FabSwingers.com forum: Free broad band beware full censorship will follow

By *ncutgem OP Man
over a year ago

Bath ish

Not into politics or parties But make NO mistake the party of giveaways sweeteners will give you censorship and ban all sorts and I dont mean liquorice

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Yeah we know its a crock of impossibly expensive bullshit

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By *tingly ByronMan
over a year ago

In a town Fab forgot

"Not into politics or parties But make NO mistake the party of giveaways sweeteners will give you censorship and ban all sorts and I dont mean liquorice"

How will the providers who currently charge for broadband be compensated for their losses?

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By *ocbigMan
over a year ago

Birmingham

I suspect there will be (in the unlikely event of this happening) something like a high speed ‘ business ‘ internet, banking, appointments etc to cater for those who have issues with broadband & a non business for gaming, streaming etc that is paid for...if such technologies exist to split functions

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By *ust PeachyWoman
over a year ago

Prestonish

"Not into politics or parties But make NO mistake the party of giveaways sweeteners will give you censorship and ban all sorts and I dont mean liquorice

How will the providers who currently charge for broadband be compensated for their losses?"

But Boris promised!!!

Surely we’ll get it straight after all the new hospitals he promised us during the Brexit campaigns?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Not into politics or parties But make NO mistake the party of giveaways sweeteners will give you censorship and ban all sorts and I dont mean liquorice

How will the providers who currently charge for broadband be compensated for their losses?"
exactamundo between sky and virgin alone both companys were bought out for sky $39bn €18bn so it wont be cheap just them 2 alone not to mention bt talk talk and the rest its a growing market

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By *tingly ByronMan
over a year ago

In a town Fab forgot

"Not into politics or parties But make NO mistake the party of giveaways sweeteners will give you censorship and ban all sorts and I dont mean liquorice

How will the providers who currently charge for broadband be compensated for their losses?

But Boris promised!!!

Surely we’ll get it straight after all the new hospitals he promised us during the Brexit campaigns?

Was it Boris or the other idiot?

Not that it matters, it'll never happen...

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By *ara JTV/TS
over a year ago

Bristol East

I think it's a bit like the railways - the track belongs to the public, and the trains that run on them belong to commercial companies.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Its the infrastructure thats most important to get the speeds not being promised it for free just get it working that fast first

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By *ittleAcornMan
over a year ago

visiting the beach

"Not into politics or parties But make NO mistake the party of giveaways sweeteners will give you censorship and ban all sorts and I dont mean liquorice

This Government tried for that without it being free.

On what do you base your certainty?

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By *oupleforxtrafunCouple
over a year ago

Nottingham

It would never happen never free Internet for everyone at a cost of 100 million LOL BT is worth 5 billion how does that work then

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Not into politics or parties But make NO mistake the party of giveaways sweeteners will give you censorship and ban all sorts and I dont mean liquorice

How will the providers who currently charge for broadband be compensated for their losses?

But Boris promised!!!

Surely we’ll get it straight after all the new hospitals he promised us during the Brexit campaigns?

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it was corbin btw

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By *tingly ByronMan
over a year ago

In a town Fab forgot

"Not into politics or parties But make NO mistake the party of giveaways sweeteners will give you censorship and ban all sorts and I dont mean liquorice

How will the providers who currently charge for broadband be compensated for their losses?

But Boris promised!!!

Surely we’ll get it straight after all the new hospitals he promised us during the Brexit campaigns?

it was corbin btw"

I thought it was.

Can't see the problem myself, Dianne Abbot did the financial projections, I'm sure it'll all up.

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By *VineMan
over a year ago

The right place

I don’t see why it can’t work. Other countries have free broadband. And when we say free, it’s not, it’s just paid for from taxation. Rather than my money going to Richard Branson, I’d be paying for a national service. If I stopped paying £360 a year to virgin and payed a little bit more tax I wouldn’t mind. It’s swings and roundabouts.

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By *est Wales WifeCouple
over a year ago

Near Carmarthen

With the corporations already looking to overthrow net neutrality what ever makes you think that it it's not going to be censored/restricted anyway?

The idea of taking broadband under public ownership is to ensure that the whole country gets 'fit for purpose' infrastructure for everyone. People forget that rural dwellers like me only get 0.5 Mb/S because 'we are not worth it'.

Quite why people see this as some communist plot 'god only knows' last time I looked we had free (maintained at public expense) roads for everyone to use and a free health service for everyone to use (although the Tories want to flog that off to the corporations).

Britain lags way behind in national broadband infrastructure because of our fragmented market driven approach.

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By *ara JTV/TS
over a year ago

Bristol East

Yes, can you imagine if someone in 2019 suggested taking healthcare into public ownership and creating a National Health Service.

They'd be called a communist, a Marxist, an enemy of the state blah blah.

It's quite extraordinary

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By *hatYorkLadMan
over a year ago

York

Whoever controls the media controls the message, and how much is magic grandpa going to pay to buy out all the competition?

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By *rwhowhatwherewhyMan
over a year ago

Aylesbury

Probably, at least the porn block has been put to bed though

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Not into politics or parties But make NO mistake the party of giveaways sweeteners will give you censorship and ban all sorts and I dont mean liquorice

How will the providers who currently charge for broadband be compensated for their losses?

But Boris promised!!!

Surely we’ll get it straight after all the new hospitals he promised us during the Brexit campaigns?

it was corbin btw

I thought it was.

Can't see the problem myself, Dianne Abbot did the financial projections, I'm sure it'll all up.

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By *ethnmelvCouple
over a year ago

Cardiff

"Not into politics or parties But make NO mistake the party of giveaways sweeteners will give you censorship and ban all sorts and I dont mean liquorice

How will the providers who currently charge for broadband be compensated for their losses?

But Boris promised!!!

Surely we’ll get it straight after all the new hospitals he promised us during the Brexit campaigns?

& the 50,000 nurses that won’t happen either. It will just be another dose of Austerity

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By *ncutgem OP Man
over a year ago

Bath ish

your all missing the word

CENSORSHIP

they will stop porn stop fab stop fun etc

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By *ittleAcornMan
over a year ago

visiting the beach

"your all missing the word

CENSORSHIP

they will stop porn stop fab stop fun etc

You don't need state ownership to do that. It nearly happened recently without.

... and it was the Tories trying.

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By *VineMan
over a year ago

The right place

"your all missing the word

CENSORSHIP

they will stop porn stop fab stop fun etc"

I don’t think it will make a difference

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I don’t see why it can’t work. Other countries have free broadband. And when we say free, it’s not, it’s just paid for from taxation. Rather than my money going to Richard Branson, I’d be paying for a national service. If I stopped paying £360 a year to virgin and payed a little bit more tax I wouldn’t mind. It’s swings and roundabouts. "

Hurray! Someone knows

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Spot on. If you don’t want free broadband then I am sure here will be other options you can pay for just like private health etc.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Yeah we know its a crock of impossibly expensive bullshit"

Do you want free broadband??

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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago

near ipswich

"Whoever controls the media controls the message, and how much is magic grandpa going to pay to buy out all the competition? "
spot on mate just look at china.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Whoever controls the media controls the message, and how much is magic grandpa going to pay to buy out all the competition? spot on mate just look at china."

This sounds like project fear? There will be free broadband but there will still be other paying options? Do you want free broadband?

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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago

near ipswich

"Whoever controls the media controls the message, and how much is magic grandpa going to pay to buy out all the competition? spot on mate just look at china.

This sounds like project fear? There will be free broadband but there will still be other paying options? Do you want free broadband? "
I can afford it i would prefer the money to be spent on more worthwhile things personally.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Whoever controls the media controls the message, and how much is magic grandpa going to pay to buy out all the competition? spot on mate just look at china.

This sounds like project fear? There will be free broadband but there will still be other paying options? Do you want free broadband? I can afford it i would prefer the money to be spent on more worthwhile things personally."

Like what? The internet is becoming more and more essential , we are miles behind other countries .

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By *oxychick35Couple
over a year ago

thornaby

"Whoever controls the media controls the message, and how much is magic grandpa going to pay to buy out all the competition? spot on mate just look at china.

Like what? The internet is becoming more and more essential , we are miles behind other countries . "
so would I it’s total waste of money could be spent on social care lots of more worthwhile things that free fucking broadband

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Whoever controls the media controls the message, and how much is magic grandpa going to pay to buy out all the competition? spot on mate just look at china.

Like what? The internet is becoming more and more essential , we are miles behind other countries . so would I it’s total waste of money could be spent on social care lots of more worthwhile things that free fucking broadband "

Why are you swearing? It isn’t a case of either or, we can have both?

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By *oxychick35Couple
over a year ago

thornaby

Or yer I forgot about the money tree sorry this is labour it’s a money forest

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Or yer I forgot about the money tree sorry this is labour it’s a money forest "

If you don’t want free broadband then don’t vote labour, it is that simple Are you going to vote for the conservatives?

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By *ittleAcornMan
over a year ago

visiting the beach

"Whoever controls the media controls the message, and how much is magic grandpa going to pay to buy out all the competition? spot on mate just look at china.

Well yes. But as Labour are offering both things, and the Tories are offering neither...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If the government broadband isn’t over 50 mbps I would pay like I do now for the fastest.

I can’t see why all the knickers are getting twisted.

If there is enough money for Brexit then there’s enough.money for anything labour want to do..

This free broadband is loose change compared to the economic cost of Brexit.

Relax we’ve been under austerity for a decade .Weve been saving the pennies under Conservative policy apparently..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Would a nationalised broadband service be against EU competition rules? If so how will labour manage to achieve this whilst still being in "the club"? And before you ask "do I want free broadband ", no because it wont really be free, I will be paying for it through my taxes an probably paying for the bone idle ones that don't pay nothing in too, and more importantly that money could fix so many other issues that I think are more important.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Would a nationalised broadband service be against EU competition rules? If so how will labour manage to achieve this whilst still being in "the club"? And before you ask "do I want free broadband ", no because it wont really be free, I will be paying for it through my taxes an probably paying for the bone idle ones that don't pay nothing in too, and more importantly that money could fix so many other issues that I think are more important."

You don’t want free broadband then?

that’s ok, don’t vote labour, why is it such a big deal ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It realky is that simple isn’t it,don’t want free broadband don’t vote labour.

Even if labour wins you can refuse to be connected..

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

No it isn't a big deal to me to be honest, I just think the country could probably do with other things sorting before giving free internet, and I clearly stated why fantastic, guess u didn't bother to read the post properly. Traditionally I have voted labour but I wont this time am afraid but each to there own.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"No it isn't a big deal to me to be honest, I just think the country could probably do with other things sorting before giving free internet, and I clearly stated why fantastic, guess u didn't bother to read the post properly. Traditionally I have voted labour but I wont this time am afraid but each to there own."

I read it, who will you vote for and why??

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By *oxychick35Couple
over a year ago

thornaby

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Who are you voting for ?

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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago

near ipswich

Who are you voting for ?

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tories for me mate history will just repeat its self if corbyn gets in spend, spend,spend then 10-15 years of the tories trying to balance the books again.

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By *oxychick35Couple
over a year ago

thornaby

I’ll probs vote the tories this one time just to get brexit done then Corbyn and his cronies will be gone so I’ll go back to labour for the next ge even if I bottle voting torries it won’t be labour

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Who are you voting for ?

tories for me mate history will just repeat its self if corbyn gets in spend, spend,spend then 10-15 years of the tories trying to balance the books again.

Fair enough ,

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I’ll probs vote the tories this one time just to get brexit done then Corbyn and his cronies will be gone so I’ll go back to labour for the next ge even if I bottle voting torries it won’t be labour "

Fair enough, you must be very happy with The Boris Brexit deal ?

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By *tingly ByronMan
over a year ago

In a town Fab forgot

And still no ones answered the question about how the existing broadband providers will be compensated now their business is destroyed.

The state already runs enough interference into my life.

I have no desire to hand them control of this aspect of my privacy.

Has it been stated whats being given away? Free, yes. But what speed?

If it's less than I already pay for, why would I want this "offer?"

Bearing in mind the current providers are struggling to reach less urban communities I can't see how this will be funded.

Bearing in mind what comes down your "pipe" is only as good as the pipe will allow, if what's being offered is more than we can currently receive, the entire telecoms network will need to be rebuilt.

I shudder to think what that will cost or where it's coming from.

So no, before you ask, I don't want or need free broadband.

I would like vast amounts of money to be pumped into other areas of society that would offer far greater benefit.

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By *oxychick35Couple
over a year ago

thornaby

Well labour really must have a money forest just said they will give £58 billion pay back to women born in the fifties for there lost pensions lol

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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago

near ipswich

"Well labour really must have a money forest just said they will give £58 billion pay back to women born in the fifties for there lost pensions lol"
Yeah not even a week after their manifesto that said everything was costed

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By *tingly ByronMan
over a year ago

In a town Fab forgot

"Well labour really must have a money forest just said they will give £58 billion pay back to women born in the fifties for there lost pensions lolYeah not even a week after their manifesto that said everything was costed

Dianne Abbott did the math.

Again......

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By *oxychick35Couple
over a year ago

thornaby

It’s only another 58 billion tho our grandkids grandkids can pay it off

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By *tingly ByronMan
over a year ago

In a town Fab forgot

"It’s only another 58 billion tho our grandkids grandkids can pay it off "

From the party slagging of the debt amassed by the Torys.....

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Well labour really must have a money forest just said they will give £58 billion pay back to women born in the fifties for there lost pensions lol"

Yeah fuck those women... scrounging pensioners..They aren’t equal to men ...

Viva la Brexit

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By *ittleAcornMan
over a year ago

visiting the beach

I struggle to understand a move from Labour to Conservative to "get Brexit done".

There is so much more at stake than this.

The Tories have glossed over everything else in their manifesto, hoping for exactly this thinking.

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By *oxychick35Couple
over a year ago

thornaby

"Well labour really must have a money forest just said they will give £58 billion pay back to women born in the fifties for there lost pensions lol

Yeah fuck those women... scrounging pensioners..They aren’t equal to men ...

Viva la Brexit

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there not doing it for the women bob there buying votes the women lost there case in the courts didn’t they ? Thought they were trying to put women on equal footing with men ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Well labour really must have a money forest just said they will give £58 billion pay back to women born in the fifties for there lost pensions lol

Yeah fuck those women... scrounging pensioners..They aren’t equal to men ...

Viva la Brexit

there not doing it for the women bob there buying votes the women lost there case in the courts didn’t they ? Thought they were trying to put women on equal footing with men ?"

So you think grandma should get the same pension as grandad ..??

It really is that simple.

Vote labour and your nan gets what she’s due vote conservatives and she doesn’t..,

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By *oxychick35Couple
over a year ago

thornaby

"Well labour really must have a money forest just said they will give £58 billion pay back to women born in the fifties for there lost pensions lol

Yeah fuck those women... scrounging pensioners..They aren’t equal to men ...

Viva la Brexit

there not doing it for the women bob there buying votes the women lost there case in the courts didn’t they ? Thought they were trying to put women on equal footing with men ?

So you think grandma should get the same pension as grandad ..??

It really is that simple.

Vote labour and your nan gets what she’s due vote conservatives and she doesn’t..,

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my nan lol I wish I dint even have a mam or dad we tend not to live to long up here bob my mam worked for social services retirement was 65 for them she retired died two yrs later I thought these women took this case to court and lost ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

You realise everything in every manifesto is aimed at a particular group of voter .

I don’t need free broadband .My nan is also dead she was a southerner and lived to 97 .She should of got paid the same as my grandad seeing as she started work at 10 years old as a maid and retired at 75 as a waitress.

The thing labour is offering my family is no tuition fees.

My kids will be at university in 5 years.

I’ll vote for that ..

We all vote for what we want .

You’ll vote for getting Brexit done ..

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By *oxychick35Couple
over a year ago

thornaby

Atleast she had a good innings bob my kids will both be in uni next yr I’d love them to get it for free but I don’t believe they will even if Corbyn got in he’s promising way more than he can deliver

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Atleast she had a good innings bob my kids will both be in uni next yr I’d love them to get it for free but I don’t believe they will even if Corbyn got in he’s promising way more than he can deliver "

If you believe Boris will make things better for you and your family and Corbyn won’t.

Then vote how you feel.

We all roll the dice and bet on this guy or that guy.

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By *oxychick35Couple
over a year ago

thornaby

If you believe Boris will make things better for you and your family and Corbyn won’t.

Then vote how you feel.

We all roll the dice and bet on this guy or that guy.

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only thing I believe about Boris is he will get us out the eu Corbyn wants out but asnt the balls to go against the rest of labour I think with Corbyn in number ten with in five yrs we will be much worse of than we are now I’m thinking of the long game bob

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

If you believe Boris will make things better for you and your family and Corbyn won’t.

Then vote how you feel.

We all roll the dice and bet on this guy or that guy.

only thing I believe about Boris is he will get us out the eu Corbyn wants out but asnt the balls to go against the rest of labour I think with Corbyn in number ten with in five yrs we will be much worse of than we are now I’m thinking of the long game bob "

We differ of course on our predictions for the future.

I think Brexit will leave us poorer in the long term and I want my kids to leave university without a huge debt .

I’ve seen what conservatives have done for the last decade and I’m voting Corbyn..

Then I’ll go back to voting green.

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By *ethnmelvCouple
over a year ago

Cardiff

If you believe Boris will make things better for you and your family and Corbyn won’t.

Then vote how you feel.

We all roll the dice and bet on this guy or that guy.

Didn’t they promise people we’d be better of straight away? That life would be immediately better? Wasn’t the mantra ‘Project Fear’ to discredit sensible estimates of what we would be throwing away?

But now you say its about playing the long game 5-10 years for things to get better! Maybe that truth should be shared with the electorate?

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By *oxychick35Couple
over a year ago

thornaby

Only time will tell bob

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By *oxychick35Couple
over a year ago

thornaby

If you believe Boris will make things better for you and your family and Corbyn won’t.

Then vote how you feel.

We all roll the dice and bet on this guy or that guy.

But now you say its about playing the long game 5-10 years for things to get better! Maybe that truth should be shared with the electorate?

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the other side of that coin is they said half a million jobs will disappear the day after we vote leave think it was Osborn who said that project fear was on both sides

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By *ethnmelvCouple
over a year ago

Cardiff

If you believe Boris will make things better for you and your family and Corbyn won’t.

Then vote how you feel.

We all roll the dice and bet on this guy or that guy.

But now you say its about playing the long game 5-10 years for things to get better! Maybe that truth should be shared with the electorate?

the other side of that coin is they said half a million jobs will disappear the day after we vote leave think it was Osborn who said that project fear was on both sides "

& you think it will take 5-10 years to get better? You accept that Brexit will cause significant problems for many, but it will all be fine in the future? I just do not see this being the case, the existing government has no track record of doing anything like this -

Universal Credit has been a fiasco,

Brexit Negotiations, fiasco,

HS2, fiasco,

Crossrail, fiasco,

Home Office treatment of Windrush and immigrants, a fiasco,

Austerity, a fiasco,

Social Services, a fiasco,

the NHS underfunded and pushed to the brink. The is the current Governments track record...

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By *ethnmelvCouple
over a year ago

Cardiff

& don’t even get me started on their housing policy, or lack thereof!

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By *oxychick35Couple
over a year ago

thornaby

I think most ppl won’t even notice the difference what difference will it make to yr life personally ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Not into politics or parties But make NO mistake the party of giveaways sweeteners will give you censorship and ban all sorts and I dont mean liquorice

This Government tried for that without it being free.

On what do you base your certainty? "
the socialist parties of Iran and China switch the tinternet off all the time when they don't want their own citizens talking about state problems.

The biggest threat any citizen faces is from their own government!.

And that's a fact

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"your all missing the word

CENSORSHIP

they will stop porn stop fab stop fun etc"

I think you'll find that was a repeated attempted Tory policy which Labour always voted down.

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By *tingly ByronMan
over a year ago

In a town Fab forgot

"Not into politics or parties But make NO mistake the party of giveaways sweeteners will give you censorship and ban all sorts and I dont mean liquorice

This Government tried for that without it being free.

On what do you base your certainty? the socialist parties of Iran and China switch the tinternet off all the time when they don't want their own citizens talking about state problems.

The biggest threat any citizen faces is from their own government!.

And that's a fact

Don't North Korea do it too?

All great models of openness and freedom of expression.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"your all missing the word

CENSORSHIP

they will stop porn stop fab stop fun etc

I think you'll find that was a repeated attempted Tory policy which Labour always voted down."
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It was an EU directive actually

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By *ara JTV/TS
over a year ago

Bristol East

Nope.

This was something Cameron dreamt up.

Nothing to do with EU.

And re Government switching stuff off, I think you'll find the UK Government already possesses that capability - contingency planning for a national emergency.

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By *ara JTV/TS
over a year ago

Bristol East

The revolution will not be televised (and it won't be shown on the internet, either)

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By *ethnmelvCouple
over a year ago

Cardiff

Given how incompetent our governments are, we are more at risk from Facebook and Google who actually know how to collect and use data!

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By *uietbloke67Man
over a year ago

outside your bedroom window ;-)

The offer is a full free to access broadband service to the UK. With some of the comments on here about ...cant afford it, pie in the sky nonsense. I'll remind you we did it with electricity, rail, water and roads a feckin 100 years ago.

I dont get some people?

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over a year ago

"The offer is a full free to access broadband service to the UK. With some of the comments on here about ...cant afford it, pie in the sky nonsense. I'll remind you we did it with electricity, rail, water and roads a feckin 100 years ago.

I dont get some people?"
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That's not really the same.

The government put infrastructure in that people paid a service charge for using, you know, water bills electric bills, car tax,fuel duty.

If he said he was going to put broadband into every home then charge people a monthly bill then that would be a fair comparison.

This is of course typical government wastage, the reason no private companies are installing broadband is were moving to 5g and 6g over the air technology which will make cabling redundant.

Im not a knocker of nationalised industries but we already have some of the cheapest data costs in Europe, this is an industry that really doesn't need government intervention.

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By *ocbigMan
over a year ago

Birmingham

you do realise that 'getting Brexit Done' is the start of the start, not the end?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It never ceases to amaze me, the power that our media have over people.

A party offer you something for free, something that we all have to pay for through subscriptions and government subsidies already anyway, and will cost nobody earning under £85k a single penny, yet the press have you arguing against it.

These same idiots would have argued against the formation of the NHS, welfare state, National Grid, votes for women etc etc.

Wake up and realise you're being played.

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By *oi_LucyCouple
over a year ago

Barbados

“Just to get Brexit done”

Hahahaha Hahahah

Hahahaha hahahah

Hahahahaha hahahahaha ahah

Oh foxy, you are funny.

Careful. Some people might think you actually believe that.

-Matt

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Not into politics or parties But make NO mistake the party of giveaways sweeteners will give you censorship and ban all sorts and I dont mean liquorice

How will the providers who currently charge for broadband be compensated for their losses?

But Boris promised!!!

Surely we’ll get it straight after all the new hospitals he promised us during the Brexit campaigns?

Was it Boris or the other idiot?

Not that it matters, it'll never happen..."

I don't see it happening either

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By *ocbigMan
over a year ago

Birmingham

"It never ceases to amaze me, the power that our media have over people.

These same idiots would have argued against the formation of the NHS, welfare state, National Grid, votes for women etc etc.

Wake up and realise you're being played."

I have never understood this aspect of our national psyche. The rush to defend the rich & very rich by those that are never going to be allowed to join them by the very policies they are defending. It would appear that turkeys do vote for Christmas.

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By *tingly ByronMan
over a year ago

In a town Fab forgot

"It never ceases to amaze me, the power that our media have over people.

These same idiots would have argued against the formation of the NHS, welfare state, National Grid, votes for women etc etc.

Wake up and realise you're being played.

When will people realise that red or blue, many of them are very rich.

JC has a nett worth in excess of £3 million and will get an index linked pension well over £150k a year.

He's very rich. Many on both sides are more wealthy than him.

In rebuttal people will whine "so and so from xyz party is richer"

Who gives a shit about how much more, rich is rich.

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By *ittleAcornMan
over a year ago

visiting the beach

"It never ceases to amaze me, the power that our media have over people.

These same idiots would have argued against the formation of the NHS, welfare state, National Grid, votes for women etc etc.

Wake up and realise you're being played.

When will people realise that red or blue, many of them are very rich.

JC has a nett worth in excess of £3 million and will get an index linked pension well over £150k a year.

He's very rich. Many on both sides are more wealthy than him.

In rebuttal people will whine "so and so from xyz party is richer"

Who gives a shit about how much more, rich is rich.

What has an individual politician's wealth got to do with anything?

I would imagine any career politician will have done quite well. It's an (arguably) important job, requiring knowledge across a lot of areas.

It's more about the type of policies they are getting behind.

Generally it would seem that Tory policy benefits the better off, whilst Labour policy benefits the poorer or less able of society.

Yes, that's a very black and white statement. But it boils down to this.

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By *tingly ByronMan
over a year ago

In a town Fab forgot

"It never ceases to amaze me, the power that our media have over people.

These same idiots would have argued against the formation of the NHS, welfare state, National Grid, votes for women etc etc.

Wake up and realise you're being played.

When will people realise that red or blue, many of them are very rich.

JC has a nett worth in excess of £3 million and will get an index linked pension well over £150k a year.

He's very rich. Many on both sides are more wealthy than him.

In rebuttal people will whine "so and so from xyz party is richer"

Who gives a shit about how much more, rich is rich.

What has an individual politician's wealth got to do with anything?

I would imagine any career politician will have done quite well. It's an (arguably) important job, requiring knowledge across a lot of areas.

It's more about the type of policies they are getting behind.

Generally it would seem that Tory policy benefits the better off, whilst Labour policy benefits the poorer or less able of society.

Yes, that's a very black and white statement. But it boils down to this. "

I couldn't agree more, a politicians wealth really should have fuck all to do with how you vote.

I certainly don't take it into account.

Which party do I feel offers the most to the country and to where I live?

They get my vote. Seems some to me.

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

Central

It's the conservatives who have spent £millions on censorship, with the failed adult verification for porn, due to have been started last year, delayed to this and now added to a wider bill to be introduced.

This is baseless nonsense from op. The move is ideological to return some former state owned utility to itself and to prevent the UK from relegating itself to a country trailing others due to poorer tech

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By *hechairman18Man
over a year ago

Salford Quays , Manchester

"It realky is that simple isn’t it,don’t want free broadband don’t vote labour.

Even if labour wins you can refuse to be connected..

Don't be fooled by Corbyn and Macdonnell.

They are both Communists.

What they really mean and intend, is, Free State controlled internet.

Wake up and smell the coffee.

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over a year ago

"It realky is that simple isn’t it,don’t want free broadband don’t vote labour.

Even if labour wins you can refuse to be connected..

Don't be fooled by Corbyn and Macdonnell.

They are both Communists.

What they really mean and intend, is, Free State controlled internet.

Wake up and smell the coffee."

I didn’t know you could buy communist coffee..

Will they be serving that in the salt mines and gulags...or anywhere else your imagination takes you??

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By *hechairman18Man
over a year ago

Salford Quays , Manchester

I'll put it another way.

STATE Controlled Free Internet !!!

Now do you all get it?

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By *ethnmelvCouple
over a year ago

Cardiff

"I'll put it another way.

STATE Controlled Free Internet !!!

Now do you all get it?"

Like STATE Controlled Free NHS?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

You communists and your state controlled healthcare and your government funded roads...

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"I'll put it another way.

STATE Controlled Free Internet !!!

Now do you all get it?"

I'll put it another way.

We would be technically on the same level as Japan if the Tories hadn't crippled BT and their plans in the 80's.

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By *tingly ByronMan
over a year ago

In a town Fab forgot

"I'll put it another way.

STATE Controlled Free Internet !!!

Now do you all get it?

Like STATE Controlled Free NHS?

The NHS doesn't have access to my email or websearches.

Or any of my online banking, DVLA information, web based purchases.

Even what I watch on the telly....

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over a year ago

"It realky is that simple isn’t it,don’t want free broadband don’t vote labour.

Even if labour wins you can refuse to be connected..

Bet they fackin don’t though!

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over a year ago

"doesn't have access to my email or websearches.

Or any of my online banking, DVLA information, web based purchases.

Even what I watch on the telly....

Aww bless, what phone do you have? Cause I guarantee you Amazon, Apple, Google and Facebook already know most of that information and share it with US government's and whoever else pays for it.

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over a year ago

"It realky is that simple isn’t it,don’t want free broadband don’t vote labour.

Even if labour wins you can refuse to be connected..

Don't be fooled by Corbyn and Macdonnell.

They are both Communists.

What they really mean and intend, is, Free State controlled internet.

Wake up and smell the coffee."

What does it all matter to you though? You’ve lived your life.

What about me? What about this generation? The future.

Met Corbyn personally. You talk cack and are spreading it. Stop.

Scarlett

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over a year ago

"doesn't have access to my email or websearches.

Or any of my online banking, DVLA information, web based purchases.

Even what I watch on the telly....

Aww bless, what phone do you have? Cause I guarantee you Amazon, Apple, Google and Facebook already know most of that information and share it with US government's and whoever else pays for it."

It’s weird though. Why would the US be interested in what we’re all up to in the UK....

Hmmm.

World domination plans?

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By *tingly ByronMan
over a year ago

In a town Fab forgot

"doesn't have access to my email or websearches.

Or any of my online banking, DVLA information, web based purchases.

Even what I watch on the telly....

Aww bless, what phone do you have? Cause I guarantee you Amazon, Apple, Google and Facebook already know most of that information and share it with US government's and whoever else pays for it."

I think you missed my point completely.

Never mind.

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By *tingly ByronMan
over a year ago

In a town Fab forgot

"doesn't have access to my email or websearches.

Or any of my online banking, DVLA information, web based purchases.

Even what I watch on the telly....

Aww bless, what phone do you have? Cause I guarantee you Amazon, Apple, Google and Facebook already know most of that information and share it with US government's and whoever else pays for it.

It’s weird though. Why would the US be interested in what we’re all up to in the UK....

Hmmm.

World domination plans? "

Any more bollocks like that and I'll put my tin hat back on.

World domination my arse.

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over a year ago

"doesn't have access to my email or websearches.

Or any of my online banking, DVLA information, web based purchases.

Even what I watch on the telly....

Aww bless, what phone do you have? Cause I guarantee you Amazon, Apple, Google and Facebook already know most of that information and share it with US government's and whoever else pays for it.

It’s weird though. Why would the US be interested in what we’re all up to in the UK....

Hmmm.

World domination plans?

Any more bollocks like that and I'll put my tin hat back on.

World domination my arse."

I agree! Who would want to run a world, where everyone is robots. Can’t be very nice for the people when looking outta their top nosh houses...

It makes no sense!

So, what and why then?

And it’s a real low quality to have, scoffing at others genuine concerns/thoughts. It’s very much like bullying, in my book. You know? Belittling and all....

Scarlett.

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By *aekaeWoman
over a year ago

Between a cock and a soft place

That's quite an overreaction.

Fae

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