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"Scientists are studying this but it may take several years "Yes it could take many years lol | |||
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"It is all about not to get the worst deal, why dont brexiters understand that? "No it isn't . It is about freedom and self determination. Things remoaners never mention. You can't get a deal with this Reich because they don't want one. It destroys the idea of the eu. Why join if you can get a good trade deal? The point is to deter other countries from leaving. | |||
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"It is all about not to get the worst deal, why dont brexiters understand that? "That’s right . Its about crashing the economy and blaming the EU for the situation .Theres lots of money to be made from this situation.  | |||
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"It is all about not to get the worst deal, why dont brexiters understand that?
No it isn't . It is about freedom and self determination. Things remoaners never mention.
You can't get a deal with this Reich because they don't want one. It destroys the idea of the eu.
Why join if you can get a good trade deal? The point is to deter other countries from leaving."What freedom are you talking about? I think you have no idea what this word really means and what freedom means. | |||
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"It is all about not to get the worst deal, why dont brexiters understand that?
No it isn't . It is about freedom and self determination. Things remoaners never mention.
You can't get a deal with this Reich because they don't want one. It destroys the idea of the eu.
Why join if you can get a good trade deal? The point is to deter other countries from leaving."If it is trade that you want, why on earth walk out of the single market? | |||
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"I don't want to trade with the eu above freedom. Any country can trade using wto rules. They may not be perfect but the over 160 countries outside the eu are free and most trade with the eu. Why do you all think the eu is so wonderful? The only part of the eu with a good economy is us. The med is bankrupt,France isn't doing well Germany is wetting itself and countries like Hungary and Poland realise what they've joined isn't that different from what they left. The eu bullies countries like Italy for setting its own budget (nothing to do with the eu) and it's trying to bully Poland and Hungary because they don't like their laws. Their laws are their business not the eu. What is so great about this vile little club based on threatening countries for non compliance of their laws? " Does anyone here think that the Union is a wonderful ? Why do you think the UK economy in EU is the strongest? It is Germany. No state has been declared bankrupt. The EU has a democratically elected parliament and everyone has the right to object. You know nothing about Poland and why there are disputes between Poland and the EU. Polish courts are under the shoes of the government, they depend on it and should be independent. It is also about ecology because in Poland coal is the main source of energy. I will not just develop the topic because you are uninformed. You know very little about the EU and all you know about it is from the lips of the disheveled blonde who once said that the EU wants bananas grow straight and the second clown Farage who moved his businesses to the EU so that he would have no problems after Brexit. | |||
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"Democracy, human rights, separation of state and judiciary. Not exactly fundamental requirements of the Warsaw Pact. Quite the opposite. But fundamental requirements of being in the EU. Clinging to the ideals of the Warsaw Pact and being in the EU are incompatible. Those countries need to decide which side their bread is buttered on. No-one is forcing them to be members of the EU. " | |||
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"I don't want to trade with the eu above freedom. Any country can trade using wto rules. They may not be perfect but the over 160 countries outside the eu are free and most trade with the eu. Why do you all think the eu is so wonderful? The only part of the eu with a good economy is us. The med is bankrupt,France isn't doing well Germany is wetting itself and countries like Hungary and Poland realise what they've joined isn't that different from what they left. The eu bullies countries like Italy for setting its own budget (nothing to do with the eu) and it's trying to bully Poland and Hungary because they don't like their laws. Their laws are their business not the eu. What is so great about this vile little club based on threatening countries for non compliance of their laws? " Genuinely special! Perhaps you would like an island all of your own so you can take back control? | |||
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"Does the eu let any country run its own affairs? No. " Lololol After living through the complete shambles your chums are making of "taking back control" I sometimes wish the above was true. Total bollocks. | |||
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"How will your football teams cope when European citizens no longer have the right to work here? " What? They can work. It's called a visa. Other citizens us em why can't eu citizens? | |||
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Good luck filling all the holes in your football teams btw.
I'm sure there are plenty of British nationals desperate for a game.
Probably a queue of them down the Job Centre right now.
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"You sound like a Scottish nationalist.
Good luck filling all the holes in your football teams btw.
I'm sure there are plenty of British nationals desperate for a game.
Probably a queue of them down the Job Centre right now.
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"Does the eu let any country run its own affairs? No. Can they make trade deals with countries outside? No. Are they ordered to take migrant quotas. Yes. If they don't are they threatened with witholding of money to keep them afloat? Yes. The eastern block joined because they had failed and wanted to get their snouts in the trough but now realise they have no freedom in return. Saying it's a democratic requirement means zip. The eu is itself profoundly undemocratic. " For once a leaver "I presume" has actually posted points that I can't disagree with apart from the first to a certain degree. It makes a nice change not to read Brexit lies in a pro leave post. | |||
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"Does the eu let any country run its own affairs? No. Can they make trade deals with countries outside? No. Are they ordered to take migrant quotas. Yes. If they don't are they threatened with witholding of money to keep them afloat? Yes. The eastern block joined because they had failed and wanted to get their snouts in the trough but now realise they have no freedom in return. Saying it's a democratic requirement means zip. The eu is itself profoundly undemocratic. For once a leaver "I presume" has actually posted points that I can't disagree with apart from the first to a certain degree. It makes a nice change not to read Brexit lies in a pro leave post. "Why thank you sir. | |||
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"It is all about not to get the worst deal, why dont brexiters understand that? "I do ! That’s why I’d rather leave on world trade terms ! | |||
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" The eastern block joined because they had failed and wanted to get their snouts in the trough but now realise they have no freedom in return. Saying it's a democratic requirement means zip. The eu is itself profoundly undemocratic. " What a bollocks. What Eastern Bloc are you talking about when Poland, Lithuania and other countries joined the EU? Your misinformation is simply pathetic. It is not worth paying attention to your statements that are simply pointless. | |||
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" The eastern block joined because they had failed and wanted to get their snouts in the trough but now realise they have no freedom in return. Saying it's a democratic requirement means zip. The eu is itself profoundly undemocratic. What a bollocks. What Eastern Bloc are you talking about when Poland, Lithuania and other countries joined the EU? Your misinformation is simply pathetic. It is not worth paying attention to your statements that are simply pointless." I think you mean what bollocks. Ni article here. Well what I was talking about was the countries from Estonia to Bulgaria...the eastern block. They joined for money nothing else. Well maybe also because they thought they'd get protection from the eu,in reality NATO. What part is bollocks? Do tell. | |||
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"I'm just an ordinary man. Not a brexiteer not a remoaner. As a black ordinary man I am more than aware of the dangers of labels. They just separate and differentiate. To me it's either you believe in Brexit or you don't. Don't need labels to establish this fact. My position was this is not going to be a quick fix. Ive been proven right on that one. The truth is more than simple. Were British. And I for one am very proud of that. Whether we leave, stay or dither. This fact will not change. Supporter of Brexit or opposer of Brexit were still British and we will remain British. We the ordinary people, who graft and earn our coin. Should not turn on each other but be ready and prepared to look out for each other. In or out, we as a country are going to be in for a bumpy ride. Neither side can say with any certainty that they are right and the other side is wrong. Even the countries best acedemics and experts cannot agree. All we can say with absolute certainty is, it divides. Only if we let it. Refreshing to read a common sense based post for a change instead of the usual shite posted about brexit. " | |||
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"It is all about not to get the worst deal, why dont brexiters understand that?
That’s right .
Its about crashing the economy and blaming the EU for the situation .Theres lots of money to be made from this situation. "That is right it is about that | |||
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"I'm just an ordinary man. Not a brexiteer not a remoaner. As a black ordinary man I am more than aware of the dangers of labels. They just separate and differentiate. To me it's either you believe in Brexit or you don't. Don't need labels to establish this fact. My position was this is not going to be a quick fix. Ive been proven right on that one. The truth is more than simple. Were British. And I for one am very proud of that. Whether we leave, stay or dither. This fact will not change. Supporter of Brexit or opposer of Brexit were still British and we will remain British. We the ordinary people, who graft and earn our coin. Should not turn on each other but be ready and prepared to look out for each other. In or out, we as a country are going to be in for a bumpy ride. Neither side can say with any certainty that they are right and the other side is wrong. Even the countries best acedemics and experts cannot agree. All we can say with absolute certainty is, it divides. Only if we let it. " Well said. I voted remain but respect the decision to leave as we were all made a number of promises that leaving the EU would be easy and we would get a good deal . This hasn’t happened. If we are going to be worse off when we leave then if we stay why would we still want to leave ?? | |||
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" The eastern block joined because they had failed and wanted to get their snouts in the trough but now realise they have no freedom in return. Saying it's a democratic requirement means zip. The eu is itself profoundly undemocratic. What a bollocks. What Eastern Bloc are you talking about when Poland, Lithuania and other countries joined the EU? Your misinformation is simply pathetic. It is not worth paying attention to your statements that are simply pointless. I think you mean what bollocks. Ni article here. Well what I was talking about was the countries from Estonia to Bulgaria...the eastern block. They joined for money nothing else. Well maybe also because they thought they'd get protection from the eu,in reality NATO. What part is bollocks? Do tell." Everything you wrote. Read about the UK economy before joining the EU (EEC). UK did not join for money? Answer yourself before you write another stupidity. | |||
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" The eastern block joined because they had failed and wanted to get their snouts in the trough but now realise they have no freedom in return. Saying it's a democratic requirement means zip. The eu is itself profoundly undemocratic. What a bollocks. What Eastern Bloc are you talking about when Poland, Lithuania and other countries joined the EU? Your misinformation is simply pathetic. It is not worth paying attention to your statements that are simply pointless. I think you mean what bollocks. Ni article here. Well what I was talking about was the countries from Estonia to Bulgaria...the eastern block. They joined for money nothing else. Well maybe also because they thought they'd get protection from the eu,in reality NATO. What part is bollocks? Do tell. Everything you wrote. Read about the UK economy before joining the EU (EEC). UK did not join for money? Answer yourself before you write another stupidity. " . We were the fifth largest economy in the world when we entered. Were now the errr fifth still  | |||
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"Does the eu let any country run its own affairs? No. Can they make trade deals with countries outside? No. Are they ordered to take migrant quotas. Yes. If they don't are they threatened with witholding of money to keep them afloat? Yes. The eastern block joined because they had failed and wanted to get their snouts in the trough but now realise they have no freedom in return. Saying it's a democratic requirement means zip. The eu is itself profoundly undemocratic. " Each member state has influence upon the changes that the EU decides to pursue - it's democratic, after all. Whilst the UK is a member, it negotiates and votes upon such proposals - the UK staff doing so are our representatives. Obviously prospective new member states are fully aware of their powers in those ways, as well as of their responsibilities. Imagine whether a single country has the same leverage for a trade deal as a group of 28 states and whether the solitary state is going to secure the better deal, rather than the much bigger economic group can? One of the benefits of membership is the wealth of expertise that works on all member states' behalf. We gain financially and have 60 odd deals that we gain from today. Freedom? Our sovereign parliaments have the power and freedom to undertake what the country chooses to do and elected heads of state determine EU changes. We have that freedom and citizens have greater freedom to live in all member states, with your qualifications having transferability amongst them. Upon leaving, peoples qualifications lose much of their value, including financial value - you dispose of that freedom and large investments that people have made. | |||
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" The eastern block joined because they had failed and wanted to get their snouts in the trough but now realise they have no freedom in return. Saying it's a democratic requirement means zip. The eu is itself profoundly undemocratic. What a bollocks. What Eastern Bloc are you talking about when Poland, Lithuania and other countries joined the EU? Your misinformation is simply pathetic. It is not worth paying attention to your statements that are simply pointless. I think you mean what bollocks. Ni article here. Well what I was talking about was the countries from Estonia to Bulgaria...the eastern block. They joined for money nothing else. Well maybe also because they thought they'd get protection from the eu,in reality NATO. What part is bollocks? Do tell." No I think they were right first time....its a pejorative description | |||
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" The eastern block joined because they had failed and wanted to get their snouts in the trough but now realise they have no freedom in return. Saying it's a democratic requirement means zip. The eu is itself profoundly undemocratic. What a bollocks. What Eastern Bloc are you talking about when Poland, Lithuania and other countries joined the EU? Your misinformation is simply pathetic. It is not worth paying attention to your statements that are simply pointless. I think you mean what bollocks. Ni article here. Well what I was talking about was the countries from Estonia to Bulgaria...the eastern block. They joined for money nothing else. Well maybe also because they thought they'd get protection from the eu,in reality NATO. What part is bollocks? Do tell. Everything you wrote. Read about the UK economy before joining the EU (EEC). UK did not join for money? Answer yourself before you write another stupidity. . We were the fifth largest economy in the world when we entered. Were now the errr fifth still "I didn't ask how high the economy was in the ranking. "Economic development in EEC in 1957–1960 proved to be faster than in Great Britain. This prompted Prime Minister Harold Macmillan to apply in 1961 to join the Communities" | |||
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"It is all about not to get the worst deal, why dont brexiters understand that? I do !
That’s why I’d rather leave on world trade terms !"If we're to leave, it's appropriate to leave on terms that are the best for the UK, which would likely be a negotiated deal, with a transitional period, whilst the full details of the permanent deal are thence concluded, with a group of countries who are a major trading partner with the UK. We will continue to depend upon such important aspects of our economy and contributors supporting the national wellbeing. With about 10 years left to prevent the most severe levels of global heating, it's also likely that we'll manage to achieve a more successful contribution from closer, more integrated cooperation and investment. That medium term focus is needed for the longer term, away from our short term Brexit obsession. | |||
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"Scientists are studying this but it may take several years Yes it could take many years lol "Maybe they've just had enough of foreigners thinking they know what's best for them... | |||
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"It is all about not to get the worst deal, why dont brexiters understand that? I do !
That’s why I’d rather leave on world trade terms !
If we're to leave, it's appropriate to leave on terms that are the best for the UK, which would likely be a negotiated deal, with a transitional period, whilst the full details of the permanent deal are thence concluded, with a group of countries who are a major trading partner with the UK. We will continue to depend upon such important aspects of our economy and contributors supporting the national wellbeing.
With about 10 years left to prevent the most severe levels of global heating, it's also likely that we'll manage to achieve a more successful contribution from closer, more integrated cooperation and investment. That medium term focus is needed for the longer term, away from our short term Brexit obsession.
"10 years eh? When can we expect to see an end to skiing in the Alps? | |||
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"I'm just an ordinary man. Not a brexiteer not a remoaner. As a black ordinary man I am more than aware of the dangers of labels. They just separate and differentiate. To me it's either you believe in Brexit or you don't. Don't need labels to establish this fact. My position was this is not going to be a quick fix. Ive been proven right on that one. The truth is more than simple. Were British. And I for one am very proud of that. Whether we leave, stay or dither. This fact will not change. Supporter of Brexit or opposer of Brexit were still British and we will remain British. We the ordinary people, who graft and earn our coin. Should not turn on each other but be ready and prepared to look out for each other. In or out, we as a country are going to be in for a bumpy ride. Neither side can say with any certainty that they are right and the other side is wrong. Even the countries best acedemics and experts cannot agree. All we can say with absolute certainty is, it divides. Only if we let it. " one of the best posts I’ve ever read ! Tho I’d say we are both English lol | |||
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"Scientists are studying this but it may take several years Yes it could take many years lol
Maybe they've just had enough of foreigners thinking they know what's best for them..."The EU is not colonialism, and every country has the right to vote here. Unlike in colonial times.  | |||
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"why do you leavers give this guy any time whatsoever? every other day he just posts some anti leave line and everyone bites can you not see you fall for it every time. "ShagTonight is a fab legend and his posts can be ignored, if that's your choice and your peculiar needs don't get satisfied. | |||
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"why do you leavers give this guy any time whatsoever? every other day he just posts some anti leave line and everyone bites can you not see you fall for it every time. "Ha ha ha ha...honestly, do you not think thats his democratic right? Why are you picking up on it now anyway when you’ve been pumping out pro-leave nonsense for ages? It’s all about the debate isnt it?  | |||
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"why do you leavers give this guy any time whatsoever? every other day he just posts some anti leave line and everyone bites can you not see you fall for it every time.
Ha ha ha ha...honestly, do you not think thats his democratic right? Why are you picking up on it now anyway when you’ve been pumping out pro-leave nonsense for ages? It’s all about the debate isnt it? "Yes that is right. | |||
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"why do you leavers give this guy any time whatsoever? every other day he just posts some anti leave line and everyone bites can you not see you fall for it every time.
Ha ha ha ha...honestly, do you not think thats his democratic right? Why are you picking up on it now anyway when you’ve been pumping out pro-leave nonsense for ages? It’s all about the debate isnt it? "Of course it is | |||
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