FabSwingers.com forum: Britain Deserves Better

By *ara J OP TV/TS
over a year ago

Bristol East

This is the campaign slogan for the General Election campaign of the Conservative and Unionist Party.

I agree - after 9 years of their policies, we do indeed deserve better.

What do you think?

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

An own goal of a slogan as they've been the ones in charge, so campaigning that Britain deserves better if they were in charge is a tad fuck up, like guys, IF? You ARE in charge.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Yes we do, stop brexit

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

Well that helps me in deciding who not to vote for so I will follow our Prime Ministers advice that we deserve better and will vote for whoever I think will damage the Conservatives chances of continuing their wrecking run on our great country

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By *ophieslutTV/TS
over a year ago

Central

It neatly sums up them and Farage's parties too.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"This is the campaign slogan for the General Election campaign of the Conservative and Unionist Party.

I agree - after 9 years of their policies, we do indeed deserve better.

What do you think?

Very true!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It's hilariously stupid.

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By *ara J OP TV/TS
over a year ago

Bristol East

We deserve better

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By *asyukMan
over a year ago

West London

"This is the campaign slogan for the General Election campaign of the Conservative and Unionist Party.

I agree - after 9 years of their policies, we do indeed deserve better.

What do you think?

This is what happens when the "Establishment elite" gets to fight against the "Establishment elite"

However, cognitive dissonance has become a national characteristic so it works.

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By *ara J OP TV/TS
over a year ago

Bristol East

Yes, when the Johnsons, the Rees-Moggs and Farages try to reposition themselves as men of the people up against Establishment forces, we are well and truly down a rabbit hole.

That said, the polarity of politics is shifting.

England is going the same way as Northern Ireland and Scotland.

Voting in Northern Ireland for generations has been polarised by nationalism - Irish nationalism on one side and British nationalism, or unionism, on the other.

Scotland has gone the same way - voting polarised by Scottish nationalism on the one hand, and British unionism on the other.

Nationalism now appears to be the big dividing line in English politics.

It is not a characteristic that Labour finds comfortable at all.

It's been squeezed to the margins in Scotland by the polarisation of nationalism/unionism and it is finding it hard to create the space for itself amidst the rising tide of nationalism in England.

In one sense, England is simply catching up with Northern Ireland and Scotland - a country beset by the forces of nationalism,

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By *V-AliceTV/TS
over a year ago

Ayr

"This is the campaign slogan for the General Election campaign of the Conservative and Unionist Party.

I agree - after 9 years of their policies, we do indeed deserve better.

What do you think?

We do deserve better but I'm pretty sure the majority of us won't get it; despite the huge amounts of money we're being assured will be spent after 12th December.

Brexit is going to happen. The pie is going to become smaller. The economy won't be large enough to sustain the election "promises" on spending. Priorities will change.

Better? Different day - same old shit.

Sadly.

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By *ara J OP TV/TS
over a year ago

Bristol East

It's called "fiscal stimulus".

You know, that thing the Tories say they hated about Labour?

Well, it's exactly what they are lining up to do themselves.

Borrowing ever-larger sums of money for public spending to offset the shortfall in the economy in order to stimulate growth to generate new tax revenues.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

I am so disengaged at the moment I don't trust any of them and they band about democracy but we vote and they ignore it. How is that democracy. Do any of you actually believe that anyone of the parties will deliver on their manifesto I think not x

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By *ara J OP TV/TS
over a year ago

Bristol East

But surely that is why we have a cycle of elections.

Parties publish a manifesto.

Voters get to choose.

The successful party gets a few years - usually - to implement that manifesto.

If they feel the incumbent didn't do what they promised, they can withdraw their support.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"But surely that is why we have a cycle of elections.

Parties publish a manifesto.

Voters get to choose.

The successful party gets a few years - usually - to implement that manifesto.

Every one of them regade

If they feel the incumbent didn't do what they promised, they can withdraw their support.

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By *ostafunMan
over a year ago

near ipswich

"But surely that is why we have a cycle of elections.

Parties publish a manifesto.

Voters get to choose.

The successful party gets a few years - usually - to implement that manifesto.

Every one of them regade

If they feel the incumbent didn't do what they promised, they can withdraw their support.

Every one of them went back on their manifestos in 2017. We have had lies and broken promises and bribes to the electerite people that have switched parties. Plus all we get is the blame game and one up man's ship. Party before country. "
To be fair the lib/dems didnt they never said they would respect the referendum probably why they won so few seats.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"But surely that is why we have a cycle of elections.

Parties publish a manifesto.

Voters get to choose.

The successful party gets a few years - usually - to implement that manifesto.

Every one of them regade

If they feel the incumbent didn't do what they promised, they can withdraw their support.

Every one of them went back on their manifestos in 2017. We have had lies and broken promises and bribes to the electerite people that have switched parties. Plus all we get is the blame game and one up man's ship. Party before country. To be fair the lib/dems didnt they never said they would respect the referendum probably why they won so few seats."

They have also said that if we have a people's vote that they still would not agree again if leavers won the vote again. How is that democracy.

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By *ara J OP TV/TS
over a year ago

Bristol East

"But surely that is why we have a cycle of elections.

Parties publish a manifesto.

Voters get to choose.

The successful party gets a few years - usually - to implement that manifesto.

Every one of them regade

If they feel the incumbent didn't do what they promised, they can withdraw their support.

Only one party ever gets the opportunity to implement its manifesto in full (partially if in coalition).

To complain that parties who lost the last election didn't implement their manifestoes is . . . well, that's just bizarre.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"But surely that is why we have a cycle of elections.

Parties publish a manifesto.

Voters get to choose.

The successful party gets a few years - usually - to implement that manifesto.

Every one of them regade

If they feel the incumbent didn't do what they promised, they can withdraw their support.

Only one party ever gets the opportunity to implement its manifesto in full (partially if in coalition).

To complain that parties who lost the last election didn't implement their manifestoes is . . . well, that's just bizarre.

3 years on no Brexit more austerity more food banks more homeless more in work poverty yep they are doing a Stella job. 9 years of conservative mess and before that labour sending us on the brink of bankruptcy x

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By *ara J OP TV/TS
over a year ago

Bristol East

Yes, in weighing up the record of the Conservative administration, you need to examine what was promised in its 2017 manifesto and what was actually delivered.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"But surely that is why we have a cycle of elections.

Parties publish a manifesto.

Voters get to choose.

The successful party gets a few years - usually - to implement that manifesto.

Every one of them regade

If they feel the incumbent didn't do what they promised, they can withdraw their support.

Only one party ever gets the opportunity to implement its manifesto in full (partially if in coalition).

To complain that parties who lost the last election didn't implement their manifestoes is . . . well, that's just bizarre.

And yet this is what leavers voted for.

Except the labour part that you made up.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

On the OP: they really didn't think when they came up with that slogan. Hilarious!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"But surely that is why we have a cycle of elections.

Parties publish a manifesto.

Voters get to choose.

The successful party gets a few years - usually - to implement that manifesto.

Every one of them regade

If they feel the incumbent didn't do what they promised, they can withdraw their support.

Every one of them went back on their manifestos in 2017. We have had lies and broken promises and bribes to the electerite people that have switched parties. Plus all we get is the blame game and one up man's ship. Party before country. To be fair the lib/dems didnt they never said they would respect the referendum probably why they won so few seats.

They have also said that if we have a people's vote that they still would not agree again if leavers won the vote again. How is that democracy."

The Lib Dems could only be "undemocratic" in your view if enough people voted for them to put them in Government for them to be in a position to scrap Brexit and by then they would have a mandate to do so from the electorate so it would be democratic

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By *ara J OP TV/TS
over a year ago

Bristol East

We certainly do need better than the fake news being issued by the Conservative Party.

For the second time in a few days, a video clip seeking to smear the Labour Party has been exposed as false.

The party that wants to run the country is fundamentally dishonest.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

It’s to be expected that a dirty digital war will be waged.

I hope when the conservatives go low the Labour Party and others go high.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"This is the campaign slogan for the General Election campaign of the Conservative and Unionist Party.

I agree - after 9 years of their policies, we do indeed deserve better.

What do you think?

Preach! We need fresh thinking not the tired slogans

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By *mmabluTV/TS
over a year ago

upton wirral

"This is the campaign slogan for the General Election campaign of the Conservative and Unionist Party.

I agree - after 9 years of their policies, we do indeed deserve better.

What do you think?

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Yes sort Brexit and move forward,sadly the alternatives to the tories are all worse than Boris

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By *ercuryMan
over a year ago

Grantham

New strap line for the Conservatives.....

"Unleash Britain's Potential"

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"This is the campaign slogan for the General Election campaign of the Conservative and Unionist Party.

I agree - after 9 years of their policies, we do indeed deserve better.

What do you think?

Yes sort Brexit and move forward,sadly the alternatives to the tories are all worse than Boris"

"Sort brexit out and move forward".

That's an oxymoron.

You can either sort brexit out and drag us back to the 70s. Or cancel brexit and move forwards.

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"New strap line for the Conservatives.....

"Unleash Britain's Potential" "

The should just be honest.

"Conservatives. Fuck the lot of you so long as us and our rich eton mates can get more money (you morons vote for us no matter what we do!)."

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