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"https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/nov/25/labour-to-launch-race-and-faith-manifesto So they plan to teach every student how awful Britain is and how to hate it and themselves for colonialism which they had nothing to do with, introduce more quotas where people will be appointed by their race, not their ability, and the Treasury would make decisions for the country based on how much they affect ethnic minorities, because, you know, the Treasury makes different rules for different races apparently. As an ethnic minority from a former colony, I think this anti British witchunt needs to stop. Everything about "woke social justice" culture is deeply deeply flawed, hateful, anti British, anti democratic, anti meritocratic, skews history and it is racist to the core. I literally can't stand it. " That’s the Labour Party for ya; anti British , pro terrorist , anti Semitic, anti Forces, anti business, pro scroungers, anti work, pro IRA, pro Hamas, bunch of cowardly left wing socialist losers | |||
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"https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/nov/25/labour-to-launch-race-and-faith-manifesto So they plan to teach every student how awful Britain is and how to hate it and themselves for colonialism which they had nothing to do with, introduce more quotas where people will be appointed by their race, not their ability, and the Treasury would make decisions for the country based on how much they affect ethnic minorities, because, you know, the Treasury makes different rules for different races apparently. As an ethnic minority from a former colony, I think this anti British witchunt needs to stop. Everything about "woke social justice" culture is deeply deeply flawed, hateful, anti British, anti democratic, anti meritocratic, skews history and it is racist to the core. I literally can't stand it. That’s the Labour Party for ya; anti British , pro terrorist , anti Semitic, anti Forces, anti business, pro scroungers, anti work, pro IRA, pro Hamas, bunch of cowardly left wing socialist losers" Talk about just sitting on the fence! | |||
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"And when I say university educated I'm not talking engineering and biology " Oh I know it. It has become so toxic and hateful. | |||
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"In fairness to the OP. Right wing loons aren't the target audience for Labour." | |||
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"In fairness to the OP. Right wing loons aren't the target audience for Labour." That's the problem though. I'm not Right Wing. I'm not even English or White. When a foreigner who isn't white who is from a former colony tells you that this party is literally taking actions to damage your country and people, then you need to get off your smug high horse and reflect on what they are saying. What benefit do I have to say this? How would I benefit from far right white supremacists taking control? I wouldn't. But I also know that far left extremism is just as bad. The fact that you are making ad hominem attacks instead of discussing the points means you have no arguments worth expressing. | |||
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"In fairness to the OP. Right wing loons aren't the target audience for Labour. That's the problem though. I'm not Right Wing. I'm not even English or White. When a foreigner who isn't white who is from a former colony tells you that this party is literally taking actions to damage your country and people, then you need to get off your smug high horse and reflect on what they are saying. What benefit do I have to say this? How would I benefit from far right white supremacists taking control? I wouldn't. But I also know that far left extremism is just as bad. The fact that you are making ad hominem attacks instead of discussing the points means you have no arguments worth expressing. " But you didn't make any points. Just made a load of crazy sounding assumptions. I have no opinion on your ethnicity or country of origin. I don't know why that would have an impact on your opinions. | |||
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"And when I say university educated I'm not talking engineering and biology Oh I know it. It has become so toxic and hateful. " . It's what happens when have a twenty year+ attack of teaching nonsense to young impressionable adults, they turn crackers on all the bullshit they've been fed, it's why the labour party young momentum movement is widely anti-Semitic, it fits in perfectly with other bullshit conspiracy theory teachings. | |||
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"And when I say university educated I'm not talking engineering and biology Oh I know it. It has become so toxic and hateful. . It's what happens when have a twenty year+ attack of teaching nonsense to young impressionable adults, they turn crackers on all the bullshit they've been fed, it's why the labour party young momentum movement is widely anti-Semitic, it fits in perfectly with other bullshit conspiracy theory teachings." An uneducated post about education. Love the irony. | |||
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"In fairness to the OP. Right wing loons aren't the target audience for Labour. That's the problem though. I'm not Right Wing. I'm not even English or White. When a foreigner who isn't white who is from a former colony tells you that this party is literally taking actions to damage your country and people, then you need to get off your smug high horse and reflect on what they are saying. What benefit do I have to say this? How would I benefit from far right white supremacists taking control? I wouldn't. But I also know that far left extremism is just as bad. The fact that you are making ad hominem attacks instead of discussing the points means you have no arguments worth expressing. But you didn't make any points. Just made a load of crazy sounding assumptions. I have no opinion on your ethnicity or country of origin. I don't know why that would have an impact on your opinions." Obviously didn't read either of my posts or the link to the article. | |||
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"And when I say university educated I'm not talking engineering and biology Oh I know it. It has become so toxic and hateful. . It's what happens when have a twenty year+ attack of teaching nonsense to young impressionable adults, they turn crackers on all the bullshit they've been fed, it's why the labour party young momentum movement is widely anti-Semitic, it fits in perfectly with other bullshit conspiracy theory teachings." Jesus Christ would have loved you! Not sure why, given the demented crap you peddle half the time but, he would forgive you your hubris | |||
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"In fairness to the OP. Right wing loons aren't the target audience for Labour. That's the problem though. I'm not Right Wing. I'm not even English or White. When a foreigner who isn't white who is from a former colony tells you that this party is literally taking actions to damage your country and people, then you need to get off your smug high horse and reflect on what they are saying. What benefit do I have to say this? How would I benefit from far right white supremacists taking control? I wouldn't. But I also know that far left extremism is just as bad. The fact that you are making ad hominem attacks instead of discussing the points means you have no arguments worth expressing. But you didn't make any points. Just made a load of crazy sounding assumptions. I have no opinion on your ethnicity or country of origin. I don't know why that would have an impact on your opinions. Obviously didn't read either of my posts or the link to the article. " I think he said he had no opinion on your ethnicity or country of origin so instead of getting hot under the collar you might do well to read his reply with an open mind....just saying | |||
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" So they plan to teach every student how awful Britain is and how to hate it and themselves for colonialism which they had nothing to do with, introduce more quotas where people will be appointed by their race, not their ability, and the Treasury would make decisions for the country based on how much they affect ethnic minorities, because, you know, the Treasury makes different rules for different races apparently. " I read the article in the link you posted, and there is nothing like that reported there. | |||
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"A further point if you use the word identity politics while identifying those on the left you dislike .., " Waiting until you actually discuss the main points instead of failing to be funny repeatedly. | |||
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"Any negative post about labour and the next thing you’ll be labeled far right that’s fab for ya lol" Don't worry sweetheart the wise Alec above has beat you to it and already started his patronising stereotypes and denial of what's actually happening in the world. Blind alliegance is just that - blind. | |||
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"Any negative post about labour and the next thing you’ll be labeled far right that’s fab for ya lol" You far right loons and your love for tuition fees and food banks and gammon and a healthy appreciation for Israel and Judaism and religious tolerance will be the end of us all.. | |||
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"Any negative post about labour and the next thing you’ll be labeled far right that’s fab for ya lol You far right loons and your love for tuition fees and food banks and gammon and a healthy appreciation for Israel and Judaism and religious tolerance will be the end of us all.. " Countdown for accusations of being "far right loons" of anyone who is right of communism. Oh damn, looks like I'm too late. Only thing left now is waiting for accusations of being Nazi and "literally Hitler". Oh, and that conflation of completely unrelated issues like tuition fees, food banks and Israel, even though nobody mentioned them. Damn, looks like that ship has sailed too. | |||
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""Labour descending into far left SJW Woke intersectional feminist anti British hellhole" Maybe if you start writing in plain English . . . " I'm sorry, Dear. My post assumes an average IQ. Nice arse though. That pic of that hairy cock plunging into your pussy is devine. | |||
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"Any negative post about labour and the next thing you’ll be labeled far right that’s fab for ya lol You far right loons and your love for tuition fees and food banks and gammon and a healthy appreciation for Israel and Judaism and religious tolerance will be the end of us all.. Countdown for accusations of being "far right loons" of anyone who is right of communism. Oh damn, looks like I'm too late. Only thing left now is waiting for accusations of being Nazi and "literally Hitler". Oh, and that conflation of completely unrelated issues like tuition fees, food banks and Israel, even though nobody mentioned them. Damn, looks like that ship has sailed too. " Silly billy you missed out alt reich for 1 point and ethno nationalist for another point Trumpanzee would of gotten you 3 points and a bonus point for comedy. | |||
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""Labour descending into far left SJW Woke intersectional feminist anti British hellhole" Maybe if you start writing in plain English . . . I'm sorry, Dear. My post assumes an average IQ. Nice arse though. That pic of that hairy cock plunging into your pussy is devine. " The minute you get personal you lose the argument. | |||
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"The language of the far right . . . from someone hiding behind a profile purporting to be LGBT and BAME . . .in a far-flung land Are you a Russian bot? " Yes. Yes I'm a Russian bot. That seems to be a favourite. Please list the far right opinions expressed here. I have already listed some of Labour's far left opinions. | |||
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"The language of the far right . . . from someone hiding behind a profile purporting to be LGBT and BAME . . .in a far-flung land Are you a Russian bot? " . Sums it up perfectly, you can't be trans/gay/black. You've got the wrong thinking... You've gotta be a Russian bot | |||
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""Labour descending into far left SJW Woke intersectional feminist anti British hellhole" Maybe if you start writing in plain English . . . I'm sorry, Dear. My post assumes an average IQ. Nice arse though. That pic of that hairy cock plunging into your pussy is devine. The minute you get personal you lose the argument." Be a lover not a hater... you tell them Bro . | |||
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"6. across - SJW Woke intersectional feminist (10 letters) Nope, stumped. Back to the Sudoko " | |||
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"The lefties are taking over the asylum lol" Your a labour lefty foxy .Tell the truth ..Just not as far left as comrade Corbyn.. | |||
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"A further point if you use the word identity politics while identifying those on the left you dislike .., Waiting until you actually discuss the main points instead of failing to be funny repeatedly. " You didn't make any points to address. | |||
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"A further point if you use the word identity politics while identifying those on the left you dislike .., Waiting until you actually discuss the main points instead of failing to be funny repeatedly. You didn't make any points to address." They are in the OP related to the article. | |||
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"A further point if you use the word identity politics while identifying those on the left you dislike .., Waiting until you actually discuss the main points instead of failing to be funny repeatedly. You didn't make any points to address. They are in the OP related to the article. " . You can't educate the nutters there too far gone down the road of quackery, hence why there all anti Semitic Corbyn voters. It's the Jewish bankers silly | |||
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"A further point if you use the word identity politics while identifying those on the left you dislike .., Waiting until you actually discuss the main points instead of failing to be funny repeatedly. You didn't make any points to address. They are in the OP related to the article. " I see a rant about hating Britain and some other stuff which suggests that you've completely missed the point. How are we supposed to address stuff like "So they plan to teach every student how awful Britain is and how to hate it and themselves for colonialism". Maybe you could tell us how you managed to twist this around? What part of what they said led you to this conclusion? | |||
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"The lefties are taking over the asylum lol Your a labour lefty foxy .Tell the truth ..Just not as far left as comrade Corbyn.. " bob no one is as far left as Corbyn you just know politics is fucked when neither me nor you can vote for the party we want to bob lol | |||
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"A further point if you use the word identity politics while identifying those on the left you dislike .., Waiting until you actually discuss the main points instead of failing to be funny repeatedly. You didn't make any points to address. They are in the OP related to the article. I see a rant about hating Britain and some other stuff which suggests that you've completely missed the point. How are we supposed to address stuff like "So they plan to teach every student how awful Britain is and how to hate it and themselves for colonialism". Maybe you could tell us how you managed to twist this around? What part of what they said led you to this conclusion?" Good question. It's because of how they deal with this in schools and universities. I've seen it personally, both when I was at uni, and later as an educator. There is a focus on the negatives which happened a long time ago, and not the positives. Bit by bit, they add up to give the impression that the UK is a nasty place full of horrible, racist people,even though those crimes were committed by a tiny minority. This might be tolerable if they also compared it with wrongs by other cultures in a similar era, like the oppression of the Ottoman Empire with the Devishirme and Armenian Genocide, Ghengis Khan and his crimes, the mass executions and famines during the French revolution, Russian revolution and USSR and the Great Leap Forward in China conducted by the left. However those are completely absent from the classrooms. There is no balance. It is all one sided. Britain bad, other cultures good. They never mention the positives of what Britain did. | |||
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"The lefties are taking over the asylum lol Your a labour lefty foxy .Tell the truth ..Just not as far left as comrade Corbyn.. bob no one is as far left as as Corbyn you just know politics is fucked when neither me nor you can vote for the party we want to bob lol" I blame Brexit you blame Karl Marx. | |||
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"A further point if you use the word identity politics while identifying those on the left you dislike .., Waiting until you actually discuss the main points instead of failing to be funny repeatedly. You didn't make any points to address. They are in the OP related to the article. I see a rant about hating Britain and some other stuff which suggests that you've completely missed the point. How are we supposed to address stuff like "So they plan to teach every student how awful Britain is and how to hate it and themselves for colonialism". Maybe you could tell us how you managed to twist this around? What part of what they said led you to this conclusion? Good question. It's because of how they deal with this in schools and universities. I've seen it personally, both when I was at uni, and later as an educator. There is a focus on the negatives which happened a long time ago, and not the positives. Bit by bit, they add up to give the impression that the UK is a nasty place full of horrible, racist people,even though those crimes were committed by a tiny minority. This might be tolerable if they also compared it with wrongs by other cultures in a similar era, like the oppression of the Ottoman Empire with the Devishirme and Armenian Genocide, Ghengis Khan and his crimes, the mass executions and famines during the French revolution, Russian revolution and USSR and the Great Leap Forward in China conducted by the left. However those are completely absent from the classrooms. There is no balance. It is all one sided. Britain bad, other cultures good. They never mention the positives of what Britain did. " youve just described lots of ppl on here lol | |||
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"The lefties are taking over the asylum lol Your a labour lefty foxy .Tell the truth ..Just not as far left as comrade Corbyn.. bob no one is as far left as as Corbyn you just know politics is fucked when neither me nor you can vote for the party we want to bob lol I blame Brexit you blame Karl Marx. " karl Marx iv nether met the man lol | |||
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"The lefties are taking over the asylum lol Your a labour lefty foxy .Tell the truth ..Just not as far left as comrade Corbyn.. bob no one is as far left as as Corbyn you just know politics is fucked when neither me nor you can vote for the party we want to bob lol I blame Brexit you blame Karl Marx. karl Marx iv nether met the man lol" Russian guy who wants your house and everyone to be equally poor..It’s a heavy read to be honest and there are no dragons in his book. | |||
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"A further point if you use the word identity politics while identifying those on the left you dislike .., Waiting until you actually discuss the main points instead of failing to be funny repeatedly. You didn't make any points to address. They are in the OP related to the article. I see a rant about hating Britain and some other stuff which suggests that you've completely missed the point. How are we supposed to address stuff like "So they plan to teach every student how awful Britain is and how to hate it and themselves for colonialism". Maybe you could tell us how you managed to twist this around? What part of what they said led you to this conclusion? Good question. It's because of how they deal with this in schools and universities. I've seen it personally, both when I was at uni, and later as an educator. There is a focus on the negatives which happened a long time ago, and not the positives. Bit by bit, they add up to give the impression that the UK is a nasty place full of horrible, racist people,even though those crimes were committed by a tiny minority. This might be tolerable if they also compared it with wrongs by other cultures in a similar era, like the oppression of the Ottoman Empire with the Devishirme and Armenian Genocide, Ghengis Khan and his crimes, the mass executions and famines during the French revolution, Russian revolution and USSR and the Great Leap Forward in China conducted by the left. However those are completely absent from the classrooms. There is no balance. It is all one sided. Britain bad, other cultures good. They never mention the positives of what Britain did. " So your personal experience. Which was different to mine. We learned about the first and second world wars. It's important to teach about the British empire. There simply isn't enough time to teach world history for every country. And seeing as it's in the UK, it makes sense to talk about the British empire, as it played it's part in shaping the country. So what was it about this Labour piece that made you so angry? | |||
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"I’m sure Labout will be putting out a statement soon that the uk will pay £100 billion compo to some country for a crime against them a thousand yrs ago and how we should all feel bad about it lol" If there’s blame then there’s a claim.Just ask the Jews and Volkswagen.. | |||
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"I’m sure Labout will be putting out a statement soon that the uk will pay £100 billion compo to some country for a crime against them a thousand yrs ago and how we should all feel bad about it lol If there’s blame then there’s a claim.Just ask the Jews and Volkswagen.. " im waiting for a Viking to claim the locals in Northumbria pissed in his soup and it made him ill He be in for a fortune if labour get in | |||
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" So what was it about this Labour piece that made you so angry?" 1. The injection of grievance culture and identity politics into UK policy. And yes, if you create a department for BAME in the treasury and user that to affect policy, then you are playing identity politics. 2. The institutionalisation of "US" and "THEM" mentality, creating divisions in society which are harmful for social cohesion. Instead of saying "you are all British" and our policies will affect people based on their individual circumstances, they are dividing camps into "white British" and "ethnics" and putting them at loggerheads with each other, despite this being one of the least racist countries on earth. We fought to erase those divisions, and Labour is bringing them back and institutionalising them. It used to be rich vs poor. Now its straight whites vs everyone else. It's just so toxic. 3. The double racism this brings. It associates whites with racism and oppression. And it associates us ethnic minorities with being too poor/stupid/unable to hack it by ourselves and in need of help. The bigotry of lower expectations. "I look to a day when people will not be judged by the color of their skin, but by the content of their character." If it was good enough for MLK to live by, then it's good enough for me. That's my issue. Their arguments are inherently divisive and racist, and are designed by people who want to stoke up trouble and division in order to gain power. Divide and Conquer is their policy. I believe that in one country people should stand unified in a common purpose to improve the lives of everyone in the country. Not divide themselves into groups. This mentality is also helping the far right. If ethnic and sexual minorities play identity politics, then so will whites. It's the opposite side of the same coin. | |||
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"I’m sure Labout will be putting out a statement soon that the uk will pay £100 billion compo to some country for a crime against them a thousand yrs ago and how we should all feel bad about it lol If there’s blame then there’s a claim.Just ask the Jews and Volkswagen.. im waiting for a Viking to claim the locals in Northumbria pissed in his soup and it made him ill He be in for a fortune if labour get in " As a remainer I will be putting in a cliaim if Brexit goes tits up... If there’s blame then there’s a claim. | |||
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"I’m sure Labout will be putting out a statement soon that the uk will pay £100 billion compo to some country for a crime against them a thousand yrs ago and how we should all feel bad about it lol If there’s blame then there’s a claim.Just ask the Jews and Volkswagen.. im waiting for a Viking to claim the locals in Northumbria pissed in his soup and it made him ill He be in for a fortune if labour get in As a remainer I will be putting in a cliaim if Brexit goes tits up... If there’s blame then there’s a claim. " dont know how you sat moan bob you live on the south coast it’s easily ten degrees warmer there than up here you are a spit from the sea you’ve got a boat you would have fuck all to spend yr claim on iffffff you won it anyway | |||
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"Country despatches military force to seize land, install puppet government, impose its laws on indigenous population and take away their resources. Yep, nothing to see here, guv (Germany, I'm talking Germany, btw) " . There's about five old fellas left from that escapade, why don't you nip over and correct their thinking. | |||
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"I’m sure Labout will be putting out a statement soon that the uk will pay £100 billion compo to some country for a crime against them a thousand yrs ago and how we should all feel bad about it lol If there’s blame then there’s a claim.Just ask the Jews and Volkswagen.. im waiting for a Viking to claim the locals in Northumbria pissed in his soup and it made him ill He be in for a fortune if labour get in " | |||
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"I’m sure Labout will be putting out a statement soon that the uk will pay £100 billion compo to some country for a crime against them a thousand yrs ago and how we should all feel bad about it lol If there’s blame then there’s a claim.Just ask the Jews and Volkswagen.. im waiting for a Viking to claim the locals in Northumbria pissed in his soup and it made him ill He be in for a fortune if labour get in As a remainer I will be putting in a cliaim if Brexit goes tits up... If there’s blame then there’s a claim. dont know how you sat moan bob you live on the south coast it’s easily ten degrees warmer there than up here you are a spit from the sea you’ve got a boat you would have fuck all to spend yr claim on iffffff you won it anyway " Ive told you before to move down here once the kids leave home.. Regarding my Brexit claim against leavers .. There is never enough champagne... There is nothing quite like quaffing champers and talking about socialism watching the sun go down over the harbour with my multicultural friends and family. It’s what we do ,don’t you know. | |||
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"The lefties are taking over the asylum lol Your a labour lefty foxy .Tell the truth ..Just not as far left as comrade Corbyn.. bob no one is as far left as as Corbyn you just know politics is fucked when neither me nor you can vote for the party we want to bob lol I blame Brexit you blame Karl Marx. karl Marx iv nether met the man lol Russian guy who wants your house and everyone to be equally poor..It’s a heavy read to be honest and there are no dragons in his book. " He was German, not Russian. Just saying. | |||
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"The lefties are taking over the asylum lol Your a labour lefty foxy .Tell the truth ..Just not as far left as comrade Corbyn.. bob no one is as far left as as Corbyn you just know politics is fucked when neither me nor you can vote for the party we want to bob lol I blame Brexit you blame Karl Marx. karl Marx iv nether met the man lol Russian guy who wants your house and everyone to be equally poor..It’s a heavy read to be honest and there are no dragons in his book. He was German, not Russian. Just saying. " Nobody likes an expert with facts in post truth Britain. Next you’ll be saying he was buried in London and was a nice fellow and not the communist godfather of the Soviet Union and the Labour Party. | |||
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" That's my issue. Their arguments are inherently divisive and racist, and are designed by people who want to stoke up trouble and division in order to gain power. Divide and Conquer is their policy. I believe that in one country people should stand unified in a common purpose to improve the lives of everyone in the country. Not divide themselves into groups. This mentality is also helping the far right. If ethnic and sexual minorities play identity politics, then so will whites. It's the opposite side of the same coin. " Paranoid, bizarre nonsense. Teaching the harm that the British Empire did is not in any way divisive, unless you're an incredibly fragile individual that can't hear anything negative about a culture and history you're associated with without taking it massively personally. Funny to see you approvingly quote MLK - he was against exactly the kind of 'don't talk about racism, don't rock the boat' attitude you're exposing. He wrote: "First, I must confess that over the past few years I have been gravely disappointed with the white moderate. I have almost reached the regrettable conclusion that the Negro’s great stumbling block in his stride toward freedom is not the White Citizen’s Council-er or the Ku Klux Klanner, but the white moderate, who is more devoted to “order” than to justice; who prefers a negative peace which is the absence of tension to a positive peace which is the presence of justice; who constantly says: “I agree with you in the goal you seek, but I cannot agree with your methods of direct action”; who paternalistically believes he can set the timetable for another man’s freedom; who lives by a mythical concept of time and who constantly advises the Negro to wait for a “more convenient season.” Shallow understanding from people of good will is more frustrating than absolute misunderstanding from people of ill will. Lukewarm acceptance is much more bewildering than outright rejection." | |||
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" That's my issue. Their arguments are inherently divisive and racist, and are designed by people who want to stoke up trouble and division in order to gain power. Divide and Conquer is their policy. I believe that in one country people should stand unified in a common purpose to improve the lives of everyone in the country. Not divide themselves into groups. This mentality is also helping the far right. If ethnic and sexual minorities play identity politics, then so will whites. It's the opposite side of the same coin. Paranoid, bizarre nonsense. Teaching the harm that the British Empire did is not in any way divisive, unless you're an incredibly fragile individual that can't hear anything negative about a culture and history you're associated with without taking it massively personally. Funny to see you approvingly quote MLK - he was against exactly the kind of 'don't talk about racism, don't rock the boat' attitude you're exposing. He wrote: "First, I must confess that over the past few years I have been gravely disappointed with the white moderate. I have almost reached the regrettable conclusion that the Negro’s great stumbling block in his stride toward freedom is not the White Citizen’s Council-er or the Ku Klux Klanner, but the white moderate, who is more devoted to “order” than to justice; who prefers a negative peace which is the absence of tension to a positive peace which is the presence of justice; who constantly says: “I agree with you in the goal you seek, but I cannot agree with your methods of direct action”; who paternalistically believes he can set the timetable for another man’s freedom; who lives by a mythical concept of time and who constantly advises the Negro to wait for a “more convenient season.” Shallow understanding from people of good will is more frustrating than absolute misunderstanding from people of ill will. Lukewarm acceptance is much more bewildering than outright rejection." " . Empires are bad, do they teach how awful the Persian one was? Assyrian, ottoman, Mongolian, Roman,Mali, massina, Chinese, Japanese, Ethiopian?. Or is it just white ones that are bad and need teaching | |||
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" So what was it about this Labour piece that made you so angry? 1. The injection of grievance culture and identity politics into UK policy. And yes, if you create a department for BAME in the treasury and user that to affect policy, then you are playing identity politics. 2. The institutionalisation of "US" and "THEM" mentality, creating divisions in society which are harmful for social cohesion. Instead of saying "you are all British" and our policies will affect people based on their individual circumstances, they are dividing camps into "white British" and "ethnics" and putting them at loggerheads with each other, despite this being one of the least racist countries on earth. We fought to erase those divisions, and Labour is bringing them back and institutionalising them. It used to be rich vs poor. Now its straight whites vs everyone else. It's just so toxic. 3. The double racism this brings. It associates whites with racism and oppression. And it associates us ethnic minorities with being too poor/stupid/unable to hack it by ourselves and in need of help. The bigotry of lower expectations. "I look to a day when people will not be judged by the color of their skin, but by the content of their character." If it was good enough for MLK to live by, then it's good enough for me. That's my issue. Their arguments are inherently divisive and racist, and are designed by people who want to stoke up trouble and division in order to gain power. Divide and Conquer is their policy. I believe that in one country people should stand unified in a common purpose to improve the lives of everyone in the country. Not divide themselves into groups. This mentality is also helping the far right. If ethnic and sexual minorities play identity politics, then so will whites. It's the opposite side of the same coin. " Okay. So now you have made proper points. Your first post wasn't anything like this, and you attacked people for commenting to that effect. I don't agree with any of this. But at least what you wrote makes sense. There are real problems in society. Like, actual racism, for example. This just seems to be not really a thing, and/or inconsequential. | |||
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" So what was it about this Labour piece that made you so angry? 1. The injection of grievance culture and identity politics into UK policy. And yes, if you create a department for BAME in the treasury and user that to affect policy, then you are playing identity politics. 2. The institutionalisation of "US" and "THEM" mentality, creating divisions in society which are harmful for social cohesion. Instead of saying "you are all British" and our policies will affect people based on their individual circumstances, they are dividing camps into "white British" and "ethnics" and putting them at loggerheads with each other, despite this being one of the least racist countries on earth. We fought to erase those divisions, and Labour is bringing them back and institutionalising them. It used to be rich vs poor. Now its straight whites vs everyone else. It's just so toxic. 3. The double racism this brings. It associates whites with racism and oppression. And it associates us ethnic minorities with being too poor/stupid/unable to hack it by ourselves and in need of help. The bigotry of lower expectations. "I look to a day when people will not be judged by the color of their skin, but by the content of their character." If it was good enough for MLK to live by, then it's good enough for me. That's my issue. Their arguments are inherently divisive and racist, and are designed by people who want to stoke up trouble and division in order to gain power. Divide and Conquer is their policy. I believe that in one country people should stand unified in a common purpose to improve the lives of everyone in the country. Not divide themselves into groups. This mentality is also helping the far right. If ethnic and sexual minorities play identity politics, then so will whites. It's the opposite side of the same coin. Okay. So now you have made proper points. Your first post wasn't anything like this, and you attacked people for commenting to that effect. I don't agree with any of this. But at least what you wrote makes sense. There are real problems in society. Like, actual racism, for example. This just seems to be not really a thing, and/or inconsequential." We must realise that some people are easily offended and feel hurt by mean pants leftists and their “ equality agenda .” We should all be mindful of their sensitivities... Free hugs from Bob | |||
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"I’m sure Labout will be putting out a statement soon that the uk will pay £100 billion compo to some country for a crime against them a thousand yrs ago and how we should all feel bad about it lol If there’s blame then there’s a claim.Just ask the Jews and Volkswagen.. im waiting for a Viking to claim the locals in Northumbria pissed in his soup and it made him ill He be in for a fortune if labour get in As a remainer I will be putting in a cliaim if Brexit goes tits up... If there’s blame then there’s a claim. dont know how you sat moan bob you live on the south coast it’s easily ten degrees warmer there than up here you are a spit from the sea you’ve got a boat you would have fuck all to spend yr claim on iffffff you won it anyway Ive told you before to move down here once the kids leave home.. Regarding my Brexit claim against leavers .. There is never enough champagne... There is nothing quite like quaffing champers and talking about socialism watching the sun go down over the harbour with my multicultural friends and family. It’s what we do ,don’t you know. " pmsl bob you’d have to much to drink tell them all I voted leave and howl as they chased me along the beach I’ll stay were in safe thanx lol | |||
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"I’m sure Labout will be putting out a statement soon that the uk will pay £100 billion compo to some country for a crime against them a thousand yrs ago and how we should all feel bad about it lol If there’s blame then there’s a claim.Just ask the Jews and Volkswagen.. im waiting for a Viking to claim the locals in Northumbria pissed in his soup and it made him ill He be in for a fortune if labour get in As a remainer I will be putting in a cliaim if Brexit goes tits up... If there’s blame then there’s a claim. dont know how you sat moan bob you live on the south coast it’s easily ten degrees warmer there than up here you are a spit from the sea you’ve got a boat you would have fuck all to spend yr claim on iffffff you won it anyway Ive told you before to move down here once the kids leave home.. Regarding my Brexit claim against leavers .. There is never enough champagne... There is nothing quite like quaffing champers and talking about socialism watching the sun go down over the harbour with my multicultural friends and family. It’s what we do ,don’t you know. pmsl bob you’d have to much to drink tell them all I voted leave and howl as they chased me along the beach I’ll stay were in safe thanx lol" Youll be fine this year.. We’ve stopped burning leavers in a wicker man on the beach .As the remainer lefty green council complained it wasn’t carbon neutral and alternative ways of winning the second referendum were needed.. | |||
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" So what was it about this Labour piece that made you so angry? 1. The injection of grievance culture and identity politics into UK policy. And yes, if you create a department for BAME in the treasury and user that to affect policy, then you are playing identity politics. 2. The institutionalisation of "US" and "THEM" mentality, creating divisions in society which are harmful for social cohesion. Instead of saying "you are all British" and our policies will affect people based on their individual circumstances, they are dividing camps into "white British" and "ethnics" and putting them at loggerheads with each other, despite this being one of the least racist countries on earth. We fought to erase those divisions, and Labour is bringing them back and institutionalising them. It used to be rich vs poor. Now its straight whites vs everyone else. It's just so toxic. 3. The double racism this brings. It associates whites with racism and oppression. And it associates us ethnic minorities with being too poor/stupid/unable to hack it by ourselves and in need of help. The bigotry of lower expectations. "I look to a day when people will not be judged by the color of their skin, but by the content of their character." If it was good enough for MLK to live by, then it's good enough for me. That's my issue. Their arguments are inherently divisive and racist, and are designed by people who want to stoke up trouble and division in order to gain power. Divide and Conquer is their policy. I believe that in one country people should stand unified in a common purpose to improve the lives of everyone in the country. Not divide themselves into groups. This mentality is also helping the far right. If ethnic and sexual minorities play identity politics, then so will whites. It's the opposite side of the same coin. Okay. So now you have made proper points. Your first post wasn't anything like this, and you attacked people for commenting to that effect. I don't agree with any of this. But at least what you wrote makes sense. There are real problems in society. Like, actual racism, for example. This just seems to be not really a thing, and/or inconsequential. We must realise that some people are easily offended and feel hurt by mean pants leftists and their “ equality agenda .” We should all be mindful of their sensitivities... Free hugs from Bob " Do I get a Bob-Hug too? | |||
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"The OP keeps bringing up their own skin colour, yet insists that skin colour ought to be irrelevant, but makes clear elsewhere skin colour is very important to them. I'm outta here." . So you should be honky, this is a coloured only discussion and luckily for me I self identify as Eskimo. | |||
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"Of course! I have a lot of love to give to both sides . . So much lovin and still can't get a date. Way of the world " Here have a bob hug.. | |||
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"I’m sure Labout will be putting out a statement soon that the uk will pay £100 billion compo to some country for a crime against them a thousand yrs ago and how we should all feel bad about it lol If there’s blame then there’s a claim.Just ask the Jews and Volkswagen.. im waiting for a Viking to claim the locals in Northumbria pissed in his soup and it made him ill He be in for a fortune if labour get in As a remainer I will be putting in a cliaim if Brexit goes tits up... If there’s blame then there’s a claim. dont know how you sat moan bob you live on the south coast it’s easily ten degrees warmer there than up here you are a spit from the sea you’ve got a boat you would have fuck all to spend yr claim on iffffff you won it anyway Ive told you before to move down here once the kids leave home.. Regarding my Brexit claim against leavers .. There is never enough champagne... There is nothing quite like quaffing champers and talking about socialism watching the sun go down over the harbour with my multicultural friends and family. It’s what we do ,don’t you know. pmsl bob you’d have to much to drink tell them all I voted leave and howl as they chased me along the beach I’ll stay were in safe thanx lolYoull be fine this year.. We’ve stopped burning leavers in a wicker man on the beach .As the remainer lefty green council complained it wasn’t carbon neutral and alternative ways of winning the second referendum were needed.. " haha yr own fault bob you voted the greens in you know they spoil all the fun | |||
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"So, bypassing the comments made, do all of you here honestly believe that it's fair that we learn the positives and negatives of other countries but only focus on the positives of the UK whilst glossing over the negatives?" ffs know one ever glosses over negatives of the uk that’s all ppl talk about to listen to them you would think we were north korea and never done a good thing in the world | |||
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"So, bypassing the comments made, do all of you here honestly believe that it's fair that we learn the positives and negatives of other countries but only focus on the positives of the UK whilst glossing over the negatives?" That sounds fair to me. I mean we wouldn't want our kids growing up thinking Johnny Foreigner was just as good as us or that God wasn't in fact really an English man, would we? | |||
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"If you don’t like the British way off life and do nothing but point out the negatives , why don’t you fuck off to North Korea, Venezuela , Russia to be with all your murdering lunatic corrupt comrades" Someone is rattled again | |||
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"If you don’t like the British way off life and do nothing but point out the negatives , why don’t you fuck off to North Korea, Venezuela , Russia to be with all your murdering lunatic corrupt comrades Someone is rattled again " Never mind the fact that Corbyn took the side of Russia /Putin in the Salisbury poisoning and sided with Putin when Putin ordered the shooting down of flight MH17 | |||
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"If you don’t like the British way off life and do nothing but point out the negatives , why don’t you fuck off to North Korea, Venezuela , Russia to be with all your murdering lunatic corrupt comrades Someone is rattled again Never mind the fact that Corbyn took the side of Russia /Putin in the Salisbury poisoning and sided with Putin when Putin ordered the shooting down of flight MH17" Amazing....how do you come up with them....tell us another one | |||
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"If you don’t like the British way off life and do nothing but point out the negatives , why don’t you fuck off to North Korea, Venezuela , Russia to be with all your murdering lunatic corrupt comrades Someone is rattled again Never mind the fact that Corbyn took the side of Russia /Putin in the Salisbury poisoning and sided with Putin when Putin ordered the shooting down of flight MH17" | |||
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"If you don’t like the British way off life and do nothing but point out the negatives , why don’t you fuck off to North Korea, Venezuela , Russia to be with all your murdering lunatic corrupt comrades Someone is rattled again Never mind the fact that Corbyn took the side of Russia /Putin in the Salisbury poisoning and sided with Putin when Putin ordered the shooting down of flight MH17 Amazing....how do you come up with them....tell us another one " I listen to the words Corbyn speaks from his yellow mouth. You should try listening too | |||
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"If you don’t like the British way off life and do nothing but point out the negatives , why don’t you fuck off to North Korea, Venezuela , Russia to be with all your murdering lunatic corrupt comrades Someone is rattled again Never mind the fact that Corbyn took the side of Russia /Putin in the Salisbury poisoning and sided with Putin when Putin ordered the shooting down of flight MH17 Amazing....how do you come up with them....tell us another one I listen to the words Corbyn speaks from his yellow mouth. You should try listening too" Not anything I have seen or heard but maybe it’s different for real men? | |||
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"If you don’t like the British way off life and do nothing but point out the negatives , why don’t you fuck off to North Korea, Venezuela , Russia to be with all your murdering lunatic corrupt comrades Someone is rattled again Never mind the fact that Corbyn took the side of Russia /Putin in the Salisbury poisoning and sided with Putin when Putin ordered the shooting down of flight MH17 Amazing....how do you come up with them....tell us another one I listen to the words Corbyn speaks from his yellow mouth. You should try listening too" Are you ok? You seem a bit tense | |||
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"If you don’t like the British way off life and do nothing but point out the negatives , why don’t you fuck off to North Korea, Venezuela , Russia to be with all your murdering lunatic corrupt comrades Someone is rattled again Never mind the fact that Corbyn took the side of Russia /Putin in the Salisbury poisoning and sided with Putin when Putin ordered the shooting down of flight MH17 Amazing....how do you come up with them....tell us another one I listen to the words Corbyn speaks from his yellow mouth. You should try listening too Not anything I have seen or heard but maybe it’s different for real men? " No doubt people like you have never heard about anti semites in the Labour Party . It’s really not that long ago that May explained it was Russian agents who carried out the poisoning on live TV only for Corbyn to suggest instead it was russian mafia members . I think it’s called selective deafness. Same for the russian shooting down of MH17. Couldn’t possibly be Putin ....I mean, he’s my mate..... had to be separatists somehow getting hold of those pesky russian missiles. | |||
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"If you don’t like the British way off life and do nothing but point out the negatives , why don’t you fuck off to North Korea, Venezuela , Russia to be with all your murdering lunatic corrupt comrades Someone is rattled again Never mind the fact that Corbyn took the side of Russia /Putin in the Salisbury poisoning and sided with Putin when Putin ordered the shooting down of flight MH17 Amazing....how do you come up with them....tell us another one I listen to the words Corbyn speaks from his yellow mouth. You should try listening too Not anything I have seen or heard but maybe it’s different for real men? No doubt people like you have never heard about anti semites in the Labour Party . It’s really not that long ago that May explained it was Russian agents who carried out the poisoning on live TV only for Corbyn to suggest instead it was russian mafia members . I think it’s called selective deafness. Same for the russian shooting down of MH17. Couldn’t possibly be Putin ....I mean, he’s my mate..... had to be separatists somehow getting hold of those pesky russian missiles. " Who is a mate of Putin? | |||
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"If you don’t like the British way off life and do nothing but point out the negatives , why don’t you fuck off to North Korea, Venezuela , Russia to be with all your murdering lunatic corrupt comrades Someone is rattled again Never mind the fact that Corbyn took the side of Russia /Putin in the Salisbury poisoning and sided with Putin when Putin ordered the shooting down of flight MH17 Amazing....how do you come up with them....tell us another one I listen to the words Corbyn speaks from his yellow mouth. You should try listening too Not anything I have seen or heard but maybe it’s different for real men? No doubt people like you have never heard about anti semites in the Labour Party . It’s really not that long ago that May explained it was Russian agents who carried out the poisoning on live TV only for Corbyn to suggest instead it was russian mafia members . I think it’s called selective deafness. Same for the russian shooting down of MH17. Couldn’t possibly be Putin ....I mean, he’s my mate..... had to be separatists somehow getting hold of those pesky russian missiles. Who is a mate of Putin? " Corbyn - duh | |||
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"If you don’t like the British way off life and do nothing but point out the negatives , why don’t you fuck off to North Korea, Venezuela , Russia to be with all your murdering lunatic corrupt comrades Someone is rattled again Never mind the fact that Corbyn took the side of Russia /Putin in the Salisbury poisoning and sided with Putin when Putin ordered the shooting down of flight MH17 Amazing....how do you come up with them....tell us another one I listen to the words Corbyn speaks from his yellow mouth. You should try listening too Not anything I have seen or heard but maybe it’s different for real men? No doubt people like you have never heard about anti semites in the Labour Party . It’s really not that long ago that May explained it was Russian agents who carried out the poisoning on live TV only for Corbyn to suggest instead it was russian mafia members . I think it’s called selective deafness. Same for the russian shooting down of MH17. Couldn’t possibly be Putin ....I mean, he’s my mate..... had to be separatists somehow getting hold of those pesky russian missiles. Who is a mate of Putin? Corbyn - duh" Good, what is wrong being friendly with Putin? I like Russian people, | |||
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"If you don’t like the British way off life and do nothing but point out the negatives , why don’t you fuck off to North Korea, Venezuela , Russia to be with all your murdering lunatic corrupt comrades Someone is rattled again Never mind the fact that Corbyn took the side of Russia /Putin in the Salisbury poisoning and sided with Putin when Putin ordered the shooting down of flight MH17 Amazing....how do you come up with them....tell us another one I listen to the words Corbyn speaks from his yellow mouth. You should try listening too Not anything I have seen or heard but maybe it’s different for real men? No doubt people like you have never heard about anti semites in the Labour Party . It’s really not that long ago that May explained it was Russian agents who carried out the poisoning on live TV only for Corbyn to suggest instead it was russian mafia members . I think it’s called selective deafness. Same for the russian shooting down of MH17. Couldn’t possibly be Putin ....I mean, he’s my mate..... had to be separatists somehow getting hold of those pesky russian missiles. Who is a mate of Putin? Corbyn - duh Good, what is wrong being friendly with Putin? I like Russian people, " Hmmm....do you need to top up your medication by any chance? | |||
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"If you don’t like the British way off life and do nothing but point out the negatives , why don’t you fuck off to North Korea, Venezuela , Russia to be with all your murdering lunatic corrupt comrades Someone is rattled again Never mind the fact that Corbyn took the side of Russia /Putin in the Salisbury poisoning and sided with Putin when Putin ordered the shooting down of flight MH17 Amazing....how do you come up with them....tell us another one I listen to the words Corbyn speaks from his yellow mouth. You should try listening too Not anything I have seen or heard but maybe it’s different for real men? No doubt people like you have never heard about anti semites in the Labour Party . It’s really not that long ago that May explained it was Russian agents who carried out the poisoning on live TV only for Corbyn to suggest instead it was russian mafia members . I think it’s called selective deafness. Same for the russian shooting down of MH17. Couldn’t possibly be Putin ....I mean, he’s my mate..... had to be separatists somehow getting hold of those pesky russian missiles. Who is a mate of Putin? Corbyn - duh Good, what is wrong being friendly with Putin? I like Russian people, Hmmm....do you need to top up your medication by any chance? " Not at all? What is wrong with the Russians? | |||
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"If you don’t like the British way off life and do nothing but point out the negatives , why don’t you fuck off to North Korea, Venezuela , Russia to be with all your murdering lunatic corrupt comrades Someone is rattled again Never mind the fact that Corbyn took the side of Russia /Putin in the Salisbury poisoning and sided with Putin when Putin ordered the shooting down of flight MH17 Amazing....how do you come up with them....tell us another one I listen to the words Corbyn speaks from his yellow mouth. You should try listening too Not anything I have seen or heard but maybe it’s different for real men? No doubt people like you have never heard about anti semites in the Labour Party . It’s really not that long ago that May explained it was Russian agents who carried out the poisoning on live TV only for Corbyn to suggest instead it was russian mafia members . I think it’s called selective deafness. Same for the russian shooting down of MH17. Couldn’t possibly be Putin ....I mean, he’s my mate..... had to be separatists somehow getting hold of those pesky russian missiles. Who is a mate of Putin? Corbyn - duh Good, what is wrong being friendly with Putin? I like Russian people, Hmmm....do you need to top up your medication by any chance? Not at all? What is wrong with the Russians? " Apologies....that was meant for our Belfast friend.... | |||
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"If you don’t like the British way off life and do nothing but point out the negatives , why don’t you fuck off to North Korea, Venezuela , Russia to be with all your murdering lunatic corrupt comrades Someone is rattled again Never mind the fact that Corbyn took the side of Russia /Putin in the Salisbury poisoning and sided with Putin when Putin ordered the shooting down of flight MH17 Amazing....how do you come up with them....tell us another one I listen to the words Corbyn speaks from his yellow mouth. You should try listening too Not anything I have seen or heard but maybe it’s different for real men? No doubt people like you have never heard about anti semites in the Labour Party . It’s really not that long ago that May explained it was Russian agents who carried out the poisoning on live TV only for Corbyn to suggest instead it was russian mafia members . I think it’s called selective deafness. Same for the russian shooting down of MH17. Couldn’t possibly be Putin ....I mean, he’s my mate..... had to be separatists somehow getting hold of those pesky russian missiles. Who is a mate of Putin? Corbyn - duh Good, what is wrong being friendly with Putin? I like Russian people, Hmmm....do you need to top up your medication by any chance? Not at all? What is wrong with the Russians? Apologies....that was meant for our Belfast friend.... " | |||
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"Honestly, both right and left are bloody stupid. The left call the right Nazis which is funny considering the Nazis where socialist which is actually left wing. Right wing people call the left snowflakes even though they get just as offended seeing two women or two men cuddle each other. Both sides are pretty much fucked, and both sides need to stop being such Hippocrates." This. How hard is it to see that both left and right wing are full of liars? | |||
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"Honestly, both right and left are bloody stupid. The left call the right Nazis which is funny considering the Nazis where socialist which is actually left wing. Right wing people call the left snowflakes even though they get just as offended seeing two women or two men cuddle each other. Both sides are pretty much fucked, and both sides need to stop being such Hippocrates." The Nazis were fascists. Not socialists. Don't fall for this old chestnut. | |||
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"Honestly, both right and left are bloody stupid. The left call the right Nazis which is funny considering the Nazis where socialist which is actually left wing. Right wing people call the left snowflakes even though they get just as offended seeing two women or two men cuddle each other. Both sides are pretty much fucked, and both sides need to stop being such Hippocrates." Thats the trouble with labels though isn’t it - its a bit like the “one nation tories” - the nation they are interested in is an old boys club and the vision they have is the status quo but not quite as good as last year. | |||
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"Honestly, both right and left are bloody stupid. The left call the right Nazis which is funny considering the Nazis where socialist which is actually left wing. Right wing people call the left snowflakes even though they get just as offended seeing two women or two men cuddle each other. Both sides are pretty much fucked, and both sides need to stop being such Hippocrates." who on earth gets offended seeing two women cuddle I get a pulse every time I see that lol | |||
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