hand..

Labours Jeremy Corbyn Invited two IRA members to parliament two weeks after the Brighton bombing.

Attended Bloody Sunday commemoration with bomber Brendan McKenna.

Attended meeting with Provisional IRA member Raymond McCartney.

Hosted IRA linked Mitchell McLaughlin in parliament.

Spoke alongside IRA terrorist Martina Anderson.

Attended Sinn Fein dinner with IRA bomber Gerry Kelly.

Chaired Irish republican event with IRA bomber Brendan MacFarlane.

Attended Bobby Sands commemoration honouring IRA terrorists.

Stood in minute’s silence for IRA gunmen shot dead by the SAS.

Refused to condemn the IRA in Sky News interview.

Refused to condemn the IRA on Question Time.

Refused to condemn IRA violence in BBC radio interview.

Signed EDM after IRA Poppy massacre massacre blaming Britain for the deaths.

Arrested while protesting in support of Brighton bomber’s co-defendants.

Lobbied government to improve visiting conditions for IRA killers.

Attended Irish republican event calling for armed conflict against Britain.

Hired suspected IRA man Ronan Bennett as a parliamentary assistant.

Hired another aide closely linked to several convicted IRA terrorists.

Heavily involved with IRA sympathising newspaper London Labour Briefing.

Put up £20,000 bail money for IRA terror suspect Roisin McAliskey.

Didn’t support IRA ceasefire.

Said Hamas and Hezbollah are his “friends“.

Called for Hamas to be removed from terror banned list.

Called Hamas “serious and hard-working“.

Attended wreath-laying at grave of Munich massacre terrorist.

Attended conference with Hamas and PFLP.

Photographed smiling with Hezbollah flag.

Attended rally with Hezbollah and Al-Muhajiroun.

Repeatedly shared platforms with PFLP plane hijacker.

Hired aide who praised Hamas’ “spirit of resistance“.

Accepted £20,000 for state TV channel of terror-sponsoring Iranian regime.

Opposed banning Britons from travelling to Syria to fight for ISIS.

Defended rights of fighters returning from Syria.

Said ISIS supporters should not be prosecuted.

Compared fighters returning from Syria to Nelson Mandela.

Said the death of Osama Bin Laden was a “tragedy“.

Wouldn’t sanction drone strike to kill ISIS leader.

Voted to allow ISIS fighters to return from Syria.

Opposed shoot to kill.

Attended event organised by terrorist sympathising IHRC.

Signed letter defending Lockerbie bombing suspects.

Wrote letter in support of conman accused of fundraising for ISIS.

Spoke of “friendship” with Mo Kozbar, who called for destruction of Israel.

Attended event with Abdullah Djaballah, who called for holy war against UK.

Called drone strikes against terrorists “obscene”.

Boasted about “opposing anti-terror legislation”.

Said laws banning jihadis from returning to Britain are “strange”.

Accepted £5,000 donation from terror supporter Ted Honderich.

Accepted £2,800 trip to Gaza from banned Islamist organisation Interpal.

Called Ibrahim Hewitt, extremist and chair of Interpal, a “very good friend”.

Accepted two more trips from the pro-Hamas group PRC.

Speaker at conference hosted by pro-Hamas group MEMO.

Met Hamas leader Ismail Haniyeh several times.

Hosted meeting with Mousa Abu Maria of banned group Islamic Jihad.

Patron of Palestine Solidarity Campaign – marches attended by Hezbollah.

Compared Israel to ISIS, Hamas, Hezbollah and al-Qaeda.

Said we should not make “value judgements” about Britons who fight for ISIS.

Received endorsement from Hamas.

Attended event with Islamic extremist Suliman Gani.

Chaired Stop the War, who praised “internationalism and solidarity” of ISIS.

Praised Raed Salah, who was jailed for inciting violence in Israel.

Signed letter defending jihadist advocacy group Cage.

Met Dyab Jahjah, who praised the killing of British soldiers.

Shared platform with representative of extremist cleric Muqtada al-Sadr.

Compared ISIS to US military in interview on Russia Today.

Opposed proscription of Hizb ut-Tahrir.

Attended conference which called on Iraqis to kill British soldiers.

Attended Al-Quds Day demonstration in support of destruction of Israel.

Supported Hamas and ISIS-linked Viva Palestina group.

Attended protest with Islamic extremist Moazzam Begg.

Made the “case for Iran” at event hosted by Khomeinist group.

Photographed smiling with Azzam Tamimi, who backed suicide bombings.

Photographed with Abdel Atwan, who sympathised with attacks on US troops.

Said Hamas should “have tea with the Queen”.

Attended ‘Meet the Resistance’ event with Hezbollah MP Hussein El Haj.

Attended event with Haifa Zangana, who praised Palestinian “mujahideen”.

Defended the infamous anti-Semitic Hamas supporter Stephen Sizer.

Attended event with pro-Hamas and Hezbollah group Naturei Karta.

Backed Holocaust denying anti-Zionist extremist Paul Eisen.

Photographed with Abdul Raoof Al Shayeb, later jailed for terror offences.

Mocked “anti-terror hysteria” while opposing powers for security services.

Named on speakers list for conference with Hamas sympathiser Ismail Patel.

Criticised drone strike that killed Jihadi John.

Said the 7/7 bombers had been denied “hope and opportunity”.

Said 9/11 was “manipulated” to make it look like bin Laden was responsible.

Failed to unequivocally condemn the 9/11 attacks.

Called Columbian terror group M-19 “comrades”.

Blamed beheading of Alan Henning on Britain.

Gave speech in support of Gaddafi regime.

Signed EDM spinning for Slobodan Milosevic.

Blamed Tunisia terror attack on “austerity”.

Voted against banning support for the IRA.

Voted against the Prevention of Terrorism Act three times during the Troubles.

Voted against emergency counter-terror laws after 9/11.

Voted against stricter punishments for being a member of a terror group.

Voted against criminalising the encouragement of terrorism.

Voted against banning al-Qaeda.

Voted against outlawing the glorification of terror.

Voted against control orders.

Voted against increased funding for the security services to combat terrorism.

So it’s a tricky one really."

tricky indeed lol

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By *hatMinxOverThereWoman
over a year ago

42 Wallaby Way

Holy moley.

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By *abioMan
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead

all i have for ya is that this election could truely dictate the course of the country in generations......

all I have decided is that i am going to vote "not tory" and vote tactically....

and see where the chips land...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The funniest part is the list of Johnson's lies would circle the Earth!

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By *ed-monkeyCouple
over a year ago

Hailsham

Hmmm ... I can see your quandary

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

it’s a tough one

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Reading that is great but lets get down to the real issue.

Which one would be the best swinger?

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By *VineMan
over a year ago

The right place


"all i have for ya is that this election could truely dictate the course of the country in generations......

all I have decided is that i am going to vote "not tory" and vote tactically....

and see where the chips land..."

Same here, I’m voting tactically to try and remove our current MP.

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By *m3232Man
over a year ago

maidenhead

Anyone who thinks labour should get in is either a blood sucker lazy arse or just stupid.

Johnson may not be the best but he is the best we currently got.

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By *moothdickMan
over a year ago

stoke


"Reading that is great but lets get down to the real issue.

Which one would be the best swinger?"

Jesus, that’s impossible to answer .. well they r both guys so which one would u swing with

I only want see them swing from a rope lol

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By *hoenixAdAstraWoman
over a year ago

Hiding in the shadows

I'd rather boil my head, than vote for Corbyn

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Just because he’s met with the IRA, doesn’t mean he supports them.

As a Northern Irish Unionist, I’m as much against the IRA as anyone, but I honestly believe Corbyn is a peace maker, not a war maker.

The Tory’s on the other hand, historically, have drummed up so much hatred, they probably extended the troubles by 20 years

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By *ed-monkeyCouple
over a year ago

Hailsham


"Reading that is great but lets get down to the real issue.

Which one would be the best swinger?"

Well... Corbyn may bring Diane along

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"

Johnson may not be the best but he is the best we currently got.

"

Jesus there is a scary thought I miss it when ye were capable of world domination

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Anyone who thinks labour should get in is either a blood sucker lazy arse or just stupid.

Johnson may not be the best but he is the best we currently got.

"

You're just saying that because you're frustrated you can't get any fanny to save your life.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I'd rather boil my head, than vote for Corbyn"

This

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By *hatMinxOverThereWoman
over a year ago

42 Wallaby Way


"Anyone who thinks labour should get in is either a blood sucker lazy arse or just stupid.

Johnson may not be the best but he is the best we currently got.

"

I'm neither a blood sucker or a lazy arse or stupid, actually.

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By *moothdickMan
over a year ago

stoke


"I'd rather boil my head, than vote for Corbyn

This "

It will mess yr hair up

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Reading that is great but lets get down to the real issue.

Which one would be the best swinger?

Well... Corbyn may bring Diane along "

Jesus that a horrifying though where is the needle and thread?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

What a brilliant diatribe OP, must have taken you ages to copy and paste it.

I hope you get your "rascal with the ladies", whom incidentally sits in an office and behaves like an arbitrary medieval king and has no system of administration only whims, whom John Major blocked from becoming a member of the conservative party several times, who lies through his teeth for his own gain. Who burns £50 notes in front of rough sleepers in order to affirm membership of a club.

Who arranges to have an investigative journalist beaten up for giving him bad press. Who beats women... Jesus he makes Thatcher look centrist.

You can stick with your DUP (paramilitary organisation) backed free market fundamentalist Bullingdon boys. I'm voting with my heart. Which means "not tory".

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It doesn't make a great deal of sense to vote for the man who's been at the heart of the government that's brought us to the position we're in now. The police, fire and prison service on their knees, one in three children living below the poverty line, the NHS barely able to function and employment and housing structured to roundly fuck the tenant and employee and protect the wealthy. Yes please. I'd like lots more of the same. It's been a fucking blast.

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By *ed-monkeyCouple
over a year ago

Hailsham

I won't be voting for either ... and they're not standing in my constituency

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Corbyn also trusts 16 year olds to be able to decide who to vote for but they still need protecting from alcohol, pornography, HGV and Bus driving, going to war, and inadvertently becoming ISIS brides...

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By *ed-monkeyCouple
over a year ago

Hailsham


"I won't be voting for either ... and they're not standing in my constituency"

As they're not

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Corbyn also trusts 16 year olds to be able to decide who to vote for but they still need protecting from alcohol, pornography, HGV and Bus driving, going to war, and inadvertently becoming ISIS brides..."

Was that ment to be an anti Corbyn point?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If you fancy a laugh, look a how small the dicks are on all these Tory assholes #complex

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By *ullishMan
over a year ago

Liverpool

Keep your fake news to yourself, you obviously do not live in an area that has been destroyed by the last 10 years of this government of you wouldn't post so much crap!

Johnson is a racist bigot and his voting over the last 10 year has led to over 100,000 deaths. If this is the kind of person you support that tells me all I need to know about you as a person.

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By *arentsgonebadCouple
over a year ago

Sheffield

Johnson

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"What a brilliant diatribe OP, must have taken you ages to copy and paste it.

I hope you get your "rascal with the ladies", whom incidentally sits in an office and behaves like an arbitrary medieval king and has no system of administration only whims, whom John Major blocked from becoming a member of the conservative party several times, who lies through his teeth for his own gain. Who burns £50 notes in front of rough sleepers in order to affirm membership of a club.

Who arranges to have an investigative journalist beaten up for giving him bad press. Who beats women... Jesus he makes Thatcher look centrist.

You can stick with your DUP (paramilitary organisation) backed free market fundamentalist Bullingdon boys. I'm voting with my heart. Which means "not tory".

"

He's that shit, London voted him in as Mayor. Twice.

Red Ken managed 2 terms, one as an Independant, one as Labour. And when Boris stood down, Labour got back in again. Surely no one is stupid enough to re-elect Boris again

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By *adeiteWoman
over a year ago

Stafford

If we want out Johnson is our best shot of getting out regardless of the bullshit, fuckery and lies.

And as for corbyn, I'd rather let someone force a cactus up my hole than vote for him. Ofcourse this is just my opinion. Dont come for me.

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By *reeMan
over a year ago

Paisley


"The funniest part is the list of Johnson's lies would circle the Earth!"

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By *ed-monkeyCouple
over a year ago

Hailsham


"If you fancy a laugh, look a how small the dicks are on all these Tory assholes #complex "

As that's the basis for government

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By *abioMan
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead


"Corbyn also trusts 16 year olds to be able to decide who to vote for but they still need protecting from alcohol, pornography, HGV and Bus driving, going to war, and inadvertently becoming ISIS brides..."

actually it is the policy of all the major parties EXCEPT the conservatives to allow 16 and 17 yr olds to vote....

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By *ullishMan
over a year ago

Liverpool


"If you fancy a laugh, look a how small the dicks are on all these Tory assholes #complex "

These selfish hate fueled bigots probably get hard from thinking about Johnson sagging a pig oink

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Corbyn also trusts 16 year olds to be able to decide who to vote for but they still need protecting from alcohol, pornography, HGV and Bus driving, going to war, and inadvertently becoming ISIS brides...

Was that ment to be an anti Corbyn point?

"

Just an observation. My vote won't swing things in Westminster.

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By *ed-monkeyCouple
over a year ago

Hailsham


"If you fancy a laugh, look a how small the dicks are on all these Tory assholes #complex

As that's the basis for government

...and being a racist, lying misogynistic cunt is???"

Sorry... which one are you taking about there?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

No way corbyn anyone but him

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Corbyn also trusts 16 year olds to be able to decide who to vote for but they still need protecting from alcohol, pornography, HGV and Bus driving, going to war, and inadvertently becoming ISIS brides...

Was that ment to be an anti Corbyn point?

Just an observation. My vote won't swing things in Westminster."

Well every vote is important and all that. I just wasnt sure if protecting 16 year olds from war etc... was ment to be a bad thing?

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By *ullishMan
over a year ago

Liverpool


"Johnson

I wonder what he'd say about you taking black cock?..."

She'll be on the next boat out to the continent

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Both a pair of lying wankers

Vote Boris -kill a cripple

Vote Jezza-bankrupt the country

Vote Swinson -wank over her tits

Job done

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By *alkdirty2meCouple
over a year ago

20 miles south of Edinburgh


"Just because he’s met with the IRA, doesn’t mean he supports them.

As a Northern Irish Unionist, I’m as much against the IRA as anyone, but I honestly believe Corbyn is a peace maker, not a war maker.

The Tory’s on the other hand, historically, have drummed up so much hatred, they probably extended the troubles by 20 years"

This answer is the only answer that deserves to be read on the out and out attack on a politician that has tried to engage to bring peace

I am not a labour fan, wont vote labour or Tory ever

I lived in Belfast during the troubles

I have seen things that will never leave my nightmares

But just like all conflict

Unless someone openly walks out with an olive branch, peace can never ensue

If Corbyn didn’t engage with the ira there would be no ceasefire

There would be more blood shed in NI than in any war the uk has been involved in for decades

I’m glad he did what he did, it takes a vision of peace to have the guts to do that

Where were the Tories when they needed to be the one doing it ???????

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Hmm. For me it's the one that scares me the least. It used to be you voted for the better candidate, now we vote for the least worst. I have known since the election was called who I would vote for and my mind has not changed.

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By *ullishMan
over a year ago

Liverpool


"Just because he’s met with the IRA, doesn’t mean he supports them.

As a Northern Irish Unionist, I’m as much against the IRA as anyone, but I honestly believe Corbyn is a peace maker, not a war maker.

The Tory’s on the other hand, historically, have drummed up so much hatred, they probably extended the troubles by 20 years

This answer is the only answer that deserves to be read on the out and out attack on a politician that has tried to engage to bring peace

I am not a labour fan, wont vote labour or Tory ever

I lived in Belfast during the troubles

I have seen things that will never leave my nightmares

But just like all conflict

Unless someone openly walks out with an olive branch, peace can never ensue

If Corbyn didn’t engage with the ira there would be no ceasefire

There would be more blood shed in NI than in any war the uk has been involved in for decades

I’m glad he did what he did, it takes a vision of peace to have the guts to do that

Where were the Tories when they needed to be the one doing it ???????"

100%. unfortunately for the hate corbyn brigade common sense isn't that common!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Just because he’s met with the IRA, doesn’t mean he supports them.

As a Northern Irish Unionist, I’m as much against the IRA as anyone, but I honestly believe Corbyn is a peace maker, not a war maker.

The Tory’s on the other hand, historically, have drummed up so much hatred, they probably extended the troubles by 20 years

This answer is the only answer that deserves to be read on the out and out attack on a politician that has tried to engage to bring peace

I am not a labour fan, wont vote labour or Tory ever

I lived in Belfast during the troubles

I have seen things that will never leave my nightmares

But just like all conflict

Unless someone openly walks out with an olive branch, peace can never ensue

If Corbyn didn’t engage with the ira there would be no ceasefire

There would be more blood shed in NI than in any war the uk has been involved in for decades

I’m glad he did what he did, it takes a vision of peace to have the guts to do that

Where were the Tories when they needed to be the one doing it ???????"

Being blown up in Brighton?

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By *ichaelangelaCouple
over a year ago

notts


"It doesn't make a great deal of sense to vote for the man who's been at the heart of the government that's brought us to the position we're in now. The police, fire and prison service on their knees, one in three children living below the poverty line, the NHS barely able to function and employment and housing structured to roundly fuck the tenant and employee and protect the wealthy. Yes please. I'd like lots more of the same. It's been a fucking blast. "

And he’s done all of this in the short time he’s been P. M. ??

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By *ullishMan
over a year ago

Liverpool


"Both a pair of lying wankers

Vote Boris -kill a cripple

Vote Jezza-bankrupt the country

Vote Swinson -wank over her tits

Job done "

Bringing the UK in line with France and Germany on investment with bankrupt the country? please explain?

The tories have raised our national debt from 600b to 1.3 trillion! The top 1% have seen a 183% rise in wealth during this time. Our public money is clearly being redistributed to billionaires.

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over a year ago

One thing that beggars belief is poor people voting tory. If you have a million in the bank, you earn more than £100k a year I get it. Makes solid financial sense. But if you earn less than £50k live in and out of your overdraft like the rest of us 99% what are you bloody playing at???

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"It doesn't make a great deal of sense to vote for the man who's been at the heart of the government that's brought us to the position we're in now. The police, fire and prison service on their knees, one in three children living below the poverty line, the NHS barely able to function and employment and housing structured to roundly fuck the tenant and employee and protect the wealthy. Yes please. I'd like lots more of the same. It's been a fucking blast.

And he’s done all of this in the short time he’s been P. M. ??"

That's not what I said, is it. I said he's been on board with the government that's done it.

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By *abioMan
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead


"Johnson

I wonder what he'd say about you taking black cock?..."

I am sure the words "natives" and "piccaninnies" would be in there somewhere.......

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By *os19Man
over a year ago

Edmonton

Corbyn was not expected to become labour leader yet he did.He was not expected to get as many seats at the last election yet he got more than predicted.He also got a lot of 18 - 30 year old to vote at the last election and they majority voted for him.My thoughts on the election are Johnson will get more votes but it will be a hung parliament Johnson will not be able to do a deal with the Liberals or SNP but Corbyn will and he will be our PM.Yes I will be voting Labour

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By *ullishMan
over a year ago

Liverpool


" Where were the Tories when they needed to be the one doing it ???????

Being blown up in Brighton?"

Right there is a measure of a man

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By *elshsunsWoman
over a year ago

Flintshire

Labour all the way ...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Just because he’s met with the IRA, doesn’t mean he supports them.

As a Northern Irish Unionist, I’m as much against the IRA as anyone, but I honestly believe Corbyn is a peace maker, not a war maker.

The Tory’s on the other hand, historically, have drummed up so much hatred, they probably extended the troubles by 20 years

This answer is the only answer that deserves to be read on the out and out attack on a politician that has tried to engage to bring peace

I am not a labour fan, wont vote labour or Tory ever

I lived in Belfast during the troubles

I have seen things that will never leave my nightmares

But just like all conflict

Unless someone openly walks out with an olive branch, peace can never ensue

If Corbyn didn’t engage with the ira there would be no ceasefire

There would be more blood shed in NI than in any war the uk has been involved in for decades

I’m glad he did what he did, it takes a vision of peace to have the guts to do that

Where were the Tories when they needed to be the one doing it ???????

100%. unfortunately for the hate corbyn brigade common sense isn't that common! "

Corbyn engaged only with the IRA though I think. If you were trying to mediate peace would you not speak to both sides? He never spoke to the loyalist paramilitaries or the Northern Irish government as far as I'm aware.

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By *acey_RedWoman
over a year ago

Liverpool


"Anyone who thinks labour should get in is either a blood sucker lazy arse or just stupid.

Johnson may not be the best but he is the best we currently got.

"

I'm both

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Just because he’s met with the IRA, doesn’t mean he supports them.

As a Northern Irish Unionist, I’m as much against the IRA as anyone, but I honestly believe Corbyn is a peace maker, not a war maker.

The Tory’s on the other hand, historically, have drummed up so much hatred, they probably extended the troubles by 20 years

This answer is the only answer that deserves to be read on the out and out attack on a politician that has tried to engage to bring peace

I am not a labour fan, wont vote labour or Tory ever

I lived in Belfast during the troubles

I have seen things that will never leave my nightmares

But just like all conflict

Unless someone openly walks out with an olive branch, peace can never ensue

If Corbyn didn’t engage with the ira there would be no ceasefire

There would be more blood shed in NI than in any war the uk has been involved in for decades

I’m glad he did what he did, it takes a vision of peace to have the guts to do that

Where were the Tories when they needed to be the one doing it ???????

100%. unfortunately for the hate corbyn brigade common sense isn't that common!

Corbyn engaged only with the IRA though I think. If you were trying to mediate peace would you not speak to both sides? He never spoke to the loyalist paramilitaries or the Northern Irish government as far as I'm aware. "

Thats true he didn't but alas you have someone trying to perpetuate a lie that Corbrin brought peace to Ireland and the truth shatters that myth.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Labour are relying on tactical voters. May as well just tick the labour box.

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By *aitonelMan
over a year ago

Liverpool

And here lays the problem with the entire thing, the vast majority voting purely based on a popularity contest between 2 candidates. Nothing more than a reality TV vote.

Some people (on bith sides) will vote based on manifesto, and policies, and changes that will benefit the country. They will vote based on multiple factors.

The rest will be voting because they like a person or not.

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By *xtrafun4youMan
over a year ago

Dunstable

Don’t care who just get out the eu. Mugging bast******

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"And here lays the problem with the entire thing, the vast majority voting purely based on a popularity contest between 2 candidates. Nothing more than a reality TV vote.

Some people (on bith sides) will vote based on manifesto, and policies, and changes that will benefit the country. They will vote based on multiple factors.

The rest will be voting because they like a person or not."

Do you actually believe any of the parties will deliver on their bullshit manifestos?

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over a year ago


"And here lays the problem with the entire thing, the vast majority voting purely based on a popularity contest between 2 candidates. Nothing more than a reality TV vote.

Some people (on bith sides) will vote based on manifesto, and policies, and changes that will benefit the country. They will vote based on multiple factors.

The rest will be voting because they like a person or not."

. I agree. I can’t stand Boris either. I won’t be voting because of the person.

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By *acey_RedWoman
over a year ago

Liverpool


"Just because he’s met with the IRA, doesn’t mean he supports them.

As a Northern Irish Unionist, I’m as much against the IRA as anyone, but I honestly believe Corbyn is a peace maker, not a war maker.

The Tory’s on the other hand, historically, have drummed up so much hatred, they probably extended the troubles by 20 years

This answer is the only answer that deserves to be read on the out and out attack on a politician that has tried to engage to bring peace

I am not a labour fan, wont vote labour or Tory ever

I lived in Belfast during the troubles

I have seen things that will never leave my nightmares

But just like all conflict

Unless someone openly walks out with an olive branch, peace can never ensue

If Corbyn didn’t engage with the ira there would be no ceasefire

There would be more blood shed in NI than in any war the uk has been involved in for decades

I’m glad he did what he did, it takes a vision of peace to have the guts to do that

Where were the Tories when they needed to be the one doing it ???????"

Exactly. And it might all be undone if we end up fucking up the Irish border issue!

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By *ullishMan
over a year ago

Liverpool


"Anyone who thinks labour should get in is either a blood sucker lazy arse or just stupid.

Johnson may not be the best but he is the best we currently got.

"

I graft my arse off mate and always have, so I must be stupid in your opinion!

Lucky I don't really value your opinion isn't it

I will sleep well at night knowing I've voted to help my family and others who have been badly effected by this shambles of a government

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By *aitonelMan
over a year ago

Liverpool


"Don’t care who just get out the eu. Mugging bast******"

And yet another issue. Regardless of leaving the EU or not, what's the point of leaving it if you don't care how things are handled once we are out? Some people really need to start thinking long term.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Boris is not really a liar!

The biggest problem is that he made many statements about Brexit and it was Parliament (i.e. Labour) who prevented him from carrying out those statements.

The media are also very good at misconstruing what he actually says!

To my mind, this is a "Brexit" election, if you want democracy then there can only be one party to vote for and that is the Conservatives!

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By *hubaysiWoman
over a year ago

Leeds


"I'm still a bit undecided about my vote direction this coming Thursday.

I've obviously taken into consideration what I consider to be the following swaying points on the two main parties.

On the one hand the Conservative Boris Johnson is a bit of a rascal with the ladies and can sometimes bend the truth a bit, he’s also a bit posh.

And on the other hand..

Labours Jeremy Corbyn Invited two IRA members to parliament two weeks after the Brighton bombing.

Attended Bloody Sunday commemoration with bomber Brendan McKenna.

Attended meeting with Provisional IRA member Raymond McCartney.

Hosted IRA linked Mitchell McLaughlin in parliament.

Spoke alongside IRA terrorist Martina Anderson.

Attended Sinn Fein dinner with IRA bomber Gerry Kelly.

Chaired Irish republican event with IRA bomber Brendan MacFarlane.

Attended Bobby Sands commemoration honouring IRA terrorists.

Stood in minute’s silence for IRA gunmen shot dead by the SAS.

Refused to condemn the IRA in Sky News interview.

Refused to condemn the IRA on Question Time.

Refused to condemn IRA violence in BBC radio interview.

Signed EDM after IRA Poppy massacre massacre blaming Britain for the deaths.

Arrested while protesting in support of Brighton bomber’s co-defendants.

Lobbied government to improve visiting conditions for IRA killers.

Attended Irish republican event calling for armed conflict against Britain.

Hired suspected IRA man Ronan Bennett as a parliamentary assistant.

Hired another aide closely linked to several convicted IRA terrorists.

Heavily involved with IRA sympathising newspaper London Labour Briefing.

Put up £20,000 bail money for IRA terror suspect Roisin McAliskey.

Didn’t support IRA ceasefire.

Said Hamas and Hezbollah are his “friends“.

Called for Hamas to be removed from terror banned list.

Called Hamas “serious and hard-working“.

Attended wreath-laying at grave of Munich massacre terrorist.

Attended conference with Hamas and PFLP.

Photographed smiling with Hezbollah flag.

Attended rally with Hezbollah and Al-Muhajiroun.

Repeatedly shared platforms with PFLP plane hijacker.

Hired aide who praised Hamas’ “spirit of resistance“.

Accepted £20,000 for state TV channel of terror-sponsoring Iranian regime.

Opposed banning Britons from travelling to Syria to fight for ISIS.

Defended rights of fighters returning from Syria.

Said ISIS supporters should not be prosecuted.

Compared fighters returning from Syria to Nelson Mandela.

Said the death of Osama Bin Laden was a “tragedy“.

Wouldn’t sanction drone strike to kill ISIS leader.

Voted to allow ISIS fighters to return from Syria.

Opposed shoot to kill.

Attended event organised by terrorist sympathising IHRC.

Signed letter defending Lockerbie bombing suspects.

Wrote letter in support of conman accused of fundraising for ISIS.

Spoke of “friendship” with Mo Kozbar, who called for destruction of Israel.

Attended event with Abdullah Djaballah, who called for holy war against UK.

Called drone strikes against terrorists “obscene”.

Boasted about “opposing anti-terror legislation”.

Said laws banning jihadis from returning to Britain are “strange”.

Accepted £5,000 donation from terror supporter Ted Honderich.

Accepted £2,800 trip to Gaza from banned Islamist organisation Interpal.

Called Ibrahim Hewitt, extremist and chair of Interpal, a “very good friend”.

Accepted two more trips from the pro-Hamas group PRC.

Speaker at conference hosted by pro-Hamas group MEMO.

Met Hamas leader Ismail Haniyeh several times.

Hosted meeting with Mousa Abu Maria of banned group Islamic Jihad.

Patron of Palestine Solidarity Campaign – marches attended by Hezbollah.

Compared Israel to ISIS, Hamas, Hezbollah and al-Qaeda.

Said we should not make “value judgements” about Britons who fight for ISIS.

Received endorsement from Hamas.

Attended event with Islamic extremist Suliman Gani.

Chaired Stop the War, who praised “internationalism and solidarity” of ISIS.

Praised Raed Salah, who was jailed for inciting violence in Israel.

Signed letter defending jihadist advocacy group Cage.

Met Dyab Jahjah, who praised the killing of British soldiers.

Shared platform with representative of extremist cleric Muqtada al-Sadr.

Compared ISIS to US military in interview on Russia Today.

Opposed proscription of Hizb ut-Tahrir.

Attended conference which called on Iraqis to kill British soldiers.

Attended Al-Quds Day demonstration in support of destruction of Israel.

Supported Hamas and ISIS-linked Viva Palestina group.

Attended protest with Islamic extremist Moazzam Begg.

Made the “case for Iran” at event hosted by Khomeinist group.

Photographed smiling with Azzam Tamimi, who backed suicide bombings.

Photographed with Abdel Atwan, who sympathised with attacks on US troops.

Said Hamas should “have tea with the Queen”.

Attended ‘Meet the Resistance’ event with Hezbollah MP Hussein El Haj.

Attended event with Haifa Zangana, who praised Palestinian “mujahideen”.

Defended the infamous anti-Semitic Hamas supporter Stephen Sizer.

Attended event with pro-Hamas and Hezbollah group Naturei Karta.

Backed Holocaust denying anti-Zionist extremist Paul Eisen.

Photographed with Abdul Raoof Al Shayeb, later jailed for terror offences.

Mocked “anti-terror hysteria” while opposing powers for security services.

Named on speakers list for conference with Hamas sympathiser Ismail Patel.

Criticised drone strike that killed Jihadi John.

Said the 7/7 bombers had been denied “hope and opportunity”.

Said 9/11 was “manipulated” to make it look like bin Laden was responsible.

Failed to unequivocally condemn the 9/11 attacks.

Called Columbian terror group M-19 “comrades”.

Blamed beheading of Alan Henning on Britain.

Gave speech in support of Gaddafi regime.

Signed EDM spinning for Slobodan Milosevic.

Blamed Tunisia terror attack on “austerity”.

Voted against banning support for the IRA.

Voted against the Prevention of Terrorism Act three times during the Troubles.

Voted against emergency counter-terror laws after 9/11.

Voted against stricter punishments for being a member of a terror group.

Voted against criminalising the encouragement of terrorism.

Voted against banning al-Qaeda.

Voted against outlawing the glorification of terror.

Voted against control orders.

Voted against increased funding for the security services to combat terrorism.

So it’s a tricky one really."

That’s 5 minutes I won’t get back!

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By *acey_RedWoman
over a year ago

Liverpool


"And here lays the problem with the entire thing, the vast majority voting purely based on a popularity contest between 2 candidates. Nothing more than a reality TV vote.

Some people (on bith sides) will vote based on manifesto, and policies, and changes that will benefit the country. They will vote based on multiple factors.

The rest will be voting because they like a person or not."

Sadly true.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The funniest part is the list of Johnson's lies would circle the Earth!"

Things like I will suspend parliament so I can get Brexit through?

I will get Brexit with or without a deal on October 31st?

While in reality he didn't actually manage either, he did his utmost to deliver but every time he tried someone would through a spanner in the works.

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over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Boris is not really a liar!

The biggest problem is that he made many statements about Brexit and it was Parliament (i.e. Labour) who prevented him from carrying out those statements.

The media are also very good at misconstruing what he actually says!

To my mind, this is a "Brexit" election, if you want democracy then there can only be one party to vote for and that is the Conservatives!

"

Total bullshit! Boris has been proven to be a liar on many occasions, he was even sacked for lying in the past...

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By *ullishMan
over a year ago

Liverpool


" Thats true he didn't but alas you have someone trying to perpetuate a lie that Corbrin brought peace to Ireland and the truth shatters that myth. "

The truth being what? Corbyn was heavily involved in the peace process, he has been acknowledged from both sides in his effort and contribution. The international world have acknowledged that the peace process has been one of best diplomatic solutions worldwide.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Anyone who thinks labour should get in is either a blood sucker lazy arse or just stupid.

Johnson may not be the best but he is the best we currently got.

I graft my arse off mate and always have, so I must be stupid in your opinion!

Lucky I don't really value your opinion isn't it

I will sleep well at night knowing I've voted to help my family and others who have been badly effected by this shambles of a government"

No disrespect whatsoever, but the country is in the mess it is because Labour almost bankrupted us and we are still recovering from that.

Additionally Labour have been blocking the democratic vote of Brexit stagnating Parliament.

Do not blame the Conservatives for what Labour Caused or are causing!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Both a pair of lying wankers

Vote Boris -kill a cripple

Vote Jezza-bankrupt the country

Vote Swinson -wank over her tits

Job done

Bringing the UK in line with France and Germany on investment with bankrupt the country? please explain?

The tories have raised our national debt from 600b to 1.3 trillion! The top 1% have seen a 183% rise in wealth during this time. Our public money is clearly being redistributed to billionaires. "

I have dual nationality and a home in France

I hate the tories with a passion I’m a child of the thatcher era the war on the sick and disabled is a genocide,Labour fuck me I was staunch labour for years I’m a grafter but Jezza no mate he’s a wet lettuce the Jewish thing needed stamping out hard line ! Who’s left no one ,tactical vote Swinson she got nice tits and prey for a hung parliament

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By *aitonelMan
over a year ago

Liverpool


"Boris is not really a liar!

The biggest problem is that he made many statements about Brexit and it was Parliament (i.e. Labour) who prevented him from carrying out those statements.

The media are also very good at misconstruing what he actually says!

To my mind, this is a "Brexit" election, if you want democracy then there can only be one party to vote for and that is the Conservatives!

"

While I'm not pro or anti any one single party.

You surely aren't nieve and gullible enough to think they are playing the Brexit card for the good of the country? They are playing it because they know it is their ONLY way they will get a large number of votes and to stay in power for their own interests. They don't give a fuck about Brexit, they have things in place that will see themselves benefit regardless of how the endgame of Brexit goes. But to them Brexit is nothing more than a manipulation tool to get people to forget about all the other shit they can pull off, so long as brexit happens.

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By *ullishMan
over a year ago

Liverpool


"Boris is not really a liar!

The biggest problem is that he made many statements about Brexit and it was Parliament (i.e. Labour) who prevented him from carrying out those statements.

The media are also very good at misconstruing what he actually says!

To my mind, this is a "Brexit" election, if you want democracy then there can only be one party to vote for and that is the Conservatives!

"

Tell that to Northern Ireland #facepalm #deluded

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By *acey_RedWoman
over a year ago

Liverpool


"The funniest part is the list of Johnson's lies would circle the Earth!

Things like I will suspend parliament so I can get Brexit through?

I will get Brexit with or without a deal on October 31st?

While in reality he didn't actually manage either, he did his utmost to deliver but every time he tried someone would through a spanner in the works."

He was never willing to leave without a deal. He's just playing a sick game of poker face with the EU to try to get what he wants.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'm a classic floating voter. I try always to look at all the issues, read the manifestos (without naively thinking they'll actually follow them), look at the big picture about the UK's place in the world. This time around, though, I'm voting tactically to do my little bit to help keep that lying, self-serving, cheating bastard Johnson, and his equally feckless crew, out of number 10.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


" Thats true he didn't but alas you have someone trying to perpetuate a lie that Corbrin brought peace to Ireland and the truth shatters that myth.

The truth being what? Corbyn was heavily involved in the peace process, he has been acknowledged from both sides in his effort and contribution. The international world have acknowledged that the peace process has been one of best diplomatic solutions worldwide. "

What pure drivel all he did was suck IRA cock lets be honest.

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By *illyDudeMan
over a year ago

norh east


"Anyone who thinks labour should get in is either a blood sucker lazy arse or just stupid.

Johnson may not be the best but he is the best we currently got.

I graft my arse off mate and always have, so I must be stupid in your opinion!

Lucky I don't really value your opinion isn't it

I will sleep well at night knowing I've voted to help my family and others who have been badly effected by this shambles of a government

No disrespect whatsoever, but the country is in the mess it is because Labour almost bankrupted us and we are still recovering from that.

Additionally Labour have been blocking the democratic vote of Brexit stagnating Parliament.

Do not blame the Conservatives for what Labour Caused or are causing! "

To be fair were in the mess because of spending after the second world war (which we are still paying for to this day) and 80s bankers. It's not all the last governments fault. We're in this mess because of a string of govemrnt failer. You either vote for Boris the other wetlettice or Corbin the other. It's a shot choice. But that's politics

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By *uysx2 OP   Couple (MM)
over a year ago

Birmingham

Labour a bunch of rich people convincing poor people to vote for rich people by telling poor people that 'other' rich people are the reason they're poor.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Give us a party where the mps ain’t full of shit they represent the majority and are not swung one way or the other and actually represent the people that vote for them !

The uk governing system is in complete breakdown

Never before has it ever wanted complete overhaul

We are a laughing stock !

And it will continue !

Brexit pfffffft there is no winners ,Europe will suffer we will suffer ,it’s all a smoke screen for a failing system !

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"What a brilliant diatribe OP, must have taken you ages to copy and paste it.

I hope you get your "rascal with the ladies", whom incidentally sits in an office and behaves like an arbitrary medieval king and has no system of administration only whims, whom John Major blocked from becoming a member of the conservative party several times, who lies through his teeth for his own gain. Who burns £50 notes in front of rough sleepers in order to affirm membership of a club.

Who arranges to have an investigative journalist beaten up for giving him bad press. Who beats women... Jesus he makes Thatcher look centrist.

You can stick with your DUP (paramilitary organisation) backed free market fundamentalist Bullingdon boys. I'm voting with my heart. Which means "not tory".

"

Thank you. This brought me a little bit of faith, having seen this thread.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Anyone who thinks labour should get in is either a blood sucker lazy arse or just stupid.

Johnson may not be the best but he is the best we currently got.

I graft my arse off mate and always have, so I must be stupid in your opinion!

Lucky I don't really value your opinion isn't it

I will sleep well at night knowing I've voted to help my family and others who have been badly effected by this shambles of a government

No disrespect whatsoever, but the country is in the mess it is because Labour almost bankrupted us and we are still recovering from that.

Additionally Labour have been blocking the democratic vote of Brexit stagnating Parliament.

Do not blame the Conservatives for what Labour Caused or are causing!

To be fair were in the mess because of spending after the second world war (which we are still paying for to this day) and 80s bankers. It's not all the last governments fault. We're in this mess because of a string of govemrnt failer. You either vote for Boris the other wetlettice or Corbin the other. It's a shot choice. But that's politics"

This

Abd the Americans smashing out massive bank rolls after ww2 that actually created the euro zone all by the Rothschilds so the USA had an entity to trade against

Nothing lasts forever!

It ain’t looking good !

End of !

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Labour a bunch of rich people convincing poor people to vote for rich people by telling poor people that 'other' rich people are the reason they're poor.

You are blindingly stupid."

Actually he is not Corbin is a millionaire FACT. I think you are labelling yourself there.

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By *acey_RedWoman
over a year ago

Liverpool


"Anyone who thinks labour should get in is either a blood sucker lazy arse or just stupid.

Johnson may not be the best but he is the best we currently got.

I graft my arse off mate and always have, so I must be stupid in your opinion!

Lucky I don't really value your opinion isn't it

I will sleep well at night knowing I've voted to help my family and others who have been badly effected by this shambles of a government

No disrespect whatsoever, but the country is in the mess it is because Labour almost bankrupted us and we are still recovering from that.

Additionally Labour have been blocking the democratic vote of Brexit stagnating Parliament.

Do not blame the Conservatives for what Labour Caused or are causing! "

Labour didn't bankrupt the country. We were in surplus until the global financial crisis. We're also in a shit load more debt now than we were then.

Labour are the minority. All of labour could vote against something but if all the conservatives and the DUP voted in favour of it, it would be passed. That was the point of forming a majority government. The conservatives have also blocked the deals being passed including Boris Johnson when they voted on May's deal which was basically the same as his with the only small differences in most people's opinion actually being better than his deal.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Boris is not really a liar!

The biggest problem is that he made many statements about Brexit and it was Parliament (i.e. Labour) who prevented him from carrying out those statements.

The media are also very good at misconstruing what he actually says!

To my mind, this is a "Brexit" election, if you want democracy then there can only be one party to vote for and that is the Conservatives!

While I'm not pro or anti any one single party.

You surely aren't nieve and gullible enough to think they are playing the Brexit card for the good of the country? They are playing it because they know it is their ONLY way they will get a large number of votes and to stay in power for their own interests. They don't give a fuck about Brexit, they have things in place that will see themselves benefit regardless of how the endgame of Brexit goes. But to them Brexit is nothing more than a manipulation tool to get people to forget about all the other shit they can pull off, so long as brexit happens. "

No other shit has happened because Parliament is hung and Labour have been blocking Brexit for nearly 3 years!

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By *istretchMan
over a year ago

leeds

Can someone explain that by taxing the billionaire and the big corporations ( who pay as much as they can lawfully get away with ) corbin can afford his manifesto.

4 day week, free prescription, buying the railways and maintenance, womens pensions ect .plus the nhs money .

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I’ve followed austerity

I’ve read the stories dwp reform and the suicides

I’ve seen the poverty

I’m ashamed of what the UK has become

I’ve seen a disabled young lady who can’t walk have her mobility car removed her benefits cut and have to leave uni

Vote Tory

Would I fucking bollox !

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By *acey_RedWoman
over a year ago

Liverpool


"Boris is not really a liar!

The biggest problem is that he made many statements about Brexit and it was Parliament (i.e. Labour) who prevented him from carrying out those statements.

The media are also very good at misconstruing what he actually says!

To my mind, this is a "Brexit" election, if you want democracy then there can only be one party to vote for and that is the Conservatives!

While I'm not pro or anti any one single party.

You surely aren't nieve and gullible enough to think they are playing the Brexit card for the good of the country? They are playing it because they know it is their ONLY way they will get a large number of votes and to stay in power for their own interests. They don't give a fuck about Brexit, they have things in place that will see themselves benefit regardless of how the endgame of Brexit goes. But to them Brexit is nothing more than a manipulation tool to get people to forget about all the other shit they can pull off, so long as brexit happens. "

Also a way for them to avoid tax avoidance regulations.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


" Labour didn't bankrupt the country. We were in surplus until the global financial crisis. We're also in a shit load more debt now than we were then.

Labour are the minority. All of labour could vote against something but if all the conservatives and the DUP voted in favour of it, it would be passed. That was the point of forming a majority government. The conservatives have also blocked the deals being passed including Boris Johnson when they voted on May's deal which was basically the same as his with the only small differences in most people's opinion actually being better than his deal."

You are forgetting the note left by the Labour Chancellor - "There is no money left" - and guess what, he was right

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By *ullishMan
over a year ago

Liverpool


" No disrespect whatsoever, but the country is in the mess it is because Labour almost bankrupted us and we are still recovering from that.

Additionally Labour have been blocking the democratic vote of Brexit stagnating Parliament.

Do not blame the Conservatives for what Labour Caused or are causing! "

No disrespect but Labour did not cause the financial crisis, that blame squarely falls on greedy bankers and mismanagement of regulation from both main parties. If Labour left power nearly bankrupt at 600 billion in debt what is your excuse for now being 1.3 trillion in debt. At least public services was a lot better funded by Labour. The tories have nearly tripled the debt, destroyed front line services, raised poverty and broke communities!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I think all parties are the same

Riddled with failings

Full of bullshit

And we the public are the fucking pawns in the system

None of them are living our lives

They are all in their ivory towers looking down on us

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By *acey_RedWoman
over a year ago

Liverpool


"I’ve followed austerity

I’ve read the stories dwp reform and the suicides

I’ve seen the poverty

I’m ashamed of what the UK has become

I’ve seen a disabled young lady who can’t walk have her mobility car removed her benefits cut and have to leave uni

Vote Tory

Would I fucking bollox ! "

This. It's shameful what this country has become really.

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By *aitonelMan
over a year ago

Liverpool


"Boris is not really a liar!

The biggest problem is that he made many statements about Brexit and it was Parliament (i.e. Labour) who prevented him from carrying out those statements.

The media are also very good at misconstruing what he actually says!

To my mind, this is a "Brexit" election, if you want democracy then there can only be one party to vote for and that is the Conservatives!

While I'm not pro or anti any one single party.

You surely aren't nieve and gullible enough to think they are playing the Brexit card for the good of the country? They are playing it because they know it is their ONLY way they will get a large number of votes and to stay in power for their own interests. They don't give a fuck about Brexit, they have things in place that will see themselves benefit regardless of how the endgame of Brexit goes. But to them Brexit is nothing more than a manipulation tool to get people to forget about all the other shit they can pull off, so long as brexit happens.

No other shit has happened because Parliament is hung and Labour have been blocking Brexit for nearly 3 years!

"

Going forward! They have caused enough shit well before Brexit was a thing. They plan to cause a lot more shit going forward if they remain in power. But you are sucked in by it because they will "deliver Brexit". Their entire campaign is based around that one single thing, with a sprinkle of Corbyn hate on top. And it is clearly working because people are drinking the Kool-aid.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I run a restaraunt in the west end

We open for three hours on a Monday to feed the fucking homeless

These people are destitute

End of

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By *acey_RedWoman
over a year ago

Liverpool


" Labour didn't bankrupt the country. We were in surplus until the global financial crisis. We're also in a shit load more debt now than we were then.

Labour are the minority. All of labour could vote against something but if all the conservatives and the DUP voted in favour of it, it would be passed. That was the point of forming a majority government. The conservatives have also blocked the deals being passed including Boris Johnson when they voted on May's deal which was basically the same as his with the only small differences in most people's opinion actually being better than his deal.

You are forgetting the note left by the Labour Chancellor - "There is no money left" - and guess what, he was right "

It was an attempt to make light of a shit situation. Unfortunately the conservative are devoid of any sense of humour. The note never claimed responsibility for it did it?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The news channels block what’s really going on in our towns and cities

I have a home in France

The French stick together

The whole country strikes in solidarity bringing the govt to its knees

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The news channels block what’s really going on in our towns and cities

I have a home in France

The French stick together

The whole country strikes in solidarity bringing the govt to its knees "

No they don't there are more riots, hatred racist abuse and poverty in France than there is in the UK by far.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

There’s a coming court case up the dwp for the suicides of disabled claimants

I hope the ministers Rot in jail

The care system has failed ,these people cannot work they do not have the right to treat them like shit

The uk sign a un agreement on disabled rights then don’t abide by it

The un investigation on the atrocities condem the uk govt and the govt tell them to piss off

Last political party to target the disabled in Western Europe was the Nazis just after they triggered the holocaust

Is this what we have become

A nation of blame for someone being sick or disabled

Makes me sick to the core

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The news channels block what’s really going on in our towns and cities

I have a home in France

The French stick together

The whole country strikes in solidarity bringing the govt to its knees

No they don't there are more riots, hatred racist abuse and poverty in France than there is in the UK by far."

I live there 6 months of the year

I think I have a better insight than you

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I am going to be voting for labour

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By *acey_RedWoman
over a year ago

Liverpool


"The news channels block what’s really going on in our towns and cities

I have a home in France

The French stick together

The whole country strikes in solidarity bringing the govt to its knees

No they don't there are more riots, hatred racist abuse and poverty in France than there is in the UK by far.

I live there 6 months of the year

I think I have a better insight than you "

Don't be silly of course you don't .

Just like nurses don't have a better idea of the state of the NHS and teachers don't have a better idea of the state of our schools. They're all clueless!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Did any of you read the tractor blockades recently I’m Germany and France !

No because it was news blackout

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I'm very intrigued to know why this thread hasn't been moved to the politics section by now and why the OP doesn't attempt to defend his position.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The news channels block what’s really going on in our towns and cities

I have a home in France

The French stick together

The whole country strikes in solidarity bringing the govt to its knees

No they don't there are more riots, hatred racist abuse and poverty in France than there is in the UK by far.

I live there 6 months of the year

I think I have a better insight than you "

Sit on it not speak out if it sweetie you haven't a clue how much time or what knowledge I have of life there. France is such a wonderful place they let hundreds or thousands of immigrants camp out in disgusting conditions the racial abuse in France is diabolical its a dog eat dog society there and thats the truth.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The news channels block what’s really going on in our towns and cities

I have a home in France

The French stick together

The whole country strikes in solidarity bringing the govt to its knees

No they don't there are more riots, hatred racist abuse and poverty in France than there is in the UK by far.

I live there 6 months of the year

I think I have a better insight than you

Don't be silly of course you don't .

Just like nurses don't have a better idea of the state of the NHS and teachers don't have a better idea of the state of our schools. They're all clueless!"

No Boris has saved the nhs don’t be silly that’s why I’m seeing a child being treated on the floor it’s the new system don’t you know

Our schools no no Boris has saved them too that’s why many on a 4 day week !!!!

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By *L RogueMan
over a year ago

London

The Windrush Scandal...Grenfell...Universal Credit.

Three of many reasons I will NOT be voting Conservative. Never have, never will.

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By *m3232Man
over a year ago

maidenhead


"Corbyn also trusts 16 year olds to be able to decide who to vote for but they still need protecting from alcohol, pornography, HGV and Bus driving, going to war, and inadvertently becoming ISIS brides...

actually it is the policy of all the major parties EXCEPT the conservatives to allow 16 and 17 yr olds to vote....

"

16y old don’t know shit but I am sure they will like free broadband lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Ugh! I wish people were sharp enough to do their own research!

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By *hMyGawdCouple
over a year ago

Midlands

Both Tory.

We need less tax, less handouts, less public services. More personal responsibility.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The news channels block what’s really going on in our towns and cities

I have a home in France

The French stick together

The whole country strikes in solidarity bringing the govt to its knees

No they don't there are more riots, hatred racist abuse and poverty in France than there is in the UK by far.

I live there 6 months of the year

I think I have a better insight than you

Sit on it not speak out if it sweetie you haven't a clue how much time or what knowledge I have of life there. France is such a wonderful place they let hundreds or thousands of immigrants camp out in disgusting conditions the racial abuse in France is diabolical its a dog eat dog society there and thats the truth."

France historically is a socialist society

They don’t like change

They don’t like outsiders

They don’t like anyone fucking around with there culture or way of life

France has made diabolical mistakes with ghettos and colonial migration back to its own shores

The new generation French are more understanding the old beliefs are dying out

They even talk to me and I’m English !!

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By *acey_RedWoman
over a year ago

Liverpool


"The news channels block what’s really going on in our towns and cities

I have a home in France

The French stick together

The whole country strikes in solidarity bringing the govt to its knees

No they don't there are more riots, hatred racist abuse and poverty in France than there is in the UK by far.

I live there 6 months of the year

I think I have a better insight than you

Don't be silly of course you don't .

Just like nurses don't have a better idea of the state of the NHS and teachers don't have a better idea of the state of our schools. They're all clueless!

No Boris has saved the nhs don’t be silly that’s why I’m seeing a child being treated on the floor it’s the new system don’t you know

Our schools no no Boris has saved them too that’s why many on a 4 day week !!!!"

Exactly!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Both Tory.

We need less tax, less handouts, less public services. More personal responsibility."

That won't help the vulnerable or at risk in society though.

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By *ackdd72Man
over a year ago

the valleys

Who ever wins people won't be happy but if labour wins it's pretty obvious there will be a second referendum on Brexit because of the remoaners now imagine an mp who is a remainer loses their seat will they argue that the incoming mp is not the best thing for the future of the constituency and stay in their seat or will they accept that a democratic vote has taken place and LEAVE as the vote dictates or imagine the UK population that voted to leave in the referendum not being happy with the election result and demanding a second general election to get the result they want

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The camps in France are a simple economic migration problem

Those that seek a life in the uk as it’s more lenient and in their eyes more prosperous

They travel thousands of miles to come to the uk for one reason only

They do not claim asylum in the first safe zone

And I’m not getting into that debate

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Both Tory.

We need less tax, less handouts, less public services. More personal responsibility.

That won't help the vulnerable or at risk in society though. "

Exactly this well said

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By *apmanMan
over a year ago

Headingley

This is far bigger than a choice between two men who have both consistently shown poor judgment. They will be replaced in time. For me, it is which side I think will rebuild the social fabric of the country without bankrupting it. And so far I don't trust any of them.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Anyone who thinks labour should get in is either a blood sucker lazy arse or just stupid.

Johnson may not be the best but he is the best we currently got.

"

I am voting Labour, Im not a blood sucker or a lazy arse and that statement is a sweeping generalisation and if someone thinks that Johnson is a better prospect then they are “just stupid!”

Juliana.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The camps in France are a simple economic migration problem

Those that seek a life in the uk as it’s more lenient and in their eyes more prosperous

They travel thousands of miles to come to the uk for one reason only

They do not claim asylum in the first safe zone

And I’m not getting into that debate "

If France was so bloody good they would seek asylum there but the hatred and abuse and racism from the French have them going to desperate measures to leave France! I really don't think you have a clue how bad it is there all that pot washing is blurring your vision.

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By *ullishMan
over a year ago

Liverpool


"Both Tory.

We need less tax, less handouts, less public services. More personal responsibility."

WoW I'd love to live where you live! Less public services! I'm sure you'd love more grammar schools and bring back factory workshops

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

We set up a fund raising page last month

Young English lad had a brain trauma was pronounced brain dead they switched the machines off he survived

He’s currently in an old age persons care home he’s 27 !!!!

No funding no electric wheelchair left in their to rot !!!!

This is the uk dream on independent living

Is it fuck !

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The camps in France are a simple economic migration problem

Those that seek a life in the uk as it’s more lenient and in their eyes more prosperous

They travel thousands of miles to come to the uk for one reason only

They do not claim asylum in the first safe zone

And I’m not getting into that debate

If France was so bloody good they would seek asylum there but the hatred and abuse and racism from the French have them going to desperate measures to leave France! I really don't think you have a clue how bad it is there all that pot washing is blurring your vision. "

No I have kps washing pots from the Philippines

They travel not only through France I’ll leave it there

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The camps in France are a simple economic migration problem

Those that seek a life in the uk as it’s more lenient and in their eyes more prosperous

They travel thousands of miles to come to the uk for one reason only

They do not claim asylum in the first safe zone

And I’m not getting into that debate

If France was so bloody good they would seek asylum there but the hatred and abuse and racism from the French have them going to desperate measures to leave France! I really don't think you have a clue how bad it is there all that pot washing is blurring your vision.

No I have kps washing pots from the Philippines

They travel not only through France I’ll leave it there "

There more holes in your back story than a colander you should have prepared better.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"The camps in France are a simple economic migration problem

Those that seek a life in the uk as it’s more lenient and in their eyes more prosperous

They travel thousands of miles to come to the uk for one reason only

They do not claim asylum in the first safe zone

And I’m not getting into that debate

If France was so bloody good they would seek asylum there but the hatred and abuse and racism from the French have them going to desperate measures to leave France! I really don't think you have a clue how bad it is there all that pot washing is blurring your vision.

No I have kps washing pots from the Philippines

They travel not only through France I’ll leave it there

There more holes in your back story than a colander you should have prepared better. "

No not really we should do it over lunch I love a good debate lol x

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By *arentsgonebadCouple
over a year ago

Sheffield


"Johnson

I wonder what he'd say about you taking black cock?..."

What ? Lol ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Both Tory.

We need less tax, less handouts, less public services. More personal responsibility.

WoW I'd love to live where you live! Less public services! I'm sure you'd love more grammar schools and bring back factory workshops "

Must be Barnet lol the Tory flagship borough just about to go bust and riddled with fraud lol

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By *ny1localMan
over a year ago

READING


"Boris is not really a liar!

The biggest problem is that he made many statements about Brexit and it was Parliament (i.e. Labour) who prevented him from carrying out those statements.

The media are also very good at misconstruing what he actually says!

To my mind, this is a "Brexit" election, if you want democracy then there can only be one party to vote for and that is the Conservatives!

"
I think you'll find the queen and our highest court in the land would disagree with you.

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By *ugby 123Couple
Forum Mod
over a year ago

O o O oo

Keep it civil please

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

So the two main parties are a complete joke we can only hope for a hung parliament and some sort of coalition to save our arses !

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By *ed-monkeyCouple
over a year ago

Hailsham


"So the two main parties are a complete joke we can only hope for a hung parliament and some sort of coalition to save our arses ! "

But will it?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Boris is not really a liar!

The biggest problem is that he made many statements about Brexit and it was Parliament (i.e. Labour) who prevented him from carrying out those statements.

The media are also very good at misconstruing what he actually says!

To my mind, this is a "Brexit" election, if you want democracy then there can only be one party to vote for and that is the Conservatives!

I think you'll find the queen and our highest court in the land would disagree with you. "

I was reading somewhere yesterday probably the guardian in the small print Boris is trying to change the law to absolve himself on some process

Correct me if I’m wrong

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over a year ago

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"So the two main parties are a complete joke we can only hope for a hung parliament and some sort of coalition to save our arses !

But will it?"

God knows we will have to wait until Friday

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Did someone say Nigel lool

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Both Tory.

We need less tax, less handouts, less public services. More personal responsibility.

That won't help the vulnerable or at risk in society though. "

Exactly. They need to be left to to starve and die so that rich people can have more money than they need. The great thing is they can't fight back.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Already voted with a postal vote.

Won’t matter though with all the labour supporting kids voting from their home address and their uni address.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I have voted labour all my life not this time

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Both Tory.

We need less tax, less handouts, less public services. More personal responsibility.

That won't help the vulnerable or at risk in society though.

Exactly. They need to be left to to starve and die so that rich people can have more money than they need. The great thing is they can't fight back. "

Yup they made sure they picked the most vulnerable and took away any chance of legal help

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Both Tory.

We need less tax, less handouts, less public services. More personal responsibility.

That won't help the vulnerable or at risk in society though.

Exactly. They need to be left to to starve and die so that rich people can have more money than they need. The great thing is they can't fight back.

Yup they made sure they picked the most vulnerable and took away any chance of legal help "

Greed is what has brought us to the shameful state we're in now. Pure, selfish greed.

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By *L RogueMan
over a year ago

London


"Both Tory.

We need less tax, less handouts, less public services. More personal responsibility.

That won't help the vulnerable or at risk in society though.

Exactly. They need to be left to to starve and die so that rich people can have more money than they need. The great thing is they can't fight back.

Yup they made sure they picked the most vulnerable and took away any chance of legal help

Greed is what has brought us to the shameful state we're in now. Pure, selfish greed. "

This.

People talk a good game about helping others but actions speak louder than words.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

And the politicians rely on the public’s generosity to bail out their failings !

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By *ishful ShenanigansMan
over a year ago

NW


"Both Tory.

We need less tax, less handouts, less public services. More personal responsibility.

That won't help the vulnerable or at risk in society though.

Exactly. They need to be left to to starve and die so that rich people can have more money than they need. The great thing is they can't fight back.

Yup they made sure they picked the most vulnerable and took away any chance of legal help

Greed is what has brought us to the shameful state we're in now. Pure, selfish greed.

This.

People talk a good game about helping others but actions speak louder than words."

That top statement just about sums up why we’re in the mess we’re in!!

Thatchers legacy lives on!!

I dispair!!

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By *hropmMan
over a year ago

shrewsbury

None of them could lie straight in bed

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By *ed-monkeyCouple
over a year ago

Hailsham


"None of them could lie straight in bed "

Fab straight?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Both Tory.

We need less tax, less handouts, less public services. More personal responsibility.

That won't help the vulnerable or at risk in society though.

Exactly. They need to be left to to starve and die so that rich people can have more money than they need. The great thing is they can't fight back.

Yup they made sure they picked the most vulnerable and took away any chance of legal help

Greed is what has brought us to the shameful state we're in now. Pure, selfish greed.

This.

People talk a good game about helping others but actions speak louder than words.

That top statement just about sums up why we’re in the mess we’re in!!

Thatchers legacy lives on!!

I dispair!!"

Yup bang on

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I work in mental health. The Tories have decimated public services and left the most vulnerable to rot. We're one of the richest countries in the world and yet an increasing number of our citizens are suffering from malnourishment, living on the streets, and dying in their thousands so that Johnson and his mates can get richer. It's disgusting.

By comparison, I couldn't give a shit if a man had some questionable meetings. I vote on policies, not personalities.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I work in mental health. The Tories have decimated public services and left the most vulnerable to rot. We're one of the richest countries in the world and yet an increasing number of our citizens are suffering from malnourishment, living on the streets, and dying in their thousands so that Johnson and his mates can get richer. It's disgusting.

By comparison, I couldn't give a shit if a man had some questionable meetings. I vote on policies, not personalities."

This

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Is it just me or who else find that boris comes across as a narcissistic?

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over a year ago

Too many Sun readers on here. All the people who say anyone but Corbyn have never ever got a legitimate reason why. They just repeat what they read in the papers. The papers that are run by billionaires.

It boils down to this...

If you have kids, elderly relatives or know anyone that relies on the NHS then vote labour. If you are loaded and happy to pay thousands of pounds for your healthcare in the future then vote Tory.

It's not all about Johnson or Corbyn. It's about the parties policies.

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Seriously so much misinformation in that first post.

Bobby sands funeral hmm well that was John Gibney an IRA member who looked similar FACTCHECKED. Boris is a lying racist, homophobe who looks at you and I like dog turds. Anyone who votes Tory in this election has the blood of many people on their hands. Fuck the government Fuck Boris *rant over

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"Is it just me or who else find that boris comes across as a narcissistic?"

They all are thats why they all go into politics.

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By *est Wales WifeCouple
over a year ago

Near Carmarthen

The original post is of course typical cut and paste cobblers that is either false or completely out of context when talking about terrorism etc.

I do not believe that this post has any place in this forum but meanwhile for balance (and I could add many, many more).

1. The Times sacked Boris Johnson in 1988 for making up a quote in a front-page story.

The former journalist fabricated a claim by his godfather, academic Colin Lucas, that Edward II and his lover Piers Gaveston would have cavorted in a newly-discovered Rose Palace.

In what the 23-year-old later called “my biggest cock-up”, it emerged the Palace was only built long after Gaveston was murdered.

Rather than admit his lie Mr Johnson wrote a further story saying “the mystery had deepened”.

He admitted in 2013: “I mildly sandpapered something somebody said, and yes it’s very embarrassing and I’m very sorry about it.”

2.By 2004, by now MP for Henley, Boris Johnson was hit by another storm that cost his job.

He was sacked as Tory vice chair and Shadow Arts Minister after aides to leader Michael Howard decided he had lied about an affair.

3. Boris Johnson was secretly recorded in 1990 in a phone call with former Eton pal Darius Guppy, who was jailed for five years in 1993 for his part in an insurance fraud.

Mr Guppy wanted contact details for News of the World journalist Stuart Collier, who was investigating his affairs. “There is nothing which I won't do to get my revenge,” he said.

Asked by Mr Johnson “how badly are you going to hurt this guy”, he replied the journalist “will not be seriously hurt” but “will probably get a couple of black eyes and... a cracked rib.”

Mr Johnson could be heard seeking assurances he would not get in "trouble" before saying: "OK, Darrie, I said I'll do it."

No attack ever took place and Mr Johnson said in 2013 he was just “humouring” his old pal.

But Mr Collier, now 69, said he feared for his family and called on the new Prime Minister to apologise.

Mr Johnson had denied reports of a four-year fling with journalist Petronella Wyatt, saying: “I have not had an affair with Petronella. It is complete balderdash.”

But her mother said the affair did happen - and Petronella had an abortion as a result.

Lady Verushka Wyatt added: “The reason she went out with him was because he said he was going to marry her.”

Mr Johnson has since stayed quiet, saying in 2013: “I don’t propose to go into all that again.”

But Ms Wyatt admits the pair had a “tendresse”. Michael Howard added: “My director of communications at the time was convinced Boris had lied to him.”

4. Boris Johnson worsened the plight of Nazanin Zaghari-Ratcliffe in loose comments he made as Foreign Secretary in 2017.

He wrongly told MPs the British mum, held in Iran on spying charges, was “teaching people journalism”.

That undermined her defence that she was on holiday - one backed up by her employers.

Four days after Mr Johnson’s comments she was threatened with five more years’ jail on charges of “propaganda against the regime”.

Mr Johnson dodged blame, saying his comments "didn’t, I think, make any difference" to the time she spent in jail.

But Nazanin’s husband Richard Ratcliffe said: “Of course they had consequences.”

5. Boris Johnson branded black people ‘piccaninnies’ with ‘watermelon smiles’ in 2002.

He wrote in the Telegraph: "It is said that the Queen has come to love the Commonwealth, partly because it supplies her with regular cheering crowds of flag-waving piccaninnies."

Speaking of Tony Blair ’s trip to the Democratic Republic of Congo, he said: “No doubt the AK47s will fall silent, and the pangas will stop their hacking of human flesh.

“And the tribal warriors will all break out in watermelon smiles to see the big white chief touch down in his big white British taxpayer-funded bird.”

6. In August 2018 he branded Muslim face veils “oppressive”, “weird and bullying” and said it was “absolutely ridiculous that people should choose to go around looking like letterboxes."

Any female student who turned up to school "looking like a bank robber" should be asked to remove their face covering, he added.

He went on to argue against banning the burqa in public, but his snide remarks prompted outrage, including from senior Tories.

He refused to apologise

7 Boris indulged in a racist description of Barack Obama at the height of the EU referendum in 2016.

He claimed a bust of Winston Churchill in the Oval Office had been removed around the time the US President moved in.

He remarked: “Some said it was a symbol of the part-Kenyan President's ancestral dislike of the British Empire, of which Churchill had been such a fervent defender."

Those condemning his “nasty” comments included Winston Churchill’s Tory grandson.

And Barack Obama - who was born in the US - revealed he had actually moved the bust to a prime spot outside his private office, saying: "I love Winston Churchill. Love the guy."

8. Boris Johnson was a figurehead of the 2016 Vote Leave campaign, fuelling their lie that the UK sent the EU £350million a week.

He rode the infamous battle bus emblazoned with the figure and appeared in front of a banner that said: “Let’s give our NHS the £350million the EU takes every week.”

The UK Statistics Authority said the figure was £285m a week, without factoring EU payments to the UK. With only the most basic EU payments (directly to the UK public sector) factored in, that dropped to £190m.

Yet the MP carried on using the debunked figure for more than a year. In a damning rebuke the Statistics Authority told him it was a “clear misuse of official statistics”.

9. ote Leave was accused of misleading scaremongering in 2016 for running an ad campaign that said: "Turkey (population 76million) is joining the EU".

In fact, Turkey had been trying to join for decades, had yet to meet many requirements, and Britain could veto its membership.

Boris Johnson - who has Turkish ancestry - later claimed “I didn’t make any remarks about Turkey” in the referendum.

But this was untrue. He said in a BBC debate two days before the vote: “Last time I looked the government wants to accelerate Turkish membership.”

He was also in the “core group” of the campaign committee for Vote Leave. Former Vote Leave director Dominic Cummings claimed Mr Johnson helped secure 650,000 votes by “picking up the baseball bat marked ‘Turkey/NHS/£350 million’ with five weeks to go”.

10. Boris Johnson broke rules on financial interests three times in less than a year.

He breached the Ministerial Code in August 2018 by starting a £275,000-a-year newspaper column just three days after quitting as Foreign Secretary.

In December he was ordered to apologise for failing to declare £52,723 of income on time.

And in April 2019 he was 11 months late registering his 20% share in a property in Somerset.

Parliament’s Standards Commissioner accused him of a “lack of respect” for the system adding: "I do not accept that this was an inadvertent breach of the rules."

11. As mayor, Boris Johnson backed a failed plan for a “floating paradise” across the River Thames that blew £43million of public money.

The Garden Bridge was beset by controversy from the start until it was finally scrapped by his successor Sadiq Khan in 2017.

As costs spiralled critics blasted the link for being privately run, yet publicly-subsidised, while there was a more pressing need for Thames crossings elsewhere.

Yet Boris Johnson was a doughty defender of the “vanity project” - even making a secretive trip to San Francisco in 2013 in a bid to get Apple to sponsor it.

12. As London mayor he paid £322,000 for three second-hand water cannon devices after the 2014 riots.

The bill included £32,004 for low emission zone compliance, £19,035 for re-painting and almost £1,000 to fit CD players.

But he bought them before they had been licensed for use in Britain.

And they were left to rust in a police firing range after their use was ruled illegal by then-Home Secretary Theresa May .

Finally in 2018 they were sold for scrap - for the princely sum of £11,025.

13. For millions of Londoners, his most irritating vanity project is the ‘New Routemaster’ bus.

The flashy vehicles were designed by Thomas Heatherwick, the same studio behind the ill-fated Garden Bridge (see above).

At £325,000 a pop, they cost almost double a conventional double-decker.

Yet they had to be retrofitted with openable windows after stifling conditions led them to be branded “saunas on wheels”.

New orders were discontinued by his successor Sadiq Khan in 2017.

14. Police were called to the flat Boris Johnson, 55, shared with 31-year-old girlfriend Carrie Symonds after a blazing row in June.

Neighbour Tom Penn dialled 999 after he heard the words "get off me" and "get out of my flat”, as well as "a loud scream and banging, followed by silence."

He then handed a tape of the incident to the Guardian newspaper - prompting a furious backlash from Boris Johnson supporters.

Boris Johnson refused to comment on the incident.

15. It seems more like a row from the Victorian era, but we have a Prime Minister who refuses to say how many children he has.

Boris Johnson split from wife Marina Wheeler. The couple, who married in 1993, have four children together - Lara, Milo Arthur, Cassia Peaches, and Theodore Apollo.

But he has had multiple affairs, including the one with Petronella Wyatt (above) which led to a pregnancy that was terminated.

And a 2013 court ruling said the public were entitled to know about claims that one affair - with art consultant Helen Macintyre - resulted in a daughter who was his.

The child's family had sought to stop the father being named. But the Court of Appeal said: “The core information in this story, namely that the father had an adulterous affair with the mother, deceiving both his wife and the mother's partner and that the claimant, born about nine months later, was likely to be the father's child, was a public interest matter which the electorate was entitled to know when considering his fitness for high public office."

16. In a 1998 Telegraph column about Peter Mandelson's resignation, Johnson said the announcement would lead to the blubbing of “tank-topped bumboys" in "the Ministry of Sound" nightclub.

Two years later in a Spectator article, he attacked what he called "Labour's appalling agenda, encouraging the teaching of homosexuality in schools, and all the rest of it."

And in a 2002 book he said: “If gay marriage was OK… I saw no reason in principle why a union should not be consecrated between three men, as well as two men, or indeed three men and a dog.”

He has refused to apologise for the “bum boys” comments.

17. Boris Johnson was scolded through gritted teeth by Britain’s Ambassador to Myanmar when he recited a pro-Colonial poem in a sacred Buddhist temple.

In an incredible diplomatic gaffe in 2017, he recited the opening verse to Rudyard Kipling's The Road to Mandalay at the Shwedagon Pagoda in Myanmar's capital Yangon.

Kipling’s poem captures the nostalgia of a retired serviceman looking back on his colonial service and a Burmese girl he kissed.

The ambassador, Andrew Patrick, said between gritted teeth "probably not a good idea" and added: "Not appropriate".

18. The Foreign Secretary was berated at a Sikh temple for talking about whisky exports to India – despite alcohol being forbidden in the faith.

He said at the Bristol temple in 2017: “Whenever we go to India, to Mumbai or to Delhi, we have to bring ‘clinkie’ in our luggage.

“We have to bring Johnnie Walker, we have to bring whisky because as you may know there is a duty of 150% in India on imports of Scotch whisky so we have to bring it in duty free for our relatives. But imagine what we could do if there was a free trade deal with India – which there will be.”

A voter was described as "absolutely livid" after telling the gaffe-prone Tory, who was wearing an orange turban, that it was against Sikhism.

The woman reportedly told Mr Johnson: "How dare you talk about alcohol in a Sikh temple?"

18, Boris Johnson won a £1,000 prize in 2016 for the most offensive poem about the hugely controversial Turkish leader Recep Tayyip Erdogan.

His limerick declared: “There was a young fellow from Ankara, Who was a terrific w***erer. Till he sowed his wild oats, With the help of a goat, But he didn’t even stop to thankera.”

Mr Johnson, who has a Turkish grandfather, later met the President and was asked by journalists if he would like to apologise.

19. Tory leader Michael Howard forced the MP to visit Liverpool to apologise in 2004 after he blamed fans for Hillsborough - and accused citizens of “wallowing in victim status”.

The Spectator - which he was editing at the time - printed an editorial saying the tragedy was “no excuse for Liverpool’s failure to acknowledge, even to this day, the part played in the disaster by d*unken fans at the back of the crowd who mindlessly tried to fight their way into the ground that Saturday afternoon.”

Smearing Liverpudlians the editorial added: “They see themselves whenever possible as victims, and resent their victim status; yet at the same time they wallow in it.”

An independent report and the 2016 inquests ruled there was nothing to suggest fans’ behaviour contributed to the disaster.

20. Boris Johnson apologised to the entire country of Papua New Guinea in 2006 for joking about their "orgies of cannibalism."

The then shadow higher education minister wrote in the Telegraph: "For 10 years we in the Tory Party have become used to Papua New Guinea-style orgies of cannibalism and chief-killing."

But Papua New Guinea's High Commissioner in London, Jean L Kekedo, branded the remarks "an insult" to her nation's "integrity and intelligence".

She added: "I am shocked and appalled by such comments from a seemingly well-educated person.

21. In March 2019, Boris Johnson has said police spending on child sexual abuse investigations was "spaffed up a wall".

The former Foreign Secretary said: "Keeping numbers high on the streets is certainly important. But it depends where you spend the money and where you deploy the officers.

"And one comment I would make is I think an awful lot of money and an awful lot of police time now goes into these historic offences and all this malarkey.

"You know, £60 million I saw was being spaffed up a wall on some investigation into historic child abuse."

Labour demanded an apology, saying his "disgusting" remarks were an "insult to every survivor of child sex abuse."

And the NSPCC said the former Foreign Secretary’s language was “crass.”

21. Another alleged outburst came when he was Mayor of London and being briefed about the cost of inquests into the 2005 London terror attacks, which killed 52.

Brian Coleman, who was chair of the London Fire and Emergency Planning Authority, claims Boris Johnson erupted in fury and said: “F*** the families! F*** the families!”

A second source told the Sunday Mirror he was certain Boris used the offensive words.

22. Millionaire Boris Johnson’s huge wealth leads to claims he is out of touch with what ordinary Brits face.

He made more than £700,000 in earnings alongside his job as an MP through the year after he quit as Foreign Secretary.

They included a £275,000-a-year column in the Daily Telegraph and more than £400,000 for speeches, including £42,580 for a single speech promoting a No Deal Brexit .

In 2009 he described his column, which at the time paid £250,000, as “chicken feed”.

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over a year ago


"I'd rather boil my head, than vote for Corbyn"

This....

xx N

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over a year ago


"Is it just me or who else find that boris comes across as a narcissistic?

They all are thats why they all go into politics. "
That is right some show it more than others.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Facts are facts

The uk is deep in the shit and I don’t think an election is going to save us end of

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By *abioMan
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead


"Boris is not really a liar!

The biggest problem is that he made many statements about Brexit and it was Parliament (i.e. Labour) who prevented him from carrying out those statements.

The media are also very good at misconstruing what he actually says!

To my mind, this is a "Brexit" election, if you want democracy then there can only be one party to vote for and that is the Conservatives!

I think you'll find the queen and our highest court in the land would disagree with you.

I was reading somewhere yesterday probably the guardian in the small print Boris is trying to change the law to absolve himself on some process

Correct me if I’m wrong "

nope..you are right.... page 48 of the conservative manifesto....

i know none of you will do yourselves a favour and read it before you vote tory.... but you can't say you were not warned what is being proposed....

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over a year ago


"The original post is of course typical cut and paste cobblers that is either false or completely out of context when talking about terrorism etc.

I do not believe that this post has any place in this forum but meanwhile for balance (and I could add many, many more).

"

Ddiolch yn fawr

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over a year ago


"Seriously so much misinformation in that first post.

Bobby sands funeral hmm well that was John Gibney an IRA member who looked similar FACTCHECKED. Boris is a lying racist, homophobe who looks at you and I like dog turds. Anyone who votes Tory in this election has the blood of many people on their hands. Fuck the government Fuck Boris *rant over"

I thought Corbin was the one currently under investigation for racist issues I am pretty sure he and the labour party are currently being investigated for anti-Semitism on an official basis.

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over a year ago


"Is it just me or who else find that boris comes across as a narcissistic?

They all are thats why they all go into politics. That is right some show it more than others."

Someone here compared him to Alan B'stard and I just couldn't believe that I'd not made that comparison before. He's Alan B'stard minus the charm.

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By *abioMan
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead


"The Windrush Scandal...Grenfell...Universal Credit.

Three of many reasons I will NOT be voting Conservative. Never have, never will."

there is no point bringing up windrush or grenfell.....those are issues regarding majority black people, and we know they don't care about them anyway

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over a year ago


"Seriously so much misinformation in that first post.

Bobby sands funeral hmm well that was John Gibney an IRA member who looked similar FACTCHECKED. Boris is a lying racist, homophobe who looks at you and I like dog turds. Anyone who votes Tory in this election has the blood of many people on their hands. Fuck the government Fuck Boris *rant over

I thought Corbin was the one currently under investigation for racist issues I am pretty sure he and the labour party are currently being investigated for anti-Semitism on an official basis. "

And the conservatives for Islamaphobia so it’s both parties

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"Is it just me or who else find that boris comes across as a narcissistic?

They all are thats why they all go into politics. That is right some show it more than others.

Someone here compared him to Alan B'stard and I just couldn't believe that I'd not made that comparison before. He's Alan B'stard minus the charm. "

So then it would be fair to compare Corbin to Adolf Hitler as they both have the same vile racist views right?

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By *issmorganWoman
over a year ago

Calderdale innit


"Boris is not really a liar!

The biggest problem is that he made many statements about Brexit and it was Parliament (i.e. Labour) who prevented him from carrying out those statements.

The media are also very good at misconstruing what he actually says!

To my mind, this is a "Brexit" election, if you want democracy then there can only be one party to vote for and that is the Conservatives!

"

Boris got sacked for lying twice ,so he kind of is

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By *L RogueMan
over a year ago

London

West Wales Wife, Thank you.

The thing that truly winds me up about Tory voters, especially working class Tory voters is that the party thinks so little of you and the world you live in. Even with all of their ills laid bare, our services stripped back and racism that has cost citizens their liberty, you still vote for them.

I've got one question: Why? Please list a policy outside of Brexit as to why.

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By *abioMan
over a year ago

Newcastle and Gateshead


"Seriously so much misinformation in that first post.

Bobby sands funeral hmm well that was John Gibney an IRA member who looked similar FACTCHECKED. Boris is a lying racist, homophobe who looks at you and I like dog turds. Anyone who votes Tory in this election has the blood of many people on their hands. Fuck the government Fuck Boris *rant over

I thought Corbin was the one currently under investigation for racist issues I am pretty sure he and the labour party are currently being investigated for anti-Semitism on an official basis. "

you must have missed the racist and homophobic stuff johnson has said then...

"bum boys"

"piccaninnies"

calling women who wear hijabs "letterboxes"

but then again... he's one of the boys.... right?

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over a year ago


"Just because he’s met with the IRA, doesn’t mean he supports them.

As a Northern Irish Unionist, I’m as much against the IRA as anyone, but I honestly believe Corbyn is a peace maker, not a war maker.

The Tory’s on the other hand, historically, have drummed up so much hatred, they probably extended the troubles by 20 years"

Ok im not into politics as lets be honest they all lie.. but may i ask this... who was in power when the UK armed forces entered the Middle East some decades ago.

Shame Monster Raving Loony party aint still going .

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"Is it just me or who else find that boris comes across as a narcissistic?

They all are thats why they all go into politics. That is right some show it more than others.

Someone here compared him to Alan B'stard and I just couldn't believe that I'd not made that comparison before. He's Alan B'stard minus the charm.

So then it would be fair to compare Corbin to Adolf Hitler as they both have the same vile racist views right? "

And the conservatives regarded as the nasty party for the war on the disabled ?

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"Seriously so much misinformation in that first post.

Bobby sands funeral hmm well that was John Gibney an IRA member who looked similar FACTCHECKED. Boris is a lying racist, homophobe who looks at you and I like dog turds. Anyone who votes Tory in this election has the blood of many people on their hands. Fuck the government Fuck Boris *rant over

I thought Corbin was the one currently under investigation for racist issues I am pretty sure he and the labour party are currently being investigated for anti-Semitism on an official basis.

you must have missed the racist and homophobic stuff johnson has said then...

"bum boys"

"piccaninnies"

calling women who wear hijabs "letterboxes"

but then again... he's one of the boys.... right?"

I haven't missed anything is he under investigation by the

Equality and Human Rights Commission? Well is he?

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By *L RogueMan
over a year ago

London


"The Windrush Scandal...Grenfell...Universal Credit.

Three of many reasons I will NOT be voting Conservative. Never have, never will.

there is no point bringing up windrush or grenfell.....those are issues regarding majority black people, and we know they don't care about them anyway"

I know...

My hope was that maybe someone other than the only other black person in the thread might pick up on it and condemn it too. Got to be optimistic, right?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The so called Brexit Democratic vote based on misinformation has just shown that our govt political process is shit

Now we’re faced an election of two main parties that are both crap on varying issues

I’ll be having a drink Thursday and a smoke I know that !

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"The Windrush Scandal...Grenfell...Universal Credit.

Three of many reasons I will NOT be voting Conservative. Never have, never will.

there is no point bringing up windrush or grenfell.....those are issues regarding majority black people, and we know they don't care about them anyway

I know...

My hope was that maybe someone other than the only other black person in the thread might pick up on it and condemn it too. Got to be optimistic, right? "

I’m not black but I’ll put my hands up for this

I represented house music for 30 odd years so I here ya !

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"Seriously so much misinformation in that first post.

Bobby sands funeral hmm well that was John Gibney an IRA member who looked similar FACTCHECKED. Boris is a lying racist, homophobe who looks at you and I like dog turds. Anyone who votes Tory in this election has the blood of many people on their hands. Fuck the government Fuck Boris *rant over

I thought Corbin was the one currently under investigation for racist issues I am pretty sure he and the labour party are currently being investigated for anti-Semitism on an official basis.

you must have missed the racist and homophobic stuff johnson has said then...

"bum boys"

"piccaninnies"

calling women who wear hijabs "letterboxes"

but then again... he's one of the boys.... right?

I haven't missed anything is he under investigation by the

Equality and Human Rights Commission? Well is he?"

They are still undecided on that one and theirs calls on lain Duncan Smith to stand trial on the disabled suicides so it doesn’t look good does it

I don’t think anyone was killed in the labour mistakes tho ! Fact

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over a year ago


"

The thing that truly winds me up about Tory voters, especially working class Tory voters is that the party thinks so little of you and the world you live in. Even with all of their ills laid bare, our services stripped back and racism that has cost citizens their liberty, you still vote for them.

"

Oh, the times I've said this. You're voting for a man who would call you a "pleb" or a "grockle" and regard you with utter contempt. The sheer embarrassment of having our country represented by such a person is depressing beyond words.

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By *L RogueMan
over a year ago

London


"The Windrush Scandal...Grenfell...Universal Credit.

Three of many reasons I will NOT be voting Conservative. Never have, never will.

there is no point bringing up windrush or grenfell.....those are issues regarding majority black people, and we know they don't care about them anyway

I know...

My hope was that maybe someone other than the only other black person in the thread might pick up on it and condemn it too. Got to be optimistic, right?

I’m not black but I’ll put my hands up for this

I represented house music for 30 odd years so I here ya ! "

Cheers!

Plus, many different communities suffered on that horrible night and many haven't been housed either. Also, Universal Credit has seen poorer families even worse off.

and people still vote Conservative?

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over a year ago

As for the ehrc that’s a joke within itself they have so many internal problems they don’t know there arse from there elbow very much like the ombudsman service set up to take the pressure off the courts and defend the public

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"The Windrush Scandal...Grenfell...Universal Credit.

Three of many reasons I will NOT be voting Conservative. Never have, never will.

there is no point bringing up windrush or grenfell.....those are issues regarding majority black people, and we know they don't care about them anyway

I know...

My hope was that maybe someone other than the only other black person in the thread might pick up on it and condemn it too. Got to be optimistic, right? "

Windrush yes an applauding situation

Grenfell well I thought the local MP was labour so your point is?

Universal credit is for everyone wh claims government support line not limited to specific races so your point is?

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