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"An inquest at Gloucestershire Coroner’s Court on Friday heard that a French woman, who has lived in the UK for over 50 years, committed suicide because of anxiety about Brexit. Is this the first Brexit-related fatality? " No | |||
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"An inquest at Gloucestershire Coroner’s Court on Friday heard that a French woman, who has lived in the UK for over 50 years, committed suicide because of anxiety about Brexit. Is this the first Brexit-related fatality? " Jo Cox? | |||
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"Imposing Brexit at a point where medical supplies, including medicines, are increasingly unavailable, is ill thought through and potentially irresponsible as well as unforgivable, should any deaths or serious harm to people occurs. It's certain that someone like Gove is pretty unreliable to be left to manage readiness - I'd not trust him with anything, let alone my life. " Those who orchestrated brexit don't give a fuck. The ultra rich, the Americans and the Russians won't be effected. | |||
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"Yes. It is the Conservative Party's biggest fear. People dying because of their policies. Medicines are top of the pile in planning for Little Britain. " I was assured at the hospital last week that there would be very few problems and not to worry. Also my next door neighbour is a pharmacist at the hospital has said not to believe all you here. Just a load of rmoaner lies,Boris has it in hand | |||
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"Imposing Brexit at a point where medical supplies, including medicines, are increasingly unavailable, is ill thought through and potentially irresponsible as well as unforgivable, should any deaths or serious harm to people occurs. It's certain that someone like Gove is pretty unreliable to be left to manage readiness - I'd not trust him with anything, let alone my life. " The shock of things being ok will give you a heart attack | |||
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"Yes. It is the Conservative Party's biggest fear. People dying because of their policies. Medicines are top of the pile in planning for Little Britain. I was assured at the hospital last week that there would be very few problems and not to worry. Also my next door neighbour is a pharmacist at the hospital has said not to believe all you here. Just a load of rmoaner lies,Boris has it in hand" Is this one of the brexit benefits? That your neighbor thinks it won't be as bad as some people think. | |||
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"Just for balance....there are problems getting hold of some drugs at the moment because of a large outbreak of swine fever in China which supplies most of the pigs intestines that these blood thinning drugs are made from. This will affect the cost and supply in the short term but the more worrying aspects of brexit are the time dependent drugs and radioactive products that currently are available readily via road and rail freight which will have to be sent by air at increased cost which will be passed on to the nhs. The labour parties concept of a state run generic medicine manufacturer is not a terrible idea given that many generic medicines are manufactured in india whose economy is booming making their drugs more expensive. Its an emotive subject but I think we all know that Brexit will make medicines more expensive and cause scarcity in the short term with access to the best drugs becoming dependent on how much insurance cover you have to top up your rationed NHS allowance. " Labours concept is a terrible idea drug companies spend years developing drugs and very few of them work hence the high price for the ones that do as they have to subsidize the millions spent one the ones that dont.Their idea would hinder future research into new drugs. | |||
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" Also my next door neighbour is a pharmacist at the hospital has said not to believe all you here. Just a load of rmoaner lies,Boris has it in hand" The risk to medicine supplies certainly is not a lie. The question is whether the risk of being mitigated. I'm pleased you have confidence in Johnson's ability to do so. | |||
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"Yes. It is the Conservative Party's biggest fear. People dying because of their policies. Medicines are top of the pile in planning for Little Britain. I was assured at the hospital last week that there would be very few problems and not to worry. Also my next door neighbour is a pharmacist at the hospital has said not to believe all you here. Just a load of rmoaner lies,Boris has it in hand Is this one of the brexit benefits? That your neighbor thinks it won't be as bad as some people think." no not a benefit,just a fact | |||
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"Just for balance....there are problems getting hold of some drugs at the moment because of a large outbreak of swine fever in China which supplies most of the pigs intestines that these blood thinning drugs are made from. This will affect the cost and supply in the short term but the more worrying aspects of brexit are the time dependent drugs and radioactive products that currently are available readily via road and rail freight which will have to be sent by air at increased cost which will be passed on to the nhs. The labour parties concept of a state run generic medicine manufacturer is not a terrible idea given that many generic medicines are manufactured in india whose economy is booming making their drugs more expensive. Its an emotive subject but I think we all know that Brexit will make medicines more expensive and cause scarcity in the short term with access to the best drugs becoming dependent on how much insurance cover you have to top up your rationed NHS allowance. Labours concept is a terrible idea drug companies spend years developing drugs and very few of them work hence the high price for the ones that do as they have to subsidize the millions spent one the ones that dont.Their idea would hinder future research into new drugs. " So making generic drugs either by paying for a license to manufacture or making drugs that are out of patent (as India does) to provide a cheap source for the nhs makes no sense? We are not talking about new drugs which will be paid for and used by the nhs as they do at present and will continue to do so until the point at which they become generic. The drug companies will continue to make money as before but the nhs will supply itself probably pretty much at cost. Makes sense to me | |||
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"The first casualty of Brexit was the truth!" So right there Bob | |||
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"The recent conservative leadership voting unfortunately added a 3 week or so delay to the efforts to help ensure the UK is better prepared for medical needs, in the context of international shortages, compounded by a potential complexity and delays due to Brexit, if it happens. " The civil service do not all go on holiday because there is a leadership contest total rubbish. | |||
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"So when Brexit happens people will die because of lack of drugs. Deal with it people outside the EU are dying every day because they can't get drugs moved quick enough. My god wake up fake news " So you think it's a good thing that brexit will fuck up our health system, and people will die. We've gone from "brexit will give us 350 million a week for the health service" to "brexit is great because people with medical needs are going to die". I'm guessing you're not a diabetic rationing their insulin in case there is a temporary supply shortage that would kill them. I'm guessing you're not a cancer patient worrying that their radiation treatment might not be possible, or their chemotherapy drug not available. You're bloody typical of brexiteers - "it's a price worth paying" - as long as it's not you paying the price. It takes a lot to get me angry, but now i am fucking fuming! | |||
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"So when Brexit happens people will die because of lack of drugs. Deal with it people outside the EU are dying every day because they can't get drugs moved quick enough. My god wake up fake news " If you don't give a fuck about people dying because they have reduced access to essential medicines. What do you care about? | |||
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"The top 3 countries that supply pharmaceuticals are. USA. Japan. China. Others countries include. Australia. Canada. India." Source? | |||
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"The following is a list of countries by pharmaceutical exports. Data is for 2014, in billions of US Dollars, as reported by The Observatory of Economic Complexity. Currently the top ten countries are listed, which account for more than 75% of the total market value, estimated at $354 billion. # Country Value World Market Share — European Union 178. 51,2% 1 Germany 50 16% 2 United States 38.1 11% 3 Switzerland 34.1 9.6% 4 Italy 27.5 7.8% 5 Ireland 22.8 6.4% 6 Belgium + Luxembourg 20.9 5.9% 7 United Kingdom 19.6. 5.6% 8 Netherlands 14.3 4% 9 India 12.1 3.4% Total — 262.3 75.3" Thanks for taking the time googling and putting facts out there .. | |||
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"The same people scare mongering about lack of Medication leading to Brexit related deaths are the those telling us that the world is over populated, and leave only won because all the pesky old people voted for it, I'd have thought they'd have been over the moon... " | |||
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"The same people scare mongering about lack of Medication leading to Brexit related deaths are the those telling us that the world is over populated, and leave only won because all the pesky old people voted for it, I'd have thought they'd have been over the moon... " Ha, true Personally I don't think pharmaceuticals will be delayed, "if" crossings are in turmoil "which I don't think they will" then I think flights will be used for emergency stuff. | |||
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"The following is a list of countries by pharmaceutical exports. Data is for 2014, in billions of US Dollars, as reported by The Observatory of Economic Complexity. Currently the top ten countries are listed, which account for more than 75% of the total market value, estimated at $354 billion. # Country Value World Market Share — European Union 178. 51,2% 1 Germany 50 16% 2 United States 38.1 11% 3 Switzerland 34.1 9.6% 4 Italy 27.5 7.8% 5 Ireland 22.8 6.4% 6 Belgium + Luxembourg 20.9 5.9% 7 United Kingdom 19.6. 5.6% 8 Netherlands 14.3 4% 9 India 12.1 3.4% Total — 262.3 75.3" Thanks. That makes interesting reading. Especially the size of the EU share overall compared to the UK alone. I guess we could get into a debate about where the research is carried out and where else companies choose to be based for tax efficiency but thats the trouble with facts - they just make life too complicated | |||
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"The following is a list of countries by pharmaceutical exports. Data is for 2014, in billions of US Dollars, as reported by The Observatory of Economic Complexity. Currently the top ten countries are listed, which account for more than 75% of the total market value, estimated at $354 billion. # Country Value World Market Share — European Union 178. 51,2% 1 Germany 50 16% 2 United States 38.1 11% 3 Switzerland 34.1 9.6% 4 Italy 27.5 7.8% 5 Ireland 22.8 6.4% 6 Belgium + Luxembourg 20.9 5.9% 7 United Kingdom 19.6. 5.6% 8 Netherlands 14.3 4% 9 India 12.1 3.4% Total — 262.3 75.3 Thanks for taking the time googling and putting facts out there .. " | |||
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"Yes and there will be more shortages with brexit. I heard the doctors are already starting to get extra orders in." Yes that is right. | |||
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"The following is a list of countries by pharmaceutical exports. Data is for 2014, in billions of US Dollars, as reported by The Observatory of Economic Complexity. Currently the top ten countries are listed, which account for more than 75% of the total market value, estimated at $354 billion. # Country Value World Market Share — European Union 178. 51,2% 1 Germany 50 16% 2 United States 38.1 11% 3 Switzerland 34.1 9.6% 4 Italy 27.5 7.8% 5 Ireland 22.8 6.4% 6 Belgium + Luxembourg 20.9 5.9% 7 United Kingdom 19.6. 5.6% 8 Netherlands 14.3 4% 9 India 12.1 3.4% Total — 262.3 75.3 Thanks. That makes interesting reading. Especially the size of the EU share overall compared to the UK alone. I guess we could get into a debate about where the research is carried out and where else companies choose to be based for tax efficiency but thats the trouble with facts - they just make life too complicated " I imagine the European companies are less than thrilled that the EU claims the number 1 slot. To complicate the situation the various companies specialise in different areas of research and product’s. The government did actually commission an independent survey into what will happen re drugs in the event of Brexit. Also because another problem regarding isotope medicines is that 5 of the 6 research reactors that produce them are going out of service in the next 10 years as they are at the end of their working lives. Facts do rather complicate things | |||
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"Yes. It is the Conservative Party's biggest fear. People dying because of their policies. Medicines are top of the pile in planning for Little Britain. I was assured at the hospital last week that there would be very few problems and not to worry. Also my next door neighbour is a pharmacist at the hospital has said not to believe all you here. Just a load of rmoaner lies,Boris has it in hand" Strange? been in about 8 hospitals recently, and been hearing the same thing from staff. So must be a regional thing maybe? | |||
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"Yes. It is the Conservative Party's biggest fear. People dying because of their policies. Medicines are top of the pile in planning for Little Britain. I was assured at the hospital last week that there would be very few problems and not to worry. Also my next door neighbour is a pharmacist at the hospital has said not to believe all you here. Just a load of rmoaner lies,Boris has it in hand Strange? been in about 8 hospitals recently, and been hearing the same thing from staff. So must be a regional thing maybe? " How do they know what the shortages will be when we haven't left yet? | |||
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"Yes. It is the Conservative Party's biggest fear. People dying because of their policies. Medicines are top of the pile in planning for Little Britain. I was assured at the hospital last week that there would be very few problems and not to worry. Also my next door neighbour is a pharmacist at the hospital has said not to believe all you here. Just a load of rmoaner lies,Boris has it in hand Strange? been in about 8 hospitals recently, and been hearing the same thing from staff. So must be a regional thing maybe? How do they know what the shortages will be when we haven't left yet?" The future isn't a total unknown. You can figure out, for example, that when you go food shopping, that you'll need food for more than just right now. Because you can think about what you need for the rest of the week, where to get it from, and if you can afford it. | |||
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"Yes. It is the Conservative Party's biggest fear. People dying because of their policies. Medicines are top of the pile in planning for Little Britain. I was assured at the hospital last week that there would be very few problems and not to worry. Also my next door neighbour is a pharmacist at the hospital has said not to believe all you here. Just a load of rmoaner lies,Boris has it in hand" There are already shortages of drugs ffs. Epipens, HRT therapies and drugs for epilepsy are three that are hard to source today. Are you suggesting a) that this is made up and that b) a No Deal Brexit will improve things? Is there no level of stupidity that some brextremists wont stoop to in their halfarsed cries of project Fear? | |||
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"Yes. It is the Conservative Party's biggest fear. People dying because of their policies. Medicines are top of the pile in planning for Little Britain. I was assured at the hospital last week that there would be very few problems and not to worry. Also my next door neighbour is a pharmacist at the hospital has said not to believe all you here. Just a load of rmoaner lies,Boris has it in hand There are already shortages of drugs ffs. Epipens, HRT therapies and drugs for epilepsy are three that are hard to source today. Are you suggesting a) that this is made up and that b) a No Deal Brexit will improve things? Is there no level of stupidity that some brextremists wont stoop to in their halfarsed cries of project Fear? " . There probably in short supply because there stock piling them. You know like buying more than normal | |||
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"Yes. It is the Conservative Party's biggest fear. People dying because of their policies. Medicines are top of the pile in planning for Little Britain. I was assured at the hospital last week that there would be very few problems and not to worry. Also my next door neighbour is a pharmacist at the hospital has said not to believe all you here. Just a load of rmoaner lies,Boris has it in hand There are already shortages of drugs ffs. Epipens, HRT therapies and drugs for epilepsy are three that are hard to source today. Are you suggesting a) that this is made up and that b) a No Deal Brexit will improve things? Is there no level of stupidity that some brextremists wont stoop to in their halfarsed cries of project Fear? . There probably in short supply because there stock piling them. You know like buying more than normal" Instead of trying to be a smartarse (and failing), why not read up about the issues with pharmaceutical supplies and then you's perhaps understand what's going on rather than being tiresome and trite | |||
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"Yes. It is the Conservative Party's biggest fear. People dying because of their policies. Medicines are top of the pile in planning for Little Britain. I was assured at the hospital last week that there would be very few problems and not to worry. Also my next door neighbour is a pharmacist at the hospital has said not to believe all you here. Just a load of rmoaner lies,Boris has it in hand There are already shortages of drugs ffs. Epipens, HRT therapies and drugs for epilepsy are three that are hard to source today. Are you suggesting a) that this is made up and that b) a No Deal Brexit will improve things? Is there no level of stupidity that some brextremists wont stoop to in their halfarsed cries of project Fear? . There probably in short supply because there stock piling them. You know like buying more than normal Instead of trying to be a smartarse (and failing), why not read up about the issues with pharmaceutical supplies and then you's perhaps understand what's going on rather than being tiresome and trite" . Oooo playing the man instead of the ball. Back of the net | |||
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"My god some people will beleve anything, I'm scared for all of us if people run around shouting because the EU properger machine tells us it's the truth. Drugs will only be stopped for coming into the UK if our customs stops them. End of wake up. " Oh dear. The EU has said nothing about medicine supplies. British Ministers have. Brexiteers btw. The civil service has. The problem is the predicted logjam at ports. Brexiteers predicted a 40-60 % reduction in throughput because of non-compliance with border and customs rules. This is what you voted for - an overnight return to barriers and red tape that we spent the last 50 years removing. | |||
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"My god some people will beleve anything, I'm scared for all of us if people run around shouting because the EU properger machine tells us it's the truth. Drugs will only be stopped for coming into the UK if our customs stops them. End of wake up. " It's difficult to fully comprehend what you may be trying to say. It's clear though, based on the available evidence, that major shortages, globally and more locally, of significant medical supplies, that Brexit disruptions will make problems worse. It's not just about medicine, it's also about broader supplies, that essentially underpin health service treatments. If someone isn't personally affected, that's good fortune but those who need continuous medication, or who are dependent on cancer treatment to provide them with a chance of a life that is neither cut short or doomed to having a much lower quality or meaning for them, avoidable problems caused by some self-serving bottom feeding scum, should be halted. There's no room for political ideology or politicians who operate only for themselves or a very privileged few, to be sustained in public service. Such filth would be dealt with the contempt and full public disgust from right minded decent people anywhere. | |||
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"My god some people will beleve anything, I'm scared for all of us if people run around shouting because the EU properger machine tells us it's the truth. Drugs will only be stopped for coming into the UK if our customs stops them. End of wake up. It's difficult to fully comprehend what you may be trying to say. It's clear though, based on the available evidence, that major shortages, globally and more locally, of significant medical supplies, that Brexit disruptions will make problems worse. It's not just about medicine, it's also about broader supplies, that essentially underpin health service treatments. If someone isn't personally affected, that's good fortune but those who need continuous medication, or who are dependent on cancer treatment to provide them with a chance of a life that is neither cut short or doomed to having a much lower quality or meaning for them, avoidable problems caused by some self-serving bottom feeding scum, should be halted. There's no room for political ideology or politicians who operate only for themselves or a very privileged few, to be sustained in public service. Such filth would be dealt with the contempt and full public disgust from right minded decent people anywhere. " Good to see remainers have kerbed their rhetoric "bottom feeding scum",shit for brains, filth nice language to debate a discussion your mother must be proud of you.There was i believing that it was leavers that were using inflammatory language or so ive been told. | |||
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