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"Could she be any worse than that pair? " She's got potential i reckon, and wouldn't like to find out. | |||
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"Fit to be a PM? all I've heard her say is bojo and jc aren't fit to be pm but she is! "Personally, I think is more interested in being the leader of a failed party. Still cannot forgive the Lib Dem’s for helping austerity, and ruining this country for the past decade. Plus they are a wasted vote party. | |||
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"Fit to be a PM? all I've heard her say is bojo and jc aren't fit to be pm but she is!
Personally, I think is more interested in being the leader of a failed party. Still cannot forgive the Lib Dem’s for helping austerity, and ruining this country for the past decade. Plus they are a wasted vote party.
"This snd what will69 said. Plus i get bad vibes from her when seeing her talking, not what she says but how she says it.. Her mannerisms.. Cannt put my finger on why but sets alarm bells away for me. | |||
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"Fit to be a PM? all I've heard her say is bojo and jc aren't fit to be pm but she is!
Personally, I think is more interested in being the leader of a failed party. Still cannot forgive the Lib Dem’s for helping austerity, and ruining this country for the past decade. Plus they are a wasted vote party.
This snd what will69 said.
Plus i get bad vibes from her when seeing her talking, not what she says but how she says it.. Her mannerisms.. Cannt put my finger on why but sets alarm bells away for me. "Wow! I'm not the only one who's noticed it then. | |||
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"Fit to be a PM? all I've heard her say is bojo and jc aren't fit to be pm but she is!
Personally, I think is more interested in being the leader of a failed party. Still cannot forgive the Lib Dem’s for helping austerity, and ruining this country for the past decade. Plus they are a wasted vote party.
This snd what will69 said.
Plus i get bad vibes from her when seeing her talking, not what she says but how she says it.. Her mannerisms.. Cannt put my finger on why but sets alarm bells away for me.
Wow! I'm not the only one who's noticed it then."But in comparison to Nigel and Boris, she's benign. Their open sophistry, bluster, bullying, and lies are in another league She is a wet Tory, She won't be PM but she will be a credible choice for disaffected tory voters. Her voting record is conservative, They could well pick up a few seats from the conservatives. | |||
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"Fit to be a PM? all I've heard her say is bojo and jc aren't fit to be pm but she is!
Personally, I think is more interested in being the leader of a failed party. Still cannot forgive the Lib Dem’s for helping austerity, and ruining this country for the past decade. Plus they are a wasted vote party.
This snd what will69 said.
Plus i get bad vibes from her when seeing her talking, not what she says but how she says it.. Her mannerisms.. Cannt put my finger on why but sets alarm bells away for me.
Wow! I'm not the only one who's noticed it then.
But in comparison to Nigel and Boris, she's benign. Their open sophistry, bluster, bullying, and lies are in another league She is a wet Tory, She won't be PM but she will be a credible choice for disaffected tory voters. Her voting record is conservative, They could well pick up a few seats from the conservatives."she might lose her seat she did before.  | |||
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"Fit to be a PM? all I've heard her say is bojo and jc aren't fit to be pm but she is!
Personally, I think is more interested in being the leader of a failed party. Still cannot forgive the Lib Dem’s for helping austerity, and ruining this country for the past decade. Plus they are a wasted vote party.
This snd what will69 said.
Plus i get bad vibes from her when seeing her talking, not what she says but how she says it.. Her mannerisms.. Cannt put my finger on why but sets alarm bells away for me.
Wow! I'm not the only one who's noticed it then.
But in comparison to Nigel and Boris, she's benign. Their open sophistry, bluster, bullying, and lies are in another league She is a wet Tory, She won't be PM but she will be a credible choice for disaffected tory voters. Her voting record is conservative, They could well pick up a few seats from the conservatives.she might lose her seat she did before. "If her last general election figures are anything to go, thats going to be a hard one for the SNP. All the lib-dems suffered by being cameron's human shields. Her seat loss was the result of disfavour with a major LibDem funder but that was along time ago and there are bigger fish to fry. If the LibDems do end up as kingmakers, I expect they will be smarter than before. The other USP for the LibDems is the promise of a second referendum, they have been very clear about that so they may well pick up some of the younger vote. Amber Rudd won her hastings seat by 346 votes, Swinson won her east dunbartonshire seat by 5349. | |||
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"Fit to be a PM? all I've heard her say is bojo and jc aren't fit to be pm but she is!
Personally, I think is more interested in being the leader of a failed party. Still cannot forgive the Lib Dem’s for helping austerity, and ruining this country for the past decade. Plus they are a wasted vote party.
This snd what will69 said.
Plus i get bad vibes from her when seeing her talking, not what she says but how she says it.. Her mannerisms.. Cannt put my finger on why but sets alarm bells away for me.
Wow! I'm not the only one who's noticed it then.
But in comparison to Nigel and Boris, she's benign. Their open sophistry, bluster, bullying, and lies are in another league She is a wet Tory, She won't be PM but she will be a credible choice for disaffected tory voters. Her voting record is conservative, They could well pick up a few seats from the conservatives.
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"She is a college kid and and non democtratic but I respect her honsesty,she seems an honest politition.Of course this is why she will fail,people do not vote for sincere people. Also she is non democratic and pip headed" That hypocrisy again. The lie led the country to all this shit. People will be smarter this time. | |||
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"For me it's really simple. If you want to stop BREXIT, any BREXIT, soft, hard, clean, crashout or anything else then you should vote LibDem if they stand any chance of winning in your constituency or if the incumbent is so secure that it doesn't matter which of the other candidates you vote for. The only exception to this, if you want the most Remain Parliament and the most Remain mandate possible, is in the situation where voting Green, plaid cymru or possibly SNP and some Labour might remove a Conservative BREXITER. This really is the last chance for Remain. If we don't vote for Remain candidates this time we will be Leaving on 31 Jan 2020." I will add that the younger generation must want to go to vote. Without them LibDem will not win the election. | |||
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"For me it's really simple. If you want to stop BREXIT, any BREXIT, soft, hard, clean, crashout or anything else then you should vote LibDem if they stand any chance of winning in your constituency or if the incumbent is so secure that it doesn't matter which of the other candidates you vote for. The only exception to this, if you want the most Remain Parliament and the most Remain mandate possible, is in the situation where voting Green, plaid cymru or possibly SNP and some Labour might remove a Conservative BREXITER. This really is the last chance for Remain. If we don't vote for Remain candidates this time we will be Leaving on 31 Jan 2020." and not before time. | |||
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"Fit to be a PM? all I've heard her say is bojo and jc aren't fit to be pm but she is! "Presumably she’s said more than you’ve heard her say? Did you not hear her say she wanted to revoke Article 50 for example? You know that bit about the Romans in Life of Brian?  | |||
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" This really is the last chance for Remain. If we don't vote for Remain candidates this time we will be Leaving on 31 Jan 2020." December 31 this year, according to the front of The Sun newspaper today, if the Tories get their way. | |||
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"I think the liberals could severely dent Corbyns vote hopefully ! Tho Farage may do the same to Boris ?" Boris is going to be attacked on both flanks. Farage will be going after the 'swivel eyed loons' and 'get brexit done' wing. The Lib Dems will be going for the wet end of the Tory vote. The DUP have close links to Leave.eu and farage, they will be thinking that combined they will be able to steer the conservative party to their thinking. | |||
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"All she seeks to do is attack based on race and gender. She's atrocious. " . This, she's Tommy Robinson's Dopple ganger. | |||
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"She's got the best tits. " yes agree superb pair, where as Boris is a big TIT.  | |||
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"Just seen Jo Swinson on TV. She says their Brexit policy is clear that they are a remain party, fair enough. But Can I trust them to actually hold this so called "People's vote", which is bound to end up being a binary choice between a so called deal that they as a remain party have negotiated Ha ha and their version of remain. It's a bit farcical really and once again exposes the argument that another binary vote on Brexit really is just a waste of time and effort. I am thinking voting for any of these showers of shit really is a waste of time. My gut feeling is turnout for this election could be below 60% and even near to 50%." Perhaps they are the least worst showers of shit though. This election is about deciding who is the least worst shower of shit isn't it ? | |||
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"Just seen Jo Swinson on TV. She says their Brexit policy is clear that they are a remain party, fair enough. But Can I trust them to actually hold this so called "People's vote", which is bound to end up being a binary choice between a so called deal that they as a remain party have negotiated Ha ha and their version of remain. It's a bit farcical really and once again exposes the argument that another binary vote on Brexit really is just a waste of time and effort. I am thinking voting for any of these showers of shit really is a waste of time. My gut feeling is turnout for this election could be below 60% and even near to 50%. Perhaps they are the least worst showers of shit though. This election is about deciding who is the least worst shower of shit isn't it ?" There is no denying Swinsons credibility can appear questionable and her voting record is pure tory. The only thing they have to offer is a protest vote for tory voters opposed to Boris and brexit. If she reneges on her pledge to revoke article 50, the lib dems are finished. She really has to put distance between herself and the conservatives. | |||
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" There is no denying Swinsons credibility can appear questionable and her voting record is pure tory. The only thing they have to offer is a protest vote for tory voters opposed to Boris and brexit. If she reneges on her pledge to revoke article 50, the lib dems are finished. She really has to put distance between herself and the conservatives." If she became the king maker in a lab lib coalition then she'd most probably have to reduce her A50 revocation pledge to a 2nd referendum instead | |||
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"Her voting record in parliament would suggest not. Her unwillingness to help Labour in Labour/Tory marginals is quite revealing too. Not that I'm a massive fan of Corbyn, I just think for remain to have a bigger say they have to first defeat the tories and Labour doing well is the only way this is possible. " I agree. If she's serious about stopping brexit why is she so determined to divide parties and weaken their chances to do that | |||
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" There is no denying Swinsons credibility can appear questionable and her voting record is pure tory. The only thing they have to offer is a protest vote for tory voters opposed to Boris and brexit. If she reneges on her pledge to revoke article 50, the lib dems are finished. She really has to put distance between herself and the conservatives. If she became the king maker in a lab lib coalition then she'd most probably have to reduce her A50 revocation pledge to a 2nd referendum instead " Which would be a load of old cobblers binary vote which would cost 120 Million for naff all so why bother at all. It makes no sense. It is riddle me Ree stuff. | |||
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"Her voting record in parliament would suggest not. Her unwillingness to help Labour in Labour/Tory marginals is quite revealing too. Not that I'm a massive fan of Corbyn, I just think for remain to have a bigger say they have to first defeat the tories and Labour doing well is the only way this is possible. I agree. If she's serious about stopping brexit why is she so determined to divide parties and weaken their chances to do that" That's an easy one to answer. Our voting system is totally unfair to smaller parties. It's called the third party squeeze and will ever remain so with FPP. | |||
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"Her voting record in parliament would suggest not. Her unwillingness to help Labour in Labour/Tory marginals is quite revealing too. Not that I'm a massive fan of Corbyn, I just think for remain to have a bigger say they have to first defeat the tories and Labour doing well is the only way this is possible. I agree. If she's serious about stopping brexit why is she so determined to divide parties and weaken their chances to do that" You can look at it in different ways I think she is more a threat to conservatives than labour. At the same time she knows that Corbyn is toxic to any tory protest votes and wet tories, so publicly aligning or entering into a pact with labour would do her no favours, so she has to keep a distance from JC for now. Lets say that after the election they are in position to be Kingmakers. What would she do, try and neuter the tories, run the risk of being tory human shields again or give labour a call saying its time to put national interests above party. Labours first choice of coalition partners would be the SNP and swinson knows this. The SNP are about the party that are guaranteed to do well in the election, its just a question of how well they would do. | |||
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"She's got the best tits. yes agree superb pair, where as Boris is a big TIT. " | |||
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"Her voting record in parliament would suggest not. Her unwillingness to help Labour in Labour/Tory marginals is quite revealing too. Not that I'm a massive fan of Corbyn, I just think for remain to have a bigger say they have to first defeat the tories and Labour doing well is the only way this is possible. I agree. If she's serious about stopping brexit why is she so determined to divide parties and weaken their chances to do that You can look at it in different ways I think she is more a threat to conservatives than labour. At the same time she knows that Corbyn is toxic to any tory protest votes and wet tories, so publicly aligning or entering into a pact with labour would do her no favours, so she has to keep a distance from JC for now. Lets say that after the election they are in position to be Kingmakers. What would she do, try and neuter the tories, run the risk of being tory human shields again or give labour a call saying its time to put national interests above party. Labours first choice of coalition partners would be the SNP and swinson knows this. The SNP are about the party that are guaranteed to do well in the election, its just a question of how well they would do." Labour/LibDem coalition following a defensetration of Corbyn. Labour remember having screwed up the last attempt at coalition and they have been out of government a long time now. It's also a remain party. The majority of MPs and members and voters. | |||
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"Fit to be a PM? all I've heard her say is bojo and jc aren't fit to be pm but she is!
Personally, I think is more interested in being the leader of a failed party. Still cannot forgive the Lib Dem’s for helping austerity, and ruining this country for the past decade. Plus they are a wasted vote party.
This snd what will69 said.
Plus i get bad vibes from her when seeing her talking, not what she says but how she says it.. Her mannerisms.. Cannt put my finger on why but sets alarm bells away for me.
Wow! I'm not the only one who's noticed it then.
But in comparison to Nigel and Boris, she's benign. Their open sophistry, bluster, bullying, and lies are in another league She is a wet Tory, She won't be PM but she will be a credible choice for disaffected tory voters. Her voting record is conservative, They could well pick up a few seats from the conservatives.she might lose her seat she did before. "So might Boger and Corbyn, particularly the former. That would be amusing, particularly if the Conservatives are at least the largest party | |||
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"Fit to be a PM? all I've heard her say is bojo and jc aren't fit to be pm but she is! "I'm not sure what disqualifies her. The LibDem policies are fairly benign. That said, this year the Tories are out to out-Labour Labour on un-costed public spending. There is a whole thread on why you would believe a liar... | |||
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"She is the leader of the Liberal Democrats. What sort of Democracy does she believe in when she will disregard the views and votes of 17.4 million who voted in a Democratic Referendum to leave the EU? " Advisory referendum | |||
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"She is the leader of the Liberal Democrats. What sort of Democracy does she believe in when she will disregard the views and votes of 17.4 million who voted in a Democratic Referendum to leave the EU? " Jo Swinson is standing on a pledge that if her political party is democratically elected into Government then they will revoke Article 50 and they would have the democratic go ahead from the electorate to do just so. Democracy challenges democracy | |||
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" Jo Swinson is standing on a pledge that if her political party is democratically elected into Government then they will revoke Article 50 and they would have the democratic go ahead from the electorate to do just so. Democracy challenges democracy "IF, and it's a big IF,she wins the Election, and she does hold a referendum, and the result is still to leave the EU, will she accept it, or keep on till the great unwashed (the people), vote to stay? | |||
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" Jo Swinson is standing on a pledge that if her political party is democratically elected into Government then they will revoke Article 50 and they would have the democratic go ahead from the electorate to do just so. Democracy challenges democracy
IF, and it's a big IF,she wins the Election, and she does hold a referendum, and the result is still to leave the EU, will she accept it, or keep on till the great unwashed (the people), vote to stay? "She will not need to hold a referendum. She would have a majority in Parliament voted in on a change in voting behaviour never seen before. | |||
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" Jo Swinson is standing on a pledge that if her political party is democratically elected into Government then they will revoke Article 50 and they would have the democratic go ahead from the electorate to do just so. Democracy challenges democracy
IF, and it's a big IF,she wins the Election, and she does hold a referendum, and the result is still to leave the EU, will she accept it, or keep on till the great unwashed (the people), vote to stay? "I honestly can't see either scenario happening A: Lib Dems getting a majority in Government B: Holding a 2nd referendum because it's only her party standing on a pledge to revoke Article 50, she wouldn't need another mandate over Brexit because if she was PM then she'd of already been given her mandate to revoke Article 50. | |||
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" Jo Swinson is standing on a pledge that if her political party is democratically elected into Government then they will revoke Article 50 and they would have the democratic go ahead from the electorate to do just so. Democracy challenges democracy
IF, and it's a big IF,she wins the Election, and she does hold a referendum, and the result is still to leave the EU, will she accept it, or keep on till the great unwashed (the people), vote to stay?
She will not need to hold a referendum. She would have a majority in Parliament voted in on a change in voting behaviour never seen before."Indeed, possible but highly highly unlikely. | |||
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" Jo Swinson is standing on a pledge that if her political party is democratically elected into Government then they will revoke Article 50 and they would have the democratic go ahead from the electorate to do just so. Democracy challenges democracy
IF, and it's a big IF,she wins the Election, and she does hold a referendum, and the result is still to leave the EU, will she accept it, or keep on till the great unwashed (the people), vote to stay?
She will not need to hold a referendum. She would have a majority in Parliament voted in on a change in voting behaviour never seen before.
Indeed, possible but highly highly unlikely. "You seem to be missing the point. A vote is only a truly democratic vote if it goes your way. If it goes your way then it can never be held again and no one is allowed to challenge it and it must be implemented. If it doesn't go your way then it clearly wasn't really democratic because it was too long ago, the people didn't understand the question, the campaign was unfair or something else was wrong. This applies equally to BREXITERS (who try to say in the first referendum in 75 that the people didn't understand what they were voting for) as it does to Remainers now. Personally I don't believe any vote is truly democratic if those putting forward the arguments on either side can't be held democratically accountable and in any referendum they can't be. | |||
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"Her voting record in parliament would suggest not. Her unwillingness to help Labour in Labour/Tory marginals is quite revealing too. Not that I'm a massive fan of Corbyn, I just think for remain to have a bigger say they have to first defeat the tories and Labour doing well is the only way this is possible. I agree. If she's serious about stopping brexit why is she so determined to divide parties and weaken their chances to do that" ahem... that help should go both ways then... and i didn't see labour jumping out of the way of seats to help the lib dems... remember breacon and radnor for example with the by election.... greens, plaid, steeped aside to let the lib dems have a better shot! labour didn't!!!! a lot of the seats in the south and south west especially are going to be conservative/lib dem fights..... i don't see corbyn telling his troops to stand aside either | |||
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"Her voting record in parliament would suggest not. Her unwillingness to help Labour in Labour/Tory marginals is quite revealing too. Not that I'm a massive fan of Corbyn, I just think for remain to have a bigger say they have to first defeat the tories and Labour doing well is the only way this is possible. I agree. If she's serious about stopping brexit why is she so determined to divide parties and weaken their chances to do that ahem... that help should go both ways then... and i didn't see labour jumping out of the way of seats to help the lib dems... remember breacon and radnor for example with the by election.... greens, plaid, steeped aside to let the lib dems have a better shot! labour didn't!!!! a lot of the seats in the south and south west especially are going to be conservative/lib dem fights..... i don't see corbyn telling his troops to stand aside either" Corbyn is anathema to all potential Conservative voters. Therefore he has to be unacceptable as an option to the LibDems to get those votes. As Corbyn is not even that popular within the Labour vote, there's nothing to lose. He will get dumped by his party if it means they will be in power. Corbyn may even walk away if he has some assurance of his policies being put into effect. | |||
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"I have always voted Tory but don't trust/like Boris and JC is far too left wing for me. So I will vote for Swinson...and a lot of my acquaintances are doing the same! I accept that she will not win but could well hold the Balance of Power especially if Farage's lot rip voters away from Cons and Lab. " and you trust her.... I'd sooner put her on a slow boat to China. A, two bit party with a two bit leader, Democrats they are not. I hope they are bombed out | |||
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"Her voting record in parliament would suggest not. Her unwillingness to help Labour in Labour/Tory marginals is quite revealing too. Not that I'm a massive fan of Corbyn, I just think for remain to have a bigger say they have to first defeat the tories and Labour doing well is the only way this is possible. " She is going after the moderate Conservative vote. She won't get that vote if they think "vote Swinson, get Corbyn". | |||
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"Her voting record in parliament would suggest not. Her unwillingness to help Labour in Labour/Tory marginals is quite revealing too. Not that I'm a massive fan of Corbyn, I just think for remain to have a bigger say they have to first defeat the tories and Labour doing well is the only way this is possible. She is going after the moderate Conservative vote. She won't get that vote if they think "vote Swinson, get Corbyn"." When you are being smeared, it is a sign that you're seen as a threat that has to be neutralised. Theres is a story being repeated and added to by the usual suspects, about her motivation for being in favour of revoking article 50 https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/blogs-trending-50160148 | |||
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"Her voting record in parliament would suggest not. Her unwillingness to help Labour in Labour/Tory marginals is quite revealing too. Not that I'm a massive fan of Corbyn, I just think for remain to have a bigger say they have to first defeat the tories and Labour doing well is the only way this is possible. She is going after the moderate Conservative vote. She won't get that vote if they think "vote Swinson, get Corbyn". When you are being smeared, it is a sign that you're seen as a threat that has to be neutralised. Theres is a story being repeated and added to by the usual suspects, about her motivation for being in favour of revoking article 50 https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/blogs-trending-50160148" She’s been in bed with tories before, so she’ll keep being in bed with them long after | |||
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"No. Brought up in the Labour heartlands with the advice that a vote for the Liberals is a wasted vote, and successive Liberal leaders have proved that bit of imparted wisdom to be true. Liberals are a middle class political movement with no time for the working class. " How has it proved to be true? Based on one coalition in the depths of a global recession. | |||
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"Her voting record in parliament would suggest not. Her unwillingness to help Labour in Labour/Tory marginals is quite revealing too. Not that I'm a massive fan of Corbyn, I just think for remain to have a bigger say they have to first defeat the tories and Labour doing well is the only way this is possible. She is going after the moderate Conservative vote. She won't get that vote if they think "vote Swinson, get Corbyn". When you are being smeared, it is a sign that you're seen as a threat that has to be neutralised. Theres is a story being repeated and added to by the usual suspects, about her motivation for being in favour of revoking article 50 https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/blogs-trending-50160148 She’s been in bed with tories before, so she’ll keep being in bed with them long after" Really? Based on what? | |||
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"And there you have it, if boris wasn’t leader of the tory party she would have a coalition with them Slimy lib dem, desperate for power." Yeah she’s a lemon ..They’re diving in the polls.Weak is all I see. | |||
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"The more I listen to Jo swinson, the more I am seeing she is tory lite, and quite aggressive also. Don’t like her." Yellow Tory .. | |||
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"The more I listen to Jo swinson, the more I am seeing she is tory lite, and quite aggressive also. Don’t like her." . What did you think a liberal was going to be?. Pol pot! Attila the Hun!. Stalin, a herd of majestic wildebeests sweeping Torquay bay | |||
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"The more I listen to Jo swinson, the more I am seeing she is tory lite, and quite aggressive also. Don’t like her. Yellow Tory .." Isn't that the same as pink Labour? You know, the party in the middle | |||
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"The more I listen to Jo swinson, the more I am seeing she is tory lite, and quite aggressive also. Don’t like her. Yellow Tory .. Isn't that the same as pink Labour? You know, the party in the middle "I had noticed the change of their typical red backdrop to a pinkish hue. | |||
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