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"Is a bloody idiot" How is he? I often wonder why so many Brexit supporters get so personally inflamed when someone points out the facts, logic and truth that undermines their fantasy world. Unlike Johnson, Varadkar lives on the island of Ireland and has grown up living and experiencing both the follies and the successes of UK Government policies over the last forty years or so. I would take more credence from his balanced and articulate prognosis than I would from what Johnson simply wants. Sometimes, the truth is a painful inconvenience. | |||
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"He is doing a great leader .... particulary compared to the joke boris!" What great leader is he doing?  and how the fuck does he know what the British people want? | |||
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"Ther are plenty who claim 17.4 is a majority of 66.4 " you do realise under 18s aint allpwed to vote? and the vote was only for british ppl. and people like me who didnt vote aint counted either.i was ok with whatever way the vote went.if it had been remain fair enough as it was leave fair enough aswell | |||
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"He doesent Speak for the british ..... He speaks for the irish ! And has put the english in their place !" The post is about his comment today that the British people want to stay in the eu nothing more. | |||
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"Is a bloody idiot" Why do you say that? He has 26 other countries behind him, so he must be doing something right. | |||
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"He doesent Speak for the british ..... He speaks for the irish ! And has put the english in their place !The post is about his comment today that the British people want to stay in the eu nothing more." well northern ireland DID vote to remain rather than leave...... maybe they consider the peace process and the GFA a price worth maintaining being part of the EU maybe they considered the border situation a bit more than some did on the mainland... whereas Bojo's plan basically throws Northern Ireland under the bus (hey why only have one border to worry about when you can have two!) and gives power of veto to the DUP..... | |||
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"He doesent Speak for the british ..... He speaks for the irish ! And has put the english in their place !The post is about his comment today that the British people want to stay in the eu nothing more." Brexiteers are such snowflakes. He was observing that recent polls all show a lead for Remain. Obviously polls can be taken with a pinch of salt, but there's nothing wrong with pointing out that Britain is not wholly comprised of Brexiteers, despite what they'd have you believe. And for such an uncontroversial comment Brexiteers lose their shit. Sad. | |||
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"Is a bloody idiot Why do you say that? He has 26 other countries behind him, so he must be doing something right. " He has 32 counties behind him as The 6 Counties voted to remain | |||
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"Ther are plenty who claim 17.4 is a majority of 66.4 you do realise under 18s aint allpwed to vote? and the vote was only for british ppl. and people like me who didnt vote aint counted either.i was ok with whatever way the vote went.if it had been remain fair enough as it was leave fair enough aswell" So we take off 18 million unregistered voters. So where does 17.4 million become the majority of 48 million ? 16.2 said remain. If we take 500,000 tied up in Hospital 100,000 who were away & didnt bother to register by proxy another 100,000 on the lowest income who.really couldnt afford to spend the £2 bus fair on a vote just in case they needed that £2 for the last bit of grub. 25,000 homeless , brings it to about so call it a round million . Brings the total to 35 million if were generous With an almost 50/50 split. That leaves 13 million with no vote Which if you break it down leads to Unregistred voters u18s & prisoners foreign nationals Visiting working or schooling here So 28.0 % couldnt vote 18.6 mill 25.6 % vote leave 17.4 mill 24.4 % vote remain 16.2 mill 22% didnt bother . 13.0 mill approx 100 .0 % Total Vote How does that make as you suggest the Majority of the uk Voted to leave ? I think it shows clearly only that what Leo said The Majority of the people of the uk, didnt vote to leave the EU Therefore It can be clearly said the Uk public does not want to leave the UK. No wonder leavers or cant be bothereds Fall for this claptrap they get fed. | |||
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"Sorry the UK public do not want to leave The EU" I agree. Most intelligent leave voters now realise they were lied to and now want to remain  | |||
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" He’s loving the fact he has 26 countries behind him, and at the same time shitting himself they’ll throw him under the bus. " In Europe, it's something of a test case. One of the smaller members is vulnerable to external forces outwith its control. Will the larger members, e.g. Germany and France, put the interests of the smaller member before their own? The answer so far is a resounding Yes. That gives confidence to other smaller states about the value of the EU. | |||
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"Ther are plenty who claim 17.4 is a majority of 66.4 you do realise under 18s aint allpwed to vote? and the vote was only for british ppl. and people like me who didnt vote aint counted either.i was ok with whatever way the vote went.if it had been remain fair enough as it was leave fair enough aswell So we take off 18 million unregistered voters. So where does 17.4 million become the majority of 48 million ? 16.2 said remain. If we take 500,000 tied up in Hospital 100,000 who were away & didnt bother to register by proxy another 100,000 on the lowest income who.really couldnt afford to spend the £2 bus fair on a vote just in case they needed that £2 for the last bit of grub. 25,000 homeless , brings it to about so call it a round million . Brings the total to 35 million if were generous With an almost 50/50 split. That leaves 13 million with no vote Which if you break it down leads to Unregistred voters u18s & prisoners foreign nationals Visiting working or schooling here So 28.0 % couldnt vote 18.6 mill 25.6 % vote leave 17.4 mill 24.4 % vote remain 16.2 mill 22% didnt bother . 13.0 mill approx 100 .0 % Total Vote How does that make as you suggest the Majority of the uk Voted to leave ? I think it shows clearly only that what Leo said The Majority of the people of the uk, didnt vote to leave the EU Therefore It can be clearly said the Uk public does not want to leave the UK. No wonder leavers or cant be bothereds Fall for this claptrap they get fed. " and neither did a majority vote to remain it works both ways.dress it up how you want the ones eligble to vote voted and it was leave.like i said i didnt vote but u cant take that as my vote would of been remain.i was ok watever way it went.i dont vote as its a waste of time if u think your vote is something special that your belief.at the end of the day they not gona leave.but then that opens another can. of worms .i honestley think you are gona get a lot of votes going to the far left and far right at nxt GE. labour and the torys are gona lose a lot of votes.and when i say far right im not tlkin about farrage.he just a distraction there are a lot worse people from both sides than him out there | |||
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"yep seems he doesnt think 52% is bigger than 48% "Why should Varadkar care what the percentage vote was? He and the EU do not have to do anything to benefit us. He has to do what he thinks is in the best interests of his country. The EU have backed Ireland and will continue to do so because they will squabble internally but protect the group. We are leaving the group but seem to have it in our heads that they should still treat us better than one of their own. Flawed logic. | |||
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"and what makes you think im a leaver??? i think leavers and remainers are both as mental as each other.so ehat makes you think the majority want to remain i dont care either way will have no effect to my life u cant have any less than fuck. so no change for me" You have bravely taken no position and chosen to criticise everyone then? Top job  | |||
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"Ther are plenty who claim 17.4 is a majority of 66.4 you do realise under 18s aint allpwed to vote? and the vote was only for british ppl. and people like me who didnt vote aint counted either.i was ok with whatever way the vote went.if it had been remain fair enough as it was leave fair enough aswell So we take off 18 million unregistered voters. So where does 17.4 million become the majority of 48 million ? 16.2 said remain. If we take 500,000 tied up in Hospital 100,000 who were away & didnt bother to register by proxy another 100,000 on the lowest income who.really couldnt afford to spend the £2 bus fair on a vote just in case they needed that £2 for the last bit of grub. 25,000 homeless , brings it to about so call it a round million . Brings the total to 35 million if were generous With an almost 50/50 split. That leaves 13 million with no vote Which if you break it down leads to Unregistred voters u18s & prisoners foreign nationals Visiting working or schooling here So 28.0 % couldnt vote 18.6 mill 25.6 % vote leave 17.4 mill 24.4 % vote remain 16.2 mill 22% didnt bother . 13.0 mill approx 100 .0 % Total Vote How does that make as you suggest the Majority of the uk Voted to leave ? I think it shows clearly only that what Leo said The Majority of the people of the uk, didnt vote to leave the EU Therefore It can be clearly said the Uk public does not want to leave the UK. No wonder leavers or cant be bothereds Fall for this claptrap they get fed. " Seems like a slightly pointless statistical argument though. There was a vote and the majority who voted, voted to leave. That is true. The majority did not give a crap or did not have the right to express their opinion, but under the rules that exist. What is debatable is the quality of information provided. What is debatable is the relevance of Arabic immigrants or the proximity of Turkey to Syria. What is debatable is any benefit whatsoever of leaving. What is interesting is the demographic balance of leave and remain. What is interesting is that democracies function by compromise and finding ways to accommodate and tolerate minorities. However, when the minority is 48% of those who voted completely ignoring their position is not a path to success. | |||
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"Ther are plenty who claim 17.4 is a majority of 66.4 you do realise under 18s aint allpwed to vote? and the vote was only for british ppl. and people like me who didnt vote aint counted either.i was ok with whatever way the vote went.if it had been remain fair enough as it was leave fair enough aswell So we take off 18 million unregistered voters. So where does 17.4 million become the majority of 48 million ? 16.2 said remain. If we take 500,000 tied up in Hospital 100,000 who were away & didnt bother to register by proxy another 100,000 on the lowest income who.really couldnt afford to spend the £2 bus fair on a vote just in case they needed that £2 for the last bit of grub. 25,000 homeless , brings it to about so call it a round million . Brings the total to 35 million if were generous With an almost 50/50 split. That leaves 13 million with no vote Which if you break it down leads to Unregistred voters u18s & prisoners foreign nationals Visiting working or schooling here So 28.0 % couldnt vote 18.6 mill 25.6 % vote leave 17.4 mill 24.4 % vote remain 16.2 mill 22% didnt bother . 13.0 mill approx 100 .0 % Total Vote How does that make as you suggest the Majority of the uk Voted to leave ? I think it shows clearly only that what Leo said The Majority of the people of the uk, didnt vote to leave the EU Therefore It can be clearly said the Uk public does not want to leave the UK. No wonder leavers or cant be bothereds Fall for this claptrap they get fed. and neither did a majority vote to remain it works both ways.dress it up how you want the ones eligble to vote voted and it was leave.like i said i didnt vote but u cant take that as my vote would of been remain.i was ok watever way it went.i dont vote as its a waste of time if u think your vote is something special that your belief.at the end of the day they not gona leave.but then that opens another can. of worms .i honestley think you are gona get a lot of votes going to the far left and far right at nxt GE. labour and the torys are gona lose a lot of votes.and when i say far right im not tlkin about farrage.he just a distraction there are a lot worse people from both sides than him out there" When have l Remainers ever said the Majority of the Contry Voted to leave. Leavers quote that as fact everyday. | |||
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"He is only trying to protect the his country against being railroaded into a fiasco for Southern Ireland " | |||
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"# Ireland doesn't owe the UK anything " I'm guessing you saw the bonnie greer answer on question time then.... boy did she tell them a few home truths..... | |||
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"Actually I’m a remainer. None of the proposals offer the advantages of remain . But if we must leave, then a deal would be preferable . For the ROI, no deal will screw the Irish far more than the brits. Boris has suggested NI stay in the single market which is the best thing for ROI/NI trade . There is no way Johnson could have proposed staying in the EU customs union as his own party would have slit his throat so his proposal to come out of the customs union was his only option, esprciallly as the DUP would not have countenanced it. There already is a border. Taxes are collected separately in NI and ROI. VAT is different in both countries and collected separately. Corporation tax is collected separately and there are different currencies. All of this has been happening for many years WITH a border. There is no reason why customs duties and tariffs cannot be collected in the same way that all the other differing taxes, rates, currency fluctuations are handled. All varadkar wants is the backstop which gives the EU the right to forever refuse the UK can completely leave. If we do leave without a deal, the ROI economy will be screwed forever as the vast majority of Irish trade is with the UK. " This is actually untrue. The vast majority of Irish trade is not with the UK. Yes the Irish economy will suffer but not nearly as much as the UK economy will suffer after leaving the EU. | |||
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