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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

Yes this is Negative !

But having watched and tried to follow the campaign aswell as well as previous knowledge I’ve come to the conclusion that all the three leaders and party’s are pretty equally Awfull in thier own way !

I do not take pleasure in this conclusion it saddens and pisses me off !

Happy to be proved wrong if anyone can ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

The media portrays it that way, but it's just a fact, do you buy into the lies and vote Tories or believe this country can be better and vote Labour?

You'll be voting Conservative won't you? Same goes for most on this forum.

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By *teveuk77Man
over a year ago

uk


"Yes this is Negative !

But having watched and tried to follow the campaign aswell as well as previous knowledge I’ve come to the conclusion that all the three leaders and party’s are pretty equally Awfull in thier own way !

I do not take pleasure in this conclusion it saddens and pisses me off !

Happy to be proved wrong if anyone can ?"

If they are all so awful, perhaps you could give 3 examples of what's wrong with each of them?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Yes this is Negative !

But having watched and tried to follow the campaign aswell as well as previous knowledge I’ve come to the conclusion that all the three leaders and party’s are pretty equally Awfull in thier own way !

I do not take pleasure in this conclusion it saddens and pisses me off !

Happy to be proved wrong if anyone can ?"

If course we had worse

We had THATCHER !!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Nobody on my ballot paper reflects my views. I will just go with the one that won't do the most damage. A sorry state of affairs really.

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By *ara JTV/TS
over a year ago

Bristol East

Yes, it does not fill me with much confidence about UK when I am left to ponder the "least worst" option on the voting slip.

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By *teveuk77Man
over a year ago

uk


"Nobody on my ballot paper reflects my views. I will just go with the one that won't do the most damage. A sorry state of affairs really."

you should have got your name on the ballot paper

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"The media portrays it that way, but it's just a fact, do you buy into the lies and vote Tories or believe this country can be better and vote Labour?

You'll be voting Conservative won't you? Same goes for most on this forum."

No I won’t !

I genuinely can’t bring myself to vote for any of the main 3 !

Whoever I vote for won’t matter where I live under our system !

I believe in voting so will go Yorkshire Party or very probbally SDP .

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Yes this is Negative !

But having watched and tried to follow the campaign aswell as well as previous knowledge I’ve come to the conclusion that all the three leaders and party’s are pretty equally Awfull in thier own way !

I do not take pleasure in this conclusion it saddens and pisses me off !

Happy to be proved wrong if anyone can ?

If they are all so awful, perhaps you could give 3 examples of what's wrong with each of them?

"

No problem !

1 Johnson is thick !

2. Corbyns lot will bankrupt us

3 liberals ignore the referendum !

Ok for starters ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Yes this is Negative !

But having watched and tried to follow the campaign aswell as well as previous knowledge I’ve come to the conclusion that all the three leaders and party’s are pretty equally Awfull in thier own way !

I do not take pleasure in this conclusion it saddens and pisses me off !

Happy to be proved wrong if anyone can ?"

I have lived and worked in many different countries, lived under all kinds of political systems and seen all kinds of leaders. Of them all Jeremy Corbyn is probably the most honourable man I have ever seen in politics. The reason why his named is so effectively smeared is because he refuses to stoop down to the level of others and he does things which he knows will hurt him politically but still does them because they are the right thing to do.

I think we are lucky to have a man like him in our time and it saddens me that he won't be in politics when the boomer-vote-tory-because-Ive-always-voted-tory generation haved died off and the generation who want a future take their place.

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By *mmabluTV/TS
over a year ago

upton wirral


"Yes this is Negative !

But having watched and tried to follow the campaign aswell as well as previous knowledge I’ve come to the conclusion that all the three leaders and party’s are pretty equally Awfull in thier own way !

I do not take pleasure in this conclusion it saddens and pisses me off !

Happy to be proved wrong if anyone can ?"

Sadly true

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By *mmabluTV/TS
over a year ago

upton wirral


"Yes this is Negative !

But having watched and tried to follow the campaign aswell as well as previous knowledge I’ve come to the conclusion that all the three leaders and party’s are pretty equally Awfull in thier own way !

I do not take pleasure in this conclusion it saddens and pisses me off !

Happy to be proved wrong if anyone can ?

I have lived and worked in many different countries, lived under all kinds of political systems and seen all kinds of leaders. Of them all Jeremy Corbyn is probably the most honourable man I have ever seen in politics. The reason why his named is so effectively smeared is because he refuses to stoop down to the level of others and he does things which he knows will hurt him politically but still does them because they are the right thing to do.

I think we are lucky to have a man like him in our time and it saddens me that he won't be in politics when the boomer-vote-tory-because-Ive-always-voted-tory generation haved died off and the generation who want a future take their place."

You must wear sun glasses when in other countries lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Have we ever had a worse choice? I don't think we have.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Yes this is Negative !

But having watched and tried to follow the campaign aswell as well as previous knowledge I’ve come to the conclusion that all the three leaders and party’s are pretty equally Awfull in thier own way !

I do not take pleasure in this conclusion it saddens and pisses me off !

Happy to be proved wrong if anyone can ?

I have lived and worked in many different countries, lived under all kinds of political systems and seen all kinds of leaders. Of them all Jeremy Corbyn is probably the most honourable man I have ever seen in politics. The reason why his named is so effectively smeared is because he refuses to stoop down to the level of others and he does things which he knows will hurt him politically but still does them because they are the right thing to do.

I think we are lucky to have a man like him in our time and it saddens me that he won't be in politics when the boomer-vote-tory-because-Ive-always-voted-tory generation haved died off and the generation who want a future take their place.You must wear sun glasses when in other countries lol"

Pretty essential in most of them. Not so much in the Canadian and Swedish winters. Nothing like a good pair of polarised sunglasses. But not nearly as effective as the blinkers most people have on here in the UK.

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By *oodmessMan
over a year ago

yumsville


"Yes this is Negative !

But having watched and tried to follow the campaign aswell as well as previous knowledge I’ve come to the conclusion that all the three leaders and party’s are pretty equally Awfull in thier own way !

I do not take pleasure in this conclusion it saddens and pisses me off !

Happy to be proved wrong if anyone can ?

If they are all so awful, perhaps you could give 3 examples of what's wrong with each of them?

"

What is right with any of them?

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By *ara JTV/TS
over a year ago

Bristol East


"

I believe in voting so will go Yorkshire Party or very probbally SDP ."

I am guessing Yorkshire Party is like the Shetland Movement, but what is SDP?

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By *ara JTV/TS
over a year ago

Bristol East


"

Of them all Jeremy Corbyn is probably the most honourable man I have ever seen in politics. The reason why his named is so effectively smeared is because he refuses to stoop down to the level of others and he does things which he knows will hurt him politically but still does them because they are the right thing to do.

I think we are lucky to have a man like him in our time and it saddens me that he won't be in politics when the boomer-vote-tory-because-Ive-always-voted-tory generation haved died off and the generation who want a future take their place."

I agree with a lot of what you say.

He has fought injustice all his life and history shows he was always on the right side.

A campaigner.

But as a leader aspiring to become PM?

I'm not so sure he has those qualities.

That said, I have just remembered he went to Cluj v Glasgow Celtic in the Champions League back in the summer, so maybe he will get my vote after all.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I've been a Labour member pretty much all my life but left due to the bullying and vile nature within the party since JC became leader. Constant insults, threats and nastiness if you dare disagree with them. The Labour Party used to be a broad church of views but not anymore.

John son and his ilk are actually in my view worse than Thatcher. Thatcher at least had a clear ideology, which I detested, but she was consistent and didn't try to close Parliament. This lot haven't a clue.

My vote is going to the Lib Dems. Not entirely convinced by them but are certainly the best of a bad lot IMO.

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By *oodmessMan
over a year ago

yumsville


"I've been a Labour member pretty much all my life but left due to the bullying and vile nature within the party since JC became leader. Constant insults, threats and nastiness if you dare disagree with them. The Labour Party used to be a broad church of views but not anymore.

John son and his ilk are actually in my view worse than Thatcher. Thatcher at least had a clear ideology, which I detested, but she was consistent and didn't try to close Parliament. This lot haven't a clue.

My vote is going to the Lib Dems. Not entirely convinced by them but are certainly the best of a bad lot IMO. "

It's an awful and tough choice.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I've been a Labour member pretty much all my life but left due to the bullying and vile nature within the party since JC became leader. Constant insults, threats and nastiness if you dare disagree with them. The Labour Party used to be a broad church of views but not anymore.

John son and his ilk are actually in my view worse than Thatcher. Thatcher at least had a clear ideology, which I detested, but she was consistent and didn't try to close Parliament. This lot haven't a clue.

My vote is going to the Lib Dems. Not entirely convinced by them but are certainly the best of a bad lot IMO.

It's an awful and tough choice. "

It is, I'm going to feel very sad not being able to vote Labour for the first time

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By *oodmessMan
over a year ago

yumsville


"I've been a Labour member pretty much all my life but left due to the bullying and vile nature within the party since JC became leader. Constant insults, threats and nastiness if you dare disagree with them. The Labour Party used to be a broad church of views but not anymore.

John son and his ilk are actually in my view worse than Thatcher. Thatcher at least had a clear ideology, which I detested, but she was consistent and didn't try to close Parliament. This lot haven't a clue.

My vote is going to the Lib Dems. Not entirely convinced by them but are certainly the best of a bad lot IMO.

It's an awful and tough choice.

It is, I'm going to feel very sad not being able to vote Labour for the first time "

For me, it's more, no one party representing wholly what I want.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I've been a Labour member pretty much all my life but left due to the bullying and vile nature within the party since JC became leader. Constant insults, threats and nastiness if you dare disagree with them. The Labour Party used to be a broad church of views but not anymore.

John son and his ilk are actually in my view worse than Thatcher. Thatcher at least had a clear ideology, which I detested, but she was consistent and didn't try to close Parliament. This lot haven't a clue.

My vote is going to the Lib Dems. Not entirely convinced by them but are certainly the best of a bad lot IMO.

It's an awful and tough choice.

It is, I'm going to feel very sad not being able to vote Labour for the first time

For me, it's more, no one party representing wholly what I want. "

When you say "what I want" do you mean for the country or for yourself? Just curious.

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By *V-AliceTV/TS
over a year ago

Ayr

No. We haven't. In Scotland, it's even worse because 55% of us still believe sticking with the system that's going to foist this backward thinking, right wing, shit-show of a government on us again - because it's what sells down south - is the best we can do.

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By *oodmessMan
over a year ago

yumsville


"I've been a Labour member pretty much all my life but left due to the bullying and vile nature within the party since JC became leader. Constant insults, threats and nastiness if you dare disagree with them. The Labour Party used to be a broad church of views but not anymore.

John son and his ilk are actually in my view worse than Thatcher. Thatcher at least had a clear ideology, which I detested, but she was consistent and didn't try to close Parliament. This lot haven't a clue.

My vote is going to the Lib Dems. Not entirely convinced by them but are certainly the best of a bad lot IMO.

It's an awful and tough choice.

It is, I'm going to feel very sad not being able to vote Labour for the first time

For me, it's more, no one party representing wholly what I want.

When you say "what I want" do you mean for the country or for yourself? Just curious. "

With respect, I have a few ideas but I'm no politician. But do I mean for myself.

If I am taking a Democratic view. People voted Brexit for many different personal reasons. Whether; Over regulation, fishing rights, money, borders, reduced immigration, wider trading, outright change.

From what I can see neither the Torys or Labour are nailing any of the above. Of the above, the Torys want a point based immigration and the only country mentioned is the USA in trading. Labour's Brexit hasn't mentioned any "Breixt ills" but will put us in a worse position than remaining as it'll keep us within the CU and Single Market but without the advantages gathered over the past 40+ years..

The election though is not just Brexit. It is national policy, more-so with Labour and Libs.

Labour - as we'll be worse of treaty wise if ratified. If it gets rejected, we are left with unfathomable spending plans. So the other option is the Libs who will not spend the ridiculous sums of Labour but don't have enough candidates to form government.

The Torys don't want to break up the union, Labour will give a Scottish referendum as will the Libs (though have now changed position). Where Gibraltar and N.Ireland stand is a mystery.

I know what I want, the country doesn't know what it wants as much.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


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I believe in voting so will go Yorkshire Party or very probbally SDP .

I am guessing Yorkshire Party is like the Shetland Movement, but what is SDP?

"

I think it must be what’s left of the original lol

He’s a ycfc fan and Rod Little the collumn writer supports them ??

Pro Brexit but recognise imigrstion can be good want to nationalise some things !

A bit lefty Righty lol

So yes a wasted vote but any vote unless you go labour is where I live !

We need PR !

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By *nleashedCrakenMan
over a year ago

Widnes


"The media portrays it that way, but it's just a fact, do you buy into the lies and vote Tories or believe this country can be better and vote Labour?

You'll be voting Conservative won't you? Same goes for most on this forum."

I don't buy into the lies and won't be voting for the Tories. I've also not fallen for the other set of lies that we can fix all our problems by just taxing the 'rich few a little bit more' so I won't be voting Labour either.

It's my opinion that, with Corbyn in charge, the Conservatives should have walked this election and the only reason they are not is because of BREXIT and Johnson.

It's also my opinion that with BREXIT and Johnson Labour should have walked this election and the only reason they're not Corbyn.

The people have been given a choice between sandwich filled with shit or a sausage role with a turd. They think they have to choose one and are struggling to decide which one is least unpalatable.

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By *nleashedCrakenMan
over a year ago

Widnes


"

I believe in voting so will go Yorkshire Party or very probbally SDP .

I am guessing Yorkshire Party is like the Shetland Movement, but what is SDP?

"

Social Democratic Party.

Most of it joined with the Liberal party back in the 80s and formed The Liberal & Social Democratic Party; more commonly known as the LibDems.

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By *an For YouMan
over a year ago

belfast/holywood


"Yes this is Negative !

But having watched and tried to follow the campaign aswell as well as previous knowledge I’ve come to the conclusion that all the three leaders and party’s are pretty equally Awfull in thier own way !

I do not take pleasure in this conclusion it saddens and pisses me off !

Happy to be proved wrong if anyone can ?

If course we had worse

We had THATCHER !!"

Thatcher was in a differnt league to Boris. Boris is a lying deceitful philandering Buffon . Maggie was brilliant on every level. After Churchill , probably our finest PM

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Yes this is Negative !

But having watched and tried to follow the campaign aswell as well as previous knowledge I’ve come to the conclusion that all the three leaders and party’s are pretty equally Awfull in thier own way !

I do not take pleasure in this conclusion it saddens and pisses me off !

Happy to be proved wrong if anyone can ?

If course we had worse

We had THATCHER !!

Thatcher was in a differnt league to Boris. Boris is a lying deceitful philandering Buffon . Maggie was brilliant on every level. After Churchill , probably our finest PM"

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

I think the Majority agree !

Pity we can’t have a none of you vote on the ballot paper !

It might make someone get thier act together !

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Yes this is Negative !

But having watched and tried to follow the campaign aswell as well as previous knowledge I’ve come to the conclusion that all the three leaders and party’s are pretty equally Awfull in thier own way !

I do not take pleasure in this conclusion it saddens and pisses me off !

Happy to be proved wrong if anyone can ?

If course we had worse

We had THATCHER !!

Thatcher was in a differnt league to Boris. Boris is a lying deceitful philandering Buffon . Maggie was brilliant on every level. After Churchill , probably our finest PM"

Thatcher is still the route of everything bad happening now .

FFS deluded tories

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