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By *asyuk OP   Man
over a year ago

West London

The Daily Mash:

'How Labour’s half-ars*d car-crash of a Brexit policy will fail to work: a timeline

10th July 2019

JEREMY Corbyn yesterday announced Labour’s new cock-up of a Brexit policy that nobody will vote for. But how will it fall apart in practice?

Today-October 2019: Corbyn does nothing, but is available to talk about austerity if you want

October 2019: Corbyn calls for a people’s vote, by which he means a general election, and calls for a vote against Brexit, by which he means a vote for Labour

November 2019: Corbyn elected in coalition on condition he hold a second referendum, which he insists is delayed until he personally has negotiated with the EU. Coalition partners shrug, say ‘Whatever’

December 2019-March 2020: Corbyn holds lengthy talks with EU

April 2020: EU asks Corbyn if he can stop talking about austerity and move on to Brexit now. Reluctantly, he agrees

April-August 2020: Corbyn attempts to explain what a ‘jobs-first Brexit’ is. Requests extension for further two years so he can ‘properly work it out in his own head’. Denied

September 2020: Corbyn returns with new Brexit deal, which is the same Brexit deal with the added clause ‘we will never ever negotiate with Jeremy Corbyn ever again’

October 2020: Corbyn tours UK to promote his Brexit deal, claiming it is the best deal ever and will save the world

November-March 2020: In accordance with policy, Labour campaigns for Remain and Corbyn condemns his Brexit deal as the worst deal ever that will destroy the world

March 2021: Confused, terrifed British public votes for something they barely understand again and gets it wrong again

April 2021: Corbyn blames everyone else'

On a more general note from Newsthump:

'Labour leader maintains long-held, principled position of not supporting Labour Party policy

March 15, 2019

Written by Davywavy

Just because he’s the leader of the Labour Party doesn’t mean he’s going to start supporting its policies, Jeremy Corbyn has confirmed.

Many members seem surprised that Corbyn, who was swept to the leadership position on the back of his years of not backing party policy, did not back party policy last night.

“It’s inexplicable,” said ardent second-referendum and Labour Party member Simon Williams.

”We had a big debate, there was a vote and the party agreed on its policy and then – boom! – Jeremy doesn’t back the policy when the opportunity arose.

”If only there had been some indication in his personal history he might do something like that.”

However, some cynical observers suggested that anyone thinking he might do otherwise was being naive.

“If our party policy, voted on at the conference and agreed by all, was to prevent our members being smacked in the face with a hammer, you can be sure Jeremy’s principles would make him abstain on it,” we were told.

“And what’s more, his supporters would be finding justifications for why ‘now is not the time’ even as they were picking their teeth up.”'

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By *eakcoupleCouple
over a year ago

peak district

When considering any policies that Labour has or might have, you just need to remind yourself of Churchill's accurate summary -

"Socialism is the creed of ignorance, the gospel of envy and the philosophy of failure, its only achievement being equal shares of misery for all."

Good old Winston!

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago

"Good old Winston"? The man who set the guns on hungry striking miners, sent the guns into Ireland, intentionally starved half of Bengal, called the Japanese a sub-species and called for the eradication of every man, woman and child in Japan? Lovely old Winston.

It reminds me of the old adage, there are only two types of Tories. Millionaires and idiots.

I think I'll pass when it comes to advice from Churchill. What would you expect a member of the aristocracy to tell you about socialism, or anything else that challenges the prevailing system of exploitation?

That we have such an all powerful media is a huge worry, that they can convince so many people in the working class that it is in their self interest to vote Tory is beyond credulity. The party of and for capital being voted for by any worker is sheer madness. They must laugh so hard!

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By *mmabluTV/TS
over a year ago

upton wirral


"When considering any policies that Labour has or might have, you just need to remind yourself of Churchill's accurate summary -

"Socialism is the creed of ignorance, the gospel of envy and the philosophy of failure, its only achievement being equal shares of misery for all."

Good old Winston! "
Yes a wise man

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By *asyuk OP   Man
over a year ago

West London

Update from Newsthump:

"Jeremy Corbyn rules out going into coalition with his own party

September 22, 2019

Written by Davywavy

Jeremy Corbyn has strongly rejected suggestions that he might enter a coalition with his own party to win an election.

The Labour leader said that the Labour MPs weren’t the sort of people he’d choose to work with, and insisted that winning his own seat of Islington North should be sufficient to allow him to form a government.

Anyone suggesting an electoral pact with his own MPs was in ‘cloud cuckoo land’, he said, as their history of voting for Labour Party policy meant he couldn’t trust them.

”I think we need to be very clear that if you’re a member of the Labour Party then the Labour Party isn’t the place for you,” he told a gathering of his own representatives.

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”There will be no pact which would allow my own MPs to win seats by me stepping aside.

”Instead I’ll fight every seat on my own, win, and enter Downing Street at the head of a Labour movement composed of a loyal and hardworking party of myself,” he concluded, before sitting down to his own rapturous applause.

However, Labour members have said their door remains open to the idea of working with their own leader, as he’ll need at least some other MPs to beat the six Boris Johnson has left."

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By (user no longer on site)
over a year ago


"Yes a wise man"

Yep, wise man who thought gays should be prisoned or chemically castrated, maybe you wouldn't have been so lucky back then in this "golden era".

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By *asyuk OP   Man
over a year ago

West London


"When considering any policies that Labour has or might have, you just need to remind yourself of Churchill's accurate summary -

"Socialism is the creed of ignorance, the gospel of envy and the philosophy of failure, its only achievement being equal shares of misery for all."

Good old Winston! "

Winston Churchill carried out a vital service during WWII.

He also thought and did some terrible things.

Do you think he was flawless?

What do you think socialism is?

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By *eakcoupleCouple
over a year ago

peak district


"When considering any policies that Labour has or might have, you just need to remind yourself of Churchill's accurate summary -

"Socialism is the creed of ignorance, the gospel of envy and the philosophy of failure, its only achievement being equal shares of misery for all."

Good old Winston!

Winston Churchill carried out a vital service during WWII.

He also thought and did some terrible things.

Do you think he was flawless?

What do you think socialism is?"

You want to read a biography of Winston. He was a champion of the working man when young and despite marxist propaganda, didn't send troops to Tonypandy - or get them to fire on the miners - he sent London policeman. But that particular lie is now enshrined in Labour mythology.

Yes, he had flaws, but was the right man in the right place at the right time. If not for him, we'd all be speaking German.

Socialism, like christianity, is a fabulous idea but neither have ever worked and never will. Human nature cannot be changed, and every socialist society collapses after some dictator or other emerges and makes his people suffer - Stalin, Hitler (never forget he was a national socialist!), Castro, Mugabe, Maduro... etc etc etc. Some people are much more equal than others.

The problem is, socialism, unlike capitalism (with all its faults) does not create wealth. It relies on taxing the rich - that's never enough, so then the Middle Classes are heavily taxed, and as that's not enough, then the Working Classes are hit and impoverished, and then the economy collapses. As someone recently said, very accurately "Socialism always starts out with honourable ideals of equality and freedom, but ends with people having to eat their pets."

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By *asyuk OP   Man
over a year ago

West London


"When considering any policies that Labour has or might have, you just need to remind yourself of Churchill's accurate summary -

"Socialism is the creed of ignorance, the gospel of envy and the philosophy of failure, its only achievement being equal shares of misery for all."

Good old Winston!

Winston Churchill carried out a vital service during WWII.

He also thought and did some terrible things.

Do you think he was flawless?

What do you think socialism is?

You want to read a biography of Winston. He was a champion of the working man when young and despite marxist propaganda, didn't send troops to Tonypandy - or get them to fire on the miners - he sent London policeman. But that particular lie is now enshrined in Labour mythology.

Yes, he had flaws, but was the right man in the right place at the right time. If not for him, we'd all be speaking German.

Socialism, like christianity, is a fabulous idea but neither have ever worked and never will. Human nature cannot be changed, and every socialist society collapses after some dictator or other emerges and makes his people suffer - Stalin, Hitler (never forget he was a national socialist!), Castro, Mugabe, Maduro... etc etc etc. Some people are much more equal than others.

The problem is, socialism, unlike capitalism (with all its faults) does not create wealth. It relies on taxing the rich - that's never enough, so then the Middle Classes are heavily taxed, and as that's not enough, then the Working Classes are hit and impoverished, and then the economy collapses. As someone recently said, very accurately "Socialism always starts out with honourable ideals of equality and freedom, but ends with people having to eat their pets." "

I said Churchill was the right person for that particular event. Too busy "being right" to notice

He was also very wrong in many ways, including his views on race and on sharing unearned wealth.

You don't know what socialism is it would seem.

Communism and totalitarian states are not socialism.

It is socialism which prevents people from starving to death as a result of capitalism.

No socialism, only the healthcare you pay for.

No socialism, only the education you pay for.

No socialism, only the roads that you pay for.

No socialism, only the security on the streets that you pay for.

As if capitalism works any better.

Capitalism creates the recessions. Socialism patches them up until the next one.

Capitalism ends up on exactly the same way as socialism except some people eat dog whilst others eat caviar. Both through luck, not judgement.

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By *ara JTV/TS
over a year ago

Bristol East


"When considering any policies that Labour has or might have, you just need to remind yourself of Churchill's accurate summary -

"Socialism is the creed of ignorance, the gospel of envy and the philosophy of failure, its only achievement being equal shares of misery for all."

Good old Winston! Yes a wise man"

Probably the crappiest peacetime politician whose reputation today consists solely of wartime rhetoric.

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By *an For YouMan
over a year ago

belfast/holywood


"When considering any policies that Labour has or might have, you just need to remind yourself of Churchill's accurate summary -

"Socialism is the creed of ignorance, the gospel of envy and the philosophy of failure, its only achievement being equal shares of misery for all."

Good old Winston! Yes a wise man

Probably the crappiest peacetime politician whose reputation today consists solely of wartime rhetoric."

And the man voted by the British people as the greatest ever Briton.

Rhetoric? Lol. Saving the world from Nazi domination rhetoric?. Gotcha

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