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"On December 2, for a two-day NATO summit in Hertfordshire. He's got a record of being petulant and insulting at these events. I think this visit might be good news for Mr Corbyn's campaign. What do you think?" I think all remainers need to vote lib dems Beyond that I think trump a vile racist petulant hate preacher man child and I find it frightening so many in the UK support him I'll re iterate unless All remain voters vote lib dems the UK will fall Tory and leave the EU My prediction too many remainers will vote according to standard form the vote splits and the UK will be out and one more step closer to America's way | |||
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"Ah, but what's the real reason for the visit? I'll start the rumour now that he knows the impeachment is about to go nuclear, so he's going to ask boris for political asylum..." Honestly that wouldnt surprise me in the slightest. | |||
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"I think it was the resonance with fascist slogans in the 1930s that alarmed people, rather than the sentiment behind it. " Any examples? | |||
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"On December 2, for a two-day NATO summit in Hertfordshire. He's got a record of being petulant and insulting at these events. I think this visit might be good news for Mr Corbyn's campaign. What do you think? I think all remainers need to vote lib dems Beyond that I think trump a vile racist petulant hate preacher man child and I find it frightening so many in the UK support him I'll re iterate unless All remain voters vote lib dems the UK will fall Tory and leave the EU My prediction too many remainers will vote according to standard form the vote splits and the UK will be out and one more step closer to America's way " Unless of course a constituency is evenly split between Labour and Tory, then a vote for LibDem would let the Tory in. It's all in the detail dear boy. | |||
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"Corbyn will love this , especially if Trump shows support for Nigel And Borris !" Trump will no doubt endorse Farage and Boris just before the election and vilify Corbyn. Could be a blessing or a curse.Hes not very popular here . | |||
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"On December 2, for a two-day NATO summit in Hertfordshire. He's got a record of being petulant and insulting at these events. I think this visit might be good news for Mr Corbyn's campaign. What do you think?" He's got a record of being honest and straight forward at these events (NATO related matters) . . . . Example, kicking the arse's of those NATO countries who don't pay their agreed share of NATO. . (I believe it's 1.5% of GDP. . I may be wrong on that and await being corrected.) . . USA has for many many years shouldered other states costs. | |||
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"On December 2, for a two-day NATO summit in Hertfordshire. He's got a record of being petulant and insulting at these events. I think this visit might be good news for Mr Corbyn's campaign. What do you think?" If you'd said "Donald is coming to town" we could all have sung along to the same tune as "Santa's coming to town". You're just a damned spoil sport. | |||
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"On December 2, for a two-day NATO summit in Hertfordshire. He's got a record of being petulant and insulting at these events. I think this visit might be good news for Mr Corbyn's campaign. What do you think? He's got a record of being honest and straight forward at these events (NATO related matters) . . . . Example, kicking the arse's of those NATO countries who don't pay their agreed share of NATO. . (I believe it's 1.5% of GDP. . I may be wrong on that and await being corrected.) . . USA has for many many years shouldered other states costs. " No they have not, countries do not pay into any pot that leaves America picking up the tab. | |||
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" He's got a record of being honest and straight forward at these events (NATO related matters) . . . . Example, kicking the arse's of those NATO countries who don't pay their agreed share of NATO. . (I believe it's 1.5% of GDP. . I may be wrong on that and await being corrected.) . " I think the rule is 2 % of GDP. | |||
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"On December 2, for a two-day NATO summit in Hertfordshire. He's got a record of being petulant and insulting at these events. I think this visit might be good news for Mr Corbyn's campaign. What do you think? He's got a record of being honest and straight forward at these events (NATO related matters) . . . . Example, kicking the arse's of those NATO countries who don't pay their agreed share of NATO. . (I believe it's 1.5% of GDP. . I may be wrong on that and await being corrected.) . . USA has for many many years shouldered other states costs. No they have not, countries do not pay into any pot that leaves America picking up the tab. " Nato members are committed to spending 2% of gdp on defence not pay into any pot.The usa pays over 3.5% while only the uk and poland pay the 2% required this is what he is on about. | |||
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"The members agreed contributions of two percent of GDP. Most don't meet this at the moment. He is simply asking the member states to meet their target amounts." Yes, and insisting they spend it in US factories. Macron and Merkel are flirting with the idea of developing a European military-industrial complex so that the money stays in Europe rather than go to America. | |||
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"The members agreed contributions of two percent of GDP. Most don't meet this at the moment. He is simply asking the member states to meet their target amounts. Yes, and insisting they spend it in US factories. Macron and Merkel are flirting with the idea of developing a European military-industrial complex so that the money stays in Europe rather than go to America. " I would like to see your source of where he is insisting this please, as very interested where a leader of a country can dictate where another country spends its money. | |||
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"The minutes of a NATO meeting were leaked to a Spanish newspaper. I recall reading the story a few months ago. The US military top brass insisting: a) European states had to up their spending b) They had to buy US hardware to ensure their forces could be deployed alongside US forces. America First. " Total rubbish the uk,france,germany,italy netherlands all have their own arms companies so why would they have to buy arms from the usa? you really do believe everything you hear about trump and post it on here without doing any research. | |||
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"The members agreed contributions of two percent of GDP. Most don't meet this at the moment. He is simply asking the member states to meet their target amounts." Exactly | |||
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"It's to do with ensuring that the equipment meets STANAG specifications so that it is interchangeable. Turkey buying Soviet S400 anti aircraft systems means they can't be integrated with other NATO countries equipment which would lead to air defence having vulnerable gaps if it was ever needed." Thanks just answered the question nato countries dont have to buy from the usa. | |||
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"On December 2, for a two-day NATO summit in Hertfordshire. He's got a record of being petulant and insulting at these events. I think this visit might be good news for Mr Corbyn's campaign. What do you think?" Sadly I do agree | |||
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"The minutes of a NATO meeting were leaked to a Spanish newspaper. I recall reading the story a few months ago. The US military top brass insisting: a) European states had to up their spending b) They had to buy US hardware to ensure their forces could be deployed alongside US forces. America First. " If true then a European defence strategy would suit Europeans even more | |||
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"Corbyn will love this , especially if Trump shows support for Nigel And Borris ! Trump will no doubt endorse Farage and Boris just before the election and vilify Corbyn. Could be a blessing or a curse.Hes not very popular here ." Blessing for Corbyn deffonatly ! | |||
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"Sorry, my mistake - it's "America First" that has a dubious relationship with fascist, anti-semite thinking in the US in the 1930s and 40s. " Oh right. So no real reason for not wanting to make America great again then. I often get the feeling that western liberals get a real hard on for the collapse and failure of our society. Ashamed to be successful. Salivating at the prospect of uk failure after Brexit, crossing their fingers that Trump just makes things worse. I can only imagine how angry his talks with the north Korean's made them. Sad cunts. | |||
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"Sorry, my mistake - it's "America First" that has a dubious relationship with fascist, anti-semite thinking in the US in the 1930s and 40s. Oh right. So no real reason for not wanting to make America great again then. I often get the feeling that western liberals get a real hard on for the collapse and failure of our society. Ashamed to be successful. Salivating at the prospect of uk failure after Brexit, crossing their fingers that Trump just makes things worse. I can only imagine how angry his talks with the north Korean's made them. Sad cunts. " If you were American and eligible to vote in their next presidentially election wound you vote for Trump? A simple yes or no answer will suffice | |||
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"Sorry, my mistake - it's "America First" that has a dubious relationship with fascist, anti-semite thinking in the US in the 1930s and 40s. Oh right. So no real reason for not wanting to make America great again then. I often get the feeling that western liberals get a real hard on for the collapse and failure of our society. Ashamed to be successful. Salivating at the prospect of uk failure after Brexit, crossing their fingers that Trump just makes things worse. I can only imagine how angry his talks with the north Korean's made them. Sad cunts. If you were American and eligible to vote in their next presidentially election wound you vote for Trump? A simple yes or no answer will suffice " Against who? | |||
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"Sorry, my mistake - it's "America First" that has a dubious relationship with fascist, anti-semite thinking in the US in the 1930s and 40s. Oh right. So no real reason for not wanting to make America great again then. I often get the feeling that western liberals get a real hard on for the collapse and failure of our society. Ashamed to be successful. Salivating at the prospect of uk failure after Brexit, crossing their fingers that Trump just makes things worse. I can only imagine how angry his talks with the north Korean's made them. Sad cunts. If you were American and eligible to vote in their next presidentially election wound you vote for Trump? A simple yes or no answer will suffice Against who?" Yes or no will suffice | |||
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"Can anyone on this forum tell me how Donald Trump has affected their life since he has been President of the USA? Me personally; he never has and probably never will. Hence why I couldn't give a fuck. " Im with you there i couldnt give a toss no more than who is elected in any other country its up to their citizens.I notice some who keep banging on about brexiteers are wanting to return to the days of the empire are the ones who want to stick their noses in other countries politics ironic. | |||
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"Corbyn will love this , especially if Trump shows support for Nigel And Borris ! Trump will no doubt endorse Farage and Boris just before the election and vilify Corbyn. Could be a blessing or a curse.Hes not very popular here . Blessing for Corbyn deffonatly !" A blessing for Farage and Corbyn and a curse upon Boris. | |||
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"The minutes of a NATO meeting were leaked to a Spanish newspaper. I recall reading the story a few months ago. The US military top brass insisting: a) European states had to up their spending b) They had to buy US hardware to ensure their forces could be deployed alongside US forces. America First. Total rubbish the uk,france,germany,italy netherlands all have their own arms companies so why would they have to buy arms from the usa? you really do believe everything you hear about trump and post it on here without doing any research. " The military-industrial complex of Europe could keep you going for a few days of Russian bombardment. The American one will keep you going for months. Europe wants to build up its capacity, because it has lost trust in this US president. Article 5. We might be hearing a lot about that come Dec 2. | |||
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"On December 2, for a two-day NATO summit in Hertfordshire. He's got a record of being petulant and insulting at these events. I think this visit might be good news for Mr Corbyn's campaign. What do you think?" Why would it be good for dear old Jezza? It's a NATO summit, might as well suggest that Merkle's presence is a good thing for Mr.Corbyn or any other visiting head of state from the many NATO contributees who'll be there. Corbyn hasn't much good to say about NATO or UK armed forces, probably favours the projected EU army over NATO too. Again, probably more benefit for our comrade from EU heads of states who are NATO members than Trump. | |||
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" Why would it be good for dear old Jezza?" Cos Mr Trump lends a certain touch of magic to the Boris and Nigel show, dont'cha think? | |||
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" Why would it be good for dear old Jezza? Cos Mr Trump lends a certain touch of magic to the Boris and Nigel show, dont'cha think? " It's a NATO summit, something Mr. C might have to attend should he become PM of the UK,and possibly at the same time as DT. Now that I'd love to see. | |||
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" Why would it be good for dear old Jezza? Cos Mr Trump lends a certain touch of magic to the Boris and Nigel show, dont'cha think? It's a NATO summit, something Mr. C might have to attend should he become PM of the UK,and possibly at the same time as DT. Now that I'd love to see. " I think he'd be sitting in the European side of the room. | |||
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"Article 5 Who has the uk imprisoned politically, and not criminal." Article 5. Of the NATO Treaty. The one that says an attack on one is an attack on all. Only ever invoked once in history. Europe doubts Trump's commitment to it. | |||
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" Why would it be good for dear old Jezza? Cos Mr Trump lends a certain touch of magic to the Boris and Nigel show, dont'cha think? It's a NATO summit, something Mr. C might have to attend should he become PM of the UK,and possibly at the same time as DT. Now that I'd love to see. " Much as i love JC, i worry that as an international statesman, he'd be even more of an embarrassment then bonkers Boris! | |||
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"Can anyone on this forum tell me how Donald Trump has affected their life since he has been President of the USA? Me personally; he never has and probably never will. Hence why I couldn't give a fuck. " Anyone? I expected a barrage based on people moaning about him | |||
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"Ah, but what's the real reason for the visit? I'll start the rumour now that he knows the impeachment is about to go nuclear, so he's going to ask boris for political asylum..." The only two American Presidents who have been impeached were Andrew Johnson and Bill Clinton, both of whom were Democrats. In both cases however the Senate did not convict them. I imagine the same will happen with Trump. Coincidentally being impeached didn’t stop Clinton being elected for a second term of office. | |||
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"Can anyone on this forum tell me how Donald Trump has affected their life since he has been President of the USA? Me personally; he never has and probably never will. Hence why I couldn't give a fuck. Anyone? I expected a barrage based on people moaning about him " There's less stories in the press about north Korean missile tests. So that has affect me. | |||
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"Can anyone on this forum tell me how Donald Trump has affected their life since he has been President of the USA? Me personally; he never has and probably never will. Hence why I couldn't give a fuck. " The reason for posting this was to elicit people's views on how his presence here early December might affect the outcome of the General Election. I do think he is more of a liability than an asset for the Boris and Nigel double-act. | |||
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"Thanks just answered the question nato countries dont have to buy from the usa." EMMANUEL MACRON IN HIS OWN WORDS The Economist Interview, published Nov 7: "NATO was designed in response to an enemy: the Warsaw Pact. In 1990 we didn’t reassess this geopolitical project in the slightest when our initial enemy vanished. The unarticulated assumption is that the enemy is still Russia. "it’s also true that when we intervene in Syria against terrorism, it’s not actually NATO that intervenes. We use NATO's interoperability mechanisms, but it’s an ad hoc coalition. So, the question about the present purpose of NATO is a real question that needs to be asked. "Particularly by the United States. In the eyes of President Trump, and I completely respect that, NATO is seen as a commercial project. He sees it as a project in which the United States acts as a sort of geopolitical umbrella, but the trade-off is that there has to be commercial exclusivity, it’s an arrangement for buying American products. France didn’t sign up for that." | |||
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"Can anyone on this forum tell me how Donald Trump has affected their life since he has been President of the USA? Me personally; he never has and probably never will. Hence why I couldn't give a fuck. The reason for posting this was to elicit people's views on how his presence here early December might affect the outcome of the General Election. I do think he is more of a liability than an asset for the Boris and Nigel double-act. " So he hasn't affected anyone, thought not. I will go back to not giving a fuck | |||
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"Welcome big don ....hope u and boris catch up" Big don?? | |||
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"Speaking of Korea, Trump is doing exactly the same there that he is doing to NATO. South Korea currently contributes $890m a year to the US in return for 30,000 US troops stationed in South Korea. Trump says he is thinking of pulling them out unless South Korea stumps up $5 billion a year. America First. " What!? Just when i thought the US was some kind of world wide charity, almost a global Robin Hood.. | |||
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" What!? Just when i thought the US was some kind of world wide charity, almost a global Robin Hood.." Many a true word said in jest. The geopolitical order that has held sway since 1945 - the one whereby the US has guaranteed the security of countries committed to democratic capitalism - is being ripped up by Bonespurs. He ain't interested, unless US factories are reaping the rewards. | |||
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"Technically, the US and South Korea are still at war with North Korea. And Trump's little fat friend in the North says his time is being wasted doing PR photo-ups with President Bonespurs, No more, he says. “We are no longer interested in such talks that bring nothing to us. As we have got nothing in return, we will no longer gift the U.S. president with something he can boast of, but get compensation for the successes that President Trump is proud of as his administrative achievements.” " That’s enough to give trump chest pains.. Good job he’s in hospital having his ticker look at...Its probably the strongest best heart in the world. | |||
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"Why do they need troops there trumps best mates with little guy over the border and has stopped " Maybe Trump would like you to think that. Have a look at the 38 North website, and you'll see how the NK military-industrial complex is expanding, not shrinking. Trump saw NK as a real estate opportunity, but his little fat friend doesn't want to play ball. So now he senses an opportunity to black-mail the south by threatening to walk away. Every US president since 1945, their foreign policy objective has been to maintain US influence around the world in the name of democratic capitalism. Not this one - he doesn't care. He just wants cash. Like a gangster running a protection racket. Just wait until he discovers how little the UK pays the US for Trident missiles. | |||
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"There's a school of thought that says something along the lines of American presidents not wanting its regular army at home. They'd rather have it at war, or peacekeeping, rather than at home where they might get all "coupy"..." It's not as lucrative for the arms manufacturers if the US army is at home. | |||
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"I have said it before and I will say it again . President Trump will go down as the best President ever ." You haven't said that, you're just repeating slogans without thinking (brainless). | |||
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"Nothing conspiratorial about Trump the wannabe gangster black-mailing South Korea - it came up in the SK Parliament today. " . Oh yes the wannabe gangster!!, no more than Corbyn is or anybody else that desires to assume power. It's part of the game and the whole reason why the West was set up alongside checks and balances, what really needs to be asked is, is what trump did with South Korea in the USAs interests, most Americans would say yes, just like they would with the Ukraine, does it favour him politically, no doubt but again which politican doesn't use power to favour themselves. | |||
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"Trump is ready to abandon another treaty that is the cornerstone of the European security architecture. The Open Skies Agreement, which allows 30-odd countries, including US and Russia, to overfly territory to verify military agreements are being observed. NATO members are not impressed. " It’s not as simple as the US wants to quit. The American aircraft are over 50 years old and have maintenance issues, one American aircraft had to make an emergency landing in Russia during an Open Skies sortie. The treaty predates digital cameras and the Russians replaced the wet film camera systems in their aircraft in 2017 which at the time was felt would benefit them greatly compared to the other nations. Europe and the US are also concerned about Russian non compliance with the treaty. Critics of the treaty have complained that Russia restricts flights near the Russian exclave of Kaliningrad and the Georgian border-conflict regions of South Ossetia and Abkhazia. The U.S. responded with flight restrictions over parts of Hawaii and Alaska. In 2018 there were no over flights conducted by the US or Russia due to their various disputes. Trump administration officials also challenged NATO ally Germany’s plan to test a new infrared sensor in a flight over the United States in 2020, arguing it would open the door for Russia to do the same. Another U.S. concern is a claim that there’s no way under the Open Skies Treaty for signatories to know if Russia is surreptitiously gathering intelligence on U.S. forces while en route to its scheduled overflights. For example, the U.S. was concerned Russia’s aircraft would focus its sensors on American forces in Poland while flying to Germany. (Cameras on Open Skies aircraft are supposed to be covered during transit flights between the host nation and the area being surveilled.) Treaty opponents argue commercial satellites have superior imagery and its readily available and they don’t need permission. Advocates see value in airborne assets that can fly quickly and below cloud level; they question how efficiently America or the U.K. can share intelligence with all Open Skies signatories, which includes a number of non-NATO nations. So it’s not a simple issue of Trump wants out of the treaty. The issue has been simmering for a number of years and no doubt will rumble on. | |||
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"We've got Labour for anti-semitism now, no need for Trump at all And Momentum for Fascism!" | |||
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"And he's spat the dummy out of the pram now." Which thing? Nothing he says or tweets is coherent. | |||
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"Some video that he says makes that nice young Mr Truedau two-faced. Cancels his press conference and leaves early in a huff." I watched that video. It was pretty funny. He contracted himself three or four times. The Trump presidency still feels like an elaborate reality TV show wind up. | |||
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"It is mad that a temper tantrum can alter global politics. " A man who puts American jobs and salaries ahead of the continued survival of the planet is a true visionary! | |||
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"You need to see the video of Trudeau, Macron, Johnson and Rutte taken secretedly at the Buck House reception last night to put it into context. " That video was pretty school play ground stuff. Same goes for trump and the video of him saying "that was funny when i called him two faced". Can you believe these people are leaders of the world. I was thinking if corybn was PM, i couldnt see him behaving in such cildish conduct. | |||
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"You need to see the video of Trudeau, Macron, Johnson and Rutte taken secretedly at the Buck House reception last night to put it into context. That video was pretty school play ground stuff. Same goes for trump and the video of him saying "that was funny when i called him two faced". Can you believe these people are leaders of the world. I was thinking if corybn was PM, i couldnt see him behaving in such cildish conduct. " The other children were teasing poor Donald so now he doesn't want to play any more. | |||
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"You need to see the video of Trudeau, Macron, Johnson and Rutte taken secretedly at the Buck House reception last night to put it into context. That video was pretty school play ground stuff. Same goes for trump and the video of him saying "that was funny when i called him two faced". Can you believe these people are leaders of the world. I was thinking if corybn was PM, i couldnt see him behaving in such cildish conduct. The other children were teasing poor Donald so now he doesn't want to play any more." At least no one bragged about grabbing anyone by the genitals. | |||
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"You need to see the video of Trudeau, Macron, Johnson and Rutte taken secretedly at the Buck House reception last night to put it into context. That video was pretty school play ground stuff. Same goes for trump and the video of him saying "that was funny when i called him two faced". Can you believe these people are leaders of the world. I was thinking if corybn was PM, i couldnt see him behaving in such cildish conduct. The other children were teasing poor Donald so now he doesn't want to play any more. At least no one bragged about grabbing anyone by the genitals. " So we're on an upward trend? | |||
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"You need to see the video of Trudeau, Macron, Johnson and Rutte taken secretedly at the Buck House reception last night to put it into context. That video was pretty school play ground stuff. Same goes for trump and the video of him saying "that was funny when i called him two faced". Can you believe these people are leaders of the world. I was thinking if corybn was PM, i couldnt see him behaving in such cildish conduct. The other children were teasing poor Donald so now he doesn't want to play any more. At least no one bragged about grabbing anyone by the genitals. So we're on an upward trend?" After Trump, the only way is up. :0 Then again, many people thought that about Bush. | |||
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"You need to see the video of Trudeau, Macron, Johnson and Rutte taken secretedly at the Buck House reception last night to put it into context. That video was pretty school play ground stuff. Same goes for trump and the video of him saying "that was funny when i called him two faced". Can you believe these people are leaders of the world. I was thinking if corybn was PM, i couldnt see him behaving in such cildish conduct. The other children were teasing poor Donald so now he doesn't want to play any more. At least no one bragged about grabbing anyone by the genitals. So we're on an upward trend? After Trump, the only way is up. :0 Then again, many people thought that about Bush. " At least Trump hasn't started any wars (yet) not for lack of trying. I guess when as the president of the worlds largest greenhouse gas producing country leaves the Paris 2015 agreement..... he can doom us all at once instead of doing it one country at a time | |||
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"You need to see the video of Trudeau, Macron, Johnson and Rutte taken secretedly at the Buck House reception last night to put it into context. That video was pretty school play ground stuff. Same goes for trump and the video of him saying "that was funny when i called him two faced". Can you believe these people are leaders of the world. I was thinking if corybn was PM, i couldnt see him behaving in such cildish conduct. The other children were teasing poor Donald so now he doesn't want to play any more. At least no one bragged about grabbing anyone by the genitals. So we're on an upward trend? After Trump, the only way is up. :0 Then again, many people thought that about Bush. At least Trump hasn't started any wars (yet) not for lack of trying. I guess when as the president of the worlds largest greenhouse gas producing country leaves the Paris 2015 agreement..... he can doom us all at once instead of doing it one country at a time " What do you mean "not for lack of trying" ? Im not sure Clinton wanted peace with north Korea at all! | |||
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"You need to see the video of Trudeau, Macron, Johnson and Rutte taken secretedly at the Buck House reception last night to put it into context. That video was pretty school play ground stuff. Same goes for trump and the video of him saying "that was funny when i called him two faced". Can you believe these people are leaders of the world. I was thinking if corybn was PM, i couldnt see him behaving in such cildish conduct. The other children were teasing poor Donald so now he doesn't want to play any more. At least no one bragged about grabbing anyone by the genitals. So we're on an upward trend? After Trump, the only way is up. :0 Then again, many people thought that about Bush. At least Trump hasn't started any wars (yet) not for lack of trying. I guess when as the president of the worlds largest greenhouse gas producing country leaves the Paris 2015 agreement..... he can doom us all at once instead of doing it one country at a time What do you mean "not for lack of trying" ? Im not sure Clinton wanted peace with north Korea at all!" Dunno. Did you miss Trump's rocket man speech? It wasn't exactly cute and cuddly. | |||
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"You need to see the video of Trudeau, Macron, Johnson and Rutte taken secretedly at the Buck House reception last night to put it into context. That video was pretty school play ground stuff. Same goes for trump and the video of him saying "that was funny when i called him two faced". Can you believe these people are leaders of the world. I was thinking if corybn was PM, i couldnt see him behaving in such cildish conduct. The other children were teasing poor Donald so now he doesn't want to play any more. At least no one bragged about grabbing anyone by the genitals. So we're on an upward trend? After Trump, the only way is up. :0 Then again, many people thought that about Bush. At least Trump hasn't started any wars (yet) not for lack of trying. I guess when as the president of the worlds largest greenhouse gas producing country leaves the Paris 2015 agreement..... he can doom us all at once instead of doing it one country at a time What do you mean "not for lack of trying" ? Im not sure Clinton wanted peace with north Korea at all! Dunno. Did you miss Trump's rocket man speech? It wasn't exactly cute and cuddly. " What date was that? | |||
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