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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago

who would like free broadband for life that what one of the parties are going to try give us all but i say seeing is believing because they all tell lies even the ones who are in power right now

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"who would like free broadband for life that what one of the parties are going to try give us all but i say seeing is believing because they all tell lies even the ones who are in power right now "

Yes please. Free broadband all round, as long as there's free porn too

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By *manaWoman
over a year ago

Basingstoke

Kinda think food banks or the homeless should be more important

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Corbin just gave boris the win with that little bit of loonicy

i thought the monster raving loony party went extinct

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Kinda think food banks or the homeless should be more important "

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By *razytimesinloveCouple
over a year ago

SW Scotland


"Kinda think food banks or the homeless should be more important "

Yep more important things than getting broadband to everyone

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By *coptoCouple
over a year ago

Côte d'Azur & Great Yarmouth

Ever heard of IoT (the “Internet of Things”)? VERY important, broadband upgrade an absolute priority for the EU’s next seven year Multiannual Financial Framework if it’s to remain competitive with the rest of the world - with or without the UK’s contribution hah hah.

Of course, British politicians get it all wrong and/or fail to get the correct message across. But, in any case, we seem to be hell-bent on regressing to the 50s, so it doesn’t really matter, does it?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Ever heard of IoT (the “Internet of Things”)? VERY important, broadband upgrade an absolute priority for the EU’s next seven year Multiannual Financial Framework if it’s to remain competitive with the rest of the world - with or without the UK’s contribution hah hah.

Of course, British politicians get it all wrong and/or fail to get the correct message across. But, in any case, we seem to be hell-bent on regressing to the 50s, so it doesn’t really matter, does it?"

When I first heard it I thought what a stupid concept it was but having thought a bit more I can give you one scenario which absolutely would have made a difference - a friend of mine is married to a high flying nhs consultant and they were living in a beautiful converted barn in rural Somerset. The Nhs trialled a system whereby in the event of critical advice being needed they wanted to send diagnostic images to him so that he could monitor his patients and advise his house officers from home rather than having to make the 45 minute journey into the hospital. The system was already proven to work but the broadband connection was too unreliable to transmit the images in either enough resolution or fast enough and would freeze altogether at times. The only solution to the problem was to move back to the town the hospital was in. Now a lot of you will be saying first world problems but it meant uprooting the whole family from their village, schools and friends and having to start again. If there was a real chance of a reliable and fast broadband connection anywhere in the country then its perfectly feasible that people could work at distance and remain in the community they live in with the added benefit of keeping rural shops and pubs open and reducing the amount of unnecessary travel to and from work. Now you could argue that this reliance on social media and the interweb could make people become more local and less diverse in thinking but its not such a terrible idea in terms of greening for the future.

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Ever heard of IoT (the “Internet of Things”)? VERY important, broadband upgrade an absolute priority for the EU’s next seven year Multiannual Financial Framework if it’s to remain competitive with the rest of the world - with or without the UK’s contribution hah hah.

Of course, British politicians get it all wrong and/or fail to get the correct message across. But, in any case, we seem to be hell-bent on regressing to the 50s, so it doesn’t really matter, does it?"
when it comes to broadband uk are far behind the rest of the Europe it seem?

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By (user no longer on site) OP   
over a year ago


"Kinda think food banks or the homeless should be more important "
your right there but it come from normal people who give to food banks and none of the right place every give in to the food banks.

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By *oxychick35Couple
over a year ago

thornaby


"Kinda think food banks or the homeless should be more important your right there but it come from normal people who give to food banks and none of the right place every give in to the food banks."
exactly all the things to promise free broadband lol

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By *an For YouMan
over a year ago

belfast/holywood

Paying people for 5 days work but they only need to turn up for 4, free broadband, £1 trillion more borrowing. Typical clueless labour who would bankrupt the country like the last time they were in; they would have to leave another note in the Treasury again sorry but there’s no money left

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Paying people for 5 days work but they only need to turn up for 4, free broadband, £1 trillion more borrowing. Typical clueless labour who would bankrupt the country like the last time they were in; they would have to leave another note in the Treasury again sorry but there’s no money left "

You know that was a joke and aimed at the tories and their banker chums who caused the crash that led to all that necessary borrowing to stop the country being bankrupted by their malpractice. Stop ranting and start reading- it might give you some perspective!

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By *mmabluTV/TS
over a year ago

upton wirral


"Kinda think food banks or the homeless should be more important "
That's not a vote winner,it is offering candy to young voters just a big fat lie

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Kinda think food banks or the homeless should be more important That's not a vote winner,it is offering candy to young voters just a big fat lie"

The young are the future though aren’t they?

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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago

near ipswich


"Kinda think food banks or the homeless should be more important That's not a vote winner,it is offering candy to young voters just a big fat lie

The young are the future though aren’t they?"
yep they offered them free uni places last time then once they lost said well we didnt really mean it.

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By *otlovefun42Couple
over a year ago

Costa Blanca Spain...


"Corbin just gave boris the win with that little bit of loonicy

i thought the monster raving loony party went extinct "

Nah! They are still around.

Got someone called Santa Claurbyn in charge.

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By *nleashedCrakenMan
over a year ago

Widnes

To stream SD video you require about 0.6 Mbs

To stream HD video you require about 2.5 Mbs

To stream UHD video you require about 10 Mbs

Using currently technology with fiber backbone and copper to home (fiber to cabinet) you can get between 20 to 80 Mbs. This how most home broadband is currently delivered. There are two other widely used technologies in the UK which are the oldee full copper from the exchange to the home (0.2 to 80 Mbs) and full fiber to home which can deliver up to 900 Mbs.

Currently in the pipe line there are improvements being developed to deliver up to 300 Mbs via fiber to cabinet.

For most home use and small businesses 10 Mbs per user is more than sufficient. For most people this is adequately covered by the current fiber to cabinet technology and will be more than adequately covered by the planed upgrades offering up to 300 Mbs.

Providing everyone everywhere with 1 Gbs (1,000 Mbs) seems to me to be a bit of a waste of money.

Also, if this service is going to be provided for free then does that mean that, come budget time, it will competing with schools, hospitals, gas, water, railways, electricity, policy, military and social care for the money required to maintain the service?

I really can't see this working out well.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

No it was clearly implied that there would be a digital tax for the big corporations (Apple, Amazon, etc) which would go into a fund to help this project work. It's also nice to see a party take note and try and reverse the damage done by the Tories in the early 90's!

Britain was competing with Japan with plans to transform lines to fibre right across the country before Thatcher's influence caused the Tories to vote against it and state that copper lines were "good enough".

To think we could've been on the same level as Japan infrastructure wise with our networks by now if it wasn't for the Tories back then with their inability to think forward for the people.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Paying people for 5 days work but they only need to turn up for 4, free broadband, £1 trillion more borrowing. Typical clueless labour who would bankrupt the country like the last time they were in; they would have to leave another note in the Treasury again sorry but there’s no money left "

Don’t you want free broadband?

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By *an For YouMan
over a year ago

belfast/holywood


"Paying people for 5 days work but they only need to turn up for 4, free broadband, £1 trillion more borrowing. Typical clueless labour who would bankrupt the country like the last time they were in; they would have to leave another note in the Treasury again sorry but there’s no money left

Don’t you want free broadband? "

Yup, free broadband, 4 day week, 10p tax, no VAT, no waiting lists for NHS.... trouble is, it’s all pie in the sky bollocks; same as all labour financial policies

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


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Yup, free broadband, 4 day week, 10p tax, no VAT, no waiting lists for NHS.... trouble is, it’s all pie in the sky bollocks; same as all labour financial policies"

Ok, so just to signal the broadband aspect, Britain would be doing what plenty of other countries have done to upgrade their networks, why is that one impossible? I thought Britain was supposed to be the best?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Paying people for 5 days work but they only need to turn up for 4, free broadband, £1 trillion more borrowing. Typical clueless labour who would bankrupt the country like the last time they were in; they would have to leave another note in the Treasury again sorry but there’s no money left

Don’t you want free broadband?

Yup, free broadband, 4 day week, 10p tax, no VAT, no waiting lists for NHS.... trouble is, it’s all pie in the sky bollocks; same as all labour financial policies"

Don’t you want any of these things then?? What is Boris promising that you are looking forward to the most?

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By *oxychick35Couple
over a year ago

thornaby


"Kinda think food banks or the homeless should be more important That's not a vote winner,it is offering candy to young voters just a big fat lie"
id like to know how many young voters this would appeal to it’s not like they pay the broadband it’s there parents lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Kinda think food banks or the homeless should be more important That's not a vote winner,it is offering candy to young voters just a big fat lieid like to know how many young voters this would appeal to it’s not like they pay the broadband it’s there parents lol"

It appeals to all voters? Who doesn’t want free broadband? The government has to spend all the extra billions they will get from leaving the EU on something? Right ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Kinda think food banks or the homeless should be more important That's not a vote winner,it is offering candy to young voters just a big fat lie"

Why is it a lie ??

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By *oxychick35Couple
over a year ago

thornaby


"Kinda think food banks or the homeless should be more important That's not a vote winner,it is offering candy to young voters just a big fat lieid like to know how many young voters this would appeal to it’s not like they pay the broadband it’s there parents lol

It appeals to all voters? Who doesn’t want free broadband? The government has to spend all the extra billions they will get from leaving the EU on something? Right ? "
okies yer great I’ll save the money I spend on broadband and buy a villa in Spain I mean the saving a month are enough to make any one switch there vote lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Kinda think food banks or the homeless should be more important That's not a vote winner,it is offering candy to young voters just a big fat lieid like to know how many young voters this would appeal to it’s not like they pay the broadband it’s there parents lol

It appeals to all voters? Who doesn’t want free broadband? The government has to spend all the extra billions they will get from leaving the EU on something? Right ? okies yer great I’ll save the money I spend on broadband and buy a villa in Spain I mean the saving a month are enough to make any one switch there vote lol"

Buy but but, all those billions from leaving the EU? We will have so much extra money to spend ??And why buy a villa in Spain? Aren’t holidays Great Britain good enough for you

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By *oxychick35Couple
over a year ago

thornaby


"Kinda think food banks or the homeless should be more important That's not a vote winner,it is offering candy to young voters just a big fat lieid like to know how many young voters this would appeal to it’s not like they pay the broadband it’s there parents lol

It appeals to all voters? Who doesn’t want free broadband? The government has to spend all the extra billions they will get from leaving the EU on something? Right ? okies yer great I’ll save the money I spend on broadband and buy a villa in Spain I mean the saving a month are enough to make any one switch there vote lol

Buy but but, all those billions from leaving the EU? We will have so much extra money to spend ??And why buy a villa in Spain? Aren’t holidays Great Britain good enough for you "
pmsl mate have you seen our weather don’t mind a cheeky weekend in blackpool but that’s not really a holiday so what’s yr point or don’t you have one lol

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Kinda think food banks or the homeless should be more important That's not a vote winner,it is offering candy to young voters just a big fat lieid like to know how many young voters this would appeal to it’s not like they pay the broadband it’s there parents lol

It appeals to all voters? Who doesn’t want free broadband? The government has to spend all the extra billions they will get from leaving the EU on something? Right ? okies yer great I’ll save the money I spend on broadband and buy a villa in Spain I mean the saving a month are enough to make any one switch there vote lol

Buy but but, all those billions from leaving the EU? We will have so much extra money to spend ??And why buy a villa in Spain? Aren’t holidays Great Britain good enough for you pmsl mate have you seen our weather don’t mind a cheeky weekend in blackpool but that’s not really a holiday so what’s yr point or don’t you have one lol"

I have made my point, did you miss it

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By *oxychick35Couple
over a year ago

thornaby

I must of bud

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I must of bud "

Yeah, it was only a bit of banter. You do want free broadband though??

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By *oxychick35Couple
over a year ago

thornaby


"I must of bud

Yeah, it was only a bit of banter. You do want free broadband though??"
prefer free sky tbf bud now that mite tempt me lol

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By *alking HeadMan
over a year ago

Bolton

Its free...but what influence will successive governments have on what the provider can provide?

Sounds too easy to snoop on people.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Its free...but what influence will successive governments have on what the provider can provide?

Sounds too easy to snoop on people.

"

They already can snoop on you ,

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"I must of bud

Yeah, it was only a bit of banter. You do want free broadband though??prefer free sky tbf bud now that mite tempt me lol"

Use the money you save on broadband to get sky? Can JC rely on your vote on the 12th

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By *oxychick35Couple
over a year ago

thornaby


"I must of bud

Yeah, it was only a bit of banter. You do want free broadband though??prefer free sky tbf bud now that mite tempt me lol

Use the money you save on broadband to get sky? Can JC rely on your vote on the 12th "
i won’t save enough to get sky sports tho bud so jc can fuck right off lol

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By *an For YouMan
over a year ago

belfast/holywood


"

Yup, free broadband, 4 day week, 10p tax, no VAT, no waiting lists for NHS.... trouble is, it’s all pie in the sky bollocks; same as all labour financial policies

Ok, so just to signal the broadband aspect, Britain would be doing what plenty of other countries have done to upgrade their networks, why is that one impossible? I thought Britain was supposed to be the best? "

Cost. Free?

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By *ionaScarletTV/TS
over a year ago

Dundee


"To stream SD video you require about 0.6 Mbs

To stream HD video you require about 2.5 Mbs

To stream UHD video you require about 10 Mbs

Using currently technology with fiber backbone and copper to home (fiber to cabinet) you can get between 20 to 80 Mbs. This how most home broadband is currently delivered. There are two other widely used technologies in the UK which are the oldee full copper from the exchange to the home (0.2 to 80 Mbs) and full fiber to home which can deliver up to 900 Mbs.

Currently in the pipe line there are improvements being developed to deliver up to 300 Mbs via fiber to cabinet.

For most home use and small businesses 10 Mbs per user is more than sufficient. For most people this is adequately covered by the current fiber to cabinet technology and will be more than adequately covered by the planed upgrades offering up to 300 Mbs.

Providing everyone everywhere with 1 Gbs (1,000 Mbs) seems to me to be a bit of a waste of money.

Also, if this service is going to be provided for free then does that mean that, come budget time, it will competing with schools, hospitals, gas, water, railways, electricity, policy, military and social care for the money required to maintain the service?

I really can't see this working out well.

"

The founder of DEC - Ken Olsen - once said "There is no reason for any individual to have a computer in his home."

Later he said that the quote was taken out of context, and that he was referring not to PCs but to computers set up to control houses.

Bill Gates is often quoted as saying that "640KB of memory is enough for anybody". He didn't actually say that but something he did actually say was

"We always overestimate the change that will occur in the next two years and underestimate the change that will occur in the next 10. Don't let yourself be lulled into inaction."

I can't say what technology will require that kind of bandwidth in the next 10 years, but bear in mind that 10 years ago, Netflix "streaming" was done with DVDs and the postal service.

There may be many reasons why free gigabit broadband may be impractical, but I can absolutely assure you that YAGNI ("You Ain't Gonna Need It") is not one of them.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Haven’t we the British got more important issues to spend are hard earned pennies on (tax)??? Free WiFi for sounds amazing, yes. In reality will it be fast enough / better than using 4G etc?

Let’s sort leaving EU first, then spend money on police nhs housing jobs. Free WiFi for all?!?! We crazy! People find it too easy not work now never mind sit at home and watch YouTube all day for free and never mind catch up tv!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Haven’t we the British got more important issues to spend are hard earned pennies on (tax)??? Free WiFi for sounds amazing, yes. In reality will it be fast enough / better than using 4G etc?

Let’s sort leaving EU first, then spend money on police nhs housing jobs. Free WiFi for all?!?! We crazy! People find it too easy not work now never mind sit at home and watch YouTube all day for free and never mind catch up tv! "

It's not one or the other though, that's the point, specific taxes can be passed to create a fund to do this, Britain is already behind a lot of countries in this regard when we were the damn ones who helped plan it! Before the Tory government in the early 90's shot it down and set us back decades network wise.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Haven’t we the British got more important issues to spend are hard earned pennies on (tax)??? Free WiFi for sounds amazing, yes. In reality will it be fast enough / better than using 4G etc?

Let’s sort leaving EU first, then spend money on police nhs housing jobs. Free WiFi for all?!?! We crazy! People find it too easy not work now never mind sit at home and watch YouTube all day for free and never mind catch up tv!

It's not one or the other though, that's the point, specific taxes can be passed to create a fund to do this, Britain is already behind a lot of countries in this regard when we were the damn ones who helped plan it! Before the Tory government in the early 90's shot it down and set us back decades network wise."
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I knew it would be a tinfoil hat wearing Tory conspiracy.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"To stream SD video you require about 0.6 Mbs

To stream HD video you require about 2.5 Mbs

To stream UHD video you require about 10 Mbs

Using currently technology with fiber backbone and copper to home (fiber to cabinet) you can get between 20 to 80 Mbs. This how most home broadband is currently delivered. There are two other widely used technologies in the UK which are the oldee full copper from the exchange to the home (0.2 to 80 Mbs) and full fiber to home which can deliver up to 900 Mbs.

Currently in the pipe line there are improvements being developed to deliver up to 300 Mbs via fiber to cabinet.

For most home use and small businesses 10 Mbs per user is more than sufficient. For most people this is adequately covered by the current fiber to cabinet technology and will be more than adequately covered by the planed upgrades offering up to 300 Mbs.

Providing everyone everywhere with 1 Gbs (1,000 Mbs) seems to me to be a bit of a waste of money.

Also, if this service is going to be provided for free then does that mean that, come budget time, it will competing with schools, hospitals, gas, water, railways, electricity, policy, military and social care for the money required to maintain the service?

I really can't see this working out well.

The founder of DEC - Ken Olsen - once said "There is no reason for any individual to have a computer in his home."

Later he said that the quote was taken out of context, and that he was referring not to PCs but to computers set up to control houses.

Bill Gates is often quoted as saying that "640KB of memory is enough for anybody". He didn't actually say that but something he did actually say was

"We always overestimate the change that will occur in the next two years and underestimate the change that will occur in the next 10. Don't let yourself be lulled into inaction."

I can't say what technology will require that kind of bandwidth in the next 10 years, but bear in mind that 10 years ago, Netflix "streaming" was done with DVDs and the postal service.

There may be many reasons why free gigabit broadband may be impractical, but I can absolutely assure you that YAGNI ("You Ain't Gonna Need It") is not one of them.

"
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The same bill gates who flew on Epstein's Lolita express?.

Yea his advice is crucial and impartial

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

This is the technocracy Bobby boy was talking about putting his faith in... That and the end of the world cultist bollocks of ER

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Who's going to pay for it?

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By *teveanddebsCouple
over a year ago

Norwich

Free broadband by 2030? Pah! I waited up until 2330 and zilch.

More Labour lies

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

In principle it is a giod idea, but we would still be paying providers so the cost would suddenly become absorbed in their subscriptions. Basically an empty promise. I for one would rather see the money going into schools.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Who's going to pay for it? "

We all will, just less than we are paying now.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"To stream SD video you require about 0.6 Mbs

To stream HD video you require about 2.5 Mbs

To stream UHD video you require about 10 Mbs

Using currently technology with fiber backbone and copper to home (fiber to cabinet) you can get between 20 to 80 Mbs. This how most home broadband is currently delivered. There are two other widely used technologies in the UK which are the oldee full copper from the exchange to the home (0.2 to 80 Mbs) and full fiber to home which can deliver up to 900 Mbs.

Currently in the pipe line there are improvements being developed to deliver up to 300 Mbs via fiber to cabinet.

For most home use and small businesses 10 Mbs per user is more than sufficient. For most people this is adequately covered by the current fiber to cabinet technology and will be more than adequately covered by the planed upgrades offering up to 300 Mbs.

Providing everyone everywhere with 1 Gbs (1,000 Mbs) seems to me to be a bit of a waste of money.

Also, if this service is going to be provided for free then does that mean that, come budget time, it will competing with schools, hospitals, gas, water, railways, electricity, policy, military and social care for the money required to maintain the service?

I really can't see this working out well.

The founder of DEC - Ken Olsen - once said "There is no reason for any individual to have a computer in his home."

Later he said that the quote was taken out of context, and that he was referring not to PCs but to computers set up to control houses.

Bill Gates is often quoted as saying that "640KB of memory is enough for anybody". He didn't actually say that but something he did actually say was

"We always overestimate the change that will occur in the next two years and underestimate the change that will occur in the next 10. Don't let yourself be lulled into inaction."

I can't say what technology will require that kind of bandwidth in the next 10 years, but bear in mind that 10 years ago, Netflix "streaming" was done with DVDs and the postal service.

There may be many reasons why free gigabit broadband may be impractical, but I can absolutely assure you that YAGNI ("You Ain't Gonna Need It") is not one of them.

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The same bill gates who flew on Epstein's Lolita express?.

Yea his advice is crucial and impartial "

The same Bill Gates who has given away $40 billion to charity

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Jimmy Saville did a lot for charity

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Haven’t we the British got more important issues to spend are hard earned pennies on (tax)??? Free WiFi for sounds amazing, yes. In reality will it be fast enough / better than using 4G etc?

Let’s sort leaving EU first, then spend money on police nhs housing jobs. Free WiFi for all?!?! We crazy! People find it too easy not work now never mind sit at home and watch YouTube all day for free and never mind catch up tv! "

Or even better. Cancel brexit. And use the money we've been flushing away on it for the last three years on schools, policing,NHS, housing, jobs AND free WiFi.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"In principle it is a giod idea, but we would still be paying providers so the cost would suddenly become absorbed in their subscriptions. Basically an empty promise. I for one would rather see the money going into schools."

Think about it though, state sponsored broadband, that way government can control what people can and cannot access.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"In principle it is a giod idea, but we would still be paying providers so the cost would suddenly become absorbed in their subscriptions. Basically an empty promise. I for one would rather see the money going into schools.

Think about it though, state sponsored broadband, that way government can control what people can and cannot access. "

Be an end to sites like this then

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"In principle it is a giod idea, but we would still be paying providers so the cost would suddenly become absorbed in their subscriptions. Basically an empty promise. I for one would rather see the money going into schools.

Think about it though, state sponsored broadband, that way government can control what people can and cannot access. "

Do state sponsored roads decide your direction of travel...

You guys realise GCHQ can already intercept web traffic and look at your history of porn watching...

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By *ionaScarletTV/TS
over a year ago

Dundee


"In principle it is a giod idea, but we would still be paying providers so the cost would suddenly become absorbed in their subscriptions. Basically an empty promise. I for one would rather see the money going into schools.

Think about it though, state sponsored broadband, that way government can control what people can and cannot access. "

The flip side of that of course is that it may be a positive step in favour of net neutrality.

Big tech will not be able to throttle out its competition by doing deals with service providers, and smaller services will have a level playing field upon which to compete.

It's a double-edged sword - I will absolutely grant you that. But I find the prospect of what we can access online being under democratic control rather than in the hands of private enterprise somewhat appealing

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By *omaMan
over a year ago

Glasgow


"Kinda think food banks or the homeless should be more important That's not a vote winner,it is offering candy to young voters just a big fat lie

The young are the future though aren’t they?"

I think the clue is in the words 'candy' and 'big fat lie' . . . Duh

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By *mmabluTV/TS
over a year ago

upton wirral


"Kinda think food banks or the homeless should be more important That's not a vote winner,it is offering candy to young voters just a big fat lie

The young are the future though aren’t they?"
Heaven help us then lol.

When young you want things and tend to be idealistic but as you mature you gain experience and your views change because you learn in life.

People fail in life they vote labour if they are successful they vote tory in the main.Ok a simplification but true

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Kinda think food banks or the homeless should be more important That's not a vote winner,it is offering candy to young voters just a big fat lie

The young are the future though aren’t they?Heaven help us then lol.

When young you want things and tend to be idealistic but as you mature you gain experience and your views change because you learn in life.

People fail in life they vote labour if they are successful they vote tory in the main.Ok a simplification but true"

I think you are talking failure of imagination dearie - there are quite a lot of very successful people who vote labour because they believe in doing good and dare I say it morals.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Who's going to pay for it? "

Part tax on us and mainly from a new fund set up by a digital tax on the companies that rely on the internet but don't pay any taxes at all (Apple, Amazon, Google, etc).

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"

People fail in life they vote labour if they are successful they vote tory in the main.Ok a simplification but true"

Did you vote labour a lot then since you're counted as a failure and a sick joke to Tories? As a TS/TV it always amazes us how you dodge that one considering Boris himself even said trans people are just funny jokes and a bit wrong in the head.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Kinda think food banks or the homeless should be more important That's not a vote winner,it is offering candy to young voters just a big fat lie

The young are the future though aren’t they?Heaven help us then lol.

When young you want things and tend to be idealistic but as you mature you gain experience and your views change because you learn in life.

People fail in life they vote labour if they are successful they vote tory in the main.Ok a simplification but true"

Do you vote for the Tories?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Jimmy Saville did a lot for charity "

Exactly, so what is your point ?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"who would like free broadband for life that what one of the parties are going to try give us all but i say seeing is believing because they all tell lies even the ones who are in power right now

Yes please. Free broadband all round, as long as there's free porn too "

There's lots of free porn already. Not hard to find is it ? Thing is if it's provided free I bet you a bottom dollar that there will be a lot less freedom to browse what you want. Uncle Jeremy's successor will be watching you and he might be a bit more like Chairman Xi and stop you watching what you want to watch.

Another Question is when does it become free. Do we have to wait for 2030 when it's all beautifully installed across the country or will it happen in Dribs and drabs. What about the virgin network ? NTL took the risk didn't they and then Virgin bought them out. Can't imagine it'll do their share price much good.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"who would like free broadband for life that what one of the parties are going to try give us all but i say seeing is believing because they all tell lies even the ones who are in power right now

Yes please. Free broadband all round, as long as there's free porn too

There's lots of free porn already. Not hard to find is it ? Thing is if it's provided free I bet you a bottom dollar that there will be a lot less freedom to browse what you want. Uncle Jeremy's successor will be watching you and he might be a bit more like Chairman Xi and stop you watching what you want to watch.

Another Question is when does it become free. Do we have to wait for 2030 when it's all beautifully installed across the country or will it happen in Dribs and drabs. What about the virgin network ? NTL took the risk didn't they and then Virgin bought them out. Can't imagine it'll do their share price much good."

Do you want free broadband or not ??

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

State run internet?

No thanks

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By *hechairman18Man
over a year ago

Salford Quays , Manchester

This reminds me of the old sayng,

"There's no such thing a a FREE lunch"

It's intended as a vote winer, just as he told the students he would sort tuition fees out.

Today, they as saying FREE dental checks for all.

Have you tried to find a Dentist.

Where will they get the extra staff needed.

I predict the next vote winner, will be FREE bus travel for all

Perhaps that or something similar, will make the gullible realise, it's all pie in the sky.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Jimmy Saville did a lot for charity

Exactly, so what is your point ? "

Read the post above it

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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago

near ipswich


"Jimmy Saville did a lot for charity "
Its 5 years now he touched so many.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Jimmy Saville did a lot for charity

Exactly, so what is your point ?

Read the post above it "

I did, Are you suggesting that because Jimmy Saville gave to charity that everyone else who does the same is a peado?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"This reminds me of the old sayng,

"There's no such thing a a FREE lunch"

It's intended as a vote winer, just as he told the students he would sort tuition fees out.

Today, they as saying FREE dental checks for all.

Have you tried to find a Dentist.

Where will they get the extra staff needed.

I predict the next vote winner, will be FREE bus travel for all

Perhaps that or something similar, will make the gullible realise, it's all pie in the sky."

Don’t you want free dental care? Will you vote conservative?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Jimmy Saville did a lot for charity

Exactly, so what is your point ?

Read the post above it

I did, Are you suggesting that because Jimmy Saville gave to charity that everyone else who does the same is a peado? "

Reading is pointless if you can't comprenend what you are reading. Read the thread again, someone made Bill Gates out to be such a great person because he did a lot for charity, I pointed out the error of their ways concisely and swiftly. Unfortunately there is one person who can't quite understand it. Try picking an arguement with someone else, because you are never going to win this one.

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

Central

It's reasonable that multi billion earning tech companies pay their way. And it would make sense for them to fund Internet services to be improved so that the UK doesn't continue to fall behind.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Jimmy Saville did a lot for charity

Exactly, so what is your point ?

Read the post above it

I did, Are you suggesting that because Jimmy Saville gave to charity that everyone else who does the same is a peado?

Reading is pointless if you can't comprenend what you are reading. Read the thread again, someone made Bill Gates out to be such a great person because he did a lot for charity, I pointed out the error of their ways concisely and swiftly. Unfortunately there is one person who can't quite understand it. Try picking an arguement with someone else, because you are never going to win this one."

Chill out , you are taking this forum and yourself far to seriously

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By *ara JTV/TS
over a year ago

Bristol East


"Paying people for 5 days work but they only need to turn up for 4, free broadband, £1 trillion more borrowing. Typical clueless labour who would bankrupt the country like the last time they were in; they would have to leave another note in the Treasury again sorry but there’s no money left "

I can only imagine your reaction when someone came up with the idea of nationalising the availability of books.

"Public Libraries? No, no, that'll bankrupt us."

Thank fook for people with vision, rather than parsimony.

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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago

near ipswich


"Paying people for 5 days work but they only need to turn up for 4, free broadband, £1 trillion more borrowing. Typical clueless labour who would bankrupt the country like the last time they were in; they would have to leave another note in the Treasury again sorry but there’s no money left

I can only imagine your reaction when someone came up with the idea of nationalising the availability of books.

"Public Libraries? No, no, that'll bankrupt us."

Thank fook for people with vision, rather than parsimony.

"
That must win the worse comparison award of the year have you been drinking?

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By *ara JTV/TS
over a year ago

Bristol East

Hiccup

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Jimmy Saville did a lot for charity

Exactly, so what is your point ?

Read the post above it

I did, Are you suggesting that because Jimmy Saville gave to charity that everyone else who does the same is a peado?

Reading is pointless if you can't comprenend what you are reading. Read the thread again, someone made Bill Gates out to be such a great person because he did a lot for charity, I pointed out the error of their ways concisely and swiftly. Unfortunately there is one person who can't quite understand it. Try picking an arguement with someone else, because you are never going to win this one.

Chill out , you are taking this forum and yourself far to seriously "

You always do that when you make yourself look stupid More chilling out from me

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