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"Let the Scots go and fall on there arse ...with the crankie woman at the helm ....Will sink in no time ...a Greece waiting to happen ..." Jane and John in Kent, an English fort if ever there was one. Canterbury, nothing more English than Canterbury. The first of the "Chaucer Life Records" appears in 1357, in the household accounts of Elizabeth de Burgh, the Countess of Ulster. Now remind me, French, Irish? | |||
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"Let the Scots go and fall on there arse ...with the crankie woman at the helm ....Will sink in no time ...a Greece waiting to happen ..." No one can survive without the English being at the helm eh? Just look at all those ex colonial countries like Australia and New Zealand and India. Flat on their arses now the mighty English are no longer in charge. | |||
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"Let the Scots go and fall on there arse ...with the crankie woman at the helm ....Will sink in no time ...a Greece waiting to happen ... No one can survive without the English being at the helm eh? Just look at all those ex colonial countries like Australia and New Zealand and India. Flat on their arses now the mighty English are no longer in charge." Oy, don't forget America. Where would America be today if it wasn't for migrants on board British built ships such as the Titanic (or was it the Olympic)? Never, ever forget that it was America which first put man on the moon. (with a tiny ickle bit ov help from Mr. Brown) Oh, Mr Brown huh? And he was of which nationality? Hmm..... Awkward, lets gloss over that. Americans... greatest rocket scientists and all that. | |||
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"I cannot see the UK breaking up,therewill be short term problems but it will pass over.Scotland without us and the EU would be destitute and they would all come south anyway." Faslane is in which country of the UK? Airbus is in which country of the UK? Urenco is in which country of the UK? When I went to school, I was bullied. The big bad bully told me that without his protection, I would be nothing, I would wither away and die. | |||
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"I cannot see the UK breaking up,therewill be short term problems but it will pass over.Scotland without us and the EU would be destitute and they would all come south anyway." The UK is already breaking up and people in Wales, Scotland and N Ireland are hearing the English telling them that they would be nothing without English support. It is the same message that the English put out to every ex colony as it pushed for Independence. the UK and in particular England is in need of the very big wake up call that it will soon get. There are far too many English people with a superiority complex borne from nothing other than being English. Brexit might just finally and once and for all lance the boil of entitlement that is so very damaging to this country. Are you entitled? If you see equality and fairness as being something of a personal threat to you - then yes you feel entitled. | |||
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"I cannot see the UK breaking up,therewill be short term problems but it will pass over.Scotland without us and the EU would be destitute and they would all come south anyway." What utter rubbish scotland will thrive once independent | |||
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"I cannot see the UK breaking up,therewill be short term problems but it will pass over.Scotland without us and the EU would be destitute and they would all come south anyway. The UK is already breaking up and people in Wales, Scotland and N Ireland are hearing the English telling them that they would be nothing without English support. It is the same message that the English put out to every ex colony as it pushed for Independence. the UK and in particular England is in need of the very big wake up call that it will soon get. There are far too many English people with a superiority complex borne from nothing other than being English. Brexit might just finally and once and for all lance the boil of entitlement that is so very damaging to this country. Are you entitled? If you see equality and fairness as being something of a personal threat to you - then yes you feel entitled. " Very well said | |||
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"Let the Scots go and fall on there arse ...with the crankie woman at the helm ....Will sink in no time ...a Greece waiting to happen ..." Roll up roll up..my friends come see the talking arsehole ..after him the bearded lady | |||
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"I cannot see the UK breaking up,therewill be short term problems but it will pass over.Scotland without us and the EU would be destitute and they would all come south anyway. What utter rubbish scotland will thrive once independent" Which currency are you going to use? | |||
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"I cannot see the UK breaking up,therewill be short term problems but it will pass over.Scotland without us and the EU would be destitute and they would all come south anyway. The UK is already breaking up and people in Wales, Scotland and N Ireland are hearing the English telling them that they would be nothing without English support. It is the same message that the English put out to every ex colony as it pushed for Independence. the UK and in particular England is in need of the very big wake up call that it will soon get. There are far too many English people with a superiority complex borne from nothing other than being English. Brexit might just finally and once and for all lance the boil of entitlement that is so very damaging to this country. Are you entitled? If you see equality and fairness as being something of a personal threat to you - then yes you feel entitled. " No ! I think it’s more the English are sick and tired of been painted as the bad guy all the time ! Example , SNP Scottish National Party , are they ever thought of as Racist ? No Example , ENP English National Party ( if it existed ) would it be thought of as Racist ? You bet within seconds of been formed !!! | |||
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"I cannot see the UK breaking up,therewill be short term problems but it will pass over.Scotland without us and the EU would be destitute and they would all come south anyway. The UK is already breaking up and people in Wales, Scotland and N Ireland are hearing the English telling them that they would be nothing without English support. It is the same message that the English put out to every ex colony as it pushed for Independence. the UK and in particular England is in need of the very big wake up call that it will soon get. There are far too many English people with a superiority complex borne from nothing other than being English. Brexit might just finally and once and for all lance the boil of entitlement that is so very damaging to this country. Are you entitled? If you see equality and fairness as being something of a personal threat to you - then yes you feel entitled. No ! I think it’s more the English are sick and tired of been painted as the bad guy all the time ! Example , SNP Scottish National Party , are they ever thought of as Racist ? No Example , ENP English National Party ( if it existed ) would it be thought of as Racist ? You bet within seconds of been formed !!!" As we are the United Kingdom brought about by the military subjugation of Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland (historically speaking) we will always be expected to behave with more care to our subjects than they should to us and if we get called names then we should put our big boy pants on and accept that! | |||
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"I cannot see the UK breaking up,therewill be short term problems but it will pass over.Scotland without us and the EU would be destitute and they would all come south anyway. The UK is already breaking up and people in Wales, Scotland and N Ireland are hearing the English telling them that they would be nothing without English support. It is the same message that the English put out to every ex colony as it pushed for Independence. the UK and in particular England is in need of the very big wake up call that it will soon get. There are far too many English people with a superiority complex borne from nothing other than being English. Brexit might just finally and once and for all lance the boil of entitlement that is so very damaging to this country. Are you entitled? If you see equality and fairness as being something of a personal threat to you - then yes you feel entitled. No ! I think it’s more the English are sick and tired of been painted as the bad guy all the time ! Example , SNP Scottish National Party , are they ever thought of as Racist ? No Example , ENP English National Party ( if it existed ) would it be thought of as Racist ? You bet within seconds of been formed !!! As we are the United Kingdom brought about by the military subjugation of Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland (historically speaking) we will always be expected to behave with more care to our subjects than they should to us and if we get called names then we should put our big boy pants on and accept that!" That comment just says it all and its attitudes like your that will bring an end to the united kingdom,and the sooner the better | |||
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"I cannot see the UK breaking up,therewill be short term problems but it will pass over.Scotland without us and the EU would be destitute and they would all come south anyway. The UK is already breaking up and people in Wales, Scotland and N Ireland are hearing the English telling them that they would be nothing without English support. It is the same message that the English put out to every ex colony as it pushed for Independence. the UK and in particular England is in need of the very big wake up call that it will soon get. There are far too many English people with a superiority complex borne from nothing other than being English. Brexit might just finally and once and for all lance the boil of entitlement that is so very damaging to this country. Are you entitled? If you see equality and fairness as being something of a personal threat to you - then yes you feel entitled. No ! I think it’s more the English are sick and tired of been painted as the bad guy all the time ! Example , SNP Scottish National Party , are they ever thought of as Racist ? No Example , ENP English National Party ( if it existed ) would it be thought of as Racist ? You bet within seconds of been formed !!! As we are the United Kingdom brought about by the military subjugation of Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland (historically speaking) we will always be expected to behave with more care to our subjects than they should to us and if we get called names then we should put our big boy pants on and accept that! That comment just says it all and its attitudes like your that will bring an end to the united kingdom,and the sooner the better " Irony was the method behind my post. I was taking the mick out of the entitled poster not you....and as I am sure you can see taking the mick is a reference to all the years of godawful irish jokes we used to have to endure. I don’t believe the english are anything more than a bastard mongrel nation made up of many branches of humankind but unfortunately a large number if them seem trapped in a victorian empire mindset instead of grasping reality and acknowledging that apart from an ability to launder money by creating a property market that is out of all proportion to the ability of normal working class people to enter they basically are doing nothing to improve peoples lives and blaming foreigners for all our woes. | |||
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"I cannot see the UK breaking up,therewill be short term problems but it will pass over.Scotland without us and the EU would be destitute and they would all come south anyway. The UK is already breaking up and people in Wales, Scotland and N Ireland are hearing the English telling them that they would be nothing without English support. It is the same message that the English put out to every ex colony as it pushed for Independence. the UK and in particular England is in need of the very big wake up call that it will soon get. There are far too many English people with a superiority complex borne from nothing other than being English. Brexit might just finally and once and for all lance the boil of entitlement that is so very damaging to this country. Are you entitled? If you see equality and fairness as being something of a personal threat to you - then yes you feel entitled. No ! I think it’s more the English are sick and tired of been painted as the bad guy all the time ! Example , SNP Scottish National Party , are they ever thought of as Racist ? No Example , ENP English National Party ( if it existed ) would it be thought of as Racist ? You bet within seconds of been formed !!! As we are the United Kingdom brought about by the military subjugation of Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland (historically speaking) we will always be expected to behave with more care to our subjects than they should to us and if we get called names then we should put our big boy pants on and accept that! That comment just says it all and its attitudes like your that will bring an end to the united kingdom,and the sooner the better Irony was the method behind my post. I was taking the mick out of the entitled poster not you....and as I am sure you can see taking the mick is a reference to all the years of godawful irish jokes we used to have to endure. I don’t believe the english are anything more than a bastard mongrel nation made up of many branches of humankind but unfortunately a large number if them seem trapped in a victorian empire mindset instead of grasping reality and acknowledging that apart from an ability to launder money by creating a property market that is out of all proportion to the ability of normal working class people to enter they basically are doing nothing to improve peoples lives and blaming foreigners for all our woes. " Sorru my apologies | |||
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" No ! I think it’s more the English are sick and tired of been painted as the bad guy all the time ! Example , SNP Scottish National Party , are they ever thought of as Racist ? No Example , ENP English National Party ( if it existed ) would it be thought of as Racist ? You bet within seconds of been formed !!!" That's because the overwhelming majority of Nationalist parties ARE far right racist clusterfucks. The SNP is well recognised as being that almost unique beast of a centre left social democratic Nationalist Party | |||
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"I cannot see the UK breaking up,therewill be short term problems but it will pass over.Scotland without us and the EU would be destitute and they would all come south anyway." Every time a part of the Empire started to resist London rule, the British said the same thing - you are too weak, you are too feeble to live without us. And you know what, every single time you were proved wrong. But hey, if it makes you feel superior, carry on. | |||
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" No ! I think it’s more the English are sick and tired of been painted as the bad guy all the time ! Example , SNP Scottish National Party , are they ever thought of as Racist ? No Example , ENP English National Party ( if it existed ) would it be thought of as Racist ? You bet within seconds of been formed !!! That's because the overwhelming majority of Nationalist parties ARE far right racist clusterfucks. The SNP is well recognised as being that almost unique beast of a centre left social democratic Nationalist Party" How do you know an ENP wouldn’t be ? Especially if they aligned with the SNP to both get what they wanted ? Independence ! | |||
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"If the UK leaves with a no deal will the UK break up within a few years?" It might take a few years but it's more likely than not. Being part of the UK is no longer of any advantage to Scotland; post-Brexit, that will become clearer with each passing day. Why stay to be patronized? To be reminded what a burden you are? To house nuclear weapons you have no need of? Yes, Independence will have its challenges and disadvantages; but if a country with the population and economy of New Zealand can manage - on the other side of the planet - Scotland should be ok. There are two main advantages to leaving the UK. Firstly, Scotland would be an actual democracy, like Germany. Secondly, it would be able to act in its own interests. In any case, who would really want an independent Scotland fail? Who would it make happy? Surely our English friends, the DUP and the Orange Order would wish us well? Wouldn't they? | |||
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"If the UK leaves with a no deal will the UK break up within a few years? It might take a few years but it's more likely than not. Being part of the UK is no longer of any advantage to Scotland; post-Brexit, that will become clearer with each passing day. Why stay to be patronized? To be reminded what a burden you are? To house nuclear weapons you have no need of? Yes, Independence will have its challenges and disadvantages; but if a country with the population and economy of New Zealand can manage - on the other side of the planet - Scotland should be ok. There are two main advantages to leaving the UK. Firstly, Scotland would be an actual democracy, like Germany. Secondly, it would be able to act in its own interests. In any case, who would really want an independent Scotland fail? Who would it make happy? Surely our English friends, the DUP and the Orange Order would wish us well? Wouldn't they?" I think all Countries can flourish by being independent but it's how they become independent. People often sight independant countries arguing if they can do it why can't the UK. The major difference is the country used as the example has probably been independent for the last 100 years or more. All that time has been spent modelling their economy on their circumstances. The UK on the other hand has been slowly entwining and developing it's economy and political ties on being a close member of a political entity and many people cannot understand the difference how our situation is a million miles away from say New Zealand and how just flippantly saying if they can easily do it then so can we is so wrong. Yes we can do it but people are not taking into account the financial harm that this would probably cause and simply brush it away as Project Fear. | |||
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"I cannot see the UK breaking up,therewill be short term problems but it will pass over.Scotland without us and the EU would be destitute and they would all come south anyway. The UK is already breaking up and people in Wales, Scotland and N Ireland are hearing the English telling them that they would be nothing without English support. It is the same message that the English put out to every ex colony as it pushed for Independence. the UK and in particular England is in need of the very big wake up call that it will soon get. There are far too many English people with a superiority complex borne from nothing other than being English. Brexit might just finally and once and for all lance the boil of entitlement that is so very damaging to this country. Are you entitled? If you see equality and fairness as being something of a personal threat to you - then yes you feel entitled. " France has approximately the same amount of people as the UK, but France has much more land. Germany has almost 1 extra population for every 3 people more than the UK. The USA has about 5 people for each UK person. But quite a lot more land. No wonder Donald wants London to be the capital of America. | |||
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"Let the Scots go and fall on there arse ...with the crankie woman at the helm ....Will sink in no time ...a Greece waiting to happen ..." Aye like you know anything other than what you read in the daily mail or see in the bias BBC | |||
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"I cannot see the UK breaking up,therewill be short term problems but it will pass over.Scotland without us and the EU would be destitute and they would all come south anyway. What utter rubbish scotland will thrive once independent Which currency are you going to use?" Any damn currency we like in 2014 they said you can't use the pound now they say you can't have your own currency oh you'll have to use the euro aye well the pounds not looking too good right now pmsl | |||
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"I cannot see the UK breaking up,therewill be short term problems but it will pass over.Scotland without us and the EU would be destitute and they would all come south anyway. What utter rubbish scotland will thrive once independent Which currency are you going to use? Any damn currency we like in 2014 they said you can't use the pound now they say you can't have your own currency oh you'll have to use the euro aye well the pounds not looking too good right now pmsl " In 2014 I think keeping the pound was an important factor for some when deciding whether to separate. Despite its current performance I think it would still be a strong deciding factor for many if there is indyref2 | |||
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"If the UK leaves with a no deal will the UK break up within a few years? It might take a few years but it's more likely than not. Being part of the UK is no longer of any advantage to Scotland; post-Brexit, that will become clearer with each passing day. Why stay to be patronized? To be reminded what a burden you are? To house nuclear weapons you have no need of? Yes, Independence will have its challenges and disadvantages; but if a country with the population and economy of New Zealand can manage - on the other side of the planet - Scotland should be ok. There are two main advantages to leaving the UK. Firstly, Scotland would be an actual democracy, like Germany. Secondly, it would be able to act in its own interests. In any case, who would really want an independent Scotland fail? Who would it make happy? Surely our English friends, the DUP and the Orange Order would wish us well? Wouldn't they?" Yes the English would ! | |||
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"No, the UK will not break up, it will shrink. I believe, that the current Tory CEO of 'Brexit UK PLC' has already decided that 'NI UK' (the loss making wholly owned subsidiary of Brexit UK PLC) needs to be 'sold off' and 'Scotland Inc' is superfluous to its core business and allow a 'management buyout'. Its just a question of getting the work forces of those 2 problem areas on board and then convincing the shareholders that its really what they want. " Shrink? If NI joins Eire, and Scotland and Wales go independent thats a break up not shrinkage | |||
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"Recent yougov poll puts support for Welsh Independence at 33%, 41% if you remove the "don't knows". The highest it's ever been. If the poll a true indicator then happy days might be ahead." Voters aged between 18 and 24 are the most enthusiastic about Wales becoming independent to stay in the EU, with 42% in favour and 35% against. | |||
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"Oh that’s going to be a bit of a bugger on the Severn bridge - they got rid of all the toll booths but they will need them again for passport control!" The toll booths were a matter for Westminster. Going independent doesnt mean introduction of border controls | |||
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"They could do with coming up with a alternative currency and hod they'd implement it in Scotland before having another independence referendum as not to end up like voting for Brexit yet having no idea how the impliment it. " Yes, the currency question was a weak spot in 2014. I believe a commission recently looked at the options. May be something to announce at the SNP conference. I suspect it will still be a stick for the No campaign to wield, however. | |||
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"Russia has broken up and now has many independent countries....so maybe it could be a good thing ....lets see how well the scots could do without our money ....over to you people of scotland and the acid lady" What age are you ? Going by your posts you must be nearly out of nursery school | |||
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"Recent yougov poll puts support for Welsh Independence at 33%, 41% if you remove the "don't knows". The highest it's ever been. If the poll a true indicator then happy days might be ahead. Voters aged between 18 and 24 are the most enthusiastic about Wales becoming independent to stay in the EU, with 42% in favour and 35% against." The young again. Want their freedom and denied it. Sounds familiar. | |||
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"Let the Scots go and fall on there arse ...with the crankie woman at the helm ....Will sink in no time ...a Greece waiting to happen ..." Sadly you have no idea how much you’ve been lied to about ‘England’ supporting Scotland, so really, you have nothing of substance to support your opinion. | |||
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"Russia has broken up and now has many independent countries....so maybe it could be a good thing ....lets see how well the scots could do without our money ....over to you people of scotland and the acid lady What age are you ? Going by your posts you must be nearly out of nursery school " That much education? You’re being flattering. | |||
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"If it did break up post brexit, and Scotland was lucky enough to get back into the EU. Do you think there'd be an exodus north of remainers and EU immigrants?" Possibly. | |||
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"I don’t understand the “fear” (if that is the right word) for Scotland to adopt the Euro if it gains independence. The Euro is an internationally recognised currency that is widely traded on the international markets and is secure." Doesn't have the queen's face on it. Seems to be the main thrust of the fear of the Euro. So long as I can swap them for beer, food, goods and services, I don't care if it's got a picture of a camels arse on there. | |||
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"I don’t understand the “fear” (if that is the right word) for Scotland to adopt the Euro if it gains independence. The Euro is an internationally recognised currency that is widely traded on the international markets and is secure." I agree. But some people don't like change. The nationalists have gone down the incremental route to narrow the gap, so that independence is perceived to be a small next step, not a huge leap. Changing your currency at the same time as leaving the Union reminds people it is a big step. The No campaign knew that and repeatedly said in 2014 they would refuse to share the £. That said, you don't need anyone's permission to use any currency as your own. It just means you have no monetary policy. | |||
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