FabSwingers.com forum: Two Labour Parties

By *ercury OP Man
over a year ago

Grantham

Tom Watson, deputy leader of the Labour Party, is giving a speech today, where he'll contradict the stance of Jeremy Corbyn on Brexit.

JC favours a GE, followed by a possible referendum on Brexit.

TW will call for a referendum first, before any GE, despite a referendum needing six months to organise.

It seems that there are two factions in the Labour Party. Which one should we believe though?

By *oo hotCouple
over a year ago

North West

Brexit needs dealing with in some way before any general election. We have seen that Johnson (and May before him) was unable to get Brexit consensus in the Conservative Party and similarly Corbyn has been unable to get Brexit consensus in the Labour Party.

If neither can get consensus in their own Party’s they are not going to get consensus in the House and are not going to be able to conclude successful negotiations with the EU.

It seems beyond obvious to me that the entire problem with politics is Brexit and it is a problem because both Labour and Conservative voters voted for Brexit. Brexit needs to be taken out of politics altogether and placed in the Guardianship of an authorised cross-Party department with the authority to command the PM to act under their instruction. If that is not possible, then a Brexit delay up to to the next EU Parliamentary session should be sought and Brexit passed to a Royal Commission.

Politics cannot continue with Brexit stealing the daylight and oxygen from other far more important issues. I get it that the easiest solution (a 2nd referendum on the deal) is poison to most Brexiters so something else has to happen but it has to be taken out of the party political system.

By *ara JTV/TS
over a year ago

Bristol East

My understanding of Labour's position is:

- A Labour Government to negotiate a soft Brexit (customs union) with the EU and put this proposal to the public in a referendum - soft Brexit or Remain.

That pre-supposes Labour has the keys to No. 10.

If it doesn't, then the policy is a referendum on whatever choice is on the table.

Either way, the public gets to see what Brexit means in practice and can make an informed choice.